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Speaker 1: not that. We are at a mother. We are strong,

426
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: where independent, we are in control of our lives. And

427
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 1: it was it's a choice to portray and give a

428
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 1: voice to that because we cannot be seen as the

429
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: victims only. But with Evelyn Wong, she's not a victim. No.

430
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 1: She is trying to be the strong, the successful and

431
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: all that, but life has beaten her down in every

432
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 1: turn of the way. And that's a reality that surround us.

433
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 1: It's not that everybody gets to be successful even though

434
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: they give it they are hundred and two hundred percent right. Unfortunately,

435
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 1: that's the reality of life, but to be able to say, yes,

436
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: she is a failure as so many things that she does,

437
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: but every failure becomes it's an impact on our lives

438
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: and we have to learn to be to learn from

439
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: that and be stronger with that. And I think for

440
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: Evelyn Wong, if she was not open to be always

441
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: trying to be better or do something, she would not

442
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: be able to go into these multiverses and tap into

443
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: that and have an open mind. And I think that

444
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: was what that really attracted Yes, because we are all

445
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 1: flawed characters. We are all flawed human beings. And in

446
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: the beginning of my career playing the Strong, you know,

447
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: more and more dynamic characters were important because it empowers

448
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: you to believe that you can do this. And now

449
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 1: it comes to a stage where it's like, I want

450
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: to give the people who are not seen right the

451
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: chance to have a voice and say they can have

452
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: a different life too. And the Daniels have given us

453
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: a perfect opportunity to say, well, guess what in a

454
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,479
Speaker 1: science fiction world, we can you know, because you're going

455
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: to be able to go into all these kind wolves

456
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: and see what could have happened, But what can you choose?

457
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,719
Speaker 1: That's very important. That is I think, and I'm actually

458
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: emotional even thinking about this, but what moved me so

459
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: much about the film was the message of choosing each

460
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: other and you know, even in seeing the vast possibility

461
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: in choosing the love in your life and in noticing

462
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: the things in your life that have actually given you

463
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 1: the strength that you didn't know. Because even though Evelyn

464
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: acquires skills and she's able to tap into these different universes,

465
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: it is her the whole time, and she is the

466
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: soul that we're with, and she is the person at

467
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: the end of the film who makes the decision that

468
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: she makes. And I cannot remember being more moved than

469
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: towards the end of the film when there is a

470
00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: specific montage with Keys character and you are and I

471
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: just want to say, Michelle, like, there is so much

472
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: power in the way that you receive that you are

473
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: outstanding in this movie. I mean, it is an outstanding

474
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: I will say it Oscar worthy performance. I know it's whatever,

475
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 1: but this is the kind of thing where I just

476
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: don't think there is another person in the world that

477
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: could do this. And when I tell you how moved

478
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: I was, it had so much to do with keys

479
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: performance but also the way you receive that, and you

480
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: can see the character realizing so much about her life,

481
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: her reality, and what she wants in that moment. So

482
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: just that message I think is so important, you know,

483
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: in showing the beauty and the love in a life

484
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: that's big, but also a life that feels quote unquote small.

485
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: And so I just was that something that jumped out

486
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: to you in the script and maybe made you say

487
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: like absolutely, this is it. Oh my god, now you're

488
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: making me emotional some moved by the movie. No, I

489
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: think what it is it's like because when you read it,

490
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: it resonates, you know, like you say, with a husband

491
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: and wife relationship, any relationship is continuous work, and sometimes

492
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: we get sideswept, bocked down by the things, problems and

493
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: all those kinds of things, and we start looking at

494
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: the other person like why couldn't you be better at this?

495
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: But then we forget why did you fall in love

496
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: with this person to change him? Right? You love him

497
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: because he's a little darky. He knows how to find

498
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: like joy and beauty in the most horrible places, and

499
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: he's trying to instill happiness, and that was why you

500
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: loved him. In the first place, and you were ready

501
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: to you abandon your family, your parents, to go in

502
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: search of a new life because you love this man.

503
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes we get lost along the way,

504
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: and I think what happened was like it didn't hit

505
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: her until when she saw the divorce papers. They were like,

506
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: what the f are you talking? It real? And then

507
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: it was yeah, right, But that was his point. It

508
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: was like, I don't really want a divorce, but I

509
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: think this will force you to stop because it happened

510
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 1: to somebody else. It stopped them to think. It's like,

511
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: do you really value this relationship? And if you have

512
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: lost complete respect and for the man or the woman

513
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: and the relationship, then yes, maybe it's time to step away.

514
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: Because you don't want to hate each other because it's

515
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: a very fine line. But if there is real love,

516
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: then you have to fight for it. You have to

517
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,719
Speaker 1: fight for each other and you have to continue to

518
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: do that. I think where the Daniels were very very

519
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: clever when they wrote this is the emotional thread between

520
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: each character with even like the simple you know when

521
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: Jobu Chaki, then Stephanie comes out with all these like

522
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: amazing costumes and things incredible, she looks a comfortable but

523
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: I looked into her eyes and I see the longing

524
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 1: of I'm looking for my mother. Yes not you know,

525
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: even though my mouth says nothing matters, your eyes don't

526
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: say that. And that's what I see from from that

527
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: what bonds us together, because that's what Evelyn is seeing. Right.

