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Speaker 1: Good evening, America. I'd like to tell you we have

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Speaker 1: good news for you tonight, but we don't. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: a very sad edition of Justin Who's no Noise. Our colleague,

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Speaker 1: our friend. I used to call him my taller but

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Speaker 1: younger brother from another mother. Charlie Kirk assassinated in cold

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Speaker 1: blood well doing what he did best, working with college

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Speaker 1: students to get them the confidence they had to be

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Speaker 1: strong conservatives. Amanda, what happened in Utah just a few

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Speaker 1: short hours ago. It's unthinkable, unnecessary, but this is a

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Speaker 1: reckoning moment in America. Whatever happened here, we don't know

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Speaker 1: all the details yet, it is something that America is

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Speaker 1: going to have to deal with in a really big way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, regardless of whether it was domestic or foreign. Charlie

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Speaker 3: He was a huge proponent of the First.

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Speaker 2: Amendment above all else, and he wanted to have open dialogue.

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Speaker 2: He wanted to have conversations because he firmly believed that

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Speaker 2: when you stop talking to the other side, when you

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Speaker 2: when that's the inception of violence. And unfortunately, someone had

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Speaker 2: a lot of hate in their heart today and took

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Speaker 2: it out on Charlie. And I'm only going to say

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Speaker 3: My heart goes out to his.

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Speaker 4: Wife and to their children, and I know that Erica

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Speaker 4: is grieving right now. So I am joining all of

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Speaker 4: you and praying for her for impossible, unexplainable peace in

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Speaker 4: the midst of all of this as a wife myself,

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Speaker 4: and John for you as a husband. We fortunately don't

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Speaker 4: know what that's like, but just unexplainable.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we do.

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Speaker 1: And we're about to head into the morning of twenty

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Speaker 1: four years ago what happened that horrible day on September

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Speaker 1: eleventh of two thousand and one. And tonight we have

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Speaker 1: We have to confront intolerance and hate in the America.

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Speaker 1: We got to stop letting it be the norm. On television.

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Speaker 1: On our discourse, you mentioned Charlie Kirk, the debater in

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Speaker 1: my goodness. Was he an incredible debater. But I want

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Speaker 1: to address something that I've heard on several of my

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Speaker 5: Some of suggested he deserve this.

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Speaker 1: That's just obviously we're not even to dignify that with

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Speaker 1: and I know that for sure not to be true.

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Speaker 1: This was a man of deep faith. He might have

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Speaker 1: disliked the values of the left, but he never hated

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Speaker 1: he always treated people with dignity. Even if he applied

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Speaker 1: so for you guys in the media who want to

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Speaker 1: call him I hater, just stop it now. I can

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Speaker 1: tell you it's factually false. Don't do it, because I

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Speaker 1: There's a lot to be learned here. Bring up to

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Speaker 1: speed on what we do know at this moment. The

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Speaker 1: shooter or shooters are still at large. We believe the

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Speaker 1: shot was fired from a distance, beyond the crowd. Charlie

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Speaker 1: just giving students the courage to stand up for their

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Speaker 1: this great country. It appears that the shot was from

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Speaker 1: shortly thereafter at the hospital. It appears to be a

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Speaker 1: skilled marksman. That's what we're hearing from law enforcement, and

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Speaker 1: network all night long. Facts matter, even in a moment

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Speaker 1: It's really not that difficult what I did, Like we

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Speaker 1: a profound answer. He was a joyful war He was

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Speaker 1: And we are a lesser country tonight, absent his incredible persona,

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Speaker 1: and we grieve with him along with Erica and the kids,

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Speaker 1: and our colleagues here at Justin News, who admits the

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Speaker 5: Knew in real time. All right.

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Speaker 1: I think we have somebody who knows Charlie really well.

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Speaker 1: He was a mentor and advisor supporter. He once ran

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Speaker 1: being Gary, thank you for joining us on this very

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Speaker 6: Thank you, John. I appreciate you having me on. It's

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Speaker 6: not an easy time to be on. But when you call,

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Speaker 6: I got to tell you I was. I had the

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Speaker 6: and he told me this dream he had. He had

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Speaker 7: And at the time, we've been investing in great causes.

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Speaker 6: But you know, Charlie, Charlie asked if we would help

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Speaker 6: And as I got him speaking in front of people

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Speaker 7: So anybody that says that he has hate in his heart,

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Speaker 7: they don't know him. They didn't know him. Okay.

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Speaker 6: He loved everybody just like God expected expects of all

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Speaker 7: And then we have to pray for America.

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Speaker 6: Because we know that you know this, The devil goes

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Speaker 7: And what do we do?

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Speaker 6: We rallied behind this their families and rallied behind their

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Speaker 1: You said that I'll just sit in trajet it like

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Speaker 1: I turned it over to my amazing colleague. But you

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Speaker 1: When I was in Milwaukee last year at the convention,

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Speaker 1: But he knew also he didn't do it without people,

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Speaker 5: And so I just want to say that because I

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Speaker 1: But his face smiled with the second I mentioned your name,

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Speaker 6: I didn't do anything but just help him dream a

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Speaker 6: And all of us big dreamers never dreamed as big

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Speaker 6: Last I talked to him on Sunday. He was coming

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Speaker 6: Well, I was in South Korea and Japan, and I'm

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Speaker 6: talking to all different groups of people and leaders that

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Speaker 6: to hear from him, and so we can't let this

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Speaker 6: People like myself and other people that love this man

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Speaker 5: Amen to that.

