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Speaker 2: Following the Cowboys making a couple moves at the trade deadline,
Speaker 2: including acquiring quite possibly the best defensive tackle in all
Speaker 2: of the National Football League. Quinn Williams is now a
Speaker 2: Cowboy and we're gonna react to it here. Plus we're
Speaker 2: gonna take your calls because it's on the wire Wednesday too.
Speaker 2: Eight eight, five, five, two two nine seven will take
Speaker 2: those calls starting in the second segment. But we've got
Speaker 2: a break down what the heck just happened in Cowboys
Speaker 2: Nation with Patrick Josh, Isaiah Chris Beam in the back.
Speaker 2: I'm Kyle Yeomans. You got your wish, Isaiah Stamba, I
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 5: You got your will.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Nothing like a little black rifle to start the day after.
Speaker 6: Can you tell we've had it already? Azing trade? Get
Speaker 6: you something? I like those trades.
Speaker 7: That.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just gonna let you take it, sir.
Speaker 2: Well, No, this is your moment, this is your moment.
Speaker 2: You fought for this hook and I'm happy with it too.
Speaker 2: Let me get that very clear. I did want an address. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: both of you don't chose both of you don't you
Speaker 2: do this.
Speaker 8: I'm not hearing it, Isaiah. I'm going to stare longingly
Speaker 8: as you describe for you what Quinn Williams is going
Speaker 8: bring to this even I'm here for you.
Speaker 5: Listen, y'all.
Speaker 3: First of all, shout out to all of our Talking
Speaker 3: Cowboys fan Milie who reached out to me via DM
Speaker 3: and you know, on on X and everywhere else. I
Speaker 3: appreciate y'all keeping the receipts, you know the people listen. Yeah,
Speaker 3: a lot of people hit me up and said, you
Speaker 3: got your wish. You called this out. You've been beating
Speaker 3: the table for this all that stuff, and it's very true,
Speaker 3: and I appreciate y'all. I recognize y'all. This is exactly
Speaker 3: the move that I was hoping for. It was one
Speaker 3: of maybe three players that I was hoping that Dallas
Speaker 3: would go for. Obviously, on this platform, we can't say
Speaker 3: their names when they're associated with another team this year.
Speaker 3: We don't want those problems so we could lose draft pick.
Speaker 3: We love being here on Talking Cowboys and we love
Speaker 3: our organization here. But there was a handful of players
Speaker 3: in this individual in Quinn Williams, it was one of
Speaker 3: those individuals. That was in my mind that I would
Speaker 3: have loved for them to go and attain. I did not, however,
Speaker 3: believe that he was tangible because I didn't think that
Speaker 3: Dallas would give up the capitol to acquire him, and
Speaker 3: yet they did. What does that mean now, Well, it
Speaker 3: means that you have one of the most respected the
Speaker 3: interior defensive lineman that you acquired via Micaeh Parsons trade
Speaker 3: from Green Bay and Kenny Clark respected. You see his
Speaker 3: say it's dominant, but you see his impact weekend and
Speaker 3: week out right, he impacts the game. However, that's one guy.
Speaker 3: Everybody's going to say, well, what about osa Adigi Zoo.
Speaker 3: Ohso you just gave also a bunch of money. Olsa
Speaker 3: is still an impact player? Is he a dominant interior
Speaker 3: defensilignment He's not.
Speaker 6: He's not.
Speaker 3: He's an impactful defensive lineman, but he's not a dominant
Speaker 3: interior defensi lineman. So when you have a well respected
Speaker 3: guy who holds his own in Kenney Clark, and you
Speaker 3: have osa a Diggi Zoo that you paid, and you
Speaker 3: have a Solomon Thomas that is putting out effort out
Speaker 3: of this world, and then you're coming off a game
Speaker 3: in which you ran a five to one front right
Speaker 3: where you were able to finally look at your current
Speaker 3: defensive ends that I know some of us was beating
Speaker 3: the table for and they had success when they had
Speaker 3: one on one opportunities. That was in the form of
Speaker 3: Clowney and Ezaku. Those two had one one. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 3: those guys had one on one opportunities, and you saw
Speaker 3: what they're capable of.
Speaker 6: So the confidence that they had.
Speaker 3: Within their roster to let Micah walk, you saw as
Speaker 3: to why they felt that way a little bit in
Speaker 3: this last game, like, Okay, these guys can get to
Speaker 3: the QB and some of them still are are getting baked.
Speaker 3: Some of them are still in the process of cooking.
Speaker 3: But there's there's there's there's an opportunity there. So how
Speaker 3: can we accelerate their opportunities and their growth. How about
Speaker 3: we add one of the most dominant interior defense alignment
Speaker 3: in the game. And I don't even think that he's
Speaker 3: he hasn't even hit his prime. Don't even hit his prime.
Speaker 3: So Quinn Williams is somebody who requires two. Try him
Speaker 3: with one. He requires too, But if you want to
Speaker 3: try him with one go ahead, right, will invite you
Speaker 3: to do that.
Speaker 6: We also invite you to try Kenny Clark with one.
Speaker 3: So when you put a one technique and you put
Speaker 3: a three technique, those guys are now in the gaps
Speaker 3: between each shoulder of your center. This is what I've
Speaker 3: been saying for some weeks. Now your center snaps the
Speaker 3: ball here that has to choose. I'm gonna help my
Speaker 3: right guard or I'm gonna help my left guard.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: Either way, one of these guys has to get double teamed.
Speaker 3: But I can't double them both. You cannot.
Speaker 6: So two guys an interior, Clark and Williams.
Speaker 3: I need to double team both of them, but I
Speaker 3: can't double team both of them. So one of them
Speaker 3: always has a chance to win. And if those three
Speaker 3: offensive linemen guard, center, guard are taking responsibility for my
Speaker 3: interior two say I'm not great at math, I got
Speaker 3: my masters. But one on one with your dns. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And also not only do your dns get the benefits
Speaker 3: of having two dominant interior defensive linemen. So they have
Speaker 3: their one on one matches which they are literally doing
Speaker 3: backflips but naked with huggies on.
