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Speaker 3: We are here this week. Okay, we are here this week.
Speaker 3: Took Memorial Day off. You took Memorial Day off, as
Speaker 3: you should have. But the crew is back here. Danny
Speaker 3: McCrae with the day off, all right. Barry Church is
Speaker 3: here in the house. Scrugs. We are here at the
Speaker 3: home of the Dallas Cowboys headquarters.
Speaker 2: Right here in.
Speaker 4: We made text.
Speaker 5: A lot of weather going on around here, a lot
Speaker 5: of playoffs going on around here.
Speaker 3: Last year around here yesterday MAVs game. So I had
Speaker 3: this question I wanted to hit hit Bury with because
Speaker 3: he's a former player. Heck and he his his his
Speaker 3: tax bracket is different than not.
Speaker 4: Hey, you ain't gonna tell me again.
Speaker 3: So I see Michael Parsons at the game yesterday, Diggs
Speaker 3: at the game, Barry.
Speaker 2: Cooper has been at the past two games.
Speaker 3: What are the ticket prices when you want to go
Speaker 3: to a game, like, what is the protocol? Do you
Speaker 3: have a person over there that the guy's got to me?
Speaker 3: How do guys get in on that?
Speaker 6: So current players were talking about Parsons and CD and Audo.
Speaker 6: I'm sure they got a guy because when I played,
Speaker 6: I had a guy to a you know, hey, what's
Speaker 6: going on? I need these tickets here. It didn't know
Speaker 6: getting hooked up, you know, for the most part about it.
Speaker 6: But sometimes you don't get hooked up. And when you're
Speaker 6: looking at them court side seas that I'm gonna run
Speaker 6: you about for the Western Conference final about ten of pop.
Speaker 6: Ten of pop. So I'm not sure if they're paying
Speaker 6: those prices because they might have got a guy that
Speaker 6: can't hook them up down there. But those court south seas, man,
Speaker 6: they get pretty pricey out there, man, they get real pricey.
Speaker 6: But nine times out of ten, they got a guy
Speaker 6: down there that's like, hey, come through, you know, we'll
Speaker 6: put you on the camera, blahlah blah blah blah, and
Speaker 6: they come through and get it done.
Speaker 3: Really so, so you could potentially get it for now, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're good.
Speaker 5: Now we're talking about the upper echelon players like me.
Speaker 5: I always had to face there was no there was
Speaker 5: no dis somebody got they're gonna be able to walk
Speaker 5: up in there a nine times out of ten bands.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, wow. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I went to game three and I was looking down there. No, no, no,
Speaker 6: I don't like basketball that much.
Speaker 7: My god.
Speaker 4: Yeah it was. It's real. It gets real, man.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you went to game three. Yeah, I went
Speaker 2: the game three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, me and nobody from the game.
Speaker 2: All right, so so so on something like that.
Speaker 3: You just called ticket guy, just say hey, look, I'm
Speaker 3: trying to get over here, and then you just kind
Speaker 3: of give a price to where you want.
Speaker 6: To where you want to go or what you're willing
Speaker 6: to wit your budget, and uh yeah, my budget.
Speaker 4: Was nowhere near that that.
Speaker 2: Of course I was about four rows back.
Speaker 4: But still meanwhile on the south side of town, I'm like, man, my.
Speaker 5: Nose is bleeding. These three people in front of me.
Speaker 5: You know, I would have to get past that. You
Speaker 5: know how you get that little step down to the court.
Speaker 5: You know, there's a there's a gap right there, and
Speaker 5: they still they still come and deliver your drinks and.
Speaker 6: You get to go down the little little you know
Speaker 6: how the players yeah, First of all, we don't know
Speaker 6: that church. You're gonna have to explain this to Yeah,
Speaker 6: you know you go down these steps like no, we don't.
Speaker 4: It's like we don't know where is that.
Speaker 2: You know, there's like a little steps.
Speaker 6: So you got court side, you know, two three rolls
Speaker 6: right here and there, just a little like one little step.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So so I go to these games
Speaker 3: all the time. I haven't understand. So when you're coming in,
Speaker 3: do you what you're doing? Like that?
Speaker 2: Are you coming in from the bottom?
Speaker 4: There was the bathroom down here though.
Speaker 6: Okay, So like if I'm going to the bad so
Speaker 6: I'm right there, I'm not going all the way up
Speaker 6: the steps to you. I go down the little where
Speaker 6: the players.
Speaker 4: Come in a little right there.
Speaker 2: I go down the step and you can down yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: down the bows there.
Speaker 4: Where do you park?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: I park?
Speaker 6: So there's a you never heard of hardwood it's like
Speaker 6: a little hardwood bar and there's on top of it
Speaker 6: it's a little parking spot. I used residential shopping so
Speaker 6: they never Yeah, just parked up in there and walk
Speaker 6: bucks two blocks, three blocks. I ain't trying to pay
Speaker 6: sixty bucks the uber, but it's hard to get an uber,
Speaker 6: that's the thing. I'm like, man, it's hard to get
Speaker 6: it one after the game. So yeah, a little couple
Speaker 6: of whiles.
Speaker 2: Okay, So so I've seen I've seen Parsons there and
Speaker 2: did seen seen several guys there.
Speaker 4: I haven't Shock was there on game three.
Speaker 2: Well she's working and he's working. But yeah, yeah, Queen
Speaker 2: Latifoo was there, Kelsey was there.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people out there for the past
Speaker 3: couple of games.
Speaker 2: Uh, holiday weekends, so people had that.
Speaker 4: But I did.
