1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: If it cost my peace, it's too expensive, and that 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: has shown up in my career, in relationships in life 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: where I'm just like I can love this thing person 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: place from afar if it's going to cost me my peace. 5 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Emily a body here, coming to you live 6 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: from the AG studio. You are listening to Hurdle, a 7 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: wellness focused podcast where I connect with everyone from your 8 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: favorite athletes to top experts and industry CEOs about their 9 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: highest highs, toughest moments, and everything in between. We all 10 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: go through hurdles in life, and my goal through these 11 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: discussions is to empower you to better navigate yours and 12 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: move with intention so that you can stride towards your 13 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: own big potential and of course have some fun along 14 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: the way. For today's episode, I am sitting down with 15 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 2: Olympic gold medalist turned entrepreneur also past Hurdle guest Natasha 16 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 2: hay Stings. Natasha and I are wrapping all about best 17 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: practice tips on how to prioritize your personal health your 18 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: self care when life feels hectic, maybe Bruno is lingering 19 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 2: and you've just got to take care of you. She 20 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: definitely knows a thing or two about this as a 21 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 2: single mom. She's also pursuing her master's degree to become 22 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:40,279 Speaker 2: a therapist and training as a professional athlete. This woman's 23 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: got a lot going on, and she has learned and 24 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: implemented the strategies, tips and tricks that we talk about 25 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: today to get her to a place that she needs 26 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: to be to manage it all. We talk about the 27 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: beauty of a morning routine and how sometimes it's important 28 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: to have some grease with yourself when things don't go 29 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: as planned. Also, we rap about the of being honest 30 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: with yourself about how you really feel. If you are 31 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: feeling overwhelmed, if you are feeling like you just quote 32 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: unquote literally cannot then you have to be real with 33 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 2: that feeling and you have to confront it in order 34 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: to move forward in order to do something about it. 35 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: Really really loved this conversation with Natasha. It's been a 36 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: minute since she's been on the show. I'll make sure 37 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: to link to her original episode in the show notes. 38 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: But thank you friend for your time. I appreciate it, 39 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 2: and I'm excited to bring this one to the feed. 40 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: Make sure you're following along with Hurdle over on social 41 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: It's at Hurdle Podcast. I am over at Emily a 42 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 2: Body And if you haven't done so yet, head on 43 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: into wherever you are listening to this podcast, and if 44 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: there's an option to rate and review it, I would 45 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: absolutely love for you to just take a few seconds 46 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: and do that. Make sure you're following along with Hurdle 47 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: over on social It's at Hurdle podcast. I am over 48 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: at Emily a Body And with that, let's get to 49 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: hurdling today. I am sitting down with Natasha Hastings. She 50 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: is a two time Olympic gold medalist turned entrepreneur. A mama, 51 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: how you doing today? 52 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good. How are you? 53 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: I'm so good. I'm so good. I'm so excited for 54 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: us to have the opportunity to catch up again. It's 55 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: been a while now since you and I first sat down. 56 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, just right around two years, right, like we Yeah, 57 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: right before the Panini happened. 58 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: So oh, the Panini, the Panini, I like. I'd actually 59 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: much rather call it that than the alternative, to be honest, 60 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: I know, well, you and I are here today to 61 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: wrap about self care strategies prioritizing your health when everything 62 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: is going crazy. As I mentioned, just now and introing 63 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: you an impressive stellar history as an act athlete and 64 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 2: now balancing all things being a mom while also being 65 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: an entrepreneur. You're pretty busy, so I would imagine that 66 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: this balancing act, so to speak, has been one that 67 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: you have been fine tuning for some time now. 68 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, for for sure. Balance is a word that 69 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: I struggle with because I don't know that it's realistic, 70 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: but more so just kind of prioritizing and being forgiving 71 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: to myself, giving myself some grace. But balance probably for 72 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: me at least, not the right word, And honestly, talking 73 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: to some other moms, we kind of feel similar that, 74 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: like balance isn't necessarily the right word, but you're just 75 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: kind of what's most important today. Let me take care 76 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: of that and you just keep going. 77 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you just keep going. So before we get into 78 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 2: some concrete, actionable tips and tricks that I'm sure you've 79 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 2: got up your sleeve, why don't you give us a 80 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: little download on what's been going on with you over 81 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: the last couple of years. How has the Panini've been 82 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: for you and your family? 