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Speaker 2: Garrett, you were such a shrewd business man. I have

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Speaker 2: what was it about him, or his delivery, or his

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Speaker 7: And I think there's nothing he could have led in

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Speaker 1: He would have been a CEO of a great company

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Speaker 7: So you're exactly right.

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Speaker 7: But but they're.

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Speaker 6: And so you know, what what he's created is is really,

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 6: But but yeah, it's such a difference in college campuses.

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Speaker 2: You are right, Garry Charlie was was so one of

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Speaker 6: I think it's going to continue at a We're gonna,

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Speaker 6: I'm not stopping. I'm not gonna let this stop. And

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Wow, from your lips to God's there is we got

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Speaker 5: Gary, It's an honor to have you on the show.

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Speaker 1: And I couldn't think of a better person who could

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Speaker 6: Thank you, and pray pray for Charlie, Charlie and his family.

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Speaker 6: We will never forget this man. Just like we didn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah we shan't. We shan't. We'd be a mistake to

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Speaker 5: We've got more around the corner.

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Speaker 1: The FBI has a lot of work ahead of it

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Speaker 3: Messages, Welcome back everybody.

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Speaker 2: Before we get to our next guest, just a quick

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Speaker 3: Shortly, Utah's Governor.

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Speaker 3: So we're going to dip into that in a moment.

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Speaker 2: But John, I think about all of the interactions that

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Speaker 2: But he he never was too busy to talk to people.

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Speaker 1: I love the event he did a few months ago

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Speaker 1: And it's probably that success that made someone want to

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Speaker 5: We got a good one, don't we Yes, we do.

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Speaker 3: Chris, thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 10: Good evening, John, Amanda, And before we get started, I'd

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Speaker 2: Walk us through what's happening there on the ground in Utah.

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Speaker 2: What's the process here? Who all is on the ground,

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Speaker 10: What you have right now is a process of of course,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be a complex event, and when

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Speaker 1: law enforcement so far, which isn't a lot of detail.

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Speaker 1: But where why that lead the early search? I assume buildings, rooftops,

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Speaker 1: windows might be the place that the FBI is going

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Speaker 1: to look quicker quickly for right that's correct.

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Speaker 10: They'll bring in the FBI Laboratory Division to support our

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Speaker 10: state and local partners, and they'll start looking at again trajectory,

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Speaker 10: and they'll look at the way the video shot was

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Speaker 10: taken and they'll recreate what happened. And there's some footage

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Speaker 10: that I just saw a few minutes ago where someone

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Speaker 10: saw a shooter or someone on a rooftop. And what

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Speaker 10: they're going to do is they're going to look at

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Speaker 10: how that could have happened, and then they're going to

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Speaker 10: look at the security perimeter. And this individual may have

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Speaker 10: been outside the security perimeter. When you mentioned the shot

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Speaker 10: that was taken, the neck or the throat area is

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Speaker 10: not a general target area.

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Speaker 7: Usually you'll have the head or the chest.

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Speaker 10: So this individual may have taken the shot and miscalculated

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Speaker 10: for certain shooting you know, characteristics, and hit him in

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Speaker 10: the throat instead, but it was still a lethal shot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, good observation, Chris.

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Speaker 2: So often in these high profile murders or assassinations, you

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Speaker 2: have ballistic tests that are performed, and that oftentimes gives

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Speaker 2: us a lot of information. I mean, we obviously all

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Speaker 2: know from the Kennedy assassination at assassination a lot of

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Speaker 2: conversations surrounding what we learn from those ballistic tests.

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Speaker 3: What can we glean once.

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Speaker 2: They figure out what was used, can they figure out

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Speaker 2: the source of the weapon, Can they figure out if

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Speaker 2: it was foreign or domestic.

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Speaker 10: I think what you'll find is after they recover any

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Speaker 10: bullet fragments from you know, from Charlie Kirk, and they

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Speaker 10: do an analysis, they'll see what the caliber of the

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Speaker 10: bullet was, whether it was a five five to six

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Speaker 10: round or maybe a three oh eight round or whatever.

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Speaker 10: And then they'll look and see basically, you know, what

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Speaker 10: the weapon platform could have been based upon certain characteristics,

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Speaker 10: and they'll use that in the investigative effort and then

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Speaker 10: try and trace backwards, look for any specific or unique

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Speaker 10: identifying information that could lead them to some suspects that

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Speaker 10: they can you know, conduct investigation and then and move

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Speaker 10: forward to try and find the shooter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we have so many enemies of this country, some

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Speaker 1: are inside, some are outside. Do you look at foreign?

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Speaker 1: Do you look at domestic? There's always chatter out in

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Speaker 1: the in the in the intelligence world. What's your when

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Speaker 1: when you're at the FBI there's a sitroom probably set

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Speaker 1: up or someone's working the intelligence angle too. Do you

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Speaker 1: consider on the eve of nine to eleven that this

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Speaker 1: is foreign or do you mostly look at domestic? Or

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Speaker 1: do you just keep your mind open to all possibilities

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Speaker 1: in the world that we live in, right?

