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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players Lounge,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star.

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Speaker 1: Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison, and

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Speaker 1: newly Scrugs.

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Speaker 2: Here we are the Players Lounge.

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Speaker 3: We are here this week. Okay, we are here this week.

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Speaker 3: Took Memorial Day off. You took Memorial Day off, as

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Speaker 3: you should have. But the crew is back here. Danny

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Speaker 3: McCrae with the day off, all right. Barry Church is

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Speaker 3: here in the house. Scrugs. We are here at the

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Speaker 3: home of the Dallas Cowboys headquarters.

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Speaker 2: Right here in.

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Speaker 4: We made text.

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Speaker 5: A lot of weather going on around here, a lot

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Speaker 5: of playoffs going on around here.

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Speaker 3: Last year around here yesterday MAVs game. So I had

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Speaker 3: this question I wanted to hit hit Bury with because

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Speaker 3: he's a former player. Heck and he his his his

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Speaker 3: tax bracket is different than not.

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Speaker 4: Hey, you ain't gonna tell me again.

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Speaker 3: So I see Michael Parsons at the game yesterday, Diggs

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Speaker 3: at the game, Barry.

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Speaker 2: Cooper has been at the past two games.

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Speaker 3: What are the ticket prices when you want to go

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Speaker 3: to a game, like, what is the protocol? Do you

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Speaker 3: have a person over there that the guy's got to me?

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Speaker 3: How do guys get in on that?

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Speaker 6: So current players were talking about Parsons and CD and Audo.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure they got a guy because when I played,

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Speaker 6: I had a guy to a you know, hey, what's

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Speaker 6: going on? I need these tickets here. It didn't know

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Speaker 6: getting hooked up, you know, for the most part about it.

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Speaker 6: But sometimes you don't get hooked up. And when you're

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Speaker 6: looking at them court side seas that I'm gonna run

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Speaker 6: you about for the Western Conference final about ten of pop.

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Speaker 6: Ten of pop. So I'm not sure if they're paying

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Speaker 6: those prices because they might have got a guy that

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Speaker 6: can't hook them up down there. But those court south seas, man,

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Speaker 6: they get pretty pricey out there, man, they get real pricey.

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Speaker 6: But nine times out of ten, they got a guy

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Speaker 6: down there that's like, hey, come through, you know, we'll

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Speaker 6: put you on the camera, blahlah blah blah blah, and

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Speaker 6: they come through and get it done.

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Speaker 3: Really so, so you could potentially get it for now, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're good.

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Speaker 5: Now we're talking about the upper echelon players like me.

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Speaker 5: I always had to face there was no there was

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Speaker 5: no dis somebody got they're gonna be able to walk

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Speaker 5: up in there a nine times out of ten bands.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, wow. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I went to game three and I was looking down there. No, no, no,

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Speaker 6: I don't like basketball that much.

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Speaker 7: My god.

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Speaker 4: Yeah it was. It's real. It gets real, man.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you went to game three. Yeah, I went

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Speaker 2: the game three.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, me and nobody from the game.

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Speaker 2: All right, so so so on something like that.

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Speaker 3: You just called ticket guy, just say hey, look, I'm

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Speaker 3: trying to get over here, and then you just kind

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Speaker 3: of give a price to where you want.

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Speaker 6: To where you want to go or what you're willing

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Speaker 6: to wit your budget, and uh yeah, my budget.

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Speaker 4: Was nowhere near that that.

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Speaker 2: Of course I was about four rows back.

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Speaker 4: But still meanwhile on the south side of town, I'm like, man, my.

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Speaker 5: Nose is bleeding. These three people in front of me.

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Speaker 5: You know, I would have to get past that. You

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Speaker 5: know how you get that little step down to the court.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's a there's a gap right there, and

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Speaker 5: they still they still come and deliver your drinks and.

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Speaker 6: You get to go down the little little you know

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Speaker 6: how the players yeah, First of all, we don't know

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Speaker 6: that church. You're gonna have to explain this to Yeah,

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Speaker 6: you know you go down these steps like no, we don't.

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Speaker 4: It's like we don't know where is that.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's like a little steps.

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Speaker 6: So you got court side, you know, two three rolls

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Speaker 6: right here and there, just a little like one little step.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So so I go to these games

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Speaker 3: all the time. I haven't understand. So when you're coming in,

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Speaker 3: do you what you're doing? Like that?

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Speaker 2: Are you coming in from the bottom?