83 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been interesting. So first and foremost, I guess 84 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: I should mention that I relocated to South Carolina. I 85 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: did my undergrad here at the University of South Carolina, 86 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: and I moved back about four months ago now because 87 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: I'm in grad school. So I am in grad school 88 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: for clinical mental health. And that largely came about right 89 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: around the time that we met. You didn't know this 90 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: because I wasn't sharing at that point because it was very, 91 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: very fresh. I became a single mom five months postpartum. 92 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm training for the Olympics, trying to do something impossible, 93 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: and then Kanini happened and everything stopped, and so like 94 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: I'm deep in therapy and I'm training, and I'm going 95 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: through this custody battle and just all these things, and 96 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is what I want to do. 97 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: You know. I do my work through my nonprofit and 98 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: Natasha Hastings Foundation, and it just seemed to make sense 99 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: that like this is like the final piece that I 100 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: need to like really feel like I'm doing the work 101 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: through my foundation. And also like wanting to work with 102 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: other athletes after retiring, and so realizing that like sports counseling, 103 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: but just mental health in general in the black community 104 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: and the women community. I wanted to be the one 105 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: to fill that space. So the Panini gave me a 106 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: little bit of time to slow down and enroll in 107 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: school for that, so I enrolled online at first. But 108 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: now I'm back in Colombia working as a graduate assistant 109 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: with the track team here and getting my degree. And 110 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: then my son Liam, I have to mention him. He 111 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: is awesome. He's almost two and a half now, the 112 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: love of my life. Just everything to me. And of 113 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: course I'm still training as well. I haven't retired from 114 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: running yet, so there's a lot of things. But the 115 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: Panini brought about like for me, it was time to 116 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: be still, but also so like still kind of work on, 117 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: you know, the things that are important to me. 118 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 2: The things that are important to you. I love that. 119 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 2: So how is South Carolina? 120 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: Then? It's interesting because it is a place that I 121 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: swore up and down I would never come back to. 122 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a New York City girl. Columbia. South 123 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: Carolina just its history in itself. I mean it was 124 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: just recently that the Confederate flag was taken off of 125 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: the state House, and it's just it's a lot different however, 126 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: since being back, and I think it has a bit 127 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: to do with my priorities as a mom, just being different. 128 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: Now it feels at home, It doesn't feel like what 129 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: I thought it would feel like, as far as like 130 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: I was totally like, all right, I have twenty three 131 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: months to finish my program. That's how long I'm here for. 132 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: And now I'm just kind of like, Okay, maybe I'll 133 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: move when I finish, maybe I'll stay. Yeah, So so 134 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: we'll see. 135 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: We'll see TVD TBD. Okay, So talk about a little 136 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: bit of a pivot here, adding in going back to 137 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: school into the mix. Obviously, with doing that, it must 138 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: be difficult, as you said at the top of this episode, 139 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: to find that time for you. So why don't you 140 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: tell us a little bit about how you do make 141 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: that time. 142 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: Being a single mom with everything else that I'm doing, 143 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: that's what comes first. And it's been a struggle for 144 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: me because I became a mom at thirty three, So 145 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: my identity and my person was something that was important 146 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: to me. And it's only recently that I've kind of 147 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: come to terms with this, like mom being a part 148 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: of my identity and so just kind of embracing that 149 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: and how much of a change I have personally gone through. 150 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: But I love being a mom. Want to do it again, 151 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: can't wait to do it again, maybe two or three 152 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: times more. But you know, making time for myself and 153 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: so and the things that I love and who I 154 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: am first and foremost. So particularly now my son is 155 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: actually with his father, Today is going to be a 156 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: day that I literally take care of myself. And that's 157 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: something that's important to me, that the time that I 158 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: don't have my son, that's some time that I've designated 159 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: that like, yeah, I can use that time to get 160 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: work done that I might not be able to get 161 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: done with him. But I've got to squeeze in the 162 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: