WEBVTT - Draft Show: Setting The Stage 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:27.520 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:37.839 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Is the Dallas Cowboys 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:42.760 dot Com Draft Show, your war room for insider news 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:46.560 and trapped analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:52.640 headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Running Back and now 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:59.120 your hosts David Hellman, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner and Kyle Yeoman's. 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:05.240 There are one hundred and five days until the NFL 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.000 Draft in Las Vegas, Nevada. There are only two weeks 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:11.080 until the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama. But the weight 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.080 is over for the twenty twenty Dallas Cowboys Draft Show, 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.520 live from the Star in Frisco, Texas. Alongside the great 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:21.240 David Hellman of Dallas Cowboys dot Com, You've got Kevin 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:23.840 Turner across the table from the Athletic and then from 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:26.040 one oh five point three the fan mister Jeff Cavan 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:29.800 on Boys. It's time to get into draft coverage in 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.920 twenty twenty. It's crazy to think that that journey is 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:36.240 finally here. Oh man, Kyle, I know you've got some experience, 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.959 but you've got the voice for this man. Let's for 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:41.720 those of you just joining us. Yes, Kyle Yeoman's were 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:44.200 glad to welcome you to the studio. I think if 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:46.759 you watch our programs are familiar with our stuff, you've 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:49.560 probably heard him behind the scenes a little bit, joining 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:52.160 us at the desk. And I'm excited about it. Hell 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.080 of an intro. Thank you. Sorry not to steal your 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.520 thunder ahead. It's fine, let's do this thing. Let's do 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:58.480 this thing. And I mean, there are plenty of storylines 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:00.800 going around the draft already. I know, Jeff, you're a 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:03.880 gigantic wide receiver advocate for the Cowboys in the first round. 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:05.760 There are plenty of wide receivers to pick from. I 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.359 quit though, I'm out, you're out, backed out on it. Yeah, 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.040 why as soon as McCarthy shouted out Randall Cobb during 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:12.760 press where I was like, all right, Cobb's coming back. 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.360 They're gonna keep Cooper, They're gonna keep Gallop. So I'm 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:16.760 gonna have to let it go. You can't do that 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.000 on January eight, I gotta let it go. No, you don't. 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:23.079 I can't have CD him is already done. Can't have rugs. 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:26.760 When has common sense ever stopped you from pounding the 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.760 drum that you want to pound? That's a fair question 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:33.079 with weird wording. You're right and no, yeah, but I'll 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:34.640 have to find another gallop guy. I'm have to go 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:38.440 find a third rounder. I mean, we're jumping way into 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:41.400 the micro very early. But like that doesn't mean anything 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.960 to me. Like you got to see the market. Randall 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.120 Cobb might not necessarily be back. I'm not ready to 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:47.840 give up on that dream. Yeah, like he was. He 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:49.720 was probably gonna show up to that press conference no 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.560 matter what. Right, Yeah, but then McCarthy called him beautiful, 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.440 and I think he called him in this move. He 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.440 did this little move a thing to be here. Yeah, 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.720 but you know, I think Randall Cobb gets a better offer. 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.799 I have reat, especially after the Cowboys paid Deak and 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:09.200 Amari Cooper and they can't give we can't give you 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:12.760 ten million dollars. We're gonna draft Henry Ruggs and prosper 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:14.400 Oh see, I was thinking he's gonna come back in 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.440 another one year five million dollars. Yeah, he's gonna be that. 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.920 It's possible. Yeah, it's very possible. But wide receivers, I 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.280 mean there's plenty, not even just like top three round guys, 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:23.840 but there's a little bit of depth in this draft 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.480 that I think you could go after that. If Randall 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.080 Cobb isn't the answer, then potentially you could go after 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.120 in some of the later rounds, but also just quarterbacks high. 