00:00:08 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, you're o presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how did you dare to surbey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gift south a podcast where I haven't received a boat, I haven't gotten a new car. I'm not getting any of these things that I'm kind of dreaming of yet I'm bridge of wininger. Why am I starting a podcast this way? There's never any telling how I'm going to start the podcast, and we're going to avoid talking about flooding or rain. It is going to rain tomorrow. That may be driving some of my anxiety as my home just continues to flood and flood and flood. Let's let's get into the podcast. Today's guest is so wonderful. It's Alison Rosen. Alice, So welcome to, I said, Nokia. 00:01:27 Speaker 3: I'm so excited to be here. I campaigned to be a guest. I all but stalked you. I made little passive aggressive jokes. I think I said that I was in your bushes outside waiting for my formal invitation. I grinded a ground. You've got to put it in the household. 00:01:49 Speaker 4: That's right. 00:01:49 Speaker 3: I was a boss, girl, babe, girl, boss, bitch. I don't know what I was all those things and here I am and it has come true. And you mentioned not talking about flooding. And there's a fountain that is it's very it's nice, and it's serene. But I'm wondering, is it making you nervous. 00:02:09 Speaker 2: The sound of any water at this point? I am not kidding. I'm not exaggerating. 00:02:13 Speaker 4: I haven't showered in I smell horrible. 00:02:16 Speaker 2: I'm covered in grease. No. Really, when it begins rating, my body is just as tense until it stops. 00:02:23 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:02:24 Speaker 2: I go to bed at night just thinking, well, the water is going to be coming, and there's nothing I can do. Just try to get some level of rest because the anxiety will begin the moment you wake up. 00:02:34 Speaker 3: I mean, you are in sort of a hilly part. I don't want to give away your exact coordinate. 00:02:37 Speaker 2: No, we can name the street, we can name the street number, whatever we want. 00:02:41 Speaker 3: You are in a hilly should we name the Thomas Guide? 00:02:47 Speaker 2: Thomas guides folks, So heading east. 00:02:51 Speaker 3: Page eighty nine, L five. You are like, is your house gonna roll down the street? What happens the waters. 00:02:58 Speaker 2: The house to roll down the street at this point? Like what I mean? That would may be the only solution is for it to just completely collapse, right because I mean, we've tried three sides of the place that are flooding. There's one remaining wall that I must be the problem. Of course, the guy that's supposed to be fixing it, was supposed to be here yesterday, did not show. He washed away, I hope. So there's got to be a good excuse there, because I've had he may show up mid podcast. Just prepare yourself for a bonus guest. 00:03:27 Speaker 4: I love it. 00:03:29 Speaker 2: A cameo, a cameo, and then there'll be me running around with him telling him my theories of flooding. I've been digging. I've been putting my hands through all sorts of dirt looking for holes in the house. I've become a little detective your house. You have kind of a back thing. I'm so sorry to the listener. We talk about rain all the time, but I'm curious about your rain. 00:03:51 Speaker 4: Is my termites? 00:03:53 Speaker 2: Tell me about your termites? Okay, my mind off of one. 00:03:58 Speaker 3: I love it because my liststeners are tired of hearing about termites, So now your listeners can grow tired. 00:04:05 Speaker 2: Being destroyed. 00:04:07 Speaker 3: I know this is a very California. It's a very California twenty twenty three situation podcast Cliff of the End of the World exaggeration exactly. 00:04:17 Speaker 4: It's pre apocalyptic. 00:04:19 Speaker 3: Okay, so maybe two to three years ago I saw termite. 00:04:25 Speaker 4: Have you ever had termites? 00:04:26 Speaker 2: No, I mean that that'll be next Let's be honest. Probably they're just waiting for the to dry out and then they're going to move in. 00:04:34 Speaker 3: So the way you know you have termites, or at least I believe drywood termites, I too, have become a bit of a detective. Is you see tiny it almost looks like pepper, but tiny little pieces of wood, which is termite poop, which sounds gross, but it's really they just like eat wood and then poop it out, so it's tiny. 00:04:51 Speaker 4: Little bits of wood. 00:04:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't have to be black, like, if they're eating wood that is painted black, then it'll be black. If they're eating white wood, it'll be white. 00:04:59 Speaker 2: It's just kind of a fun. 00:05:00 Speaker 3: Tiny, tiny tenC tiny little pellets of tiny though, so I saw that in my studio, which is what you were referring to, like a little back house which I uses my podcast studio at our. It's not a bad back house. Makes it sound like majestic and like a guest house. 00:05:15 Speaker 2: It's like it's got at least ten bedrooms, be honest. 00:05:18 Speaker 3: Right, it does take up two zip codes, but I'm telling you it's humble. It's a humble abode situation. So it does have a ten car garage. 00:05:29 Speaker 2: The only thing that says it apart is its separate pool, you know, right, average home. 00:05:35 Speaker 3: Right, So anyway, I saw that and we called someone out and they're like, yeah, you you do need a tent for termites. And it's going to be thousands upon thous and even though I do have a ten car garage, multiple swimming pools, multiple zip codes, it's time to tighten the belt. And I said, I'm not gonna. I don't want to spend thousands of dollars. But also it's the inconvenience. 00:05:57 Speaker 2: Of course of you have to leave. You have to leave even your own home. 00:06:01 Speaker 3: You have to leave your own yes, right, Because they're like, we can't guarantee that gas or whatever they use from We can't guarantee the cyclon B from the back studio isn't going to like sneak into your house, right, But I I am questioning this thing of like they can't guarantee that it won't like sneak in through your electrical lines. 00:06:23 Speaker 4: I don't know. 00:06:24 Speaker 3: So anyway, you have to leave and then but you also have to like leave your house so the people get in. It just seems very daunting. And you also have to like get rid of or tie up all your food, all your toiletries, all your I mean, it's it's like moving this I should just move. So I said, this is insane. I'm going to solve this problem myself, and I just sprayed insecticide in like in various spots, and then the problem went away. 00:06:53 Speaker 2: It went away. You did solve the problem, well. 00:06:55 Speaker 4: For a while. 00:06:56 Speaker 2: I did. How long a couple of years? Oh wow, that's a year. I mean maybe speaking of side hustles, that was an extermination. 00:07:05 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean that was the tenor of my over discussing it on the podcast. Was me just heralding my do it myself, miss because they said you can't do it yourself and not. I sure did, and then the problem was gone. I was documenting various other insects I would occasionally see, had a bit of a millipede problem that confused everyone. 00:07:28 Speaker 4: It turned out I had received a tree. Talk about saying no gifts. 00:07:34 Speaker 3: That's right, I had received a millip I should have been I should have realized when they said here's a millipede tree that that might be the source of them. 00:07:42 Speaker 2: So anyway, what does a millipede I meaned. 00:07:47 Speaker 3: Is like it's like the length of like half of your pinky, and it's like a tiny little worm. 00:07:53 Speaker 2: Bigger than a centipede or smaller. 00:07:56 Speaker 3: It's narrower because wait, a centipede is like a worm with a bunch of little legs. 00:08:01 Speaker 2: Got all the legs, and apparently they can bite. Can they bite? I don't know. I've never been bitten by one a millipede. 00:08:07 Speaker 3: It's really like inoffensive in terms of things you'd find. But I just was freaked out by finding them in my bathroom. I mean it really traveled far from the tree. 00:08:17 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:08:18 Speaker 3: So anyway, long story short, flash forward to I don't know six months ago, when I still have done nothing about it. But not only was I finding termite poop, but actual termites, and that means you're like moments away from your house falling down on you. 00:08:33 Speaker 2: I don't know what boy. 00:08:34 Speaker 3: And there were a lot of people, including a listener who's an exterminator, who are like, I told you, so you cannot tackle this yourself. 00:08:40 Speaker 2: We love an expert listener, you know, when the listener is offering their advice, and there I. 00:08:46 Speaker 3: Should have listened to them, is the thing. I should have listened. So now we really need to take care of it. But I'm like waiting until we're just going to take a vacation or something instead of I cannot bring myself to leave. 00:08:59 Speaker 4: The house to save the house. 00:09:01 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no, it's just too especially, I mean, what really is the worst case scenario? I mean, how long can they go for before the house is actually destroyed? 00:09:09 Speaker 3: I mean, in the course of my research into termites, I did learn that like they can destroy or eat through this much cubic feet of wood in like years. 00:09:21 Speaker 2: Though. 00:09:21 Speaker 4: I mean, it's a slow moving problem. 