1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Your holster is way more important than you think it is. 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: It's just way more important than you think it is. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: What look, and I get that. The holsters not the 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: sexy part of carrying firearms. All right, You want to 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: talk about your weapon and your ammunition. You want to 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: talk about your safety training. You want to talk about 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: how you did at the range. Oh look at my groups. 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: I was doing these failure drills today, and all that 9 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: stuff is really important. I mean, really really important. I'm 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: not discounting that, but I've known so many people who 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: do all those things. They take all the necessary steps, 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: and then they carry with a holster they bought from 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: a big box hunting store that was made a thousand 14 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: at a time. Please don't put your life in one 15 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: of those holsters. You need to trust Northwest Retention Systems 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: because it's all custom made gear. It's the only thing 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: I carry around NW Retention dot Com. That's NW Retention 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: dot Com used to promo co Jesse gets you ten 19 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: percent off. This is a Jesse Kelly show. Oh boy, 20 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: it's time to have a day about divorce. National divorce. 21 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: You guys know that's my thing. I'm all about that. 22 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: Let's just separate Let's do the hard work now. Won't 23 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: be pleasant, won't be enjoyable. Let's get it over with now. 24 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: Not that I'm happy about it, but every single person 25 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: knows where this is going. If we don't, we're gonna 26 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: have one of our best guests, Dave Reeboy on today 27 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: to discussed that specifically, go over some of your questions 28 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: on it, and you can email me those questions. Jesse 29 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: at Jesse Kelly Show dot com. Jesse at Jesse Kelly 30 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: show dot com. Speaking of national divorces breakups, I've always 31 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: found Alexander the Great's situation to be a really, really 32 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: fascinating one because it was so vicious and ugly and 33 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: backstabbing and amazing that I like it. Here was his situation. 34 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: First of all, let's get to his father. No, everyone 35 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: talks about Alexander the Great, I mean universally, even with 36 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: our government educated society. Pretty much everyone out there knows 37 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: the name Alexander the Great, right, Chris, everybody knows that name. Everybody, Chris. 38 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: What was his father's name? Has no idea? Nobody knows 39 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: the poor freaking dad's name. Alexander the Great's father was 40 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: the man who built all of it. I'm not saying 41 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: Alexander the Great was anything less than amazing. He was amazing, 42 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: never lost a battle, incredible tactically, meaning on the battlefield. 43 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: The dude was a legend. Alexander the Great's father built 44 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: the sports car from scratch with his own two hands, 45 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: fuels it up, and then dies with Alexander holding the keys. 46 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: Now he had to get in and drive it. King 47 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: Philip the second of Macedon was a bast I guess 48 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: the dude had one eye, made him horrifying looking. He 49 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: slapped around all the other Greeks. He came up with 50 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: longer pikes, longer spears for his army. He built the 51 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: Macedonian Army or Macedonian Army, depending on how he stayed 52 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: I say Macedonian, into this absolute military juggernaut. And then 53 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: he dies, and there are a million theories about how 54 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: he died or who I should say killed him, because 55 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: we know he was assassinated. Somebody slammed a knife in 56 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: between his ribs, so that's how he died. But when 57 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: they chased down the assassin, they killed him right away. 58 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: You know, that's not really what you do, even in 59 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: the ancient world. You chase down the assassin and you 60 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: get your hands on him and then you pull his 61 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: fingernails out until you find out why he did what 62 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: he did, who paid him to do what he did. 63 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: They chased this one down dead. Oh did we forget 64 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: to interrogate him? Man? Whoops are bad? But that's another story. 