Speaker 6: Okay, these guys are these guys are excited.
Speaker 3: About those one on one matchups now, both in the
Speaker 3: run game and the past game. But now your linebackers,
Speaker 3: who you have been questioning their ability to choose the
Speaker 3: right hole their vision, they're being in the right spot
Speaker 3: on run plays, run fits, all that stuff.
Speaker 6: Now those guys who are very capable of.
Speaker 3: Running and hitting, every single one of them, Shamar James,
Speaker 3: Kenneth Murray, Maris lea foul demo's coming back. You have
Speaker 3: all these guys that are really good at running and hitting.
Speaker 3: If you take away they're a freaking roadblock that's in
Speaker 3: front of them, and now they can.
Speaker 6: Just see ball and go hit ball.
Speaker 3: Oh there's no lineman now left to go block them.
Speaker 3: So not only do your dns get better, but now
Speaker 3: your linebackers just what got better? So your run fits
Speaker 3: got better, So your overall rush defense got better. Not
Speaker 3: one position, but one position made a huge impact on
Speaker 3: an entire front seven. And if your front seven is
Speaker 3: better against the run, really good against the run now
Speaker 3: and they can get after the quarterback because they have
Speaker 3: one on one matchups, both interior pressure and exterior pressure.
Speaker 3: Because as a quarterback, if I can't step up, I'm
Speaker 3: in a world of trouble. So now you have two
Speaker 3: interior pressure guys. Your secondary automatically gets better automatically because
Speaker 3: there's less time for the quarterback to sit back and
Speaker 3: a lot of these receivers to get down the field. So, yes,
Speaker 3: there are other areas that you want to address, but
Speaker 3: this one move impacts everything on your defense.
Speaker 5: I've been waiting all night in morning for you to cook.
Speaker 6: Thank you, sir, Josh you're next.
Speaker 2: You also bang the table for this one.
Speaker 8: I mean, Logan Wilson, we talked about it. He is
Speaker 8: a position upgrade. You know you upgraded that position.
Speaker 5: True, Mike linebacker.
Speaker 2: I watched a little bit of tape on him yesterday too.
Speaker 2: I think he can cover better than what people are
Speaker 2: giving him credit. I think I don't think he's I
Speaker 2: don't think he's completely a cover linebacker. Let's not get
Speaker 2: that question if we're talking about doing something that your
Speaker 2: linebackers don't have already.
Speaker 9: True, Mike, he can cover better than that. He was
Speaker 9: bumping out shot He then say he was bumping out
Speaker 9: all right?
Speaker 8: Yeah, and let's just be clear. A position upgrade there, Yes,
Speaker 8: Quentin Williams makes your team better. Simply put, Yes, we're
Speaker 8: talking about it. We were talking about if you're able
Speaker 8: to stop the run, that is, you are able then
Speaker 8: to upgrade every position after that, the second level, the third,
Speaker 8: all of those things you can dictate get better. You
Speaker 8: can dictate what goes on. And like we just talked
Speaker 8: about this last game, five man front and you're seeing
Speaker 8: your defensive ends on one on ones, right, and you
Speaker 8: saw sacks. You saw improvement, five of them, five sacks,
Speaker 8: five of them things.
Speaker 5: Dude, great the way you looked at you, and I would.
Speaker 8: Urge you to look at the trade sort of outside
Speaker 8: looking in. If you frame it in. You traded Micah
Speaker 8: Parsons and a second round pick for this year or
Speaker 8: for this coming in for Kenny Clark, Quentin Williams and
Speaker 8: a first round pick.
Speaker 2: You basically took the strength of your team being your.
Speaker 5: Edge rushers, and you moved inside and.
Speaker 2: Correct one edge rusher, and you made it an unstoppable
Speaker 2: force on the inside, or I guess better word is
Speaker 2: an immovable object on the inside. That's what you've made
Speaker 2: your interior. We've talked about QB vision every week on
Speaker 2: this show, every week, and we talk about, man, this
Speaker 2: guy is really good on the interior. We talk about
Speaker 2: Jayleen Carter with the Philadelphia Eagles, right, talk about uh,
Speaker 2: Leonard Williams in the times that we've played him a
Speaker 2: boyfriend Denver big boy, Yeah, Jones, Chris Jones. Yeah. And
Speaker 2: then you've got Chris Jones with Kansas City, and then
Speaker 2: you've got Denver. You've got some of these massive fronts.
Speaker 2: Now teams are going to look at Dallas and be like,
Speaker 2: oh wow, they've got that guy Quinnin Williams, who's quite
Speaker 2: possibly the best nose tackle in football. Then you turn around,
Speaker 2: you've got Kenny Clark, who's a three time Pro Bowler
Speaker 2: and playing out of his mind at different times.
Speaker 8: The depth there who's behind them?
Speaker 2: So Digizua who just got like a massive contract that
Speaker 2: is going to be fresh and he'll be the He'll
Speaker 2: Solomon Solomon Thomas. Yeah, there's depth there in that position.
Speaker 8: But they got Smith, so no, that's gonna be what
Speaker 8: he was traded.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, Mazzi.
Speaker 5: He has Gang Green though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's up in New York. The The the biggest
Speaker 2: thing though that I like about this whole scenario, other
Speaker 2: than just making the interior of your defensive line such
Speaker 2: a high point, is they are both under contract Kenny
Speaker 2: Clark and Quinn and Williams until twenty twenty eight. Because man,
Speaker 2: my whole thing with this trade deadline, and you guys
Speaker 2: are very aware of where I've been. I was no trade,
Speaker 2: then I was trade, and like the last week and
Speaker 2: a half, I'm like, man, if there our offenses is human,
Speaker 2: then maybe we shouldn't be trade again. But I was
Speaker 2: okay with whatever ended up happening. Now that you look
Speaker 2: at it, you haven't wagered your future. If anything, you're
Speaker 2: building to win, you need to build two, which is
Speaker 2: twenty six, twenty seven and twenty twenty five. You're immediately better,
Speaker 2: So you take a step forward. Now, are you a
Speaker 2: contender right now? Probably not. We'll get into that too.
