1 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Is the Dallas Cowboys 3 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: dot Com Draft Show, your war room for insider news 4 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: and trapped analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys 5 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Running Back and now 6 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: your hosts David Hellman, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner and Kyle Yeoman's. 7 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: There are one hundred and five days until the NFL 8 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: Draft in Las Vegas, Nevada. There are only two weeks 9 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: until the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama. But the weight 10 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: is over for the twenty twenty Dallas Cowboys Draft Show, 11 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: live from the Star in Frisco, Texas. Alongside the great 12 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: David Hellman of Dallas Cowboys dot Com, You've got Kevin 13 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: Turner across the table from the Athletic and then from 14 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: one oh five point three the fan mister Jeff Cavan 15 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: on Boys. It's time to get into draft coverage in 16 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. It's crazy to think that that journey is 17 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: finally here. Oh man, Kyle, I know you've got some experience, 18 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: but you've got the voice for this man. Let's for 19 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: those of you just joining us. Yes, Kyle Yeoman's were 20 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: glad to welcome you to the studio. I think if 21 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: you watch our programs are familiar with our stuff, you've 22 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: probably heard him behind the scenes a little bit, joining 23 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: us at the desk. And I'm excited about it. Hell 24 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: of an intro. Thank you. Sorry not to steal your 25 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: thunder ahead. It's fine, let's do this thing. Let's do 26 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: this thing. And I mean, there are plenty of storylines 27 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: going around the draft already. I know, Jeff, you're a 28 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: gigantic wide receiver advocate for the Cowboys in the first round. 29 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: There are plenty of wide receivers to pick from. I 30 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: quit though, I'm out, you're out, backed out on it. Yeah, 31 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: why as soon as McCarthy shouted out Randall Cobb during 32 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: press where I was like, all right, Cobb's coming back. 33 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: They're gonna keep Cooper, They're gonna keep Gallop. So I'm 34 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: gonna have to let it go. You can't do that 35 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: on January eight, I gotta let it go. No, you don't. 36 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: I can't have CD him is already done. Can't have rugs. 37 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: When has common sense ever stopped you from pounding the 38 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: drum that you want to pound? That's a fair question 39 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: with weird wording. You're right and no, yeah, but I'll 40 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: have to find another gallop guy. I'm have to go 41 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: find a third rounder. I mean, we're jumping way into 42 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: the micro very early. But like that doesn't mean anything 43 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: to me. Like you got to see the market. Randall 44 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: Cobb might not necessarily be back. I'm not ready to 45 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: give up on that dream. Yeah, like he was. He 46 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: was probably gonna show up to that press conference no 47 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: matter what. Right, Yeah, but then McCarthy called him beautiful, 48 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: and I think he called him in this move. He 49 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: did this little move a thing to be here. Yeah, 50 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: but you know, I think Randall Cobb gets a better offer. 51 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: I have reat, especially after the Cowboys paid Deak and 52 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper and they can't give we can't give you 53 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: ten million dollars. We're gonna draft Henry Ruggs and prosper 54 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: Oh see, I was thinking he's gonna come back in 55 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: another one year five million dollars. Yeah, he's gonna be that. 56 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: It's possible. Yeah, it's very possible. But wide receivers, I 57 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: mean there's plenty, not even just like top three round guys, 58 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: but there's a little bit of depth in this draft 59 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: that I think you could go after that. If Randall 60 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: Cobb isn't the answer, then potentially you could go after 61 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: in some of the later rounds, but also just quarterbacks high. 62 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: Maybe not the quarterbacks for the Cowboys per se, but 63 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: there's a bevy of guys in the first round that 64 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna look at. Are we ready to are we 65 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: ready to rule that out? Hold on? Hold on, hold on, 66 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: let me let me just let me ask you. Let 67 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: me ask you here today an honor of my friend 68 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: who you need to be challenged here. Two of makes 69 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: it to seventeen. Oh, your doctor says his hips fine, 70 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: he's gonna be fine. It makes it to seventeen. Okay, 71 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: we had this conversation two years ago. Lamar Jackson makes 72 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: it to seventeen. Are you asking me? Are you asking 73 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: me me as not you the Dallas Cowboys. I'm asking Dave, 74 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: not the Cowboys. Didn't we do this? Oh, I'd be No, 75 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: I can't do it. We did this invader ash year, right, Yeah, 76 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: we did we. Jake from makes it to your third 77 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: round pick, Jake from your third round pick? No, come 78 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: on man, no, okay, sorry, I'm there too. I like 79 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: how we're so far in the weeds. Eight minutes into 80 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: this thing. I love it. That didn't take very long 81 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: at all. We are going to hit a lot of 82 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: the Cowboys position needs and once coming up in segment three. 83 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: We also got Twitter on the twenty and segment two, 84 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: but kind of wanted to start things off just kind 85 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: of general thoughts guys of twenty twenty. I mean, I 86 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: know it's January, it's January ninth. I mean, we've got 87 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: plenty of time until April twenty third. But right now, 88 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: as you look at the draft overall, what is your 89 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: feel as to what this draft is going to be 90 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: known for. I mean, I'll start right here. I mean, 91 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: we kind of covered some of it already, but I 92 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: think Tuah's health check at the combine is going to 93 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: mean everything in the world, because that changes everything in 94 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: the top five, top ten, top one. I mean that 95 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: could really throw everything, throw a wrench into everything. If 96 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: Tah's hip is good or bad. I mean, who knows 97 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: if he would have declared if he was if he 98 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: got a hey, you're not good, you should probably go 99 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: back to college. But go back to college and get 100 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: beat up again, or maybe I should go to the 101 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: NFL now, So there's a lot of ways to think 102 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: about it, and I think that's the story because I think, 103 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: no matter what happens, I don't think it's clear that 104 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: Burrow is ahead of Tuah if Tuah's health is good, 105 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: but it's not, And don't you think that that is 106 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: a pretty big red flag honestly. I mean absolutely, he's 107 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: dealing with basically the Bo Jackson injury. I know it's 108 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: not exactly the same. I mean, he's he has been 109 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: banged up for the vast majority of his college career. 110 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: He has not had a healthy season. And that's why 111 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: we talk about this in six weeks after the combine 112 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: and then there's a medical check and all that stuff. 113 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: But what's interesting about it is like we we all 114 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: went to the combine, the Jalen Smith year, and there 115 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: are differing opinions on that, and there will be like 116 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: there will be guys that don't have two on their board, 117 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: there will be teams that are in love with them. 118 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: I completely get that, But I just think there's enough 119 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: of a concern there that I don't think too could 120 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: possibly be in the conversation at number one overall, not 121 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: with the it's the Bengals a lot of time, Dave time, 122 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: I actually have a pro day a lot of time 123 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: to a lot of time. Kyle asked, like, what the 124 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: what is what is the hallmark for this draft? And 125 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: like that's okay, So do y'all agree with me that 126 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm looking for where the drama is going 127 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: to come from? Oh serious, Like because it doesn't. You 128 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna come one. It doesn't look very 129 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: dramatic right now, Like, Oh, the drama is who's gonna 130 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: jump up? Who likes Jordan Love, who likes Justin Herbert? 131 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: Who likes too? Do you think falling to people who 132 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: have their picks waiting in the teens or do people 133 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: start jumping so you think you think quarter I mean, 134 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: and quarterbacks dictate so much about the top of the draft, 135 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: but you see that happening this year. Keeping one on 136 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: the Florida teams. Miami has a pick at five and eighteen, 137 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: Jacksonville's gonna pick at nine and twenty um, and you 138 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: could say that both of those teams need quarterback. Possibly. 139 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: Let's I mean, if we're going to real quick, Cincinnati 140 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: needs a quarterback, Miami needs a quarterback. The La Chargers 141 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: could draft a quarterback. Absolutely, Carolina Panthers might need a quarterback. 142 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: The Jags might need a quarterback. And you're looking at 143 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: that Indianapolis and because here's a quarterback Hayton on Gardner, 144 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: Minshew over there, nice Hayton, I said, on our guys. Fine, 145 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: the Raiders have two picks at twelve and nineteen. John 146 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: Gruden could do something crazy. If you want to go 147 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: get a good player, Tampa might not go be in. 148 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Bruce arians doesn't sound enamored with Um Jamis Winston. 