65 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: Alexander the Great takes over. He eyes up Persia at 66 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 1: this point in time. Remember this is the achiemated Persian Empire, 67 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: one of the largest greatest empires in the history of 68 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: the world, and they're really kind of at their peak 69 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: right now. And Alexander says, oh, no, they're going down. 70 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: He takes a much much smaller army storms into that 71 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: area and throttles them in every possible way, winning battles 72 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: where he's outnumbered two to one and winning decisively. We 73 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: are not here to put Alexander down. Let's keep in 74 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: mind the dude was personally certainly brave. This could very 75 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: well be because he was raised to think he was 76 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: practically a god descended from Hercules. He would ride at 77 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: the head of his formation into battle and just start 78 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: killing people. Alexander the Great had pelts on his wall, 79 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: lots of them. I always love the story of Alexander 80 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: the Great being buried in Egypt. This is obviously a 81 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: long time after and the Roman legend Caesar Augustus coming 82 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: down to visit that area and asking to see Alexander 83 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: the Great's tomb just to pay his respects. The people 84 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: there asked him if he wanted to see any of 85 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: the other people buried there, you know, all the other 86 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: famous people, the Ptolemy's and things like that, and he said, 87 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: I came to see a king, not a bunch of corpses. 88 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: When the Romans revere you like that, that's something. But again, 89 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: this is not out about Alexander. Alexander the Great finishes 90 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: things off, kind of stalls out over there in the 91 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: East India, Afghanistan. It's not that he wasn't winning. It's 92 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: that his guys, at this point in time, we're looking 93 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: around as in, wow, we really conquered the known world. 94 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: We're now dying of dysenterry in the jungles of India. 95 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: Why are we here? He kind of loses support for 96 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: the campaign, stops it all, conquers the known world, promptly 97 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: dies at thirty two or thirty three, and nobody knows 98 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: why or how poison an STD some jungle disease nobody 99 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: nobody knows, but he dies. Now, this is a situation 100 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: that could be slightly applicable in a roundabout way to 101 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: maybe our situation. Here you are, and you have, at 102 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: this moment the largest wealthiest empire in the history of 103 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: the world. This is around three hundred BC. What do 104 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: you do? Alexander the Great famously did not name a 105 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 1: successor what do you do? And here's Alexander the greats 106 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: One of his great things you can say about him 107 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: turned into one of the worst things. Alexander the Great 108 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: had some outstanding generals and leaders all around him. They 109 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: were extremely close personally. Rumors abound to this day that 110 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: they were very close personally. Again, this is ancient Greece. 111 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: Anything goes baby, but be that as it may. You 112 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: have a bunch of very, very very capable men who've 113 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: been fighting with you. And now it's that awkward moment 114 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: where Alexander the Great was seated at the head of 115 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: the table and all of a sudden he falls over 116 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: and dies. And you're all looking at each other, and 117 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: you're looking at that empty chair, and you're looking at 118 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: each other, and you're looking that empty chair, and I mean, 119 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: who should have the chair? I want the chair? Do 120 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: you don't want the chair? Do you know? I don't, 121 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: But I mean I kind of do I deserve it? 122 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: I mean, do you want the chair? You shouldn't really 123 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: want the chair. You know how this goes right? Wealthy 124 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: powerful men and wealthy powerful men as in having armies 125 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: powerful ones standing behind them. It's one thing to be 126 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: a general and want to sit in that chair. It's 127 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: another thing to be a general want to sit in 128 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: that chair and have twenty thirty forty fifty thousand armed 129 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: men behind you saying our general gets to sit in 130 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: that chair. The only thing is their general wants to 131 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: sit in that chair, and he has the same thing, 132 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: and their general sits in that chair. And he has 133 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: the same thing, and their general sits in that chair. 134 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: And this period of time, we will talk about it 135 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: a hundred times on the show, because there are a 136 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: million and one little mini battles and many things we 137 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: can go over that are endlessly fascinating. But we're going 138 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: to focus on one particular breakoff of this in one 139 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: aspect of warfare I find fascinating. Hang on truth attitude. 