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:36.080 Maybe not the quarterbacks for the Cowboys per se, but 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:38.960 there's a bevy of guys in the first round that 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.600 you're gonna look at. Are we ready to are we 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.720 ready to rule that out? Hold on? Hold on, hold on, 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.040 let me let me just let me ask you. Let 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:50.160 me ask you here today an honor of my friend 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:54.520 who you need to be challenged here. Two of makes 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:59.080 it to seventeen. Oh, your doctor says his hips fine, 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:01.800 he's gonna be fine. It makes it to seventeen. Okay, 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:04.560 we had this conversation two years ago. Lamar Jackson makes 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:06.920 it to seventeen. Are you asking me? Are you asking 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:11.120 me me as not you the Dallas Cowboys. I'm asking Dave, 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:16.240 not the Cowboys. Didn't we do this? Oh, I'd be No, 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.760 I can't do it. We did this invader ash year, right, Yeah, 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.920 we did we. Jake from makes it to your third 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:25.120 round pick, Jake from your third round pick? No, come 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.640 on man, no, okay, sorry, I'm there too. I like 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:29.880 how we're so far in the weeds. Eight minutes into 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:31.960 this thing. I love it. That didn't take very long 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:33.120 at all. We are going to hit a lot of 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:37.039 the Cowboys position needs and once coming up in segment three. 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.240 We also got Twitter on the twenty and segment two, 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:40.920 but kind of wanted to start things off just kind 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:44.080 of general thoughts guys of twenty twenty. I mean, I 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.159 know it's January, it's January ninth. I mean, we've got 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:50.640 plenty of time until April twenty third. But right now, 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.200 as you look at the draft overall, what is your 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.520 feel as to what this draft is going to be 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:58.040 known for. I mean, I'll start right here. I mean, 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.159 we kind of covered some of it already, but I 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.160 think Tuah's health check at the combine is going to 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.359 mean everything in the world, because that changes everything in 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.599 the top five, top ten, top one. I mean that 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:13.360 could really throw everything, throw a wrench into everything. If 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:17.120 Tah's hip is good or bad. I mean, who knows 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.599 if he would have declared if he was if he 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:23.200 got a hey, you're not good, you should probably go 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:25.160 back to college. But go back to college and get 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:26.680 beat up again, or maybe I should go to the 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:28.360 NFL now, So there's a lot of ways to think 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:30.800 about it, and I think that's the story because I think, 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.560 no matter what happens, I don't think it's clear that 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.680 Burrow is ahead of Tuah if Tuah's health is good, 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.480 but it's not, And don't you think that that is 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:44.520 a pretty big red flag honestly. I mean absolutely, he's 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.400 dealing with basically the Bo Jackson injury. I know it's 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:51.000 not exactly the same. I mean, he's he has been 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.159 banged up for the vast majority of his college career. 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:54.880 He has not had a healthy season. And that's why 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.880 we talk about this in six weeks after the combine 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:00.919 and then there's a medical check and all that stuff. 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:02.800 But what's interesting about it is like we we all 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.479 went to the combine, the Jalen Smith year, and there 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.359 are differing opinions on that, and there will be like 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.000 there will be guys that don't have two on their board, 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.360 there will be teams that are in love with them. 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.760 I completely get that, But I just think there's enough 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:20.599 of a concern there that I don't think too could 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.719 possibly be in the conversation at number one overall, not 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:28.400 with the it's the Bengals a lot of time, Dave time, 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.240 I actually have a pro day a lot of time 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:34.240 to a lot of time. Kyle asked, like, what the 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:36.880 what is what is the hallmark for this draft? And 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.240 like that's okay, So do y'all agree with me that 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:41.800 Right now, I'm looking for where the drama is going 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.240 to come from? Oh serious, Like because it doesn't. You 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:46.000 don't think it's gonna come one. It doesn't look very 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.320 dramatic right now, Like, Oh, the drama is who's gonna 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:51.440 jump up? Who likes Jordan Love, who likes Justin Herbert? 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.400 Who likes too? Do you think falling to people who 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:56.720 have their picks waiting in the teens or do people 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.680 start jumping so you think you think quarter I mean, 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.279 and quarterbacks dictate so much about the top of the draft, 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.880 but you see that happening this year. Keeping one on 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:08.440 the Florida teams. Miami has a pick at five and eighteen, 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.680 Jacksonville's gonna pick at nine and twenty um, and you 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.080 could say that both of those teams need quarterback. Possibly. 