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Speaker 10: Now you have to keep your mind open to all

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Speaker 10: possibilities depending on the symbology of the nine to eleven

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Speaker 10: anniversary versus the awful and divisive political and ideological environment

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Speaker 10: we have in our country right now.

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Speaker 7: You don't want to rule out.

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Speaker 10: Any investigative avenues or investigative areas of motive. But you

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Speaker 10: know the FBI and its partners will will look in

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Speaker 10: all areas and they will leave no stone unturned.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt about.

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Speaker 3: That, Chris.

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Speaker 2: We all know that Charlie was a proponent of freedom,

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Speaker 2: and he therefore was a big supporter of President Trump.

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Speaker 3: So you connect those dots.

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Speaker 2: Is there a good reason for President Trump to have

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Speaker 2: some extra extra extra security over the next few days.

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Speaker 10: I would say anyone of prominence in the conservative media

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Speaker 10: world or political world should probably take a little bit

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Speaker 10: of extra time and look at their surroundings and where

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Speaker 10: they're going and some of the activities that they're involved with.

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Speaker 10: The problem you have here is that in an act

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Speaker 10: of violence such as this, if you can get your

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Speaker 10: I guess you can call them your adversary or your

516
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Speaker 10: opponent to step down, step back, to be afraid to

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Speaker 10: move away from you know their message and their mission.

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Speaker 10: Then you've won, right, And that's why they do these

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Speaker 10: types of things, the people who move to violence. And

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Speaker 10: one thing I will say is that what I'd like

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Speaker 10: to see is a very affirmative, aggressive movement from our

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Speaker 10: law enforcement community to put this type of ideological or

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Speaker 10: terroristic violence down. Hard violence can't be tolerated like this,

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Speaker 10: and there has to be a.

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Speaker 1: Christ if you want to stop it. For a second,

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Speaker 1: we have some news from the director of the FBI,

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Speaker 1: Cash Battel. The subject of the shooting, the person believed

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Speaker 1: to have been the shooter, has been taken into custody.

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Speaker 1: This is about two minutes ago. Thank you to the

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Speaker 1: local and state authorities in Utah for your partnership with

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Speaker 1: at FBI will provide updates when able.

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Speaker 5: We just got that word from cash Battel.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty quick that's a pretty quick turn on

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Speaker 1: someone who probably left the scene, right.

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Speaker 10: I would imagine that person left the scene quickly. But again,

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Speaker 10: with the FBI's vast resources, they can bring in audio

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Speaker 10: visual recognition, and they can bring in their vast investigative

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Speaker 10: authorities and their skill and professionalism with our state and

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Speaker 10: local partners and make sure that we can make that

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Speaker 10: arrest like they did just now. Congratulations City, FBI and

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Speaker 10: its partners on the arrest.

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Speaker 1: All right, Chris, we're going to go to the press conference.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. The governor's just taking this stand.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get you back on tomorrow. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Thank you all right, folks for going live

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Speaker 1: to Governor Cox.

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Speaker 11: Will be co leading this criminal investigation to find this

548
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Speaker 11: killer along with the Federal Bureau of Investigation. We're working

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Speaker 11: in unison with the county Sheriff's office, the local police department,

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Speaker 11: and the University Police department, all of which have been

551
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Speaker 11: very cooperative and fully engaged in this process. Shortly after

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Speaker 11: the shooting, we did have a suspect in custody, George Zin,

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Speaker 11: but he was released from custody after we identified that

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Speaker 11: he did not match the shooting suspect and was not

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Speaker 11: an accurate person of interest. However, he has been booked

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Speaker 11: into the county jail by Utah value University Police Department

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Speaker 11: for obstruction of justice. We do still have an active

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Speaker 11: investigation for the person of interest. This incident occurred with

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Speaker 11: a large crowd around. There was one shot fired and

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Speaker 11: one victim, while the suspect is at large. We believe

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Speaker 11: this was a targeted attack towards one individual. This is

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Speaker 11: a tragic moment in our state and in our country.

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Speaker 11: As we heal, We encourage everyone who's struggling with news

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Speaker 11: of the incident to call nine to eight, our state

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Speaker 11: mental health crisis line. In addition to that, our partners

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Speaker 11: with the FBI will also be discussing other ways we

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Speaker 11: can communicate through the public for tips and other information.

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Speaker 12: Thank you, good afternoon. On behalf the FBI.

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Speaker 13: We extend our sincerest condolences to the family and friends

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Speaker 13: of Charlie Kirk. Our thoughts are also with the people

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Speaker 13: who witness this traumatic event. We know that what you

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Speaker 13: experienced was very difficult. Our thoughts are with you as well.

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Speaker 13: As soon as we heard about the shooting, special agents

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Speaker 13: and personnel from the Salt Lake Field Office responded immediately.

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Speaker 13: We have full resources devoted to this investigation, including tactical, operational,

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Speaker 13: investigative and intelligence.

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Speaker 12: To be clear, the FBI will.

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Speaker 13: Fully support and co lead this investigation alongside with our partners.

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Speaker 13: We are working on setting up a digital medial tip

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Speaker 13: line and as soon as it's established, will get that

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Speaker 13: information out to everyone I.

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Speaker 12: Know there's a lot of questions.

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Speaker 13: This is very much an active case, and this investigation

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Speaker 13: is in its early stages. We are following all the

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Speaker 13: leads and all the evidence. If anyone has any information,

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Speaker 13: please report it to the FBI or local LA enforcement.