Speaker 3: I just did wonders, like say, for the Cowboy players
Speaker 3: that want to go. Remember Romo used to go Romo
Speaker 3: all the time. Romo went different ways. Now Romo went
Speaker 3: it's free agent Romo. Then he started to go as
Speaker 3: Tony Roman. Then the next thing he was like to
Speaker 3: make a wish kid and they let him.
Speaker 6: Got the playing on the plane, go go warm up
Speaker 6: on everything else. You know you upper echelon player. When
Speaker 6: you see those pictures and you see like the football
Speaker 6: players in like the the alleyway underneath the stadium, that's
Speaker 6: how you know. You okay, big time, you you seen it?
Speaker 6: Never have I've just seen pictures.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, yea very man.
Speaker 5: You out to stop man, let you die in the current.
Speaker 5: Never seen it, but he used the bathroom down there.
Speaker 4: It exists. That's what they told me while wait in
Speaker 4: the line.
Speaker 2: Road four.
Speaker 4: But you know that's awesome, man.
Speaker 2: It's good. It's good stuff. It's good stuff. So so
Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb. I did not see cd Lamb there. Uh
Speaker 2: And obviously ced wants contract.
Speaker 3: So guys, uh amar, I'm a Saint Brown Detroit thirty million,
Speaker 3: a J Brown Philly thirty two million.
Speaker 2: So this is the ballpark of what it is for
Speaker 2: a receiver. I think we all on this show players,
Speaker 2: we all acknowledge he's gonna get he's getting thirty.
Speaker 4: At least at least start at least start at.
Speaker 2: Least thirty million.
Speaker 3: They're waiting and I was told by someone that Cede
Speaker 3: Lamb is actually just waiting to see what Georg Jefferson does.
Speaker 4: Thank you, go ahead, let's see what you got and.
Speaker 3: Then and then you play your cards from there. If
Speaker 3: I'm the Cowboys, I still don't understand. Whyn't you just
Speaker 3: go and maybe they have maybe they haven't.
Speaker 4: We don't know.
Speaker 2: Like, man, here you go to me.
Speaker 3: If I'm looking at Saint Saint Brown and Brown. Here
Speaker 3: you go, man, Let's let's get this thing done and
Speaker 3: move along here. So what are your thoughts right now?
Speaker 4: Happening like my thing is?
Speaker 5: And I'm glad you brought that up about Minnesota, because look,
Speaker 5: I'm not a conspiracy theorist at all I do. But
Speaker 5: before I make my take, I gotta say that I
Speaker 5: do feel as though there's a little bit of collusion
Speaker 5: going on in this situation because you're going to reset
Speaker 5: the market one way or another. And if I'm CD, no,
Speaker 5: I'm not anything until I find out exactly what's being
Speaker 5: paid at the top. And if you're Minnesota, you're on
Speaker 5: the other other side looking at the Cowboys the same way.
Speaker 5: Truth is, these two players are kind of linked at
Speaker 5: the hit because they came in the draft together and
Speaker 5: CD was drafted ahead of Justin Justin Jefferson. But who
Speaker 5: do you think to this point has had the better
Speaker 5: career to this point? Right now, I'm gonna say Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 5: OK I'm gonna say not a debate, okay, But if
Speaker 5: you're a CD, you're debating that because one you come
Speaker 5: into the league.
Speaker 4: Dak gets hurt.
Speaker 5: Whatever it is, DA's hurt, all of that quarterback Turmolda's
Speaker 5: hurt twice. Your numbers have been affected by it. But
Speaker 5: finally you get an opportunity to prove that you're the man,
Speaker 5: and everybody knows that you're that. All right, He is
Speaker 5: in a position right now to reset the market but
Speaker 5: also push himself over what Justin Jefferson could get. If
Speaker 5: I'm CD, I'm not looking at Justin Jefferson like everybody
Speaker 5: else saying like he should get paid more than me.
Speaker 4: I'm fighting to be that guy.
Speaker 5: Because if you're looking at if you're looking at CD
Speaker 5: like a like a stock, like I looked at all
Speaker 5: of these players, who has them more upside? Justin Jefferson
Speaker 5: right now doesn't have a quarterback. Okay, Ceedee Lamb. On
Speaker 5: the other hand, he does.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 5: Okay, So if I'm CD, I'm fighting for tooth and
Speaker 5: nail every penny I got because you're not about to
Speaker 5: say I'm one B to Justin Jefferson's one A. And
Speaker 5: that's just his perception how he perceives himself in this
Speaker 5: contract negotiation. We may not agree with that, but if
Speaker 5: you're CD Lamb, you're fighting tooth and nail to be
Speaker 5: the highest paid wide receiving the league.
Speaker 6: I got you on that one, and I'm with youing that.
Speaker 6: And if I'm cde Lamb, you said A J. Brown
Speaker 6: got thirty two.
Speaker 2: Now I'm not taking a penny less than thirty two, because.
Speaker 6: In my opinion, if I'm CD Lamb, I'm better than
Speaker 6: you know pretty much every receiver out here outside of
Speaker 6: justin Jefferson.
Speaker 2: We also know Philly, Philly, and their numbers are always interesting.
Speaker 3: Math in that book, So the math of man. Okay,
Speaker 3: well he's got to be go balloon and pay me.
Speaker 3: Every Philly does some interesting things things with numbers there.