time to take care of myself. So this morning he 163 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: left yesterday, I was like, I'm going to be gentle 164 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: to myself this morning. I slept in I'm still in 165 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: my pajamas. I took a shower, washed my hair, you know, 166 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: put a little makeup on even though I'm not going anywhere, 167 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: made my cup of coffee, made a hot breakfast because 168 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: most mornings I don't get to have a hot breakfast 169 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: or hot cup of coffee. But I'm intentional about the 170 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: time that he's not here. Another thing, when we first 171 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: moved here, I put him in a daycare, and we 172 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: just I moved right after his second birthday and he 173 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: hadn't been in daycare. He was with my mom. My 174 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: mom was my primary caretaker. So I put him in daycare, 175 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: and when my day was over, I would be like 176 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: rushing to pick him up from daycare. And it was 177 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: my therapist who told me because I was complaining, like 178 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: I don't have time to go get my nails done. 179 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: I don't have time to you know, get my hair done. 180 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: I don't have time to wash my hair, because you know, 181 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: my thought process went to, Okay, I'm training, I'm working, 182 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: he's in school all day, I'm you know, doing those 183 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: things all day. I don't really have time with him anymore. 184 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: So I want to pick him up as soon as 185 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: I'm free. But then I'm juggling, like having to run 186 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: behind a two year old and I still have things 187 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: to do, you know, or I'm not able to do 188 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: things for myself. And my therapist was like, so you're 189 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: paying for daycare and you're rushing to pick him up 190 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: because why And so you know, now I may leave 191 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: him at daycare for an extra hour or two because 192 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: he's at a safe place, a place that he loves too. 193 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes I go to pick him up and I'm like, okay, 194 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: but come on, we gotta go home now. But it 195 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: allows me that time to go and do the things 196 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: that I need to do for myself. And then what 197 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: also then in turn happened was now when he's home, 198 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: that time is more meaningful because now I can pour 199 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: more into him because I've taken care of the things 200 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: that I need to take care of. So we hear 201 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: it all the time, like give everything it's time, so 202 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: that while you're doing the things that mean the most 203 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: to you, you can be present and in the moment 204 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: for those things. And that was really a challenge when 205 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: I first moved here, and it's still something that sometimes 206 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily get to finish things the way that 207 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to finish things, or in the time frame, 208 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: but giving myself that grace that like, Okay, this was 209 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: the time that I said I was going to work 210 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: on it today. Tomorrow, maybe I'll move things around and 211 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: give it another thirty minutes, but now I need to 212 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: do what I need to do for me and for 213 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: my family. 214 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: That idea of I've got to do what's good for 215 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 2: me and good for my family, Like the bigger picture 216 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: really is that taking care of yourself is ultimately making 217 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: you better for your family. And I also love the 218 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 2: sentiment about giving the thing that you're doing at that 219 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: moment your attention so that you can be fully present 220 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: in whatever you have going on. When we reflect about 221 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 2: life before the pandemic, when all of us arguably may 222 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 2: have been quote unquote better at handling more, the question arises, 223 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: was it that we were better at handling more or 224 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 2: were we actually not fully present and so many of 225 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: the things that we were multitasking and doing and running 226 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: around trying to just check things off the to do list. Arguably, 227 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 2: now I would say I would rather do less but 228 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: be fully committed and fully present to the things that 229 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: I want to do, then do all of these things 230 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: just to check the box. 231 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: Right exactly exactly. For me, it was like a lot 232 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: of life passes you by and you miss your victories, 233 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: you miss the good times because you're just kind of 234 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: like onto the next. And so, yeah, like being present 235 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: and being able to separate the things, because I feel 236 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: like that was a lot of the pandemic too, where 237 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: it's like we're home, but a lot of all the 238 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: same things still need to be done, and you're trying 239 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: to juggle all of these things at one time, and 240 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: it's just we're just one one person, so you know, 241 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: really being able to compartmentalize and like really focus on 242 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,479 Speaker 1: what's important and what we can trim out. 243 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's so true. And I was