149 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: James is the thirty thirty guy. He is the one 150 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: and only the only thirty thirty guy. Oh yeah, I 151 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: kind of respect it. Frank up Or. Yeah, the Indianapolis 152 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: front office doesn't sound ballard. Excuse me, thank you. Um. 153 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: I just think myself, it doesn't sound sold on Jacoby 154 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: Brissette being the future there They shouldn't be. Um. Pittsburgh 155 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: probably has to worry about the future with Ben Roethlisberg 156 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: being injured so often. So yeah, I just talked myself 157 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: into quarterback being a pretty dominant storyline. As it always is. 158 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: To get well and wait till Herbert and Love have 159 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: a good Senior Bowl week, and then people start talking 160 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: about a Jordan Love from Utah State, Herbert from Oregon. 161 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: Once those guys go to the Senior Bowl, maybe those 162 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: guys mump up and then always, you know, think about everything. 163 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: We cover the whole draft here, but the Cowboys are 164 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: picking at seventeen. So I want as many quarterbacks going 165 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: and the seventeen as possible. Unless and I can hear 166 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: people listening right now that they're like, unless you're not 167 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: sold on dec okay, But yeah, well yeah, I'm not 168 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: gonna do that today either. Yeah, I'm not gonna talk 169 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: to those people. I don't have time for you people. Okay, 170 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: I don't have time for you people today. I was 171 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: gonna say, I'm Mike McCarthy made it easy for us, 172 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: Like Mike McCarthy introduced as the ninth coach at the 173 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: Cowboy That's something we need to get into too. Absolutely, 174 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: a very exciting thing about this draft is that we 175 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: it's going to be different. Yeah, it's gonna be refreshing 176 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: because you can't sit here on January ninth right now 177 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: and say, oh, they don't like nose tackles or oh 178 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: they don't like safeties, because we have no idea who's 179 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: going to be coaching those positions or who's going to 180 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: be valuing that draft stock. And that's fascinating. Also with 181 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: all the turnover that is inevitable, with the amount of 182 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: free agents in the amount of roster that we're going 183 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: to see change going into twenty twenty, there's a ton 184 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: of positions you can go for. You can go defensive 185 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: line in the first round. You could go with the secondary. 186 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: I mean we've even thrown in quarterback. I know that's 187 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: a completely separate topic. Wide receiver even then there as well, 188 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: there's plenty of places you can go with a new 189 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: staff kind of at the helm. I really think quarterback 190 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: and running back are the only two positions that I 191 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: can't imagine the Cowboys spending a draft pick on in 192 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: the first round. Offensive line you could talk me into it, 193 00:09:55,679 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: actually I wanted to mention that, Okay, which but I mean, yeah, 194 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: it wouldn't It would be surprising, but not like completely 195 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: out of left field, because we've seen the injury issues 196 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: that Tyrant Smith has dealt with. They haven't been able 197 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: to nail down the left guard position. And I wanted 198 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: to bring this up this it seems like a tackle 199 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: heavy class, like this seems like, there are a lot 200 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: of good offensive tackles. I'm not saying it would be 201 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: the best thing for the Cowboys to do, but you 202 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: could find yourself a swing tackle slash left tackle the future. 203 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: The Eagles just did it with Andre Dillard last year. 204 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: It's always awkward, though, when you draft a guy in 205 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: the first round and then after the round, as we're 206 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: recapping the round, we're like, well, here's the thing. You 207 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: hope he never plays. Yeah, use the first round pick. 208 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: Hope he never plays. Hope that your tackles are healthy. 209 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: It would not be ideal, but I could make a 210 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: case for it, sure, especially especially if you're picking at 211 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: seventeen and he's your tenth best player in the drafts 212 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: and then your next best is a running back and 213 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: your next best is a you know, and you're sitting 214 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: there going, okay, guys, do we really want to skip 215 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: over eight? Guys like, do we want to not pick 216 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: our tenth player so that we can pick our seventeenth 217 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: best player who plays a position that we like. It's like, 218 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: this is how we screw things up. You want to 219 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: screw things up. Tackles become a position too, where he 220 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: kind of gets top heavy and there's still a lot 221 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: of work to do on this year's draft, but over 222 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: the years we've seen struggles if you're trying to reach 223 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: and plug and play or get a guy late in 224 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: the draft at the offensive tackle position, I think we 225 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: need to be talking about cornerbacks. Yep, but that's gonna 226 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: be a corner. There's gonna be a lot of corners 227 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: in this draft. You're gonna have a top two corner 228 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: of safety. Probably it's gonna be a corner or Safety's 229 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: in love with that. You're you're making that call eleven 230 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: minutes into the first show of the year. Yeah, it's 231 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: gonna be a corner of safety. As soon as I'm 232 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: telling you. As soon as McCarthy said hie to Randall 233 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: Cobb in the back of the room at the press conference, 234 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: I hit the little X. I was watching a receiver 235 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: and I closed it, and then I clicked over and 236 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: I started watching Grant Delpit. I was like, all right, 237 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: so let me just go to the secondary getting a receiver. 238 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: Safety fun Chris Beam, our expert and veteran producer behind 239 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: the board, please clip that out and I would like 240 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: to revisit it in the coming weeks and months. Okay, 241 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be delp it about that. Okay, so there's 242 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: the cop I'm here for it now, or an LSU corner. 243 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: The Tiger secondary is gonna come to Dallas now, Katie, 244 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: you mentioned top heavy in terms of tackles and offensive 245 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: tackles in the draft and wanted to get to this 246 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: Dane Brugler from the Athletic of course one of the 247 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: was he a founding member or one of the actual 248 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: No Dave shouts out as Brian used to do this 249 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: all the time. Brian brought us an ed K Hill, 250 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: the founding members funding ed K Hill. It was his 251 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: his idea, baby, it grew into this. Dane came along 252 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: and uh made it the most in depth show ever. 253 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: We miss you, dearly, Dane. Rest in peace to those 254 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: guys we miss you dearly. Not they're not dead. They 255 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: might they might even pop up on this show show. 256 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, special thanks to both those guys brought 257 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: us and and Ed and then also uh Dane, but 258 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: wanted to get into his top one say we're still 259 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: going to use your work, Dane. I don't even don't 260 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: get diving into it right now. But you mentioned offensive 261 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: tackle Andrew Thomas, who a guy from Georgia A lot 262 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: of people had very high, maybe even as the top tackle. 263 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: Now in Dane's most recent update to the Top one 264 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: hundred falls to the third offensive tackle, he's number twelve overall. 265 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: That one kind of stood out to me. But it 266 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: also it goes to what you were saying with a 267 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: top heavy offensive tackle draft. There's three in the top twelve, 268 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: and that's why I think the Cowboys would stay away 269 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: from that at seventeen, just because, I mean, again, the 270 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: Lyle Collins contract is something that happened that I didn't 271 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: really foresee that was going to happen. But I think 272 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: I think in the eyes of most people on my board, 273 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm looking at my board right now so far and 274 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: again it's early. I tread lightly in January, but it's 275 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: the Alabama kid Wills, it's Worth's from Iowa, and then 276 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas's offensive tackle three, And there's pretty good players 277 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: in the second round at offensive tackle if they wanted 278 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: to mess around with that. But I just think the 279 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: Cowboys are gonna have so many more glaring needs, whether 280 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: it's defensive front, whether it is secondary. And then, as 281 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: this happens every year, thirty percent of the roster rolls over, 282 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 1: so you know it's I have our time being real 283 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: declarative in January about like what they need, because man, 284 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: free agency is gonna come and become a board. I 285 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: don't expect them to be heavy players in free agency, 286 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: but they had a lot of things they can do. 287 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: And you're gonna have a franchise tag and a transition tag, 288 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: what happens with Byron, with Robert Quinn. There's so much 289 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: that can happen. I enjoy starting the show this early 290 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: because it allows us to you know, you got to 291 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: dive as deep as possible. There's fifteen hundred freaking players 292 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: that are eligible for this draft. But it's going to 293 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: change so much, and it does drastically every year, Like 294 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: by March twenty first, we will have completely changed our 295 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: opinions on what they need or what they should do. Well, 296 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: we don't know if they're a four three or three 297 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: fourteen exactly. That's a which question. We don't know. And 298 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: after that pressor I, if you made me guess, I 299 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: would guess three four because I think it's easier to 300 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: just say we're gonna do what they've been doing. That's 301 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: what the roster is. But the answer was, you know, 302 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: we'll see what you say. Signed to Marcus Lawrence, can 303 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: you play three four? Sure you can stand up. That's 304 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who seem to think he 305 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: can stand up. Actually I'm not necessarily one of them, 306 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: but I think you can drop very often. Well's, I 307 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: know what you have to do in that position. You're 308 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: on A four two three four runs of four two 309 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: A four three runs of four two. We're playing nickel. 