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Speaker 4: There was the bathroom down here though.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So like if I'm going to the bad so

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Speaker 6: I'm right there, I'm not going all the way up

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Speaker 6: the steps to you. I go down the little where

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Speaker 6: the players.

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Speaker 4: Come in a little right there.

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Speaker 2: I go down the step and you can down yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: down the bows there.

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Speaker 4: Where do you park?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 4: I park?

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Speaker 6: So there's a you never heard of hardwood it's like

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Speaker 6: a little hardwood bar and there's on top of it

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Speaker 6: it's a little parking spot. I used residential shopping so

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Speaker 6: they never Yeah, just parked up in there and walk

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Speaker 6: bucks two blocks, three blocks. I ain't trying to pay

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Speaker 6: sixty bucks the uber, but it's hard to get an uber,

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Speaker 6: that's the thing. I'm like, man, it's hard to get

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Speaker 6: it one after the game. So yeah, a little couple

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Speaker 2: Okay, So so I've seen I've seen Parsons there and

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Speaker 2: did seen seen several guys there.

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Speaker 4: I haven't Shock was there on game three.

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Speaker 2: Well she's working and he's working. But yeah, yeah, Queen

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Speaker 2: Latifoo was there, Kelsey was there.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of people out there for the past

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Speaker 3: couple of games.

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Speaker 2: Uh, holiday weekends, so people had that.

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Speaker 4: But I did.

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Speaker 3: I just did wonders, like say, for the Cowboy players

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Speaker 3: that want to go. Remember Romo used to go Romo

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Speaker 3: all the time. Romo went different ways. Now Romo went

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Speaker 3: it's free agent Romo. Then he started to go as

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Speaker 3: Tony Roman. Then the next thing he was like to

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Speaker 3: make a wish kid and they let him.

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Speaker 6: Got the playing on the plane, go go warm up

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Speaker 6: on everything else. You know you upper echelon player. When

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Speaker 6: you see those pictures and you see like the football

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Speaker 6: players in like the the alleyway underneath the stadium, that's

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Speaker 6: how you know. You okay, big time, you you seen it?

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Speaker 6: Never have I've just seen pictures.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, yea very man.

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Speaker 5: You out to stop man, let you die in the current.

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Speaker 5: Never seen it, but he used the bathroom down there.

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Speaker 4: It exists. That's what they told me while wait in

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Speaker 4: the line.

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Speaker 2: Road four.

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Speaker 4: But you know that's awesome, man.

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Speaker 2: It's good. It's good stuff. It's good stuff. So so

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Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb. I did not see cd Lamb there. Uh

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Speaker 2: And obviously ced wants contract.

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Speaker 3: So guys, uh amar, I'm a Saint Brown Detroit thirty million,

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Speaker 3: a J Brown Philly thirty two million.

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Speaker 2: So this is the ballpark of what it is for

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Speaker 2: a receiver. I think we all on this show players,

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Speaker 2: we all acknowledge he's gonna get he's getting thirty.

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Speaker 4: At least at least start at least start at.

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Speaker 2: Least thirty million.

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Speaker 3: They're waiting and I was told by someone that Cede

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Speaker 3: Lamb is actually just waiting to see what Georg Jefferson does.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, go ahead, let's see what you got and.

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Speaker 3: Then and then you play your cards from there. If

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Speaker 3: I'm the Cowboys, I still don't understand. Whyn't you just

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Speaker 3: go and maybe they have maybe they haven't.

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Speaker 4: We don't know.

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Speaker 2: Like, man, here you go to me.

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Speaker 3: If I'm looking at Saint Saint Brown and Brown. Here

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Speaker 3: you go, man, Let's let's get this thing done and

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Speaker 3: move along here. So what are your thoughts right now?

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Speaker 4: Happening like my thing is?

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Speaker 5: And I'm glad you brought that up about Minnesota, because look,

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Speaker 5: I'm not a conspiracy theorist at all I do. But

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Speaker 5: before I make my take, I gotta say that I

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Speaker 5: do feel as though there's a little bit of collusion

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Speaker 5: going on in this situation because you're going to reset

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Speaker 5: the market one way or another. And if I'm CD, no,

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Speaker 5: I'm not anything until I find out exactly what's being

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Speaker 5: paid at the top. And if you're Minnesota, you're on

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Speaker 5: the other other side looking at the Cowboys the same way.

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Speaker 5: Truth is, these two players are kind of linked at

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Speaker 5: the hit because they came in the draft together and

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Speaker 5: CD was drafted ahead of Justin Justin Jefferson. But who

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Speaker 5: do you think to this point has had the better

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Speaker 5: career to this point? Right now, I'm gonna say Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 5: OK I'm gonna say not a debate, okay, But if

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Speaker 5: you're a CD, you're debating that because one you come

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Speaker 5: into the league.

