1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotlieb Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: by searching app as Booming Up America Doug Gottlieb Show, 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: M M. 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: How are you hey? Hope you had a great weekend. 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: Hope you listen to my guy Dan Byer yesterday or 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: throughout last week as he's filling up the radio hours. 12 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: He's back with us today. Excited to have dB along. 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: Of course, you got Jason Stewart as a producer and 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: my guy I was Sam on the ones and two 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: is welcome in. Rick Buker is going to join us 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: about twenty five after the hour. We'll talk a little bit. 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark also a new ad with Katelnar, which I'll 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: give it my thoughts on. We got a big football trade. 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: Is Jalen Ramsey's now Pittsburgh Steelers. We got all the 20 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: things to get to. Let me start with Lebron. James 21 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: rich Paul is Lebron James agent Rich Paul was the 22 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: guy who Lebron met, I think selling jerseys out of 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: the back of his car, right, So he's part of, 24 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, starting from the bottom. Now we're here, and 25 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: he had this statement to ESPN. Lebron wants to compete 26 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: for a championship. Paul told ESPN. He knows the Lakers 27 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: are building for the future. He understands that, but he 28 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: values a realistic chance at winning it all. We're very 29 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: appreciative of the partnership that we had for eight years 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: with Genie and Rob. Lincoln considered the Lakers as a 31 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: critical part of his career. We understand the difficulty in 32 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: winning now while preparing for the future. We do want 33 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: to evaluate what's best for Lebron at this stage of 34 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: his life and career. He wants to make every season 35 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: he has left count and the Lakers understand that are 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: supportive of what of want what's best for him. I 37 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: will tell you how that lands with me one word poorly, poorly, 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: And there are lots of different ways to explain why 39 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: it lands poorly, but here's the easiest. You have to 40 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: match up your actions with your words. If Lebron wants 41 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: to win a championship. Well, then why would you opt 42 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: into a deal that pays you fifty three million dollars? 43 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 1: Because ears out really works. If you want to win, 44 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: you know, you got to take less so that you 45 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: can pay more to go out and get guys on 46 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: the free agent market. I mean, and if you want 47 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: to guarantee yourself a big fat paycheck, what you can 48 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: do is you can backload a contract, do it as 49 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: a player only option, and you play a year with 50 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: the Lakers and oh yeah, by the way, if you 51 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out, you want to tire you know, 52 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: you had them by their way out of and opt 53 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: out or whatever, or you go somewhere next year. There's 54 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: a million different things you can do. But you can 55 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: say you're appreciative of Genie and Rob Polinka, your actions 56 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: are far different because if you're really appreciative, why would 57 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: you release the statement. If you really want to win 58 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: a championship, why'd you release the statement? How it lands 59 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: on me is poorly because it feels like the Lakers 60 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: and Lebron has talked about it and he always couches 61 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: it with you. I understand. Now we're building around Luca. 62 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: This is Lebron James and rich Ball pouting and trying 63 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: to exert some sort of leverage that doesn't actually exist. 64 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: This is no different than Lebron when he was leaving Miami, 65 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: when he was leaving Cleveland the second time, leaking out 66 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: there that could be interested in the San Antonio Spurs 67 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: who had no interest in Lebron James. Because you can say, hey, 68 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: we're really appreciative, but the reality is, are you. 69 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: Right? Are you? 70 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: Let me make this clear, over the past year, just 71 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: the past year alone, We'll make it thirteen months a year. 72 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: Is that Okay? Over the past year, the Lakers have 73 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: hired a guy he co hosted a podcast with as 74 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: the head coach of the Lakers, and look, I get it, 75 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: like I'm not that different from the JJ Reddick higher 76 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: but it's the head coach of the Lakers and they 77 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: hired him. 78 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: Okay. 79 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: They also drafted Bronnie James and then all made statements 80 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,559 Speaker 1: like Bronnie had earned the right to be a second 81 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: round pick when that's not even close too accurate. Then 82 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: they played Bronnie the first game of the season and 83 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: throughout times in the NBA season. Well, give me a 84 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: guaranteed four year contract. Despite