310 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: Everybody's playing nickel all the time. I get it. It 311 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. That's play the fun out of it, though 312 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: it does take the fun out of it. But I'd 313 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: like to apologize for taking the fun out of them. 314 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: If they were to do that, I think it would 315 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: be a more gradual transition than they're just playing three 316 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: four on September tenth next year, hybrid action, a gradual 317 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: transition back in there. I like it. But actually to 318 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: that point, and yeah, I'm just I'm ripping off Dane's 319 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: top one hundred. I love you, Dane. I'm not sorry. 320 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: Looking at it, Okay, you go all the way to 321 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, and this obviously isn't a mock draft, but 322 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: you look at the top seventeen players the Cowboys pick seventeenth. 323 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: Seven of them play positions that the Cowboys probably have 324 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: no interest in drafting in the first round. And if 325 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: you include Clemson linebacker Isaiah Simmons, which I know he 326 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: can play about eight spots, I'm interested. I didn't say 327 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be. I'm just saying, if you consider him 328 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: a linebacker, that's probably another position the Cowboys would rather 329 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: not draft him. Set you know, worry about it. Okay, 330 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: you're undermining my point. I'm just saying it's my fault. 331 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: There's as many as eight guys that they would say, ah, 332 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: we can live without him, and that's really encouraging. It's 333 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: even more encouraging. And I'm not trying to be a 334 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: homer for Grant Delpit. But again, if this was last year, 335 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: I would say, they're not gonna draft a safety in 336 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: the first round. Are you crazy? They don't do that? 337 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: But they might this year, and I know can't tell 338 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: me that they definitely won't. So Grant Delpit from LSU 339 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: his twenty nineteen tape ass awarts on it. You won 340 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: the Thorpe Award, Katie. He's the best I know. I 341 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: know he had not earn the Thorpe Award, but it was. 342 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: It was a lifetime achievement award. It's a lot of 343 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: mission should have won it last year, but you dive 344 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: into a little bit of what's going on with him, 345 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: and he had a shoulder injury. Dude, when you don't 346 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: have range of motion in your shoulder, it's very hard 347 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: to wrap up at running backs. Like the mistackles. You 348 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: would see it and go, okay, yeah, you'd like for 349 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: that to be better. I watched some twenty eighteen tape 350 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: on him. He's not missing those same tackles he was 351 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: missing in twenty nineteen. I would advise anyone that's down 352 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: incredible on Grant delpit a watch his twenty eighteen tape 353 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: and then watch his games against Georgia and Oklahoma LSU's 354 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: two most recent games. He's still pretty damn good. He 355 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: can play. He's really good, and he deserves to be 356 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: top half of the first round consideration still in my 357 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: opinion now seventeen. Again, we did this a few years ago. 358 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: It's way different players and not comparing the two. We 359 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: saw Derwin James slide just because the league didn't seem 360 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: to value that position very much. But Derwin James can 361 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: do everything. Strong safety, free safety, you know, wears him 362 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: the right way nowhere. He was drafted exactly a seven 363 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: and we were the Cowboys, were were nineteenth at the time. 364 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: A lot of people wanted him to trade up Layton 365 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: Vander esh injury plagued second season. I still think he's 366 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: gonna be okay, But I would argue I think Derwin 367 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: James is a better college prospect than Grant Delpit. Do 368 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: you agree? I agree, yeah, yes, and they and he 369 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: felt seventeen, so he filled a seventeen. It's a very 370 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: realistic scenario. So I'm picking him. He'll be there. Okay, 371 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: He's gonna be there. In safety class is better this 372 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: year than it's been in years past. You're gonna have 373 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: some names. The Alabama guy, Zavier McKinney's gonna come to mind. 374 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: Ashton Davis California. I love man. I think he's like 375 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: him a lot. Second round pick, and you're picking in 376 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: the middle of the second round. I mean, if that's 377 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: the area you want to go. But this team had 378 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: a chance to get a safety last year in the 379 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: second and he's playing in the playoffs. He's probably gonna 380 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: make a play on Saturday wan Thornhill or Sunday, whatever, 381 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: damn day they makes a play. Every time you watch 382 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: the Chief, you're gonna hear his name Colts too. Yeah, 383 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: it's fine. It's fine, guys, because it's it's not fine. Hey, 384 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: it's not fine. The Cowboys will pick twice this spring 385 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: before their first pick last year. But will they be 386 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: zeroed in on who they're picking already before they get 387 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: to the pick, or will they actually pick the best 388 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: player available. That's where it thinks things have changed because 389 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 1: we don't know. Tell, Yeah, we don't know. All right, Well, 390 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm just asking the question because I'm I'm just trying 391 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: to make sure our process is sound here. It's weird 392 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: because Jerry Stephen, Will McClay, we well know they're still 393 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: in the mix. It's very unpredictable now, especially when the coaches, 394 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: many coaches of changes we had, like some of these 395 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: coaching hires aren't officially yet, so I want to comment 396 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: too much on any of these things. But yeah, but 397 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: the names you're hearing, Yeah, you're hearing a lot of 398 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: experienced names, a lot of guys with a lot of 399 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: skins on the wall. I mean, I'm excited and you're right, 400 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: a lot of the same decision makers are still in place. 401 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: The scouting department is going to be more or less 402 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: the same. But you can't assume anything right now. You 403 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: can't assume any of the storylines or any of the 404 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: tendencies that you were used to from years pass. Well, 405 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: let's think about this, Jason. I don't know how much 406 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: say he had in the draft room, but Jason and 407 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: his coaches, we at least could kind of have the 408 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: idea of, yeah, they might have a little bit of saying, 409 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: who's picking these players? McCarthy. I don't know how he's 410 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: going to be after those years in Green Bay, but 411 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: he comes from a place where he didn't have a 412 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: lot of say in the draft room and he was 413 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: kind of boxed out. And to me, that's fascinating and 414 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: I hope that he's comfortable about that. And like, but 415 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: I guess Jet scouts at the scouts and will McClay 416 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: just go pick the players? We're good to jest point, 417 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: it's you're right. I think the coaches here had a 418 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: lot of say too, Rod Marinelli, Tristan Hill written all 419 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: over him, like, and we always used to joke on 420 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: this show like wait till late March early April, and 421 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: you can hear the narrative change when the coaches start 422 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: watching tape. And it happened last year and Chris Richard 423 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: was part of it too. He was like, we don't 424 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: need the safety, give us the defensive tackle. So that 425 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: is fascinating Moore. It felt like that was absolutely the 426 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: coaches have sway here and you're right, and Mike McCarthy's 427 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: not used to that, and I wonder what that dynamic 428 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: is going to be like with an entirely new coaching staff. Yeah, 429 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: and that's another factor. It's not even just a fact 430 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: of having that say, but also just the unfamiliar side 431 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: of having a completely new staff around you and having 432 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: that kind of camarader reacher to be able to agree 433 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: on a pick come April. 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It's kind of fitting with the new year, 489 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: the new decade, new look for a show, but same 490 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: same segment. Some things will remain the same, always as 491 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: they should because it's a great show and it has 492 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: been a staple of a show, kind of growing as 493 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 1: the expert host that how dare you? It fills a segment? 