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Speaker 1: There are one hundred and five days until the NFL
Speaker 1: Draft in Las Vegas, Nevada. There are only two weeks
Speaker 1: until the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama. But the weight
Speaker 1: is over for the twenty twenty Dallas Cowboys Draft Show,
Speaker 1: live from the Star in Frisco, Texas. Alongside the great
Speaker 1: David Hellman of Dallas Cowboys dot Com, You've got Kevin
Speaker 1: Turner across the table from the Athletic and then from
Speaker 1: one oh five point three the fan mister Jeff Cavan
Speaker 1: on Boys. It's time to get into draft coverage in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. It's crazy to think that that journey is
Speaker 1: finally here. Oh man, Kyle, I know you've got some experience,
Speaker 1: but you've got the voice for this man. Let's for
Speaker 1: those of you just joining us. Yes, Kyle Yeoman's were
Speaker 1: glad to welcome you to the studio. I think if
Speaker 1: you watch our programs are familiar with our stuff, you've
Speaker 1: probably heard him behind the scenes a little bit, joining
Speaker 1: us at the desk. And I'm excited about it. Hell
Speaker 1: of an intro. Thank you. Sorry not to steal your
Speaker 1: thunder ahead. It's fine, let's do this thing. Let's do
Speaker 1: this thing. And I mean, there are plenty of storylines
Speaker 1: going around the draft already. I know, Jeff, you're a
Speaker 1: gigantic wide receiver advocate for the Cowboys in the first round.
Speaker 1: There are plenty of wide receivers to pick from. I
Speaker 1: quit though, I'm out, you're out, backed out on it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why as soon as McCarthy shouted out Randall Cobb during
Speaker 1: press where I was like, all right, Cobb's coming back.
Speaker 1: They're gonna keep Cooper, They're gonna keep Gallop. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to let it go. You can't do that
Speaker 1: on January eight, I gotta let it go. No, you don't.
Speaker 1: I can't have CD him is already done. Can't have rugs.
Speaker 1: When has common sense ever stopped you from pounding the
Speaker 1: drum that you want to pound? That's a fair question
Speaker 1: with weird wording. You're right and no, yeah, but I'll
Speaker 1: have to find another gallop guy. I'm have to go
Speaker 1: find a third rounder. I mean, we're jumping way into
Speaker 1: the micro very early. But like that doesn't mean anything
Speaker 1: to me. Like you got to see the market. Randall
Speaker 1: Cobb might not necessarily be back. I'm not ready to
Speaker 1: give up on that dream. Yeah, like he was. He
Speaker 1: was probably gonna show up to that press conference no
Speaker 1: matter what. Right, Yeah, but then McCarthy called him beautiful,
Speaker 1: and I think he called him in this move. He
Speaker 1: did this little move a thing to be here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, I think Randall Cobb gets a better offer.
Speaker 1: I have reat, especially after the Cowboys paid Deak and
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper and they can't give we can't give you
Speaker 1: ten million dollars. We're gonna draft Henry Ruggs and prosper
Speaker 1: Oh see, I was thinking he's gonna come back in
Speaker 1: another one year five million dollars. Yeah, he's gonna be that.
Speaker 1: It's possible. Yeah, it's very possible. But wide receivers, I
Speaker 1: mean there's plenty, not even just like top three round guys,
Speaker 1: but there's a little bit of depth in this draft
Speaker 1: that I think you could go after that. If Randall
Speaker 1: Cobb isn't the answer, then potentially you could go after
Speaker 1: in some of the later rounds, but also just quarterbacks high.
Speaker 1: Maybe not the quarterbacks for the Cowboys per se, but
Speaker 1: there's a bevy of guys in the first round that
Speaker 1: you're gonna look at. Are we ready to are we
Speaker 1: ready to rule that out? Hold on? Hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: let me let me just let me ask you. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you here today an honor of my friend
Speaker 1: who you need to be challenged here. Two of makes
Speaker 1: it to seventeen. Oh, your doctor says his hips fine,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be fine. It makes it to seventeen. Okay,
Speaker 1: we had this conversation two years ago. Lamar Jackson makes
Speaker 1: it to seventeen. Are you asking me? Are you asking
Speaker 1: me me as not you the Dallas Cowboys. I'm asking Dave,
Speaker 1: not the Cowboys. Didn't we do this? Oh, I'd be No,
Speaker 1: I can't do it. We did this invader ash year, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did we. Jake from makes it to your third
Speaker 1: round pick, Jake from your third round pick? No, come
Speaker 1: on man, no, okay, sorry, I'm there too. I like
Speaker 1: how we're so far in the weeds. Eight minutes into
Speaker 1: this thing. I love it. That didn't take very long
Speaker 1: at all. We are going to hit a lot of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys position needs and once coming up in segment three.
Speaker 1: We also got Twitter on the twenty and segment two,
Speaker 1: but kind of wanted to start things off just kind
Speaker 1: of general thoughts guys of twenty twenty. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know it's January, it's January ninth. I mean, we've got
Speaker 1: plenty of time until April twenty third. But right now,
Speaker 1: as you look at the draft overall, what is your
Speaker 1: feel as to what this draft is going to be
Speaker 1: known for. I mean, I'll start right here. I mean,
Speaker 1: we kind of covered some of it already, but I
Speaker 1: think Tuah's health check at the combine is going to
Speaker 1: mean everything in the world, because that changes everything in
Speaker 1: the top five, top ten, top one. I mean that
Speaker 1: could really throw everything, throw a wrench into everything. If
Speaker 1: Tah's hip is good or bad. I mean, who knows
Speaker 1: if he would have declared if he was if he
Speaker 1: got a hey, you're not good, you should probably go
Speaker 1: back to college. But go back to college and get
Speaker 1: beat up again, or maybe I should go to the
Speaker 1: NFL now, So there's a lot of ways to think
Speaker 1: about it, and I think that's the story because I think,
Speaker 1: no matter what happens, I don't think it's clear that
Speaker 1: Burrow is ahead of Tuah if Tuah's health is good,
Speaker 1: but it's not, And don't you think that that is
Speaker 1: a pretty big red flag honestly. I mean absolutely, he's
Speaker 1: dealing with basically the Bo Jackson injury. I know it's
Speaker 1: not exactly the same. I mean, he's he has been
Speaker 1: banged up for the vast majority of his college career.
Speaker 1: He has not had a healthy season. And that's why
Speaker 1: we talk about this in six weeks after the combine
Speaker 1: and then there's a medical check and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: But what's interesting about it is like we we all
Speaker 1: went to the combine, the Jalen Smith year, and there
Speaker 1: are differing opinions on that, and there will be like
Speaker 1: there will be guys that don't have two on their board,
Speaker 1: there will be teams that are in love with them.
Speaker 1: I completely get that, But I just think there's enough
Speaker 1: of a concern there that I don't think too could
Speaker 1: possibly be in the conversation at number one overall, not
Speaker 1: with the it's the Bengals a lot of time, Dave time,
Speaker 1: I actually have a pro day a lot of time
Speaker 1: to a lot of time. Kyle asked, like, what the
Speaker 1: what is what is the hallmark for this draft? And
Speaker 1: like that's okay, So do y'all agree with me that
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm looking for where the drama is going
Speaker 1: to come from? Oh serious, Like because it doesn't. You
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna come one. It doesn't look very
Speaker 1: dramatic right now, Like, Oh, the drama is who's gonna
Speaker 1: jump up? Who likes Jordan Love, who likes Justin Herbert?
Speaker 1: Who likes too? Do you think falling to people who
Speaker 1: have their picks waiting in the teens or do people
Speaker 1: start jumping so you think you think quarter I mean,
Speaker 1: and quarterbacks dictate so much about the top of the draft,
Speaker 1: but you see that happening this year. Keeping one on
Speaker 1: the Florida teams. Miami has a pick at five and eighteen,
Speaker 1: Jacksonville's gonna pick at nine and twenty um, and you
Speaker 1: could say that both of those teams need quarterback. Possibly.
Speaker 1: Let's I mean, if we're going to real quick, Cincinnati
Speaker 1: needs a quarterback, Miami needs a quarterback. The La Chargers
Speaker 1: could draft a quarterback. Absolutely, Carolina Panthers might need a quarterback.
Speaker 1: The Jags might need a quarterback. And you're looking at
Speaker 1: that Indianapolis and because here's a quarterback Hayton on Gardner,
Speaker 1: Minshew over there, nice Hayton, I said, on our guys. Fine,
Speaker 1: the Raiders have two picks at twelve and nineteen. John
Speaker 1: Gruden could do something crazy. If you want to go
Speaker 1: get a good player, Tampa might not go be in.