140 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly home titlelock dot Com um, please go there 141 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: right now, and at least while you're there, just go 142 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: there and register your address, because there's a chance you're 143 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: already a victim of home title theft and you don't 144 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: even know it. You see, your home titles not a 145 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: piece of paper anymore. It exists online and these criminals 146 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: all over the place online who know what they're doing, 147 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: can get their hands on your home title and get 148 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: an extremely real looking signature of yours on it, take 149 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: it to a lending institution, take out a loan against 150 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: your title. They ride off with the cash. You have 151 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: to pay that back. This is a serious crime sweeping 152 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: the nation. Go to hometitlelock dot com used to code Jesse. 153 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: While you're there, get thirty free days of protection hometitlelock 154 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: dot com promo code Jesse. This is a Jesse Kelly show. 155 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: Like a stain on your brain, you can't get out. 156 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: Post Alexander. It was backstabbing, assassination. War after war after war. 157 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: It was ugly and one man one of the men 158 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: who emerged. There were several the Ptolemy's emerged down in Egypt. 159 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: Ptolemy Empire lasted a long time, but one of the 160 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: guys who emerged was Seleucus the first. And I've told 161 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: you this before. When it comes to history, especially especially 162 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: history this old, it's amazing to me the different stories 163 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: you can get presented to you from different sources and 164 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: presented to you as a fact. And I say this 165 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: to you because I know there's a very good chance 166 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: you geek out, or at least you're vaguely interested in 167 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: history if you listen to my political slash history show, 168 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: I want to caution you very much on something. I'm 169 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: not some historian, dude, I'm not some academic. I'm gonna 170 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: say stuff that turns out to be factually incorrect. I'm 171 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: sure I have at some point in time on the show. 172 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: But you need to be careful reading something or listening 173 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: to something and carrying it away as a fact, because 174 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: you can end up making yourself look stupid. And this 175 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: is what I mean when it comes to this today. Salucas, 176 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,599 Speaker 1: he's obviously the man they named the salucd Empire for 177 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: he started it. He's this is what the first place 178 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: I read about Salucas. This is what they said. And 179 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: this was not presented as opinion. This was presented as 180 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: this is who he was. Salucas was one of the 181 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: right hand men of Alexander, and he was the head 182 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: of Alexander's companion cavalry cavalry. Well, that's a that's a 183 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: major deal. The companion cavalry were a big, big deal. 184 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: Then I read one that said he hardly knew Alexander 185 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: at all and he was just kind of a page 186 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: and ended up coming up at the end. And that 187 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: was also presented as well, this is just the facts 188 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: something around which one of those is true. I have 189 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: no idea none. I kept ri didn't kept listening to 190 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: different things. I have no idea where Salucas the first 191 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: came from. We do know, because they all overlapped in this. 192 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: He was in command on some level by the end 193 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: of Alexander's reign, in command of something, or at least 194 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: a high up of high up officer in something. What 195 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: he commanded, how high up he was, who knows, Nobody knows. 196 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: He moves from that and begins to try to make 197 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: his way through this ugly, ugly world of this general 198 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: demanding allegiance and this general demanding allegiance and this guy 199 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: appointing you here. They end up making Seleucas a There 200 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: was a sattrap, essentially a governor of Babylon. Remember Babylon, 201 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: the greatest city maybe of all time. Also, you want 202 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: to believe the biblical version, which, let's be honest, I 203 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: always agree with the biblical version because I'm not going 204 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: to die by disagreeing with God. One of the most 205 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: evil places of all time, the most evil place of 206 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: all time, Chris, I forget exactly how it was laid 207 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: out in the Old Testament. Even you people believe that. 208 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: But Babylon was probably not a lovely lovely she'd want 209 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: to raise the kids. Nevertheless, an architectural marvel. Fun quick 210 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: side note. I have actually stood on the ground where 211 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: Babylon used to stand. Granted, when I stood there, it 212 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: was an absolute wreck of a couple pieces of stone. 