the fact, he was like, 85 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: what the fifty fifth pick in the NBA draft, So 86 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: the worst thing they did. And then if you predate that, 87 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: they went out and got Anthony Davis. They overpaid for 88 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis. Why he was a rich Paul client. And 89 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: when they struck out the first time round, they went 90 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: back in the offseason and went after him and got him. 91 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 3: Overpaid for him. 92 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: Remember they got Russell Westbrook on the LA Lakers. Why 93 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: they were gonna get Demart Rosen. That was the guy. 94 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: Well documented, Demarta Rosen was going to be the third guy. 95 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: But what happened was Lebron was like, nah, we like 96 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook better. They overplayed for Russell Westbrook, and then 97 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: midway through his first year with the Lakers, Lebron just 98 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: did what Lebron does where he doesn't say anything negative, 99 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: but he just ignores passive, aggressive moves on and ultimately 100 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: they moved off Russell Westbrook. So we overpaid for Anthony Davis, 101 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: we trade for Russell Westbrook, we hire JJ Reddick, we 102 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: draft and play Browny James. All of these things would 103 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: not have happened if not for Lebron wanted none happen. 104 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: There's a million other things. And you have fifty three 105 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: and change million dollars on a contract and you say 106 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: you want to win. And the only thing you say, 107 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: after having the opportunity to opt out of that rework 108 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: your deal have more money for the Lakers to play with, 109 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: is that's great, but we're going to keep our options open. 110 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: That sounds like the least no matter. You can say 111 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: you're grateful, but it's words, it's actions, not words. And 112 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: what you have done and what the Lakers have done 113 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: for you is support you the best way possible. Remember 114 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: of Lebron's seasons with the Lakers, how many of them 115 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: have ended in injury? How many seasons? How many games 116 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: does he played in the regular season? You remember when 117 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: he started playing a ton of games in the regular season. 118 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: That was the year he was going for the all 119 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: times scoring mark. And so if you ask Lebron about Lebron, 120 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: I get he's the most selfish, unselfish guy there is. Yeah, 121 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: he likes to pass the ball, but he likes to 122 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: pass the ball because he wants you to score and 123 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: get the assist and he wants it to be about Lebron. 124 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: His agent tries to make this about Leverage, that they 125 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: don't have Look, if you really want to challenge the 126 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: Lakers to going out and making it achampionship team, Lebron's 127 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: gonna opt out. He's gonna see what the Lakers do. 128 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: He's willing to take less money if their plan makes sense. 129 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: That's not what he says. He says, we're gonna take 130 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: your money and then we're gonna think about what we 131 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: want to do in the future. And what this does 132 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: is it sours so many people on Lebron James when, 133 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: as I've stated previously, in comparison to other star athletes, 134 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: right know, off the court, nonsense, none, zero. But there 135 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: is a transactional nature to how he approaches playing for 136 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: a team. And I've told you guys, since he got 137 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: to LA and throughout this process, you can play. He's 138 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: gonna play eight years in LA. Lebron James plays for 139 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: the Lakers, is not a Laker because what Laker fans 140 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: want and what Laker fans desire is Lebron James wants 141 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: to do one thing before he calls it a career, 142 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: win another championship with the Lakers. And what he said 143 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: is I want to win a championship. I don't think 144 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: we can do it with the Lakers, So why are 145 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: we paying you fifty three million dollars bud? 146 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: Oh? 147 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, By the way, if you don't think Luca is 148 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: good enough, then how did Luca get to the finals 149 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: without you? The whole thing is a massive contradiction and 150 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: a statement of being ungrateful. And there's lots of things 151 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: that turn people off and things that turn people on. 152 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: The number one thing that turns me off in my 153 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,479 Speaker 1: lifetime is people are not grateful. People are not appreciative. 154 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: There are no perfect human beings. Either we see the 155 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: positive things that people bring or we harp on the 156 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: negative things. And if you're appreciative of the positive, it 157 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that the negatives don't exist. But at least 158 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: it gives respect for somebody working through whatever they're working 159 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: through while giving you the best that they have. 160 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 3: I just. 161 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: For a guy that has done so many of the 162 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: right things. This statement is so about the wrong things 163 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: to me, Byer, what do you think of Rich Paul's 164 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: statement and how it lands on you as somebody who's 165 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: not from La Okay, but you know LA sports fans, 166 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: the Lakers, and the sports world at large. 