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Speaker 4: Dak gets hurt.

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Speaker 5: Whatever it is, DA's hurt, all of that quarterback Turmolda's

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Speaker 5: hurt twice. Your numbers have been affected by it. But

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Speaker 5: finally you get an opportunity to prove that you're the man,

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Speaker 5: and everybody knows that you're that. All right, He is

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Speaker 5: in a position right now to reset the market but

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Speaker 5: also push himself over what Justin Jefferson could get. If

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Speaker 5: I'm CD, I'm not looking at Justin Jefferson like everybody

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Speaker 5: else saying like he should get paid more than me.

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Speaker 4: I'm fighting to be that guy.

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Speaker 5: Because if you're looking at if you're looking at CD

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Speaker 5: like a like a stock, like I looked at all

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Speaker 5: of these players, who has them more upside? Justin Jefferson

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Speaker 5: right now doesn't have a quarterback. Okay, Ceedee Lamb. On

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Speaker 5: the other hand, he does.

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So if I'm CD, I'm fighting for tooth and

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Speaker 5: nail every penny I got because you're not about to

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Speaker 5: say I'm one B to Justin Jefferson's one A. And

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Speaker 5: that's just his perception how he perceives himself in this

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Speaker 5: contract negotiation. We may not agree with that, but if

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Speaker 5: you're CD Lamb, you're fighting tooth and nail to be

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Speaker 5: the highest paid wide receiving the league.

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Speaker 6: I got you on that one, and I'm with youing that.

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Speaker 6: And if I'm cde Lamb, you said A J. Brown

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Speaker 6: got thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm not taking a penny less than thirty two, because.

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Speaker 6: In my opinion, if I'm CD Lamb, I'm better than

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Speaker 6: you know pretty much every receiver out here outside of

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Speaker 6: justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 2: We also know Philly, Philly, and their numbers are always interesting.

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Speaker 3: Math in that book, So the math of man. Okay,

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Speaker 3: well he's got to be go balloon and pay me.

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Speaker 3: Every Philly does some interesting things things with numbers there.

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Speaker 3: So so I feel you on that, but I and

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Speaker 3: this is just my thing. Heck, I think they're really

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Speaker 3: different in terms of how you how you go about

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Speaker 3: the contract. I'll say this, I don't know if Minnesota

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Speaker 3: get the deal. Don't Jefferson, Honestly no, I don't know that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I could see them saying, hey, man, for

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Speaker 3: what you're looking for, we may not be able to

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Speaker 3: make this thing happen. I could see it because it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be way out there and their market and everything.

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Speaker 3: Can they sustain paying them? We'll see we'll see as

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Speaker 3: far as Cede Lamb goes. Ceedee Lamb has a couple

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Speaker 3: of things I think you have to take into a fact,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's gonna work. For the same thing

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Speaker 3: with Dak Prescott being a Dallas cowboy, you're gonna be

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Speaker 3: on TV more than anybody around here.

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Speaker 2: Maybe this sleep number bed does.

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Speaker 3: But I just think for these guys, there's an other

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Speaker 2: From Jerry. He never tell me the last true guy

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Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, but you're not saying taking the hometown

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Speaker 3: Nobody nobody has, Okay, especially if we're talking about an

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Speaker 5: He tied the market, Zeke set the market, Dak set

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Speaker 2: I mean, Travis Frederick set the center market. Zach Martin,

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Speaker 3: The whole thing about the collusion of him and Damarius

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Speaker 2: When have they not?

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Speaker 5: talking about being a Dallas cowboy, being in Texas, the taxes,

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna get a penny less than what all right,

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Speaker 5: I think justin Jefferson's best I'm I'm more of a weapon.

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Speaker 5: But from his touchdowns to his yard is to having

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Speaker 4: Endorsement deals and all that.

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Speaker 4: He's generationally wealthy. He doesn't care about that. The bad

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Speaker 2: They're going to get the back. We know this because

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Speaker 3: They can talk tough all they have, but when it

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Speaker 4: They've always you're talking about the front office, Yeah, they always.

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Speaker 3: You know, Mike Lervan he got paid, George Gollaway got paid,

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Speaker 3: it got paid. I mean DeMarco Murray was the only

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Speaker 2: Gonna get the bag.

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Speaker 6: We know this.

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Speaker 3: But I do believe Heckman, that part about you know

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Speaker 2: Gonna be here. I mean, look at Zeke came back.