00:09:23 Speaker 3: It's like someone saying and apologies because it's probably offensive. It's like someone saying you have cancer, but don't worry. It's a really slow moving one right, and then you, if you're me, are like, great, I will stick my hand head in the sand and I'll wait until i'm yes exactly. So I think what happens is eventually it they do so much structural damage that just tenting won't solve the problem. 00:09:49 Speaker 2: I don't really building. I mean, could you? Is it an option to just go to home depot and buy some wood and take it back there and say, boys take care of it and just feed them? Is that not? 00:10:00 Speaker 4: Why had I not considered that? I think that I do not considered that. 00:10:03 Speaker 2: Right. 00:10:03 Speaker 3: It's like getting a scratching post for a cat exactly, an eating two by four for the termites, right, because they're eating old. 00:10:13 Speaker 2: Wood, fresh fresh off the block. 00:10:16 Speaker 3: We should also find out, like what else they like? We have drafted you into my problem. 00:10:21 Speaker 2: I'm happy to jump in off. 00:10:23 Speaker 3: With tupperware and we'll put it under your your drips or whatever, and then you can tell me what you flect. 00:10:30 Speaker 4: Should we get a salt lick? 00:10:31 Speaker 3: What do they like? Oh? 00:10:32 Speaker 2: Salt makes sense? I mean, are dear the only thing that like a salt lick? 00:10:36 Speaker 4: Rabbits? 00:10:37 Speaker 2: Rabbits like salt lick? 00:10:38 Speaker 4: Yes, I had a pet rabbit, and we gave it a little spool of. 00:10:40 Speaker 2: Oh that's so it would just sit there and lick at it. Yeah, I feel like I could get into a salt lick. 00:10:46 Speaker 3: I love salt, yes, although it's not very yes andy of me, but I feel like, yes, everyone loves salt. But just a straight up salt lick. Doesn't that sound a little much? 00:11:00 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm snacking by the TV. I've got my salt lick. 00:11:04 Speaker 4: You need some other things. 00:11:05 Speaker 2: I've got a sweet drink with RTE exactly. But it seems like a nice evening wind down, just you and your salt lick. 00:11:13 Speaker 3: What if you had you know, remember fun dip which had that lick a stick? Of course, what if you had something like that but it was a So you have your. 00:11:20 Speaker 2: Sweet oh I like, I like for this is and then you. 00:11:24 Speaker 3: Have your salt lick that you're dipping into like guacamole. 00:11:27 Speaker 4: Oh interestala. 00:11:29 Speaker 2: Now what I thought you were going to propose is you had a little stick and then a bag of salt, which you would dip the stick into it then lick the salt off. 00:11:36 Speaker 3: Of That is an even better idea. 00:11:40 Speaker 2: Great for blood pressure and the sort of thing Yes, that little stick they would give you in the what is it called the liquor fun dip. That thing tasted terrible. The actual stick was like a root beer flavor something. It made no sense with the thing they were giving I. 00:11:56 Speaker 3: Thought it was like just almost like unflavored sugar stick that didn't taste very good. 00:12:02 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they gave it a flavor. And it looked like a piece of chalk. Yes, speaking of chalk and bugs, have you ever used the magic ant chalk to take care of ants? 00:12:13 Speaker 5: No? 00:12:13 Speaker 3: But I have a real fear of ants. Tell me everything, please. 00:12:17 Speaker 2: Well, it's essentially illegal, so that's the first thing you need to know. You kind of have to go to like plant stores or whatever, and almost whisper to the person at the cash register, do you have any magic ant chalk? 00:12:30 Speaker 4: Like exchanging an egg in nine two one? 00:12:32 Speaker 1: Oh? 00:12:33 Speaker 2: Wait? Exchanging? 00:12:34 Speaker 3: Oh do you not know about this? 00:12:35 Speaker 2: Okay? 00:12:37 Speaker 3: Sorry, I want to get back to the magic ant chalk though, because it's more important. Okay, but I will risk some kind of criminal charge being brought against me to have some kind of chalk that works on my greatest foe ants. So did you watch nine A two one oh? No, okay, but you're aware of it. 00:12:52 Speaker 2: I'm fully aware. 00:12:53 Speaker 3: There was an episode where they were going to a rave, okay, and the drug at the rave was euphoria, which you and I know as ecstasy or E. But anyway, in order to get directions to the rave, you had to go to, I believe, a convenience store and exchange an egg that was like the code. 00:13:12 Speaker 2: I wonder if that was based on some real life event or if the nine oh two to one zero writers just went rogue. 00:13:19 Speaker 3: Well, I was a cool kid who never ever went to a rave, and by that I mean I was a real big dork. But I flirted with the idea of going to them because I had a friend, Jodie, who was She was so cool that she left school because she got pregnant and went to like Finish and an Alternatives. 00:13:41 Speaker 2: Like she was too she was doing it all. 00:13:42 Speaker 3: She was too cool for regular public school. And she had a boyfriend who promoted raves. That's how cool she was. She's the coolest she really was. 00:13:50 Speaker 2: Jody is really a name of the cool friend who goes to a rave. 00:13:53 Speaker 4: Of course. 00:13:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, but anyway, she and I would sometimes help her cool boyfriend pass out flyers, and in this I mean there was this is pre internet, so you would just like go to where a concert was and then walk around the parking lot putting Rave flyers under the wind show wiper. I later played in a band and I hated flying, and I was like, I refuse to believe this makes any difference whatsoever at all. Uh, But at this point I just wanted to be near the cool stuff. So and in my mind, every time I say cool. 00:14:25 Speaker 2: It's k E W L of course on the same page with you. 00:14:29 Speaker 3: So I like knew of Raves and things, and I like found out about them, and I knew that if you do ecstasy. 00:14:34 Speaker 4: Your back could hurt the next day. 00:14:36 Speaker 3: And I was trying to come up with, like, what's my story because my parents would not have been down with any part of this, so I had to cope with a cover story. But then I just ultimately was too afraid. But I do think the deal with Raves was even though we were putting the oh no, you know what, sorry, we were putting the flyer that had the like rave graphic and the info, but there was a phone number you would call to get the directions to go. 00:14:59 Speaker 2: To payphone or something I don't know, a mysterious phone number. 00:15:04 Speaker 3: Yes, so I think there was some skullduggery that had to happen to get the address of it because it was an illegal, illegal thing. 00:15:12 Speaker 2: I love this. 00:15:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, so exchanging an egg is kind of potentially true ish. 00:15:17 Speaker 2: Right, and so whimsical, isn't it. The Internet has ruined mystery. It has taken all of this thrill. You're getting a piece of paper on your windshield and suddenly you're in the middle of a warehouse. 00:15:28 Speaker 3: I mean, back in the day, if you met someone, you couldn't find out everything about that. 00:15:33 Speaker 2: No, and you may never see them again. 00:15:35 Speaker 4: No, it's a true misconnection. Yes, so will you tell me about this. 00:15:39 Speaker 2: An It's incredible. We had ants, you know, in the yard, a few in the house. You get the ant shock, you mark just a small line where they are. They become immediately confused as to where they are. That it breaks up the line of ants and they kind of just vanish. They don't know where to go because I think they rely on sense of small Well probably. 00:16:01 Speaker 4: Yes, there's some kind of chemical communication, right. 00:16:03 Speaker 2: And this totally devastates that which sounds terrible but answer terrible. Yeah, it's a pist. What are we talking about. It's a horrible little bug. But you put it, they disappear forever, they go away. They just say, this is not our place, This isn't where we can be productive. 00:16:20 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 00:16:21 Speaker 2: It really feels like magic. 00:16:22 Speaker 3: But why is it illegal? 00:16:24 Speaker 2: Well? Probably because it's giving me cancer? 00:16:27 Speaker 3: Wow, along with the other slow growing cancer you have. 00:16:29 Speaker 2: Yes, I really, I mean it must have some horrible chemical in it. 00:16:35 Speaker 3: I think it's not an insecticide. It's somehow worse. 00:16:39 Speaker 2: It's probably worse. I mean, now that we're saying it, I mean maybe listeners gonna are going to write in screaming. I mean, you've got to stop it. I do use gloves while you using. 00:16:50 Speaker 4: You have of this. 00:16:51 Speaker 2: It's gone now. And I tried to go back to get more and the person store. 00:16:56 Speaker 4: The store was gone. 00:16:58 Speaker 2: The building didn't exist. It was an empty lot on alease. 00:17:05 Speaker 5: I did find some information about please. It does say while the active ingredients are legal in the United States, the chalk itself is not legal there. Labeling often falsely claims the chalk is harmless to human beings and animals and safe to use, but chalks have been found to cause serious health problems and death. 00:17:24 Speaker 4: So you understand why I had interrupt you. 00:17:26 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't want you to die. 00:17:28 Speaker 4: Wait, death in humans? 