Speaker 3: So so I feel you on that, but I and
Speaker 3: this is just my thing. Heck, I think they're really
Speaker 3: different in terms of how you how you go about
Speaker 3: the contract. I'll say this, I don't know if Minnesota
Speaker 3: get the deal. Don't Jefferson, Honestly no, I don't know that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I could see them saying, hey, man, for
Speaker 3: what you're looking for, we may not be able to
Speaker 3: make this thing happen. I could see it because it's
Speaker 3: gonna be way out there and their market and everything.
Speaker 3: Can they sustain paying them? We'll see we'll see as
Speaker 3: far as Cede Lamb goes. Ceedee Lamb has a couple
Speaker 3: of things I think you have to take into a fact,
Speaker 3: and I think it's gonna work. For the same thing
Speaker 3: with Dak Prescott being a Dallas cowboy, you're gonna be
Speaker 3: on TV more than anybody around here.
Speaker 2: You're in a place where there's no state taxes. We
Speaker 2: know Jerry pays top dollar.
Speaker 3: Okay, we know this, so so yes, they're all gonna
Speaker 3: look for top dollars because traditionally the cowboys have paid
Speaker 3: that number. You know, whether it's Traps, Frederick Zach Martin,
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott, Tank, Lawrence, Amari Cooper, Zeke, you go down
Speaker 3: the list, they have a reputation of paying it. I
Speaker 3: just think, truly, if you're a guy like Ceede Lamb,
Speaker 3: you you'll wait, you'll get a deal done. But you
Speaker 3: want to be in Texas. It's from Houston. Play at Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: This is where he's at. And the endorsement. There's things
Speaker 3: that you only get because you're here. If Dak Prescott
Speaker 3: leaves tomorrow, does seven eleven go with him? Does Tom
Speaker 3: Thumb go with him? I mean, some of these things
Speaker 3: are there. Cowboy based deals that if you go to Pittsburgh,
Speaker 3: you're not gonna it's not gonna necessarily travel with you.
Speaker 2: Maybe this sleep number bed does.
Speaker 3: But I just think for these guys, there's an other
Speaker 3: aspect that I think they have to look into that,
Speaker 3: But ultimately they're gonna get the bag because they always
Speaker 3: get the bag.
Speaker 2: From Jerry. He never tell me the last true guy
Speaker 2: who didn't get a bag, who didn't get.
Speaker 4: A good bad Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, but you're not saying taking the hometown
Speaker 6: discount though, who has Nobody really has?
Speaker 3: Nobody nobody has, Okay, especially if we're talking about an
Speaker 3: offensive weapon one of the best. Forget the defensive guys,
Speaker 3: you know, like Diggs. You tell me Cooper got paid.
Speaker 5: He tied the market, Zeke set the market, Dak set
Speaker 5: the market four years, what's sixty?
Speaker 2: I mean, Travis Frederick set the center market. Zach Martin,
Speaker 2: I mean Bryan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's tied it.
Speaker 3: The whole thing about the collusion of him and Damarius
Speaker 3: Thomas the same time that k was a five year,
Speaker 3: seventy five day boy got So I'm not really worried
Speaker 3: about that. For Lamb, you're going to get it in
Speaker 3: my opinion, just based based on what they've done.
Speaker 2: When have they not?
Speaker 5: No, And that's I mean, great point, But I don't
Speaker 5: think that today's players even acquiesced to that. What you're
Speaker 5: talking about being a Dallas cowboy, being in Texas, the taxes,
Speaker 5: all those things. You're a player, you're looking at the
Speaker 5: guys up ahead of you and saying, I don't want
Speaker 5: to be behind that guy. Like you said, Aj Brown,
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna get a penny less than what all right,
Speaker 5: And on top of that, I want to get paid
Speaker 5: more than that guy because now I'm at the table
Speaker 5: when when you play your you knew what every safety
Speaker 5: was making in the NFL, right so Ceedee Lamb is
Speaker 5: in that same He's in that same boat right now,
Speaker 5: and there's no way in hell he's gonna say, all right, well,
Speaker 5: I think justin Jefferson's best I'm I'm more of a weapon.
Speaker 4: I line up in the slot. Even though Jay jeeddis
Speaker 4: does the same thing.
Speaker 5: But from his touchdowns to his yard is to having
Speaker 5: a quarterback, dude, the future is brighter for him and
Speaker 5: he doesn't have to say, look, I want to be
Speaker 5: a cowboy because I want the Tom Thumb and all
Speaker 5: those disc you know, those those.
Speaker 4: Endorsement deals and all that.
Speaker 5: Even the same thing, even the same thing for Dak
Speaker 5: he didn't have to look sleep number don't go with
Speaker 5: me or Tom Thumb.
Speaker 4: He's generationally wealthy. He doesn't care about that. The bad
Speaker 4: the big bag.
Speaker 2: They're going to get the back. We know this because
Speaker 2: they always do. They always do.
Speaker 3: They can talk tough all they have, but when it
Speaker 3: comes to an offensive weapon.
Speaker 4: They've always you're talking about the front office, Yeah, they always.
Speaker 3: You know, Mike Lervan he got paid, George Gollaway got paid,
Speaker 3: Rocket got himself paid. I mean, you go down the
Speaker 3: list of weapons, offensive weapons. Jerry's paid the weapons and
Speaker 3: it got paid. I mean DeMarco Murray was the only
Speaker 3: guy who did not get paid. But I was sitting
Speaker 3: here and I'd always felt like DeMarco Murray had a
Speaker 3: great year, but he wasn't a great player, and he
Speaker 3: was always hurt. I never thought DeMarco was that guy.