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Speaker 12: Thank you.

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Speaker 14: On behalf of President Tuminez, who we've been communicating with,

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Speaker 14: and she's on her way back right now. I say

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Speaker 14: that on behalf of Utah Valley University. We are shocked

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Speaker 14: and saddened by the tragic passing of Charlie Kirk. We

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Speaker 14: express our sincere condolences to the Kirk family. We agree

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Speaker 14: with our students, faculty, and staff who bore witness to

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Speaker 14: this unspeakable tragedy.

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Speaker 12: He was invited by.

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Speaker 15: The student group Turning Point USA to speak on our campus.

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Speaker 15: We firmly believe that UVU is a place to share

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Speaker 15: ideas and to debate openly and respectfully. Any attempt to

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Speaker 15: infringe on those rights has no place here. We do

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Speaker 15: not condone any form of violence ATUVU and seek to

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Speaker 15: make our campus a safe place for all.

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Speaker 16: Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 17: Thank you for joining us on this dark and tragic occasion.

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Speaker 17: I want to thank our law enforcement officers who are

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Speaker 17: leading this investigation, starting with Chief Long and his response

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Speaker 17: here with the UVU Police Department, We're grateful for your

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Speaker 17: leadership and your team, and again to the speakers that

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Speaker 17: you've just heard from who are co leading this investigation.

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Speaker 17: I also want to recognize Sheriff Mike Smith, who has

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Speaker 17: been an invaluable partner as this investigation moves forward. I've

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Speaker 17: been in touch with President Trump, with FBI Director Cash Patel.

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Speaker 17: We are completely aligned with our state and federal partners

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Speaker 17: as we work.

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Speaker 16: Through this case. Now, this is a dark day for

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Speaker 16: our state. It's a tragic day for our nation.

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Speaker 17: And I want to be very clear that this is

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Speaker 17: a political assassination.

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Speaker 16: We are.

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Speaker 17: Celebrating two hundred and fifty years of the founding of

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Speaker 17: this great nation, that founding document, the Declaration of Independence,

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Speaker 17: that this great experiment on which we embark together two

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Speaker 17: hundred and fifty years ago, that we are endowed by

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Speaker 17: our creator with certain unalienable rights. The first one of

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Speaker 17: those is life, and today the life was taken. Charlie

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Speaker 17: Kirk was first and foremost a husband and a dad

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Speaker 17: too young children.

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Speaker 16: He was also.

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Speaker 17: Very much politically involved, and that's why he was here

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Speaker 17: on campus.

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Speaker 16: Charlie believed in the power of free.

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Speaker 17: Speech and debate to shape ideas and to persuade people.

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Speaker 16: Historically, our university.

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Speaker 17: Campuses in this nation and here in the State of

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Speaker 17: Utah have been the place where truth and ideas are

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Speaker 17: formulated and debated. And that's what he does. He comes

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Speaker 17: on college campuses and he debates as foundational to the

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Speaker 17: formation of our country, to our most basic constitutional rights.

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Speaker 16: And when someone takes the life of a person.

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Speaker 17: Because of their ideas or their ideals, then that very

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Speaker 17: constitutional foundation is threatened.

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Speaker 16: Now we have a person of interest in custody.

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Speaker 17: The investigation is ongoing, but I want to make it

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Speaker 17: crystal clear right now to whoever did this, we will

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Speaker 17: find you, we will try you, and we will hold

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Speaker 17: you accountable to the furthest extent of the law. And

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Speaker 17: I just want to remind people that we still have

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Speaker 17: the death penalty here in the state of Utah.

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Speaker 16: Our nation is broken. We've had.

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Speaker 17: Political assassinations recently in Minnesota. We had an attempted assassination

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Speaker 17: on the governor of Pennsylvania, and we had an attempted

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Speaker 17: assassination on a presidential candidate and former president of the

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Speaker 17: United States. And now current President of the United States.

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Speaker 17: Nothing I say can unite us as a country. Nothing

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Speaker 17: I can say right now can fix what is broken.

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Speaker 17: Nothing I can say can bring back Charlie Kirk. Our

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Speaker 17: hearts are broken. We mourn with his wife, his children,

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Speaker 17: his family, his friends. We mourn as a nation.

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Speaker 16: If anyone, in the sound of my.

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Speaker 17: Voice celebrated even a little bit at the news of

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Speaker 17: this shooting, I would beg you to look in the

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Speaker 17: mirror and to see if you can find a better

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Speaker 17: angel in there somewhere. I don't care what his politics are.

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Speaker 17: I care that he was an American. We desperately need

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Speaker 17: our country. We desperately need leaders in our country. But

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Speaker 17: more than the leaders, we just need every single person

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Speaker 17: in this country to think about where we are and

667
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Speaker 17: where we want to be, to ask ourselves, is this

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Speaker 17: is it? Is this what two hundred and fifty years

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Speaker 17: has wrought on us. I pray that that's not the case.

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Speaker 17: I pray that those who hated what Charlie Cook stood

671
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Speaker 17: for will put down their social media and their pens

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Speaker 17: and pray for his family, and that all of us,

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Speaker 17: all of us will try to find a way to

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Speaker 17: stop painting our fellow Americans.

