WEBVTT - Player’s Lounge: Idealism vs. Realism 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:05.160 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:14.360 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players Lounge, 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:19.040 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:25.640 Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison, and 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:27.280 newly Scrugs. 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:34.640 Here we are the Players Lounge. 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:37.520 We are here this week. Okay, we are here this week. 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:40.400 Took Memorial Day off. You took Memorial Day off, as 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.080 you should have. But the crew is back here. Danny 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:45.199 McCrae with the day off, all right. Barry Church is 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:50.720 here in the house. Scrugs. We are here at the 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:53.400 home of the Dallas Cowboys headquarters. 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:54.760 Right here in. 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:56.160 We made text. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.040 A lot of weather going on around here, a lot 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:03.600 of playoffs going on around here. 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:07.399 Last year around here yesterday MAVs game. So I had 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:09.560 this question I wanted to hit hit Bury with because 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.200 he's a former player. Heck and he his his his 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:13.920 tax bracket is different than not. 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:16.520 Hey, you ain't gonna tell me again. 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:21.720 So I see Michael Parsons at the game yesterday, Diggs 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:22.800 at the game, Barry. 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:24.039 Cooper has been at the past two games. 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:28.720 What are the ticket prices when you want to go 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:30.679 to a game, like, what is the protocol? Do you 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:32.680 have a person over there that the guy's got to me? 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:34.600 How do guys get in on that? 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:37.600 So current players were talking about Parsons and CD and Audo. 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:39.160 I'm sure they got a guy because when I played, 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:40.840 I had a guy to a you know, hey, what's 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:42.680 going on? I need these tickets here. It didn't know 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:44.720 getting hooked up, you know, for the most part about it. 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:46.920 But sometimes you don't get hooked up. And when you're 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:49.480 looking at them court side seas that I'm gonna run 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.960 you about for the Western Conference final about ten of pop. 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:56.680 Ten of pop. So I'm not sure if they're paying 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:58.080 those prices because they might have got a guy that 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.840 can't hook them up down there. But those court south seas, man, 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:03.440 they get pretty pricey out there, man, they get real pricey. 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:05.320 But nine times out of ten, they got a guy 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.000 down there that's like, hey, come through, you know, we'll 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:08.880 put you on the camera, blahlah blah blah blah, and 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:09.880 they come through and get it done. 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:14.160 Really so, so you could potentially get it for now, Yeah, 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:14.519 you're good. 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.440 Now we're talking about the upper echelon players like me. 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:19.720 I always had to face there was no there was 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:24.880 no dis somebody got they're gonna be able to walk 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.240 up in there a nine times out of ten bands. 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:28.960 Oh yeah, yeah, wow. Yeah. 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:32.600 I went to game three and I was looking down there. No, no, no, 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:34.919 I don't like basketball that much. 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:35.639 My god. 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:37.760 Yeah it was. It's real. It gets real, man. 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:39.200 Okay, so you went to game three. Yeah, I went 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:39.600 the game three. 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:40.840 Yeah, yeah, me and nobody from the game. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.959 All right, so so so on something like that. 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:46.400 You just called ticket guy, just say hey, look, I'm 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:47.680 trying to get over here, and then you just kind 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:48.919 of give a price to where you want. 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:50.840 To where you want to go or what you're willing 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.080 to wit your budget, and uh yeah, my budget. 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:53.679 Was nowhere near that that. 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:55.799 Of course I was about four rows back. 0:02:55.880 --> 0:03:03.920 But still meanwhile on the south side of town, I'm like, man, my. 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:08.040 Nose is bleeding. These three people in front of me. 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.880 You know, I would have to get past that. You 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:14.720 know how you get that little step down to the court. 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:16.280 You know, there's a there's a gap right there, and 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.200 they still they still come and deliver your drinks and. 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:21.519 You get to go down the little little you know 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:25.519 how the players yeah, First of all, we don't know 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.040 that church. You're gonna have to explain this to Yeah, 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.160 you know you go down these steps like no, we don't. 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:34.760 It's like we don't know where is that. 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:36.080 You know, there's like a little steps. 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:37.960 So you got court side, you know, two three rolls 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:39.880 right here and there, just a little like one little step. 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.440 Okay, all right, So so I go to these games 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:46.800 all the time. I haven't understand. So when you're coming in, 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:49.120 do you what you're doing? Like that? 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:50.640 Are you coming in from the bottom? 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:52.520 There was the bathroom down here though. 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:54.560 Okay, So like if I'm going to the bad so 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.520 I'm right there, I'm not going all the way up 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:58.200 the steps to you. I go down the little where 0:03:58.200 --> 0:03:58.840 the players. 0:03:58.600 --> 0:03:59.920 Come in a little right there. 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:01.960 I go down the step and you can down yeah, yeah, 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:02.560 down the bows there. 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:03.560 Where do you park? 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:04.200 Oh? 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:04.680 I park? 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.120 So there's a you never heard of hardwood it's like 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:09.680 a little hardwood bar and there's on top of it 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.800 it's a little parking spot. I used residential shopping so 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.080 they never Yeah, just parked up in there and walk 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.880 bucks two blocks, three blocks. I ain't trying to pay 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:22.680 sixty bucks the uber, but it's hard to get an uber, 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:25.880 that's the thing. I'm like, man, it's hard to get 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:27.839 it one after the game. So yeah, a little couple 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:28.160 of whiles. 