00:17:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that must be like through eating it, right, you put it accidentally, put it in the fun dip or I can't imagine, just like a little pinch of it. I mean, I'm living here. Look, I'm here. I'm here to say, unless you swallow it, go for it. I mean, I'd rather die than have ants in my home. 00:17:50 Speaker 4: I have met so many people because I do. 00:17:53 Speaker 3: I have a problem with talking about insects like in life and on my show because and it's a problem because no one wants to hear about it, and so I brought it to your show. 00:18:02 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. 00:18:03 Speaker 2: Now it makes for great audio. 00:18:06 Speaker 3: I mean I think so because I become undone when I see a couple of ants in my kitchen. I have like tried to institute a like you guys, and no one eats food in the kitchen anymore because the ants are they're smelling it and they're coming. And then that doesn't go over well because it's like, well, but the kitchen is where you prepare food. 00:18:29 Speaker 4: We need to. 00:18:31 Speaker 2: Making food in the bedroom. 00:18:32 Speaker 4: Oh, my God, exactly. 00:18:35 Speaker 3: So, yeah, I see a couple of ants, and I just can become completely undone because I don't I don't exactly know why. I feel like I'm being invaded. I'm worried they're gonna like climb up my butt when I'm asleep, and I assume that must be what I'm afraid of. 00:18:48 Speaker 2: That's where they're headed. 00:18:49 Speaker 4: I think. 00:18:49 Speaker 2: So that's that's a five year plan for an ant. 00:18:53 Speaker 3: At least they have goals. So I've I've heard so many people who are like, I mean, sure I don't like them, but like it's not a huge deal. 00:19:02 Speaker 4: I'm like, what is that? 00:19:03 Speaker 1: Like? 00:19:04 Speaker 3: I cannot imagine being that sanguine about it? 00:19:06 Speaker 2: And so do you think that's kind of your number one fear? 00:19:09 Speaker 3: Well, okay, it's funny you say this because I was listening to your episode with Betsy Siddaro, whom I love, and you were talking about fear of clowns. How there's three kinds of people. People who are genuinely afraid, yes, people who are not at all afraid, and then the people who claim to be afraid for clout for clout. 00:19:29 Speaker 4: And it made me do some soul searching because I are you. 00:19:32 Speaker 3: I mean, what's the point of of you know, what am I preserving anymore? I'm going to tell you. Upon hearing that, I was like, oh my god, I think I might be the third I think I might be a big fat phony. 00:19:47 Speaker 2: Well at least you're claiming it, you know. 00:19:49 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well I and I've never consciously been like I'm gonna go in there and I'm gonna tell them I'm afraid of clowns and then reap the rewards. 00:19:57 Speaker 4: I've never done it like that. 00:19:58 Speaker 3: But the thing is, when I was a kid, I was genuinely afraid. For my sixth birthday, my mom decided to surprise me. And I have a six year old. It's like a terrible age to do any sort. 00:20:08 Speaker 2: Of secy everything, Santa Claus everything. 00:20:11 Speaker 3: Normally, my husband picks up my son from school, but yesterday I was with him, so I went in to pick him up, and my son almost cried in the car because he didn't want me to pick him up anymore because he was expecting. 00:20:23 Speaker 2: Daddy's six years old. 00:20:24 Speaker 3: That's how much they like things to be as expected. So six years old, it's my birthday party. I'm excited, and then suddenly this freak with yarn hair make up in big floppy shoes named Jojo is in our house and we have pictures of like Jojo doing his little clown show for the kids who are seated, And I'm in the corner with this tears going now face. So I do not like clowns. I don't like that you can't really tell, like if they mean you harm, They're just I find them scary in general, and I've carried that with me. However, if I were to it to really think about it, am I truly afraid of a clown right now? As long as it's not like a clown with a knife who's trying to hurt me. No, Like, if there's a clown you guys mentioned, but if there was a clown in the backyard. Again, it'd be scary if anyone was just in the backyard, right But if there was a clown, I think I would catch myself, you know, I'd be like, what the fuck? Oh? Okay, So I don't know that I'm really afraid anymore. 00:21:30 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm glad you're owning up to that. I mean, if you woke up in the middle of the night and there's a clown on the ceiling. I would, of course I would. 00:21:36 Speaker 3: Be really afraid. 00:21:37 Speaker 4: But if there was anyone on the. 00:21:38 Speaker 2: Seil, what are you doing up there? 00:21:41 Speaker 3: Yes, what are you staying up there? Is it through some kind of sticky pads like insects have. But another thing, I also have always thought that I was afraid of mice because when I lived in New York, we had a little mouse problem, and it was I had no peace of mind during the I mean it was awful the way I am insects. 00:22:00 Speaker 4: Now, that's how I was about mice. 00:22:01 Speaker 3: Then I apologies to all my coworkers who had to hear it. But anyway, I brought this up on my show. I had a guest, this guy RJ. City, who has a genuine spider phobia, Like he can't if you show him a clip from the Muppets where there's a spider like a puppet spider like uppet, he's afraid of that. He's like, truly, it's a true phobia. I cannot And I said that I have musophobia. I think that's what it's called, like a fear of mice. And he's like, do you really have is it a genuine phobia or And I was like well, like if I, you know, I can watch ratituy, if I see mice in a pet store, which do those even exist anymore? 00:22:42 Speaker 2: I don't know the independently we've got the big box, We've got a pets is a pet smart or pet Smart? 00:22:48 Speaker 3: To me, it's pet Smart, But now I don't know like smart about pets. 00:22:53 Speaker 2: But they're not clear about the name of that pet smart. It can be pet smart, pets smart. You're proposing makes more sense, kind of like a Walmart k Mark. Yeah, is it walls Mart or wall Smart? What if it's wall Smart? But there's no no. I wasn't gonna correct you, but there's there is that dash in between the two. Maybe that takes the place of the s right like a wheel a fortune type situation named this big box retailer. 00:23:22 Speaker 3: Right right, and I'll buy an ass Oh my god, what is she doing? And then I go viral. But Wallsmart. I got it, It's Wallsmart. But anyway, he was like, I want to suggest to you you don't have a true mouse phobia. You just don't want mice in your house, which is very normal. Oh my god, so I've been claiming too phobia. I'm like that person that shows up at a support group but like doesn't really need the sport. 00:23:54 Speaker 2: She's taking up part time. I wonder, Yeah, but can have just one? I mean I have a mouse and rat phobia. I'm pretty sure. I mean I can look at Rizzo the rat, sure, but like that's a muppet. I can look at the muppet. I can look at ratitwo we But in real life, the presence of a rat or a mouse, I wig out. 00:24:15 Speaker 4: What if it's in a store, in like a little habitat it, I. 00:24:17 Speaker 2: Can't look at it. Okay, the naked tail, the idea of those teeth, I know, the small naked hands, everything about it. I mean it's making me I shouldn't even be describing it, making you uncomfortable, right, making me really uncomfortable? 00:24:30 Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, but do you have you done what I did, which is try to figure out where is this coming from? Because the truth is, like I like little I like animals. If there was a bird near me or a rabbit near me, I'm not going to freak out certain birds maybe if they were like gonna attack me? Right, So why are why am I so freaked out by mice or rats? 00:24:52 Speaker 2: Well? I can tell you why I'm so freaked out by them. I had a rat, and the listeners may know this already. I've talked about it in the past. I had a rat first grade as a pet. It escaped to live in our garage and become rabid. I mean, we don't know for sure it was a rabid, but it wasn't there and it was acting wild. 00:25:09 Speaker 3: What did it do? 00:25:10 Speaker 2: It was acting crazy, I know, but I appreciated running around. 00:25:15 Speaker 3: There was people who would hear that and just move on, but I need. 00:25:18 Speaker 2: It was just running around and seeming suspicious. 00:25:22 Speaker 3: Again, none of this is. 00:25:27 Speaker 2: I didn't want to find out what this rat was capable. It had moved into the garage, was behind the wood, It was eating a Snickers. It was it was out of its mind. 00:25:37 Speaker 3: I'm not hearing anything alarming, yet, this is like what a dog would do. 00:25:42 Speaker 2: I could look the bottom line. It betrayed me, okay, so that alone, it broke the trust. It broke the trust, and I've lived with that for the rest of my life. 00:25:52 Speaker 4: What was its name? 00:25:53 Speaker 2: Splinter? 00:25:54 Speaker 4: What was its name? It became rabid? 00:25:56 Speaker 2: Who knows? Yeah, moved in a viper some like that. But it was a scary little creature. And now I no longer can deal with rats or mice. 00:26:05 Speaker 3: This is such an amazing origin story because at one point you were at one. 00:26:10 Speaker 4: With can you imagine the rodents? Was it a good pet before it took. 00:26:14 Speaker 2: Off as far as I remember, But you know, it's it's so shaded for me at this point because of the betrayal. Irt it must have been. 00:26:21 Speaker 3: A bad pet, right like when you divorce someone, if you have an acrimonious divorce, you can't even look at the wedding pictures anymore, right, you can't remember what it was like to not feel betrayed. 