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Speaker 16: With that, We're happy to take a few questions.

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Speaker 10: The FBI director is posting that is social that a

677
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Speaker 10: suspect is in custody, which is like clarification, do you or.

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Speaker 12: Do you not have a suspected.

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Speaker 16: Shooter in customer?

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Speaker 17: We have a person of interest in custody that is

681
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Speaker 17: being interviewed right now.

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Speaker 16: We do. That is not George sim That is correct.

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Speaker 12: Born are looking for another shooter or anybody.

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Speaker 5: Else for the US.

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Speaker 17: Yes, we are actively looking for anyone and everyone who

686
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Speaker 17: has any any possible information relating to the shooting.

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Speaker 10: Can you tell us detail us about the suspect being

688
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Speaker 10: taken into custody where you know how long ago?

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Speaker 17: We cannot at this point, but we will get you

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Speaker 17: that information when when we can.

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Speaker 7: Is there believe to be a second individual.

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Speaker 12: Involved in the shooting?

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Speaker 17: At this point, there is no information that would lead

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Speaker 17: us to believe that there is a second person involved.

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Speaker 12: Can you guys start the possible shooting?

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Speaker 16: We but you do want to talk about what we

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Speaker 16: know there.

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Speaker 11: The only information we have on the suspect, the possible

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Speaker 11: shooter is taken from close circuit TV here on campus.

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Speaker 11: We do have that We're analyzing it. But it is

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Speaker 11: security camera footage, so you can you can kind of

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Speaker 11: guess what the what the quality of that is. But

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Speaker 11: we do know dressed in all all dark clothing. But

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Speaker 11: we don't have much better description other than that the

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Speaker 11: shot came from here on campus, from a location at

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Speaker 11: a third potentially from a roof, yes, a longer distance

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Speaker 11: shot from a roof.

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Speaker 12: So clarify it.

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Speaker 18: With the security camera footage you have and the person

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Speaker 18: interests that's in custody, do those.

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Speaker 7: Does not have That's what we're trying to decipher right now.

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Speaker 13: So did an FBI or DHS at anything of the

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Speaker 13: threatfold this morning?

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Speaker 5: I can't speak that.

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Speaker 13: We'll just say that the investigation is ongoing and as

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Speaker 13: soon as we have further information, we will be sure

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Speaker 13: to release it.

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Speaker 12: Any infidations, foreign intelligence involvement. As now, I can't comment

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Speaker 12: on any of that. Can you talk a little about

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Speaker 12: this or security of an event itself?

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Speaker 6: But who was there security wise and what happens on these.

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Speaker 8: Kind of events?

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Speaker 5: Chi fuck.

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Speaker 7: So, my name is Jeff Long.

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Speaker 18: I'm the police chief here at UVU and I'll tell

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Speaker 18: you right now we are devastated. We're a small, small

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Speaker 18: police department. We have a very large campus. We have

728
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Speaker 18: over forty thousand students, and we love our students, we

729
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Speaker 18: love our visitors, and we're devastated by what happened today.

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Speaker 18: This is the police chief's nightmare. I'm very saddened for

731
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Speaker 18: the Kirk family.

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Speaker 5: I know his.

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Speaker 18: Wife and parents found out about this. You know, obviously

734
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Speaker 18: he's away from home, he's here in Utah. They find

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Speaker 18: out by police officer that visits their home. That's tragic.

736
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Speaker 18: Nobody wants that. But I can tell you about our

737
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Speaker 18: venue today. This was an open venue. This is outside.

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Speaker 18: We did have six officers work in that event. We

739
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Speaker 18: had probably over three thousand people that were in attendance,

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Speaker 18: sat down in kind of a bowl area. Here on

741
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Speaker 18: the central campus, we have a waterfall area and so

742
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Speaker 18: he was kind of in a lower area surrounded by

743
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Speaker 18: by buildings. You know, we we had uh some playing

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Speaker 18: close police officers that were in the crowd as well.

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Speaker 12: You know, we trained for.

746
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Speaker 18: These things, and you think, you know, you have things covered,

747
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Speaker 18: and you know these things, you know, unfortunately they happen.

748
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Speaker 18: You try to get you try to get your bases covered,

749
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Speaker 18: and unfortunately today we didn't. And because of that, we

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Speaker 18: had this tragic incident. So we did have officers there.

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Speaker 18: We had Charlie Kirk's team. He has a security team

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Speaker 18: that travels with him and they were here with him

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Speaker 18: when when he when he was shot.

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Speaker 12: I'm sorry, see I at this point, I can't disclose

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Speaker 12: that shot.

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Speaker 16: Question he asked about that shooting, and to ask that question.

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Speaker 7: Say the question again, I don't know if I understand what.

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Speaker 18: You're saying about mass shooting specifically, was that personal apprehended?

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Speaker 7: And do you know who to ask that question?

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Speaker 5: I do not.

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Speaker 7: We do not have that at this moment.

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Speaker 9: Later, ladies and gentlemen, we have time for just one

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Speaker 9: more question, so thank you.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, was it your.

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Speaker 10: Team or Kurt team or a combination of both that

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Speaker 10: kind of set the security protocols for the event.

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Speaker 18: So we work together. You know, he has his team

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Speaker 18: and they do this all of the country. We all

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Speaker 18: know that this is not uncommon for them. Uh They're

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Speaker 18: very comfortable on campuses. And I was coordinating with his

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Speaker 18: lead security guy and uh so, yeah, we were working together.