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:30.960 Okay, So so I've seen I've seen Parsons there and 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:32.760 did seen seen several guys there. 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:34.920 I haven't Shock was there on game three. 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:39.560 Well she's working and he's working. But yeah, yeah, Queen 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:41.400 Latifoo was there, Kelsey was there. 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.400 There's a lot of people out there for the past 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:46.000 couple of games. 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.200 Uh, holiday weekends, so people had that. 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:49.560 But I did. 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:51.919 I just did wonders, like say, for the Cowboy players 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.320 that want to go. Remember Romo used to go Romo 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.200 all the time. Romo went different ways. Now Romo went 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.600 it's free agent Romo. Then he started to go as 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.040 Tony Roman. Then the next thing he was like to 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:04.280 make a wish kid and they let him. 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:10.120 Got the playing on the plane, go go warm up 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.440 on everything else. You know you upper echelon player. When 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:14.479 you see those pictures and you see like the football 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:18.080 players in like the the alleyway underneath the stadium, that's 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.600 how you know. You okay, big time, you you seen it? 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:23.479 Never have I've just seen pictures. 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:27.600 Yeah, Okay, yea very man. 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:31.640 You out to stop man, let you die in the current. 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.800 Never seen it, but he used the bathroom down there. 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.280 It exists. That's what they told me while wait in 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:38.120 the line. 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:40.479 Road four. 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.200 But you know that's awesome, man. 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:46.040 It's good. It's good stuff. It's good stuff. So so 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.360 Ceedee Lamb. I did not see cd Lamb there. Uh 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:50.120 And obviously ced wants contract. 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:54.640 So guys, uh amar, I'm a Saint Brown Detroit thirty million, 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:56.720 a J Brown Philly thirty two million. 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.200 So this is the ballpark of what it is for 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:02.320 a receiver. I think we all on this show players, 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.200 we all acknowledge he's gonna get he's getting thirty. 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.920 At least at least start at least start at. 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:09.279 Least thirty million. 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:15.400 They're waiting and I was told by someone that Cede 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.000 Lamb is actually just waiting to see what Georg Jefferson does. 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:20.279 Thank you, go ahead, let's see what you got and. 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.680 Then and then you play your cards from there. If 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:25.440 I'm the Cowboys, I still don't understand. Whyn't you just 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.160 go and maybe they have maybe they haven't. 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:27.600 We don't know. 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.040 Like, man, here you go to me. 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:33.280 If I'm looking at Saint Saint Brown and Brown. Here 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:36.440 you go, man, Let's let's get this thing done and 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.560 move along here. So what are your thoughts right now? 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:40.880 Happening like my thing is? 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.680 And I'm glad you brought that up about Minnesota, because look, 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:48.200 I'm not a conspiracy theorist at all I do. But 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.120 before I make my take, I gotta say that I 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:53.640 do feel as though there's a little bit of collusion 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.200 going on in this situation because you're going to reset 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:59.440 the market one way or another. And if I'm CD, no, 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:03.320 I'm not anything until I find out exactly what's being 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.840 paid at the top. And if you're Minnesota, you're on 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:08.520 the other other side looking at the Cowboys the same way. 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.280 Truth is, these two players are kind of linked at 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.360 the hit because they came in the draft together and 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:18.840 CD was drafted ahead of Justin Justin Jefferson. But who 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.040 do you think to this point has had the better 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:25.360 career to this point? Right now, I'm gonna say Justin Jefferson. 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.800 OK I'm gonna say not a debate, okay, But if 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:33.520 you're a CD, you're debating that because one you come 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:34.400 into the league. 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:35.080 Dak gets hurt. 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:39.280 Whatever it is, DA's hurt, all of that quarterback Turmolda's 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.840 hurt twice. Your numbers have been affected by it. But 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:44.120 finally you get an opportunity to prove that you're the man, 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:48.320 and everybody knows that you're that. All right, He is 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:51.880 in a position right now to reset the market but 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:58.040 also push himself over what Justin Jefferson could get. If 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.840 I'm CD, I'm not looking at Justin Jefferson like everybody 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:02.480 else saying like he should get paid more than me. 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.040 I'm fighting to be that guy. 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.600 Because if you're looking at if you're looking at CD 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:09.680 like a like a stock, like I looked at all 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:13.080 of these players, who has them more upside? Justin Jefferson 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:16.720 right now doesn't have a quarterback. Okay, Ceedee Lamb. On 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:17.800 the other hand, he does. 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:19.840 That's true. 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.840 Okay, So if I'm CD, I'm fighting for tooth and 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.160 nail every penny I got because you're not about to 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:28.520 say I'm one B to Justin Jefferson's one A. And 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:32.360 that's just his perception how he perceives himself in this 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.560 contract negotiation. We may not agree with that, but if 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.599 you're CD Lamb, you're fighting tooth and nail to be 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:39.160 the highest paid wide receiving the league. 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.120 I got you on that one, and I'm with youing that. 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.200 And if I'm cde Lamb, you said A J. Brown 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:43.800 got thirty two. 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:48.520 Now I'm not taking a penny less than thirty two, because. 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.560 In my opinion, if I'm CD Lamb, I'm better than 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:52.839 you know pretty much every receiver out here outside of 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:53.520 justin Jefferson. 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:57.160 We also know Philly, Philly, and their numbers are always interesting. 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:02.920 Math in that book, So the math of man. Okay, 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:04.240 well he's got to be go balloon and pay me. 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.000 Every Philly does some interesting things things with numbers there. 