just thinking 244 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: about this, the idea of it us saying like, well, 245 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: I'm home, so I should be able to do all 246 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: the things that I need to do like in my home. Well, like, yeah, 247 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 2: your home, but like that doesn't devalue the amount of 248 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: stuff that you're trying to get done just because you 249 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 2: don't actually have to leave your home to do it. 250 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: Especially since so many of us have been able to 251 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: take our work home in a way that maybe we 252 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: weren't able to do before. It's almost as if it 253 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: has become impossible not to do a lot of the 254 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: things that we had to leave to do before. Now 255 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: it's like, oh, well, you can do it all at home. 256 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: So this idea that you should feel less overwhelmed because 257 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: like you can do it all without leaving your house, Like, yeah, 258 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: that doesn't really ring true for me. 259 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: And I think that's so like counterintuitive too, because I'm 260 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: like a person that I've For me, I've found that 261 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: if I have to work from home, I have to 262 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: find whatever. But I'm more productive going into an office. 263 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: And for me, what it is is my home is 264 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: my sanctuary. My home is my place of peace. And 265 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: so again going back to these boundaries, a lot of 266 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: our boundaries were crossed because now, for some of us, 267 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: bringing work home is not I don't want to deal 268 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: with work, and there's something about physically leaving that there. 269 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: You know, when I'm on the track and this is 270 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: my place of business, this is what I do, this 271 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: is what I love, I still get to come home 272 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: and leave that there. And now where a lot of 273 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: us are having to bring the work home to where 274 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: home is home, it can cross hairs for some people. 275 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: And I was one of those people where it's like, Okay, 276 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: I have got to you know, yes, if I'm working 277 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: from home, there's a certain time that I work from home. 278 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: But for the most part, I'm more productive in the office. 279 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: And that's something that I've realized about myself, and I 280 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: can create that boundary. But yeah, there's something about like 281 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: the peace and sanctity of my home that bringing work 282 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: and the pandemic and everything that came with it home. 283 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: It created chaos. So this idea that like we're supposed 284 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: to be more efficient and more productive at home wasn't 285 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: so for everyone, because instead we were bringing the chaos home, 286 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: and and people families who had like multiple children, and 287 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: you're bringing more chaos to what might already be. 288 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: Chaotic, you know, I do think that on the note 289 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: of boundaries, even if you don't have like copious amounts 290 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: of space to have like a separate room for an 291 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: office or a separate space to like specifically do your work, 292 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 2: there were small things that I could do during the 293 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: height of the pandemic, if you will, back in twenty twenty, 294 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: that empowered me to like find some solace in the 295 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: fact that my work and my home were one and 296 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: the same. I've since moved, but at the time, like 297 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: I literally had a small desk in the corner of 298 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: my bedroom. I slept next to where I sat for 299 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: twelve god, I mean it felt like some days like 300 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: twelve hours a day, which was really, to your point, 301 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: like super overwhelming, But being able to set some of 302 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 2: those boundaries and parameters was really important for me. It 303 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 2: was like, Okay, you will not work after X time 304 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 2: or you will make sure that before you open your 305 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 2: laptop in the morning, unless like literally something is on 306 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: fire in your inbox, you will make sure to journal 307 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: and maybe like shake up your ag one and make 308 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: sure to leave your home for at least five minutes 309 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: and walk around the block if like whatever workout you 310 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 2: were doing in the morning didn't take you out there, Like, 311 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: there were certainly little things that I could do for 312 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 2: myself that helped me show up better and feel a 313 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: little bit less overwhelmed despite the uncontrollable, And that is 314 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: something that I think is one of the biggest takeaways 315 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: for me from the pandemic really is that I'm done 316 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: being angry about the things that I can't control, and 317 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 2: that anger it doesn't it doesn't serve me whatsoever. 318 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: That's a fact now that one that anger piece. 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But on the days 379 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: where you are trying to quote unquote do it all 380 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: or do many more things at once, what are some 381 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 2: of your tried and true tricks and tips to navigate 382 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 2: that kind of chaos and take care of you. 383 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: I still do the old fashioned pen and paper scheduling. 