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Speaker 10: Type of shop.

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Speaker 12: Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 17: That's that's Those are all the questions that will be

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Speaker 17: answered today. Again, thank you for for covering this. Uh,

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Speaker 17: we will be will be updating you as soon as

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Speaker 17: we have additional information through through normal channels working with

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Speaker 17: law enforcement. Again, are our deepest condolences to the to

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Speaker 17: the Kurk family and into the students who were there today.

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Speaker 17: And I would just ask everyone everywhere to please pray

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Speaker 17: for their family and to pray for our country.

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Speaker 16: We need it now more than ever. Thank you.

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Speaker 5: All Right, folks, let's get you quick.

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Speaker 1: They have to speed on what just transpired at that

785
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Speaker 1: news conference. Governor Cox, like FBI Director Cash Btel, confirming

786
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Speaker 1: a person of interest is in custody.

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Speaker 5: He's being interrogated. They believe he may be the shooter.

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Speaker 1: There is video footage which we have seen Eric, justin

789
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Speaker 1: news and at Real America's Voice excuse me, that shows

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Speaker 1: the shooter on a roof. Police chief for the Utah

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Speaker 1: University confirming that the shot likely was taking a single

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Speaker 1: shot which hit Charlie Kirk in the throat area. And

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Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot more. An interesting moment in

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Speaker 1: the conversation they asked if they can roll out any

795
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Speaker 1: foreign involvement. They said they couldn't address that issue yet.

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Speaker 1: That's an area I know A federal law enforcement is

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Speaker 1: looking at right now. We're going to keep you up

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Speaker 1: to speed on that as we develop over the next hour.

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Speaker 1: But right now we've got a fantastic guest. He represents

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Speaker 1: the state of Indiana in the United States House. He's

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Speaker 1: Congressman Marlon Stussman, Congressman. Good to have you on the

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Speaker 1: show on such a tragic day.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, John and Amanda.

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Speaker 9: It's obviously just heartbreaking to see what happened and to

805
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Speaker 9: hear what happened to Charlie Cook this afternoon.

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Speaker 8: We had votes on the.

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Speaker 9: Floor a little bit ago, and the mood on the

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Speaker 9: floor is just shocked.

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Speaker 8: You know, our hearts are.

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Speaker 9: Broken for Erica and their young children. Our thoughts and

811
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Speaker 9: prayers are with the Kirk family. There's so many emotions

812
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Speaker 9: that I know all of us are going through right now.

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Speaker 9: Obviously sadness, but also I'll be honest, for me, it's

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Speaker 9: a little bit of anger.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 9: Here one person silenced a voice that was talking with three.

817
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Speaker 8: Thousand young people.

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Speaker 9: Charlie was an inspiration to young people across this country.

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Speaker 9: For one person who hads the freedom here in America

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Speaker 9: to assassinate somebody that he disagreed with it's a sad

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Speaker 9: day for America that it is a Congressman.

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk's circle of friends reached all the way up

823
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Speaker 2: to Capitol Hill, and he led a generation of people

824
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Speaker 2: who oftentimes inspired and even pushed for changes in legislation.

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Speaker 2: His presence, I imagine, or the lack thereof, is going to

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Speaker 2: be felt in the halls of Congress.

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Speaker 3: Who isn't it?

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Speaker 9: Oh? Absolutely? You know my son, I have two boys,

829
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Speaker 9: gen Zers that just admired Charlie, and our oldest son

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Speaker 9: is a student at Liberty University. He was the chapter

831
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Speaker 9: president of TPUSA last year and he just called me

832
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Speaker 9: a little bit ago. You could just hear the sadness

833
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Speaker 9: in his voice.

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Speaker 8: And they're there.

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Speaker 9: They were having a prayer vigil before it was announced

836
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Speaker 9: that Charlie was assassinated. But you know, there's hundreds of

837
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Speaker 9: thousands of young people across this country that are hearing

838
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Speaker 9: the news today of Charlie's assassination and it's going to

839
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 9: have an incredible impact on them and their worldview on

840
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Speaker 9: what happened today. And the impact that he had on

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Speaker 9: Capitol Hill was incredible. You know, anybody that has the

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Speaker 9: ability to communicate to the younger generations. The way that

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Speaker 9: Charlie did is always a person that we all admire

844
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Speaker 9: because he's engaging young people into a conversation, you know,

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Speaker 9: with the freedom of speech that we had on college

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Speaker 9: campuses across the country. And there's so much admiration for

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Speaker 9: him on Capitol Hill for being fearless, but also the

848
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Speaker 9: way that he communicated with young people and his actions

849
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Speaker 9: spoke so much and it's a huge, incredible loss for

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Speaker 9: our country today.

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Speaker 1: Sarah, I want to turn to just one other topic.

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Speaker 1: You have so eloquently captured what Charlie has done. You

853
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Speaker 1: also are such an important voice for what's going on

854
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Speaker 1: in Syria and some of the ethnic minority cleansing going on.