00:26:33 Speaker 2: Right exactly. And this was a divorce. Let's be honest. This was simply a divorce between the rat and I. I mean, look, speaking of betrayals, uncomfortable behavior, this kind of thing, Alison, you begged to be on the podcast. 00:26:48 Speaker 3: I demanded it. I wouldn't take no for an answer. I mean, you tried to say no so many times I was. 00:26:55 Speaker 2: I stopped answering your calls. I changed address, right, but you made it through. No, you were going to be on at some point. 00:27:02 Speaker 3: But I mean that's what you say, but you start bring. 00:27:05 Speaker 2: Gas on the fire. And sped up the process. 00:27:09 Speaker 3: I mean, so so annoying. 00:27:13 Speaker 2: But you clearly knew what the podcast was. It's called I said no. 00:27:16 Speaker 3: Gifts, right, Well, I don't respect boundaries obviously obviously. 00:27:21 Speaker 2: I mean clearly, you show up today, you're holding what's obviously a gift. It's for me. You handed it to me, not to analis. No, you didn't just leave it in the car. This is for me, that's right. 00:27:31 Speaker 4: It was my way of saying F you. 00:27:34 Speaker 2: And I am feeling f't as h right now? 00:27:39 Speaker 3: Oh G. 00:27:41 Speaker 2: I mean do you want me to open it here on the podcast? 00:27:43 Speaker 4: I think that would be appropriate. 00:27:45 Speaker 2: Yes, fine, So we're gonna get into this is a fun little bag. It's got some flowers on it, It's got tissue in there. I feel like we haven't gotten a crinkle on this podcast in a while. Oh, get the crank off, crinkle, crinkle, crinkle on a Lisa probably cut all of that, who knows. Don't want to blow any speakers at home. Okay, there are two objects here. 00:28:21 Speaker 3: Do the other one first, because the one you just lifted it up is less exciting. 00:28:24 Speaker 2: Okay. Oh, there's a lot of tissue here, and this is heavier and it feels like something I could break. Yes, so we're gonna be very careful now we're pulling. It's wrapped in tissue. You're coming with me here, listener. Oh my god, I love whatever this is. This is a like a porcelain. It's a baby, it's a lady's boot. It's beautiful. It's kind of a cream color with a rose on it. Bobby McGhee's, what is this war I don't even know what this is. 00:28:54 Speaker 4: Conglomeration. 00:28:55 Speaker 2: Conglomeration established in nineteen seventy one. I have to know absolutely. This is already in the top five objects of my good Okay, Okay. 00:29:07 Speaker 3: So there was a chain of restaurants called Bobby McGee's, okay, and the servers dressed as characters from movies. I particularly remember being served by Indiana Jones. I think there was also a Princess Leah. I wish I could remember the other servers, but it was Disney exactly. It was a theme restaurant to the hilt, and I would go there for birthday parties. I was actually before I came, I was looking it up to see there were things that I had forgotten about, Like there was a big salad bar that was in a giant bathtub. There were different It was a huge restaurant evidently, and there were different rooms and each room have. 00:29:46 Speaker 4: Like a different theme. 00:29:47 Speaker 3: But it was wacky and it was zany, and they served you drinks in fun, novelty glasses. So what I remember is at the beginning, and I assume for adults it was like drinks with alcohol, but for kids you were offered either a strawberry daker or a strawberry banana margarita. I might have that strawberry doerri, yes, and it was in either the original line of glassware was it was in a toilet, a sink, or a canoe or like abo, a robot. 00:30:18 Speaker 2: That seems like a horrible way to drink. 00:30:20 Speaker 3: Yes, it was a very shallow thing with a little straw in it. So that was the original suite of glasses and you would take it home and it was a collector's item. And then at some point they introduced a cactus, a western man's boot or a lady's boot. 00:30:35 Speaker 2: I'm on board with that theme. 00:30:37 Speaker 3: So my sister and I had a ton of these. When finally my pestering worked, I was like, I know what I'm going to get Bridger. I'm going to go into my collection of a stemware and I'm going to find one of those and give it to him. And I had plans to be at my parents' house, where this collection resides, and I asked my mom and she's like, I know exactly where they are. And I was like, oh my god, score, because their garage is insanely I mean, there could be several feral rats out there and just tons of boxes exactly living their best lives. So we went into the garage and she's like, it's in that box and then dunt dun, duh, because she's like, this is making me feel like I'm going crazy. 00:31:19 Speaker 4: I was sure they were right there. 00:31:21 Speaker 3: I texted my sister, and my sister said something that I was not expecting. She said, I was asking her recently about those two and we couldn't find that. 00:31:30 Speaker 4: The boots were calling you thanks the toilets, right. 00:31:34 Speaker 3: So anyway, I said, you know what, I'm not going to be thwarted, and I went on to either Etsy or eBay. They're not the I mean, they're collector's items, but they're I don't mean to besmirch the gift that I disrespectfully gave you there. It's not like there's a huge market. There're no beauty babies. You can get an idea that. 00:31:54 Speaker 4: You can get plenty of them online. 00:31:56 Speaker 3: So I just went and uh, and I purchased this for you because I was like, I have got to give this to you. 00:32:01 Speaker 4: It just it just felt right. 00:32:03 Speaker 2: This is so in line with everything I love. I adore the way this thing looks. I mean, it's so bizarre to me. They would give you one every time you went to the time. Yeah, that's not a sustainable business model. 00:32:13 Speaker 3: This is why they went out. Maybe that's why they went out of business. 00:32:17 Speaker 2: Wow. What sort of food was Bobby McGee's serving. 00:32:20 Speaker 3: So I was trying to remember this. I'm remembering chicken strips. 00:32:25 Speaker 2: Okay, it makes sense, that's. 00:32:27 Speaker 3: All I'm remembering. But I know there was more. Oh maybe like a spaghetti Okay. Yeah, I don't think you went. 00:32:33 Speaker 4: There for the food. 00:32:34 Speaker 2: You went there for the map. 00:32:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, you went there for the whimsy. So, like I said, there was two choice of drinks for kids. I don't know if there was a prefix. I don't know if it was a kid's menu, but I think it was like a salad from the salad bar that I had forgotten was in a giant boat, no bathtub, yes, and then maybe chicken strips or spaghetti, and then probably a choice. 00:32:58 Speaker 4: Of dessert or something. 00:33:00 Speaker 3: Okay, but I don't know if for the adults there was something more involved. 00:33:04 Speaker 2: Oh right, that makes sense. You were you were getting off the kids menu. I'm so curious about this bath full of salad. Was it Were there little different spots of food or was it just a bunch of wet lettuce in a bathtub? 00:33:17 Speaker 3: It was they had offered one kind of salad. It was just a house salad. And you, I'm just and you would jump in. No, I think it was. It's like it's been wiped from my memory. I have no memory of this salad bar, which is nuts, because I often joke that if I ever strike it rich, I want to have. I want my own driver, because I don't. I have a terrible sense of direction, and I want a salad bar in my house. COVID has threatened to dampen that salad bar. 00:33:46 Speaker 4: I don't know. Do they even have salad bars anymore? 00:33:48 Speaker 2: That's a great question. I feel like they were already on the brink, even pre purse. 00:33:53 Speaker 3: I know I was because I know a lot just like kind of people who are fine with ants in their ractum in the middle of the night. Many people are like, salad bars are so gross, and I'm like, really. 00:34:02 Speaker 4: I think they're fine. 00:34:03 Speaker 2: I love a salad bar. 00:34:04 Speaker 3: I love a salad bar. Does Gelson's Skeltons? 00:34:08 Speaker 2: I wouldn't put it past Gelson's. And let's be honest, Whole Foods kind of has a salad bar. 00:34:12 Speaker 4: Okay, they have a salad bar. 00:34:14 Speaker 2: Plus yeah, but I kind of want the salad bar to be in the restaurant kind of yes, taking up space in a place where other food is being made. 00:34:22 Speaker 3: I a'll hold space for a salad bar to take up space. 00:34:25 Speaker 2: I don't want to be pushing a shopping cart and then getting into the salad bar. 00:34:28 Speaker 4: Right, it's not the same. 00:34:29 Speaker 3: No, I want them to bring me an ice cold plate or tell me you can head to the salad bar anytime you want, and then I'm gonna grab an ice cold plate out of an ice cold freezer, and then I'm gonna make my way across thinking this is so unhealthy and I don't care the ham cubes, the bacon bits, the little like the matchsticks of beats. 00:34:50 Speaker 2: Oh, I can't stand a beat? Oh, really you like a beat? 00:34:53 Speaker 3: If I'm at a salad bar, I don't find myself opting for beats often at home. My husband loves to beat salad. That's like I feel like when we met, that was he really like that was one of the defining aspects of his personality. 00:35:06 Speaker 2: He liked that he liked to beat salad. 00:35:08 Speaker 3: Yes, and yet I went forward with it. There were other things to balance it out, but like, yeah, he just like will never turn down to beat salad. And yet I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen him eat beats. 