528
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: It's like you know how sometimes children they say the

529
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: worst things. They're like I wish you're dead or your

530
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Always say it too because I wish

531
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: they never had you, Like what, don't be ridiculous, Okay,

532
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: but you say things you think to hurt each other

533
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: because you want them to feel, to hurt you are feeling, yeah,

534
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: and then you just take like silly things at each other.

535
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: But that's where you know when you are working with

536
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: someone like Key and Stephanie, who we look at each

537
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: other and we see love and we know this is

538
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: where we have to go because if you don't believe

539
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: that you love me, nobody else going to. You know,

540
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: your eyes are as an actor, the eyes are the

541
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: windows to someone's soul. Yes, and I believe in Evelyn

542
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 1: Wall as Stephanie believed in Joy and to packy. So

543
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: you know when we walk into that even though she's

544
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: like clinging those adult toys around. Yes, what the hell?

545
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: And that's where the geniuses of the Daniels are. They

546
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: put you in the most unapologetic raunchiness, silliness or whatever,

547
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: because you are thrown off balance, your head is getting

548
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: like messed up like Evelyn, watch right, and then they

549
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: pull the rock from under you and they watch you

550
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: fall going a genius evil genius. But this is something,

551
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: This is like the opposite end of what you've always

552
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,719
Speaker 1: said that you know martial arts scenes are, which is

553
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: there's always drama and emotional sticks to any fight scene

554
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: you've done. And even with even between these characters, even

555
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: though there are all these insane visuals going on, there's

556
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: still that dramatic core, that thread between these two characters

557
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,719
Speaker 1: that like makes you you can't take your eyes off

558
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: it because you understand what's going on on some different emotional,

559
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: different levels, the emotional curve for these two women they're

560
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: fighting me. You know, if it's like with Jobu Chupaki,

561
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: she she thinks she's trying to kill this woman that's

562
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: her mother, right, but she's she's testing her to the limits.

563
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: Is how much do you actually want me? Yes? Right.

564
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: It's like our children test us all the time, from

565
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: the minute they know how to crawl. They test you

566
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: to see, right, that's what we do and that we

567
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: do that with our friends. We do that with our

568
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: the people that we love. Right. You don't do that

569
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: to people that you don't know, because it's the ways

570
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: of the time. Right. But you you test your limits,

571
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: you test each other's limits constantly. But does that mean

572
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: that you don't you love that person? That's why you

573
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: are testing the boundaries. That's why you know how much

574
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: more than I can I achieve from this? And even

575
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: with the fight sequences with like the Late lay Brothers,

576
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: you know, with the mud clouds and all this kind

577
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: of thing, it's all about survival. It's all about that

578
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: and what I loved right at the end, you know,

579
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: when I was doing it, it it was like, huh, I

580
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: opened my arms and I fight love. At first, I

581
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: was really like, what the hell are you two boys

582
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: trying to do? It's like, how do you fight for love?

583
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: That's a very interesting thing. How do you say I'm

584
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: going to now not fight you with the physical like

585
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, you are coming at me with knives at bombs,

586
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: you know, the whole staircase. Other alphas is like they

587
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: are they are ready to kill me and ready to

588
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: kill Evelyn wrong, and she has the google eyes and

589
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: she suddenly realized all the googly eyes it's all about

590
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: love and joy and this. But how do you present

591
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: to them. It's like, I'm not gonna fight you with

592
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: my fist. I'm going to embrace you and fight you

593
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: with love. So we were standing there going like, how

594
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: do you do that? How do you present that? Well,

595
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: I guess I would just call right, Loma, this is

596
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: something you know. We are in the industry, so we

597
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: know this, but these films are shot out of sequence

598
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: and so and so. So that must be a real

599
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: mind f for you to sort of like, you know,

600
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: have the script and you're reading the script and then

601
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: you get a shoot schedule. And that is something that

602
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: is also really impressive about your performance. Is it all

603
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: feels It's extremely specific, emotionally and continuous, which has to

604
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: be incredibly difficult because you could be shooting one scene

605
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: that leads into another at the end of the shoot

606
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: from the beginning of the shoot. So how did what

607
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: was your process for keeping that line that I am

608
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: going to post on my Instagram very soon my script.

609
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: Oh how I normally work a script. It's like I

610
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: tag you know, when you get your script and I

611
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: tag them which are the scenes I'm appearing in. If

612
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: it was an action sequence, they get a red tag,

613
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: and if it was a very heavy dramatic one, it

614
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 1: gets like a blue one. So you know, you work

615
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: it out. And then because you have to see as

616
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: the character, you see the entirety of the script, right,

617
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: And that was how you the emotional arc of where

618
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: you're going or whatever it is. I think one movie

619
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: that I had was as challenging but not quite as

620
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: this was The Lady, where it spanned like twenty years

621
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 1: of her life, right, And like you say, we don't

622
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: do it in order, You never do. I mean for

623
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: so many reasons. So you have to know that if

624
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: you go into the eighties or then the twenty two thousands,

625
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: what is the mindset? Where are you going from your hair,

626
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 1: a wardrobe or whatever that helps you recreate this this moment.

