1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: This is the Bloomberg daybac AT podcast. Good morning, It's Wednesday, 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: the eleventh of March. I'm Caroline Hepget in London and 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: I'm Stephen Caroline Brussels. Coming up today, The International Energy 5 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: Agency is said to propose the largest ever release of 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: oil reserves as the Iran War halts tanker flows, President 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: Trump threatens to sink Iranian ships laying mines in the 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: Strait of Hormuz, as conflicting White House statement stoke market volatility. 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: Plus hedged no more. Top funds lose one and a 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 3: half billion dollars in a single week as events in 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 3: the Middle East up end portfolios. 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: Let's start with a round up of our top stories. 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: The International Energy Agency is said to be proposing the 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: largest release of oil reserves and its history, with the 15 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: aim of bringing down crude prices that have soared during 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 3: the Iran War. The Wall Street Journal reports of the 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: release would exceed the one hundred and eighty two million 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: barrels used following Russia's full scale invasion of Ukraine in 19 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. The near total closure of the Strait 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: of Hormuz has led to production cuts from golf producers 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 3: as tankers remain unable to cross the narrow strait and 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 3: storage is filling up. And Donaharri, founder of Vanda, insides 23 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: that says it will be hard for the IA to 24 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: fill the output gap. 25 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: We are now past ten days of the war. The 26 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: market has already lost about two hundred million barrels, give 27 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: or take. 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 4: If the IA. 29 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: Countries released that much of oil, and a separate question 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 1: over what period of time they'll be able to release that, 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: that would simply make up what the market has already lost. 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: Then every single day after that that the war continues 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: and the strait remains closed. What do we do? 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: Van donah Harry was speaking as countries are expected to 35 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: decide on the proposal today. According to the report, the 36 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: thirty two nations that belong to the IA collectively held 37 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: at least one point two billion barrels of oil in 38 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: emergency stocks. 39 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: US news outlet's say that Iran has begun laying mines 40 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: in the Strait of Hormuz. CNN reports that Iran has 41 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: laid a few dozen minds in the strait in recent days. Meanwhile, 42 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: CBS says that intelligence assessments indicate that Iran is taking 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: steps to deploy minds. Shortly after those stories were published, 44 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 2: President Trump took to social media to warn Iran against 45 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: laying mines in the waterway, threatening to blow up any 46 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: ship attempting to do so. In twenty nineteen, the US 47 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: Defense Intelligence Agency estimated that Iran had more than five 48 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: thousand naval minds that could be deployed quickly using small, 49 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: high speed boats. The US has been targeting Iranian mind 50 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: laying ships as part of the campaign against Iran's navy. 51 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: Investors are trying to gauge the US administration's intentions towards 52 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 3: Iran as its public messaging shifts rapidly. President Trump has 53 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 3: delivered mixed signals on the war, saying it could end soon, 54 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: while also warning that military activity may increase the US 55 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: energy Second Chris Wright posted and then deleted a social 56 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: media message stating that the US Navy had escorted an 57 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 3: oil tanker through the Strait of Hormuz. That prompted the 58 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 3: White s Press Secretary Carline Levett to respond, I was 59 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: made aware of this post. 60 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 4: I haven't had a chance to talk to the Energy 61 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 4: Secretary about it directly. However, I know the post was 62 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 4: taken down pretty quickly, and I can confirm that the 63 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 4: US Navy has not escorted a tanker or a vessel. 64 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: Well. 65 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 3: Prices had fallen nearly twenty percent following the initial report 66 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 3: before reversing course after Levitt's denial to find. Secretary Pete 67 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: Hegseth said military operations against Iran or escalating that there 68 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: is little chance of diplomatic talks. 69 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 4: As President Trump declared, we're crushing the enemy in an overwhelming. 70 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 5: Display of technical skill and military force. 71 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 6: We will not relent until the enemy is totally and 72 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 6: decisively defeated. 73 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: Whoever hessets from Marks appeared to contrast with those of 74 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: Special End Voice Steve Whitcoff, who told CNBC that the 75 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: US is in theory open to negotiations. 76 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 5: The President has said that he's open to communication. The 77 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 5: question is do they It's the same question today that 78 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 5: we had when we were negotiating with them. Do they 79 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 5: apps do they actually want to make have a diplomatic 80 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 5: solution here? 81 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 3: A lot of those white ized officials were speaking yesterday. 