213 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: This is in Iraq, but still it was kind of cool. 214 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: And people ask me, after what did you take pictures? 215 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: And I tried to explain, there's nothing really to take 216 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: pictures of. Per se, there's it's gone, all right, it's gone. 217 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: And remember this is after Babylon had been rebuilt. The 218 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: great Assyrian king went down and flooded the place and 219 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: tore the buildings down. They rebuilt it anyway, I don't 220 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: want to get sidechecked on Babylon, Chris. So Lucas makes 221 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: it out of that and starts this gigantic and and 222 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this thing is stretching from Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria 223 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: clear over to the Mediterranean. This thing is Hugh Mangus. 224 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: And this brings me to what I wanted to talk 225 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: about today, because I'm fast forward and clear through the 226 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: Seleucid Empire to the end of the Seleucid Empire, because 227 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: the end of it was a big battle called the 228 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: Battle of Magnesia. Now, Seleucus the first is long dead 229 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: by the time we get to the Battle of Magnesia. 230 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: But in the Battle of Magnesia, the Seleucid Empire is 231 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: taking on the Roman Empire. Now, why are they taking 232 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: on the Roman Empire? I didn't mention the Roman Empire earlier, 233 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: but what was happening over there. We'll remember the Roman 234 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: Empire was beginning in the beginning, while Alexander the Great 235 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: Empire was breaking up up, while it was working itself out, 236 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: Rome was beginning to rise a little. And that's being 237 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: really generous. Rome was just a place for a while, 238 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: and then they started to grow, and then they started 239 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: to grow, and then they started to grow. And while 240 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: all these people over in Alexander's empire think, think grease, 241 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: even though we're talking about Macedonia and Greece, but think 242 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: grease just to make it easier. And everything to the east, 243 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: while they're squabbling and breaking up and fighting and knifing 244 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: each other over the bat and in the back and 245 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: having war after war after war after war. I mean, 246 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: it's endless. It is endless. We will do like I said, 247 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: we will do one hundred shows on the mini battles 248 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: and things like that in it. While they're doing that, 249 00:18:54,640 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: there's somebody right there to the west, rising and rising 250 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: and rising. And finally, Rome is this juggernaut. And still 251 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: to the east, they're squabbling and fighting and they don't 252 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: seem to realize there's this juggernaut right there to the west, 253 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: and Rome isn't focusing on the east. Why aren't they 254 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: focusing on the east, Because they're fighting this place called Carthage. 255 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: You already know that story because we've talked about it 256 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: several times. They fight the first Punic War and then 257 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: they fight the Second Punic War, and what happens at 258 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: the end of the Second Punic War Hannibal pretty much 259 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: gets the heave hoe. Hannibal's done. Hannibal meets Scipio on 260 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: the battlefield. They have this long talk, then promptly loses 261 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: the Scipio, in one of if not the greatest general 262 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: who ever lived, is kind of gone, right, Only this 263 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: is the thing. He's not gone, because now these Greeks 264 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: in the east to the Second Punic War are very 265 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: aware of the problem. They have a problem they didn't 266 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: realize they were going to have. Remember Rome, when Rome 267 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: was fighting Carthage was Carthage's equal, not superior. Carthage was 268 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: a mega giant. Well, when one mega giant takes down 269 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: the other mega giant in the area, now you're looking 270 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: around and now there's one megamega giant, and he's starting 271 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: to look at you and Rome right about this time, 272 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: looks around and realizes we are the most powerful force 273 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: on the planet. Think what that's like for a country. 