167 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, this topic is so many different ways to tackle it, 168 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: and I am not opposite yours. If you're at noon 169 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 4: or twelve o'clock, I'm maybe at ten o'clock on it. 170 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 4: When I read it, it felt like Rich Paul was 171 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 4: trying to take the narrative away from the Lakers. And 172 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 4: how I read it was prior to the team acquiring 173 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 4: Luka Dancic, it had been all about Lebron stuff that 174 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 4: you laid out, even to the fact of hiring JJ Reddick. Well, 175 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 4: now Luca comes along, and I'm sure the Lakers and 176 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 4: Lebron had discussions about how things are going to go. 177 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 4: But if there was no Luca, why wouldn't Lebron just 178 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 4: sign another one on one deal, get max money for 179 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 4: one hundred and five hundred and six million dollars on 180 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 4: a two year deal and go through this whole charade again. 181 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: And I don't mean charade that it's a farce, but 182 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 4: that's what he did last offseason, had the one and 183 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 4: one which allowed him to have this player option that 184 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 4: he opted into. But to me, it seems like he 185 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: wasn't going to get his fifty million anywhere else and 186 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 4: at least this offseason, and now it allows teams a 187 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 4: year in advance to maybe look at things, and it 188 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 4: allows them a year in advance to plot where they 189 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 4: want to go next. But I just took the statement, Doug, 190 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 4: is them stealing the narrative of the Lakers saying that 191 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 4: they don't need Lebron anymore. And I compared to a marriage, 192 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 4: there are different types of marriages that span the spectrum. 193 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 4: There are those that are madly in love and madly 194 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 4: in love for fifty years. There are marriages that are 195 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 4: made out of convenience. And this was a convenience marriage 196 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 4: between the two sides, and when one didn't need the 197 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 4: other as much as the other, then it breaks away. 198 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 4: And I felt that that's where the Lakers were coming 199 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 4: from and saying, yeah, that one in one deal not 200 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 4: necessarily great for us. We're not interested. So Lebron will 201 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 4: opt in, get his money and then he can figure 202 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 4: out where he's going to play next and have his 203 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 4: farewell to her. 204 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: Then that's how I took this statement. 205 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you bring up the marriage analogy. It's great if 206 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: it's the difference in if you've been married once or 207 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: married three or four times, how you view your wedding 208 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: day right, how you eet your wedding day, sure, you know. 209 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: And if you've been married three times, I mean, I 210 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: don't know this one compares to the other one's wedding 211 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: day whatever. You've been married one time, you're like, I mean, 212 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: it's literally the it's the culminating moment of two lives 213 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: joining together, hopefully forever. M hm, you know, and it's 214 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: it's it's fascinating. So here's a dude who's been with 215 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of different teams and it doesn't mean as 216 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: much to him, there's not the emotional connection to the Lakers. 217 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: But for the Lakers, there's an emotional connection to Lakers. 218 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: Remember the Lakers used to play in Inglewood. Inglewood was 219 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: known as the City of champions. Only one team played 220 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: out in Inglewood. That was the Lakers. The Lakers are 221 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: the team known for championships. So you say, like, do 222 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: you know how offended hardcore Laker fans are. Right, let 223 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: me get this straight. You were our rival and now 224 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: you join us. You're a guy who's bounced to several teams. 225 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: You're replacing Kobe Bryant, who, though there was a time 226 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: he wanted off the team, never played for another team. Right, 227 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: Kobe was about one thing and one thing only, and 228 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: that's winning, killing anybody in his path. Whether he did 229 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: it the right way or not, he did it with 230 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: the intent of winning. And again, always was a Laker. 