494 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: Is that not honest? I like me? It does not 495 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: fill a segment. It allows us to engage with our devoted, 496 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: devoted and devout listeners. Inclusivity, shut up of the listener 497 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: in the viewer. I'm gonna let our expert host Kyle 498 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: handle this this year. Okay, you're killing it so far, 499 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: so just keep it rolling on top of it, I guess. Okay. 500 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: So the first one I kind of want to go 501 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: with is we talked a little bit about safeties and 502 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: who's going to be Avai come pick seventeen for the Cowboys, 503 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: and we had I'm having trouble finding the actual tweet, 504 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: but somebody this morning, very early was ready for the 505 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: draft show and they asked, would you rather have one 506 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: of the safeties in the first round at seventeen or 507 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: trade that pick for Jamal Adams. Now, I feel like 508 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: this is a common question that has been thrown out 509 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: there recently, really as the Cowboys fell to seventeen. Is 510 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: that realistic in your eyes? Is it realistic? Probably? Probably 511 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: if you could get a Mark Juft, No, I wouldn't 512 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: do it. And I'm a gigantic Ellis hue Homer. I 513 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: love Jamal Adams. I think the world of him, but 514 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: it's just it's cap resources at this point. Because this 515 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: is a team that's going to have to pay a 516 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: bunch of big contracts out Dak Prescott and Mary Cooper. 517 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: They're going to have to sign some other free agents, 518 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: and Jamal Adams is eligible to renegotiate now. He could 519 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: do that right now if he wanted to. He finished 520 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: his third season last week or two weeks ago. And 521 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: I just don't like the idea of immediately having to 522 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: pay a guy. Like the beauty of a first round 523 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: pick is that you get four, if not five years 524 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: of very cheap production, hopefully at a Pro Bowl level. 525 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,959 Speaker 1: You're not getting that with Jamal Adams. They're already they 526 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: already didn't get that with a Mariy Cooper. I don't 527 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: like the idea of having to do that twice. I 528 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: could not have entered that better myself. I mean, Dave 529 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: said Zach Potting. Yeah, no, Dave said that exactly. Now. 530 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: Jeff is the wild card. These two are cowards. I'd 531 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: like to announce right now that I also am a coward. 532 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah they're good. You're gonna look up like you look up. 533 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: It's like how much cap space to the covers? I 534 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: was like, well, they could roll over this much and 535 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: they got eighty million dollars and oh am, I goodness, 536 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: they have so much money and it's like, wait, you 537 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: haven't accounted for and just go down the list. Do 538 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: you like Robert Quinn, you like Dak you like Marie 539 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: Cooper and all these different guys and the like, even 540 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: the guys that they've recently given the big deals to. 541 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: They're big numbers haven't even hit yet. They're about to, right, 542 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: and it's like, I get the temptation, but you would 543 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: have to basically sign them on a credit card. You'd 544 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: have to you would have to start sneaky. The sneaky 545 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 1: storyline here is the pressure is on this front office 546 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: to draft really well. And I've seen you talk about 547 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: this on Twitter, Jeff. But they've been good more often 548 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: than bad since Will McClay took over in twenty fourteen, 549 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: but their hit rate hasn't been perfect, and it's going 550 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: to catch up with them with all these contracts that 551 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: they have to pay out. Sure, because you need to 552 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: get cheap production. If you're going to be paying top 553 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: of the line salaries to half of your starting roster 554 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: and giving away first round pick to a guy that's 555 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: going to need a new contract very soon is just 556 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: not a great way to accomplish that goal. In my opinion, 557 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: this was the most courageous act of cowardice I've ever 558 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: seen because with the Jamal Adams being tantalizing over there, 559 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: we all did the right thing right there. But if 560 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: I can I mean, I don't even and I love 561 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams. I just if I can get and we'll 562 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: just use Grant Delpit because we're already talking about him. 563 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: If I can get Grant Delpit for five years at 564 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,719 Speaker 1: a fraction of the cost, why wouldn't I do that? 565 00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: Do you think? Because he will be a better play. 566 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: He could be, and I even remotely close to Jamal 567 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: Adams though, I mean, it's tough to tell. It's draft. 568 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: It's kind of a gamble. Regardless, I think Jamal, I mean, 569 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams was a better player coming out of school. 570 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: Delpots tape is good, it is, and that's that's the 571 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: crazy thing is Jamal Adams went top five. Derwin James 572 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: is I mean, I know he's spent a lot of 573 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: this year hurt, but Derwin James is comparable and he 574 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: fell to seventeen. I think Grant Delpit could be a 575 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: comparable player. And that's why I'm I'm comfortable not taking 576 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: that risk. It's all. The only question with him is 577 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: tackling the range. Is there the instincts are there. He 578 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: can blitz off the edge, he can cover anywhere you 579 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: ask him to cover. Tackling is the only issue, and 580 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: he was hurt this year. I trust the fact. I'm 581 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: not saying Delpot's gonna be Adams, but I'm saying I 582 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: have no problem if that's where things fall, and he's 583 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: my best player at seventeen, I will take him because 584 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: he The tape is good for him on a two 585 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: year scale. You have to go back and you have 586 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: to watch him twenty eighteen tape on him, but it 587 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: is good. The Cowboys have n't picked this high since 588 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: they drafted Zeke and then Zach Martin in twenty fourteen. 589 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: Like they've been picking in the twenties for a lot 590 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: of the time, and it's it hasn't worked out that 591 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: well for him. Like when they were back at the 592 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: end of the first round they picked Tacco when they 593 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: didn't have a first round pick, they picked Tristan Hill. 594 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: I like the idea of giving them not a great 595 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: first round pick, but as good as they've had in 596 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: a while, have first round, they'll have a first round 597 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: graded guy. Yeah, exactly. That's not true when you're picking 598 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: in the twenties most well not most time. It sometimes 599 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: like if you're picking at twenty seven or whatever, you Taco, 600 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: wasn't a first round graded right? Exactly? Like there will 601 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: be mature and hit that little button. I thought it 602 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: was a hold down the radio professional in the room. Well, 603 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: the radio professional are cough button. You have to hold 604 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: it to cough and then you just let it go. 605 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: This one's a tapper, so you have to tap it. 606 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: Shout out to Charles Tapper. So anyway, what I was 607 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: saying for a long time while no one could hear, 608 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: is if you're picking at seventeen, you can almost guarantee 609 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are going to have a first round graded 610 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: player to pick. Yeah, unless they pick for need instead 611 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: of the best player. You're worried about that, aren't you. 612 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: I I'm terrified about that. There's a reason that we 613 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: gave you the Layton Vanderish picked way before it happened. 614 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: There's a reason we gave you the Tristan Hill pick 615 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: way before it happened because we knew who they were taking. 616 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: Because if you follow the bread trail correctly, you can 617 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: find out who they're taking. But that's always been true, 618 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: and that was the same. I mean, Zack Martin was 619 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: on a short list the year they picked him. Byron 620 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: Jones was on a shortlist the year they picked him. Like, 621 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: they're always going to identify guys that they love who 622 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: fit a need. But Byron, we were crossing off names 623 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: as we went, and I believe it was Philadelphia picked 624 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: Aglar and we started high fiving where Cowboys can get 625 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: Byron like those to me, when if everybody's high fiving 626 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: about it, that's different than well, that's who they're taking. 627 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: I just feel like there's always going to be a 628 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: shortlist of guys they love that fit their needs, because 629 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: I mean that's the biggest myth in the draft right, 630 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: Like everybody's drafting for need. Otherwise you would I mean, 631 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: you know, if the best running back in the draft, 632 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: if DeAndre Swift fell to them them, let's go, they 633 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: would draft him. But they won't do that. We know 634 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: they won't. Let no stop it. Okay, I have nineteen 635 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: first round graded players right now, and that it's still 636 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: working through the million wide receivers in this draft. So 637 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: nineteen wide receivers, you've gotten there. Three I think you 638 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: get it right. I just I really like their odds 639 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: of finding a player they love who is also deserving 640 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: of that pick at seventeen. I agree because I think 641 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: this year we'll end up talking about Alabama corner, LSU corner, 642 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: Florida corner, and we'll be going then grant help at 643 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: Nixavier McKinney, the Alabama safety, and like r we're gonna 644 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: have there's probably gonna be a secondary player from LSU 645 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: or Alabama with a first round right in the face. 646 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: Everything else off edge rushers. Don't concern you. Let me 647 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: do this because yeah, we've answered. We've answered one question. 