627
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: But with everything everywhere all at once, it is everything

628
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: everywhere all at once, you're self. Then you're like, oh

629
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: what okay, I'm like back to this universe and then

630
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: I'm jumping into the jail whatever you know. You But

631
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: when you see how I have tagged, I am literally

632
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: every scene of them. Yes, oh yeah. Emotional art goes work, work, work,

633
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: he goes sideways, up and down and every It really

634
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: is insane. And the amazing thing is like, even though

635
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: she goes into the other multiverse, Evelyn is still Evelyn Warm, right.

636
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: She she sees what this multiverse is about. She doesn't

637
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: live that multiverse. It's not like, Hey, his character Wayman

638
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: when he is can travel, right, but in that universe

639
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: he is who he is, like the CEO. He doesn't

640
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: know about the other uni versus, so he is very

641
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: contained with who Wayman is in that universe. But with her,

642
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: it's like she sees, this is like why am I here?

643
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: And can you imagine when she went into the hot

644
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: Dog Dutiverse Nightmare atagonist Jamie Lee Curtis whose dear reader

645
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: whatever her name is, like yeah, and it's suddenly her

646
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: lover and coming at her with these like hot dog

647
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: you guys and wanting to hug her and Kissa like

648
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: don't touch me, you know, And that was the amazing

649
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: thing about the whole thing. It's like, first you have

650
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: to know your spirit. I am like Stephanie. She is

651
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: brilliant with ad living and you know she is quick

652
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: to change and do stren right off the skin. She

653
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: always and I say, I don't do that to me. Okay,

654
00:36:53,320 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna make up. You have to

655
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: a certain guidelines that we're going to do this the point. Yes.

656
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: So then it's like when you get into all these things.

657
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: One thing I always say to my dinos, you are

658
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: my you are my anchors, right because we are going

659
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: to be jumping from here to there all these kind

660
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: of times. I'm going to look to you and say, okay,

661
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: and we passed out? We rock are we? I mean earlier?

662
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: It's like and because it's into cutting the whole time. Yeah,

663
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: the two geniuses know exactly where they're going with Lockin

664
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: our DP, and I think at the end of the

665
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: day with Paul our editor, Oh my god, they had

666
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: it down to the team. Like the action sequences. We

667
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: don't have much time to shoot it, right, we have

668
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: like a day and a half or two days maximum

669
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: for the entire sequence of you know, the thing and

670
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: the dad and the butt plugs and all these kind

671
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: of things. Yeah, they have to know what they need

672
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: and take that time. They can get attle bit more,

673
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: but they first have to shoot what they need. I

674
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: can't believe from like an art direction and set decoration

675
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: standpoint that this was shot in eight weeks. That is crazy.

676
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: That must have been like stepping into a completely different

677
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,479
Speaker 1: film every day. Yeah, exactly. I think what grounded us

678
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: was the IRS building. We were very fortunate. You know,

679
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: when you're you're an ND film, you have to be creative.

680
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: You have to know where you can save the money

681
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: and you know, put it where you need to spend it.

682
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: And so with this abandoned IRS building, it grounded us

683
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: because we shot six weeks there. Yeah, this place you

684
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: could build little sets and things like that in there,

685
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: So we had a place to go to which we

686
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: were familiar with. I mean it was a huge place,

687
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: but it had us to sort of have it centralized

688
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: in some way. And I heard this great story from

689
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: Keihuai sharing having his dressing room next to Jamie Lee's,

690
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: but Jamie Lee never being there, and then he finally

691
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: was like, why are you ever in your dressing him?

692
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: And she was like, even with her career that spans decades,

693
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: she goes, I never learn anything in the dressing room.

694
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: I always learn everything when while I'm on set because

695
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 1: she's she is. She's not just an amazing talent. She's

696
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: not just an amazing actress. She's an amazing human being, thoughtful,

697
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: she's generous, she's always giving, and she's always learning. And

698
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: that's what we all need to do, is that you

699
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 1: wake up in the morning and not think I know everything?

700
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: So why don't you just go back to sleep? Then? Right?

701
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: The whole process of being alive is about learning and

702
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: experiencing and being there. And Jamie is going to it's

703
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: it wants to direct her own movie. She oh wow,

704
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: oh you will, so that she will. I mean she

705
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: has children's books, she has her own podcast, she has

706
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: so many things she he's ever ever inventing and creating

707
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: and things like that. So the next step for her

708
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: is to tell her own story or direct her own film. Right, absolutely, right,

709
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: He's right. What is she going to live sitting in

710
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: the you know she has she's and she's always out

711
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: there because she loves people, always watching, and it's sometimes

712
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: it's not fun. It's like the legendary Jamie is watching

713
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: your performance. Why does she just go back have a

714
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: cup of coffee. Ye, but our friend Tally Metals plays

715
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: Stephanie's girl. She's so wonderful in this broo, oh my god.

716
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: Really that relationship that she has very very little lines.