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Speaker 2: Why did he come back? Family? You like sitting here

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Speaker 2: and I think the same thing. That's why I believe

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Speaker 3: Heckman, that is going to be Ultimately, you gonna get

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Speaker 3: Think that's something that you take into account. Not that

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Speaker 5: we're talking about market setting contracts. Every We've said this before,

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Speaker 2: When when happened that when the go ahead? Travis Frederick

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Speaker 3: Zach markin Guard Market said it, Tyron took kind of

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Speaker 4: But still, but somebody is somebody in this situation is

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Speaker 3: I mean I just when you say it, heck, I

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Speaker 4: I believe the CD deserves it.

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Speaker 5: I believe he earned it, and I believe that his

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Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy prove with the way that he put that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, whoever was first?

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Speaker 2: But he has a mancuff.

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Speaker 6: Ceede Lamb has the cowboys handcuff right now because if

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Speaker 2: It has to be done like it has to be done.

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Speaker 2: He's getting he's getting paid. They're all they're all three

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Speaker 5: You're just saying that no matter what the bag is

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Speaker 4: By the way, by the way, here's twenty mal.

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Speaker 3: Micah's getting his bag, ceedee, Lamb's getting his back Dak.

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Speaker 5: That's why I say it's weird. But the other two,

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Speaker 5: Jerry wantson here.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: I had a good conversation with claireence Hill. So we're

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Speaker 3: He said he didn't call that the.

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Speaker 4: Great article about that too much?

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Speaker 3: Right, And he were talking before he was talking about

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Speaker 2: Like no, I didn't. I just started laughing with him.

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Speaker 4: Like only you, only you, only you do that?

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Speaker 3: He wrote it up and he said, and I didn't

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Speaker 6: Man, they just sold you think they're gonna go this

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Speaker 2: We got to see what he does in OTAs, and

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Speaker 4: She does.

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Speaker 3: So Look, you could keep Cooper Rush on your roster

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Speaker 4: He's here.

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Speaker 3: Your your thought process is what do you do with Lance?

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Speaker 3: And and how do you get something out of him?

443
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Speaker 3: Be it for you or maybe even a trademark or something.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a That's why I just don't have

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Speaker 3: a problem with him like some people do, because you

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Speaker 3: were if you didn't draft, if you didn't if you

447
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Speaker 3: didn't use your fourth round pick like you did this

448
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Speaker 3: year for him, you were going to need to draft somebody.

449
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Speaker 3: You know, you're going to have to especially now that

450
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Speaker 3: the man they get ready to eighteen games. We already

451
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Speaker 3: see what they're doing now, struggling trying to get quarterback

452
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Speaker 3: through seventeen.

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Speaker 2: You better have some folks ready to go. I don't

454
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Speaker 2: have a problem with trade Lance. He's still a young guy.

455
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Speaker 2: I mean he younger than Michael Pennis.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right now today.

457
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Speaker 5: And I think that's why they've already come out and

458
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Speaker 5: said he's going to get so many reps in the

459
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Speaker 5: preseason because you gotta show everybody else what he still

460
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Speaker 5: has in its tank, because everybody knows what Cooper Rush has.

461
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Speaker 5: But I think it's also the San Francisco Pretty, It's

462
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Speaker 5: the brock Pretty effect when it comes down to quarterbacks

463
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Speaker 5: because he basically Shanahan's just showing you, look, I could

464
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Speaker 5: take mister irrelevant, put him in an offense, in a

465
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Speaker 5: system and make it work. And so many coaches offensive coordinated,

466
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Speaker 5: it's just their ego saying I can make it work

467
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 5: with anybody. You can be a game manager and still

468
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Speaker 5: make it to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: He's that good, you know, Kyle, consider here and say

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Speaker 3: it and do it because he's that good. But I

471
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Speaker 3: think along the way, as a head coach, you have

472
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Speaker 3: to figure out what is it that I need. I

473
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Speaker 3: think Mike McCarthy's done a fantastic job. Does get enough

474
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Speaker 3: credit for figuring out what he needs in quarterbacks from

475
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Speaker 3: what he was able to work with with far he

476
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Speaker 3: was there when Aaron Rodgers came through. What he's been

477
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Speaker 3: able to take that next level, I mean to me,

478
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Speaker 3: I'm very pressed with Cooper Rush. I thank Cooper Rush

479
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 3: was a guy who they threw out the door and

480
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Speaker 3: he ended up a year with the Giants and people

481
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Speaker 3: like ah, he comes back here works with McCarthy and

482
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Speaker 3: he does. I'm really eager to see what he can

483
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Speaker 3: do with Trey Lance. I want to see it because

484
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Speaker 3: I think he's done a good job. So we know

485
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Speaker 3: what Kyle shannons. I think Sean McVay is a guy

486
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Speaker 3: when they he was there of Washington working with Kirk Cousins,

487
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Speaker 3: when he went out there with Jared Goff and to

488
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Speaker 3: the point in time where he said, you know what,

489
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Speaker 3: I can't win a super Bowl with this guy.