274 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: Now you're an American, so this will be a feeling 275 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: that really it's all you've ever known. But think what 276 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: it's like for a country throughout history when you have 277 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: a moment when you have an accomplishment and you look 278 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: around and you know, for a fact, without a shadow 279 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: of a doubt. I can take anything I want to take. 280 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: I can take anything I want. I can make any 281 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: rules I want. I can do whatever I want. That 282 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: may sound really awesome, and it is kind of cool, 283 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: probably unhealthy, though in the end. Hang on. You're never 284 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: completely ready to adopt a team for late nights writing 285 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: English papers are your teen's music taste for dinners where 286 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: they talk more on their phone than with you. For 287 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: the first time they call your mom. You're never completely 288 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: ready to adopt a teen, and you can't imagine the reward. 289 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: To learn more about adopting a teen, visit adopt us 290 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: kids dot org, brought to you by the US Department 291 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: of Health and Human Services, adopt us Kids and the 292 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: ad Council. Part time job, full time hustle, all time 293 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: Shiro to all of us, You nurture, we listen, you teach, 294 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: we thrive, You lift us spirits. But we've got a 295 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: laid down the truth. It's time for you, our Shiro, 296 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: to stretch for the stars. Start saving more for retirement 297 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: now so you can feel prepared and live your life 298 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: to the fullest. Get free tips to help boost your 299 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: retirement savings now at Asia retirement dot org slash shiro 300 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,959 Speaker 1: a message brought to you by AARP and the ad Council. 301 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: Wars Punic wars are pretty much over, but Hannibals still alive. Rome, 302 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: the massive superpower, now sets its eyes on the east 303 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: in places like the Salucid Empire and says to themselves, well, 304 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: I mean it's there, and we're not gonna act like 305 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: the Romans or just the power of hungry, greedy people here. 306 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: The Sleucid Empire looks at itself and says, well, we're 307 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: no slouch here. I think that territory you want, that's 308 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: what I want, and war it is now. This is 309 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: the part of the show. It's a little different show. 310 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: I want to focus on today. I have always and 311 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: will always find it endlessly fascinating the use of animals 312 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: in ancient warfare. I know it's sick, I know it 313 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: would be ugly. I know I'd probably turn away at 314 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: some point in time, but I want to see it. 315 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: I want to know the techniques. I want to hear it. 316 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: I am dying to know how this looked, how it operated. 317 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: Like the war dogs. The war dogs, well one, the 318 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: Romans used them, but two more specifically, the ones Cortez 319 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: brought over to conquer the Aztecs and others had these 320 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: gigantic armored war dogs that would eat people on the battlefield. 321 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: I guess the Aztecs were scared to death of them. 322 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: As you can imagine, what is that look like? What 323 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: is the technique if you're an Aztec warrior trying to 324 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: fight off a war dog? What is that? Right? Horses? 325 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: We don't think about this much because all we see 326 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: in the movies some horses, you know, you saw in Braveheart, 327 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: some horses riding into some spikes, and people ride horses around, 328 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: and horses here and horses there. But like in this 329 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: Battle of Magnesia, at one point in time, the Salucids 330 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: are vastly outnumbering the Romans. I should say seventy eighty 331 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: thousand Salucids, maybe forty fifty thousand Romans. But this is 332 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: virtually the end of the Salucid empire because they get 333 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: their butts whipped. And at one point in time, the 334 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: Roman cavalry breaks through the salucand lines on the flank, 335 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: goes by them and then turns around and rides as 336 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: hard as they can, and they smash into the back 337 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: of an infantry formation that was facing the other way. Now, 338 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: you and I have heard things like that before. But again, 339 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: to get down to the specifics of it, when's the 340 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: last time you were next to, maybe even rode or 341 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: touched a horse. Horses are huge, and they're all muscle, 342 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: and they weigh a lot, and they have hoofs that 343 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: can take your freaking head off. What does it look 344 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: like if you are already in the heat of battle, 345 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: you're adrenaline pumping, you have armor on your chests, probably 346 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: armor on your shins, you have a shield, you have 347 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: a helmet, you have a spear, maybe a little sword 348 