00:35:21 Speaker 2: Oh, I've given beats so many chances. I've tried, you know, horrible salad bar beats. I've tried an elevated beat. It is disgusting. What is it about a beat that anyone likes? 00:35:34 Speaker 3: To me, a beat doesn't have much flavor. It's just like it's it's a rich hue, It's like a little bit fancy. I think that's why my husband claims he goes for the beat salad. But he and the beat salads are like me and my phobias, which are you know, just for class. 00:35:50 Speaker 2: Right, just doing it as a conversation like, oh. 00:35:54 Speaker 3: We get it, you're quirky, but like I'm not. I guess I'm basic. I find beats, and I know this is like just running contrary to everything you're saying. For me personally, a beat is sort of inoffensive. It's got kind of an interesting texture, that's about it. 00:36:12 Speaker 4: Though. 00:36:13 Speaker 3: I would never be excited about a beat alone alone on a plate, not if I'm by myself. If I'm with friends, I'm for sure making a lot of noise about the beat because i want them to think I'm cool. 00:36:26 Speaker 2: To be just completely alone with a beat on a plate, it's such a. 00:36:30 Speaker 3: Nightmare, right, But you're feeling about beats, That's how I am with cucumbers. I've given them so many chances, and I just can't. 00:36:39 Speaker 2: I just don't like them to it, even like with a sweet like a rice vinegar on it. 00:36:44 Speaker 3: That's probably the best situation where the peel is taken off and it's just kind of a crunchy thing that doesn't taste a lot like cucumbers. Right, But just if it really has a strong cucumber flavor, I'm out of there. 00:36:59 Speaker 2: What would you do you compare? This is so interesting to me because I do think cucumbers are such a mild flavor. What would you compare the flavor of a cucumber too if you had. 00:37:06 Speaker 3: To obnoxious watermelon? And I also don't like watermelon. And whenever I say I don't like beets, and people are like not everyone, but I feel that Paula Tompkins said this, I might just be dropping a name. You know, they're related to the watermelon. I'm like, well, that makes sense because I don't like either of them. Wow, there's something like almost bitter about it. 00:37:29 Speaker 2: Or the peel is very extremely bitter. Yes, if you eat one with the peel, it's right awful. 00:37:34 Speaker 3: But even the watermelon, I mean the cucumber itself. I just I have a visceral feeling or memory about like having a mouthful a cucumber and being like, I can't do it. 00:37:45 Speaker 2: I mean a mouthful of cucumber. What are we talking about? 00:37:48 Speaker 4: I really commit. 00:37:51 Speaker 2: Just a big mouthful of cucumber. Interesting, Well, I guess we'll just have to we each have our vegetable we don't like to eat. I mean, I will simply eat every other type of food, but a beat get it out of my way. 00:38:04 Speaker 4: But what is it you dislike about it? 00:38:06 Speaker 2: It's like gelatinous dirt and it's sweet, Like, what about that is? Why is? Why are people into that? 00:38:14 Speaker 4: Gelatinous? 00:38:15 Speaker 2: It always tastes like it just came out of a can. It's never it never doesn't taste like it's been in a can. 00:38:21 Speaker 3: Right, It's got a bit of a metallic taste. Yeah, but gelatinous. I understand. It's like a little a little wobbly, but gelatinous. That's I mean, that's like something you could just like tonguew to. 00:38:36 Speaker 2: Just jump it gumma beat. That's kind of what they're for. When you're like one hundred and fifty years old, all of your teeth are gone. Yeah, I might maybe by then I'll have learned to eat beach. 00:38:49 Speaker 4: Is it a texture thing though? 00:38:50 Speaker 2: Or is it it's the whole package. 00:38:52 Speaker 4: How do you feel about a canned peach? 00:38:54 Speaker 2: Don't mind it? Okay, I could get into a canned peach. I mean, I feel like canned peach is only really come out of a cellar when every the earth is dying or something. But I could eat a can peach canned pair. I'm not forget it, but I'm not crazy about a pair. Yeah, from the beginning. 00:39:10 Speaker 3: I kind of got into pairs hardcore in the last few months, but prior to that, I was not that into it. All of a sudden, I was like that Harry and David's Pair of the Month club thing. 00:39:24 Speaker 2: I get it for you. 00:39:25 Speaker 3: I mean I never have received it because I don't have a podcast where I solicit presence. 00:39:30 Speaker 2: I don't know. I wonder I would love to be on whatever podcast you're talking about. 00:39:36 Speaker 3: But for the first time, I was like, oh, I kind of understand this thing where you get like an individually wrapped pair that you can eat with a spoon. 00:39:45 Speaker 4: According to all H and. 00:39:46 Speaker 2: D they encourage you to eat it with a spoon. 00:39:49 Speaker 4: I think that's the whole thing. 00:39:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it's so succulent you can just eat it with a spoon. 00:39:54 Speaker 2: It sounds like it's rotting or something. 00:39:56 Speaker 3: It really does something a problem. 00:40:00 Speaker 2: Well, back to Bobby McGee's themed restaurants. I just recently read that they may be making a comeback. Where was the Bobby McGee you went to? 00:40:09 Speaker 3: It was in I believe it was in Newport Beach. 00:40:13 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, they obviously themed restaurants really cratered probably early thousands. Yes, and then truly just a week ago I saw a thing our themed restaurants headed back to Los Angeles. 00:40:27 Speaker 4: Was where was where were you reading? 00:40:28 Speaker 2: It was an eater really, which you know makes the place I go. So everybody buckle up for themed restaurants. 00:40:35 Speaker 3: Did it propose any kind of themes? 00:40:37 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that I clicked the I should have enough. 00:40:41 Speaker 3: I feel like I get what they were saying. Yeah, people are wondering, but yeah, and they might be, But. 00:40:47 Speaker 2: I guess I should get back into that and see what theme could possibly be happening at this point. It was Rainforest Cafe. 00:40:53 Speaker 3: When I was a kid and into my early adulthood, I would go nuts for a hard rock cafe. Oh, of course, are those still around? 00:41:02 Speaker 2: They have the hard Rock Hotel, which was an interesting pivot for them, Yes, which are kind of slimy hotels. 00:41:09 Speaker 3: I have stayed at and spent some time at, but not a lot of times. The hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas, which is like fine, okay, fine. 00:41:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, they all seem to be kind of vegasy, right hard Rock Hotel. There must be a few hard rock cafes left on aalise is yes, where are they on a guess? 00:41:30 Speaker 3: Oh? 00:41:30 Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, guess where do you think the closest the closest one Madrid. 00:41:37 Speaker 4: Terrible? 00:41:37 Speaker 2: I'm going to say Hollywood. Oh really, maybe there's still one open in Hollywood. 00:41:43 Speaker 4: And I am going to say. 00:41:46 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh, the Pittsburgh Hollywood Cafe. Wait, Hollywood? Is it called Hell Hollywood Cafe? 00:41:53 Speaker 4: Hard Rock? 00:41:54 Speaker 2: Why am I saying Hollywood Cafe? That's another idea though, themed restaurants. Hard Rock Cafe? Okay, yep, on Elise. 00:42:01 Speaker 4: All right. 00:42:02 Speaker 5: The nearest hard Rock Cafe is located at sixty eight oh one Hollywood Boulevard. 00:42:07 Speaker 2: See, it's still open. 00:42:09 Speaker 4: It's still open. I can reserve a table right now in. 00:42:12 Speaker 2: Kind of the pit of Hell. 00:42:13 Speaker 3: Is that like Hollywood and Vine area? Hollywood in Highland? 00:42:16 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so? 00:42:17 Speaker 3: Is it in Hollywood near the Chinese Theater. 00:42:20 Speaker 2: I think the reason I know that is because when I worked at Kimmel, they taped there and I must have seen it on occasion. 00:42:25 Speaker 4: Why does no one ever go there? 00:42:27 Speaker 2: Because it's the food's horrible? I think that might be the first problem with the restaurant. But I always had a good time there. 00:42:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's like we've do you ever have the thing that I have where someone will pop into your mind and you're like, I literally have not thought of that person. Like for me, it's like this guy that I had gone to college with who I wasn't good friends with him, but he was like we were in sort of concentric friend and groups, let's say, and I saw someone at the airport that looked kind of like him, and I was like, oh my god, I literally have not thought of that guy in so many years. That's what happened to us with hard Rock Cafe. 00:43:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, completely vanished from our reality. I want to go, now, you should go? 00:43:09 Speaker 3: I mean do was the food always horrible? 00:43:12 Speaker 2: I mean I remember like eating there. One came to Salt Lake City when I was probably an early teen or something before I had kind of figured out that food should taste good, and I remember liking it. Then. I think I. 00:43:23 Speaker 4: Returned a little lime chicken. 00:43:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, they always had something like that, like marinated chicken or whatever. I remember returning to it a little later, maybe my college years, and thinking, well, this is bad chilies. It's like chili's like they had been reheated or something. 