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.920 So so I feel you on that, but I and 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.040 this is just my thing. Heck, I think they're really 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.520 different in terms of how you how you go about 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.280 the contract. I'll say this, I don't know if Minnesota 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:21.439 get the deal. Don't Jefferson, Honestly no, I don't know that. 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.520 I mean, I could see them saying, hey, man, for 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.719 what you're looking for, we may not be able to 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:29.760 make this thing happen. I could see it because it's 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.640 gonna be way out there and their market and everything. 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.800 Can they sustain paying them? We'll see we'll see as 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.920 far as Cede Lamb goes. Ceedee Lamb has a couple 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:40.600 of things I think you have to take into a fact, 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:42.040 and I think it's gonna work. For the same thing 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:45.400 with Dak Prescott being a Dallas cowboy, you're gonna be 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:46.720 on TV more than anybody around here. 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.000 You're in a place where there's no state taxes. We 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:50.440 know Jerry pays top dollar. 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.200 Okay, we know this, so so yes, they're all gonna 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.720 look for top dollars because traditionally the cowboys have paid 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.960 that number. You know, whether it's Traps, Frederick Zach Martin, 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.760 Dak Prescott, Tank, Lawrence, Amari Cooper, Zeke, you go down 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.640 the list, they have a reputation of paying it. I 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:07.760 just think, truly, if you're a guy like Ceede Lamb, 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.240 you you'll wait, you'll get a deal done. But you 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:15.080 want to be in Texas. It's from Houston. Play at Oklahoma. 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:17.960 This is where he's at. And the endorsement. There's things 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.960 that you only get because you're here. If Dak Prescott 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:24.079 leaves tomorrow, does seven eleven go with him? Does Tom 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.439 Thumb go with him? I mean, some of these things 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:32.160 are there. Cowboy based deals that if you go to Pittsburgh, 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:34.559 you're not gonna it's not gonna necessarily travel with you. 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:36.480 Maybe this sleep number bed does. 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:38.679 But I just think for these guys, there's an other 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:40.559 aspect that I think they have to look into that, 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:42.839 But ultimately they're gonna get the bag because they always 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:43.240 get the bag. 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:46.400 From Jerry. He never tell me the last true guy 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.160 who didn't get a bag, who didn't get. 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:49.760 A good bad Yeah, that's true. 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.199 I mean, yeah, but you're not saying taking the hometown 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.520 discount though, who has Nobody really has? 0:10:56.720 --> 0:11:01.600 Nobody nobody has, Okay, especially if we're talking about an 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:05.200 offensive weapon one of the best. Forget the defensive guys, 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:09.439 you know, like Diggs. You tell me Cooper got paid. 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.040 He tied the market, Zeke set the market, Dak set 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:15.560 the market four years, what's sixty? 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:20.840 I mean, Travis Frederick set the center market. Zach Martin, 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:22.040 I mean Bryan. 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:24.199 Yeah, that's tied it. 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:26.760 The whole thing about the collusion of him and Damarius 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:28.360 Thomas the same time that k was a five year, 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:31.360 seventy five day boy got So I'm not really worried 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:34.079 about that. For Lamb, you're going to get it in 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.920 my opinion, just based based on what they've done. 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:38.120 When have they not? 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.800 No, And that's I mean, great point, But I don't 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:45.319 think that today's players even acquiesced to that. What you're 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:48.840 talking about being a Dallas cowboy, being in Texas, the taxes, 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.480 all those things. You're a player, you're looking at the 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:53.760 guys up ahead of you and saying, I don't want 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:55.680 to be behind that guy. Like you said, Aj Brown, 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:57.960 I'm not gonna get a penny less than what all right, 0:11:58.040 --> 0:11:59.960 And on top of that, I want to get paid 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.520 more than that guy because now I'm at the table 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:05.760 when when you play your you knew what every safety 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:09.640 was making in the NFL, right so Ceedee Lamb is 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.080 in that same He's in that same boat right now, 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.880 and there's no way in hell he's gonna say, all right, well, 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.640 I think justin Jefferson's best I'm I'm more of a weapon. 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:19.400 I line up in the slot. Even though Jay jeeddis 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:20.079 does the same thing. 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.360 But from his touchdowns to his yard is to having 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.559 a quarterback, dude, the future is brighter for him and 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:28.360 he doesn't have to say, look, I want to be 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:31.120 a cowboy because I want the Tom Thumb and all 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:32.920 those disc you know, those those. 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:34.439 Endorsement deals and all that. 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.839 Even the same thing, even the same thing for Dak 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.240 he didn't have to look sleep number don't go with 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:40.160 me or Tom Thumb. 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:44.720 He's generationally wealthy. He doesn't care about that. The bad 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:46.080 the big bag. 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.040 They're going to get the back. We know this because 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:49.480 they always do. They always do. 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:51.559 They can talk tough all they have, but when it 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:53.840 comes to an offensive weapon. 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:57.120 They've always you're talking about the front office, Yeah, they always. 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:02.240 You know, Mike Lervan he got paid, George Gollaway got paid, 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:04.679 Rocket got himself paid. I mean, you go down the 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:08.679 list of weapons, offensive weapons. Jerry's paid the weapons and 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.679 it got paid. I mean DeMarco Murray was the only 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:16.079 guy who did not get paid. But I was sitting 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.439 here and I'd always felt like DeMarco Murray had a 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.480 great year, but he wasn't a great player, and he 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.560 was always hurt. I never thought DeMarco was that guy. 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.400 DeMarco left here. He never had a better year than 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.800 he had, so that when they played correctly. But then 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.240 we saw what they did with Zeke, who was a 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.360 better player, they paid him, and so to me, when 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.400 we talk about this, He's. 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:38.000 Gonna get the bag. 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:38.640 We know this. 