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Speaker 2: Go get me that guy. He got Stafford.

491
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Speaker 3: They won a super Bowl. And I just think certain

492
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Speaker 3: coaches know how they got an understanding. I think McVeigh

493
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Speaker 3: has an understanding I think McCarthy has an understanding. I

494
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Speaker 3: think Andy Reid truly has. This dude went to the

495
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Speaker 3: playoffs well Feeley or whatever. I mean, this guy is

496
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Speaker 3: really good. Man, hey Man, Donovan go away. I'm gonna

497
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Speaker 3: go ahead, trade.

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Speaker 2: You in the division. I'm still gonna go ahead and

499
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Speaker 2: go kick. But he's really good.

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Speaker 3: We've got some good coaches of quarterbacks who understand what

501
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Speaker 3: it is he can. I think someone said, what is

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Speaker 3: it that I need? And the good coaches know what

503
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Speaker 3: they need here, and I think Mike McCarthy and I'm

504
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Speaker 3: really eager to see what he can do to I

505
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Speaker 3: don't think Trey Lance is as bad as people say,

506
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Speaker 3: because that.

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Speaker 2: Perfect And I'm gonna go I go back to Cooper

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Speaker 2: Rush man.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I remember when they brought in Cooper Rush

510
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511
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Speaker 3: In the first year he had a good and then

512
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Speaker 3: and then it went downhill, and then they ended up

513
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Speaker 3: cutting it and then they brought him back. I mean

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Speaker 3: I was there that Thanksgiving day, man, no Halloween up

515
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Speaker 3: there in Minnesota. The guy those are three hundred yards

516
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Speaker 3: and got it done. And then when that got hurt,

517
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Speaker 3: kept the ship to float. I mean, I'm looking at

518
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Speaker 3: him like this is and this is not a slimmon,

519
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Speaker 3: this is a bus driver and they're sitting up here

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Speaker 3: getting production out of him that they know Mike McCarthy

521
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Speaker 3: knew what.

522
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Speaker 2: To do with him.

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Speaker 3: I think Trey Lance is a more talented player based

524
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Speaker 3: off the skills. We have to see it, but I

525
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Speaker 3: am excited to see what I think he can do

526
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Speaker 3: with Mike McCarthy. Am I ready to go put some

527
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Speaker 3: betts on something like that? But based on what I've

528
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Speaker 3: seen with Mike working with guys, I think he's really

529
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Speaker 3: good at that.

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Speaker 2: I think what we saw from Cooper Rush is good.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a break.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So all right, guys, I just did my Trey

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Speaker 3: Lance thought process and go ahead, shoot the bullet holes.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead you want me to do.

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Speaker 6: Because you know, the question was, you know what makes

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Speaker 6: you feel like Trey Lance you know, can be that

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Speaker 6: that backup guy you said McCarthy because he you know,

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Speaker 6: his his work with quarterbacks. And when you say, you know,

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Speaker 6: Lance is more talented, I'm not so sure about that.

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Speaker 6: I think he's more athletic than than a Cooper Rush

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Speaker 6: in a dack. But you know what will Yeah, you

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Speaker 6: know he's athletic, but you know, is he's he accurate

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Speaker 6: with the football? Can he can he read the defenses

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Speaker 6: out there? Can he go from you know, his first

621
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Speaker 6: progression to the last progression? Is he you know, can

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Speaker 6: he check the ball down?

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Speaker 9: Like?

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Speaker 6: These are all these things that I've yet to see

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Speaker 6: from a Tree Lance. This is a guy who's played

626
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 6: but fifteen games in college. You know, goes in North

627
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Speaker 6: Dakota State. Nothing against them, but it's not like he

628
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 6: was going against sec powers out here. So to me,

629
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Speaker 6: you know, I still think there's a lot left open

630
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Speaker 6: on the on the Trey Lance book. And is McCarthy

631
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Speaker 6: the right guy to get him going and get that

632
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Speaker 6: all that untapped potential he could be. You know, like

633
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Speaker 6: you said, he worked with the forest, the Rogers, the

634
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Speaker 6: Dacks of the world and he got them to the

635
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Speaker 6: next level. So he could do that with Trey Lance.