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: on your side somewhere, and a thousand pound horse or 349 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: five come slamming into the back of you. Do you 350 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: just die right away? I'm serious? Do they just run 351 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: you right over and stomp you into the ground. What 352 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: does it look like, even if you're facing them. Horses 353 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: can be, and I mean I've wrote plenty of them, 354 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: a little intimidating just standing beside them. They can't be 355 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: because they're so big and so powerful. What if one's 356 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: riding right at you with armor on it, or at 357 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: least an armored person on top of it, and you 358 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: have a spear. What goes through your head? What's the 359 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: technique there? And lastly, as we get towards the end 360 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: of it. Here, at this Battle of Magnesia, they had 361 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: infantry each side, aide infantry each side, a cavalry. But 362 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: the Salukids were such a vast, diverse empire, you know 363 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: how how wide and far it stretched. They also had chariots. 364 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: How does that look? By the way, you and I 365 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: would think a chariot would be a huge advantage, and 366 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure it was. Many people used it for a 367 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: long time. You could picture a chariot, probably put some 368 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: spikes on the wheels, somebody, probably two people in the chariot, 369 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: so someone can fire a bow and arrow from it. 370 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: But how does the tire situation work? Have you ever 371 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,479 Speaker 1: thought about that? It's not sexy to think about, is it? 372 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: But think about your car today on a bumpy road. Now, 373 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: how about one without rubber on the tires, some old 374 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: wooden wheel. Even if there's some kind of shock absorbing system, 375 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: we can all agree it's most definitely not the shocks 376 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: on your car now, right, Chris? Am I crazy? I 377 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: think about this stuff. You're fighting on a battlefield. You're 378 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: not fighting on a green tennis court at Wimbledon. You're 379 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: in the fields somewhere with cracks, crevices, holes, dead bodies 380 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: you're riding over. How do you even stay in the chariot? 381 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: Everything about that? How do you make sure the chariots 382 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: wheels don't just fall right off after too much of 383 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: a pounding. I'm not just making this up. Supposedly they 384 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: used to be really worried about it. Some of these 385 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: people who use chariots would go to the battlefield days 386 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: ahead of time and clear the battlefields out, trying to 387 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: make sure. Let's make sure all our chariots don't break 388 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: down like a Hyundai in the middle of the thing. Sorry, Honda, 389 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: I didn't mean to be insulting. I actually heard they're 390 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: really nice. Now are they nice now? Chris? Who knows? 391 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: Who cares? I'm not buying one. Which brings me to elephants. 392 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: This is the part I would like to see a 393 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: lot of ancient politics and ancient warfare. This may be 394 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: at the top of my list. An elephant would have 395 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: been trained. These war elephants they used. The Seleucids had them, 396 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: the Romans did not. There was a couple instances later 397 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: on of Romans using them. We're not going into that. 398 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: The Seleucids at this battle, the Battle of Magnesia, had elephants. 399 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: They put them at this battle in between the infantry formations. 400 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: The elephants are huge. Obviously they are armored. They have 401 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: three or four men sitting on top of them with 402 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: bows and arrows. And this part fascinates me. They had 403 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: a spike built in on top of the elephant's head, 404 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: and the main driver, the guy piloting the elephant, had 405 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: a huge hammer. At any moment, he could hammer that 406 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: spike and it would drive down into the elephant's brain 407 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: and kill it instantly. Why did they have this thing? 