648 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: Tweeted at us and said, with the possibilities, of course 649 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: of moving to three four edge rushers, anybody kind of 650 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: stand out to you early on that could potentially fill 651 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: those needs for the Cowboys. I love Terrell Us from Alabama, 652 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: but he is another Alabama guy who's gonna need medical 653 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: recheck action. Gosh, but he is. You get beat up 654 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: in Alabama, You get beat up in Alabama. They play 655 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: it hard at Alabama. But man, he is And if 656 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: you're moving to a three four, he probably makes more 657 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: sense than a three four because he's undersized, isn't pulling 658 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: up my notes to get his weight right? There right 659 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: now at two fifty eight. Right now, we'll see what 660 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: it turns out. Now he had been hurt, but he's 661 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: hurt his knee. He tore his ACL in twenty eighteen. 662 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: But when you go watch the tape this year, you're 663 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: sitting there watching just a guy with long arms and 664 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: the juice around the end. I mean, Terrell Lewis is 665 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: the guy that would make me go, Okay, well, don't 666 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: worry about Robert Quinn now, just let him be a 667 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: free agent. I mean he is a freak and he's 668 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: very fun. If you go watch this tape, he's very fun. 669 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 1: The speed rusher dynamic to go to pair with DeMarcus Lawrence, 670 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: I love that seventeen Maybe early because there are health questions, Yeah, 671 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: but man Terrell Lewis is very very interesting. Do you sorry? 672 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: Go ahead? What if you failed to fifty one? Though? 673 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: Is there is there any chance of him fallowing the 674 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: ficial with pass rushers? I just don't think he falls 675 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: that far. Okay, I mean again early because he's like 676 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: mid thirties right now. Maybe. I mean I have a 677 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: first on my board and I'm different, so I have 678 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: a first round grade on him. He is my third 679 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: best pass rusher in this draft. Wow, um, it's Chase Young. 680 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: It's aj Epinessa from Iowa. Yeah, who's more of a 681 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, he's a heavier guy's he's a really good 682 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: run player, less of a speed rusher off the edge. 683 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: Terrell Lewis is kind of that week side defensive end 684 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: just get around the edge, the birsty guy, and that 685 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: was fine and long. It's just there's a lot to 686 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: work with there. And I think he makes a lot 687 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: of sense whether they're in a four three or well. See, 688 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: I mean Jeff already said he has a suspicion they 689 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: go three four and you and I think that maybe 690 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: even if they did that, it wouldn't be right now, 691 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: which yeh, I don't if they were too draft and 692 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: edge rusher, and that would be curious. I mean, okay, 693 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: that is there anybody else that fits that bill? Because 694 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: I aj Epinessa Iowa and then the other one is 695 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: yet to gross Smatos from Penn State. Neither one of 696 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: those guys really strike me as rush linebackers. No, I 697 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: don't say that with Matos, but I think Matos is 698 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: closer to that than Epinessa, just because he's a little 699 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: bit lighter, you know, But I mean when you start 700 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: to look at like epinessa is a pure four three guy, 701 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: he's going to be a fourth run strong defensive and 702 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 1: he's a better run defender than he is a pass 703 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: rusher to be honest, m but he's an overall really 704 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: good player. I mean, there, you go to second round, 705 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: there's some names there, and do those guys start to 706 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: shoot up the board just because of the lack of 707 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: la rushing. But I swear to God, I'm not doing 708 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: this because I went to LSU. Have you watched Calevan 709 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: Chason yet? Yes? I have, because that's a I mean, 710 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: that's a three four guy all the way, and he is. 711 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: He makes a lot of sense. But I like Terrell 712 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: Lewis way more than I like him. Yeah, I have Chase, 713 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: I've got me. I've got a second round grade on Jason. 714 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 1: I think Chason is purely like an athleticism pick. Like, yeah, 715 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: I mean his production has been fine this year, but like, 716 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: if you're drafting him, it's on the upside more than 717 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: what he's done. I think that's a position they're gonna 718 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: have to look at, though, because what happens if you 719 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 1: don't bring Robert Quinn Back and DeMarcus Lawrence gets hurt. Yeah, 720 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: or anything happens Dawrence and Joe Jackson and whatever. Tyrone 721 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: Crawford might be able to offer you, depending on his 722 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: health and his contract status. Yeah, I mean, much like cornerback. 723 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: That's a sneaky need depending on what you do in 724 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: free agents, much like d tackle, not much like safety. 725 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 1: Who's gonna play defense for this team? Well, the defensive 726 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: tackle right now, you would have exclusive rights free agent 727 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: Antoine Woods and Tristan Hill. That's your d tackles to 728 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: work to do. They got a lot of work to do. 729 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: But you get to spend money too. You don't just 730 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: have to draft any more. Questions, Kyle, Yeah, So Braun asked, 731 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: and this is the question of the questions, especially for you. 732 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: He said, what are the chances, if any, that the 733 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys let Amari Cooper walk and hope that lamb Rugs 734 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: or Judy fall to seven. Well, that would not be 735 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: my dream. My dream involves dropping forty burgers. Which the way, yeah, 736 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 1: the way that you do that is you tag Amari 737 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: Cooper and you draft a receiver in the first round. 738 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: But that would put Randall Cobb on the bench. So 739 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: like now, I just I don't know if it'll make sense. 740 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: He could be your punt returner slash spot duty fourth receiver, 741 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 1: much like Tavon Austin. Yeah, but there's there's a better 742 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: role in the NFL for Randall Cobb than that. You're right, 743 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: he's he deserves to be a starter. So I old 744 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: team would lack him back right now, there you go. 745 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: So um, I guess it would require saying, you know what, 746 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: we want to save our eighteen to twenty million dollars 747 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: a year, We're gonna move on from Mary Cooper. And 748 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: that's dangerous business because for all of the questions and 749 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: I do have questions that shopped up the last three 750 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: or four weeks of the year, he's still saved your 751 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: season a year before that, and he's still an eleven 752 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 1: hundred yard guy that helped probably your other guy get 753 00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: eleven hundred yards. I can't. I do think there are 754 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 1: two guys in this draft that you would not be 755 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: insane if you said, I think as a rookie they're 756 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: gonna have a thousand yards Judy and who probably Yeah, 757 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,959 Speaker 1: I think those two have legitimate chance to be number 758 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: one receivers really quickly. Why do you leave Rugs off 759 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: that list? I mean, he's college production when you have 760 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: seven hundred yards this year, Yeah, I mean I love 761 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: the speed, and I think that's why he goes in 762 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 1: the first round because the rest of the traits aren't 763 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: like for him, You're just going to focus on the 764 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: dude's gonna run a four two. He's gonna run a 765 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: four to two. He outruns angles. He's a freak show, 766 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 1: and that gives him a chance to catch back shoulder 767 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: fades and slants with huge opportunities because people are bailing. Um. 768 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: But those other guys, you're talking about everything you want 769 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: from a receiver, strength after catch, balance, we're out running 770 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: catch point, and with Rugs it's more well. Tyreek Hill 771 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,919 Speaker 1: scores really long touchdowns and he'll get to do it too. 772 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: Can Rugs turn or not as well as Judy and Lambs? 773 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: Not as well as those guys. I don't think he's 774 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: but because he's busy going much faster, he just catches 775 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: the ball and looks around and goes, Okay, none of 776 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: you can catch me. I'll go that way. And I 777 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: think that's why I was seven hundred yards. Who was 778 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: the third receiver on his own team is going to 779 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: go in the first round because that speed is game changing. 780 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: If you don't want to sign Amari Cooper long term, 781 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: that's fine. I understand your reservations. But I can't imagine 782 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: this team being even as good as they were last year, 783 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: which wasn't that good by the way, without him. That's 784 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: the problem. I think. I go back to what Jerry 785 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: said about when our buddy Bryan was asking him on 786 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: the radio. He asked him about what all goes into 787 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: the guys you signed to, and he's part of his 788 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,280 Speaker 1: answer was I think about what's the worst case scenario 789 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: if I don't And the worst case scenario without a 790 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: Mari is not nearly as scary as the worst case 791 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 1: scenario without Dak or anything. But it is scary if 792 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: you went, well, Michael Gallup, it turns out can't get 793 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: eleven hundred yards as the number one guy. Yeah, I'm 794 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: not ready to put that pressure on him, right, So 795 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: the worst case is somewhat scary. So in Jerry's own words, 796 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper is probably gonna be here. Yeah. I think 797 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: Amari and Dhaker here very few, if any questions asked. 