Speaker 3: DeMarco left here. He never had a better year than
Speaker 3: he had, so that when they played correctly. But then
Speaker 3: we saw what they did with Zeke, who was a
Speaker 3: better player, they paid him, and so to me, when
Speaker 3: we talk about this, He's.
Speaker 2: Gonna get the bag.
Speaker 6: We know this.
Speaker 3: But I do believe Heckman, that part about you know
Speaker 3: where you're at, you know, like if push comes to shove,
Speaker 3: I still think Dak's.
Speaker 2: Gonna be here. I mean, look at Zeke came back.
Speaker 2: Why did he come back? Family? You like sitting here
Speaker 2: and I think the same thing. That's why I believe
Speaker 2: a deal will get done.
Speaker 3: Heckman, that is going to be Ultimately, you gonna get
Speaker 3: paid because you know you're getting paid. They don't not
Speaker 3: pay offensive weapons, so you're gonna get the bank. But
Speaker 3: I think those other factors in there to me weigh
Speaker 3: as well. And I don't know how close you guys are.
Speaker 5: I know you are, but just how many some of
Speaker 5: these players that you know when you leave and you
Speaker 5: talk to them and they talk about what they miss
Speaker 5: about the area, and they're more importantly their wives and
Speaker 5: family miss I.
Speaker 3: Think that's something that you take into account. Not that
Speaker 3: you're about to give no discounts because the ain't. None
Speaker 3: of them give no discount because Jerry pays them. I
Speaker 3: just think that matters in factors.
Speaker 5: The question for me is when when you look at
Speaker 5: the number of contracts that you have on the docket.
Speaker 5: You're gonna reset the market for sure. When it comes
Speaker 5: down to Ta Micah, it's going to be the highest
Speaker 5: paid defensive player. Then you have Treyvon Diggs on the
Speaker 5: other side. You have to run Bland's contract coming. You
Speaker 5: have a lot of contracts that Tyler Smith, he's also
Speaker 5: going to be in line for that as well. As
Speaker 5: we're talking about market setting contracts. Every We've said this before,
Speaker 5: everybody can't get paid, but everybody is getting paid.
Speaker 2: When when happened that when the go ahead? Travis Frederick
Speaker 2: Center Market said it.
Speaker 3: Zach markin Guard Market said it, Tyron took kind of
Speaker 3: a disc He took kind of a discount deal.
Speaker 4: But still, but somebody is somebody in this situation is
Speaker 4: going to have to.
Speaker 3: I mean I just when you say it, heck, I
Speaker 3: come in this. Who's not going to reset it? Who's
Speaker 3: not going to get paid? Because it's what they do,
Speaker 3: especially on an offensive standpoint, Jerry values.
Speaker 2: These offensive guys.
Speaker 3: Tell me the offensive guy outside of Tyron Smith, who
Speaker 3: didn't really get about get a record set and back.
Speaker 4: I believe the CD deserves it.
Speaker 5: I believe he earned it, and I believe that his
Speaker 5: where he's projected right now in his career, he can't
Speaker 5: do anything but go up. He's shown you he's a
Speaker 5: he's a weapon. He inside, you can move him outside.
Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy prove with the way that he put that
Speaker 5: offense together that he can feature CD. He obviously he
Speaker 5: needs more help the number two in three wide receiver position.
Speaker 5: But still Cede Lamb is a bona fide weapon. The
Speaker 5: money part of it. We wanted to take care of himself.
Speaker 5: But justin Jefferson and Ceedee Lamb are in the same
Speaker 5: boat together right now. Who gets the bigger bag is
Speaker 5: gonna come out in the next couple of weeks where
Speaker 5: it was first?
Speaker 4: Yeah, whoever was first?
Speaker 2: But he has a mancuff.
Speaker 6: Ceede Lamb has the cowboys handcuff right now because if
Speaker 6: you look at you know, his production without ceed Lamb,
Speaker 6: where is the passing of you know, production coming from first?
Speaker 2: It has to be done like it has to be done.
Speaker 2: He's getting he's getting paid. They're all they're all three
Speaker 2: are getting paid.
Speaker 5: You're just saying that no matter what the bag is
Speaker 5: gonna be, it's gonna be delivered to CD. And don't
Speaker 5: even worry about it this fifty year and the fifty
Speaker 5: year option is twenty million dollars.
Speaker 4: By the way, by the way, here's twenty mal.
Speaker 2: Dak, let's go, Dak. Prescott is the only question mark
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 3: Micah's getting his bag, ceedee, Lamb's getting his back Dak.
Speaker 3: And I say the question mark because it's just very
Speaker 3: weird because NFL teams normally don't do this to their quarterbacks.
Speaker 5: That's why I say it's weird. But the other two,
Speaker 5: they're going to get paid. They want to be there.
Speaker 5: Jerry wantson here.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 3: I had a good conversation with claireence Hill. So we're
Speaker 3: at the Gay three and he'd come from talking to
Speaker 3: Mark Cooper. You know, Claire, he said, I did ask him.
Speaker 3: He said he didn't call that the.
Speaker 4: Great article about that too much?
Speaker 3: Right, And he were talking before he was talking about
Speaker 3: I I'm gonna do it, and so he was talking
Speaker 3: about good. So when he said and he says, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I said I had, I had asked, did you call
Speaker 3: the black Kirk black Kirk cousin?
Speaker 2: Like no, I didn't. I just started laughing with him.
Speaker 4: Like only you, only you, only you do that?
Speaker 2: Bring it up guy.