00:43:38 Speaker 4: Right, Okay, but now that. 00:43:40 Speaker 2: Was years ago. Maybe they reversed. Course it doesn't. 00:43:43 Speaker 4: Sound like it. 00:43:45 Speaker 2: I mean, who knows. 00:43:46 Speaker 4: I do not believe there's one in Hollywood. 00:43:48 Speaker 2: This is breaking, speaking of Hollywood, Planet Hollywood, that's completely gone, right. I believe they tried to become kind of a it was like Hollywood Light or something, and they were small like bars, right, didn't work out? 00:44:02 Speaker 4: Was Planet Hollywood was? 00:44:03 Speaker 3: Was it like the hard rock Cafe of Movie Memorabilia? 00:44:06 Speaker 2: Yes? 00:44:06 Speaker 4: Okay, But speaking. 00:44:08 Speaker 3: Of themed places that become bars, did you ever go to Trader Vix? No? 00:44:12 Speaker 2: What was this, oh, Trader Vix? 00:44:14 Speaker 3: This was actually sort of a high end themed restaurant. I know that sounds hard to believe. It was like Polynesian theme, okay, and the original one started in San Francisco I think, and then there was also one in Los Angeles, so they would have it was like Polynesian Tiki themed. 00:44:31 Speaker 4: The food, if I remember, was actually quite good. 00:44:34 Speaker 2: Was it Polynesian food? Yes? But like fusion? 00:44:37 Speaker 1: Oh? 00:44:37 Speaker 2: Okay, I say no. 00:44:39 Speaker 3: They had a Pooh Pooh platter which was no no, no, sorry, they would called it. 00:44:44 Speaker 4: It was called Cosmo Tidbits and it was like little. 00:44:46 Speaker 3: Cos I believe, yes, yes, so yes, it was traditional polyy. They had like they had ribs. They had some kind of pasta that was good. I haven't been there a lot. 00:44:59 Speaker 2: Every one of these rests stans has a pasta dish and they're not Italian restaurant. 00:45:02 Speaker 3: I know. 00:45:03 Speaker 2: It's like the Feticini. 00:45:05 Speaker 3: They had a Javanese dressing which was soy sauce and vinegar and oil, but it was good. They also had a line of salad dressings that they sold in stores. But anyway, they now exist as a bar in a hotel, Trader Vicks bar. I think if it's still there in Beverly somewhere in Beverly Hills. 00:45:25 Speaker 2: I think, oh, okay, so it's not like part of the ratison or something. It's not like Holiday has a trader. 00:45:30 Speaker 4: Oh I wish. 00:45:33 Speaker 2: Wow. Well, good for them for hanging on somehow, just downsizing to survive. 00:45:37 Speaker 3: Except that we went there and many years ago and it was depressing. 00:45:41 Speaker 2: Oh were the drinks any good? 00:45:43 Speaker 4: Maybe I can't remember. 00:45:45 Speaker 3: I just remember being like maybe I didn't realize it was just a bar. Maybe I thought we were going to in a hotel and I was like, oh, this is It's like a very thin, narrow menu that just has drinks and a couple happy hour items. 00:46:01 Speaker 2: This is not my memory of it, and how heavily themed wasn't. 00:46:06 Speaker 3: Heavily I'm gonna say. 00:46:07 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:46:08 Speaker 3: There was also a gift shop in it, and I remember as a kid getting to choose a little item. There were menahonies, which I feel like this is probably problematic. Menahoney was like a small mythological indigenous creature, and I think it was like the mascot of Trader Vish Boy, and they would have these tiny little plastic menahoneys on like swizzle sticks, but you could also buy little minahoney figurines. 00:46:40 Speaker 2: I feel like Trader vis probably had a few problematic things going on. Yes, interesting, Maybe I should head over to the Trader Vicks bar. It sounds so sad. 00:46:55 Speaker 3: Get you get yourself an order of beats and then have yourself. 00:46:58 Speaker 2: On awful time. Temple Sherry Shirley Temple, Shirley Temple. Sherry Temple is the sister that was forgotten. She died. She was a chimney sweep. Okay, well, I've got this thing. I'm I imagine I have to drink it with a straw. 00:47:16 Speaker 3: I think not out of this thing you could try, but I would recommend a straw I. 00:47:21 Speaker 2: Could sip, but this feels like a straw type object. I'm going to have that in my cupboard and I'm going to drink out of it. I love it. 00:47:27 Speaker 3: I'm so happy about it makes me happy because I have wondered about the fate of the gifts that you receive that aren't received so. 00:47:34 Speaker 2: Well, they're still filling up my home. Okay, I just resent them, okay, Whereas this is something I'll be delighted by all the time. 00:47:42 Speaker 4: It's so exciting. 00:47:43 Speaker 2: So I really appreciate you thinking about my feelings. 00:47:46 Speaker 3: Now. 00:47:47 Speaker 2: The second gift, Oh, I forgot there was even a second thing in here. 00:47:50 Speaker 4: Less thoughtful. 00:47:51 Speaker 2: Okay, that's Oh, it's a little bread loaf by how do you say this? Taso or taso? 00:47:57 Speaker 3: I don't know. 00:47:58 Speaker 4: But it's tea. 00:47:59 Speaker 2: Wait, oh it's glazed lemon loaf flavored tea. 00:48:02 Speaker 3: Yes. 00:48:03 Speaker 2: Now, oh, we've gone too far. 00:48:05 Speaker 3: I know that when you said a little it's a little bread loaf, I got excited, like that would be such a good gift. 00:48:12 Speaker 2: That would be cool, little bread loaf. Yeah, I know your guests, I need some. 00:48:17 Speaker 3: Bread small bread though, rightall bread, I don't need that much bread. No, this is glazed lemon loaf tea. It is actually if you like herbal teas, do you? Yeah? 00:48:26 Speaker 2: I love herbal teas. Actually, I mean I was thinking with this boot, Uh could I put a hot drink in it? 00:48:32 Speaker 4: I don't know the answer of a boot? 00:48:35 Speaker 2: Who could ask for more? 00:48:38 Speaker 4: It's wonderful to me. 00:48:41 Speaker 3: The problem would be that the glaze might like melt. But look, if you're having a day with your carcinogenic chalk. 00:48:49 Speaker 2: They crossed that bridge. Let's go for it. 00:48:51 Speaker 4: I feel like it probably be okay, it's been through a kiln. Yes, you're right. 00:48:55 Speaker 3: So anyway, I became a fan of this tea, such a fan that I subscribed on Amazon, and then I forgot that I had subscribed, so like it just me, Yeah, I have so many boxes of this at home, and I'm not drinking it at the rate I once was. Okay, okay, So I don't know if you'll like it. 00:49:16 Speaker 2: It's I think I will like it because it combines everybody loves lemon and a tea. Yes, a little sweetness. It's a vanilla, right, which sounds very comforting. 00:49:26 Speaker 4: I really enjoyed it, and it's part. 00:49:28 Speaker 2: Of their dessert delight selection. I wonder what other desserts they're offering. 00:49:32 Speaker 3: I think there's like a butterscotch cake or something which I didn't like as okay, but the crown jewel of their dessert delight side. 00:49:44 Speaker 4: Oh and if I remember. 00:49:46 Speaker 3: Correctly, there's some like tongue in cheek copy on the box. 00:49:51 Speaker 2: Well there's let's see it here. It says we've got our own thing brewing. We're on a quest to be the most unexpected teamakers. Okay, they've done it. We're always curious, always questioning, what's this flavor? What's that aroma? 00:50:04 Speaker 4: I'm already annoyed. 00:50:05 Speaker 2: I know I've I mean, i've word one. I was annoyed. We love to dive in and stir things up. We're half curious kid, oh, half intrepid explorer, half undaunted alchemist. Okay, yes, one and a half. It's who's what poor soul had to write this? I know that spirit. We bring it to tea. We do it through unexpected blends with a twist, so you can taste the vibrant, undiscovered flavors the world has stashed away. You're getting so much free advertising for me. If I don't get if we don't both get massive boxes is of tea. I mean, you don't need it, but yeah, you can give it to the termites or something. I'm so excited to try this. And they also somehow have a recipe for bread on the side, which makes no sense. 00:50:51 Speaker 4: Yeah, so read it though this is not helpful. 00:50:54 Speaker 2: Heat your oven to three hundred and fifty degrees, grease a pan. Okay, this is falling apart because it says mick and eggs, sugar, yogurt, and whisk, vigorously stir in lemon, zest, vanilla, and flour, bake for fifty minutes, or just brew this tea in your favorite cup. We're a fan of both approaches. That recipe is not going to work out. It doesn't even tell you what I'm. 00:51:15 Speaker 4: Ount No, I think that's the whole thing. 00:51:18 Speaker 2: It's like this company could be saving millions on ink by not putting that on the box. I would love to see. I mean, what does that look like. That's just like scrambled eggs in a with yogurt. Yeah, yogurt and lemon. That is disgusting. Taso, you should be Taso Taso tasso. 00:51:35 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Taso taso feels. 00:51:37 Speaker 2: The most sophisticationing. Yes, that's probably what they want people to think of it. Well, I'm very excited to try this tea and maybe the horrible recipe. Number one ingredient is apple. 00:51:46 Speaker 4: Yeah, interesting, surprising? 00:51:48 Speaker 2: Okay, well, now I've probably ruined the taste. I'm gonna taste nothing but apple in this, and oh, I find so many ways to ruin everything in my life. Are you a big tea drinker in general? 00:51:57 Speaker 3: No, I kind of go through face. I'm a big coffee drinker. But then every now and again I'll be like, I don't feel like having coffee right now, and so I'll start drinking tea. But for them, it hasn't happened in a long time. 00:52:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tea for me is because I've slowly gotten away from a coffee in the afternoon. I think tea is going to be the replacement. 