231 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: So you're replacing Kobe with a guy who was a 232 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: Kobe rival, who's bounced to a bunch of teams, and 233 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: throughout his time in LA he has never really bonded 234 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: with Laker fans and been a Laker for life. I 235 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: never want to go anywhere else. That's what they want 236 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: to hear. I think you nailed it. In terms of Luca. 237 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: I think Luca is now the star. Lebron's a little 238 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: butt hurt over it. Well, you mean I don't get 239 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: to call the shots anymore? Like no, dude, right, wouldn't 240 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: stun me if there was some conversation about Bryce and 241 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: they were like, yeah, the brownny thing, We're good, Sure, 242 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: we're good, We're good. 243 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 4: It's a it seems I don't want to say that, 244 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 4: like a fourle. But there was just so many different 245 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 4: ways that, so many different places you can go with 246 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 4: all of this. 247 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: Look again, I'm going to compare it to my job 248 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: outside of radio in coaching basketball. Like I don't get 249 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: I don't get offended. When a guy they walk in, 250 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: they want to they want to go in the portal. 251 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: They want to go in the portal. But like, hey, 252 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: we helped you with get your move your girl here, 253 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: We helped your family. We helped you get into school, 254 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: stay in school. We gave you everything. We we got 255 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: your thotics, we got you extra massages, we got you 256 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: an IV when you were sick. We you know, we 257 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: had a tutor come and stay. You know, we did this, 258 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: we did that. We blah blah blah blahlah. And you don't. 259 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: You can't have an honest conversation about leaving you just 260 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: your deuces. You're out like that ain't cool, right, That's 261 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: what this is. We overpaid for Anthony Davis. We didn't 262 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: want Russell Westbrook. You did, and then you wanted to 263 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: get rid of Russell Westbrook you wanted. You ran through 264 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: all these coaches you didn't want. Okay, Then we go 265 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: and you want to coach, We go hire JJ Reddick. 266 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: Then we draft Bronnie James. Okay, now I gotta play 267 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: Brian James. We gotta give Bronnie a four year guaranteed contract, 268 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: which nobody gets when you're fifty fifth pick in the 269 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: NBA Draft before playing a game, but he got one, 270 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: Like we did all these things, we went all in 271 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: and you were like, yeah, it's cool, LA's fine, it's 272 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: fun whatever. And part of it is also the calling 273 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: his bluff. They don't think and I don't think he's 274 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: going anywhere else. But if he doesn't do a goodbye 275 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: tour then yet, dB, I think you are right, he'll 276 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: have his goodbye tour somewhere else. 277 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 5: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 278 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 5: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 279 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. 280 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: Stug gott Leap Show, Fox Sports Radio. So if you're 281 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: old enough to remember the nineties, you're old enough to 282 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: remember when the NHL expanded and when NASCAR expanded. Right, 283 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: the NHL used to be U Canada and it did 284 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: have the La Kings. You did have some other teams, 285 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: but they didn't have the Dallas Stars. They didn't have 286 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: the Anaheim Mighty Ducks, now the Ducks, the Atlanta Thrashers, 287 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: poor little liquor for the Atlanta Thrashers, the Phoenix Coyottes 288 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: which are now the Utah Or are they wooly mammoths 289 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: or something. 290 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, mammoth, ye, mammoth. Yeah. 291 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: The point is that in the nineties Wayne Gretzky moved 292 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: to LA and the NHL was on fire. In nineteen 293 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: ninety three, I was at Lake Havasu. Lake Havasu is 294 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: not actually a lake, but regardless is the Colorado River 295 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: where's damned up, but actually lake anyway, And allegedly that's 296 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: old London Bridge that the transported. But I thought London 297 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 1: Bridge was falling down, falling down, falling down. That didn't matter. Okay, 298 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: point is I was on the lake looking good, sun tanned, sunburned. 299 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: Right in high school. Jet skis back with the jet 300 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: skis were like stand up jet skis. They were a 301 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: lot harder back then. Okay, water skiing. This is before 302 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: people wake surfed and everybody got off the lake. Not 303 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: for not for a of a of haboob, which is 304 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: a desert thunderstorm. No, No, it was for the LA 305 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: Kings playing in the Stanley Cup finals. And everywhere Gretzki went, 306 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: arinas were packed, things were celebrated. It was on Sports Center. 