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:42.360 But I do believe Heckman, that part about you know 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:47.520 where you're at, you know, like if push comes to shove, 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:48.640 I still think Dak's. 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.439 Gonna be here. I mean, look at Zeke came back. 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.800 Why did he come back? Family? You like sitting here 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.000 and I think the same thing. That's why I believe 0:13:58.040 --> 0:13:58.880 a deal will get done. 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.240 Heckman, that is going to be Ultimately, you gonna get 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:04.640 paid because you know you're getting paid. They don't not 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.599 pay offensive weapons, so you're gonna get the bank. But 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:09.800 I think those other factors in there to me weigh 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.440 as well. And I don't know how close you guys are. 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:15.079 I know you are, but just how many some of 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.040 these players that you know when you leave and you 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.800 talk to them and they talk about what they miss 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.720 about the area, and they're more importantly their wives and 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:25.520 family miss I. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.440 Think that's something that you take into account. Not that 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.120 you're about to give no discounts because the ain't. None 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:34.400 of them give no discount because Jerry pays them. I 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:36.200 just think that matters in factors. 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:39.000 The question for me is when when you look at 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:41.280 the number of contracts that you have on the docket. 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.200 You're gonna reset the market for sure. When it comes 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.440 down to Ta Micah, it's going to be the highest 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:49.360 paid defensive player. Then you have Treyvon Diggs on the 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.720 other side. You have to run Bland's contract coming. You 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.640 have a lot of contracts that Tyler Smith, he's also 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:56.320 going to be in line for that as well. As 0:14:56.720 --> 0:15:01.640 we're talking about market setting contracts. Every We've said this before, 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:05.160 everybody can't get paid, but everybody is getting paid. 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:09.120 When when happened that when the go ahead? Travis Frederick 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:10.200 Center Market said it. 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.600 Zach markin Guard Market said it, Tyron took kind of 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:16.480 a disc He took kind of a discount deal. 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.840 But still, but somebody is somebody in this situation is 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:20.360 going to have to. 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.240 I mean I just when you say it, heck, I 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:26.280 come in this. Who's not going to reset it? Who's 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.240 not going to get paid? Because it's what they do, 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.720 especially on an offensive standpoint, Jerry values. 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:34.400 These offensive guys. 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:38.080 Tell me the offensive guy outside of Tyron Smith, who 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:40.240 didn't really get about get a record set and back. 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:42.120 I believe the CD deserves it. 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:44.840 I believe he earned it, and I believe that his 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.920 where he's projected right now in his career, he can't 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.240 do anything but go up. He's shown you he's a 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:53.000 he's a weapon. He inside, you can move him outside. 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.000 Mike McCarthy prove with the way that he put that 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:58.280 offense together that he can feature CD. He obviously he 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:01.160 needs more help the number two in three wide receiver position. 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:04.280 But still Cede Lamb is a bona fide weapon. The 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.640 money part of it. We wanted to take care of himself. 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.200 But justin Jefferson and Ceedee Lamb are in the same 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:13.040 boat together right now. Who gets the bigger bag is 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.120 gonna come out in the next couple of weeks where 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:15.480 it was first? 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:16.480 Yeah, whoever was first? 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:18.360 But he has a mancuff. 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.680 Ceede Lamb has the cowboys handcuff right now because if 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.160 you look at you know, his production without ceed Lamb, 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:26.120 where is the passing of you know, production coming from first? 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.520 It has to be done like it has to be done. 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:32.040 He's getting he's getting paid. They're all they're all three 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:32.840 are getting paid. 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:35.480 You're just saying that no matter what the bag is 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:39.320 gonna be, it's gonna be delivered to CD. And don't 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:41.440 even worry about it this fifty year and the fifty 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:42.800 year option is twenty million dollars. 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:47.120 By the way, by the way, here's twenty mal. 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:52.800 Dak, let's go, Dak. Prescott is the only question mark 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:53.080 I have. 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:57.640 Micah's getting his bag, ceedee, Lamb's getting his back Dak. 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:00.640 And I say the question mark because it's just very 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:04.879 weird because NFL teams normally don't do this to their quarterbacks. 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:06.920 That's why I say it's weird. But the other two, 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.400 they're going to get paid. They want to be there. 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:11.600 Jerry wantson here. 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:11.959 Now. 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.480 I had a good conversation with claireence Hill. So we're 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:17.080 at the Gay three and he'd come from talking to 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.080 Mark Cooper. You know, Claire, he said, I did ask him. 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:21.879 He said he didn't call that the. 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:23.600 Great article about that too much? 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.480 Right, And he were talking before he was talking about 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.359 I I'm gonna do it, and so he was talking 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:31.280 about good. So when he said and he says, like, yeah, 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:33.439 I said I had, I had asked, did you call 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:34.840 the black Kirk black Kirk cousin? 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:36.840 Like no, I didn't. I just started laughing with him. 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:40.280 Like only you, only you, only you do that? 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:41.680 Bring it up guy. 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:45.280 He wrote it up and he said, and I didn't 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.840 read the article, but he said, look, no, he says, 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:49.960 I love Dak, said my career when I was coming 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.359 from the Raiders, it was it was a point in 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.320 the wrong way. He says, Dak got me paid, so 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:57.920 he'll always have a place for me, and and and 0:17:58.000 --> 0:17:59.720 so he had a good conversation with him on that. 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:02.600 But even he talked about it, kind of found it 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:04.240 a little bit weird because I mean, think about it, 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.520 justin Herbert, your guy down the charges man, they wrote that. 