82 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 2: The European Central Bank president says that she will ensure 83 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: that the war in Iran doesn't spark the same inflation 84 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: pain for the Eurozone as Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Christine 85 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: Leguard says that she will do all that is necessary 86 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 2: to avoid a repeat of the spiking prices in twenty 87 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: twenty two, she was speaking to France to television on. 88 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 7: Economic We are in an economic situation that's different. We 89 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 7: are in a better situation and we have a greater 90 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 7: capacity to absorb shocksitude. 91 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: Christine la Guard, speaking via a translator, whip sawing oil 92 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: and gas prices have triggered concerns that INFLA, which had 93 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 2: settled at the ECB's two percent target, could flare up again. 94 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: It comes as the IMF's former chief economist key to 95 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 2: go beIN asf Toll Bloomberg, governments don't have the fiscal 96 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: capacity to respond to a prolonged economic downturn. Traders of 97 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: ramp top bets on ECB interest rate hikes since the 98 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: war began twelve days ago. 99 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 3: The cost of Britain meeting its net zero goal is 100 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 3: smaller than a single fossil fuel price shock. According to 101 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 3: the UK's official climate advisor, the Climate Change Committee, forecast 102 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: that roughly four billion pounds in additional spending is needed 103 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: every year to meet net zero by twenty fifty, whereas 104 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty two oil price bike costs the UK 105 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: economy one hundred and eighty three billion pounds over four years. 106 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 3: Britain's populist Writing Reform UK Party has campaigned against green policies, 107 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: with their leader in Nigel Farag, saying the UK should 108 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: drill for more oil in the North Sea. We will 109 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: end this net. 110 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 8: Zero obsession which the tours started. We will end all subsidy. 111 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 8: We will use your energy bills. We will get industry 112 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,119 Speaker 8: back in this country. We will produce our own oil, 113 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 8: we will produce our own gas. We'll make ourselves self 114 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 8: sufficient on energy, not rely on on the rest of 115 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 8: the world. 116 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 3: But Paras has been criticized for his backing of the 117 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: US and Israeli war in Iran. Yesterday, he reversed his 118 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: position on the UK's involvement, saying Britain should not get 119 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: involved in the conflict. UK gas prices have risen by 120 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: more than fifty percent since the conflict began, reigniting concern 121 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: over Britain's approach to energy security, which is heavily reliant 122 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: on imported LNG. 123 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: Now In other news, Chinese authorities have moved to restrict 124 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: the use of openclaw AI applications on the state's office computers. 125 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 2: The open source AI agent has been particularly popular in 126 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 2: the country, with companies from Tencent to JD dot Com 127 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 2: using it. However, the AGENTICAI platform requires unusually broad access 128 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: to private data, and it can communicate externally. Sources of 129 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: ow telling Bloomberg that employees, including those at China's state 130 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: run banks and some government agencies have been banned from 131 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: installing open claw for security reasons. 132 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: Winston Churchill will be removed from British banknotes as part 133 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: of a revamp by the Bank of England. Boomberg's ewhen 134 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: parts has the story. 135 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 9: War time Prime Minister Winston Churchill is out, Badgers and 136 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 9: hedgehogs are in following a public consultation. The next generation 137 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 9: of Bank of England banknotes that does feature the UK's 138 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 9: native wildlife. Picking historical figures to feature on the notes 139 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 9: has not been with our controversy in the past, and 140 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 9: perhaps unsurprisingly, opposition parties are making hay, with one Tory 141 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 9: MP calling the move wokery. But with cash now making 142 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 9: up only an estimated nine percent of transactions in the UK, 143 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 9: banknotes are becoming as endangered as some species of native 144 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 9: wildlife in London. I'm utine parts, Bloomberg radio. 145 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: Okay, those are a few of our top soys are 146 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: ending yes on pound notes. Right. Let's think about the market. 147 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: So oil retreating now below ninety dollars a barrel helping 148 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: to lift the market mood. So we saw Brent crewd 149 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: plunging by eleven percent yesterday. We trade exactly eighty eight 150 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: dollars this morning, but Brent, remember is forty five percent 151 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: high than it was roughly since the start of this year. 152 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: In terms of markets, Masciah Pacific indexes up by one 153 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: point two percent. Stop futures for the US are in 154 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: the green. For US sopecial futures down by four tenths 155 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 2: of one percent. And interesting FT report has some eyes 156 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: in the market. JP Morgan is marking down loan portfolios 157 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: for private credit. According to that FT report, Treasury is rising. 158 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: We've got US inflation report today and the dollar is 159 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 2: down this morning two tenths of one percent. Those are 160 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 2: the markets. 