Speaker 2: You're still three five and one going into the bye
Speaker 2: week in one of the toughest schedules in football. But
Speaker 2: my god, in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven,
Speaker 2: you have set yourself up for success, to be an
Speaker 2: elite team as long as you hit on a couple
Speaker 2: of those draft picks.
Speaker 6: That you have held on to.
Speaker 5: As I was always team trade. I never came off that.
Speaker 9: And not only was I always team trade, I said,
Speaker 9: come up off of one of those first round picks
Speaker 9: to do.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 6: I was afraid I was to get a dominant place.
Speaker 2: I'm okay with Quinn.
Speaker 9: Williams a monster those first rounder I will say this,
Speaker 9: it was It was funny because I had the thought
Speaker 9: on the way on the drive end to day and
Speaker 9: I was like, you know what that conversation d T
Speaker 9: versus d E, d T versus DT. We've all seen
Speaker 9: loony tombes. This felt like Daffy Duck and bugs Bunny
Speaker 9: by the tree. Duck seasons, duck season, it's rabid season.
Speaker 8: It's swapping season.
Speaker 5: That was good.
Speaker 9: The beauty of it is, although that side of the
Speaker 9: table got exactly what they wanted, we kind of got
Speaker 9: some spillover from that because not only can Quinn Williams
Speaker 9: stop the run, but you know what, he's.
Speaker 2: Also down can pass rush, passed rush.
Speaker 9: So it's like it's like the football gods looked at
Speaker 9: talking cowboys and said, you know what, let's just give
Speaker 9: him somebody that everybody.
Speaker 6: So it's a win win. The thing is when you.
Speaker 3: Have that presence on the interior, and I would I
Speaker 3: would urge everybody to go back and look and listen
Speaker 3: I don't know if you have your paper up at all,
Speaker 3: but you.
Speaker 5: Ready put it up please, yes, thank you very much.
Speaker 6: Yeah, super Bowl. We can even replace that with playoffs.
Speaker 3: But when you have a dominant interior, it is a
Speaker 3: quarterback's worst nightmare. A dominant defensive end is not a
Speaker 3: worst not the worst nightmare for a quarter.
Speaker 2: No, you can schem around the whole conversation with Micah,
Speaker 2: I can scheme a d N and send help.
Speaker 3: I also can step up right and they can run
Speaker 3: him around the Hulu hou right. So d ns, yes
Speaker 3: they're dangerous, and yes they're impactful, and they have a
Speaker 3: tremendous impact on the game. But I can I can
Speaker 3: avoid a d N. I can't avoid an interior d
Speaker 3: lineman or two. It sucks. I can't step up. I
Speaker 3: can't even my center is the center of my offensive line.
Speaker 3: I can't get anything going. If he doesn't do his job,
Speaker 3: I can't go I can't get reach blocks, I can't
Speaker 3: go downhill, I can't get to my zone schemes. If
Speaker 3: my center can't get going, the play is blown up.
Speaker 3: That doesn't matter if it's a run play or a
Speaker 3: pass play. Now, if I have one good defensive lineman. Okay,
Speaker 3: we can scheme it up a little bit because my
Speaker 3: guard can come and help and we can try to
Speaker 3: combo and wash things out.
Speaker 6: Right, But two nah, two, two nah, and think about it.
Speaker 6: Look at the look at the remaining schedule.
Speaker 3: I know people are going to look at the schedule, right, said, Oh, well,
Speaker 3: the Cowboys out of it.
Speaker 6: What do those teams do?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 5: Run the ballton, But see what makes it even?
Speaker 2: Starting in the first game after the bye week, their
Speaker 2: number one weapon on offense is a rookie running back
Speaker 2: by the name.
Speaker 6: We call them number one.
Speaker 2: Okay, number two back right, you're right, number number two
Speaker 2: on offense?
Speaker 6: Who's number two?
Speaker 5: You're right? I forgot about hours, which you don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, but Ashton Genty is coming to town or
Speaker 2: you know, we were playing in his town, I guess now,
Speaker 2: but playing against his hometown team where he wanted to
Speaker 2: get drafted, never got the chance to. And then now
Speaker 2: he's got a chance to do what Rico Daudell did,
Speaker 2: but in a different way.
Speaker 5: But it's also I can't stress this enough.
Speaker 9: As much as Kenny Clark and Quinn Williams provide you
Speaker 9: that wall, that unmovable.
Speaker 5: Object, they can push the pocket.
Speaker 9: Yes, when they just look, they can collapse it from
Speaker 9: the interior and force the quarterbacks to either be be
Speaker 9: dumb enough to number one, if you're if you're operating
Speaker 9: from under center as a quarterback and you're trying to
Speaker 9: get into a five step drop, you're not making it
Speaker 9: to five. You're not making it to five. That ball
Speaker 9: has to come out or you're sacked from the interior.
Speaker 9: Now you have to rush to the outside. And that's
Speaker 9: what's gonna take one on one coverages, at one on
Speaker 9: one matchups.
Speaker 2: That's gonna take that time clock down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, from coverage.
Speaker 3: Even even in the cover standpoint, right, what what have
Speaker 3: we been seeing from the zone defense?
Speaker 10: Right?
Speaker 6: People have had issues.