Speaker 3: He wrote it up and he said, and I didn't
Speaker 3: read the article, but he said, look, no, he says,
Speaker 3: I love Dak, said my career when I was coming
Speaker 3: from the Raiders, it was it was a point in
Speaker 3: the wrong way. He says, Dak got me paid, so
Speaker 3: he'll always have a place for me, and and and
Speaker 3: so he had a good conversation with him on that.
Speaker 3: But even he talked about it, kind of found it
Speaker 3: a little bit weird because I mean, think about it,
Speaker 3: justin Herbert, your guy down the charges man, they wrote that.
Speaker 4: Check like that. He ain't did nothing compared to what
Speaker 4: Dak's been.
Speaker 5: Doing, right, you know.
Speaker 3: And even though Lamar, look, Lamar is the only person
Speaker 3: that we recently kind of said, hey man, he had
Speaker 3: to work for the bag a little bit. That's the
Speaker 3: only guy. And you saw what happened there. But even
Speaker 3: with Dak had to work for it, he more than
Speaker 3: showed he was worth the contract here. So I just
Speaker 3: don't really understand it. But here's what I do know. Heck,
Speaker 3: Jerry wandered the desert after Troy and did not like
Speaker 3: not having a franchise quarterback. So I just believe they're
Speaker 3: going to keep that situation a lot. Trey Lance, I
Speaker 3: think is also a part of it, like, hey, look,
Speaker 3: you know what, we want to make sure we've got
Speaker 3: something for ourselves here. I'm not ready to believe he's
Speaker 3: wanting to say, go give me Trey Lance right now
Speaker 3: online three, let's do I don't think they're ready to
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 6: Man, they just sold you think they're gonna go this
Speaker 6: year with Lances the backup.
Speaker 2: We got to see what he does in OTAs, and
Speaker 2: we got to see what he does in camp poopo
Speaker 2: all Cooper, but Cooper, you know.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: She does.
Speaker 3: So Look, you could keep Cooper Rush on your roster
Speaker 3: as a three or a two. Either way, he's paid,
Speaker 3: so he's paid.
Speaker 4: He's here.
Speaker 3: Your your thought process is what do you do with Lance?
Speaker 3: And and how do you get something out of him?
Speaker 3: Be it for you or maybe even a trademark or something.
Speaker 3: I don't have a That's why I just don't have
Speaker 3: a problem with him like some people do, because you
Speaker 3: were if you didn't draft, if you didn't if you
Speaker 3: didn't use your fourth round pick like you did this
Speaker 3: year for him, you were going to need to draft somebody.
Speaker 3: You know, you're going to have to especially now that
Speaker 3: the man they get ready to eighteen games. We already
Speaker 3: see what they're doing now, struggling trying to get quarterback
Speaker 3: through seventeen.
Speaker 2: You better have some folks ready to go. I don't
Speaker 2: have a problem with trade Lance. He's still a young guy.
Speaker 2: I mean he younger than Michael Pennis.
Speaker 4: Yeah right now today.
Speaker 5: And I think that's why they've already come out and
Speaker 5: said he's going to get so many reps in the
Speaker 5: preseason because you gotta show everybody else what he still
Speaker 5: has in its tank, because everybody knows what Cooper Rush has.
Speaker 5: But I think it's also the San Francisco Pretty, It's
Speaker 5: the brock Pretty effect when it comes down to quarterbacks
Speaker 5: because he basically Shanahan's just showing you, look, I could
Speaker 5: take mister irrelevant, put him in an offense, in a
Speaker 5: system and make it work. And so many coaches offensive coordinated,
Speaker 5: it's just their ego saying I can make it work
Speaker 5: with anybody. You can be a game manager and still
Speaker 5: make it to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3: He's that good, you know, Kyle, consider here and say
Speaker 3: it and do it because he's that good. But I
Speaker 3: think along the way, as a head coach, you have
Speaker 3: to figure out what is it that I need. I
Speaker 3: think Mike McCarthy's done a fantastic job. Does get enough
Speaker 3: credit for figuring out what he needs in quarterbacks from
Speaker 3: what he was able to work with with far he
Speaker 3: was there when Aaron Rodgers came through. What he's been
Speaker 3: able to take that next level, I mean to me,
Speaker 3: I'm very pressed with Cooper Rush. I thank Cooper Rush
Speaker 3: was a guy who they threw out the door and
Speaker 3: he ended up a year with the Giants and people
Speaker 3: like ah, he comes back here works with McCarthy and
Speaker 3: he does. I'm really eager to see what he can
Speaker 3: do with Trey Lance. I want to see it because
Speaker 3: I think he's done a good job. So we know
Speaker 3: what Kyle shannons. I think Sean McVay is a guy
Speaker 3: when they he was there of Washington working with Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 3: when he went out there with Jared Goff and to
Speaker 3: the point in time where he said, you know what,
Speaker 3: I can't win a super Bowl with this guy.
Speaker 2: Go get me that guy. He got Stafford.
Speaker 3: They won a super Bowl. And I just think certain
Speaker 3: coaches know how they got an understanding. I think McVeigh
Speaker 3: has an understanding I think McCarthy has an understanding. I
Speaker 3: think Andy Reid truly has. This dude went to the
Speaker 3: playoffs well Feeley or whatever. I mean, this guy is
Speaker 3: really good. Man, hey Man, Donovan go away. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go ahead, trade.
Speaker 2: You in the division. I'm still gonna go ahead and
Speaker 2: go kick. But he's really good.