384 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. 385 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: The Google calendar doesn't work for me, and sometimes I 386 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: plan my day hour by hour. And it is also 387 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: a lot or some of what you said in terms 388 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: of like making sure that I have that time before 389 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: I get out of the bed. I'd love to have 390 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: a hot cup of coffee, but my son is an 391 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: early riser, so that doesn't always happen. It's planning my 392 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: day the old fashion way, taking the time in the morning. 393 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: Some mornings I will drop him off at school and 394 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: come back and give myself thirty minutes of just like 395 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: I make my own breakfast, I have my own quiet time, 396 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: not turning on the TV or looking at my phone 397 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: in the first fifteen to twenty minutes that I wake up, 398 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: and just kind of like taking that time to meditate 399 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: and set my intentions for the day and just kind 400 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: of clear my mind before like embarking on the day. 401 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: But my scheduler is my best friend. And the biggest 402 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: lesson that I've I've also had to learn here and 403 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: especially as a mom, is like being truthful about how 404 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: I feel. My therapist told me a couple of weeks ago, 405 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: she I was we were talking about something and without 406 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: going into detail, you know, I was like, you know, 407 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: when people ask me, I feel like I'm just you know, 408 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: lying and I'm saying one thing, but you know, in 409 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: my heart, I feel another way. And she was she 410 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: said to me, you know, that's a form of self betrayal. 411 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: And so she was like, you know, you don't have 412 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: to put people in your business, but you can also 413 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: be honest about how you're feeling. And I think that 414 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: that resonated with me in a number of ways because 415 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: I think that it's important for me to acknowledge how 416 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm feeling, and on the days where I feel overwhelmed, 417 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: I need to acknowledge that, and in acknowledging that, then 418 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: I can reassess my day. Take today, for instance, my 419 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: son's gone. There's a ton of things that I want 420 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: to do. I got him a playhouse for Christmas. I'm 421 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 1: setting it up in his room. Blah blah blah. I'm 422 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: going to spend the day doing that. And I woke 423 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: up this morning and I was like, you did a 424 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: whole lot over the Christmas vacation. You start class in 425 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: a week and a half. It's okay to actually push 426 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: your day back, relax, spend the morning in your bathroom. 427 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: It's okay allowing myself space for that, because every day 428 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: isn't going to be peachy Rosie, planning down to the 429 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: minute happen the way that you want it to happen. 430 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: But you know there are days where obviously if my 431 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: son was here, I wouldn't have been able to take 432 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: the morning in that sense. But when I can, I 433 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: give myself space to do that definitely. 434 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 2: And something that said to me once, and I know 435 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: that it's in her cookbook. She says that mood follows action. 436 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: So the action in this sense is acknowledging what's really 437 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 2: going on, because until we acknowledge what's really going on 438 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: or how we feel, then we can't actually do anything 439 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: about it, and we're kind of stuck in this like icky, 440 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: yucky feeling. You know, we're like, oh, I don't know 441 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: why I feel this way, and it's like, well, like 442 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: you're completely ignoring whatever's going on inside. And until you 443 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 2: tell yourself, like, you know what, this is, what this is, 444 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: how I feel, this is, this is where I'm at. 445 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 2: So you admit that to yourself, then you can't move 446 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 2: forward and do anything about it. And I'm with you. 447 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: I totally support the morning in the Rope thing. I 448 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: think something for me that that twenty twenty one really 449 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: did was. I remember my friends used to joke we 450 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: were certainly younger. I would say, maybe like six seven 451 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 2: years ago. I'm in like my mid twenties, and I 452 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: had these neighbors and they were famous in our building 453 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: for like being the ultimate Sunday ers, Like these two 454 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 2: girls that would like just throw on movies all day. 455 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: They'd probably be hungover and they would like lay on 456 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: the couch for like twelve hours. And at the time, 457 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: like I was the friend that was like physically incapable 458 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 2: of doing something like that. Like they were like, Emily, 459 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: do you ever sit still? I can't imagine, Like I 460 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: would try to pay you one hundred dollars and see 461 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: if you could actually stay on the couch for twelve hours. 