Speaker 3: I've had issues with Iberflus's defense in regards to the
Speaker 3: corners playing so far off and then bailing and then
Speaker 3: bailing right. So now right, people are like, well, what
Speaker 3: is this going to do? Your tacondary still sucks. That's
Speaker 3: what everybody's saying. Okay, when I have this defensive line
Speaker 3: now right, especially with the interior presence, I now can
Speaker 3: walk my corners up.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 3: So I'm still playing my zone right, I'm still I'm
Speaker 3: pretty sure he's still going to run zone right until
Speaker 3: the trademon comes back. But I can now walk my
Speaker 3: corners up, so I can still run those zones. But
Speaker 3: now I could take a second off. I can make
Speaker 3: you spend a second at the line of scrimmage trying
Speaker 3: to get off the ball as a receiver, and now
Speaker 3: you're running into what a zone versus me playing off
Speaker 3: right and trying to play downhill.
Speaker 6: I can now.
Speaker 3: Disrupt what you do at the line of scrimmage. I
Speaker 3: could disrupt your release. And while I'm disrupting you and
Speaker 3: you're trying to get into your route, your quarterback has
Speaker 3: to deal with pressure up the middle and outside because
Speaker 3: Jadavian Clowney is now reloaded.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and for the people I know there are a
Speaker 9: lot of fans on Twitter.
Speaker 5: Not a lot, but there are several fans on Twitter.
Speaker 9: I saw in my replies that were asking, you know,
Speaker 9: no seed, does this mean Cowboys can move to a
Speaker 9: three four? I think your numbers are going in the
Speaker 9: wrong direction. You're talking about a five to one, five
Speaker 9: to two. Okay, you talked about it just last game.
Speaker 9: The Cowboys showed five man four. They showed five man
Speaker 9: front twenty four times last game. They've only showed it
Speaker 9: thirty one times the entire season, and twenty four of
Speaker 9: those times came last last game before you added Quentin Williams.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so no, they're not moving from.
Speaker 9: A four to three to a three four, keeping my
Speaker 9: nickelas always base anyway, yep, but just for the fun math,
Speaker 9: you're moving to a five, not a three, So just
Speaker 9: keep that in mind.
Speaker 3: You could for run stopping purposes, you could do that.
Speaker 3: But now if I am eber Flus, I am fully
Speaker 3: confident with four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you don't have to run five. Did say yesterday?
Speaker 2: He said he anticipates five man fronts, they're gonna run
Speaker 2: more of it.
Speaker 5: That makes me.
Speaker 2: Showed it and then made it happen, And it's one
Speaker 2: on ones across the board too.
Speaker 8: And now you have the personnel to prove it really truly.
Speaker 8: In four men front, you really have the personnel that
Speaker 8: you rely on and feel comfortable with that if it
Speaker 8: goes to five. That's the only thing I don't like
Speaker 8: about stuff.
Speaker 3: The only thing I don't like about five man fronts
Speaker 3: is there's a lot of space in the middle of
Speaker 3: the field. Yeah, a lot, which is why I highly
Speaker 3: discourage five man front unless it's a running situation.
Speaker 6: Four men work for me, now, right, four guys up front?
Speaker 3: Now with those two jokers, then you put freaking Osa
Speaker 3: Diggiezua to be between a guard and a tackle, and
Speaker 3: then you put one of your pass rushers right, one
Speaker 3: of your dedicated pass rushers. That to me works because
Speaker 3: now I can be in a dime package. Now I
Speaker 3: could be in a nig I'd be whatever to hang.
Speaker 3: I want to secondary wise, because I know my front
Speaker 3: four can get the job done. I don't think people
Speaker 3: understand if I can get home with four, what that
Speaker 3: frees me up to do coverage wise?
Speaker 9: Wait, let me say this real quick, because I know
Speaker 9: we got to go to the second Yes, on top
Speaker 9: of everything we're saying. Everything you say, it helps the
Speaker 9: linebackers because of course, tremendously who's coming back after the buck?
Speaker 8: I think it's number zero, Agent zero to Marvey on Overshown.
Speaker 9: So you mean to tell me Overshown gets added to
Speaker 9: a linebacker's core that now has Quinn Williams and Kenny
Speaker 9: Clark up front.
Speaker 8: But it's not like we're adding any other cornerbacks in
Speaker 8: the situation.
Speaker 9: Oh rookie third round picks vone revel he's going to
Speaker 9: make his debut.
Speaker 8: We've never seen him play though, what about that?
Speaker 9: Well, you know, the good thing about it is when
Speaker 9: you have a front like this, you got a little
Speaker 9: more He got a little bit more grace, a little
Speaker 9: bit more wiggle rule.
Speaker 2: I liked the reaction yesterday from Logan Wilson. We got
Speaker 2: to talk to him from the media side of things,
Speaker 2: and when he was asked about yeah, like when he
Speaker 2: got the news for Quinn Williams, he just kind of went, yeah,
Speaker 2: he was liked he was on the plane. He was
Speaker 2: on the plane. He was one of those guys that
Speaker 2: I saw the joking memes out there where he was
Speaker 2: like he went to bed three and six and he
Speaker 2: woke up three five and wah and he's like, wait,
Speaker 2: but I have a quinnin Williams, Now, like I can
Speaker 2: make this happen. So really, I know the linebackers are
Speaker 2: excited about it. You know, Kenny Clark's excited about it.
Speaker 2: Oh so excited about everybody.
Speaker 5: Everybody day I'm bleeping pump two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta go a break, but everybody is excited
Speaker 2: about it. Congratulations, I congratulations, Josh, you guys got it. Done.
Speaker 2: You convince the front office. I'm convinced of it.
Speaker 3: They listen to talking cowboys. Yeah, I think that's the
Speaker 3: I'm convinced now. They definitely listen, and I mean there's
Speaker 3: no question about it.
Speaker 5: It's okay what happorn? All right? Wait?
Speaker 8: That means they heard me say.