408 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: Because elephants are huge, horrifying, intelligent and skittish, unpredictable. We 409 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: all want to see a war elephants. I want to 410 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: see war elephants how they're used. But they were only 411 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: used to limited success because once the other side figures 412 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: out how to hurt them and or terrify them, they 413 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: turn around and stomp through your guys as they lose 414 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: their mind, and you have to murder the elephants to 415 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: keep them from stomping your guys to death. What does 416 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: that look like if you're sitting there and you're thrilled, 417 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: Oh sweet, we got the war elephants. These romans are 418 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: in trouble now, and they take off in front of you, 419 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: and at one point you see them turn wild eyed, 420 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: making that loud elephant noise and compounding towards you with 421 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: dust and everything else around. Tell me what's going through 422 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: your mind at that moment when the elephant bears down. 423 00:32:43,200 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: Hang on Jesse Kelly Show on air and online at 424 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:06,719 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show dot com. We know for a fact, 425 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: not a guest, we know for a fact, the stock 426 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: market at some point in time is going to have 427 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: what they call a correction, which is a lovely way 428 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: to put you getting financially destroyed. That's what it is. 429 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: Stock Markets do not only grow, grow, grow, grow, grow, 430 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: as we've seen time and time again. So would you 431 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: please explain to me why you have all your money 432 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: that you've worked hard for in an IRA or four 433 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: oh one k that's stocks in bonds. You know there's 434 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: a precious metals IRA out there, right. You can get 435 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: a free twenty page kit on legally moving your money 436 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: to a precious metals IRA if you go to Birchgold 437 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: dot com slash Jesse. Get some precious metals in your portfolio, 438 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: if not, make them your whole portfolio. Birchgold dot com 439 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: slash Jesse. B I rc Hgold dot com slash Jesse. 440 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: I want to see a war elephant in action against 441 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 1: somebody with some spears. What, Chris, you don't want to 442 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: see it. I do want to see it. I know 443 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: it's sick. I want to see it. I want to 444 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: hear it again. The elephants lost their effectiveness though, because 445 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: people figured out to slash at the hamstrings to spread 446 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: out their formations. And the Romans this might be my 447 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: favorite thing ever. Before we wrap this thing up here, 448 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 1: The Romans figured out you can take pigs, cover them 449 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: in flammable grease, point them towards the elephants, and light 450 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: them on fire. The pig then runs at a full 451 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: sprint towards the elephant. You can imagine the sound a 452 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: pig would be making as it's on fire. Probably smelled amazing. 453 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: What Chris, what imagine the sound a pig is making 454 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: as it charges at the elephant on fire? The elephant 455 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: now has this squealing ball of flame running at its feet, 456 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: and the elephants would turn and a panic and take off. 457 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing? But let's wrap this up. Battle of 458 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 1: Magnesia has seventy eighty thousand to Lucids on one side 459 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: had infantry, chariots, elephants to works, cavalry on the front. 460 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: On the flanks. Romans had their standard sweet legionnaires and 461 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: cavalry on the flanks. The Seleucids charge first with their cavalry, 462 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: actually blow through a lot of the Roman cavalry on 463 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: their flank when they get to them. And once they 464 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: get through, they make one of the biggest mistakes in 465 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: the history of warfare. Instead of turning around and running 466 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: their cavalry into the back of the Romans, they keep going. 467 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: Why did they keep going while they were heading towards 468 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: the Roman camp? Your camp, remember as your supply line. 469 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,280 Speaker 1: It's everything you care about, it's your home, it's everything else. 470 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: But the Seleucids made a horrendous mistake because remember the Romans. 471 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: The Romans didn't have camps. The Romans had many forts. 472 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: This thing was not sitting back there with one or 473 00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: two camp servants. This thing was back there with a 474 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: bunch of Roman troops. They left in reserve and walls 475 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: and artillery pieces, at least ancient version of artillery pieces. 476 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: The Seleucids get beaten back, the Romans finished them off 477 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: on the battlefield, and the Seleucid Empire, for all intents 478 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 1: and purposes, is over. This wasn't really about the Battle 479 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 1: of Magnesia, or elephants or dogs or burning pigs. This 480 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: is about the fact that I don't take the breaking 481 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: up of a nation lightly. I don't. Yeah, we're gonna 482 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: have some fun with it, we're gonna be tongue in 483 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: cheek about it. But I am dead dead nuts serious 484 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: that we should do this if humanly possible, because I 485 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: see this nation fracturing irreparably. And let me clarify. A 486 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 1: nation is only a nation for the same reason a 487 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: tribe is only a tribe. A group of people decide, 488 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they can exist around each other because 489 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: they have a certain set of common values that overlap. 