462 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying I do that all the time now, 463 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 2: But in twenty twenty one, I became good quote unquote 464 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 2: at like actually resting, actually like allowing myself to do 465 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: something like that without being like angry or like frustrated 466 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 2: that like I needed to be doing something else or 467 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 2: you know, working hard on Project X or Project Y, 468 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: like giving myself back grace to be like no, like 469 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: it's okay, just to like boo. And that's hard. It's hard. 470 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: It's hard because of I would say, like the hustle culture. 471 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 2: It's hard because we're always like especially I know that 472 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: you can relate as an entrepreneur, you're always asking yourself 473 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: like what else can I do? Who else can I 474 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 2: talk to? Who should I be meeting with? What should 475 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 2: I be doing? Like whatever? But like at the end 476 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 2: of the day, not saying like we could put everything off, 477 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 2: but sometimes you got to put some stuff. 478 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: Off, some stuff. Yeah, yeah, it's okay, it's okay. The 479 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: world I've learned that it's going to be okay. Sometimes 480 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: I might not meet this deadline or the deadline that 481 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: I've created in my mind, but as long as it 482 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: gets done, that's that's what matters. If my mental if 483 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: my headspace, because because even that I remember another thing 484 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: that my therapist told me early on was my mental 485 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: health and sanity was also for my son's benefit. And 486 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: I think that applies in every aspect of our life, 487 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: right because when you're well rested and able to be 488 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: more present in what it is that you're doing, you 489 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: can be happier about the product that it is that 490 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: you're putting out or whatever it is that you're working 491 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: on because you actually really are well rested, able to 492 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: focus and get the thing done the way you want 493 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: to get it done, as opposed to something that you're 494 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: just like, I don't care, I need to get this done, 495 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: and then you look back on it like, man, I 496 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: could have done this so much better or you know, 497 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: put better effort into it. And so that time that 498 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: we take to take care of ourselves so that we 499 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: can show up that way is incredibly important. It's just 500 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: as important as the work that we do in our 501 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: relationships and in our work and all the things in 502 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: our life. 503 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: You've talked about speaking with a therapist. You also mentioned 504 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 2: a little bit of meditation. Is there anything else that 505 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: you do when it comes to taking care of your 506 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: mental health in the day to day. 507 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: I think hydration and nutrition gets a lot gets left 508 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: out of the conversation a lot, but I think it's 509 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: incredibly important. I don't know about you, but when I'm hungry, 510 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm hungry. My mood is not the greatest. And hydration 511 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: for all the obvious reasons. I like to have good skin, 512 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: but like, we can't function without hydration and another mood booster. Honestly, 513 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: and I think sometimes we forget the basics. 514 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: It's so easy to like be. 515 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: Going through the day and look up and be like, oh, no, 516 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: I didn't need lunch, you know, making that time to 517 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: and then separate your lunch from your work. Don't do 518 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: the working lunch thing. We actually have a breakroom in 519 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: the athletic department, and I go down to the breakroom 520 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: to have my lunch, and I'll sit at the table 521 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: by myself, but like again removing myself from that work atmosphere. 522 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: I feel like enough emphasis isn't placed on nutrition and hydration, 523 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: and I think that those things are important. Making sure 524 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: your vitamins are because they're all mood boosters. 525 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 2: I bought conveniently when I moved in here, one of 526 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: those maths that you put like in front of your sink. 527 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: It's from a company called House of Noah. I am 528 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: like obsessed with this matt and it's so compy to 529 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: stand on. So on a good day, the luxury for 530 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: me is like making a salad or something and then 531 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: like standing at the kitchen island on my cushy little 532 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: matt and like eating my lunch. Like that feels like 533 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 2: a really nice break from just like being sat at 534 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: my desk all day. 535 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: I get it. 536 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: Okay, So new question, hydration, implementing talk therapy, making it 537 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: that time for you in the morning and at night. 538 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 2: I mean, these are a lot of really great strategies. 