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.640 Let's I mean, if we're going to real quick, Cincinnati 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.880 needs a quarterback, Miami needs a quarterback. The La Chargers 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.920 could draft a quarterback. Absolutely, Carolina Panthers might need a quarterback. 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:29.040 The Jags might need a quarterback. And you're looking at 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:32.680 that Indianapolis and because here's a quarterback Hayton on Gardner, 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:38.000 Minshew over there, nice Hayton, I said, on our guys. Fine, 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.160 the Raiders have two picks at twelve and nineteen. John 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.160 Gruden could do something crazy. If you want to go 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.000 get a good player, Tampa might not go be in. 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:49.040 I mean, Bruce arians doesn't sound enamored with Um Jamis Winston. 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.520 James is the thirty thirty guy. He is the one 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:54.880 and only the only thirty thirty guy. Oh yeah, I 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:58.640 kind of respect it. Frank up Or. Yeah, the Indianapolis 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:02.280 front office doesn't sound ballard. Excuse me, thank you. Um. 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.760 I just think myself, it doesn't sound sold on Jacoby 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:08.560 Brissette being the future there They shouldn't be. Um. Pittsburgh 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:11.400 probably has to worry about the future with Ben Roethlisberg 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.640 being injured so often. So yeah, I just talked myself 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:18.400 into quarterback being a pretty dominant storyline. As it always is. 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.600 To get well and wait till Herbert and Love have 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:22.680 a good Senior Bowl week, and then people start talking 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.480 about a Jordan Love from Utah State, Herbert from Oregon. 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:27.600 Once those guys go to the Senior Bowl, maybe those 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.560 guys mump up and then always, you know, think about everything. 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:32.280 We cover the whole draft here, but the Cowboys are 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.559 picking at seventeen. So I want as many quarterbacks going 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:38.200 and the seventeen as possible. Unless and I can hear 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.760 people listening right now that they're like, unless you're not 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:44.280 sold on dec okay, But yeah, well yeah, I'm not 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:47.720 gonna do that today either. Yeah, I'm not gonna talk 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:51.679 to those people. I don't have time for you people. Okay, 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:53.760 I don't have time for you people today. I was 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:57.040 gonna say, I'm Mike McCarthy made it easy for us, 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.679 Like Mike McCarthy introduced as the ninth coach at the 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.800 Cowboy That's something we need to get into too. Absolutely, 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.280 a very exciting thing about this draft is that we 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:09.319 it's going to be different. Yeah, it's gonna be refreshing 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.040 because you can't sit here on January ninth right now 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.880 and say, oh, they don't like nose tackles or oh 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:17.640 they don't like safeties, because we have no idea who's 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:19.880 going to be coaching those positions or who's going to 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:23.640 be valuing that draft stock. And that's fascinating. Also with 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:27.440 all the turnover that is inevitable, with the amount of 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:29.720 free agents in the amount of roster that we're going 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.240 to see change going into twenty twenty, there's a ton 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:34.040 of positions you can go for. You can go defensive 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:36.000 line in the first round. You could go with the secondary. 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.320 I mean we've even thrown in quarterback. I know that's 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:41.160 a completely separate topic. Wide receiver even then there as well, 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:43.480 there's plenty of places you can go with a new 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:47.000 staff kind of at the helm. I really think quarterback 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.600 and running back are the only two positions that I 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.320 can't imagine the Cowboys spending a draft pick on in 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.640 the first round. Offensive line you could talk me into it, 0:09:55.679 --> 0:10:00.560 actually I wanted to mention that, Okay, which but I mean, yeah, 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:04.280 it wouldn't It would be surprising, but not like completely 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.960 out of left field, because we've seen the injury issues 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:09.360 that Tyrant Smith has dealt with. They haven't been able 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:11.920 to nail down the left guard position. And I wanted 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.280 to bring this up this it seems like a tackle 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:19.120 heavy class, like this seems like, there are a lot 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.240 of good offensive tackles. I'm not saying it would be 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.160 the best thing for the Cowboys to do, but you 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:27.320 could find yourself a swing tackle slash left tackle the future. 