Speaker 1: I mean, Bruce arians doesn't sound enamored with Um Jamis Winston.
Speaker 1: James is the thirty thirty guy. He is the one
Speaker 1: and only the only thirty thirty guy. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: kind of respect it. Frank up Or. Yeah, the Indianapolis
Speaker 1: front office doesn't sound ballard. Excuse me, thank you. Um.
Speaker 1: I just think myself, it doesn't sound sold on Jacoby
Speaker 1: Brissette being the future there They shouldn't be. Um. Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: probably has to worry about the future with Ben Roethlisberg
Speaker 1: being injured so often. So yeah, I just talked myself
Speaker 1: into quarterback being a pretty dominant storyline. As it always is.
Speaker 1: To get well and wait till Herbert and Love have
Speaker 1: a good Senior Bowl week, and then people start talking
Speaker 1: about a Jordan Love from Utah State, Herbert from Oregon.
Speaker 1: Once those guys go to the Senior Bowl, maybe those
Speaker 1: guys mump up and then always, you know, think about everything.
Speaker 1: We cover the whole draft here, but the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: picking at seventeen. So I want as many quarterbacks going
Speaker 1: and the seventeen as possible. Unless and I can hear
Speaker 1: people listening right now that they're like, unless you're not
Speaker 1: sold on dec okay, But yeah, well yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna do that today either. Yeah, I'm not gonna talk
Speaker 1: to those people. I don't have time for you people. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't have time for you people today. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, I'm Mike McCarthy made it easy for us,
Speaker 1: Like Mike McCarthy introduced as the ninth coach at the
Speaker 1: Cowboy That's something we need to get into too. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: a very exciting thing about this draft is that we
Speaker 1: it's going to be different. Yeah, it's gonna be refreshing
Speaker 1: because you can't sit here on January ninth right now
Speaker 1: and say, oh, they don't like nose tackles or oh
Speaker 1: they don't like safeties, because we have no idea who's
Speaker 1: going to be coaching those positions or who's going to
Speaker 1: be valuing that draft stock. And that's fascinating. Also with
Speaker 1: all the turnover that is inevitable, with the amount of
Speaker 1: free agents in the amount of roster that we're going
Speaker 1: to see change going into twenty twenty, there's a ton
Speaker 1: of positions you can go for. You can go defensive
Speaker 1: line in the first round. You could go with the secondary.
Speaker 1: I mean we've even thrown in quarterback. I know that's
Speaker 1: a completely separate topic. Wide receiver even then there as well,
Speaker 1: there's plenty of places you can go with a new
Speaker 1: staff kind of at the helm. I really think quarterback
Speaker 1: and running back are the only two positions that I
Speaker 1: can't imagine the Cowboys spending a draft pick on in
Speaker 1: the first round. Offensive line you could talk me into it,
Speaker 1: actually I wanted to mention that, Okay, which but I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't It would be surprising, but not like completely
Speaker 1: out of left field, because we've seen the injury issues
Speaker 1: that Tyrant Smith has dealt with. They haven't been able
Speaker 1: to nail down the left guard position. And I wanted
Speaker 1: to bring this up this it seems like a tackle
Speaker 1: heavy class, like this seems like, there are a lot
Speaker 1: of good offensive tackles. I'm not saying it would be
Speaker 1: the best thing for the Cowboys to do, but you
Speaker 1: could find yourself a swing tackle slash left tackle the future.
Speaker 1: The Eagles just did it with Andre Dillard last year.
Speaker 1: It's always awkward, though, when you draft a guy in
Speaker 1: the first round and then after the round, as we're
Speaker 1: recapping the round, we're like, well, here's the thing. You
Speaker 1: hope he never plays. Yeah, use the first round pick.
Speaker 1: Hope he never plays. Hope that your tackles are healthy.
Speaker 1: It would not be ideal, but I could make a
Speaker 1: case for it, sure, especially especially if you're picking at
Speaker 1: seventeen and he's your tenth best player in the drafts
Speaker 1: and then your next best is a running back and
Speaker 1: your next best is a you know, and you're sitting
Speaker 1: there going, okay, guys, do we really want to skip
Speaker 1: over eight? Guys like, do we want to not pick
Speaker 1: our tenth player so that we can pick our seventeenth
Speaker 1: best player who plays a position that we like. It's like,
Speaker 1: this is how we screw things up. You want to
Speaker 1: screw things up. Tackles become a position too, where he
Speaker 1: kind of gets top heavy and there's still a lot
Speaker 1: of work to do on this year's draft, but over
Speaker 1: the years we've seen struggles if you're trying to reach
Speaker 1: and plug and play or get a guy late in
Speaker 1: the draft at the offensive tackle position, I think we
Speaker 1: need to be talking about cornerbacks. Yep, but that's gonna
Speaker 1: be a corner. There's gonna be a lot of corners
Speaker 1: in this draft. You're gonna have a top two corner
Speaker 1: of safety. Probably it's gonna be a corner or Safety's
Speaker 1: in love with that. You're you're making that call eleven
Speaker 1: minutes into the first show of the year. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a corner of safety. As soon as I'm
Speaker 1: telling you. As soon as McCarthy said hie to Randall
Speaker 1: Cobb in the back of the room at the press conference,
Speaker 1: I hit the little X. I was watching a receiver
Speaker 1: and I closed it, and then I clicked over and
Speaker 1: I started watching Grant Delpit. I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: so let me just go to the secondary getting a receiver.
Speaker 1: Safety fun Chris Beam, our expert and veteran producer behind
Speaker 1: the board, please clip that out and I would like
Speaker 1: to revisit it in the coming weeks and months. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be delp it about that. Okay, so there's
Speaker 1: the cop I'm here for it now, or an LSU corner.
Speaker 1: The Tiger secondary is gonna come to Dallas now, Katie,
Speaker 1: you mentioned top heavy in terms of tackles and offensive
Speaker 1: tackles in the draft and wanted to get to this
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler from the Athletic of course one of the
Speaker 1: was he a founding member or one of the actual
Speaker 1: No Dave shouts out as Brian used to do this
Speaker 1: all the time. Brian brought us an ed K Hill,
Speaker 1: the founding members funding ed K Hill. It was his
Speaker 1: his idea, baby, it grew into this. Dane came along
Speaker 1: and uh made it the most in depth show ever.
Speaker 1: We miss you, dearly, Dane. Rest in peace to those
Speaker 1: guys we miss you dearly. Not they're not dead. They
Speaker 1: might they might even pop up on this show show.
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, special thanks to both those guys brought
Speaker 1: us and and Ed and then also uh Dane, but
Speaker 1: wanted to get into his top one say we're still
Speaker 1: going to use your work, Dane. I don't even don't
Speaker 1: get diving into it right now. But you mentioned offensive
Speaker 1: tackle Andrew Thomas, who a guy from Georgia A lot
Speaker 1: of people had very high, maybe even as the top tackle.
Speaker 1: Now in Dane's most recent update to the Top one
Speaker 1: hundred falls to the third offensive tackle, he's number twelve overall.
Speaker 1: That one kind of stood out to me. But it
Speaker 1: also it goes to what you were saying with a
Speaker 1: top heavy offensive tackle draft. There's three in the top twelve,
Speaker 1: and that's why I think the Cowboys would stay away
Speaker 1: from that at seventeen, just because, I mean, again, the
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins contract is something that happened that I didn't
Speaker 1: really foresee that was going to happen. But I think
Speaker 1: I think in the eyes of most people on my board,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at my board right now so far and
Speaker 1: again it's early. I tread lightly in January, but it's
Speaker 1: the Alabama kid Wills, it's Worth's from Iowa, and then
Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas's offensive tackle three, And there's pretty good players
Speaker 1: in the second round at offensive tackle if they wanted
Speaker 1: to mess around with that. But I just think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are gonna have so many more glaring needs, whether
Speaker 1: it's defensive front, whether it is secondary. And then, as
Speaker 1: this happens every year, thirty percent of the roster rolls over,
Speaker 1: so you know it's I have our time being real
Speaker 1: declarative in January about like what they need, because man,
Speaker 1: free agency is gonna come and become a board. I
Speaker 1: don't expect them to be heavy players in free agency,
Speaker 1: but they had a lot of things they can do.