539 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: My last two questions for you. Firstly, did you have 540 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 2: a time maybe where you realized that the lack of 541 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: self care was actually debilitating for you? 542 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: Yes? And ironically it was like at the beginning of 543 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: the pandemic, because I admittedly was in survival mode because, 544 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: as I mentioned, my ex and I had split up. 545 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm a newly single mom. I'm still like trying to 546 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: hold on to like training for the Olympics, just without 547 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: like sitting down and acknowledge what was happening. I always 548 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: go back to my first session with my therapist, because 549 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: I literally went to see her the week after we 550 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: broke up, and I, you know, she's like, so, what's 551 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: going on? And I like laid out all these things 552 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: and she. 553 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: Was like okay. 554 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: And so later on she that day she told me 555 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm great at compartmentalizing. But later on in our counseling relationship, 556 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: she's still my counselor two years later, she was like, 557 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: I always remember that first session where you came in 558 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: and you just you laid out everything that was happening, 559 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: everything that you were doing, and she was like, I'm 560 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: looking at you thinking like you should be in a 561 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: fetal position, balling your eyes out right now, and you're 562 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: just like, this is what it is, this was, this 563 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: was needs, this is what needs to happen. How are 564 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: you going to help me fix this? And I didn't 565 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: take the time to like talk about acknowledging that I 566 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: was overwhelmed, and in doing that a lot of things 567 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: were coming to a head in my life and things 568 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: weren't playing out the way that I wanted them to 569 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: play out. Obviously, even though I'm showing up, but I 570 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: wasn't showing up as my best self because I wasn't 571 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: taking care of myself and I wasn't acknowledging what I 572 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: was feeling and what I was going through because it 573 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: was just like I got to survive. I got to 574 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: make sure that we get through this. I got to 575 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: make sure that I'm on the team. I got to 576 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: make sure that I take care of all these things 577 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: without taking care of myself. And then just realizing that, 578 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: like this little guy is depending on me, and if 579 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: I don't take care of myself. You know, not only 580 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: is there the possibility that I won't be here to 581 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: be there for him, but I can't be there for 582 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: him in the best way possible. And you know, even 583 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: understanding that they're going to be I'm going to inflict 584 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 1: my own traumas on him unintentionally of course, But what 585 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: I can do to prevent or you know, be accountable 586 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: for those things. I want to do those things. So 587 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: and it all starts with taking care of me. So yeah, 588 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: the paniniini full circle. 589 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: Man, I'm like sitting here thinking like, what's for lunch? 590 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 2: Do I have the things to make? Wow? Yeah, I 591 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 2: think that this situation. I mean, obviously everyone yours has 592 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 2: its specifics, but so many women can certainly relate. So 593 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 2: many of us can really relate to this idea that 594 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: it's easy to put a lot of things in front 595 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 2: of taking care of ourselves. But again, this idea that 596 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: until you prioritize your self care, then you're not going 597 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 2: to be able to execute and so many of the 598 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 2: other things that are important to you in perhaps the 599 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: best way, and so making that time, making it a 600 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 2: priority is just it's so so so important when you 601 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: think about self care and you know, taking care of 602 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 2: yourself in twenty twenty two. Is there anything that you 603 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 2: want to add to the mix or maybe switch up 604 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 2: a little bit. 605 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: There's something that I want to revisit. In the past, 606 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: I still journal, but I have more taken up voice 607 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: journaling because sometimes it's like I just have these thoughts 608 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: just circling in my mind and it's just like I 609 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: just need to vomit it out, just get it out. 610 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: And so it's been easier for me to voice note 611 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: record and I've shared that with a couple of my 612 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: friends and that's been helpful. But I want to revisit 613 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: like actually journaling pen and paper. But also I used 614 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: to do vision boards and I used to always do 615 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: it before the new year, and it was the coolest 616 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: thing because it would always be somewhere in my room, 617 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 1: in my bedroom that I would see all the time, 618 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: but at the end of the year, it would always 619 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: be cool to see like, oh, oh my goodness, this 620 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: actually happened. I actually did this, or I got closer 621 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: to this, or oh we forgot about this. And so 622 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: I want to be able to do that going forward. 