717
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: But it's not how much screen time you have, is

718
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: what you do impact you have that And she has

719
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: such a beautiful presence, that expressive eyes and face. She

720
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: doesn't have to say a word, but you can, you know.

721
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: So that's exactly it was so well cast in that

722
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: way she gave brilliant She was saying that you were

723
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: so so kind to her, You were so just curious

724
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: about her life. You made her feel so at ease,

725
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: and I just I read that she know, she posted

726
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: this to her Instagram, and I just got so emotional.

727
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised that you were gracious, but I was like,

728
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, like you're the star. You're setting the

729
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: tone and the environment for that kind of project that

730
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: is so ambitious, and um, I don't know, I just

731
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: I just I just think that's so special that you

732
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: and Jamie Lee and Kihwi Kwan just being like these

733
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: three people who have seen various signs to this business

734
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: all coming together kind of like handing it down to

735
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: another generation of people. No, um, not handing it down,

736
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: not handing it down. Sharing, sharing, I'm sorry sharing, you know, like,

737
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: but but teach not yet, not yet, not yet, I'm

738
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: so sorry. But teaching it in a way, you know,

739
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: like I you know, I don't think I am good

740
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 1: enough all we don't try to teach. We try to share.

741
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of years just like when

742
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: you see someone young and talented, you have to tell

743
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 1: them that they are talented, but making them understand. Don't

744
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: just take it for granted. I don't think I'm entitled.

745
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: There is no entitlement. We have been in the business

746
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: so long and you look at us and say, oh god,

747
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: you guys are the successful, legendary la la la la.

748
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: But every day we learn, we find things to learn.

749
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: We don't just sit back and go, well, you know, wow, No,

750
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: and I want them to already begin their incredible journey understanding.

751
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: It's like, as long as you have grounded, you will

752
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: fly to a lot of places, but you always feel

753
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: the earth. But can you imagine if you fly and

754
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: you don't know where to land, it's a long way down. Yeah, yeah,

755
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: And it's it's interesting to hear you acknowledge, um, you know,

756
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: people coming to you with this this verbiage of legend

757
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: like you know, and even the movie is aware of

758
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: that because when when you need to acquire the skill

759
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: of martial arts, you know, there's a funny montage that

760
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: cuts to essentially b roll of your life and it

761
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: doesn't inform that. But I wonder, like, what has it

762
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: been that has kept you grounded and kept that in

763
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 1: mind mindset? I mean, you've worked with some incredible legendary people.

764
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: I was looking at the list of directors you've worked with.

765
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: I mean, ang Lee, Rob Marshall, you know, upcoming, James Cameron.

766
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm gonna be asking about that, but

767
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: I I bet, I'm sure I can ask and you

768
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: will give me nothing you right now, But is it

769
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: that is that the people you've worked with that have

770
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: kept that instilled in you? What has what has anchored you?

771
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: My family and friends, my real friends? You know, It's

772
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: like I remember at the beginning, very start, and someone says,

773
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 1: you have to remember every time, don't let every flashbulb

774
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: like make you go. Always appreciate your opportunities that you

775
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: are given. Love what you do, because the day that

776
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: you don't love to do it. That means maybe it's

777
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: time to find move on to something else that you

778
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: find joy it. And yes, when you meet it's very interesting.

779
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: The more successful they really are, the more grounded they are. Yeah,

780
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: they are not taken them back by the bs of

781
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, glitz and whatever it is. Yes, we love that,

782
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: you know when we walk down the red carpet and

783
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: all this, because this is part and parcel of the allure,

784
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: the magic shut the movies or you know, TV, and

785
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: that gives our audience, our fans that ah, it's not great. Yes,

786
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: it's part of the whole thing. I mean you don't

787
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: really want to see your stars coming out in their

788
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 1: sweatpants and go like yeah whatever, you know, Yeah, yes,

789
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: and for a night or two to dress up and

790
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: have fun and you know, look fabulous. Why not. It's

791
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: it's nice, it's fun. But do I want to do

792
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: it every night? Now? Absolutely not. But I think what

793
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: it is is like your real friends, your family, and

794
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: a lot of times you make real friends in this

795
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: world as well. Right, they ground you because they remind

796
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: you who you are. You're not some character in a

797
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: movie or a TV series. You are who you are

798
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: and you should never ever forget that and be present,

799
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, appreciate what you have. That's that's the thing

800
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: that really grows me. Wow, thank you. I mean, just

801
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: going back to your script being tagged in all these ways,

802
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: I mean, how did you develop this sense of for

803
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: lack of a better word, I'm using this word again,

804
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: development like because I feel like it's always so finely

805
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: tuned that you always match the tone of the project.

806
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: But then this is just so you know, to go

807
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: from like wild West Hong Kong beginning of Hong Kong

808
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: cinema days where like no scripts, you just go in,

809
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: they tell you what to say on the day and

810
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: then you do it where you know you don't have

811
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: to think about it, like you know, on those sort

812
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: of macro conceptual terms. But now you i'd be hearing

813
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: you talk. I could hear you talk forever about the

814
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: way you prepared for this role, Like what what was

815
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: the process like for what was your journey like to

816
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 1: sort of get that instinct. It's learning along the way.