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Speaker 6: But to me, I just don't see it, and I

637
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 6: don't see it coming to for Wish either. I don't

638
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 6: see this guy going. If that going down, you know, guy,

639
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 6: you know that doesn't happen. But if he does go down,

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Speaker 6: I don't see Trey Lance going out there being four

641
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Speaker 6: and one like a Cooper Rush was. And did Cooper

642
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Speaker 6: have a great defense out there as well, Yes they

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Speaker 6: were that year that you know, Cooper Rush stepped in

644
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Speaker 6: and they were playing phenomenal defense, being able to get

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Speaker 6: after the pass, rush return the ball, over all that

646
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Speaker 6: great things. But I just don't see Trey Lance being

647
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Speaker 6: able to be as productive in this system like a

648
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Speaker 6: Cooper Rush.

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Speaker 4: Was the echo.

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Speaker 5: And I agree with everything that you just said, and

651
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Speaker 5: it's Trey Lance to me, the anomaly of him and

652
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 5: just the premature nature in which they traded for that guy.

653
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 5: To me, I was like, why, you know, what's the

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Speaker 5: reason when you already have a Cooper Rush a proven commodity,

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Speaker 5: and nobody is harder on underwhelming quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: The new sprugs, okay, and so I was always on

657
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Speaker 4: Cooper Rush.

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Speaker 6: I was awful.

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Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, I was because that was Gary,

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Speaker 5: because you had Gary Gilbert. Okay, yeah, double g all right,

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Speaker 5: And he had competition, which which made you question.

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Speaker 4: Why they let him go Gary Gilbert go for Cooper Rush.

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Speaker 4: And it showed.

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Speaker 5: It showed in those games that you're just talking about.

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Speaker 5: The Halloween game against the Vikings. You saw him when

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Speaker 5: Dak went down with his with his thumb, with with

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Speaker 5: his thumb, and he is a proven commodity.

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Speaker 4: Why did we need Trey Lance?

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Speaker 5: But to me, if the pick itself was for future picks, okay,

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Speaker 5: I thought you were going to use that this year,

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Speaker 5: all right, Because you did. It was a fifth or

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Speaker 5: fourth or whatever it was that you used on him,

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Speaker 5: you needed that, uh this year. Having this guy play

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Speaker 5: and take those snaps in the preseason, okay. It makes

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Speaker 5: him better and also shows that Mike McCarthy can develop

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Speaker 5: these guys to be I'm not gonna say the farms

677
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Speaker 5: and things, but what I am what I'm basically saying is,

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Speaker 5: thus does Trede Lance have a future in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: I just that's a great area.

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Speaker 5: I don't I can't walk into that soundly and say

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Speaker 5: that that's who he is because he also has been

682
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Speaker 5: often hurt.

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Speaker 3: So and I go back to the conversations I have

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Speaker 3: with some folks who are part of the deal, is

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Speaker 3: had they not gotten Trey Lance, they would have used

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Speaker 3: a twenty twenty four pick on a quarterback. That's that's

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Speaker 3: what they would have done to say, Okay, we have

688
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Speaker 3: a question about you know, what are we doing with

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Speaker 3: Dak Cooper's okay, but let's we want another guy.

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Speaker 2: So they used a fourth on Trey Lance, who.

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Speaker 3: They had a second round grade on, who they thought

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Speaker 3: was a good player coming out of school. They liked

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Speaker 3: the player, so they use a four on them. The problem,

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Speaker 3: and what makes so many people upset, is that you

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Speaker 3: see Mac Jones, former first round pick, Justin Fields form

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Speaker 3: first round pick who basically went for sixes. But if

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Speaker 3: you tried to get those players at the beginning of

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Speaker 3: the year where they got Treyler, you would not have

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Speaker 3: gotten them for a six.

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Speaker 4: That's why it's premature.

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Speaker 2: And see I and for me, I didn't have a

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Speaker 2: problem with it. From the standpoint, I understood the logic.

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Speaker 3: Heck of hey, we got a second round pick a

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Speaker 3: guy that's we're just using as a lotto ticket. Let's

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Speaker 3: see what we think we can do with him with

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Speaker 3: our coaching staff in our system. If we hit the

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Speaker 3: lotto ticket, great, If we don't, we don't, We'll take

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Speaker 3: the opportunity. No, not to say it's the same, but

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Speaker 3: what did the forty nine ers do with brock Perty

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Speaker 3: That was a lot of ticket.