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:29.600 The Eagles just did it with Andre Dillard last year. 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:32.200 It's always awkward, though, when you draft a guy in 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.240 the first round and then after the round, as we're 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.080 recapping the round, we're like, well, here's the thing. You 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.960 hope he never plays. Yeah, use the first round pick. 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:41.560 Hope he never plays. Hope that your tackles are healthy. 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:44.480 It would not be ideal, but I could make a 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:47.000 case for it, sure, especially especially if you're picking at 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:50.080 seventeen and he's your tenth best player in the drafts 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.040 and then your next best is a running back and 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:54.680 your next best is a you know, and you're sitting 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:56.319 there going, okay, guys, do we really want to skip 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.400 over eight? Guys like, do we want to not pick 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.200 our tenth player so that we can pick our seventeenth 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.880 best player who plays a position that we like. It's like, 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:06.360 this is how we screw things up. You want to 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:09.560 screw things up. Tackles become a position too, where he 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.800 kind of gets top heavy and there's still a lot 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:13.680 of work to do on this year's draft, but over 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.760 the years we've seen struggles if you're trying to reach 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:20.040 and plug and play or get a guy late in 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.800 the draft at the offensive tackle position, I think we 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:27.120 need to be talking about cornerbacks. Yep, but that's gonna 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:28.600 be a corner. There's gonna be a lot of corners 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:30.679 in this draft. You're gonna have a top two corner 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.040 of safety. Probably it's gonna be a corner or Safety's 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.760 in love with that. You're you're making that call eleven 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:37.320 minutes into the first show of the year. Yeah, it's 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:38.679 gonna be a corner of safety. As soon as I'm 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:40.640 telling you. As soon as McCarthy said hie to Randall 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.320 Cobb in the back of the room at the press conference, 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:45.920 I hit the little X. I was watching a receiver 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.560 and I closed it, and then I clicked over and 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.640 I started watching Grant Delpit. I was like, all right, 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.559 so let me just go to the secondary getting a receiver. 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:56.640 Safety fun Chris Beam, our expert and veteran producer behind 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:59.360 the board, please clip that out and I would like 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.800 to revisit it in the coming weeks and months. Okay, 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.160 it's gonna be delp it about that. Okay, so there's 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:10.400 the cop I'm here for it now, or an LSU corner. 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:14.200 The Tiger secondary is gonna come to Dallas now, Katie, 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.840 you mentioned top heavy in terms of tackles and offensive 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.480 tackles in the draft and wanted to get to this 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.640 Dane Brugler from the Athletic of course one of the 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.160 was he a founding member or one of the actual 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.120 No Dave shouts out as Brian used to do this 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.160 all the time. Brian brought us an ed K Hill, 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:32.360 the founding members funding ed K Hill. It was his 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.920 his idea, baby, it grew into this. Dane came along 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:41.120 and uh made it the most in depth show ever. 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.320 We miss you, dearly, Dane. Rest in peace to those 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.520 guys we miss you dearly. Not they're not dead. They 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.760 might they might even pop up on this show show. 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.520 But uh, yeah, special thanks to both those guys brought 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.319 us and and Ed and then also uh Dane, but 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.920 wanted to get into his top one say we're still 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.120 going to use your work, Dane. I don't even don't 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.920 get diving into it right now. But you mentioned offensive 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:08.120 tackle Andrew Thomas, who a guy from Georgia A lot 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:11.000 of people had very high, maybe even as the top tackle. 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.480 Now in Dane's most recent update to the Top one 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:18.280 hundred falls to the third offensive tackle, he's number twelve overall. 