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Speaker 1: You're perhaps one of the most cojing voices in Congress

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Speaker 1: on this. Right now, tell us just a little bit

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Speaker 1: about what we need to keep our eye on there

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Speaker 1: and what we in the United States can do to

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Speaker 1: stop some of this horrific behavior.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 9: I was planning on talking, as you said, about the

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Speaker 9: Christians and Drews in Soueda in Syria who have been

863
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Speaker 9: just without mercy killed by militia in Syria, you know,

864
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Speaker 9: and here it's it just happened in our own country

865
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Speaker 9: today where hatred assassinated somebody and that he disagreed with.

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Speaker 8: And we're seeing the same thing in the Middle East.

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Speaker 9: You know, the hatred that happened October seventh coming out

868
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Speaker 9: of Gaza towards the Jews in Israel, And now we're

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Speaker 9: seeing Christians and Drews that are being assassinated just point

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Speaker 9: blank without any mercy in Sueda. And so you know,

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Speaker 9: our our request of the President and our Secretary of

872
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Speaker 9: State and others who have any influence that there'd be

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Speaker 9: a humanitarian aid route opened up for the Druids in

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Speaker 9: Sueda and the Christians in Sueda.

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Speaker 8: But again it's the same hatred. John.

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Speaker 9: It's so discouraging today to see that, you know, the

877
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 9: hatred that happens over in Syria is also happening right

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Speaker 9: here in our own country, whether it's the young Ukraine

879
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 9: lady on a bus who is stabbed to death, or

880
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Speaker 9: Charlie Kirk who is assassinated on a college campus. And

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Speaker 9: this is the sort of hatred that needs to stop

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Speaker 9: and needs to be ended.

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Speaker 2: Carsman, I think for so many of us, we see

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Speaker 2: the political discourse in this country in the direction that

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Speaker 2: it's been going, and we immediately jump to this is

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Speaker 2: domestic at someone on the left, But this could be foreign.

887
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: If it is foreign, how do we retaliate do we retaliate?

888
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 8: Well, I think, you know, just.

889
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 9: Like with President Trump, I am, you know, I have

890
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 9: would not be surprised, and I'm actually very suspicious, would

891
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 9: not you know, I would believe that there was a

892
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 9: foreign component to the shooter somehow. You know, this is

893
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 9: what they do in the Middle East. You know, they

894
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 9: hire young people when we.

895
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 8: See this in the drug trade in Chicago. They hire

896
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 8: these young.

897
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 9: People to go out and assassinate and shoot people wherever.

898
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 5: You know.

899
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 9: Their mission is to to you know, spread hate and

900
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 9: create terrorism.

901
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 8: And so if there is a.

902
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 9: Foreign component to it, and our leaders find out, I am,

903
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 9: I believe that President Trump will be sure that justice

904
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 9: is served and if the shooter that they have apprehended

905
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 9: somehow gives any indication that there is there will be

906
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 9: you know, further justice. And you know, this person who

907
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 9: assassinated Charlie Kirk. I was grateful to hear the governor's

908
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 9: comments from Utah that they will follow the law as

909
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 9: far as they can and the justice will be served,

910
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 9: including the death penalty in Utah. But I'm praying for

911
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 9: all the people involved right now and a praying for

912
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 9: our country because you know, the political shootings that have

913
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 9: happened over the past several months have got to stop.

914
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 9: And it's so discouraging today to see that a great

915
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 9: leader like Charlie was assassinated.

916
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's heartbreaking, and you're right, the final victim. And

917
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: this is our country that we have to get a

918
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: grip on this intolerance. For two hundred and forty plus years,

919
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: we were good at a great disagree with each other

920
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: but letting our words speak for themselves. But we seem

921
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: to have a generation that doesn't see a human when

922
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: they shoot at them. They see some video character or

923
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: some android. And I don't know how we get this

924
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: culture of civility back. I know you and your colleagues

925
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: talk about it, some thoughts about where we start this process,

926
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: what we need. When we were struck on nine to eleven,

927
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 1: we all agreed that we need to stand up that hatred.

928
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: But today my colleagues just down the hall here at NBC,

929
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: they had people on suggesting that Charlie was the reason

930
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: you got shot.

931
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 5: How do we how do we get over this insanity.

932
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 9: Well, first of all, I believe it starts with faith

933
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 9: in God and respecting human life. You know, that's why

934
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 9: the abortion issue is such an important issue for us

935
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 9: as Republicans, that we protect human life. I mean, you

936
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 9: know what, Charlie's not coming back, Charlie's not waking up

937
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 9: tomorrow morning, and his boys are without a father today.

938
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 9: That is heartbreaking and heart wrenching. And if any person

939
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 9: hears and just realizes that, you know what, you may disagree,

940
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 9: I don't care if it's over what kind of food

941
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 9: you like or the political positions that you take. It

942
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 9: is never ever right to take another person's life. God

943
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 9: gave us life, and I think that that's what's important,

944
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 9: is that we need to realize that life is such

945
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 9: a gift and that God has given each one of

946
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 9: us that that gift. And you know what, if you're struggling,

947
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 9: if you are, you know, uncertain about life, I mean, fine, ants,

948
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 9: there's answers, And of course I would encourage people to

949
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 9: go to church, go to the Bible. There are good

950
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 9: answers there that can help any person to find their

951
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 9: way through life. And you're taking it out on another

952
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 9: person it's not the right way to do it.

953
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not the American way, it's not the way

954
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: we've done it. And sir, you are such an outlooking

955
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: voice on so many issues. It's a great honor on

956
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: this tragic evening to have you here to help us

957
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: come to grasp with what happened.