00:52:18 Speaker 3: And in general, are you drinking an herbal tea or like a black I. 00:52:21 Speaker 2: Love an herbal tea, iced tea. It's usually black tea, I suppose, but I love an iced green tea. I'll go for any tea as long as it's not sweetened sweet tea. 00:52:32 Speaker 3: Oh, and you don't put any sweetener in it. 00:52:34 Speaker 2: No sweetener. I just love the taste of an herb or a grass or whatever. 00:52:38 Speaker 3: But you don't like beets. 00:52:39 Speaker 2: Well, it's because of that texture and the dirt element and every other horrible thing about beats. I think we should play a game. 00:52:46 Speaker 4: I would love to play a game. 00:52:48 Speaker 2: We're going to play a game called Gift or a Curse. 00:52:50 Speaker 3: Oh. I love this when you do it on Instagram. 00:52:52 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Instagram. It's all over the place. And now you get to do it in person. 00:52:56 Speaker 4: I cannot wait. 00:52:57 Speaker 2: I need a number between one and ten from you. 00:53:00 Speaker 4: Four. 00:53:00 Speaker 2: Okay, I have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces. I'll just hang out right now. You couldn't. You're gonna you have work to do. You can promote, you can recommend, you can talk to the listener in whatever way you want to. 00:53:11 Speaker 3: Please check out my podcasts. Alison Rosen is your new best friend. Bridger has been a wonderful guest. Uh and this week, which it's gonna be a little bit in the rear view when this comes out, but I feel that it might still be relevant if you're into all the vander Pump Rules drama hashtag scandaval which just happened. I just had Peter Madrigal from vander Pump Rules on my show and he just talked a lot of s. My show is not usually about reality shows and gossip and stuff and Bravo gossip and stuff like that, but this week it is, so check that out. And then I also host a show called Childish that is my parenting ish podcast with Greg Fitzimmons. And then I'm on Patreon Patreon dot com slash Alison Rosen. And then I have a new Patreon for a new podcast that I'm starting. I was doing a show called Upworthy Weekly, which is the light hearted news podcast with this guy, Todd Perry. It was very fun. That one has been sunset. But we are sliding over to Patreon. There's just one level, two dollars. Patreon dot com slash Allison and Todd Beautiful. 00:54:15 Speaker 2: Your podcast was so fun to be on. You're such an excellent interviewer. Thank you, listener. Go check it out, check it out, check those podcasts out. But we have to play the game. Yes, I'm gonna name three things. Okay, you're gonna tell me if they're a gift or a curse, and why then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong, because there are correct answers. 00:54:33 Speaker 3: Oh, I love the pressure. 00:54:35 Speaker 2: Oh the pressure could not be higher. Number one. This is a listener suggestion from somebody named Miranda. Gift or a curse. Watching a horror movie in the morning curse? Why? 00:54:49 Speaker 3: I I'm sorry, that's a curse. I cannot do horror movies at all, at all. I scare easily clowns. Thing that we discussed, which is complicated, but so to me. You watch a horror movie in the morning. I know what everyone's thinking. The people who are going to say it's a gift are like, but it's daylight. So well, in my mind, you watch a horror movie in the morning. Now you're afraid in the daylight, which is not even an appropriate time to be afraid. 00:55:17 Speaker 4: I have been afraid in the daylight. 00:55:19 Speaker 3: I saw that awful, awful but scary to me movie Skeleton Key in the theater long story, came home afternoon and then I'm just walking around my apartment afraid. 00:55:32 Speaker 4: So I've been there. It's a curse. 00:55:34 Speaker 2: Alison. 00:55:35 Speaker 3: Oh wrong? 00:55:37 Speaker 2: What? Oh, You're so wrong? It hurts. It's a gift. What what a way to start the day you've got You know, you're waking ruining it, throwing things off in an interesting way. You're still in your robe, you're kind of moseying around the house. Somebody's getting killed on your television. You're waking up with Michael Myers, you're waking up with Freddy Krueger. You're rushing, and you're distracted for the rest of the day. That's the thing you're afraid of, rather than the things you're afraid of in real life. 00:56:06 Speaker 3: I get that that must be how people who like horror movies feel like, oh good. 00:56:12 Speaker 4: Now there's something concrete that I can. 00:56:14 Speaker 3: Feel terrorized by as opposed to just existence right. 00:56:19 Speaker 4: But for me, it's worse. 00:56:21 Speaker 3: I'd rather be like worried about that thing I said, than worried that someone's gonna kill me that I don't even believe in. 00:56:27 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, make an extra ninety minutes in your morning, set it aside to watch a horror movie, and your day is gonna go better. I really feel it. 00:56:35 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be able to do any of the things that I was intending to do. 00:56:38 Speaker 2: Though you haven't tried, Alison. 00:56:40 Speaker 3: I know, but I'm saying, like the idea of being scared out of my mind and then like having to get in my car and go do something I can't even. 00:56:48 Speaker 2: Well, you're not gonna You're not getting the point, so that's all that matters. Number two, This is an interesting one. This is from a past guest, she suggested, And this is past guest Jessica Goo kind of my enemy, but she suggested, let's be honest. I had to take the suggestion caffeinated snack bars gift or a curse gift? 00:57:06 Speaker 3: Why I have been having caffeinated snack bars of late Okay? 00:57:12 Speaker 2: What kind they're called? 00:57:13 Speaker 1: Verb? 00:57:14 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I know, I don't love the name of myself. But there's two different flavors I've tried. One is caramel machiato and keeping with the coffee. Then the other one is like vanilla. 00:57:24 Speaker 4: Latte or something. 00:57:26 Speaker 3: They're not delicious, But one little bar has the same caffeine as a cup of coffee, they claim. Uh so, yeah, I have been explored. I've become obsessed recently with coffee staining my teeth. 00:57:39 Speaker 4: I'm a fun person. 00:57:41 Speaker 3: I'm a fun person, and so I'm like, I've got to find a way to get the caffeine into my system without constantly just drinking coffee. So I've gone down the energy the energy drink route. And I really always judged a person with like a monster energy in the hand before, and now I am one of those bags. 00:58:00 Speaker 4: So yeah, so I. 00:58:02 Speaker 3: Say, gift, oh, oh. 00:58:06 Speaker 2: No, this is you have not started the game on a good foot. I mean you're halfway more than halfway through, and you've got another one wrong, horrible explain it. Just told me they don't taste good. Let's leave the caffeine to the drink. Let's leave the caffeine to the coffee. You've got a stuff wearing. Your teeth are gonna be fine. You brushed twice a day. 00:58:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're fine than that. 00:58:26 Speaker 2: You've been drinking coffee for years. You've got beautiful teeth. 00:58:28 Speaker 4: I mean, thank you. 00:58:29 Speaker 2: Get a straw drink. 00:58:31 Speaker 4: I actually I actually. 00:58:33 Speaker 3: Do that now, Okay, And I'm starting to realize I think I keep a tiny bit of coffee in my mouth, like like because theoretically the straw should make it bypass your teeth, right, And I sure I don't. I think I'm like it's like incomplete combustion in a car, which causes smock. It's like incomplete hydration. There's a little bit that's just sticking around in my lips. Maybe I don't know. 00:58:58 Speaker 2: You've got to let it go. These caffeinated snack bars. No, no, no, I don't believe like the content. They don't know how much caffeine they've got. They're making it up right, it's just and I feel like, you eat it and it's way more caffeine than you need. It's dangerous, it's disgusting. 00:59:15 Speaker 3: It's a guy who's using ant chocks as it's dangerous. 00:59:18 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, exactly. 00:59:20 Speaker 4: But you've never tried one. 00:59:22 Speaker 2: I've had one before and it's got kind of that bitter caffeine taste that's like obviously has been sucked out of a better product to be dumped into the bar. 00:59:31 Speaker 3: To me, what it says is we're not going to be concerned with making something that tastes good because you're desperate. 00:59:40 Speaker 2: We've got you're our hostage. Well no, no, no, zero out of two so far. Finally, this is from a listener, and I don't have their name. That's probably my fault. Listener. I have such a I apologize to you. But whatever aifter a curse when a news anchor plays themselves in a movie. 01:00:00 Speaker 3: Oh okay, Now I am forced with wondering should I pull the Costanza thing where it's like, since I've gotten too wrong, I have to not go with my instincts. Now, this is when a news anchor plays themselves in a movie, not when they just play a. 01:00:17 Speaker 4: Different news anchor. 01:00:18 Speaker 3: Right, I am going to say, I gotta be true to myself. It's a gift, and why I just like it? I Oh, you know what what happens if someone tries to change their mind halfway through? 01:00:31 Speaker 2: You can reverse. 01:00:33 Speaker 3: I'm gonna reverse because for a second I was into it, and then I thought about recently, I think I saw a news anchor play in themselves, and I thought to myself, you're debasing yourself. Here. There goes your thin veneer of credibility. Anyway, because whatever phony drama this movie is about, like you're buying in entirely. 