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.120 That one kind of stood out to me. But it 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:21.960 also it goes to what you were saying with a 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:25.640 top heavy offensive tackle draft. There's three in the top twelve, 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:27.320 and that's why I think the Cowboys would stay away 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.160 from that at seventeen, just because, I mean, again, the 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.680 Lyle Collins contract is something that happened that I didn't 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.319 really foresee that was going to happen. But I think 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.600 I think in the eyes of most people on my board, 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:39.480 I'm looking at my board right now so far and 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.679 again it's early. I tread lightly in January, but it's 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:45.959 the Alabama kid Wills, it's Worth's from Iowa, and then 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:51.120 Andrew Thomas's offensive tackle three, And there's pretty good players 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.480 in the second round at offensive tackle if they wanted 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:55.240 to mess around with that. But I just think the 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.880 Cowboys are gonna have so many more glaring needs, whether 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:03.280 it's defensive front, whether it is secondary. And then, as 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.000 this happens every year, thirty percent of the roster rolls over, 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:09.719 so you know it's I have our time being real 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:13.040 declarative in January about like what they need, because man, 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.520 free agency is gonna come and become a board. I 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.959 don't expect them to be heavy players in free agency, 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:19.520 but they had a lot of things they can do. 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:21.960 And you're gonna have a franchise tag and a transition tag, 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.440 what happens with Byron, with Robert Quinn. There's so much 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.440 that can happen. I enjoy starting the show this early 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:29.800 because it allows us to you know, you got to 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:33.320 dive as deep as possible. There's fifteen hundred freaking players 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.640 that are eligible for this draft. But it's going to 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.120 change so much, and it does drastically every year, Like 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:42.440 by March twenty first, we will have completely changed our 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.920 opinions on what they need or what they should do. Well, 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:46.560 we don't know if they're a four three or three 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.000 fourteen exactly. That's a which question. We don't know. And 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.240 after that pressor I, if you made me guess, I 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.240 would guess three four because I think it's easier to 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.040 just say we're gonna do what they've been doing. That's 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.080 what the roster is. But the answer was, you know, 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.080 we'll see what you say. Signed to Marcus Lawrence, can 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.160 you play three four? Sure you can stand up. That's 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:05.160 there's a lot of people who seem to think he 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.240 can stand up. Actually I'm not necessarily one of them, 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.920 but I think you can drop very often. Well's, I 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.480 know what you have to do in that position. You're 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.920 on A four two three four runs of four two 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.880 A four three runs of four two. We're playing nickel. 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.000 Everybody's playing nickel all the time. I get it. It 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.000 doesn't matter. That's play the fun out of it, though 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:23.400 it does take the fun out of it. But I'd 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:24.960 like to apologize for taking the fun out of them. 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:26.520 If they were to do that, I think it would 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:29.800 be a more gradual transition than they're just playing three 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:34.120 four on September tenth next year, hybrid action, a gradual 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.560 transition back in there. I like it. But actually to 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:39.440 that point, and yeah, I'm just I'm ripping off Dane's 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.400 top one hundred. I love you, Dane. I'm not sorry. 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.400 Looking at it, Okay, you go all the way to 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.800 you know, and this obviously isn't a mock draft, but 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.880 you look at the top seventeen players the Cowboys pick seventeenth. 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:53.320 Seven of them play positions that the Cowboys probably have 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.800 no interest in drafting in the first round. And if 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:59.080 you include Clemson linebacker Isaiah Simmons, which I know he 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.920 can play about eight spots, I'm interested. I didn't say 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:05.040 you shouldn't be. I'm just saying, if you consider him 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:08.960 a linebacker, that's probably another position the Cowboys would rather 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:11.800 not draft him. Set you know, worry about it. Okay, 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.240 you're undermining my point. I'm just saying it's my fault. 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.520 There's as many as eight guys that they would say, ah, 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.440 we can live without him, and that's really encouraging. It's 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:22.440 even more encouraging. And I'm not trying to be a 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:25.400 homer for Grant Delpit. But again, if this was last year, 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:27.960 I would say, they're not gonna draft a safety in 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.120 the first round. Are you crazy? They don't do that? 