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:10.840 Check like that. He ain't did nothing compared to what 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:11.400 Dak's been. 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:12.040 Doing, right, you know. 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:16.080 And even though Lamar, look, Lamar is the only person 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.479 that we recently kind of said, hey man, he had 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:19.920 to work for the bag a little bit. That's the 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.760 only guy. And you saw what happened there. But even 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:24.840 with Dak had to work for it, he more than 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.000 showed he was worth the contract here. So I just 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.560 don't really understand it. But here's what I do know. Heck, 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:37.399 Jerry wandered the desert after Troy and did not like 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:41.440 not having a franchise quarterback. So I just believe they're 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.159 going to keep that situation a lot. Trey Lance, I 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:45.840 think is also a part of it, like, hey, look, 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:47.919 you know what, we want to make sure we've got 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:52.600 something for ourselves here. I'm not ready to believe he's 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.199 wanting to say, go give me Trey Lance right now 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.200 online three, let's do I don't think they're ready to 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:57.480 do that. 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:00.159 Man, they just sold you think they're gonna go this 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:01.679 year with Lances the backup. 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.280 We got to see what he does in OTAs, and 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:08.560 we got to see what he does in camp poopo 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:09.919 all Cooper, but Cooper, you know. 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:12.439 You know. 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:15.680 She does. 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:19.240 So Look, you could keep Cooper Rush on your roster 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:21.840 as a three or a two. Either way, he's paid, 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:23.320 so he's paid. 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:23.800 He's here. 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:28.040 Your your thought process is what do you do with Lance? 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:31.719 And and how do you get something out of him? 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.600 Be it for you or maybe even a trademark or something. 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.159 I don't have a That's why I just don't have 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:42.320 a problem with him like some people do, because you 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:44.560 were if you didn't draft, if you didn't if you 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:46.600 didn't use your fourth round pick like you did this 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:48.320 year for him, you were going to need to draft somebody. 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:50.639 You know, you're going to have to especially now that 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:52.720 the man they get ready to eighteen games. We already 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:55.160 see what they're doing now, struggling trying to get quarterback 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:55.760 through seventeen. 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.560 You better have some folks ready to go. I don't 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:00.960 have a problem with trade Lance. He's still a young guy. 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:02.840 I mean he younger than Michael Pennis. 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:04.399 Yeah right now today. 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:06.159 And I think that's why they've already come out and 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:07.680 said he's going to get so many reps in the 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.720 preseason because you gotta show everybody else what he still 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.439 has in its tank, because everybody knows what Cooper Rush has. 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:17.480 But I think it's also the San Francisco Pretty, It's 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.680 the brock Pretty effect when it comes down to quarterbacks 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:22.360 because he basically Shanahan's just showing you, look, I could 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:25.119 take mister irrelevant, put him in an offense, in a 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:28.480 system and make it work. And so many coaches offensive coordinated, 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:30.880 it's just their ego saying I can make it work 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:35.399 with anybody. You can be a game manager and still 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:36.720 make it to the super Bowl. 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:40.640 He's that good, you know, Kyle, consider here and say 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:42.359 it and do it because he's that good. But I 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:44.240 think along the way, as a head coach, you have 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:46.720 to figure out what is it that I need. I 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:49.159 think Mike McCarthy's done a fantastic job. Does get enough 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:52.000 credit for figuring out what he needs in quarterbacks from 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.200 what he was able to work with with far he 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:57.320 was there when Aaron Rodgers came through. What he's been 0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:59.159 able to take that next level, I mean to me, 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:02.000 I'm very pressed with Cooper Rush. I thank Cooper Rush 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.200 was a guy who they threw out the door and 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:05.880 he ended up a year with the Giants and people 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:07.800 like ah, he comes back here works with McCarthy and 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:10.399 he does. I'm really eager to see what he can 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:14.440 do with Trey Lance. I want to see it because 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:16.240 I think he's done a good job. So we know 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:19.120 what Kyle shannons. I think Sean McVay is a guy 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:22.040 when they he was there of Washington working with Kirk Cousins, 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:24.440 when he went out there with Jared Goff and to 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:25.760 the point in time where he said, you know what, 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:27.320 I can't win a super Bowl with this guy. 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:29.680 Go get me that guy. He got Stafford. 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.800 They won a super Bowl. And I just think certain 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:36.359 coaches know how they got an understanding. I think McVeigh 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:38.440 has an understanding I think McCarthy has an understanding. I 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:41.520 think Andy Reid truly has. This dude went to the 0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:44.159 playoffs well Feeley or whatever. I mean, this guy is 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:47.359 really good. Man, hey Man, Donovan go away. I'm gonna 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:48.160 go ahead, trade. 0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:49.960 You in the division. I'm still gonna go ahead and 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:52.400 go kick. But he's really good. 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:54.920 We've got some good coaches of quarterbacks who understand what 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:56.760 it is he can. I think someone said, what is 0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:59.520 it that I need? And the good coaches know what 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:01.960 they need here, and I think Mike McCarthy and I'm 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:03.280 really eager to see what he can do to I 0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:05.280 don't think Trey Lance is as bad as people say, 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:07.879 because that. 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:15.120 Perfect And I'm gonna go I go back to Cooper 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:15.639 Rush man. 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:17.680 I mean, I remember when they brought in Cooper Rush 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:20.800 from Central Michigan and you thought maybe there's a little something. 