817
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: It's like from no squitts and learning to shoot from

818
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: the hip. You're like going whatever is thrown at me.

819
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: I mean, when we started, we have time for rehearsals.

820
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: We have no rehearsals. You get there, you get on

821
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: the set, you're all dressed in your costume, and they

822
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: will choreograph the action sequence. You learn it, you shoot it,

823
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: and you do something else. And like you say, sometimes

824
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: the lines are not given and you're going like one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

825
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: eight nine, ten. Oh yeah, many of many times. And

826
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: then finally when you see the final cut of New oh,

827
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: that is what's going on in that. Yeah, because they

828
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: edit and they filmed so fast, I mean for the

829
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: longest of time, even Jackie Chatt. We didn't have we

830
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: didn't use, we didn't dub our own movies right right,

831
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: somebody else did it for us. Yes, they were only

832
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: from when I did the song Sisters. That was the

833
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: first time I actually it was. I think it was

834
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: recorded right on the set Prior to that. Never because

835
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: you know, the we didn't have that kind of technology.

836
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: It wasn't done and it was much faster, easier after

837
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: they edit and get someone to do it. As you

838
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: know some Alltelians, while we're filming, their editors someone is

839
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: recording it. So wow, that process didn't really come into

840
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: play because there was no none of that time for it.

841
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but what you did learn was that you

842
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: watched and you listen and it was like how these

843
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: I was very fortunate to work with some of the

844
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 1: best actors in Hong Kong as well, so I watched

845
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: how they did it. It was like, I was fascinating,

846
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: How the hell do you cry on? Like, yeah, so

847
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: what do you do? Where is that coming from? Yeah? Right?

848
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: And I think that's the time when you're young and

849
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: you have to be like, I am a ding dong,

850
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: I have no I am I am learning. And if

851
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: I am so proud and say then you look nothing,

852
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: I would go in too, like Dani Yip and say

853
00:48:55,239 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: please teach me. Wow. And you know, then you work

854
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: with like Jung Win or you know all the amazing

855
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: Maggie Chung and yeah, oh my god, we were best friends.

856
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not afraid to ask my best friend.

857
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: I have no clue what I'm doing. Okay, maybe I

858
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: can do martial arts better than you, but when it

859
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: comes to the performances, you guys, and Maggie is like

860
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: an award winning actress is to have a conversation with

861
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: her and like, so tell me how do you do this?

862
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: But I must say it's also the directors, starting with

863
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: you know, with Tomorrow That Never Dies really was my

864
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: first international sure, and we have a bond girl in

865
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: the zoom everyone, okay, I have some respect to This

866
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: is our first bond girl ever on Lost Cultures. That's

867
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 1: it's a huge moment. And I remember Roger Spotters were

868
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: turning to me and he says, do you know I

869
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: can double you when it comes to the action. We

870
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: don't need the martial artists or whatever it is. You

871
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: are here because you demonstrated in your auditions that you

872
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 1: can carry the role of playing way Lynn. You don't

873
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 1: need us someone who can fight, because I can't double

874
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: you when it comes to the emotion. Yeah, emotional tide. Right.

875
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: So that's where you learned that how you have to

876
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: be invested in the character. And every director gives you

877
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: something and taught me tremendously about giving the character a

878
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: full background. Yeah, that's very clear when you we watched

879
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: the film again last night Crouching Tiger in preparation for this,

880
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,959
Speaker 1: and even when you first come in and you see

881
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: Chaw Yun Fat for the first time, there is so

882
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: much history on your film and it is very lived

883
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: in he's obviously an incredible director. Yeah, because I've had

884
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: the privilege of working with like Danny Boyle, like Rob

885
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: Marshall and all these kinds of people. They it's a

886
00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: learning process. But if you are ding dong in off

887
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: not to open your heart and mind to that, then

888
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: you've lost great opportunities to learn. And so you know,

889
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: you gather all these kinds of things and you learn

890
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: how important the script is, how important the director is,

891
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: how important your co stars are are, because you know

892
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: that making a movie or TV series, it's not a

893
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: one person thing. It's true collaboration on all the different

894
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: levels and all the people behind the scenes. Yes, and

895
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: you know the crew that whether it's the gaff or

896
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: the DP. You know the set designer, the costume designer,

897
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: your hair and makeup. They help. They're the accessories that

898
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: make this character. That how you build this character and

899
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 1: make a real They could really really, like you say,

900
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: have a life. And yeah, and I just because I

901
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: know you're not going to be able to tell us

902
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: anything about the plot of the Avatar sequels, which you are,

903
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: Here's this is the question. I will ask you, what

904
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: did you learn working with James Cameron on these films.

905
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: If that's something you can answer. He's a bringing genius.

906
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: He is so creative. He multitasks like madness. He's a writer,

907
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: he's the creator. He dreams of all these universes that

908
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: we can't even begin to fathom. I okay. The one

909
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: thing I said to him, can't you turn me blue?