Speaker 3: We've got some good coaches of quarterbacks who understand what
Speaker 3: it is he can. I think someone said, what is
Speaker 3: it that I need? And the good coaches know what
Speaker 3: they need here, and I think Mike McCarthy and I'm
Speaker 3: really eager to see what he can do to I
Speaker 3: don't think Trey Lance is as bad as people say,
Speaker 3: because that.
Speaker 2: Perfect And I'm gonna go I go back to Cooper
Speaker 2: Rush man.
Speaker 3: I mean, I remember when they brought in Cooper Rush
Speaker 3: from Central Michigan and you thought maybe there's a little something.
Speaker 3: In the first year he had a good and then
Speaker 3: and then it went downhill, and then they ended up
Speaker 3: cutting it and then they brought him back. I mean
Speaker 3: I was there that Thanksgiving day, man, no Halloween up
Speaker 3: there in Minnesota. The guy those are three hundred yards
Speaker 3: and got it done. And then when that got hurt,
Speaker 3: kept the ship to float. I mean, I'm looking at
Speaker 3: him like this is and this is not a slimmon,
Speaker 3: this is a bus driver and they're sitting up here
Speaker 3: getting production out of him that they know Mike McCarthy
Speaker 3: knew what.
Speaker 2: To do with him.
Speaker 3: I think Trey Lance is a more talented player based
Speaker 3: off the skills. We have to see it, but I
Speaker 3: am excited to see what I think he can do
Speaker 3: with Mike McCarthy. Am I ready to go put some
Speaker 3: betts on something like that? But based on what I've
Speaker 3: seen with Mike working with guys, I think he's really
Speaker 3: good at that.
Speaker 2: I think what we saw from Cooper Rush is good.
Speaker 2: Let's take a break.
Speaker 3: I want you guys to marinate on what I just
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Speaker 3: You see, they've got everything set up out here outside
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Speaker 3: Okay, So all right, guys, I just did my Trey
Speaker 3: Lance thought process and go ahead, shoot the bullet holes.
Speaker 2: Go ahead you want me to do.
Speaker 6: Because you know, the question was, you know what makes
Speaker 6: you feel like Trey Lance you know, can be that
Speaker 6: that backup guy you said McCarthy because he you know,
Speaker 6: his his work with quarterbacks. And when you say, you know,
Speaker 6: Lance is more talented, I'm not so sure about that.
Speaker 6: I think he's more athletic than than a Cooper Rush
Speaker 6: in a dack. But you know what will Yeah, you
Speaker 6: know he's athletic, but you know, is he's he accurate
Speaker 6: with the football? Can he can he read the defenses
Speaker 6: out there? Can he go from you know, his first
Speaker 6: progression to the last progression? Is he you know, can
Speaker 6: he check the ball down?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 6: These are all these things that I've yet to see
Speaker 6: from a Tree Lance. This is a guy who's played
Speaker 6: but fifteen games in college. You know, goes in North
Speaker 6: Dakota State. Nothing against them, but it's not like he
Speaker 6: was going against sec powers out here. So to me,
Speaker 6: you know, I still think there's a lot left open
Speaker 6: on the on the Trey Lance book. And is McCarthy
Speaker 6: the right guy to get him going and get that
Speaker 6: all that untapped potential he could be. You know, like
Speaker 6: you said, he worked with the forest, the Rogers, the
Speaker 6: Dacks of the world and he got them to the
Speaker 6: next level. So he could do that with Trey Lance.
Speaker 6: But to me, I just don't see it, and I
Speaker 6: don't see it coming to for Wish either. I don't
Speaker 6: see this guy going. If that going down, you know, guy,
Speaker 6: you know that doesn't happen. But if he does go down,
Speaker 6: I don't see Trey Lance going out there being four
Speaker 6: and one like a Cooper Rush was. And did Cooper
Speaker 6: have a great defense out there as well, Yes they
Speaker 6: were that year that you know, Cooper Rush stepped in
Speaker 6: and they were playing phenomenal defense, being able to get
Speaker 6: after the pass, rush return the ball, over all that
Speaker 6: great things. But I just don't see Trey Lance being
Speaker 6: able to be as productive in this system like a
Speaker 6: Cooper Rush.
Speaker 4: Was the echo.
Speaker 5: And I agree with everything that you just said, and
Speaker 5: it's Trey Lance to me, the anomaly of him and
Speaker 5: just the premature nature in which they traded for that guy.
Speaker 5: To me, I was like, why, you know, what's the
Speaker 5: reason when you already have a Cooper Rush a proven commodity,
Speaker 5: and nobody is harder on underwhelming quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: The new sprugs, okay, and so I was always on
Speaker 4: Cooper Rush.
Speaker 6: I was awful.
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, I was because that was Gary,
Speaker 5: because you had Gary Gilbert. Okay, yeah, double g all right,
Speaker 5: And he had competition, which which made you question.
Speaker 4: Why they let him go Gary Gilbert go for Cooper Rush.
Speaker 4: And it showed.
Speaker 5: It showed in those games that you're just talking about.
Speaker 5: The Halloween game against the Vikings. You saw him when
Speaker 5: Dak went down with his with his thumb, with with
Speaker 5: his thumb, and he is a proven commodity.
Speaker 4: Why did we need Trey Lance?
Speaker 5: But to me, if the pick itself was for future picks, okay,
Speaker 5: I thought you were going to use that this year,
Speaker 5: all right, Because you did. It was a fifth or
Speaker 5: fourth or whatever it was that you used on him,
Speaker 5: you needed that, uh this year. Having this guy play
Speaker 5: and take those snaps in the preseason, okay. It makes
Speaker 5: him better and also shows that Mike McCarthy can develop
Speaker 5: these guys to be I'm not gonna say the farms
Speaker 5: and things, but what I am what I'm basically saying is,
Speaker 5: thus does Trede Lance have a future in the NFL.