798 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: All Right, one more question, This is from Hyatt. Is 799 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: this a trade up kind of draft or a trade 800 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: back kind of draft? If you're Dallas at seventy, all right, 801 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: who do you trade like? Who do you trade up for? 802 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: Okuda would be a guy that you would trade up. 803 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: All State Corner might go top five, and I would 804 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: say I would throw Derek Brown, the defensive tackle from Auburn, 805 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: would be in the mix there, because I think that's 806 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: a game changer. And there's another guy who could play 807 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: four three or three four. You talk about like we 808 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: are not knowing what's going to happen. If the Dallas 809 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys traded up for a defensive tackle, I don't care 810 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: who it is. It could be, could be a Dominican sue. 811 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: That would be nuts. And that's the thing I mean, Okay, 812 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: I like both of those names a lot. I'd love 813 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: if both of them could play on this defense. But 814 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: and okay, I mean the Cowboys trade up for Mo 815 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: claiborne not that long ago. You don't have to trade 816 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: up for a quarterback like that is always the common theme. 817 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: But I still I just like I just said, like 818 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: I just I'm looking at these names and I feel 819 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 1: so confident that a great player will be there at seventeen. 820 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: It would have to be something wild to make me 821 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: think they would do that, And I'm counting on I 822 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: reserve the right to change my mind as I learn 823 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,280 Speaker 1: more about this draft. But you're locked in counting jeff 824 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: in earlier because he's named a name. He said this 825 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: is who they're gonna draft. I just want to see 826 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 1: if he's right. Help it. Yeah, that'd be fun. Yeah, 827 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have a problem with Delpa there. But is 828 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: there an edge rusher that you love enough that you 829 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: would trade up from seventeen? I mean not counting Chase Young. Obviously, 830 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 1: Chase Young's the guy I think I'm trading up. That's 831 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: not happening. EPINESSA. I don't think I'm doing that. I 832 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: think I'll see if he can fall to me. But 833 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think what you said about Okuda's right. 834 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: I mean Okuda is probably we're talking about a gap 835 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: potentially could be a top five. You kind of get 836 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: marsha On Latimore type vibes. I mean, he does not 837 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 1: get beaten coverage. The draw is a good man coverage corner. 838 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: Is the drop off so severe that you would trade 839 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: up and give up something valuable instead of just taking 840 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: Trevon Diggs or Christian Fulton at seventeen. I'm trying to 841 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: collect as many picks as possible. I think that's the 842 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: way to go. And I think in this draft you're 843 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: you do have potential that some other quarterbacks join. Yeah, 844 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,720 Speaker 1: And I just think you're going to get position players 845 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,240 Speaker 1: to fall to where you're picking. The eleventh, twelve, thirteen 846 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 1: is gonna channel. I'm gonna channel my guy brought us 847 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: and just be like, let the board come to me, 848 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: Let the board, let the draft come to me. Now, 849 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, let's see where we're at in two much 850 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 1: because January ninth thinks you're going to change. The Senior 851 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: Bowl is gonna be huge for for a lot of 852 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: those quarterbacks, some of them Jordan Love and Justin Herbert specifically. 853 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: That is going to be so huge for them because 854 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: I guarantee you maybe because he's not a first round pick, 855 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: he's skyrocket as much as I don't think. I mean, 856 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: but it would, but it'll be big for him. I 857 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: think going into it, most people are gonna look at 858 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: him like, you can't throw? Would you trade up for 859 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: Simmons the Clemson linebacker? If you're not up on names yet. 860 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: But if you're listening to this, I bet you are. 861 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons is awesome, awesome, and I don't think you 862 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: even have to identify what he is no like, because 863 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: if if you get Layton vander esh back at full strength, 864 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,720 Speaker 1: okay uh, and then you can play as AA Simmons 865 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,280 Speaker 1: as a safety, as a as a slot strong safety, 866 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: nickel linebacker or whatever anywhere. He cover every He's He's 867 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: one of these modern age football players where it's like 868 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: he can basically play everything in the back seven except 869 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: for boundary quir I have I don't know if I 870 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: have faith in that now. In the old regime, I 871 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: did not have faith in them using that player the 872 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: right way. Yeah, but it's it's a beautiful day from 873 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 1: the last. That's from the last regime. That's a Jason 874 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: Garrett thing. Oh he were doing. It's a new day. 875 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,479 Speaker 1: Yes it is. Yeah, I'm intrigued by that. I still 876 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 1: I can't. On January ninth, I would be surprised if 877 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: there was somebody they wanted to trade up for. No 878 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: trade up, so stay put, no trade Um. I would 879 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 1: if anything, vote trade trade back to twenty five because 880 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 1: if we lose our ones what if you lose your 881 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 1: round graded player, don't trade away from a first round 882 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: graded player. That's the fun of it. Yeah, maybe you've 883 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 1: got twenty one first round graded players. You get to 884 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: seventeen and you've still got like six of them left, 885 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 1: and you're like, hey, we can we can dance. Well, 886 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,879 Speaker 1: the Raiders picked twice in that area too, and they'll 887 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 1: draft some guys who are like way ahead of when 888 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: they should probably draft. They'll draft a bad player early, 889 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: So I also do that. Look, there's a lot of 890 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: teams in front of you too, that historically it makes 891 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: some weird draft decisions. So like, I think you could 892 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: just sit there and maybe some second third round players 893 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 1: get taken in front of you. It's my memory bad. 894 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: They Okay, they didn't have a pick last year. They 895 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 1: gave it away for Mary. They haven't traded away from 896 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: their first round spot since twenty thirteen. They did it 897 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: in back to back years, they traded back for Frederick 898 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: and up for Mokay, they have not done it since. 899 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: I don't believe. I don't think they'd do it again. 900 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: I think they'll sit there and it'd be a weird 901 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 1: spot to trade out of. Yeah, because I think you're 902 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: sitting right towards the end of your first round graded players, 903 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: and you're not gonna want to You're not gonna want 904 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,320 Speaker 1: to move from that. It'd be a bigger risk to 905 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 1: trade back rather than even the amount that you could 906 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: trade up for that. It's a draft. Were some areas 907 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: that you need and that's the fun of it. Guys, 908 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: like go back a couple of years. You're like, oh, 909 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: we're back here at twenty seven. We're right at the 910 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,240 Speaker 1: edge of like the cutoff is right there, Like where's 911 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 1: Tach McKinley. We need him. But you're right in the 912 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: thick of it at seventeen. I mean, it would be 913 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,720 Speaker 1: more fun if they were twelve, don't get me wrong, 914 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: But you're right in the thick of where all the 915 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: good players are. And I know we gotta get to 916 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 1: the third segment real quickly. I just want to say 917 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: it was a lot like that Zach Martin draft where 918 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: I know Johnny Manzel got a lot of the headlines, 919 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 1: but Ryan Shazier he falls to us. Maybe that's the guy. 920 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,720 Speaker 1: Maybe Zach Martin's the guy here. Maybe it's Javon Kinlaw, 921 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,720 Speaker 1: maybe it's Delpus, Maybe it's one of the corners. Super 922 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: excited about pilities. Yeah, there's a lot of possibilities and 923 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: we'll talk about a little bit more of that. We're 924 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,280 Speaker 1: gonna go into some of the position needs of guys 925 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: who will or will not be here free agency wise, 926 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: kind of like we talked about with Amari Cooper and 927 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: the wide receivers. Just a moment ago, that was Twitter 928 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: on the twenty. We'll be back with more Dallas Cowboys 929 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 1: Draft Show presented by Miller Light Here in a moment, 930 00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:12,320 Speaker 1: good questions. 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Yeah, there's like 969 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 1: nine of them in here. But we we've talked a 970 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: lot about the Cowboys and exactly what positions they want 971 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 1: to talk about and where they want to go in 972 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 1: terms of the first round. But really as a draft 973 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 1: as a whole, I want to get into to McCarthy 974 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,320 Speaker 1: and how things are going to change. We've talked about 975 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: four three verses three four what could potentially change defensively, 976 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: But is there any shift on the offensive side of 977 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 1: the football that Mike McCarthy and this new staff could 978 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 1: potentially employee going into this draft. I don't know if 979 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 1: I know enough about McCarthy for a lot, but he 980 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: didn't even have the input Kevin Turner probably does. Yeah, 981 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,359 Speaker 1: so he didn't have the input. That is a good point. 