161 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 3: In a moment, We'll bring you the latest on the 162 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 3: Iron war. Plus how hedge funds have last hundreds of 163 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: millions of dollars over the world market moves of the 164 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: past twelve days. But another story that we've been reading 165 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: this morning on the disruption to global travel from a 166 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: series of events this year, including the war in the 167 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 3: Middle East. Member Computing columnist Andrea Felsted has been writing 168 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: about how destinations like Dubai, which attract generally very high 169 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 3: end tourists, are bracing for a sharp downturn. Of course, 170 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 3: the images of missiles being intercepted over the city or 171 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: stranded holidaymakers telling their stories maybe putting a lot of 172 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 3: travelers off. And according to data and Forward Keys, Toubai 173 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 3: was the fifth most visited travel destination last year. Now, 174 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 3: Andrea says this is part of something that is actually 175 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 3: a kind of a greater upending of classic travel destinations. 176 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: There's been unrest in Mexico as well, after the killing 177 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 3: of the cartel leader on Men Show last month. Of course, Cuba, 178 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 3: which is a very popular destination for Canadian tourists in particular, 179 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: being crippled by the US oil blockade as well. Now, 180 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 3: where will people go instead is part of the question 181 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: the travel industry is trying to answer. Rhinaier says it's 182 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: seen a surgeon bookings to European destinations, but it sort 183 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 3: of depends on essentially how much money you have to 184 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 3: be able to spend. 185 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, maybe that will put paid to the protests 186 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: that we've seen in recent summers in Europe, you know, 187 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: anti tourism protests or as you say, will people be 188 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: rerouting somewhere else? And it's hard to think about holiday 189 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: making in the midst of a war, but obviously it's 190 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: very important in terms of industries for a lot of 191 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: a lot of countries and including for Dubai. 192 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 3: I'll put a link to Andrea's peace in our podcast 193 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 3: show notes. Let's bring you up to date with events 194 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 3: in the Middle East. Oil prices have swung wildly over 195 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 3: the range of comments from US officials now these reports 196 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 3: and the International Energy Agency about a proposal for the 197 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 3: largest ever release of oil reserves. We have our Middle 198 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: East managing Ezra Paul Wallace with us now for more 199 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: polp What do we know first of all about this 200 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 3: potential plan for oil stockpiles and would it help to 201 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 3: bridge the gap from supply that's been disrupted in the Gulf. 202 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 6: Well, this plan is in its early stages, but the 203 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 6: International Energy Agency, which is essentially a group of the 204 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 6: world's biggest energy consumers, so essentially the world's richest countries 205 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 6: is moving quickly because of because of all the chaos 206 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 6: cinema in energy markets over the last week. They're talking, 207 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 6: according to a Wall Street General report, of releasing something 208 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 6: in excess of one hundred and eighty two million barrels of. 209 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: Oil. 210 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 6: Now that figure was what was released in two tranches 211 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 6: in twenty twenty two after Russia invaded Ukraine. So by 212 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 6: historical standards, yes, that is a big amount to release 213 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 6: in terms of emergency oil reserves. But you know, just 214 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 6: to put it into perspective, I said, one hundred and 215 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 6: eighty two million barrels. Global consumption of oil is more 216 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 6: than one hundred million barrels a day. It's about one 217 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 6: hundred and five million barrels a day. So when you 218 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 6: put it like that, it's it's not that much. So 219 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 6: there was a report by Goldman today saying it would 220 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 6: make a slight difference to oil prices, but not a 221 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 6: heck of a lot. I think at most it would 222 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 6: it would help steady markets, but it's certainly wouldn't do 223 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 6: much to really bring down prices to where they were 224 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 6: before the Iran US tension started soaring earlier this year. 225 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there are real concerns then about the Strait 226 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 2: of Hormuz. The tanker traffic has slowed to a really 227 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: just barely a trickle, and there are real fears about 228 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: Iran laying minds in the waterway, aren't there? 229 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, there are. Hormones does not look like it's 230 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 6: opening any time soon, not in the next few days anyway. 231 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 6: That's from all the signals we're getting from Iran and 232 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 6: from the US and from Gulf states about the state 233 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 6: of the war. Minds would certainly be a big problem 234 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 6: and their fears about that. I think it's also important 235 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 6: to note though, that you know, Iran doesn't necessarily have 236 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 6: to lay minds or any kind of physical barrier in 237 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 6: the Strait of Hormuz to keep this effective closure going. 