490 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you're all the same, doesn't mean you 491 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: look all the same, doesn't mean you all worship the same. 492 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: Does it mean you all do the same things. But 493 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: you have you have to have in order to have 494 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 1: a nation, you have to have a certain set of 495 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: values that overlap. You have to have common values, and 496 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: if you don't, it's not the end of the world. 497 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 1: But it also means you shouldn't be a nation anymore, 498 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 1: because a nation becomes a nation for sanctuary, for safety. Well, 499 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 1: if we're living together and we have absolutely nothing in 500 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,240 Speaker 1: common and we hate each other, then we're no longer 501 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: living together. We are caged together in a gladiator match. 502 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: What common values do we have now? With these leftists? 503 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about the anarchists or Black 504 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: Lives Matter people on the streets. We have United States 505 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: Senator Tammy Duckworth on television talking about the removing statues 506 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: of George fricking Washington. So let me ask again, what 507 00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 1: are our common values? I'm all ears. Tell me Jesse 508 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: at Jesse Kelly Show dot com. Jesse at Jesse Kelly 509 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: show dot com. I want to know, Hang. These Raycon 510 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: earbuds are slick, really really slick, and I love how 511 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: they sound. Obviously, people talk about the bass all the time, 512 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 1: and I'm big on that, but I listened to mainly 513 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: podcasts and the clarity of the voices I get in 514 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,479 Speaker 1: my ear are fantastic, And this is a big, big 515 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: part of it for me. Because I spend so much 516 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 1: time with headphones in when I'm on the radio, and 517 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: then I have an earpiece when I'm on TV. My 518 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: ears need a break. These Raycon earbuds are easy on 519 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: the ears. They don't feel like they're tearing out my 520 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: ears eardrums the entire time. I hardly know they're there, 521 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: and you hardly know they're there because they're not these gigantic, wired, 522 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: gaudy looking things. Cannot speak hindy enough about them. I 523 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: have to e twenty five earbuds. Highly recommend them half 524 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: the prices of the other ones out there. Gonna buy 525 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: Raycon dot com slash jesse that's by Raycon dot com 526 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: slash Jesse that gets you fifteen percent off your order. 527 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: If we don't share anything, and we hate each other, 528 00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: why are we still doing this for what? Nostalgia? Because 529 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: we feel like we have to. Why do we have to? 530 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: People get so defensive of well, we can't, we can't 531 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: do that. Why I want to know why? Again? Let 532 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: me go back to this. Nations breaking up is not new. 533 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:34,720 Speaker 1: It's inevitable. It is the history of the world. Nations rise, 534 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: nations fall, nations break up, Nations disappear so Why are 535 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 1: we doing this? Why don't we sit down like adults 536 00:42:51,360 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: and just agree, agree on what well? I'll explain the 537 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show. You know your house smells, don't get mad, 538 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: don't get mad in my house smells too. I'm not 539 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: I'm not indicting you. I'm sure you keep a clean home, 540 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 1: but just time means you're going to acquire smells. Whether 541 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: those are cooking smells that get in your paint, your carpet, 542 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 1: maybe their animal smells. Maybe you're a smoker, or someone 543 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: else was just living creates smells. I didn't realize that 544 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: my home had a smell to it until I got 545 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 1: my first Eden Pure Thunderstorm, the greatest air purifier I've 546 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 1: ever owned in my life. This thing. I had it 547 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: plugged in for two hours. I came back in the 548 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: room and my air smelled so clean. I now owned 549 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 1: three of them. I'm not making that up. This thing 550 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: has absolutely changed me on top of what it's done 551 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: from my allergies. Go get one, get two, do you 552 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 1: like me? And get three. Go to Eden Pure deals 553 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: dot com. Make sure you use the promo code Jesse 554 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 1: that gets you ten bucks off and free shipping. Eden 555 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: Pure Deals dot com promo code Jesse