982 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 1: It's interesting to see that they're bringing in Joe Philbin 983 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: as the offensive line coach, and he same type of 984 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,240 Speaker 1: zone type scheme, likes to get the offensive lineman moving, 985 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: pulling guards, things like that. He used kind of this 986 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 1: offensive lineman's athleticism for a couple more years as they 987 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 1: are aging kind of slowly. You know what happened with 988 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: McCarthy's offense is it changed so much over the years, 989 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: and it was so much of it let the quarterback 990 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 1: handle it at the line of scrimmage type of thing, 991 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: which caused some chaos in Green Bay. But you didn't 992 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,279 Speaker 1: see as much route combinations that you would want to 993 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: see here of like crossers and traffic and things like 994 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 1: that over the middle. So and you saw it in 995 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,439 Speaker 1: his last few years in Green Bay, saw a team 996 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 1: get away from running the football. They got behind a lot. 997 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 1: I don't know how much is going to change. I 998 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 1: think you're gonna see a guy wh used two running 999 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 1: backs a lot. He's not going to force a tight 1000 00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 1: end on the field, which we've seen here quite a bit. 1001 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 1: He won't do that. He's all about using three wide receivers. 1002 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 1: Two running backs, four wide receivers, five wide receivers, don't 1003 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 1: see sets. That's oh. I mean you, you, as somebody 1004 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,760 Speaker 1: who has followed the Packers, would be a good person 1005 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 1: to ask, like, should you buy more into the idea 1006 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: that you know Eddie Lacy was a dynamic, league leading 1007 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,720 Speaker 1: type of running back eleven twelve hundred yards, scored twenty 1008 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 1: four touchdowns in two years. Or the last impression of 1009 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 1: the Mike McCarthy Packers, which is that they got away 1010 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 1: from the running game all the time, I would say neither. 1011 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 1: Go back to the year they won the Super Bowl. 1012 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 1: Their running backs were Ryan Grant and Brandon Jackson, and 1013 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,839 Speaker 1: they found a way they used the run as more 1014 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: of a get your four or five yards to make 1015 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: things manageable. Now, whether that's running the ball in first 1016 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: down or second down doesn't matter, but it's almost like 1017 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 1: they use the run to set up the pass at 1018 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 1: all times. It's never one of those things where it's like, Hey, 1019 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: we're really going to come and dominate you at the 1020 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,279 Speaker 1: running game, and that's kind of what we've been asking for. 1021 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of people who may not 1022 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 1: feel that way, especially how this year went. Yeah, but 1023 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be that type of team says, well, 1024 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 1: this is what we do, we run the ball. I 1025 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 1: don't think that's going to happen. Another thing, I'm a 1026 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 1: little bit and I hear what you're saying, Like the 1027 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 1: Packers seem like they've been four wide for years because 1028 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,720 Speaker 1: they win with Aaron Rodgers. But at the same time, 1029 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: it hasn't necessarily worked. But like they've put resources into 1030 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: tight end. I mean, they brought in Jimmy Graham, they 1031 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 1: brought in Martellis Bennett before him, they had Jeremichael Finley 1032 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 1: for the longest time. Yeah, they drafted Jay Sternberger last year. 1033 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 1: I don't think he was hurt. He hadn't had a 1034 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 1: chance to make a big impact. But it seems like 1035 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 1: a position that they've tried to address. Yeah, they tried, 1036 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 1: and you know what they used. You know, jer Michael 1037 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 1: Finley was used as you know, a kind of a 1038 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 1: chess piece though, a matchup guy. You know, here you 1039 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,759 Speaker 1: had Witten and you kind of know that he's not 1040 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 1: gonna be a matchup guy. Jarwin could be that matchup 1041 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: guy that you could use here and there, And I 1042 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: think it'll be interesting. I think the way that they 1043 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 1: use some of those formations will be way different than 1044 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,799 Speaker 1: what we've seen. But it'll be interesting to see if 1045 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 1: Kellen stays and how much input he has. You know, 1046 00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 1: if Mike McCarthy does have say in the draft room, 1047 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: they're going to be looking for something offensively, I would imagine, 1048 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,319 Speaker 1: Or does he have say in free agency and that's 1049 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,279 Speaker 1: where Randall cop comes back into play and all those 1050 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 1: types of things. He'll try to keep Randall Cop here 1051 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,360 Speaker 1: if he's got to say, well, and a lot of 1052 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 1: people are looking at maybe a third or a fourth 1053 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 1: round pick, looking at a tight end, and you talk 1054 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 1: about the fact of wanting two running backs, three wide 1055 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 1: receivers on the field not necessarily forcing a tight end. 1056 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 1: Does that mean they stay put in terms of Blake 1057 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 1: Jarwin and Dalton Schultz see what they have. They're assuming 1058 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,359 Speaker 1: that Witton retires. That's not, of course an official thing 1059 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,959 Speaker 1: by any means. But if he's done, do they stick 1060 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 1: with Jarwin and don't waste a pick on tight end? 1061 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 1: If McCarthy's at the helm, I don't think they would 1062 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: do that either, even whether McCarthy was here or not. 1063 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 1: I think you would try to stick it out with Jarwin, 1064 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,239 Speaker 1: maybe try to fill a gap and free agency or 1065 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 1: late in the draft, because let's face it, there's some bigger, 1066 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 1: bigger holes to fills. Are set it done. Once the 1067 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: roster starts rolling over, there's gonna be some bigger issues 1068 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,360 Speaker 1: at play than tight end. This might be a lucky 1069 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 1: I get. I say lucky because by the virtue of 1070 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 1: who's coming out, like, it doesn't sound like there's a 1071 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,880 Speaker 1: first round tight end like this is not the Noah 1072 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: t J Hockinson and Noah fan draft. Yeah, the Washington guy, 1073 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 1: the Washington guys, my top right tight end guy. I 1074 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 1: will say since Cole Commit commit coming out, he's coming 1075 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 1: out and that just now happened in the last couple 1076 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,439 Speaker 1: of days, so I haven't watched him yet. And Hunter 1077 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 1: Bryant from Washington. Hunter Bryant from Washington, I like, and 1078 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,879 Speaker 1: I think your your comp there is maybe a poor 1079 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 1: man's Evan Ingram type guy because he's a matchup guy. 1080 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 1: He's not an inline blocker type. Well that's what I 1081 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,719 Speaker 1: want he is. I don't match up. I'm over. I'm 1082 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 1: over the traditional use of the tight end. I want 1083 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 1: to tight end who can line up in the slot. 1084 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 1: And I don't think the coach is going to demand 1085 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 1: that you put two tight ends out there and run 1086 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,440 Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, Bryson Hopkins is from Purdue, who's my 1087 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 1: third round tight end? I like him. I think he 1088 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 1: can block a little bit. He's not the most fluid 1089 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 1: guy of all time. And then Dan's gonna try to 1090 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,280 Speaker 1: sell you on Troutman, the small school guy from Dayton 1091 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,360 Speaker 1: after the Shaheen situation. I'm staying away. Dane falls in 1092 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,439 Speaker 1: love with a tight end from a school nobody's heard 1093 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,399 Speaker 1: of every year. It's fine. I like, wait what I'm 1094 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,880 Speaker 1: hearing about that? Though, because like, tight end is not 1095 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 1: a position I would want to use a first round 1096 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,879 Speaker 1: pick on Blake Jarwin is fine for me, And I mean, 1097 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm basically assuming Jason Winden isn't coming back. I guess 1098 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,359 Speaker 1: I shouldn't do that. Would you spend a third round 1099 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 1: pick on them? Though? You said no first round, which 1100 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 1: is fine? Absolutely? Kick? Do we know where they pick 1101 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,799 Speaker 1: in the third yet it's two into fifth round. Let's 1102 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 1: talk about fifth round? Portland State? What name you guys 1103 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 1: just went after Dane? I was gonna say, and you're 1104 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 1: just trying to impress people, Charlie to my Portland State guy. 1105 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:46,400 Speaker 1: I am watching round Portland State already watching Portland State players. 1106 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:47,960 Speaker 1: It's the first show of the year. I love it. 1107 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,760 Speaker 1: Where'd you find that tape? Oh? Actually yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, 1108 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 1: but I have access to that Okay State. I know 1109 00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 1: we spent five minutes talking about the posibility of drafting 1110 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 1: a tackle, but like other than tight end or maybe 1111 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: a slot receiver depending on Ranald Copp's future. Like, it's 1112 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 1: hard to imagine a first round pick being on offense 1113 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 1: otherwise wide receiver. That's it. And that's what's so intriguing 1114 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 1: because I think the value is going to be insane. 1115 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,839 Speaker 1: The value is going to be nuts at receiver, right, Yeah, 1116 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: now you agree with that's almost a first round It's 1117 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 1: almost a reason not to take a first round wide 1118 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 1: receiver because I mean, Jeff, you've been working on the 1119 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:31,359 Speaker 1: wide receivers pretty heavily. I know it's still early, and yeah, 1120 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of good ones, a lot, 1121 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 1: but to me, there is Ceedee Lamb and Jerry Judy 1122 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 1: and then I would put a little, a little break 1123 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 1: there before you get to Henry Rugs and maybe put 1124 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,839 Speaker 1: Te Higgins right there with Rugs, and then I would 1125 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,759 Speaker 1: have another gap and you go down to what do 1126 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 1: you get here? Ayuk and Rager and Channault. What do 1127 00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,359 Speaker 1: you think about Ayouk from Randon? Ayouks from Arizona state him, 1128 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 1: But I'm not done with him. I gotta I like 1129 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 1: him a lot. But it seems like it's very big 1130 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 1: play based, which is very much based on take something 1131 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 1: short and take it to the house. I think the 1132 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,479 Speaker 1: odds that are very very talented wide receiver is there. 