958
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 5: Thank you for joining us there.

959
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 8: Thank you, appreciate you both.

960
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: What a great guy and what an extraordinary person. What

961
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: a great person to memorialize Charlie. All right, we're gonna

962
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: take a quick commercial break, catch our breasts. We're going

963
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: to come back with one final segment before we hand

964
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: off to the one and only Grand Stinchfeld.

965
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 3: We'll be right back, folks, Welcome back everybody.

966
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: As John hinted at in the last segment, Yes, when

967
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: we got off the elevators at the building, NBC is

968
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: right across the wh and I have to admit John

969
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: that I'm not nearly as diplomatic as you are. And

970
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: I really wanted to throw up a few one of

971
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 2: these four fingers on the inside.

972
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 9: Uh huh.

973
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

974
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 3: But there.

975
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 2: There has been a lot of disgusting, despicable coverage on

976
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 2: the news today and Matthew Dowd on MSNBC was one

977
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: of the perpetrators check it out.

978
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 17: He's been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger

979
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 17: figures in this who is constantly sort of pushing this sort.

980
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 16: Of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups.

981
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 11: And I always go back to hateful thoughts lead to

982
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 11: hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions.

983
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 2: I wonder if when he lays his head down on

984
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 2: his pillow tonight, if he's going to regret saying that.

985
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 3: Maybe probably not honestly.

986
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: On the same note that he was making stupid people

987
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: lead to stupid ideas, and I think we just want

988
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: to witness one of them. I mean, it's just anyone

989
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: who knew Charlie Kirk and this is what happened. People

990
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: who don't know him start opening about him. We know

991
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: that Charlie wasn't hateful. He didn't condemn people at all.

992
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: He just tried to debate with him about what he

993
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: believed was right. The President has just ordered all flags

994
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: to be flown at half staff in the United States.

995
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: That is a rear moment for someone who wasn't a

996
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: government official as usually reserved for presidents. In an extraordinary honor

997
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: for an extraordinary young man who's been stolen from us

998
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: far too early. I was thinking as we drove over

999
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: here Amanda to do the show tonight, that how do

1000
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: you honor a guy like Charlie Kirk? And I know

1001
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: the first answer is you got to carry on the legacy.

1002
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: You cannot let this assassin stop what he's done. In fact,

1003
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: the best way to punish that assassin is to double

1004
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: down on Charlie Kirk. But I'd like to float an

1005
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: idea tonight. You guys on social media tell me whether

1006
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: you like it. If you like it, we're going to

1007
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: go do it. I think we need to have an

1008
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: annual ward called the Charlie Kirk Defender of Freedom Award.

1009
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 1: Because of all the things that Charlie fought for life, faith, family,

1010
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: common sense.

1011
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 5: He believed in the core belief.

1012
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: Of liberty in this country and freedom, and that's really

1013
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: what he was fighting for. He wanted those students to

1014
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: have the freedom to walk safely on campus and to

1015
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: speak their feelings. And just two weeks ago and I

1016
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: briefly talked to Charlie about this. The other day, we

1017
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: had a United States Senator from Democrat who sadly apparently

1018
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: comes from my home state Senator Kine, who actually suggested

1019
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 1: that that freedom doesn't come from our maker, that our

1020
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: defenders and the writers of the Decoration Independent were wrong

1021
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: when they declare that we were bestowed with inalienable rights

1022
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: of freedom from our creator. The greatest way we can

1023
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: fight this is to start the education campaign that freedom

1024
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: is America and that what Charlie was fighting for and

1025
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: died for is that. And so I want to like it.

1026
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 1: You like it, I think we should go do it.

1027
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: Here's the Charlie Kirk Defender Freedom Award.

1028
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 3: Freedom is God's idea.

1029
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 2: Scripture talks about it all throughout the Old and the

1030
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 2: New Testament. Who the Son sets free is free indeed,

1031
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 2: lyrics to one of my favorite praise and worship songs

1032
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 2: rooted in scripture. And for someone like Charlie Kirk, who

1033
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 2: so loved freedom, he is free indeed, he is free indeed,

1034
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 2: and he is going to be watching whoever Steward's Turning

1035
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: Point through its next generation. And I just want to

1036
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: tell all of you at Turning Point, you know, I

1037
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: know you guys are like family, all of you who

1038
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: worked at and with that organization. It was always such

1039
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: a family atmosphere. There in Arizona every time I had

1040
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: the pleasure of visiting the facility. So for all of

1041
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 2: you who are going to be tasked with taking up

1042
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 2: the mantle and continuing on this organization, you are fully capable.

1043
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 2: I know that you all are full of the zest

1044
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: and the patriotism and the love for freedom that he was.

1045
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 3: So take it and run with it.

1046
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 1: Don't let the haters, don't let the haters scare you tonight.

1047
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: That's what they wanted by this act. Stand up to

1048
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: them and punch them back in the mouth. A guy

1049
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: that's good at punching truth in the mouth every day.

1050
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 5: We love him.

1051
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: Grant Stinchfeld, my good friend up nexus. We're going to

1052
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: hand off to him and we're going to take a

1053
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: little bit of time to think about Charlie.

1054
00:53:59,640 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 5: Good night.

1055
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 2: When