910
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 1: I don't want I'm like hope. So I also learned

911
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: that he is also very resolute in his decisions. Yeah,

912
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: he seems to be a capital D director. Yeah, you

913
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: know what it is you have to be. Yeah, that's

914
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: how you have to be, how you lead a discipline. Yeah,

915
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: it's a determination, the discipline. You know. The dude, you

916
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: have to be the duo. You have to be the

917
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: one that says yes no, I imagine, I have to

918
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: visualize this. I have to fight for what I believe in,

919
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: and it's cost with the director, like here in the

920
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: Daniels cases with them so, oh my god. Before but

921
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: before I forget you mentioning Maggie Chung, I just I

922
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: just think it's incredible. It's it's incredible, everything all everywhere,

923
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 1: all at once. It's incredible for movie lovers, just because

924
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: you you can't believe you're watching like snippets of a

925
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: wonkr Y film, like you doing Maggie Chung. You know,

926
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: I was gonna doing Tony Lung Like it's just so incredible,

927
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 1: And I just think back to you in this movie,

928
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: like for any actor this would be so so so

929
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: it's steeping yourself in so much work on a technical

930
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: lovester obviously it's just a master class. So Michelle, I'm

931
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: just just congratulations. We do do a thing on the

932
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: podcast where we brought this up to you at the top,

933
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: and I know you can answer it. We asked the

934
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: question what was the culture that made you say culture

935
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: was for you? And I just want to know what

936
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: was it When you can think back to your childhood

937
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: or maybe when you were, you know, a teenager, how

938
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: did you decide to go along this path of becoming you, Like,

939
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: what was that thing you saw or received from the

940
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: universe that made you say I'm gonna do this okay?

941
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: As a child, I think it was very open to

942
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: the world of music, dance, and my mom used to say,

943
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: you know, you could dance before you walked, and so

944
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 1: but I think one I never dreamed that I would

945
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: be an actush I did not have that dream. I

946
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: was always like the ballet, so watching ballets and you know,

947
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: seeing these ethereal creatures on the stage. But one thing

948
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: that always fascinated me was the cinema. My mom was

949
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: an avid cinema goal so human. As a small child,

950
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: we would go as a family to watch all these

951
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: like whether it was Indian movies, comm these love stories, Dracula,

952
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: New Magic, and my dad was like the Nature of

953
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: Us so documentaries, Tarzan ben Her. But that that feeling

954
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: of the magic of cinema, sitting there and like I

955
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 1: still see myself, you know, like watching like the Sound

956
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: of Music, Wizard of Us. It was like all the

957
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: all the things that I love into that. But I

958
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: did not understand at that point the magic of cinema,

959
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: you know, telling a story through cinema. It was just

960
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: enjoying it and taking it in that whole experience. Did

961
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: it lead me to this? I think when I was

962
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: given the opportunity to join it, when I was went

963
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 1: to Hong Kong to do the commercial, the Watch commercial

964
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: with the Jackie Chan and I was given the opportunity

965
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: to partake in this world, and you go like, oh

966
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: my god, I remember the magic of it. Yeah, maybe

967
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: I can be part of that. Maybe that was the

968
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 1: culture thing that drew in and I had to say

969
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 1: it sounds like it was, yeah, right, So I said yes.

970
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: And today I still recognize that as a fact. And

971
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: I think when we went to watch Everything Everywhere, all

972
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 1: at once in south By Southwest, and I think for

973
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: so many people it was the first time they had

974
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: gone to the cinemas in two years. These last two

975
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: years has been such an impact on people's lives and

976
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: so many different levels. And you know, with our industry

977
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: on how it's been you know, touch and go and

978
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 1: opening up more like streaming and different platforms for creative people,

979
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: which is good and sometimes you please don't just rush

980
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: into it and turn it all out, because good things

981
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: does take time, and time is something that we feel

982
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: that we're always like, oh come on, come on, I

983
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 1: need more of. But sitting in that cinema and watching

984
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: not just our our love on there, but sharing that experience, yeah,

985
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: with with everybody. Oh yeah, I would like when you

986
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: hear them laugh and yeah, they actually find me funny.

987
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: You were like, you know what's funny? You were so funny,

988
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: and you were talking about how it's that communal experience.

989
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: The first time I saw it, I did go by myself,

990
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: but it was in a packed theater and during the

991
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: end of the movie, I truly cried during the last

992
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: thirty minutes, and I looked over at the guy next

993
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: to me, and we were having the same experience, and

994
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: it was really fun because even though I didn't know him,

995
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: it was that community connection, right, It was community in

996
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: connection and that and I don't know anything about him,

997
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know anything about his life. I

998
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: don't know anything about the woman he was sitting next to,

999
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: but we knew that we were receiving the same messages

1000
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: and we were internalizing them. And maybe it meant something

1001
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: different to him when he was thinking about his relationships

1002
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: in relation to the movie than it was for me.

1003
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: But we were both moved. And when I went back

1004
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: with my friends last night, it was the same situation

1005
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: where I was just excited to share it. And so

1006
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: I would say to everyone listening, if you've been hesitant

1007
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 1: about going to the movies, now is the time put

1008
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: the mask on. If it's going to make you feel better, go,

1009
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's a movie that, especially you

1010
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: know in the sequences where your reality is breaking and

1011
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: they have those incredible montages, and kudos to the editor.