307 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: So what did the NHL do. Hey, we're making money, 308 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: let's make more, Let's expand and now they've had to 309 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: move these teams around. It's been a little embarrassing, but 310 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: generally the NHL has found its footing. Well, I take 311 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: you to the WNBA where they want to expand add 312 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: what four teams. This is the WNBA that moved from 313 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: big arenas to smaller arenas that had to have a 314 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: salary cap, and they finally got it all under control 315 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: and they went from just hemorrhaging hemorrhaging money every year 316 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: and losing teams to all right, they'd stabilized. It's still 317 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: lost like forty to fifty million last year as a league, 318 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: but generally things are peaking up because of Caitlin Clark. 319 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: I just I don't see it. I don't see the 320 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: expansion four teams make it so all fourteen teams are thriving. 321 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: Less is more packed arenas because what they're gonna do, 322 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: and like, look, whoever buys a franchise is gonna have 323 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: to throw in a bunch of money. That money will 324 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: be spread around, So these owners that have been losing 325 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: money are finally gonna have some money in their pockets. 326 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: But the game will become more watered down, more water 327 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: down means, and are there other good women's professional players. Yeah, 328 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: but you know what they also are. They're also foreign born, 329 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: which means you're gonna have no different than the NBA. 330 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: You have more foreign players, which are harder to relate to, 331 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: harder to buy into, don't draw nearly as many people, 332 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: and they're not named Kaitlin Clark. Okay, I'm not telling 333 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: you that the WNBA can't start to go. Hey, we 334 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: got some we got some leverags. Let's get better and 335 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: better deals. We got some people watching. Okay, but you 336 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: got to build around Kaitlin Clark. And the second you 337 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: water it down, maybe you make Caitlin Clark into a 338 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: bigger start because she's going against lesser competition. But more 339 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: likely there's just more teams that people don't want to watch. 340 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: That's that. I got leeb show here on Fox Sports Radio. 341 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: We got a bunch to talk about with Rick Buker. 342 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: He joins us every Monday. He knows all things NBA. 343 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: He works for Fox Sports one. You can just work 344 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: at Fox sports dot com. Let me start with Lebron 345 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 1: and the Lakers, right, So, let me get this straight. 346 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: He wants to win a championship. He's going to opt 347 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: into a deal that pays him fifty three million dollars, 348 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: but he wants to win a championship. And it feels 349 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: like that statement made by Rich Paul is saying we 350 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: can only win a championship elsewhere. How does it land 351 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: with you? 352 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 6: It lands yes, well, I agree with your the the contradiction, 353 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 6: and I just look at it as trying to maintain 354 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 6: leverage for what that leverage may be with the Lakers 355 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 6: or elsewhere. I think it's more appearance sake, Like if 356 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 6: if you present it as Lebron still wants to win 357 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 6: championships and he's looking for how can he still win championships? 358 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 6: And it takes the focus off what you just said, 359 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 6: which is and the question that most people would have, 360 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 6: which is, well, if you want to win championships, how 361 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 6: can you opt into a contract that is going to 362 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 6: pay you more than your worth at least on the 363 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 6: court right now. We can get into the box office 364 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 6: and the draw and all that, but as far as 365 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 6: championships are concerned, if that's first and foremost your priority, 366 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 6: then opting into that contract should not have been the priority. 367 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 6: And I don't know that it's anything more than just 368 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 6: trying to maintain this perspective that the problem with whatever 369 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 6: whatever problem the Lakers have, Lebron is not the problem. 370 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 6: It's that they don't have enough around him. And I 371 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 6: think that that at this stage, combined with Luka Doncic 372 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 6: and Austin Reeves, the way they're currently constructed, it's just 373 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 6: a fallacy. Lebron has a hand in what they have done, 374 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 6: both good and bad, over the last couple of years, 375 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 6: and he's going to be a year older, so I 376 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 6: just I think this is trying to skew perception so 377 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 6: that Lebron doesn't look like he's the one holding things back. 378 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: Do you think that will work? 379 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 2: No? 380 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 6: I think I think now as the Lakers one, now 381 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 6: that they have their guy in Luca Dogs the guys 382 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 6: that they're building around going forward, I don't they didn't 383 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 6: have much choice. This was this was Lebron's option to 384 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 6: opt into this contract, and I don't know that they 385 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 6: really care all that much what happens a year from now. 386 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 6: If it's the money comes off that he's getting paid, 387 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 6: then I think that they will They will