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:22.719 In the first year he had a good and then 0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:24.520 and then it went downhill, and then they ended up 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:26.520 cutting it and then they brought him back. I mean 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:30.240 I was there that Thanksgiving day, man, no Halloween up 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:32.320 there in Minnesota. The guy those are three hundred yards 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:35.440 and got it done. And then when that got hurt, 0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:38.159 kept the ship to float. I mean, I'm looking at 0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:41.960 him like this is and this is not a slimmon, 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:44.480 this is a bus driver and they're sitting up here 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:48.200 getting production out of him that they know Mike McCarthy 0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:48.639 knew what. 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:49.320 To do with him. 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:53.760 I think Trey Lance is a more talented player based 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:56.680 off the skills. We have to see it, but I 0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:59.119 am excited to see what I think he can do 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:02.080 with Mike McCarthy. Am I ready to go put some 0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:04.680 betts on something like that? But based on what I've 0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:07.879 seen with Mike working with guys, I think he's really 0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:08.480 good at that. 0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:10.919 I think what we saw from Cooper Rush is good. 0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:11.720 Let's take a break. 0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:13.399 I want you guys to marinate on what I just 0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:19.159 said and c ready come ready to bullet holes in. 0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:22.400 Everything's right. 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Man, 0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:58.040 What do voluntary be? 0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:00.320 You better beat it. 0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:04.280 If you ain't one of them CDs or the micas 0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:05.959 he better be in there. 0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:08.160 Okay, So all right, guys, I just did my Trey 0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:10.440 Lance thought process and go ahead, shoot the bullet holes. 0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:11.520 Go ahead you want me to do. 0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:16.760 Because you know, the question was, you know what makes 0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.680 you feel like Trey Lance you know, can be that 0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.000 that backup guy you said McCarthy because he you know, 0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:24.520 his his work with quarterbacks. And when you say, you know, 0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:27.600 Lance is more talented, I'm not so sure about that. 0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.520 I think he's more athletic than than a Cooper Rush 0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:33.280 in a dack. But you know what will Yeah, you 0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:35.959 know he's athletic, but you know, is he's he accurate 0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:38.280 with the football? Can he can he read the defenses 0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:40.280 out there? Can he go from you know, his first 0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:42.520 progression to the last progression? Is he you know, can 0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:43.520 he check the ball down? 0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:43.639 Like? 0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:45.920 These are all these things that I've yet to see 0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:48.440 from a Tree Lance. This is a guy who's played 0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:51.919 but fifteen games in college. You know, goes in North 0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:54.240 Dakota State. Nothing against them, but it's not like he 0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:57.119 was going against sec powers out here. So to me, 0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:59.520 you know, I still think there's a lot left open 0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:02.000 on the on the Trey Lance book. And is McCarthy 0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:03.600 the right guy to get him going and get that 0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:06.040 all that untapped potential he could be. You know, like 0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:08.000 you said, he worked with the forest, the Rogers, the 0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:09.680 Dacks of the world and he got them to the 0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:11.960 next level. So he could do that with Trey Lance. 0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:14.680 But to me, I just don't see it, and I 0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:16.840 don't see it coming to for Wish either. I don't 0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:20.040 see this guy going. If that going down, you know, guy, 0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:22.160 you know that doesn't happen. But if he does go down, 0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:24.040 I don't see Trey Lance going out there being four 0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.440 and one like a Cooper Rush was. And did Cooper 0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:28.399 have a great defense out there as well, Yes they 0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:30.119 were that year that you know, Cooper Rush stepped in 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.159 and they were playing phenomenal defense, being able to get 0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:33.720 after the pass, rush return the ball, over all that 0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:36.720 great things. But I just don't see Trey Lance being 0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:39.720 able to be as productive in this system like a 0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:40.520 Cooper Rush. 0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:41.120 Was the echo. 0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:43.200 And I agree with everything that you just said, and 0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:45.720 it's Trey Lance to me, the anomaly of him and 0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:49.920 just the premature nature in which they traded for that guy. 0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:52.320 To me, I was like, why, you know, what's the 0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:55.560 reason when you already have a Cooper Rush a proven commodity, 0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:59.520 and nobody is harder on underwhelming quarterbacks. 0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:06.000 The new sprugs, okay, and so I was always on 0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:06.600 Cooper Rush. 0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:07.280 I was awful. 0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:09.560 I was like, yeah, I was because that was Gary, 0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:13.479 because you had Gary Gilbert. Okay, yeah, double g all right, 0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:16.800 And he had competition, which which made you question. 0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:20.240 Why they let him go Gary Gilbert go for Cooper Rush. 0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:21.080 And it showed. 0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:22.880 It showed in those games that you're just talking about. 0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:25.120 The Halloween game against the Vikings. You saw him when 0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:27.320 Dak went down with his with his thumb, with with 0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:30.600 his thumb, and he is a proven commodity. 0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:32.480 Why did we need Trey Lance? 