Speaker 2: Eight five five to nine seven eight nine seven. I
Speaker 2: am going to ask in the third segment was it
Speaker 2: an overpaid to get Quinn Williams? And we'll talk about
Speaker 2: that conversation because there are multiple people that are saying
Speaker 2: that online. We'll give you our answers later, but we
Speaker 2: want to hear from the fans first because it's a
Speaker 2: on the wire Wednesday more Talking cowboys right after this.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk to Brian in Denver. Brian, what's going on?
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 7: Yeah, what's up, guys.
Speaker 11: I don't know how I'm gonna follow Kyle A.
Speaker 2: So he set the bar high and we believe in you.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and I'm the Brian who did the fans picks
Speaker 11: earlier in the year.
Speaker 7: Laugh.
Speaker 11: Do you remember that?
Speaker 5: I do remember that? Well done?
Speaker 11: Yeah? Uh obviously, Uh love the trade and the best
Speaker 11: the best thing about it, and in my opinion is
Speaker 11: that the front office, you know, they said, well, the
Speaker 11: defense derailed this season, but we're not going to allow
Speaker 11: it to derail us the next couple of seasons and
Speaker 11: so obviously gives hope for the future and a little
Speaker 11: bit of hope hoping for this year. I mean, looking
Speaker 11: at the schedule, they're they're probably gonna have to go
Speaker 11: seven to one to make the playoffs. And it's not
Speaker 11: worried about beating the Raiders of the Eagles deck owns
Speaker 11: on to the NFC East at home like eighteen straight
Speaker 11: or something crazy like that. It's really going to come
Speaker 11: down to that Thanksgiving Day game and if the defense
Speaker 11: can win us a couple of games down the stretch,
Speaker 11: they can beat the Chiefs, that allows them to lose
Speaker 11: to the Lines the next week, and then they can
Speaker 11: go four and oh the last four games. So a
Speaker 11: little bit of a little bit of hopeum, especially with
Speaker 11: all players coming back after the buy, the safety's overshown,
Speaker 11: the new linebacker, quint Williams. You know, list goes on
Speaker 11: and on. So a little bit of hope um for
Speaker 11: this year. But yeah, definitely looking forward to those two
Speaker 11: first round picks and Quintin Williams leading the lay next year.
Speaker 5: There you go.
Speaker 3: Appreciate you, Brian, yeahciate you man, Thank you so much.
Speaker 9: I love the fact that he pointed out. O reiterated
Speaker 9: what you pointed out earlier is these are particularly Quinn Williams.
Speaker 9: When you look at the Kenny Clark trade in addition
Speaker 9: to Quentin Williams trade. This is as much a move
Speaker 9: now to try to put a crowbar in that window
Speaker 9: and you know, take from and just try to just
Speaker 9: try to leverage that thing open as best you can.
Speaker 9: But if for whatever reason that just does not pan out,
Speaker 9: you still have them those two guys under contract through
Speaker 9: the twenty twenty seventh season.
Speaker 8: That's exactly what we wanted out of a trade like this.
Speaker 8: You have the ability to have them on the roster
Speaker 8: to build for the future, and Shot he has them
Speaker 8: to sort of plan around going forward, and Eberflus if
Speaker 8: he decides to say or if we decide to keep.
Speaker 5: Eberflu whatever that is.
Speaker 8: I'm just saying, I think it's good for the future
Speaker 8: of the team, and obviously you have a lot to
Speaker 8: build on and for those cornerstones if you're willing.
Speaker 6: To the numbers.
Speaker 9: Because we're trying to take our calls we want to
Speaker 9: hear from our family today. But in about one minute,
Speaker 9: I'm going to hit publish on my impact piece, which
Speaker 9: is all the science of the whole thing, including salary
Speaker 9: camp implication implications. How can this impact George Pickens, so
Speaker 9: forth and so on and so check out?
Speaker 2: Can they still resign? George Pickens? Just give us a
Speaker 2: yes or no answer? Yes, okay?
Speaker 3: Cool?
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Speaker 5: Said?
Speaker 3: Check out the dot dot show and it'll be there
Speaker 3: for you. All the numbers, answers, all your question. I
Speaker 3: just want to remind people, and he just brought it
Speaker 3: to our attention. A lot of people are remember talking
Speaker 3: about to talk about it. Was it worth giving up
Speaker 3: the first round in the second round? Yes, let me
Speaker 3: just remind you what you still have in the new
Speaker 3: shoddy right, just be the first draft other shot second? Well, yes,
Speaker 3: second second, undershoty first two first round picks in twenty six, Yes,
Speaker 3: kept them both. Reminder in twenty six after this season,
Speaker 3: you have two first round picks, a fourth, two fifths
Speaker 3: to sevens.
Speaker 2: And you'll get some comps. Probably you'll probably get two.
Speaker 8: Or three no Day two picks, Isaiah.
Speaker 5: Because that's been working out so well for you.
Speaker 3: But you get to first oh really, two first rounders
Speaker 3: get to come onto the roster end this coming year,
Speaker 3: this following season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the social team was laughing at my disparity yesterday
Speaker 2: because I was like, oh, we still get two first
Speaker 2: round picks for the draft show. And then I was like, wait,
Speaker 2: we don't have any Day two picks. And I was like,
Speaker 2: we're going to be up here all day on Day
Speaker 2: two without a pick. That's what it's gonna end up being. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: if something ends up happening from a comps standpoint, or
Speaker 2: even in the options two first, but yeah two versus
Speaker 2: nice two first. Schottenheimer did allude to it yesterday that
Speaker 2: he could get back to you could use one of
Speaker 2: those first to get back into multiple picks in the
Speaker 2: day two scenario if you want absolutely but two first. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, Next caller. I've seen it a couple of
Speaker 2: times in the comments section. You guys have been missing
Speaker 2: this callar. He calls in pretty often. He's one of
Speaker 2: our favorites, and there were conversations previously of where is
Speaker 2: he is he gonna call again? Of course he's gonna
Speaker 2: call again because he's Nebbie in Silvery, Maryland.