take that. 388 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 6: It's about the best case scenario right now, because you're 389 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 6: not going to trade him. There is no value in 390 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 6: trading Lebron James matching the contract any place that he 391 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 6: would go would be giving up way too many pieces 392 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 6: for a guy who's going to be a free agent 393 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 6: next year. And I'm sure is giving no assurances to 394 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 6: anyone that he's going to stay longer as if you 395 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 6: would want to do that. I mean, that's just the 396 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 6: hard reality is. And I think I saw someone else 397 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 6: reference Bobby Marks might have referenced like, you know, if 398 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 6: he's a free agent, you got twenty nine teams coming 399 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 6: after him. I'm not sure that that's the case at 400 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 6: this stage. I think there are teams that are like, 401 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 6: you know what, we've got our plan, we're moving on. 402 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 6: Would love to have him. 403 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: I don't even know if you you know, you could get. 404 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 6: Him at a minimum contract. Lebron just comes with a 405 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 6: lot of other things, and so I think there's there 406 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 6: would be a market, but I don't know that it 407 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:57,239 Speaker 6: would be a bonanza, you know. 408 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: I we'll talk about a little bit. We talked about 409 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: Alow in the podcast, but I just feel it lands 410 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: on me as so ungrateful. 411 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 3: It just does. 412 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: And here's what I mean. It's like you said, like 413 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: if you if you want to win a championship. Okay, 414 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: opt out, sign a two year deal, backload the deal 415 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: to it it's a player option or a team option 416 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: or whatever, and take less this year, try and win 417 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: and then if you don't like it. I mean, if 418 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: it's about money, you go make money next year or 419 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: somewhere else. But hold on, dude, we hired the coach 420 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: who you did a podcast with. We drafted your son, 421 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: We guaranteed your son four years. We played him, yeah, 422 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: his first game when he should have been nowhere near 423 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: the NBA. We've we have been over backwards. We traded 424 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: for Anthony Davis, gave up the kitchen, saying not because 425 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: we didn't want Anthony Davis, but because you want to happen. 426 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, this is a it's a power play, 427 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: but it's a little bit of pouting of what do 428 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: you mean you've moved on to Luca. We're the guy here, 429 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: and I just I feel like it feels ungrateful. And 430 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: Jays two said, we've talked about this all the time. 431 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: I know he's played for the Lakers for seven years, 432 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: but especially with this and if he goes and plays 433 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 1: somewhere else at the end of next year, even if 434 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: it's Cleveland. He's not going to be seen as a 435 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: Laker by Laker fans. 436 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 6: Right, Well, I'm surprised at your surprise because I just 437 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 6: looked through that. I mean, when you've always been accommodated, 438 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 6: as Lebron has always accommodated. This has always worked. And 439 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 6: I don't know that he has demonstrated a great deal 440 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 6: of gratitude in any case. He has approached as if 441 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 6: it is his birth right to get these things and 442 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 6: to be treated a certain way. I mean, like, I 443 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 6: still you know the way he left Miami. He goes 444 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 6: to Miami, he gets over the hump, and he didn't 445 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 6: give Pat a heads up, like Pat didn't know it 446 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 6: was coming when it was coming, and uh, and the 447 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 6: same thing in Cleveland when he left there the first time, 448 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 6: it was like at the last second, Rich Paul called 449 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 6: the Calves and said, hey, yeah, well you know, we're 450 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 6: not We're not, We're leaving. And it puts them at 451 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 6: an incredible disadvantage. So I I guess I just take 452 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 6: it for granted that that's the way that he's going 453 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 6: to operate. But I agree with you, I certainly think 454 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 6: that this puts it puts far more stress on the 455 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 6: on the Los Angeles Lakers, than I would think it's necessary. 456 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: Let's let's move away around the lake here, Joannison Tuta Koopa. 457 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: Where are he in the Bucks? 458 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 6: I mean, I honestly, I think he's he is observing 459 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 6: what they are and aren't doing. He wants to know 460 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 6: that they're still trying to make the team better. He 461 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 6: wants to know that there's a plan there. But this 462 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 6: idea that you know, he's he's got one foot off 463 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 6: the door. I just haven't gotten any indication of that. 464 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 6: I think that's wishful thinking. If something dramatic happens where 465 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 6: the Bucks, like I think the Bucks would have to 466 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 6: tell him definitively, you know what, we can't get to 467 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 6: where you want us to get to in short order. 