0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:36.360 But to me, if the pick itself was for future picks, okay, 0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:37.760 I thought you were going to use that this year, 0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:39.480 all right, Because you did. It was a fifth or 0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:41.640 fourth or whatever it was that you used on him, 0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:45.160 you needed that, uh this year. Having this guy play 0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:48.240 and take those snaps in the preseason, okay. It makes 0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:51.680 him better and also shows that Mike McCarthy can develop 0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:55.800 these guys to be I'm not gonna say the farms 0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:59.160 and things, but what I am what I'm basically saying is, 0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:02.360 thus does Trede Lance have a future in the NFL. 0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:04.560 I just that's a great area. 0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:06.800 I don't I can't walk into that soundly and say 0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:09.239 that that's who he is because he also has been 0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:09.840 often hurt. 0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:12.640 So and I go back to the conversations I have 0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.880 with some folks who are part of the deal, is 0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:19.640 had they not gotten Trey Lance, they would have used 0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:22.520 a twenty twenty four pick on a quarterback. That's that's 0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:25.240 what they would have done to say, Okay, we have 0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:28.000 a question about you know, what are we doing with 0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:31.560 Dak Cooper's okay, but let's we want another guy. 0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:35.480 So they used a fourth on Trey Lance, who. 0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:38.640 They had a second round grade on, who they thought 0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:41.840 was a good player coming out of school. They liked 0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:45.440 the player, so they use a four on them. The problem, 0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:48.960 and what makes so many people upset, is that you 0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:51.840 see Mac Jones, former first round pick, Justin Fields form 0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:55.760 first round pick who basically went for sixes. But if 0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:58.760 you tried to get those players at the beginning of 0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.040 the year where they got Treyler, you would not have 0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:01.960 gotten them for a six. 0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:02.840 That's why it's premature. 0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:06.280 And see I and for me, I didn't have a 0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:09.240 problem with it. From the standpoint, I understood the logic. 0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:12.280 Heck of hey, we got a second round pick a 0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:14.720 guy that's we're just using as a lotto ticket. Let's 0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:17.080 see what we think we can do with him with 0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:20.120 our coaching staff in our system. If we hit the 0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:23.480 lotto ticket, great, If we don't, we don't, We'll take 0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:26.640 the opportunity. No, not to say it's the same, but 0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:29.000 what did the forty nine ers do with brock Perty 0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:30.120 That was a lot of ticket. 0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:31.480 It was a scratch boom. 0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:35.120 It worked, So maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. I 0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:38.160 don't have a problem with rolling the dice on a quarterback. 0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:42.440 I remember Aaron Brooks being taken by the green Bay Packers. 0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:44.680 I watched Aaron Brooks with Virginia. I thought he was 0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:47.680 a nice player. Goes to green Bay, they developed, they 0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:49.320 move him on to the Saints, and then Mike McCarthy 0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:51.280 ended up working with Aaron Brooks, by the way, and 0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:53.840 won the first ever playoff game for the Saints. I 0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:57.640 believe Mike McCarthy can work with quarterbacks and make them 0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:01.040 better players. That's what I'm saying. I ain't sitting here 0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:02.200 to tell you, hey man, he got ready to go 0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:04.760 take that spot. No, no, could they make him a 0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.640 better player? Could we see them get something that Kyle 0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:10.080 Shanahan could not? And I think a part of the 0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.160 problem is people say, hey, man, Kyle could get no matter. 0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:14.320 This guy ain't no good. You go back and you 0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:17.160 listen to the people like Mike Lombardi and Chris Simson, 0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:21.040 They'll tell you that wasn't a dude that Shannahan even wanted. 0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:23.480 That it was Lynch and another guy who kind of 0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:25.080 pushed Trey Lance on him, that he was more of 0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:27.800 a Mac Jones kind of guy. And if it's one 0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:29.920 thing you don't want to do in football is push 0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:32.440 a player on a coach or a coach. 0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:36.080 Yeah, that's the worst players are going dan on the 0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:37.080 right man. 0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:40.200 At what point, and going back to what Church was 0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:45.400 saying about Trey Lance playing only fifteen college games and 0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:47.760 things like that, just he came into the league already 0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:51.560 an unproven commodity, and maybe that was Shanahan's apprehension about 0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:54.080 him as a quarterback. The guys that we're talking about 0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.960 are guys that have had that has played and has 0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:00.239 that tape playing against you know, sec Vig. Well, if 0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:04.000 you've seen what they can do rock party. I was 0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:07.000 saying it was Big twelve. He was a bally played 0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:10.320 you know, he was that guy. And so look, my 0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:13.200 thing is with this whole Trey Lance development argument, whatever 0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:15.240 it is, I always thought that we needed other things. 0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:17.440 We spent that on that, all right, we always had, 0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:18.560 we had Cooper Rush there. 0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:19.240 I didn't. 0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:20.920 I didn't understand it, and that's why I thought it 0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:24.200 was premature from that aspect. But still, if you're going 0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:26.760 to develop this guy and he's going to be your commodity, 0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:30.480 he's gonna be your second quarterback. Fine, If you're using 0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:32.680 him for trade bait in the future, I'm fine with 0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:35.240 that as well. 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For more information on this free event, visit 0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:42.080 at and T dot com slash Juneteenth Listen. 0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:44.840 I don't play for money, never have never cared for it, 0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:49.680 to be honest with you, Yeah, would give it up 0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:54.719 just to just to play this game. So I uh yeah, 0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:57.880 So so I allow that to the business people to 0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:02.720 to uh say, say what it's worth. What they're supposed 0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.080 to give a quarterback of my play, A person of 0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:07.040 my play leader of my play, I guess you can say. 0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:08.880 And for me, it's about as I said, control. I 0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:11.560 can control and handle that part and the rest will 0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:12.240 take care of itself. 0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:19.080 That is Dak Prescott. He's up for a contract extension here. 0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:23.480 So Dak saying I don't play for money. He recently 0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:25.920 his last contract was a four ye hundred. 0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:26.479 And sixty million dollars. 0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:31.480 So all right, no, it's it's not. 0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:33.920 I've never heard anyone, you know say they, you know, 0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:35.600 don't play for Maybe maybe that's why you know, I 0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:37.960 wasn't considered one of the greats because I've treated. 