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Speaker 2: It was a scratch boom.

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Speaker 3: It worked, So maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. I

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Speaker 3: don't have a problem with rolling the dice on a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I remember Aaron Brooks being taken by the green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 3: I watched Aaron Brooks with Virginia. I thought he was

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Speaker 3: a nice player. Goes to green Bay, they developed, they

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Speaker 3: move him on to the Saints, and then Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 3: ended up working with Aaron Brooks, by the way, and

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Speaker 3: won the first ever playoff game for the Saints. I

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Speaker 3: believe Mike McCarthy can work with quarterbacks and make them

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Speaker 3: better players. That's what I'm saying. I ain't sitting here

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Speaker 3: to tell you, hey man, he got ready to go

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Speaker 3: take that spot. No, no, could they make him a

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Speaker 3: better player? Could we see them get something that Kyle

725
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Speaker 3: Shanahan could not? And I think a part of the

726
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Speaker 3: problem is people say, hey, man, Kyle could get no matter.

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Speaker 3: This guy ain't no good. You go back and you

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Speaker 3: listen to the people like Mike Lombardi and Chris Simson,

729
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Speaker 3: They'll tell you that wasn't a dude that Shannahan even wanted.

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Speaker 3: That it was Lynch and another guy who kind of

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Speaker 3: pushed Trey Lance on him, that he was more of

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Speaker 3: a Mac Jones kind of guy. And if it's one

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Speaker 3: thing you don't want to do in football is push

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Speaker 3: a player on a coach or a coach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the worst players are going dan on the

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Speaker 2: right man.

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Speaker 5: At what point, and going back to what Church was

738
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Speaker 5: saying about Trey Lance playing only fifteen college games and

739
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Speaker 5: things like that, just he came into the league already

740
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Speaker 5: an unproven commodity, and maybe that was Shanahan's apprehension about

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Speaker 5: him as a quarterback. The guys that we're talking about

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Speaker 5: are guys that have had that has played and has

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Speaker 5: that tape playing against you know, sec Vig. Well, if

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Speaker 5: you've seen what they can do rock party. I was

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Speaker 5: saying it was Big twelve. He was a bally played

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Speaker 5: you know, he was that guy. And so look, my

747
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Speaker 5: thing is with this whole Trey Lance development argument, whatever

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Speaker 5: it is, I always thought that we needed other things.

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Speaker 5: We spent that on that, all right, we always had,

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Speaker 5: we had Cooper Rush there.

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Speaker 4: I didn't.

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Speaker 5: I didn't understand it, and that's why I thought it

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Speaker 5: was premature from that aspect. But still, if you're going

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Speaker 5: to develop this guy and he's going to be your commodity,

755
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Speaker 5: he's gonna be your second quarterback. Fine, If you're using

756
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Speaker 5: him for trade bait in the future, I'm fine with

757
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Speaker 5: that as well. But I'm I'm I'm right there with

758
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Speaker 5: you when I say this guy hadn't done anything. I

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Speaker 5: hadn't seen anything from so I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know what he is, which is also why he

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Speaker 2: was available. You know why he was available. And you

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Speaker 2: don't look justin fields he showed you he played.

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Speaker 3: A high look one of college, you know, one in

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Speaker 3: the same thing with Mac Jones, and you know, this

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Speaker 2: So I am just eager and ready to see exactly

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Speaker 2: what it is that they can do?

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Speaker 11: I don't play for money, never have never cared for it,

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Speaker 11: to be honest with you, Yeah, would give it up

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Speaker 11: just to just to play this game. So I uh yeah,

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Speaker 11: So so I allow that to the business people to

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Speaker 3: That is Dak Prescott. He's up for a contract extension here.

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Speaker 3: So Dak saying I don't play for money. He recently

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Speaker 3: his last contract was a four ye hundred.

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Speaker 2: And sixty million dollars.

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Speaker 4: So all right, no, it's it's not.

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Speaker 6: I've never heard anyone, you know say they, you know,

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Speaker 6: don't play for Maybe maybe that's why you know, I

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Speaker 6: wasn't considered one of the greats because I've treated.

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Speaker 5: This league it's a job. Yeah, I'm gon go ahead,

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Speaker 5: clock it and I'm a clock out. So maybe that's

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Speaker 5: why I will never consider the greats. And they love

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Speaker 5: the game and they'll play for free, but I don't

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Speaker 5: believe that.