238 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 6: I mean, what it's done so far is threatened ships 239 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 6: and hit a few, and in the last hour there 240 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 6: was a report by an organization linked to the UK 241 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 6: Navy saying that a container ship has been hit Yark Moos. 242 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 6: So essentially that's all that Iran needs to do. It's 243 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 6: a fairly cheap strategy if it wants to keep this 244 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 6: closure going and to keep roiling energy markets. It doesn't 245 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 6: need to lay mind, that would be an escalation. But 246 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 6: even if it just keeps threatening ships or ships think 247 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 6: there's a threat of attacks by Iran, that will probably 248 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 6: be enough to stop the vast majority from sailing through 249 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 6: the Strait Paul. 250 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: That's the situation in the straight of WARMUS. What about 251 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: across the region this morning? What are we seeing in 252 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: terms of strikes on this twelfth day of the war. 253 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 6: So essentially there's not much let up. Iran is still 254 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 6: attacking countries across the region. In Dubai where I am, 255 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 6: there was an alert across the city round about midnight 256 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 6: and then we got an all clear signal about an 257 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 6: hour later. As I know, that attack, whatever it was with, 258 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 6: whether it was missiles or drones or both, didn't sort 259 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 6: of cause any damage. And most of these attacks are 260 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 6: being intercepted, but Iran keeps going. There were more reports 261 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 6: of targeting on Kuwait in the last twelve hours, and 262 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 6: in terms of US and Israeli attacks on Iran, they 263 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 6: keep going. An important to note that the Pentagon said 264 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 6: that yesterday was probably going to be the most intense 265 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 6: bombing yet of Iran and that may continue as the 266 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 6: US in Israel try to further degrade Iran's military capabilities. 267 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: Okay, Paul, thank you so much for being with us. 268 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: That is our Middle East Managing editor, Paul Wallace, stay 269 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: with us. More from Bloomberg Daybakeube coming up after this. 270 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 3: Hedge funds suffered hundreds of millions of dollars and losses 271 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 3: last week after the war against Iran triggered volatile market moves. 272 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 3: Our chief hedge fund correspondent Nishand Kuma joins us now 273 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: for more in Nishan Morning. Who lost money then and 274 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 3: how big were the losses. 275 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 10: The losses were across some of the largest names in 276 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 10: the hedge fund industry. It's still too early, but the 277 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 10: reports that we have so far include losses at hedge 278 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 10: One Giant, Millennium Management, Ballyasni gave up all its gains 279 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 10: for the year, Exodus Point Capital Management they gave up 280 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 10: all gains for the year. So yeah, it's very widespread 281 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 10: and it has hit some of the largest names who 282 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 10: manage tens of billions of dollars between them. And what 283 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 10: is important here is that all these hedge ones are 284 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 10: known for their steady returns. They should not be losing 285 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 10: this kind of money in such a short period of time. 286 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 10: Although I mean the market moves were really wild. It 287 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 10: was a perfect storm for hedge one, so there is 288 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 10: an explanation, but the losses were very deep. 289 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean set classes produced then these big shocks 290 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: or the biggest of the shocks. 291 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 10: So mostly it seems to be around commodities trading and 292 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 10: macro bets as well. One of the real pain points 293 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 10: was you know, rates in UK, especially where market rapidly 294 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 10: reprised what the Bank of England might do and two 295 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 10: year guilt hills jumped about thirty five basis points in 296 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 10: a week, so it was one bad bet. It was 297 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 10: multiple market moving fast at the same time in the 298 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 10: wrong direction that led to you know, this sort of 299 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 10: a perfect storm for hedge fund industry last week. 300 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: Were there any winners among this volatility? 301 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 10: Again, it's too early generally hedgemund's post their returns to 302 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 10: send it to investors on third or fourth business day onward, 303 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 10: so we will know. I mean, I'm sure there are 304 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 10: there will be some winners, especially among the hedge funds 305 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 10: that trade volatility, so they love this kind of a situation. 306 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 10: Among the larger multi strategy hedge funds. We have so 307 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 10: far reported that Bobby Jantce hedge fund, which was a 308 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 10: startup in the space, they made ten basis point. I 309 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 10: mean it's tiny returns, but in the overall context of 310 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,959 Speaker 10: some of the biggest hedge funds losing that much money, 311 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 10: it's still quite respectable. So yeah, so far, very few 312 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 10: winners emerging. 313 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: Is there something that these companies can do now? 314 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 10: I mean, you know these so what the beauty of 315 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 10: multi strategy hedge funds is they are very well diversified. 316 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 10: They are run by dozens and dozens of traders doing 317 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 10: multiple trades across asset classes. So yeah, they were hit 318 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 10: and these guys are known for their amazing risk management. 319 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 10: They will bounce back eventually. 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