1012
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: Just watching that in the theater, it was breathtaking. It

1013
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: was just simply breathtaking. Nicely, and with our last five

1014
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: minutes with you, we are going to do I don't

1015
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: think so, honey. So this, Michelle, is our one minute

1016
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: segment on lost cultures, this very podcast where we take

1017
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: something in pop culture or in our lives that are

1018
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: bothering us and we do a rant for one minute

1019
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: about it, using the phrase I don't think so honey.

1020
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: The demonstration first, you're gonna get two one from that

1021
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: one from me, and then you'll all set to go.

1022
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: So for now, let's have Matt Rodgers go. This is

1023
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers. I don't think so, honey. As time starts now,

1024
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Stephanie Shoe as a Texter girl,

1025
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: it takes you a day to get back to me,

1026
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: and I know you can text your old girl from

1027
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: college back sooner than that. I know you're on a

1028
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: worldwide press tour, Mama. I know all of a sudden

1029
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: we're at International Film Star suddenly and about to pop

1030
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: all the way off into another stratosphere. But you can

1031
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: text me back because you listen. We have a sole connection.

1032
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: Stephanie Shoe and I connect. I remember when you were

1033
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: Flarge and a sketch character in college. This is just

1034
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: for me and you right now on people in Hammercats.

1035
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: But I remember all the trips we took. I've seen

1036
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: you get drunk on college campus as a girl. I

1037
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: have photos of you you do not want released. So

1038
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: text within eighteen hours. Let's say I'll give you a day.

1039
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: Text me back within eighteen You always get back, and

1040
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: it's always very warm and happy. Don't forget about Matt

1041
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: Rogers me. We used to have lunch and downsteam. We

1042
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: shared emotional connections. Stephanie Shoe as a text her, I

1043
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, Stephanie Shoe as a person, I

1044
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: do think so honey. You're the most lovely person in

1045
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: the role, and I can't wait to hug you and

1046
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: squeeze you. We love It is crazy Wow. We are

1047
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: we gonna be? Are we gonna be the project that

1048
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: scares Michelle Yo after she's done so much, The project

1049
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: that Michelle YOUO walks away from. I can see where

1050
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: you guys definitely went to the same college. Two crazy

1051
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: rents just like that. I mean you should see. I

1052
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: mean I think Stephanie Shoe and I think I've been

1053
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,479
Speaker 1: in more situations with Steph Shoe and Bowen Yang then

1054
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: I can remember. But um, anyway, I love Steph. I

1055
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: just love. I want to be texted back. She's got

1056
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: a text back. She is very busy right now. Maybe

1057
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: she did say, Stephanie, if you don't texting back, god

1058
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: knows what the next rent is going to be about.

1059
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: She has always been a flaky text her. I will

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01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: say that some people are not a text thing. Are

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01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: you a good texter, Michelle? I am the worst, the worst.

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01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: I've gotten worse. Yeah, Bowen has gotten way worse. Actually sorry,

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01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: and again it's when it's when they get famous. I'm

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01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: telling you, no, we having other things to do. I'm

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01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: not going to say important things to do, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: other other All right, Boon Yang, are you ready to

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01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: do your I don't think so. I'm ready. I'm ready there,

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Speaker 1: Bowen yangs, I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.

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01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. I Love Before Time by

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01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: Coco Lee and the Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon movie not

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01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: winning Best Original Song at the Oscars in two thousand.

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01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: I tell you can you guess which song won that year?

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01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: I bet you can was a two thousand. It was

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01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: two thousand. It was Things Have Changed by Bob Dylan

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01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: from Wonder Boys Things. Who cares? I all do respect

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01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: to Bob Dylan. We love Bob Dylan on this podcast.

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Speaker 1: But A Love Before Time is one of the most

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01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: iconic Mandarin to English translations international hits thirty seconds? Can

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01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: you think of an international hit from that time? Like

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01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: for a movie to cross over that way and for

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01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: the song to be nominated for the Oscar and to

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01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: impact nations, communities all around the world, and to not

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01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,959
Speaker 1: receive it. To do is abominable to me. Second song

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01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: is auditory memory to me. It's sense memory to me.

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01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: When I think about Crouch and take your hind Dreg

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01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: and I think about Michelle, I think about Chaw, you

1087
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: and Fat, I think about things Z, I think about everybody.

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01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: But that song deserves more seconds. I can't believe we

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01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: as a culture have forgotten about A Love Before Time

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01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: by Coco Lee. That's one and that's one minute. Wow,

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01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: absolutely correct, Bo, look at the show right now. She

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01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: is moored. Michelle can do it. You can do it.

1093
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: I know there's something in pop culture that grinds your gears.

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01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: Can you bring me a bottle of whiskey? Please? Whatever else?

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01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: You do it for as long as you want. We won't.