Speaker 1: And you're gonna have a franchise tag and a transition tag,
Speaker 1: what happens with Byron, with Robert Quinn. There's so much
Speaker 1: that can happen. I enjoy starting the show this early
Speaker 1: because it allows us to you know, you got to
Speaker 1: dive as deep as possible. There's fifteen hundred freaking players
Speaker 1: that are eligible for this draft. But it's going to
Speaker 1: change so much, and it does drastically every year, Like
Speaker 1: by March twenty first, we will have completely changed our
Speaker 1: opinions on what they need or what they should do. Well,
Speaker 1: we don't know if they're a four three or three
Speaker 1: fourteen exactly. That's a which question. We don't know. And
Speaker 1: after that pressor I, if you made me guess, I
Speaker 1: would guess three four because I think it's easier to
Speaker 1: just say we're gonna do what they've been doing. That's
Speaker 1: what the roster is. But the answer was, you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see what you say. Signed to Marcus Lawrence, can
Speaker 1: you play three four? Sure you can stand up. That's
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who seem to think he
Speaker 1: can stand up. Actually I'm not necessarily one of them,
Speaker 1: but I think you can drop very often. Well's, I
Speaker 1: know what you have to do in that position. You're
Speaker 1: on A four two three four runs of four two
Speaker 1: A four three runs of four two. We're playing nickel.
Speaker 1: Everybody's playing nickel all the time. I get it. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. That's play the fun out of it, though
Speaker 1: it does take the fun out of it. But I'd
Speaker 1: like to apologize for taking the fun out of them.
Speaker 1: If they were to do that, I think it would
Speaker 1: be a more gradual transition than they're just playing three
Speaker 1: four on September tenth next year, hybrid action, a gradual
Speaker 1: transition back in there. I like it. But actually to
Speaker 1: that point, and yeah, I'm just I'm ripping off Dane's
Speaker 1: top one hundred. I love you, Dane. I'm not sorry.
Speaker 1: Looking at it, Okay, you go all the way to
Speaker 1: you know, and this obviously isn't a mock draft, but
Speaker 1: you look at the top seventeen players the Cowboys pick seventeenth.
Speaker 1: Seven of them play positions that the Cowboys probably have
Speaker 1: no interest in drafting in the first round. And if
Speaker 1: you include Clemson linebacker Isaiah Simmons, which I know he
Speaker 1: can play about eight spots, I'm interested. I didn't say
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be. I'm just saying, if you consider him
Speaker 1: a linebacker, that's probably another position the Cowboys would rather
Speaker 1: not draft him. Set you know, worry about it. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're undermining my point. I'm just saying it's my fault.
Speaker 1: There's as many as eight guys that they would say, ah,
Speaker 1: we can live without him, and that's really encouraging. It's
Speaker 1: even more encouraging. And I'm not trying to be a
Speaker 1: homer for Grant Delpit. But again, if this was last year,
Speaker 1: I would say, they're not gonna draft a safety in
Speaker 1: the first round. Are you crazy? They don't do that?
Speaker 1: But they might this year, and I know can't tell
Speaker 1: me that they definitely won't. So Grant Delpit from LSU
Speaker 1: his twenty nineteen tape ass awarts on it. You won
Speaker 1: the Thorpe Award, Katie. He's the best I know. I
Speaker 1: know he had not earn the Thorpe Award, but it was.
Speaker 1: It was a lifetime achievement award. It's a lot of
Speaker 1: mission should have won it last year, but you dive
Speaker 1: into a little bit of what's going on with him,
Speaker 1: and he had a shoulder injury. Dude, when you don't
Speaker 1: have range of motion in your shoulder, it's very hard
Speaker 1: to wrap up at running backs. Like the mistackles. You
Speaker 1: would see it and go, okay, yeah, you'd like for
Speaker 1: that to be better. I watched some twenty eighteen tape
Speaker 1: on him. He's not missing those same tackles he was
Speaker 1: missing in twenty nineteen. I would advise anyone that's down
Speaker 1: incredible on Grant delpit a watch his twenty eighteen tape
Speaker 1: and then watch his games against Georgia and Oklahoma LSU's
Speaker 1: two most recent games. He's still pretty damn good. He
Speaker 1: can play. He's really good, and he deserves to be
Speaker 1: top half of the first round consideration still in my
Speaker 1: opinion now seventeen. Again, we did this a few years ago.
Speaker 1: It's way different players and not comparing the two. We
Speaker 1: saw Derwin James slide just because the league didn't seem
Speaker 1: to value that position very much. But Derwin James can
Speaker 1: do everything. Strong safety, free safety, you know, wears him
Speaker 1: the right way nowhere. He was drafted exactly a seven
Speaker 1: and we were the Cowboys, were were nineteenth at the time.
Speaker 1: A lot of people wanted him to trade up Layton
Speaker 1: Vander esh injury plagued second season. I still think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be okay, But I would argue I think Derwin
Speaker 1: James is a better college prospect than Grant Delpit. Do
Speaker 1: you agree? I agree, yeah, yes, and they and he
Speaker 1: felt seventeen, so he filled a seventeen. It's a very
Speaker 1: realistic scenario. So I'm picking him. He'll be there. Okay,
Speaker 1: He's gonna be there. In safety class is better this
Speaker 1: year than it's been in years past. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: some names. The Alabama guy, Zavier McKinney's gonna come to mind.
Speaker 1: Ashton Davis California. I love man. I think he's like
Speaker 1: him a lot. Second round pick, and you're picking in
Speaker 1: the middle of the second round. I mean, if that's
Speaker 1: the area you want to go. But this team had
Speaker 1: a chance to get a safety last year in the
Speaker 1: second and he's playing in the playoffs. He's probably gonna
Speaker 1: make a play on Saturday wan Thornhill or Sunday, whatever,
Speaker 1: damn day they makes a play. Every time you watch
Speaker 1: the Chief, you're gonna hear his name Colts too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fine. It's fine, guys, because it's it's not fine. Hey,
Speaker 1: it's not fine. The Cowboys will pick twice this spring
Speaker 1: before their first pick last year. But will they be
Speaker 1: zeroed in on who they're picking already before they get
Speaker 1: to the pick, or will they actually pick the best
Speaker 1: player available. That's where it thinks things have changed because
Speaker 1: we don't know. Tell, Yeah, we don't know. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm just asking the question because I'm I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to make sure our process is sound here. It's weird
Speaker 1: because Jerry Stephen, Will McClay, we well know they're still
Speaker 1: in the mix. It's very unpredictable now, especially when the coaches,
Speaker 1: many coaches of changes we had, like some of these
Speaker 1: coaching hires aren't officially yet, so I want to comment
Speaker 1: too much on any of these things. But yeah, but
Speaker 1: the names you're hearing, Yeah, you're hearing a lot of
Speaker 1: experienced names, a lot of guys with a lot of
Speaker 1: skins on the wall. I mean, I'm excited and you're right,
Speaker 1: a lot of the same decision makers are still in place.
Speaker 1: The scouting department is going to be more or less
Speaker 1: the same. But you can't assume anything right now. You
Speaker 1: can't assume any of the storylines or any of the
Speaker 1: tendencies that you were used to from years pass. Well,
Speaker 1: let's think about this, Jason. I don't know how much
Speaker 1: say he had in the draft room, but Jason and
Speaker 1: his coaches, we at least could kind of have the
Speaker 1: idea of, yeah, they might have a little bit of saying,
Speaker 1: who's picking these players? McCarthy. I don't know how he's
Speaker 1: going to be after those years in Green Bay, but
Speaker 1: he comes from a place where he didn't have a
Speaker 1: lot of say in the draft room and he was
Speaker 1: kind of boxed out. And to me, that's fascinating and
Speaker 1: I hope that he's comfortable about that. And like, but
Speaker 1: I guess Jet scouts at the scouts and will McClay
Speaker 1: just go pick the players? We're good to jest point,
Speaker 1: it's you're right. I think the coaches here had a
Speaker 1: lot of say too, Rod Marinelli, Tristan Hill written all
Speaker 1: over him, like, and we always used to joke on
Speaker 1: this show like wait till late March early April, and
Speaker 1: you can hear the narrative change when the coaches start
Speaker 1: watching tape. And it happened last year and Chris Richard
Speaker 1: was part of it too. He was like, we don't
Speaker 1: need the safety, give us the defensive tackle. So that
Speaker 1: is fascinating Moore. It felt like that was absolutely the
Speaker 1: coaches have sway here and you're right, and Mike McCarthy's
Speaker 1: not used to that, and I wonder what that dynamic
Speaker 1: is going to be like with an entirely new coaching staff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's another factor. It's not even just a fact
Speaker 1: of having that say, but also just the unfamiliar side
Speaker 1: of having a completely new staff around you and having
Speaker 1: that kind of camarader reacher to be able to agree
Speaker 1: on a pick come April. We'll get into that a
Speaker 1: little bit more coming up in our third segment later
Speaker 1: in the hour, but we're gonna take a quick break
Speaker 1: when we I'm back Twitter on the twenty returns from
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. You guys have been sending us questions throughout
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Speaker 1: So the first one I kind of want to go
Speaker 1: with is we talked a little bit about safeties and
Speaker 1: who's going to be Avai come pick seventeen for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and we had I'm having trouble finding the actual tweet,
Speaker 1: but somebody this morning, very early was ready for the
Speaker 1: draft show and they asked, would you rather have one
Speaker 1: of the safeties in the first round at seventeen or
Speaker 1: trade that pick for Jamal Adams. Now, I feel like
Speaker 1: this is a common question that has been thrown out
Speaker 1: there recently, really as the Cowboys fell to seventeen. Is
Speaker 1: that realistic in your eyes? Is it realistic? Probably? Probably
Speaker 1: if you could get a Mark Juft, No, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: do it. And I'm a gigantic Ellis hue Homer. I
Speaker 1: love Jamal Adams. I think the world of him, but
Speaker 1: it's just it's cap resources at this point. Because this
Speaker 1: is a team that's going to have to pay a
Speaker 1: bunch of big contracts out Dak Prescott and Mary Cooper.