Speaker 5: What's going on, Nebbe?
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling again?
Speaker 7: Uh uh uh, you're welcome, my pleasure as always, and
Speaker 7: thank you guys so much for taking my call. Listen. Uh,
Speaker 7: I have a comment and two questions. My two questions
Speaker 7: are one, how do you guys think uh my favorite player,
Speaker 7: Cooper bb uh I played this this past Monday night
Speaker 7: in his return from injury.
Speaker 12: Uh uh uh uh uh.
Speaker 7: Uh uh uh. My second question is, uh could you
Speaker 7: see Jerry Jones.
Speaker 12: Uh uh uh uh could you see Jerry Jones firing
Speaker 12: uh uh uh shaddy uh uh uh uh uh uh
Speaker 12: uh uh uh after one year? Because I uh I
Speaker 12: don't think he will uh because I think he's gonna
Speaker 12: give him some uh uh sometime based on Jerry Jones's
Speaker 12: track record with coaches.
Speaker 7: And finally, my comment is h I samely admit that
Speaker 7: that I believe our season is now over huh but
Speaker 7: but but but that being said, uh, we still need
Speaker 7: to win games uh because we need to uhh we
Speaker 7: need to build build momentum and see where we are
Speaker 7: uh at the end of the season. Uh. Take care.
Speaker 7: Thanks for being patient with me uh uh uh. I
Speaker 7: love you guys and have a great week.
Speaker 2: But Lobby appreciate you. Nabby knows Ball. Two great questions
Speaker 2: and a statement that I think a lot of Cowboys
Speaker 2: fans do resonate with a little bit there. We'll start
Speaker 2: with Cooper BB. What did you think about his performance?
Speaker 3: From what I've seen on a film, Cooper BB had
Speaker 3: had a good showing. It wasn't nothing that was dominant,
Speaker 3: but I felt like the guys that were kind of,
Speaker 3: you know, in his hip pockets in terms of his guards.
Speaker 3: I don't think they had the greatest of games, and
Speaker 3: it probably impacted how some may perceive Coober Beebe's game.
Speaker 8: I would argue he didn't have a great game. I
Speaker 8: don't think the offensive line had a great game. They
Speaker 8: were getting pushed around quite a bit. They were out
Speaker 8: physical for sure against the Cardinals. My thing here is that,
Speaker 8: especially talking to Nate about yesterday, it's like this the
Speaker 8: offensive line that you started off with camp has not
Speaker 8: been together very much.
Speaker 12: Ye.
Speaker 8: I mean, you've seen a lot of injuries along the
Speaker 8: offensive line, so it's just like they don't have the
Speaker 8: groove necessarily or the chemistry together. They're not playing as
Speaker 8: a unit. They're playing sort of individuals right now. The
Speaker 8: more reps that they get together, the better they will be.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I think that was just a really bad outing for
Speaker 8: them outside looking in. As far as Brian Schottenheimer, I
Speaker 8: had a lot of critics.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that. I want to hear about Cooper.
Speaker 9: I don't think anybody on the offensive line had a
Speaker 9: good game, and that's just a fact. And now everything
Speaker 9: ties to the other thing. So, like Isaiah was saying, well,
Speaker 9: one of the reasons that Boebe struggled was because the
Speaker 9: guards on his left and right were struggling. And a
Speaker 9: lot of the reason they struggled was because the the
Speaker 9: edges were struggling right with the tackles. So nobody had
Speaker 9: a good game on the offensive line. Nobody escapes my
Speaker 9: blame when it comes to that. But I will also
Speaker 9: say that it was Boebe's first game back, and over
Speaker 9: a month it'll get better. We know it will because
Speaker 9: he's proving what he can.
Speaker 2: Be, and that that's my thing is it takes a
Speaker 2: little bit of time to get back into the fold
Speaker 2: and to be a starter up front. I don't think
Speaker 2: he had a Cooper B B type game. I don't
Speaker 2: think it was what it was. But he also didn't
Speaker 2: allow a pressure. He was one of the only guys
Speaker 2: on the front that did not allow a pressure in
Speaker 2: a game, like Josh said, where the offensive line just
Speaker 2: didn't play well as a whole. I don't think he
Speaker 2: played above anybody else, but he did his serviceable job
Speaker 2: good enough to be the only guy that didn't allow
Speaker 2: a pressure at one point in the ball game. Moving
Speaker 2: to coach Shottenheimer in the question there of moving on
Speaker 2: after one year, I'll let you start, but I certainly
Speaker 2: don't see that being the case.
Speaker 8: I don't think so either. I think he's building a
Speaker 8: culture that you're seeing in evidence. Trading Masie Smith to
Speaker 8: me is a big indicator of that, and having inactive
Speaker 8: him inactive for a lot of games this season for
Speaker 8: me as an indicator of that. I had it a
Speaker 8: lot of criticism criticism of him during the game. As
Speaker 8: far as the plague caller Brian Schottenheimer goes, I didn't
Speaker 8: love his red zone efficiency. I didn't love the plague
Speaker 8: calls that he was making at the red zone, especially
Speaker 8: that first drive when you get down to the four
Speaker 8: and you don't run it two times in a Rowisponte Williams,
Speaker 8: who was cooking on that drive.
Speaker 5: I was very critical of that.
Speaker 8: But all that to be said, I think those are
Speaker 8: tendencies that he has as far as the red zone goes.
Speaker 8: But like, there's no there's no guesswork on who the
Speaker 8: leader of the coaching staff is and if the guys
Speaker 8: are sort of following suit in the culture that he's building.
Speaker 8: There's no way that you move on from Brian scht
Speaker 8: Schottenheimer at this point. And that's not something that I
Speaker 8: would have said when he was first hired. I wasn't
Speaker 8: excited about that pick. It wasn't exciting for us. There
Speaker 8: were a lot of names being floated out there, and
Speaker 8: I was like, wait, really, Brian Schotteiner.