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01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: It won't be the full minute. But it's something that's

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01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: like on your mind, maybe from this press tour. Perhaps. Okay,

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01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: you know what I think. One thing that I wish says,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, and put your phone down

1100
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: and have dinner with your most adorable cuckoo and all

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01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: of you are still on the freaking phone. What are

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01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: you texting someone on the table that's next to you,

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01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 1: and you can't have a real conversation. And when we

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01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: go to the cinemas, you freaking put your phone down, sweet,

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01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: and don't try and receive messages in the middle of

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01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: a movie when your life st are so bright and

1107
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: you're taking me away from this amazing movie or everything

1108
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: everywhere all at once. And if you don't look at

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01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: it and watch your phone for two seconds thirty seconds,

1110
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: rip on what is happening? So I don't think so

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01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: honey that you can't put your phone down. You have

1112
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: to put your phone down because you want to have

1113
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: a gorgeous dinner with your adorable godmother or auntie or

1114
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: whatever it is, and you second phone down and if

1115
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: you're in the cinemas, if I see you one more time,

1116
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, you're gonna get away with it,

1117
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: because I'm let the hell out of you that phone

1118
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: at eight you Okay, you that one, Michelle, you really

1119
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: very delete on that one. You were great. That was perfect.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I did that, you know the Alamo

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01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: Drafthouse where I saw the first time I saw um

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01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: everything everyone all at once. I love they really they

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01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 1: make it funny too, like they're like, seriously, put the

1124
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: phone away, seriously, put the phone away, and you do.

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01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: But it's crazy that we have to get to this

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01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: point where we're like threatening the audience because they really

1127
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: can't put the phone down. No, it's so crazy. And

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Speaker 1: then they answer the phone. It's like, yeah, I'm watching

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01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: a movie. Okay, Yeah, I'm in the cinema okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1130
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean in the cinema watching a movie. Like what

1131
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: the hell? Yeah, I know you're not on the movie

1132
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: anymore if you're on the phone. Wow, this was so

1133
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: so special. Thank you so much for taking the time

1134
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: to talk to us, Michelle, Thank you both of you.

1135
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: And the movie is everything everywhere, all at one, and

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01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: luckily for you, it's now playing nationwide everyone lucky audiences everywhere. Um,

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01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: and you have to go. You have to go, and

1138
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: you you're going to be moved by it. You're gonna

1139
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: be surprised by it. You will laugh, scream, cry, feel

1140
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: all the emotions. It isn't that why we go? Yeah,

1141
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: it's why we go. Thank you so much, Michelle, Thanks,

1142
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you, and thank you Matt.

1143
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: It was a real pleasure talking to Thank you foraking

1144
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: the time. Of course. Well well well that was um yeah,

1145
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: just really fantastic. I want this is I won't get

1146
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 1: over this. This is a highlight of my year, highlight

1147
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,439
Speaker 1: of my life. You texted me right after Cloud nine,

1148
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: Cloud nine, Cloud nine, and thank you for bearing with

1149
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: this structurally different kind of episode. You know, she this

1150
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: opportunity to talk to her. It came in a little

1151
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: last minute and we were like, yes, let's we've got

1152
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: to make it work. No matter what. I texted people like,

1153
01:05:58,280 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: you know, producers at work. I was like, I need

1154
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: this hour blocked off. Yeah, I'm it's a very important

1155
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: thing that I have to do, so please don't schedule

1156
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: anything around it. I've never pulled that before. I was like,

1157
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: you need to leave this open. So um completely worth it.

1158
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, this is amazing. And we only jumped

1159
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: on because we want to give the readers a full episode. Um, well,

1160
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: you see we jammed in the culture question. We jammed in.

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01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, and we're gonna jam in

1162
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: the fact that we finished every episode with the song

1163
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 1: great Hi would see fuck bye, hey bye bye. I

1164
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: see in your eyes the world I know they do.

1165
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: What tie? It's an amazing whoa, I love that time.

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01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: That was good. Listen to it. It's like it's like

1167
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: an R and B song mixed with like a traditional

1168
01:06:56,040 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: Chinese like gujang Bob Like it's it's quiet, says and

1169
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: I agree, he did get quiet really like my gain

1170
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: is my gain is off? Yeah, something happened. I thought

1171
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: you did it on purpose? No, no, did you touch

1172
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: the mic? Consa saying, Um, I don't think so. How's

1173
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: how's it now? Is it better? Better? Yeah? Okay, okay,

1174
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: I think you have to sing it again. Really it

1175
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: got quiet in the song, very okay and we're keeping

1176
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: this whole thing. You have to sing it again. I

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01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: would do bye bye in your eye. The world I

1178
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: know fades away before time time. I butchered the last

1179
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: little melody, but I think it was one of the

1180
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: most stunning vocal performances of the of the decade. I

1181
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: think Coco Lee. Her name is Coco Lee. Can you

1182
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 1: think of a better pop star name? I can't, and

1183
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 1: I know names like Camila Cabe and I still think

1184
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: this name is better. Thank you well, goodbye bye. Do

1185
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 1: you hear the rest of that song? Listen to a

1186
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 1: love before time Bye Coco Lee on the Crouching Tiger

1187
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: Hidden Dragon sound. I'm putting it on a checklist for today.

1188
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: Bye Bye,