Speaker 4: I just that's a great area.
Speaker 5: I don't I can't walk into that soundly and say
Speaker 5: that that's who he is because he also has been
Speaker 5: often hurt.
Speaker 3: So and I go back to the conversations I have
Speaker 3: with some folks who are part of the deal, is
Speaker 3: had they not gotten Trey Lance, they would have used
Speaker 3: a twenty twenty four pick on a quarterback. That's that's
Speaker 3: what they would have done to say, Okay, we have
Speaker 3: a question about you know, what are we doing with
Speaker 3: Dak Cooper's okay, but let's we want another guy.
Speaker 2: So they used a fourth on Trey Lance, who.
Speaker 3: They had a second round grade on, who they thought
Speaker 3: was a good player coming out of school. They liked
Speaker 3: the player, so they use a four on them. The problem,
Speaker 3: and what makes so many people upset, is that you
Speaker 3: see Mac Jones, former first round pick, Justin Fields form
Speaker 3: first round pick who basically went for sixes. But if
Speaker 3: you tried to get those players at the beginning of
Speaker 3: the year where they got Treyler, you would not have
Speaker 3: gotten them for a six.
Speaker 4: That's why it's premature.
Speaker 2: And see I and for me, I didn't have a
Speaker 2: problem with it. From the standpoint, I understood the logic.
Speaker 3: Heck of hey, we got a second round pick a
Speaker 3: guy that's we're just using as a lotto ticket. Let's
Speaker 3: see what we think we can do with him with
Speaker 3: our coaching staff in our system. If we hit the
Speaker 3: lotto ticket, great, If we don't, we don't, We'll take
Speaker 3: the opportunity. No, not to say it's the same, but
Speaker 3: what did the forty nine ers do with brock Perty
Speaker 3: That was a lot of ticket.
Speaker 2: It was a scratch boom.
Speaker 3: It worked, So maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. I
Speaker 3: don't have a problem with rolling the dice on a quarterback.
Speaker 3: I remember Aaron Brooks being taken by the green Bay Packers.
Speaker 3: I watched Aaron Brooks with Virginia. I thought he was
Speaker 3: a nice player. Goes to green Bay, they developed, they
Speaker 3: move him on to the Saints, and then Mike McCarthy
Speaker 3: ended up working with Aaron Brooks, by the way, and
Speaker 3: won the first ever playoff game for the Saints. I
Speaker 3: believe Mike McCarthy can work with quarterbacks and make them
Speaker 3: better players. That's what I'm saying. I ain't sitting here
Speaker 3: to tell you, hey man, he got ready to go
Speaker 3: take that spot. No, no, could they make him a
Speaker 3: better player? Could we see them get something that Kyle
Speaker 3: Shanahan could not? And I think a part of the
Speaker 3: problem is people say, hey, man, Kyle could get no matter.
Speaker 3: This guy ain't no good. You go back and you
Speaker 3: listen to the people like Mike Lombardi and Chris Simson,
Speaker 3: They'll tell you that wasn't a dude that Shannahan even wanted.
Speaker 3: That it was Lynch and another guy who kind of
Speaker 3: pushed Trey Lance on him, that he was more of
Speaker 3: a Mac Jones kind of guy. And if it's one
Speaker 3: thing you don't want to do in football is push
Speaker 3: a player on a coach or a coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the worst players are going dan on the
Speaker 2: right man.
Speaker 5: At what point, and going back to what Church was
Speaker 5: saying about Trey Lance playing only fifteen college games and
Speaker 5: things like that, just he came into the league already
Speaker 5: an unproven commodity, and maybe that was Shanahan's apprehension about
Speaker 5: him as a quarterback. The guys that we're talking about
Speaker 5: are guys that have had that has played and has
Speaker 5: that tape playing against you know, sec Vig. Well, if
Speaker 5: you've seen what they can do rock party. I was
Speaker 5: saying it was Big twelve. He was a bally played
Speaker 5: you know, he was that guy. And so look, my
Speaker 5: thing is with this whole Trey Lance development argument, whatever
Speaker 5: it is, I always thought that we needed other things.
Speaker 5: We spent that on that, all right, we always had,
Speaker 5: we had Cooper Rush there.
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 5: I didn't understand it, and that's why I thought it
Speaker 5: was premature from that aspect. But still, if you're going
Speaker 5: to develop this guy and he's going to be your commodity,
Speaker 5: he's gonna be your second quarterback. Fine, If you're using
Speaker 5: him for trade bait in the future, I'm fine with
Speaker 5: that as well. But I'm I'm I'm right there with
Speaker 5: you when I say this guy hadn't done anything. I
Speaker 5: hadn't seen anything from so I.
Speaker 2: Don't know what he is, which is also why he
Speaker 2: was available. You know why he was available. And you
Speaker 2: don't look justin fields he showed you he played.
Speaker 3: A high look one of college, you know, one in
Speaker 3: college at the highest level, went to the playoffs, and
Speaker 3: the same thing with Mac Jones, and you know, this
Speaker 3: thing can go a lot of different ways.
Speaker 2: So I am just eager and ready to see exactly
Speaker 2: what it is that they can do?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 3: We gotta get another breaks, Jata.
Speaker 2: Get another break. Dak Prescott said he doesn't play for money.