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Speaker 6: I mean, there's only maybe one or two sports where

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Speaker 6: You're gonna go out there, You're gonna golf. You ain't

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Speaker 6: getting paid for it, but you're gonna go out there,

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Speaker 6: and golf consistently with the NFL many people, it takes

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Speaker 6: something back in return.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I love this sentiment.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna go out there, you know, say it in

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Speaker 6: But come on, man, it's about to be the one

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Speaker 6: of the highest paid quarterbacks and not the highest paid

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Speaker 6: quarterback in the National Football League. You're not going out

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Speaker 6: there for the free ski. I'm sorry, You're just not

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Speaker 6: gonna do it. The game is too tough. Get your money,

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Speaker 6: big dog. Hey when you hit me, hit you with

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Speaker 6: a yeah, I'm lying, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Doing it for the ground and yeah no, even if

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Speaker 4: subconscious was saying, boy, you better stop now.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing with Dak.

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Speaker 5: It comes down to the way that he was treated

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Speaker 5: in those years that they, you know, put the tag

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Speaker 4: He had to fight for his contract.

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Speaker 5: He's continuing to have to fight to just say that

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Speaker 5: he belongs amongst the upper echelon of quarterbacks in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Everybody knows when it comes down to Dak the perception

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Speaker 5: is great regular season quarterback, not very good in the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: He has to get that up from over him, he

878
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 5: really does. He has to get that off of him,

879
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 5: and he has to take it further and even to

880
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 5: an NFC championship or a super Bowl. But that's where

881
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 5: he is, and so I think when you hear sentiments

882
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 5: and him saying stuff like that, he kind of understands that, look,

883
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 5: this is where I am in my career.

884
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 4: He's a jacket.

885
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 5: But in his ninth year as a player in the

886
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 5: long jet, the ten year of quarterbacks, I mean just

887
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 5: thinking of Tom Brady, this guy, here's a guy that

888
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 5: could play for another meaning Dak Prescott could play for

889
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 5: another five six years at a high level. Okay, so look,

890
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 5: the money part of it is going to take care

891
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 5: of himself. But I think for him just reaching that

892
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 5: great status, it's just all going to be culminated with

893
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 5: him actually winning a super Bowl.

894
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: That's where he has to be idealism versus realism. Ideally,

895
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: you want to.

896
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: Come out and say what he said, which is that

897
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 3: you play, you play because you love it. But we

898
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 3: also understand this is a business. People like Jerry Jones

899
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 3: and Shad Khan and the Maras getting rich. So you're

900
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 3: not going to get later free. And if I'm going

901
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 3: to get CTE out of this, I'm going to get

902
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 3: paid too. But I think there's a way I think

903
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: he said the idealistic thing of what you want to say,

904
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: But realistically, we know this man, this is a business,

905
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 3: and you should come in and get what you can

906
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 3: while you can, because we know when they are done

907
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: with you, they are going to throw you out.

908
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: And that's that's business.

909
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 5: And I'm okay with Has it been your reality as

910
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 5: a journalist that you've heard players say stuff like that

911
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 5: as they've gotten longer in their career versus when they

912
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 5: were younger.

913
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 4: I don't play for the money.

914
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: I look at thatak and I think you just go

915
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 3: back to the tremendous deal they had for him, you know,

916
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 3: before he got his make deal. I mean, he was

917
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: the man was making more money on endorsements than he

918
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 3: was as a player. But you never saw him complaining

919
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 3: I'm going.

920
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: To be he didn't do that. He just went and

921
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: did his deal. So I think we can take him

922
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: at the face.

923
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 3: Value because when he was the biggest bargain in the game,

924
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: he didn't get out here and complain about He just

925
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 3: went made his own money in other places. So I

926
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 3: just think we know he's not a he's not a

927
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: greedy man. But at the same time, you have an

928
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 3: agent you're going to get what you can.

929
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 2: While you can't.

930
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 4: You best do that.

931
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: If you don't, you're not smart. My goys, this is fun.

932
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 4: This is fun.

933
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: You forty five minutes a good time, man, Het Harrison Man,

934
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: appreciate man, got at your money, get your entertainment. Are

935
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: you not entertain you.

936
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 7: Good?

937
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 4: Yeah? I'll tell you what.

938
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: Twelvemies right there?

939
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 4: Do you believe that?

940
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 5: Yes? What a state, gentlemen, faith is when you believe

941
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 5: in things that you cannot see. All right, we'll do

942
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 5: it again Monday right here. That's why we're not out radio.

943
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 9: Yes.

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945
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