Speaker 1: They're going to have to sign some other free agents,
Speaker 1: and Jamal Adams is eligible to renegotiate now. He could
Speaker 1: do that right now if he wanted to. He finished
Speaker 1: his third season last week or two weeks ago. And
Speaker 1: I just don't like the idea of immediately having to
Speaker 1: pay a guy. Like the beauty of a first round
Speaker 1: pick is that you get four, if not five years
Speaker 1: of very cheap production, hopefully at a Pro Bowl level.
Speaker 1: You're not getting that with Jamal Adams. They're already they
Speaker 1: already didn't get that with a Mariy Cooper. I don't
Speaker 1: like the idea of having to do that twice. I
Speaker 1: could not have entered that better myself. I mean, Dave
Speaker 1: said Zach Potting. Yeah, no, Dave said that exactly. Now.
Speaker 1: Jeff is the wild card. These two are cowards. I'd
Speaker 1: like to announce right now that I also am a coward.
Speaker 1: Yeah they're good. You're gonna look up like you look up.
Speaker 1: It's like how much cap space to the covers? I
Speaker 1: was like, well, they could roll over this much and
Speaker 1: they got eighty million dollars and oh am, I goodness,
Speaker 1: they have so much money and it's like, wait, you
Speaker 1: haven't accounted for and just go down the list. Do
Speaker 1: you like Robert Quinn, you like Dak you like Marie
Speaker 1: Cooper and all these different guys and the like, even
Speaker 1: the guys that they've recently given the big deals to.
Speaker 1: They're big numbers haven't even hit yet. They're about to, right,
Speaker 1: and it's like, I get the temptation, but you would
Speaker 1: have to basically sign them on a credit card. You'd
Speaker 1: have to you would have to start sneaky. The sneaky
Speaker 1: storyline here is the pressure is on this front office
Speaker 1: to draft really well. And I've seen you talk about
Speaker 1: this on Twitter, Jeff. But they've been good more often
Speaker 1: than bad since Will McClay took over in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: but their hit rate hasn't been perfect, and it's going
Speaker 1: to catch up with them with all these contracts that
Speaker 1: they have to pay out. Sure, because you need to
Speaker 1: get cheap production. If you're going to be paying top
Speaker 1: of the line salaries to half of your starting roster
Speaker 1: and giving away first round pick to a guy that's
Speaker 1: going to need a new contract very soon is just
Speaker 1: not a great way to accomplish that goal. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: this was the most courageous act of cowardice I've ever
Speaker 1: seen because with the Jamal Adams being tantalizing over there,
Speaker 1: we all did the right thing right there. But if
Speaker 1: I can I mean, I don't even and I love
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams. I just if I can get and we'll
Speaker 1: just use Grant Delpit because we're already talking about him.
Speaker 1: If I can get Grant Delpit for five years at
Speaker 1: a fraction of the cost, why wouldn't I do that?
Speaker 1: Do you think? Because he will be a better play.
Speaker 1: He could be, and I even remotely close to Jamal
Speaker 1: Adams though, I mean, it's tough to tell. It's draft.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a gamble. Regardless, I think Jamal, I mean,
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams was a better player coming out of school.
Speaker 1: Delpots tape is good, it is, and that's that's the
Speaker 1: crazy thing is Jamal Adams went top five. Derwin James
Speaker 1: is I mean, I know he's spent a lot of
Speaker 1: this year hurt, but Derwin James is comparable and he
Speaker 1: fell to seventeen. I think Grant Delpit could be a
Speaker 1: comparable player. And that's why I'm I'm comfortable not taking
Speaker 1: that risk. It's all. The only question with him is
Speaker 1: tackling the range. Is there the instincts are there. He
Speaker 1: can blitz off the edge, he can cover anywhere you
Speaker 1: ask him to cover. Tackling is the only issue, and
Speaker 1: he was hurt this year. I trust the fact. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying Delpot's gonna be Adams, but I'm saying I
Speaker 1: have no problem if that's where things fall, and he's
Speaker 1: my best player at seventeen, I will take him because
Speaker 1: he The tape is good for him on a two
Speaker 1: year scale. You have to go back and you have
Speaker 1: to watch him twenty eighteen tape on him, but it
Speaker 1: is good. The Cowboys have n't picked this high since
Speaker 1: they drafted Zeke and then Zach Martin in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: Like they've been picking in the twenties for a lot
Speaker 1: of the time, and it's it hasn't worked out that
Speaker 1: well for him. Like when they were back at the
Speaker 1: end of the first round they picked Tacco when they
Speaker 1: didn't have a first round pick, they picked Tristan Hill.
Speaker 1: I like the idea of giving them not a great
Speaker 1: first round pick, but as good as they've had in
Speaker 1: a while, have first round, they'll have a first round
Speaker 1: graded guy. Yeah, exactly. That's not true when you're picking
Speaker 1: in the twenties most well not most time. It sometimes
Speaker 1: like if you're picking at twenty seven or whatever, you Taco,
Speaker 1: wasn't a first round graded right? Exactly? Like there will
Speaker 1: be mature and hit that little button. I thought it
Speaker 1: was a hold down the radio professional in the room. Well,
Speaker 1: the radio professional are cough button. You have to hold
Speaker 1: it to cough and then you just let it go.
Speaker 1: This one's a tapper, so you have to tap it.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Charles Tapper. So anyway, what I was
Speaker 1: saying for a long time while no one could hear,
Speaker 1: is if you're picking at seventeen, you can almost guarantee
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are going to have a first round graded
Speaker 1: player to pick. Yeah, unless they pick for need instead
Speaker 1: of the best player. You're worried about that, aren't you.
Speaker 1: I I'm terrified about that. There's a reason that we
Speaker 1: gave you the Layton Vanderish picked way before it happened.
Speaker 1: There's a reason we gave you the Tristan Hill pick
Speaker 1: way before it happened because we knew who they were taking.
Speaker 1: Because if you follow the bread trail correctly, you can
Speaker 1: find out who they're taking. But that's always been true,
Speaker 1: and that was the same. I mean, Zack Martin was
Speaker 1: on a short list the year they picked him. Byron
Speaker 1: Jones was on a shortlist the year they picked him. Like,
Speaker 1: they're always going to identify guys that they love who
Speaker 1: fit a need. But Byron, we were crossing off names
Speaker 1: as we went, and I believe it was Philadelphia picked
Speaker 1: Aglar and we started high fiving where Cowboys can get
Speaker 1: Byron like those to me, when if everybody's high fiving
Speaker 1: about it, that's different than well, that's who they're taking.
Speaker 1: I just feel like there's always going to be a
Speaker 1: shortlist of guys they love that fit their needs, because
Speaker 1: I mean that's the biggest myth in the draft right,
Speaker 1: Like everybody's drafting for need. Otherwise you would I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, if the best running back in the draft,
Speaker 1: if DeAndre Swift fell to them them, let's go, they
Speaker 1: would draft him. But they won't do that. We know
Speaker 1: they won't. Let no stop it. Okay, I have nineteen
Speaker 1: first round graded players right now, and that it's still
Speaker 1: working through the million wide receivers in this draft. So
Speaker 1: nineteen wide receivers, you've gotten there. Three I think you
Speaker 1: get it right. I just I really like their odds
Speaker 1: of finding a player they love who is also deserving
Speaker 1: of that pick at seventeen. I agree because I think
Speaker 1: this year we'll end up talking about Alabama corner, LSU corner,
Speaker 1: Florida corner, and we'll be going then grant help at
Speaker 1: Nixavier McKinney, the Alabama safety, and like r we're gonna
Speaker 1: have there's probably gonna be a secondary player from LSU
Speaker 1: or Alabama with a first round right in the face.