468 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 6: And I don't see them doing that so And I 469 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 6: also don't expect that, like if they're not a championship 470 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 6: contender out of the gate next year, that he's going 471 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 6: to change his mind and say I need to be elsewhere. 472 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 6: I don't get any any indication that he is so 473 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 6: thirsty for sort of on the Lebron James model of 474 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 6: I'm supposed to be playing for a championship every year 475 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 6: and if not, then I'm going to hold it over 476 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 6: your head. I do not get that from you, honest 477 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 6: And if he and if he did do that, it 478 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 6: would be the first time that a international player failed. 479 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 6: He did hold their feet to the fire to get 480 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 6: Damian Lillard's and I think that, unlike a lot of guys, 481 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 6: he recognized, you know what, I had a part in that, 482 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 6: and I might have been wrong about I don't know 483 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 6: how that turned out. And so now he's allowing the 484 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 6: Milwaukee Bucks to do their jobs, and I commend him 485 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 6: for all of that. I'm I am. I will be 486 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 6: thrilled if if my expectation comes comes true, which is 487 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 6: that he's going to stay in Milwaukee because he's won parcel. 488 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 6: He's the reason, at least partly the reason why they 489 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 6: are where they are. 490 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: And to me, if he wins another ring there, or 491 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 2: he chases another ring and he gets them close or 492 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: wins one, that will be more than going someplace else 493 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: with absolutely no guarantee. 494 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 6: That he's going to the second one. 495 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: The probably most interesting thing that happened at the draft 496 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: was the Ace Bailey deal. Yeah, what are your thoughts 497 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: on how that ended up? 498 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 6: Well, that's a classic, whether it's Danny or Austin that 499 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 6: told the trigger it's an it's an age trademark to say, hey, 500 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 6: I'm going to do what's best and I'm not going 501 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 6: to get let feelings or someone's feelings dictate to me 502 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 6: what we do here. But I think the whole thing 503 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 6: was it doesn't leave me with a good feeling about 504 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 6: Ace Bailey or his representation because while I think he's 505 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 6: extremely talented, the idea that he would prefer going to 506 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 6: the Washington Wizards over the Utah Jazz, I just look 507 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 6: at those two organizations. I go, then, you're not about 508 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 6: what equality, how a quality franchises run like it's about 509 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 6: something else. It's about your roles. And I don't know 510 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 6: that you're good enough to be worried about your role. 511 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 6: I think I might have tweeted it out there that 512 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 6: it gives me cam reddish vibes where supremely, supremely talented 513 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 6: but worried about all the wrong things. And when he's 514 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 6: up there and saying, hey, I don't worry about this. 515 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 6: My team takes care of that and I'm about basketball, 516 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 6: I'm like that gave me the Jay Williams talking about 517 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 6: his brand after he was drafted by the Chicago Bulls 518 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 6: before wrapping a motorcycle around a telephone pole. Dude, the 519 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 6: NBA is hard to be successful in and there is 520 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 6: a handful of guys who come along and are so 521 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 6: so talented. No matter where they go, no matter what 522 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 6: they do, they are going to be a success. And 523 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 6: even those like a Victor Wembinyama, you know, the chances 524 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 6: are better that he's going to fulfill his potential because 525 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 6: of his combination of confidence and humility. So I just 526 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 6: I understand why Utah did it. I think they saw 527 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 6: an asset, they believe that the kid might grow up, 528 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 6: didn't see a better option for where they were picking 529 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 6: and where they're what their timeline is. But I you know, 530 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 6: I'm color me a skeptic of Bailey right now based 531 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 6: on what I've seen. 532 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: He's Rick Buker. He's never short of opinions, but they're 533 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: based on over twenty years of covering the NBA. The 534 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: guy's the best. Buke Thanks so much for joining us. 535 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: We really appreciate it my pleasure. 536 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 5: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 537 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 5: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 538 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: It's Doug gotlig Showbotch Sports Radio every day the time. 539 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: Maternal Dan Byron say, Hey Dan, let's play a game. 540 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 5: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 541 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: What's up Dan? What you got Bud? Doug? 542 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 3: The game today? 