Speaker 2: Kind of felt like a wait and see ghire. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So to wait and not see is kind of a
Speaker 2: weird thing. Like to to everybody's point whenever he was
Speaker 2: even hired, is this is going to take some time.
Speaker 2: It's going to take a little bit. Yeah, and you've
Speaker 2: seen the good things through the off season. We talked
Speaker 2: about checking the boxes all the way through the off season.
Speaker 2: He did that, so why not give him a little
Speaker 2: bit of time to do that.
Speaker 8: I think a big part of it, too, is like
Speaker 8: you kind of understand why those conversations with the front
Speaker 8: office with the Jones, is why those lasted so long
Speaker 8: during the hiring process of Brian Schotner during the highing
Speaker 8: process of becoming the head coach.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, you just heard that.
Speaker 8: Those meetings were taking so long and just you could
Speaker 8: tell he was kind of trying to sell them on
Speaker 8: the idea. At this point, it's like, I don't know
Speaker 8: how you speak to that man and not be sold
Speaker 8: on his his leadership. Right, So, at least for me
Speaker 8: right now, that there's no change there, I was little
Speaker 8: concerned as the play calling goes last week, but it's
Speaker 8: just things weren't going well across the board. Your offensive
Speaker 8: line wasn't doing a great job.
Speaker 5: It just it was rough. Yeah, I'll say it this way.
Speaker 5: It's shotty perfect.
Speaker 9: No, he's getting his lumps, and that stands to reason
Speaker 9: because this is his first time ever as an NFL
Speaker 9: head coach, so you're gonna have to take your lumps.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 9: So, there are play calls that I know he wants back.
Speaker 9: There are some decisions I know he wants back, and
Speaker 9: I know that he wishes that he was more involved
Speaker 9: in the defensive side of the room earlier in the
Speaker 9: season instead of waiting for the wheels to start falling off.
Speaker 9: That being said, you got your guy. Yeah, you got
Speaker 9: your guy, Brian Schottenheimer. He has the business, he has
Speaker 9: the Kovorka and now it's just a matter of getting
Speaker 9: the defensive side to match serve with what the offense
Speaker 9: can be, and then getting the offensive side to stop
Speaker 9: the self inflicted wounds.
Speaker 5: It's less of.
Speaker 9: Their struggles are less on a play calling front, although
Speaker 9: they are there as well, but they're more so on
Speaker 9: the self inflicted wound front. Okay, the penalties and you know,
Speaker 9: just not executing like you're supposed to be executing. But
Speaker 9: all things considered, like Josh said, I don't know how
Speaker 9: you look at so far the total body of work,
Speaker 9: which is small. I don't know you look at the
Speaker 9: total body of work with this offense was doing when
Speaker 9: it was cooking. Look at the culture that he's establishing.
Speaker 9: Look at how he and guys like Aaron Whitecotton, who's
Speaker 9: only here because of Shoddy, by the way, have influenced
Speaker 9: the front office to change direction on how they attack
Speaker 9: a position like defensive tackle. Right, Aaron white Cotton three
Speaker 9: for three, like Shoddy said, but that's because Shoddy. You're
Speaker 9: listening to him. You brought him in and you're letting
Speaker 9: him sell to the front office shot.
Speaker 5: He's your guy, theckl Vorka, the isness.
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Speaker 2: the official smile of the Dallas Cowboys. Welcome back, Sir Patrick, Josh, Isaiah, Chris.
Speaker 5: We just found out that Isaiah's left handed.
Speaker 2: I'm going to continue pushing past this. We're going to
Speaker 2: continue talking football. Isaiah. You didn't get a chance to
Speaker 2: answer the question through out there about coach Schottenheimer building
Speaker 2: culture and having the conversation after one year on whether
Speaker 2: or not knew him all right, even though he's under contract.
Speaker 3: Shotty is your guy. He's a culture center, he's a
Speaker 3: culture creator. These guys are following along, The coaching staff
Speaker 3: is following along. There's no question as to where the
Speaker 3: where the dial is pointing, is pointing up for the
Speaker 3: Cowboys right now, so they are in good hands with
Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheimer. You brought up Aaron Whitecotton. Interesting, we gotten
Speaker 3: gone forty four minutes and hadn't brought up Aaron Whitecott.
Speaker 3: Aaron and Aaron Whitecotton came from where New York or
Speaker 3: New York where Jets Jets. He was the defensive line
Speaker 3: coach for whom Quinn will Solomon Thomas, Solomon Thomas and
Speaker 3: Quinn Williams and Perry and Winfrey and Perry on Winfrey,
Speaker 3: and he got all three of his guys.
Speaker 8: Josh, I like those words too.
Speaker 6: You're gonna ask a question.
Speaker 2: I was about the compensation. There's a lot of circle circulation,
Speaker 2: even like an ESPN artist. Yeah, I that is just so.
Speaker 2: The same guy hate Also, the same guy gave the
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts a D or a D minus or whatever
Speaker 2: for acquiring Sauce Gardener. And my brother in law is
Speaker 2: a Jets fan, huge Jets fan, and I messaged him
Speaker 2: because he put both of them on his story where
Speaker 2: it said a A for the Jets, and it was
Speaker 2: F and D for the Cowboys and the Colts. And
Speaker 2: I was like, the guy who wrote this has to
Speaker 2: be a Jets fan, and he was like, yeah, he
Speaker 2: definitely is, like one is, so I I don't agree
Speaker 2: with that one bet, But the question does bag it's
Speaker 2: a lot to give up a twenty twenty seven first
Speaker 2: round pick on twenty twenty six second round pick and
Speaker 2: Mazzie Smith, which I know Cowboys fans are saying that's
Speaker 2: a throw in, But what were your thoughts on the
Speaker 2: compensation that was allowed for Quinn Williams to get here?