Speaker 1: Everything else off edge rushers. Don't concern you. Let me
Speaker 1: do this because yeah, we've answered. We've answered one question.
Speaker 1: Tweeted at us and said, with the possibilities, of course
Speaker 1: of moving to three four edge rushers, anybody kind of
Speaker 1: stand out to you early on that could potentially fill
Speaker 1: those needs for the Cowboys. I love Terrell Us from Alabama,
Speaker 1: but he is another Alabama guy who's gonna need medical
Speaker 1: recheck action. Gosh, but he is. You get beat up
Speaker 1: in Alabama, You get beat up in Alabama. They play
Speaker 1: it hard at Alabama. But man, he is And if
Speaker 1: you're moving to a three four, he probably makes more
Speaker 1: sense than a three four because he's undersized, isn't pulling
Speaker 1: up my notes to get his weight right? There right
Speaker 1: now at two fifty eight. Right now, we'll see what
Speaker 1: it turns out. Now he had been hurt, but he's
Speaker 1: hurt his knee. He tore his ACL in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: But when you go watch the tape this year, you're
Speaker 1: sitting there watching just a guy with long arms and
Speaker 1: the juice around the end. I mean, Terrell Lewis is
Speaker 1: the guy that would make me go, Okay, well, don't
Speaker 1: worry about Robert Quinn now, just let him be a
Speaker 1: free agent. I mean he is a freak and he's
Speaker 1: very fun. If you go watch this tape, he's very fun.
Speaker 1: The speed rusher dynamic to go to pair with DeMarcus Lawrence,
Speaker 1: I love that seventeen Maybe early because there are health questions, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but man Terrell Lewis is very very interesting. Do you sorry?
Speaker 1: Go ahead? What if you failed to fifty one? Though?
Speaker 1: Is there is there any chance of him fallowing the
Speaker 1: ficial with pass rushers? I just don't think he falls
Speaker 1: that far. Okay, I mean again early because he's like
Speaker 1: mid thirties right now. Maybe. I mean I have a
Speaker 1: first on my board and I'm different, so I have
Speaker 1: a first round grade on him. He is my third
Speaker 1: best pass rusher in this draft. Wow, um, it's Chase Young.
Speaker 1: It's aj Epinessa from Iowa. Yeah, who's more of a
Speaker 1: you know, he's a heavier guy's he's a really good
Speaker 1: run player, less of a speed rusher off the edge.
Speaker 1: Terrell Lewis is kind of that week side defensive end
Speaker 1: just get around the edge, the birsty guy, and that
Speaker 1: was fine and long. It's just there's a lot to
Speaker 1: work with there. And I think he makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense whether they're in a four three or well. See,
Speaker 1: I mean Jeff already said he has a suspicion they
Speaker 1: go three four and you and I think that maybe
Speaker 1: even if they did that, it wouldn't be right now,
Speaker 1: which yeh, I don't if they were too draft and
Speaker 1: edge rusher, and that would be curious. I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: that is there anybody else that fits that bill? Because
Speaker 1: I aj Epinessa Iowa and then the other one is
Speaker 1: yet to gross Smatos from Penn State. Neither one of
Speaker 1: those guys really strike me as rush linebackers. No, I
Speaker 1: don't say that with Matos, but I think Matos is
Speaker 1: closer to that than Epinessa, just because he's a little
Speaker 1: bit lighter, you know, But I mean when you start
Speaker 1: to look at like epinessa is a pure four three guy,
Speaker 1: he's going to be a fourth run strong defensive and
Speaker 1: he's a better run defender than he is a pass
Speaker 1: rusher to be honest, m but he's an overall really
Speaker 1: good player. I mean, there, you go to second round,
Speaker 1: there's some names there, and do those guys start to
Speaker 1: shoot up the board just because of the lack of
Speaker 1: la rushing. But I swear to God, I'm not doing
Speaker 1: this because I went to LSU. Have you watched Calevan
Speaker 1: Chason yet? Yes? I have, because that's a I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a three four guy all the way, and he is.
Speaker 1: He makes a lot of sense. But I like Terrell
Speaker 1: Lewis way more than I like him. Yeah, I have Chase,
Speaker 1: I've got me. I've got a second round grade on Jason.
Speaker 1: I think Chason is purely like an athleticism pick. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean his production has been fine this year, but like,
Speaker 1: if you're drafting him, it's on the upside more than
Speaker 1: what he's done. I think that's a position they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to look at, though, because what happens if you
Speaker 1: don't bring Robert Quinn Back and DeMarcus Lawrence gets hurt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: or anything happens Dawrence and Joe Jackson and whatever. Tyrone
Speaker 1: Crawford might be able to offer you, depending on his
Speaker 1: health and his contract status. Yeah, I mean, much like cornerback.
Speaker 1: That's a sneaky need depending on what you do in
Speaker 1: free agents, much like d tackle, not much like safety.
Speaker 1: Who's gonna play defense for this team? Well, the defensive
Speaker 1: tackle right now, you would have exclusive rights free agent
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods and Tristan Hill. That's your d tackles to
Speaker 1: work to do. They got a lot of work to do.
Speaker 1: But you get to spend money too. You don't just
Speaker 1: have to draft any more. Questions, Kyle, Yeah, So Braun asked,
Speaker 1: and this is the question of the questions, especially for you.
Speaker 1: He said, what are the chances, if any, that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys let Amari Cooper walk and hope that lamb Rugs
Speaker 1: or Judy fall to seven. Well, that would not be
Speaker 1: my dream. My dream involves dropping forty burgers. Which the way, yeah,
Speaker 1: the way that you do that is you tag Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper and you draft a receiver in the first round.
Speaker 1: But that would put Randall Cobb on the bench. So
Speaker 1: like now, I just I don't know if it'll make sense.
Speaker 1: He could be your punt returner slash spot duty fourth receiver,
Speaker 1: much like Tavon Austin. Yeah, but there's there's a better
Speaker 1: role in the NFL for Randall Cobb than that. You're right,
Speaker 1: he's he deserves to be a starter. So I old
Speaker 1: team would lack him back right now, there you go.
Speaker 1: So um, I guess it would require saying, you know what,
Speaker 1: we want to save our eighteen to twenty million dollars
Speaker 1: a year, We're gonna move on from Mary Cooper. And
Speaker 1: that's dangerous business because for all of the questions and
Speaker 1: I do have questions that shopped up the last three
Speaker 1: or four weeks of the year, he's still saved your
Speaker 1: season a year before that, and he's still an eleven
Speaker 1: hundred yard guy that helped probably your other guy get
Speaker 1: eleven hundred yards. I can't. I do think there are
Speaker 1: two guys in this draft that you would not be
Speaker 1: insane if you said, I think as a rookie they're
Speaker 1: gonna have a thousand yards Judy and who probably Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think those two have legitimate chance to be number
Speaker 1: one receivers really quickly. Why do you leave Rugs off
Speaker 1: that list? I mean, he's college production when you have
Speaker 1: seven hundred yards this year, Yeah, I mean I love
Speaker 1: the speed, and I think that's why he goes in
Speaker 1: the first round because the rest of the traits aren't
Speaker 1: like for him, You're just going to focus on the
Speaker 1: dude's gonna run a four two. He's gonna run a
Speaker 1: four to two. He outruns angles. He's a freak show,
Speaker 1: and that gives him a chance to catch back shoulder
Speaker 1: fades and slants with huge opportunities because people are bailing. Um.
Speaker 1: But those other guys, you're talking about everything you want
Speaker 1: from a receiver, strength after catch, balance, we're out running
Speaker 1: catch point, and with Rugs it's more well. Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: scores really long touchdowns and he'll get to do it too.
Speaker 1: Can Rugs turn or not as well as Judy and Lambs?
Speaker 1: Not as well as those guys. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: but because he's busy going much faster, he just catches
Speaker 1: the ball and looks around and goes, Okay, none of
Speaker 1: you can catch me. I'll go that way. And I
Speaker 1: think that's why I was seven hundred yards. Who was
Speaker 1: the third receiver on his own team is going to
Speaker 1: go in the first round because that speed is game changing.