623 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: I think that was one of my practices that like 624 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 1: as a mom that didn't quite work out or I 625 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: kind of forgot. So I want to get back to 626 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: that because that's something that allows me to stop and 627 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: celebrate my small victories. I think a lot of times 628 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: we get caught up in like the big picture that 629 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: we don't get to like stop and say, like, oh, well, 630 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: I've actually made progress. I have been working towards that. 631 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 1: That happened. Oh my goodness, I didn't take the time 632 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: to do a little happy dance for that. So I 633 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: want to get back to that. 634 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. I think that for me, 635 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 2: I was in a really great groove of journaling for 636 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 2: like a year or so, and then I fell out 637 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 2: of it. And the way that I got back into 638 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 2: it actually was revisiting it in a way that didn't 639 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 2: look like it used to and not judging the fact 640 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 2: that like it wasn't the same format as it was 641 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 2: in the previous year. So I started doing three things 642 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 2: I was grateful for, but I wouldn't write them down 643 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 2: until I was sat at my desk because I got 644 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 2: to this point where in the mornings, I was putting 645 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 2: off the journaling that I used to do because I 646 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 2: wanted to get to the rest of the things that 647 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 2: I wanted to get done in the morning. But when 648 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 2: I get to my desk every day, there is this 649 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 2: moment of like, Okay, what comes first, or like what 650 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 2: email am I going to tackle? What thing am I 651 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 2: going to do? What expert am I going to reach 652 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 2: out to? And it was almost like, okay, well, something 653 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 2: that could help me kind of organize my thoughts every 654 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 2: day in this one way is like sitting down at 655 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 2: my desk and before I make that to do list, 656 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 2: I just write down three things that I feel really 657 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 2: thankful for in the last twenty four hours and that 658 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 2: it was a really great way for me to get 659 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 2: back to a practice that I really appreciated. 660 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 1: I love your ability to what's the word I get 661 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: stuck in, like need to look this way and feel 662 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: this way that I don't give myself that like the 663 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: the ability to give yourself that room to like, Okay, 664 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm not going to journal that way anymore, but I'm 665 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: going to do this and that is what I need 666 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: and it feels good and I'm not going to get 667 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: stuck in Well, journaling has to be this way. 668 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 2: I love that, thank you, I'm looking on that well, 669 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 2: I do think that that's something that that does require work, right, 670 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 2: because there are certain things and I'm not saying like 671 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 2: everything is like this in my life, but there are 672 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 2: definitely times where I get so fed up with like 673 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 2: my own bs of well I was doing this or 674 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 2: I was this way. I mean, please, as an athlete, 675 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 2: I'm sure because I can certainly relate to this, and 676 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 2: I've been through moments like this where I'm frustrated that 677 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 2: I'm not performing in the same way that I used to, 678 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 2: or that I, you know, am not the same Emily 679 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 2: that is running marathons now at thirty three, that was 680 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 2: running marathons at thirty one. And I got to a 681 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 2: place again where I was just like tired of my 682 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 2: own vs and instead of being angry about the things 683 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 2: that I can't control or being mad at myself that 684 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 2: I'm not executing in a certain way, it's like, Okay, 685 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 2: well this is how it is now, So how can 686 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 2: I execute and find that same level of contentment or 687 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 2: joy from these things? And we're doing these things, so 688 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 2: many of these self care habits, so many of these rituals, 689 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 2: so many of these activities, because they bring us joy. 690 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 2: So why are you getting angry or forcing yourself to 691 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 2: do something that doesn't make you feel that same way. 692 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 2: It just doesn't make sense. 693 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 1: Well, you just gave me a word. I'm gonna practice that. 694 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. Well. Thank you so 695 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 2: much for your tips and your takeaways and of course 696 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 2: taking the time. I'm so happy to hear that you're 697 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 2: getting a little bit more of it for yourself right now. 698 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 2: How do how do the hurdlers follow along with you? 699 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 2: How do they keep up with you going in here 700 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 2: to the new year? 701 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: Thank you? This was a pleasure catching up with you 702 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: since the Panini, since we last met. But yeah, I'm 703 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 1: on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram. Natasha Hastings Easy peasy, Yeah peasy. 704 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 2: I'm over at Emily a Body and at Hurdle Podcast 705 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 2: Another Hurdle Conquered. Catch you guys next time.