543 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 5: Is big deal, little deal, no deal? 544 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 3: All right? 545 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 4: Big deal, little deal or no deal that the Pittsburgh 546 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 4: Steelers seemed to be loading up for twenty twenty five. 547 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: I think it's a big deal. It's a big deal. 548 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: I think I think Mike Tomlin knows, like, hey, being 549 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: above five hundred or you know, is not enough, and 550 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: you know, they feel like Aaron's got enough in the 551 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: tank for one year, so we'll take a couple of 552 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: short term deals. I think it's a big deal because 553 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: it's not how the Steelers have generally done business. 554 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 3: Correct. 555 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 4: I agree with you, and especially too because of what 556 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 4: could happen on the other side is could there actually 557 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 4: be a teardown in Pittsburgh? Sure just doesn't work out? Sure, 558 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 4: all right, Doug? Big deal, little deal or no deal? 559 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 4: That the Athletics says the Bulls and Warriors are the 560 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 4: most likely destinations for or excuse me, the Bulls and 561 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 4: Heat are the most likely destinations for Warriors forward Jonathan Kaminga, 562 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 4: who's a restricted free agent. 563 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: Little deal. You know, again, there's something missing there that 564 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr couldn't buy into to play him more until 565 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: late in the year. And again doesn't mean the Steve 566 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: Kerr is right about everything, but he probably knows him 567 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: best because he's seen him since he first got in 568 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: the league. I'm gonna say little deal. 569 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 4: Big deal, little deal or no deal that Caitlin Clark 570 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 4: is injured again, dealing with a groin issue. Now her 571 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 4: status for tomorrow's game against the Links up in the air. 572 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a big deal. She's the entire league 573 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: in terms of what we pay attention to, and she'd 574 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: been struggling with her shooting, so you know, shot fieldal 575 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: percentage is way down, especially three point percentage, So it's 576 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: a it's a big deal when the marquee star is 577 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: instead being filled in by the understudy. 578 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 4: For any any questions on could she be injury prone? 579 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 4: Is this just one of those years where maybe just 580 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 4: something's catch up to you. Did the quad injury does 581 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 4: that force the groin injury? 582 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know enough. Is it the same 583 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: leg Is it all related? Probably all related, right, You're 584 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: overcompensating for one and then ee bones connected to the 585 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: hip bone, hip bones connected. 586 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 3: To the right. 587 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, but she was also playing really well in the 588 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,439 Speaker 1: ear and started to start to struggle again. I don't 589 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: know enough. I just know that I don't question people 590 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: who are hoopers about their injuries. I think that's a bad, 591 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: bad look. I'm not questioning her. I just I think 592 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: it's bad for the league because they have some momentum 593 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: right now, there's nothing else on, but people only want 594 00:35:58,880 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: to watch Caitlin. 595 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 3: Play big deal, little deal or no deal. 596 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 4: At Ohio State in Virginia will play a non conference 597 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 4: game in men's college hoops on Valentine's Day, smack dab 598 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 4: in the middle of usually big ten and acc play. 599 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: I love it. Look, the downside is and we do this, 600 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: we play conference games before Christmas, right. The downside is 601 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: that you do you have these bye weeks or bye weekends. 602 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: The upside is you can still play intersectional matches, matchups. 603 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: So I think it's a little deal because it's happened before, 604 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: it'll be a big deal, becomes a trend and lots 605 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: of people are doing it. 606 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 4: All right, finally, Doug, big deal, little deal or no deal? 607 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 4: That Wimbledon started today is a big deal to you. 608 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 4: Little deal. 609 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: There's just I think little deal. I think little deal. 610 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: Did I see that Carlos escape from Alcarez? Thank you? 611 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 1: Do you like that Jays did. 612 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 2: Right? 613 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 3: Yes, it's one of my favorite days in sports. 614 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 4: I usually tweet about it, but when the grass is 615 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 4: all full, because at the end of the two weeks 616 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 4: there's it's just worn out on the baseline. 617 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I agree, I agree. 618 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 7: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. What 619 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 7: you love from the weekend? 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