Speaker 1: If you don't want to sign Amari Cooper long term,
Speaker 1: that's fine. I understand your reservations. But I can't imagine
Speaker 1: this team being even as good as they were last year,
Speaker 1: which wasn't that good by the way, without him. That's
Speaker 1: the problem. I think. I go back to what Jerry
Speaker 1: said about when our buddy Bryan was asking him on
Speaker 1: the radio. He asked him about what all goes into
Speaker 1: the guys you signed to, and he's part of his
Speaker 1: answer was I think about what's the worst case scenario
Speaker 1: if I don't And the worst case scenario without a
Speaker 1: Mari is not nearly as scary as the worst case
Speaker 1: scenario without Dak or anything. But it is scary if
Speaker 1: you went, well, Michael Gallup, it turns out can't get
Speaker 1: eleven hundred yards as the number one guy. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not ready to put that pressure on him, right, So
Speaker 1: the worst case is somewhat scary. So in Jerry's own words,
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper is probably gonna be here. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: Amari and Dhaker here very few, if any questions asked.
Speaker 1: All Right, one more question, This is from Hyatt. Is
Speaker 1: this a trade up kind of draft or a trade
Speaker 1: back kind of draft? If you're Dallas at seventy, all right,
Speaker 1: who do you trade like? Who do you trade up for?
Speaker 1: Okuda would be a guy that you would trade up.
Speaker 1: All State Corner might go top five, and I would
Speaker 1: say I would throw Derek Brown, the defensive tackle from Auburn,
Speaker 1: would be in the mix there, because I think that's
Speaker 1: a game changer. And there's another guy who could play
Speaker 1: four three or three four. You talk about like we
Speaker 1: are not knowing what's going to happen. If the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys traded up for a defensive tackle, I don't care
Speaker 1: who it is. It could be, could be a Dominican sue.
Speaker 1: That would be nuts. And that's the thing I mean, Okay,
Speaker 1: I like both of those names a lot. I'd love
Speaker 1: if both of them could play on this defense. But
Speaker 1: and okay, I mean the Cowboys trade up for Mo
Speaker 1: claiborne not that long ago. You don't have to trade
Speaker 1: up for a quarterback like that is always the common theme.
Speaker 1: But I still I just like I just said, like
Speaker 1: I just I'm looking at these names and I feel
Speaker 1: so confident that a great player will be there at seventeen.
Speaker 1: It would have to be something wild to make me
Speaker 1: think they would do that, And I'm counting on I
Speaker 1: reserve the right to change my mind as I learn
Speaker 1: more about this draft. But you're locked in counting jeff
Speaker 1: in earlier because he's named a name. He said this
Speaker 1: is who they're gonna draft. I just want to see
Speaker 1: if he's right. Help it. Yeah, that'd be fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have a problem with Delpa there. But is
Speaker 1: there an edge rusher that you love enough that you
Speaker 1: would trade up from seventeen? I mean not counting Chase Young. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Chase Young's the guy I think I'm trading up. That's
Speaker 1: not happening. EPINESSA. I don't think I'm doing that. I
Speaker 1: think I'll see if he can fall to me. But
Speaker 1: you know, I think what you said about Okuda's right.
Speaker 1: I mean Okuda is probably we're talking about a gap
Speaker 1: potentially could be a top five. You kind of get
Speaker 1: marsha On Latimore type vibes. I mean, he does not
Speaker 1: get beaten coverage. The draw is a good man coverage corner.
Speaker 1: Is the drop off so severe that you would trade
Speaker 1: up and give up something valuable instead of just taking
Speaker 1: Trevon Diggs or Christian Fulton at seventeen. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: collect as many picks as possible. I think that's the
Speaker 1: way to go. And I think in this draft you're
Speaker 1: you do have potential that some other quarterbacks join. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I just think you're going to get position players
Speaker 1: to fall to where you're picking. The eleventh, twelve, thirteen
Speaker 1: is gonna channel. I'm gonna channel my guy brought us
Speaker 1: and just be like, let the board come to me,
Speaker 1: Let the board, let the draft come to me. Now,
Speaker 1: you know, let's see where we're at in two much
Speaker 1: because January ninth thinks you're going to change. The Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl is gonna be huge for for a lot of
Speaker 1: those quarterbacks, some of them Jordan Love and Justin Herbert specifically.
Speaker 1: That is going to be so huge for them because
Speaker 1: I guarantee you maybe because he's not a first round pick,
Speaker 1: he's skyrocket as much as I don't think. I mean,
Speaker 1: but it would, but it'll be big for him. I
Speaker 1: think going into it, most people are gonna look at
Speaker 1: him like, you can't throw? Would you trade up for
Speaker 1: Simmons the Clemson linebacker? If you're not up on names yet.
Speaker 1: But if you're listening to this, I bet you are.
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons is awesome, awesome, and I don't think you
Speaker 1: even have to identify what he is no like, because
Speaker 1: if if you get Layton vander esh back at full strength,
Speaker 1: okay uh, and then you can play as AA Simmons
Speaker 1: as a safety, as a as a slot strong safety,
Speaker 1: nickel linebacker or whatever anywhere. He cover every He's He's
Speaker 1: one of these modern age football players where it's like
Speaker 1: he can basically play everything in the back seven except
Speaker 1: for boundary quir I have I don't know if I
Speaker 1: have faith in that now. In the old regime, I
Speaker 1: did not have faith in them using that player the
Speaker 1: right way. Yeah, but it's it's a beautiful day from
Speaker 1: the last. That's from the last regime. That's a Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett thing. Oh he were doing. It's a new day.
Speaker 1: Yes it is. Yeah, I'm intrigued by that. I still
Speaker 1: I can't. On January ninth, I would be surprised if
Speaker 1: there was somebody they wanted to trade up for. No
Speaker 1: trade up, so stay put, no trade Um. I would
Speaker 1: if anything, vote trade trade back to twenty five because
Speaker 1: if we lose our ones what if you lose your
Speaker 1: round graded player, don't trade away from a first round
Speaker 1: graded player. That's the fun of it. Yeah, maybe you've
Speaker 1: got twenty one first round graded players. You get to
Speaker 1: seventeen and you've still got like six of them left,
Speaker 1: and you're like, hey, we can we can dance. Well,
Speaker 1: the Raiders picked twice in that area too, and they'll
Speaker 1: draft some guys who are like way ahead of when
Speaker 1: they should probably draft. They'll draft a bad player early,
Speaker 1: So I also do that. Look, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: teams in front of you too, that historically it makes
Speaker 1: some weird draft decisions. So like, I think you could
Speaker 1: just sit there and maybe some second third round players
Speaker 1: get taken in front of you. It's my memory bad.
Speaker 1: They Okay, they didn't have a pick last year. They
Speaker 1: gave it away for Mary. They haven't traded away from
Speaker 1: their first round spot since twenty thirteen. They did it
Speaker 1: in back to back years, they traded back for Frederick
Speaker 1: and up for Mokay, they have not done it since.
Speaker 1: I don't believe. I don't think they'd do it again.
Speaker 1: I think they'll sit there and it'd be a weird
Speaker 1: spot to trade out of. Yeah, because I think you're
Speaker 1: sitting right towards the end of your first round graded players,
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna want to You're not gonna want
Speaker 1: to move from that. It'd be a bigger risk to
Speaker 1: trade back rather than even the amount that you could
Speaker 1: trade up for that. It's a draft. Were some areas
Speaker 1: that you need and that's the fun of it. Guys,
Speaker 1: like go back a couple of years. You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're back here at twenty seven. We're right at the
Speaker 1: edge of like the cutoff is right there, Like where's
Speaker 1: Tach McKinley. We need him. But you're right in the
Speaker 1: thick of it at seventeen. I mean, it would be
Speaker 1: more fun if they were twelve, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: But you're right in the thick of where all the
Speaker 1: good players are. And I know we gotta get to
Speaker 1: the third segment real quickly. I just want to say
Speaker 1: it was a lot like that Zach Martin draft where
Speaker 1: I know Johnny Manzel got a lot of the headlines,
Speaker 1: but Ryan Shazier he falls to us. Maybe that's the guy.