Speaker 6: I liked it. I liked it.
Speaker 5: I like it.
Speaker 3: It was you gave up a second round pick in
Speaker 3: twenty six, so this upcoming draft, you gave up your
Speaker 3: second day pick in twenty seven. You gave up your
Speaker 3: first round pick, so you're giving shoddy one thing I hate.
Speaker 3: I don't hate that at all. Mean, the reason why
Speaker 3: I don't hate this, I know we all got to
Speaker 3: blow through our answers. The reason why I don't hate
Speaker 3: that you use a first round pick to get players
Speaker 3: like this.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely so exactly.
Speaker 3: So people hold on to first round picks like they're
Speaker 3: freaking hoping, because you're hoping that you can acquire somebody
Speaker 3: that pans out to be what Quinn Williams is if
Speaker 3: you can just get that person, then why does everybody
Speaker 3: feel sold the type of way about giving up what
Speaker 3: you were going to hope for for what you.
Speaker 8: Know, because you're hoping that that first round pick is
Speaker 8: going to be something like it's it is at it's
Speaker 8: an unattainable goal. Seriously, you're putting a lot of emphasis
Speaker 8: on on something that is the NFL Draft, And what
Speaker 8: we know about the NFL draft is that it is
Speaker 8: not an exact science. Sorry Patrick, but exactly what you said,
Speaker 8: that is the argument. You're doing that so you can
Speaker 8: get a player like Quinn Williams. How about you just
Speaker 8: go get Quinn?
Speaker 2: Go get him?
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is two words, child, Please.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Seriously, I said, shift that ship one of those ones
Speaker 9: on the body, or put it in a box and
Speaker 9: put some tape on it and stamp that thing.
Speaker 6: You still have get it.
Speaker 8: On, you still have stamp on that thing.
Speaker 5: Put put a stamp on that thing. Stamp to the.
Speaker 2: That's funny, that's that's funny. The one thing that I
Speaker 2: I did have a knock on was just the years.
Speaker 2: And it's more so because I believe the twenty twenty
Speaker 2: seven draft is going to be loaded. That's a big
Speaker 2: draft class where there's a lot of talent across the board.
Speaker 2: I would have flipped them, even though I know traditionally
Speaker 2: the more near sighted first round picks are more valuable
Speaker 2: because they're there.
Speaker 5: I give it.
Speaker 2: However, with the twenty twenty seven draft looking like what
Speaker 2: it's going to be like, I would have rather held
Speaker 2: on to that pick instead.
Speaker 3: I understand your sense one of there, but the reality
Speaker 3: is you have a head coach that you just brought in.
Speaker 3: You're trying to get him going in the right direction.
Speaker 3: You want to give him all the amo he can
Speaker 3: to get into the winning category.
Speaker 6: Now, you don't want to like this organization, you.
Speaker 3: Know, this is my opinion, has has put too much
Speaker 3: emphasis on hoping for the future down the road that
Speaker 3: never comes up. Right, It just never happens. It hasn't happened,
Speaker 3: and that's just being realistic. So stop right, stop and
Speaker 3: play for the now. Like you're watching other teams play
Speaker 3: for the now. You watch the Rams play for the now,
Speaker 3: you watch the Eagles play for the now, You're watching
Speaker 3: the Chiefs play for the everybody's playing for the now,
Speaker 3: but you right, so, like you, you have to get
Speaker 3: to some point, and mister Jones even said it, I
Speaker 3: don't he doesn't have the time. I've never heard him
Speaker 3: talk about timely product.
Speaker 6: Up the last few years. And obviously he's had some
Speaker 6: health scares. But like health and age and all that.
Speaker 3: Stuff that accompany with the fact that you're tired of
Speaker 3: people talking about the nineties.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like you're.
Speaker 5: Tired of it.
Speaker 3: So like you did the documentary, let it like, you
Speaker 3: have to work on them now and you have to
Speaker 3: do things that are not If you keep doing the
Speaker 3: same things, you can expect the same dog on results.
Speaker 3: So I employee, I am so I'm relieved for what
Speaker 3: this organization has done over this past year. This organization
Speaker 3: has gone they complete one eight from what they traditionally do,
Speaker 3: which is always planned to the future. Your first round
Speaker 3: picks of the last few years haven't and they just
Speaker 3: wasn't amazing. Mozzi was a miss, right, you got rid
Speaker 3: of them, right, your offensive linement. You never miss an
Speaker 3: office alignment, right, So you're you're good there for the
Speaker 3: most part. But you can't draft them every year. You
Speaker 3: can't draft them every year, so like you have to
Speaker 3: use what you have. And I think that they're doing
Speaker 3: a heck of a job. I wish they had a
Speaker 3: better record right now. But what they're doing to position
Speaker 3: themselves for this coming year, it would shot his second
Speaker 3: year in the league.
Speaker 6: Oh bro, It's awesome.
Speaker 8: It's building for the future in the way that you
Speaker 8: haven't before. And it's not hoping on hope. It is
Speaker 8: getting guys that you know are going to contribute, aggressive
Speaker 8: in doing it and improving the personnel. It's not about
Speaker 8: coaches anymore.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 2: Come on, enjoy the bye week everybody. We will not
Speaker 2: be here tomorrow. We will not be here Friday. We
Speaker 2: will be back Monday to start taking a look ahead
Speaker 2: at the Raiders game. Except for Isaiah unfortunately, but we
Speaker 2: will be back next week to break it down for
Speaker 2: you to stay safe out there, enjoy your weekend, get
Speaker 2: some resk, go hang out with the fam, have a
Speaker 2: fun time. Indeed, we'll be back for Patrick Nose, Walker,
Speaker 2: Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand back, Chris Beam in the back.
Speaker 2: I'm Kyle Yoman saying so long from Talking Cowboys. Enjoy
Speaker 2: the bye week. We'll see you next Monday.
Speaker 5: We got them.
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