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Speaker 11: I don't play for money, never have never cared for it,
Speaker 11: to be honest with you, Yeah, would give it up
Speaker 11: just to just to play this game. So I uh yeah,
Speaker 11: So so I allow that to the business people to
Speaker 11: to uh say, say what it's worth. What they're supposed
Speaker 11: to give a quarterback of my play, A person of
Speaker 11: my play leader of my play, I guess you can say.
Speaker 11: And for me, it's about as I said, control. I
Speaker 11: can control and handle that part and the rest will
Speaker 11: take care of itself.
Speaker 3: That is Dak Prescott. He's up for a contract extension here.
Speaker 3: So Dak saying I don't play for money. He recently
Speaker 3: his last contract was a four ye hundred.
Speaker 2: And sixty million dollars.
Speaker 4: So all right, no, it's it's not.
Speaker 6: I've never heard anyone, you know say they, you know,
Speaker 6: don't play for Maybe maybe that's why you know, I
Speaker 6: wasn't considered one of the greats because I've treated.
Speaker 5: This league it's a job. Yeah, I'm gon go ahead,
Speaker 5: clock it and I'm a clock out. So maybe that's
Speaker 5: why I will never consider the greats. And they love
Speaker 5: the game and they'll play for free, but I don't
Speaker 5: believe that.
Speaker 6: I mean, there's only maybe one or two sports where
Speaker 6: people just play because they love it, and that's golf.
Speaker 6: You're gonna go out there, You're gonna golf. You ain't
Speaker 6: getting paid for it, but you're gonna go out there,
Speaker 6: and golf consistently with the NFL many people, it takes
Speaker 6: too much out of you for you not to get
Speaker 6: something back in return.
Speaker 4: So you know, I love this sentiment.
Speaker 2: He's gonna go out there, you know, say it in
Speaker 2: front of the cameras.
Speaker 6: But come on, man, it's about to be the one
Speaker 6: of the highest paid quarterbacks and not the highest paid
Speaker 6: quarterback in the National Football League. You're not going out
Speaker 6: there for the free ski. I'm sorry, You're just not
Speaker 6: gonna do it. The game is too tough. Get your money,
Speaker 6: big dog. Hey when you hit me, hit you with
Speaker 6: a yeah, I'm lying, I'm.
Speaker 4: Doing it for the ground and yeah no, even if
Speaker 4: subconscious was saying, boy, you better stop now.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing with Dak.
Speaker 5: It comes down to the way that he was treated
Speaker 5: in those years that they, you know, put the tag
Speaker 5: on him, he put the franchise.
Speaker 4: He had to fight for his contract.
Speaker 5: He's continuing to have to fight to just say that
Speaker 5: he belongs amongst the upper echelon of quarterbacks in the NFL.
Speaker 5: Everybody knows when it comes down to Dak the perception
Speaker 5: is great regular season quarterback, not very good in the playoffs.
Speaker 5: He has to get that up from over him, he
Speaker 5: really does. He has to get that off of him,
Speaker 5: and he has to take it further and even to
Speaker 5: an NFC championship or a super Bowl. But that's where
Speaker 5: he is, and so I think when you hear sentiments
Speaker 5: and him saying stuff like that, he kind of understands that, look,
Speaker 5: this is where I am in my career.
Speaker 4: He's a jacket.
Speaker 5: But in his ninth year as a player in the
Speaker 5: long jet, the ten year of quarterbacks, I mean just
Speaker 5: thinking of Tom Brady, this guy, here's a guy that
Speaker 5: could play for another meaning Dak Prescott could play for
Speaker 5: another five six years at a high level. Okay, so look,
Speaker 5: the money part of it is going to take care
Speaker 5: of himself. But I think for him just reaching that
Speaker 5: great status, it's just all going to be culminated with
Speaker 5: him actually winning a super Bowl.
Speaker 2: That's where he has to be idealism versus realism. Ideally,
Speaker 2: you want to.
Speaker 3: Come out and say what he said, which is that
Speaker 3: you play, you play because you love it. But we
Speaker 3: also understand this is a business. People like Jerry Jones
Speaker 3: and Shad Khan and the Maras getting rich. So you're
Speaker 3: not going to get later free. And if I'm going
Speaker 3: to get CTE out of this, I'm going to get
Speaker 3: paid too. But I think there's a way I think
Speaker 3: he said the idealistic thing of what you want to say,
Speaker 3: But realistically, we know this man, this is a business,
Speaker 3: and you should come in and get what you can
Speaker 3: while you can, because we know when they are done
Speaker 3: with you, they are going to throw you out.
Speaker 2: And that's that's business.
Speaker 5: And I'm okay with Has it been your reality as
Speaker 5: a journalist that you've heard players say stuff like that
Speaker 5: as they've gotten longer in their career versus when they
Speaker 5: were younger.
Speaker 4: I don't play for the money.
Speaker 3: I look at thatak and I think you just go
Speaker 3: back to the tremendous deal they had for him, you know,
Speaker 3: before he got his make deal. I mean, he was
Speaker 3: the man was making more money on endorsements than he
Speaker 3: was as a player. But you never saw him complaining
Speaker 3: I'm going.
Speaker 2: To be he didn't do that. He just went and
Speaker 2: did his deal. So I think we can take him
Speaker 2: at the face.
Speaker 3: Value because when he was the biggest bargain in the game,
Speaker 3: he didn't get out here and complain about He just
Speaker 3: went made his own money in other places. So I
Speaker 3: just think we know he's not a he's not a
Speaker 3: greedy man. But at the same time, you have an
Speaker 3: agent you're going to get what you can.
Speaker 2: While you can't.
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