Speaker 1: Maybe Zach Martin's the guy here. Maybe it's Javon Kinlaw,
Speaker 1: maybe it's Delpus, Maybe it's one of the corners. Super
Speaker 1: excited about pilities. Yeah, there's a lot of possibilities and
Speaker 1: we'll talk about a little bit more of that. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go into some of the position needs of guys
Speaker 1: who will or will not be here free agency wise,
Speaker 1: kind of like we talked about with Amari Cooper and
Speaker 1: the wide receivers. Just a moment ago, that was Twitter
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Speaker 1: you've joined us our first show of twenty twenty. Crazy
Speaker 1: to think that we are already in the middle of
Speaker 1: draft coverage. You're looking the wrong way. It's over. It's
Speaker 1: over in that direction. Came to corner. Yeah, there's like
Speaker 1: nine of them in here. But we we've talked a
Speaker 1: lot about the Cowboys and exactly what positions they want
Speaker 1: to talk about and where they want to go in
Speaker 1: terms of the first round. But really as a draft
Speaker 1: as a whole, I want to get into to McCarthy
Speaker 1: and how things are going to change. We've talked about
Speaker 1: four three verses three four what could potentially change defensively,
Speaker 1: But is there any shift on the offensive side of
Speaker 1: the football that Mike McCarthy and this new staff could
Speaker 1: potentially employee going into this draft. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I know enough about McCarthy for a lot, but he
Speaker 1: didn't even have the input Kevin Turner probably does. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he didn't have the input. That is a good point.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to see that they're bringing in Joe Philbin
Speaker 1: as the offensive line coach, and he same type of
Speaker 1: zone type scheme, likes to get the offensive lineman moving,
Speaker 1: pulling guards, things like that. He used kind of this
Speaker 1: offensive lineman's athleticism for a couple more years as they
Speaker 1: are aging kind of slowly. You know what happened with
Speaker 1: McCarthy's offense is it changed so much over the years,
Speaker 1: and it was so much of it let the quarterback
Speaker 1: handle it at the line of scrimmage type of thing,
Speaker 1: which caused some chaos in Green Bay. But you didn't
Speaker 1: see as much route combinations that you would want to
Speaker 1: see here of like crossers and traffic and things like
Speaker 1: that over the middle. So and you saw it in
Speaker 1: his last few years in Green Bay, saw a team
Speaker 1: get away from running the football. They got behind a lot.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much is going to change. I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna see a guy wh used two running
Speaker 1: backs a lot. He's not going to force a tight
Speaker 1: end on the field, which we've seen here quite a bit.
Speaker 1: He won't do that. He's all about using three wide receivers.
Speaker 1: Two running backs, four wide receivers, five wide receivers, don't
Speaker 1: see sets. That's oh. I mean you, you, as somebody
Speaker 1: who has followed the Packers, would be a good person
Speaker 1: to ask, like, should you buy more into the idea
Speaker 1: that you know Eddie Lacy was a dynamic, league leading
Speaker 1: type of running back eleven twelve hundred yards, scored twenty
Speaker 1: four touchdowns in two years. Or the last impression of
Speaker 1: the Mike McCarthy Packers, which is that they got away
Speaker 1: from the running game all the time, I would say neither.
Speaker 1: Go back to the year they won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Their running backs were Ryan Grant and Brandon Jackson, and
Speaker 1: they found a way they used the run as more
Speaker 1: of a get your four or five yards to make
Speaker 1: things manageable. Now, whether that's running the ball in first
Speaker 1: down or second down doesn't matter, but it's almost like
Speaker 1: they use the run to set up the pass at
Speaker 1: all times. It's never one of those things where it's like, Hey,
Speaker 1: we're really going to come and dominate you at the
Speaker 1: running game, and that's kind of what we've been asking for.
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of people who may not
Speaker 1: feel that way, especially how this year went. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be that type of team says, well,
Speaker 1: this is what we do, we run the ball. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's going to happen. Another thing, I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit and I hear what you're saying, Like the
Speaker 1: Packers seem like they've been four wide for years because
Speaker 1: they win with Aaron Rodgers. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: it hasn't necessarily worked. But like they've put resources into
Speaker 1: tight end. I mean, they brought in Jimmy Graham, they
Speaker 1: brought in Martellis Bennett before him, they had Jeremichael Finley
Speaker 1: for the longest time. Yeah, they drafted Jay Sternberger last year.
Speaker 1: I don't think he was hurt. He hadn't had a
Speaker 1: chance to make a big impact. But it seems like
Speaker 1: a position that they've tried to address. Yeah, they tried,
Speaker 1: and you know what they used. You know, jer Michael
Speaker 1: Finley was used as you know, a kind of a
Speaker 1: chess piece though, a matchup guy. You know, here you
Speaker 1: had Witten and you kind of know that he's not
Speaker 1: gonna be a matchup guy. Jarwin could be that matchup
Speaker 1: guy that you could use here and there, And I
Speaker 1: think it'll be interesting. I think the way that they
Speaker 1: use some of those formations will be way different than
Speaker 1: what we've seen. But it'll be interesting to see if
Speaker 1: Kellen stays and how much input he has. You know,
Speaker 1: if Mike McCarthy does have say in the draft room,
Speaker 1: they're going to be looking for something offensively, I would imagine,
Speaker 1: Or does he have say in free agency and that's
Speaker 1: where Randall cop comes back into play and all those
Speaker 1: types of things. He'll try to keep Randall Cop here
Speaker 1: if he's got to say, well, and a lot of
Speaker 1: people are looking at maybe a third or a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick, looking at a tight end, and you talk
Speaker 1: about the fact of wanting two running backs, three wide
Speaker 1: receivers on the field not necessarily forcing a tight end.
Speaker 1: Does that mean they stay put in terms of Blake
Speaker 1: Jarwin and Dalton Schultz see what they have. They're assuming
Speaker 1: that Witton retires. That's not, of course an official thing
Speaker 1: by any means. But if he's done, do they stick
Speaker 1: with Jarwin and don't waste a pick on tight end?
Speaker 1: If McCarthy's at the helm, I don't think they would
Speaker 1: do that either, even whether McCarthy was here or not.
Speaker 1: I think you would try to stick it out with Jarwin,
Speaker 1: maybe try to fill a gap and free agency or
Speaker 1: late in the draft, because let's face it, there's some bigger,
Speaker 1: bigger holes to fills. Are set it done. Once the
Speaker 1: roster starts rolling over, there's gonna be some bigger issues
Speaker 1: at play than tight end. This might be a lucky
Speaker 1: I get. I say lucky because by the virtue of
Speaker 1: who's coming out, like, it doesn't sound like there's a
Speaker 1: first round tight end like this is not the Noah
Speaker 1: t J Hockinson and Noah fan draft. Yeah, the Washington guy,
Speaker 1: the Washington guys, my top right tight end guy. I
Speaker 1: will say since Cole Commit commit coming out, he's coming
Speaker 1: out and that just now happened in the last couple
Speaker 1: of days, so I haven't watched him yet. And Hunter
Speaker 1: Bryant from Washington. Hunter Bryant from Washington, I like, and
Speaker 1: I think your your comp there is maybe a poor
Speaker 1: man's Evan Ingram type guy because he's a matchup guy.
Speaker 1: He's not an inline blocker type. Well that's what I
Speaker 1: want he is. I don't match up. I'm over. I'm
Speaker 1: over the traditional use of the tight end. I want
Speaker 1: to tight end who can line up in the slot.
Speaker 1: And I don't think the coach is going to demand
Speaker 1: that you put two tight ends out there and run
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, Bryson Hopkins is from Purdue, who's my
Speaker 1: third round tight end? I like him. I think he
Speaker 1: can block a little bit. He's not the most fluid
Speaker 1: guy of all time. And then Dan's gonna try to
Speaker 1: sell you on Troutman, the small school guy from Dayton
Speaker 1: after the Shaheen situation. I'm staying away. Dane falls in
Speaker 1: love with a tight end from a school nobody's heard
Speaker 1: of every year. It's fine. I like, wait what I'm
Speaker 1: hearing about that? Though, because like, tight end is not
Speaker 1: a position I would want to use a first round
Speaker 1: pick on Blake Jarwin is fine for me, And I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm basically assuming Jason Winden isn't coming back. I guess
Speaker 1: I shouldn't do that. Would you spend a third round
Speaker 1: pick on them? Though? You said no first round, which
Speaker 1: is fine? Absolutely? Kick? Do we know where they pick
Speaker 1: in the third yet it's two into fifth round. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about fifth round? Portland State? What name you guys
Speaker 1: just went after Dane? I was gonna say, and you're
Speaker 1: just trying to impress people, Charlie to my Portland State guy.
Speaker 1: I am watching round Portland State already watching Portland State players.
Speaker 1: It's the first show of the year. I love it.
Speaker 1: Where'd you find that tape? Oh? Actually yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: but I have access to that Okay State. I know
Speaker 1: we spent five minutes talking about the posibility of drafting
Speaker 1: a tackle, but like other than tight end or maybe
Speaker 1: a slot receiver depending on Ranald Copp's future. Like, it's
Speaker 1: hard to imagine a first round pick being on offense
Speaker 1: otherwise wide receiver. That's it. And that's what's so intriguing
Speaker 1: because I think the value is going to be insane.