0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:43.160 This league it's a job. Yeah, I'm gon go ahead, 0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.000 clock it and I'm a clock out. So maybe that's 0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:47.160 why I will never consider the greats. And they love 0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:49.600 the game and they'll play for free, but I don't 0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:49.960 believe that. 0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:52.120 I mean, there's only maybe one or two sports where 0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:54.640 people just play because they love it, and that's golf. 0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:56.160 You're gonna go out there, You're gonna golf. You ain't 0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:57.480 getting paid for it, but you're gonna go out there, 0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:00.839 and golf consistently with the NFL many people, it takes 0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:02.920 too much out of you for you not to get 0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:03.960 something back in return. 0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:05.520 So you know, I love this sentiment. 0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:06.920 He's gonna go out there, you know, say it in 0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:07.680 front of the cameras. 0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:09.759 But come on, man, it's about to be the one 0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:11.640 of the highest paid quarterbacks and not the highest paid 0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:14.600 quarterback in the National Football League. You're not going out 0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:17.000 there for the free ski. I'm sorry, You're just not 0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:19.239 gonna do it. The game is too tough. Get your money, 0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:21.279 big dog. Hey when you hit me, hit you with 0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:26.120 a yeah, I'm lying, I'm. 0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:31.200 Doing it for the ground and yeah no, even if 0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:34.279 subconscious was saying, boy, you better stop now. 0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:34.600 You know. 0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:36.120 Here's the thing with Dak. 0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:38.960 It comes down to the way that he was treated 0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:41.279 in those years that they, you know, put the tag 0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:42.800 on him, he put the franchise. 0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:44.720 He had to fight for his contract. 0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:48.040 He's continuing to have to fight to just say that 0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:51.800 he belongs amongst the upper echelon of quarterbacks in the NFL. 0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:55.040 Everybody knows when it comes down to Dak the perception 0:38:55.280 --> 0:39:00.920 is great regular season quarterback, not very good in the playoffs. 0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:03.120 He has to get that up from over him, he 0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:05.120 really does. He has to get that off of him, 0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:07.960 and he has to take it further and even to 0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:11.040 an NFC championship or a super Bowl. But that's where 0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:13.200 he is, and so I think when you hear sentiments 0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:16.439 and him saying stuff like that, he kind of understands that, look, 0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:18.360 this is where I am in my career. 0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:19.920 He's a jacket. 0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:23.520 But in his ninth year as a player in the 0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:25.719 long jet, the ten year of quarterbacks, I mean just 0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:28.800 thinking of Tom Brady, this guy, here's a guy that 0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:31.880 could play for another meaning Dak Prescott could play for 0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:35.560 another five six years at a high level. Okay, so look, 0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:37.200 the money part of it is going to take care 0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:41.160 of himself. But I think for him just reaching that 0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:44.279 great status, it's just all going to be culminated with 0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:46.359 him actually winning a super Bowl. 0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:52.040 That's where he has to be idealism versus realism. Ideally, 0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:52.560 you want to. 0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:54.080 Come out and say what he said, which is that 0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:57.440 you play, you play because you love it. But we 0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:01.800 also understand this is a business. People like Jerry Jones 0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:04.919 and Shad Khan and the Maras getting rich. So you're 0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:07.839 not going to get later free. And if I'm going 0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.040 to get CTE out of this, I'm going to get 0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:12.440 paid too. But I think there's a way I think 0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:15.000 he said the idealistic thing of what you want to say, 0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:17.600 But realistically, we know this man, this is a business, 0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:19.600 and you should come in and get what you can 0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:21.919 while you can, because we know when they are done 0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:23.640 with you, they are going to throw you out. 0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:25.200 And that's that's business. 0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:27.960 And I'm okay with Has it been your reality as 0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:31.120 a journalist that you've heard players say stuff like that 0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:34.440 as they've gotten longer in their career versus when they 0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:34.960 were younger. 0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:36.319 I don't play for the money. 0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:37.960 I look at thatak and I think you just go 0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:41.400 back to the tremendous deal they had for him, you know, 0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:43.360 before he got his make deal. I mean, he was 0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:45.520 the man was making more money on endorsements than he 0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:49.040 was as a player. But you never saw him complaining 0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:50.120 I'm going. 0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:52.040 To be he didn't do that. He just went and 0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:54.200 did his deal. So I think we can take him 0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:55.520 at the face. 0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:58.680 Value because when he was the biggest bargain in the game, 0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:00.920 he didn't get out here and complain about He just 0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:04.480 went made his own money in other places. So I 0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:07.840 just think we know he's not a he's not a 0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:11.040 greedy man. But at the same time, you have an 0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:12.799 agent you're going to get what you can. 0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:13.919 While you can't. 0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:14.719 You best do that. 0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:18.719 If you don't, you're not smart. My goys, this is fun. 0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:19.359 This is fun. 0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:22.160 You forty five minutes a good time, man, Het Harrison Man, 0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:28.160 appreciate man, got at your money, get your entertainment. Are 0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:29.319 you not entertain you. 0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:33.560 Good? 0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:35.520 Yeah? I'll tell you what. 0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:36.520 Twelvemies right there? 0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:37.400 Do you believe that? 0:41:39.200 --> 0:41:43.279 Yes? What a state, gentlemen, faith is when you believe 0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:46.640 in things that you cannot see. All right, we'll do 0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:50.439 it again Monday right here. That's why we're not out radio. 0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:50.719 Yes. 0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:55.239 This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:57.239 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.