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.280 But they might this year, and I know can't tell 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.920 me that they definitely won't. So Grant Delpit from LSU 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:38.000 his twenty nineteen tape ass awarts on it. You won 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:41.080 the Thorpe Award, Katie. He's the best I know. I 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.440 know he had not earn the Thorpe Award, but it was. 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:45.360 It was a lifetime achievement award. It's a lot of 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.320 mission should have won it last year, but you dive 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:48.960 into a little bit of what's going on with him, 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.120 and he had a shoulder injury. Dude, when you don't 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:53.600 have range of motion in your shoulder, it's very hard 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:57.080 to wrap up at running backs. Like the mistackles. You 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.000 would see it and go, okay, yeah, you'd like for 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.360 that to be better. I watched some twenty eighteen tape 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.560 on him. He's not missing those same tackles he was 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:06.480 missing in twenty nineteen. I would advise anyone that's down 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:10.159 incredible on Grant delpit a watch his twenty eighteen tape 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:14.040 and then watch his games against Georgia and Oklahoma LSU's 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:17.520 two most recent games. He's still pretty damn good. He 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:20.359 can play. He's really good, and he deserves to be 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.399 top half of the first round consideration still in my 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.400 opinion now seventeen. Again, we did this a few years ago. 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:28.280 It's way different players and not comparing the two. We 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.560 saw Derwin James slide just because the league didn't seem 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.160 to value that position very much. But Derwin James can 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.880 do everything. Strong safety, free safety, you know, wears him 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:41.560 the right way nowhere. He was drafted exactly a seven 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.480 and we were the Cowboys, were were nineteenth at the time. 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:46.919 A lot of people wanted him to trade up Layton 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.000 Vander esh injury plagued second season. I still think he's 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.399 gonna be okay, But I would argue I think Derwin 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.119 James is a better college prospect than Grant Delpit. Do 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:59.639 you agree? I agree, yeah, yes, and they and he 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.240 felt seventeen, so he filled a seventeen. It's a very 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.120 realistic scenario. So I'm picking him. He'll be there. Okay, 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:07.040 He's gonna be there. In safety class is better this 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.080 year than it's been in years past. You're gonna have 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:11.800 some names. The Alabama guy, Zavier McKinney's gonna come to mind. 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:15.480 Ashton Davis California. I love man. I think he's like 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.840 him a lot. Second round pick, and you're picking in 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:19.800 the middle of the second round. I mean, if that's 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:21.600 the area you want to go. But this team had 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:23.080 a chance to get a safety last year in the 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:26.440 second and he's playing in the playoffs. He's probably gonna 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.400 make a play on Saturday wan Thornhill or Sunday, whatever, 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:31.160 damn day they makes a play. Every time you watch 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.800 the Chief, you're gonna hear his name Colts too. Yeah, 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.720 it's fine. It's fine, guys, because it's it's not fine. Hey, 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.720 it's not fine. The Cowboys will pick twice this spring 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.560 before their first pick last year. But will they be 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:45.800 zeroed in on who they're picking already before they get 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:47.600 to the pick, or will they actually pick the best 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:50.040 player available. That's where it thinks things have changed because 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:51.959 we don't know. Tell, Yeah, we don't know. All right, Well, 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:53.920 I'm just asking the question because I'm I'm just trying 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:56.120 to make sure our process is sound here. It's weird 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:59.520 because Jerry Stephen, Will McClay, we well know they're still 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:03.919 in the mix. It's very unpredictable now, especially when the coaches, 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:07.879 many coaches of changes we had, like some of these 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:09.840 coaching hires aren't officially yet, so I want to comment 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:11.480 too much on any of these things. But yeah, but 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.000 the names you're hearing, Yeah, you're hearing a lot of 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.600 experienced names, a lot of guys with a lot of 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:20.520 skins on the wall. I mean, I'm excited and you're right, 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:22.800 a lot of the same decision makers are still in place. 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:25.280