Speaker 1: The value is going to be nuts at receiver, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: now you agree with that's almost a first round It's
Speaker 1: almost a reason not to take a first round wide
Speaker 1: receiver because I mean, Jeff, you've been working on the
Speaker 1: wide receivers pretty heavily. I know it's still early, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of good ones, a lot,
Speaker 1: but to me, there is Ceedee Lamb and Jerry Judy
Speaker 1: and then I would put a little, a little break
Speaker 1: there before you get to Henry Rugs and maybe put
Speaker 1: Te Higgins right there with Rugs, and then I would
Speaker 1: have another gap and you go down to what do
Speaker 1: you get here? Ayuk and Rager and Channault. What do
Speaker 1: you think about Ayouk from Randon? Ayouks from Arizona state him,
Speaker 1: But I'm not done with him. I gotta I like
Speaker 1: him a lot. But it seems like it's very big
Speaker 1: play based, which is very much based on take something
Speaker 1: short and take it to the house. I think the
Speaker 1: odds that are very very talented wide receiver is there.
Speaker 1: It's good at seventeen, I think, and it's also good
Speaker 1: at fifty one. I just I mean, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a that if you're talking about storylines for the draft,
Speaker 1: it might just be how many insane, insanely good wide receivers.
Speaker 1: Gallop year is a great example of how wide receivers,
Speaker 1: good wide receivers can fall to you. Sure, what about
Speaker 1: day three though? You're talking for a second or third round,
Speaker 1: and I mean, if you're retaining Cooper, you have Gallop,
Speaker 1: you bring back Cobb, then that's likely where a receiver pick. Actually,
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna go day three. Are there anybody that
Speaker 1: you're Is there anybody that you're looking at in day three?
Speaker 1: Keeping on kJ Hill from Ohio State and he will
Speaker 1: be a Senior Bowl guy. Gandy Golden and he's from Liberty, Antonio.
Speaker 1: Gandy Golden, but he's more of the bigger, can't separate
Speaker 1: type of guy, you know. You know, it also is
Speaker 1: going to depend what they want. You know, do they
Speaker 1: want a size guy on the outside. Do they want
Speaker 1: a separation guy? Like I think, if there's anything and
Speaker 1: if you know, I think we've we've kind of seen
Speaker 1: this over the years, is you can really help your
Speaker 1: quarterback out more than anything by just getting a separator.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking for more of those guys than I am,
Speaker 1: the big size guys, especially when I'm kind of considering
Speaker 1: in my own head gallop a size guy on the outside. Okay,
Speaker 1: but follow me here, because I'm looking at the contract
Speaker 1: chart for the Dallas Cowboys. They have one two, three, four,
Speaker 1: five six seven impending free agents on their defensive line,
Speaker 1: and to Jeffrey's point, I hate to give it to them,
Speaker 1: but they have one two, three, four, five, six seven
Speaker 1: eight pending free agents in their secondary and I just
Speaker 1: have a hard time believing we can sneak one offensive
Speaker 1: pick and the sneak one guys, it can't be too
Speaker 1: early though, because the problem is, if we're being realistic,
Speaker 1: pick seventeen needs to be defense. It just does. And
Speaker 1: you've done if you find three starters in a draft,
Speaker 1: you've done an incredible job. That's fantastic. So the idea
Speaker 1: that you could be like, well, I'll use the first
Speaker 1: pick on offense and then find some defensive starters, well
Speaker 1: you might find one, and they've tried situations where they,
Speaker 1: you know, try to address it in one fell swoop.
Speaker 1: Obviously the twenty seventeen draft, which you know, Cheeto, Jordan,
Speaker 1: and Xavier Woods are all playing, but you wouldn't say
Speaker 1: that those are amazing picks right now, just in terms
Speaker 1: of what you're getting from them. And they're very close
Speaker 1: to having to do that again, right especially if Byron's
Speaker 1: Byron Jones and Anthony Brown, two of your three preferred
Speaker 1: starters on day one, might not be back. They gotta hit.
Speaker 1: They gotta hit on two of their first three for sure.
Speaker 1: They really and they really could use it because they're
Speaker 1: gonna need bodies and free pizza. Free agent two. Jeff
Speaker 1: Ethan Woods is your only safety. Oh man, you got
Speaker 1: one safety. I believe I was gonna I believe even Yeah,
Speaker 1: even Darian Thompson, who was kind of your spot third
Speaker 1: safety is a free agent. Von's free agent. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you trust it though. I mean safety is going
Speaker 1: to be deeper than usually. We're gonna more top one
Speaker 1: hundred safeties than we've had. Pull for Donovan Wilson. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fine. To steal a line from the great Brad Sham.
Speaker 1: Hope is not a strategy. I think. I can't sit here.
Speaker 1: It's super desperate. Can't sit here and hope that my
Speaker 1: sixth round safety from last year blossoms. That'd be great
Speaker 1: if he does. Preseason days he really did. He I
Speaker 1: had a fantastic preseason and couldn't get on the field
Speaker 1: after that. What happens with some of these guys who
Speaker 1: got drafted because they had fans on the coaching staff
Speaker 1: and those fans are no longer on those coaching That's
Speaker 1: another thing too, is you know, we we have preconceived
Speaker 1: notions and coaches are going to show up here in
Speaker 1: another week or two and be like, oh, that guy
Speaker 1: we don't want that guy Wilson can't play, or they're
Speaker 1: gonna say, oh, this guy that they let's sit on
Speaker 1: the bench. Yeah, that guy needs to touch the ball
Speaker 1: eighty times a game. So it's twenty sixty free agents
Speaker 1: and contracts that are up. Yeah, and then you turn
Speaker 1: around and it could potentially be more spots. Now, they're
Speaker 1: not gonna get rid of starters or anybody. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna be big names. I would assume not, but I
Speaker 1: mean no, this is gonna be a massive transition. I mean,
Speaker 1: you turn a third of the roster over every year anyway.
Speaker 1: But I think I counted it up, and there's eleven
Speaker 1: guys that you could quantify as a starter who don't
Speaker 1: have contract Brown jumps into play too, who wasn't starting
Speaker 1: at the end of the year. And then you think
Speaker 1: about guys like Sean Lee and Joe Thomas who aren't
Speaker 1: starters in name, but you needed them down the stretch.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of stuff to consider. And that's listen.
Speaker 1: I'm with Jeff, like I want I want three badass
Speaker 1: receivers who can play inside and outside, and I want
Speaker 1: to score fifty six points a game. But looking at
Speaker 1: this list, it's just hard for me to think that
Speaker 1: they're not going to zero in on defenders with these
Speaker 1: first these big money picks. I also don't want to
Speaker 1: give up fifty seven points per game in your scenario
Speaker 1: there exactly, and that's I mean, man, Jet, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hate it if Jeff is right, but I can see
Speaker 1: the logic. We have bodies at cornerback, we have bodies
Speaker 1: at the safety. And do you know that in the draft,
Speaker 1: the draft, corner and safety is gonna be It's gonna
Speaker 1: be rich for top one hundred players. You're gonna be flying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have to reach at seventeen.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be fine at those positions at least in
Speaker 1: terms of adding what could be potentially starters. But what
Speaker 1: they do with their schemes gonna make a big difference,
Speaker 1: and that's yet to be seen yet. I'm gonna need
Speaker 1: y'all to find a Day three defensive back that we
Speaker 1: can celebrate over. And we've done it twice. We do
Speaker 1: it every Anthony Brown, Xavier Woods. We're gonna need another
Speaker 1: one because somebody's on their way out. We don't know
Speaker 1: who it is, all right, cool, find a safety that's
Speaker 1: half or what is that? Les? What's half of one
Speaker 1: tenth of the second. I'm already in love with the
Speaker 1: tiny guy. It's interesting to see if christ Rah Shard,
Speaker 1: we can find a safety who's a little bit too
Speaker 1: slow and a little bit too small, because it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter because they're good at football. That's what we did
Speaker 1: with Woods. It'll work out, and that's excited about it.
Speaker 1: On day three's and I know we're running out of time,
Speaker 1: but Jordan Lewis was the apple of this staff's eye,
Speaker 1: and then Chris Rahard showed up and he fell out
Speaker 1: of favor, and now we don't know if Christopher Shard
Speaker 1: will be back. Like, We're gonna have a clearer idea
Speaker 1: of what this team is looking for over the next
Speaker 1: two weeks as they finalize this coaching speak robertson Cornerback
Speaker 1: Louisiana Tech right like that, Well, we're gonna dig deeper
Speaker 1: into that going into next week as well. Next week
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