1133 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 1: It's good at seventeen, I think, and it's also good 1134 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,399 Speaker 1: at fifty one. I just I mean, this is gonna 1135 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,720 Speaker 1: be a that if you're talking about storylines for the draft, 1136 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,400 Speaker 1: it might just be how many insane, insanely good wide receivers. 1137 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,800 Speaker 1: Gallop year is a great example of how wide receivers, 1138 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 1: good wide receivers can fall to you. Sure, what about 1139 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: day three though? You're talking for a second or third round, 1140 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 1: and I mean, if you're retaining Cooper, you have Gallop, 1141 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,920 Speaker 1: you bring back Cobb, then that's likely where a receiver pick. Actually, 1142 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna go day three. Are there anybody that 1143 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,359 Speaker 1: you're Is there anybody that you're looking at in day three? 1144 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 1: Keeping on kJ Hill from Ohio State and he will 1145 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 1: be a Senior Bowl guy. Gandy Golden and he's from Liberty, Antonio. 1146 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: Gandy Golden, but he's more of the bigger, can't separate 1147 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,360 Speaker 1: type of guy, you know. You know, it also is 1148 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,399 Speaker 1: going to depend what they want. You know, do they 1149 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,400 Speaker 1: want a size guy on the outside. Do they want 1150 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 1: a separation guy? Like I think, if there's anything and 1151 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,399 Speaker 1: if you know, I think we've we've kind of seen 1152 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,560 Speaker 1: this over the years, is you can really help your 1153 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,799 Speaker 1: quarterback out more than anything by just getting a separator. 1154 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 1: And I'm looking for more of those guys than I am, 1155 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 1: the big size guys, especially when I'm kind of considering 1156 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 1: in my own head gallop a size guy on the outside. Okay, 1157 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,320 Speaker 1: but follow me here, because I'm looking at the contract 1158 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 1: chart for the Dallas Cowboys. They have one two, three, four, 1159 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 1: five six seven impending free agents on their defensive line, 1160 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 1: and to Jeffrey's point, I hate to give it to them, 1161 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 1: but they have one two, three, four, five, six seven 1162 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,759 Speaker 1: eight pending free agents in their secondary and I just 1163 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,880 Speaker 1: have a hard time believing we can sneak one offensive 1164 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:58,440 Speaker 1: pick and the sneak one guys, it can't be too 1165 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 1: early though, because the problem is, if we're being realistic, 1166 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 1: pick seventeen needs to be defense. It just does. And 1167 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 1: you've done if you find three starters in a draft, 1168 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,840 Speaker 1: you've done an incredible job. That's fantastic. So the idea 1169 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,239 Speaker 1: that you could be like, well, I'll use the first 1170 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 1: pick on offense and then find some defensive starters, well 1171 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 1: you might find one, and they've tried situations where they, 1172 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, try to address it in one fell swoop. 1173 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 1: Obviously the twenty seventeen draft, which you know, Cheeto, Jordan, 1174 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 1: and Xavier Woods are all playing, but you wouldn't say 1175 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 1: that those are amazing picks right now, just in terms 1176 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,439 Speaker 1: of what you're getting from them. And they're very close 1177 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 1: to having to do that again, right especially if Byron's 1178 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 1: Byron Jones and Anthony Brown, two of your three preferred 1179 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 1: starters on day one, might not be back. They gotta hit. 1180 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 1: They gotta hit on two of their first three for sure. 1181 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 1: They really and they really could use it because they're 1182 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 1: gonna need bodies and free pizza. Free agent two. Jeff 1183 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,920 Speaker 1: Ethan Woods is your only safety. Oh man, you got 1184 00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 1: one safety. I believe I was gonna I believe even Yeah, 1185 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,479 Speaker 1: even Darian Thompson, who was kind of your spot third 1186 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 1: safety is a free agent. Von's free agent. Yeah, I 1187 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 1: think you trust it though. I mean safety is going 1188 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 1: to be deeper than usually. We're gonna more top one 1189 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,920 Speaker 1: hundred safeties than we've had. Pull for Donovan Wilson. Okay, yeah, 1190 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 1: that's fine. To steal a line from the great Brad Sham. 1191 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 1: Hope is not a strategy. I think. I can't sit here. 1192 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 1: It's super desperate. Can't sit here and hope that my 1193 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 1: sixth round safety from last year blossoms. That'd be great 1194 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,800 Speaker 1: if he does. Preseason days he really did. He I 1195 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 1: had a fantastic preseason and couldn't get on the field 1196 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 1: after that. What happens with some of these guys who 1197 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 1: got drafted because they had fans on the coaching staff 1198 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 1: and those fans are no longer on those coaching That's 1199 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,919 Speaker 1: another thing too, is you know, we we have preconceived 1200 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,400 Speaker 1: notions and coaches are going to show up here in 1201 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 1: another week or two and be like, oh, that guy 1202 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 1: we don't want that guy Wilson can't play, or they're 1203 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,640 Speaker 1: gonna say, oh, this guy that they let's sit on 1204 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 1: the bench. Yeah, that guy needs to touch the ball 1205 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 1: eighty times a game. So it's twenty sixty free agents 1206 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 1: and contracts that are up. Yeah, and then you turn 1207 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,919 Speaker 1: around and it could potentially be more spots. Now, they're 1208 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 1: not gonna get rid of starters or anybody. It's not 1209 00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 1: gonna be big names. I would assume not, but I 1210 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 1: mean no, this is gonna be a massive transition. I mean, 1211 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 1: you turn a third of the roster over every year anyway. 1212 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 1: But I think I counted it up, and there's eleven 1213 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: guys that you could quantify as a starter who don't 1214 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 1: have contract Brown jumps into play too, who wasn't starting 1215 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,320 Speaker 1: at the end of the year. And then you think 1216 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 1: about guys like Sean Lee and Joe Thomas who aren't 1217 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 1: starters in name, but you needed them down the stretch. 1218 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 1: It's a lot of stuff to consider. And that's listen. 1219 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 1: I'm with Jeff, like I want I want three badass 1220 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 1: receivers who can play inside and outside, and I want 1221 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 1: to score fifty six points a game. But looking at 1222 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 1: this list, it's just hard for me to think that 1223 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,840 Speaker 1: they're not going to zero in on defenders with these 1224 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 1: first these big money picks. I also don't want to 1225 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,400 Speaker 1: give up fifty seven points per game in your scenario 1226 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 1: there exactly, and that's I mean, man, Jet, I'm gonna 1227 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:47,919 Speaker 1: hate it if Jeff is right, but I can see 1228 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 1: the logic. We have bodies at cornerback, we have bodies 1229 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 1: at the safety. And do you know that in the draft, 1230 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 1: the draft, corner and safety is gonna be It's gonna 1231 00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 1: be rich for top one hundred players. You're gonna be flying. Yeah, 1232 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if you have to reach at seventeen. 1233 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 1: You're gonna be fine at those positions at least in 1234 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 1: terms of adding what could be potentially starters. But what 1235 01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,560 Speaker 1: they do with their schemes gonna make a big difference, 1236 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 1: and that's yet to be seen yet. I'm gonna need 1237 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 1: y'all to find a Day three defensive back that we 1238 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 1: can celebrate over. And we've done it twice. We do 1239 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 1: it every Anthony Brown, Xavier Woods. We're gonna need another 1240 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 1: one because somebody's on their way out. We don't know 1241 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,840 Speaker 1: who it is, all right, cool, find a safety that's 1242 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,760 Speaker 1: half or what is that? Les? What's half of one 1243 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 1: tenth of the second. I'm already in love with the 1244 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,000 Speaker 1: tiny guy. It's interesting to see if christ Rah Shard, 1245 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 1: we can find a safety who's a little bit too 1246 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,360 Speaker 1: slow and a little bit too small, because it doesn't 1247 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 1: matter because they're good at football. That's what we did 1248 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 1: with Woods. It'll work out, and that's excited about it. 1249 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: On day three's and I know we're running out of time, 1250 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 1: but Jordan Lewis was the apple of this staff's eye, 1251 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 1: and then Chris Rahard showed up and he fell out 1252 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 1: of favor, and now we don't know if Christopher Shard 1253 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 1: will be back. Like, We're gonna have a clearer idea 1254 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 1: of what this team is looking for over the next 1255 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 1: two weeks as they finalize this coaching speak robertson Cornerback 1256 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 1: Louisiana Tech right like that, Well, we're gonna dig deeper 1257 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,360 Speaker 1: into that going into next week as well. Next week 1258 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,280 Speaker 1: we'll preview the Reese's Senior Bowlmobile Alabama. That'll be our 1259 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,680 Speaker 1: second show here of twenty twenty. But as for today, 1260 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 1: do you want to thank everybody for joining us on 1261 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,840 Speaker 1: social media? Be sure to follow David Helmet on Twitter 1262 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 1: Helmet DC. You've got Jeff Kavanaugh at JC one oh 1263 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,320 Speaker 1: five three and then Kevin Turner at KAT fun tweets 1264 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman's thanks again for joining us. We'll see 1265 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:34,880 Speaker 1: you next Thursday. This has been a production of Dallas 1266 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.