01:00:58 Speaker 4: And listen, Brian Williams, Now, I. 01:00:59 Speaker 2: Can it was Brian Williams. 01:01:00 Speaker 3: I believe it. I wasn't going to say his name, but that I but I'm not sure it was. You can imagine it might have been. 01:01:07 Speaker 2: Brian does a lot of narrative acting, I believe, appearing as himself in fictional. 01:01:13 Speaker 3: But it's just like, well, now this is just you seem sincere and you seem stentorian. But now I know it's BS. So it's a curse. 01:01:24 Speaker 2: Thank god, Alison, You've got a point. It's a curse. I mean, everything you just noted makes it a curse. I mean, occasionally I do like to see my favorite news anchor pop up in a movie. 01:01:36 Speaker 4: And here's that. 01:01:37 Speaker 2: I don't you know my favorites. I don't have a particular favorite, but it's fun to see them. And they're all they're good at acting as a news anchor in because they're performing when they're on the news, so it does make it a little more authentic. But I love to see an actor be a bad news anchor, I because it's something other than acting. And most actors can't nay news anchor, right, And it's so funny to see a fake news anchor in a movie. It's incredibly distracting. 01:02:06 Speaker 3: Right, they overdoing it. Ye see, you're a serious thing. 01:02:10 Speaker 2: And these real news anchors are taking jobs from these bad actors and like that, or we don't. I don't like that they're taking these drinks. 01:02:18 Speaker 3: Right, Yes, I forgot there. 01:02:20 Speaker 2: They don't need a side hustle. 01:02:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, stay in your own lane. 01:02:23 Speaker 2: And also what does the universe of the movie become when a real person is in it? 01:02:28 Speaker 3: What I'm saying, Oh, it's so disorienting, right, we are not ready for that. It's post post post structuralism. Yes, and I'm not ready for that. 01:02:37 Speaker 2: None of us is ready for that. We can't be thousands of years away. We can't begin to comprehend what that is. 01:02:43 Speaker 3: That was such excellent grammar to say none of us is ready. Didn't any part of you want to say none of us are ready? Wow? 01:02:49 Speaker 2: No, I'm just a natural. I'm a natural. You are so good, But you got one one out of three is bad, but at least you didn't fail completely. 01:03:00 Speaker 4: Has anyone won all three? 01:03:02 Speaker 2: Very very few people. I believe it's still under ten. Very few people have lost completely. I think that number is even smaller. So you were headed towards that, which is kind of rare company. 01:03:16 Speaker 4: In the eleventh hour, right, I righted the course. 01:03:20 Speaker 2: Okay, so now we have to answer a listener question. This is called I said no emails people write into I said no gifts at gmail dot com and listener. We're really trying to open it up to truly you can ask anything. At this point people were asking about gift situations. But write and do whatever you want. I love answering questions, Alison, do you like to answer a question? 01:03:40 Speaker 3: I do? On Childish, which is my parentingish podcast, we answer questions and then sometimes we answer questions on Alice Rose as you know us friend as well. I find I sometimes try so hard to make sure that I'm giving them good advice that like I forget that I'm also supposed to be doing and entertaining show, which is also the Fuchs state I go into and talking about in facts I believe. 01:04:03 Speaker 4: So you could just pull me out. 01:04:05 Speaker 3: Of it if I begin spiraling down. 01:04:07 Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's give it a shot. I will just cut you off completely as so rude. Okay, this says gift god Bridger. Wow, what a title they've given me. And then for you TBD guests that she. 01:04:20 Speaker 3: Got to be sensual and disrespectful and. 01:04:22 Speaker 2: I guess kind to be determined. I'm so sorry, but that's it's this person's fault. Recently, a friend asked me to help her find a gift for her other friend in our mutual home country. I suggested some excellent local indie brands and stores where she could find what she needed, and we went together to look around. 01:04:43 Speaker 4: The country America. 01:04:44 Speaker 3: What country is. 01:04:45 Speaker 2: We don't know. I'm kind of picturing Scandinavian country, but who knows. Here's the problem. Once at the store, she ignored super cool stuff that is very representative of the style here, for things that fit her own personal aesthetic and are not as common here, not her friends, her own, and one that's more common where we're both from. Okay, I mean, if we get it. Perhaps this is just an affront to my own gift giving sensibilities, as I try to send people gifts very much of the place I live and that they couldn't get at home, while still considering a personal taste and style. This person's really puffing themselves up. 01:05:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, what are they like an ambassador for Scandinavia? 01:05:25 Speaker 2: Yeah? God only knows. Is this an affront to others if in a similar situation in the future. People often ask me for gift giving advice. How can I guide people in the right direction or perhaps become more open to the idea that I don't always know better. Thank you, And that's signed be leaguered buddy. So we don't even get a name. This person is afraid to give their name. 01:05:46 Speaker 3: Now, evidently people often ask this person for gift giving advice. Maybe they are some kind of ambassador. 01:05:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Maybe they've worked for the UN or something. I hope they're not in charge of anything. I'm not getting a good feeling from this person. They they're writing in their kind of their friend was on vacation and they were criticizing. 01:06:09 Speaker 3: And the feeling I'm getting is they're like, settle a bet, I'm right right, Like, this doesn't it doesn't feel. 01:06:15 Speaker 4: Like a genuine question. 01:06:16 Speaker 3: No, they have a strong opinion and they just want to know if you. 01:06:19 Speaker 4: Give God they want to get TVD agree with him. 01:06:23 Speaker 3: Now, Okay, So the friend and the other friend live in a mutual country which has distinctive like windmills, let's say, right, and the friend that they're buying the gift for does not live there. 01:06:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is such a confusing thing. Yeah, a friend asked her other friend, you know, there's a mutual home country that got I think they all came from the same country. This person now lives in a different country. 01:06:48 Speaker 3: Okay, but are they homesick for the wear of their country? 01:06:53 Speaker 2: I mean this person should I mean be in jail? This email is deeply confusing. 01:06:58 Speaker 3: Right. 01:06:59 Speaker 2: Let's assume this person moved to Sweden from the United States. Okay, and then their friend Jennifer came to visit Okay, and their friend at home, Melanie, needs a souvenir. 01:07:10 Speaker 4: Okay, So Jennifer asks the. 01:07:12 Speaker 2: Friend who's currently living in Sweden what should I get and then ignores all of that advice. 01:07:17 Speaker 3: To buy something that fits her whimsy. 01:07:20 Speaker 2: And let's say, yeah, Chabby Sheik, of course, and that you could clearly buy in the United States. 01:07:26 Speaker 3: Right. 01:07:27 Speaker 4: So the question, now, what is the question? 01:07:29 Speaker 2: How can so? 01:07:31 Speaker 4: Is that? A? 01:07:32 Speaker 2: And Kevin And let's let's put a mail in here, Kevin and Sweden. He wants to in the future when people have this question, he wants to be able to convince them to buy things he wants them to buy. 01:07:45 Speaker 4: Right. 01:07:46 Speaker 3: Well, look, if it's a I mean, we didn't Kevin did not provide us with the occasion forgetting Jennifer or no, Melanie, Melanie. If it is a souvenir. Can we make that assumption. Yeah, because it's coming from the to a home country. A souvenir usually is representative of the place. 01:08:06 Speaker 2: Right. 01:08:07 Speaker 3: For example, I have a magnet from Canada. Then my friend got me from Canada. If it was just a magnet that had a I mean, I like ducks, as one does if it was. But if it was a duck magnet, I would like it too. But I wouldn't think about Canada when I looked at it, right, So I do. Look, I don't want to give Kevin a point, much like you didn't want to give me. 01:08:27 Speaker 4: That last point. I could feel it. 01:08:29 Speaker 3: But you know, if this and if this is a unique country they're in, which it might be, we have no idea. If it has its own stuff, then yeah, send someone your Lingenberry jam or whatever. 01:08:43 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I think my advice here is if Kevin obviously has control issues, Yeah, is obsessed with sending home country objects away. Your friend is staying with you, says, what should I buy, Melanie? You say, give me some money. I'll go to the store and get you the perfect thing. Have to be part of the scenario. Then you buy a cheap something cheaper than the amount of money they gave you pocket some of the money. This is how you get Kevin is getting some excellent advice. Right now, You buy you know, a keychain that with a license plate that says Melanie Sweden on it, and then you keep the extra forty eight dollars. Take it back to Jennifer, say this costs fifty dollars and the problem solved. You got to control the situation entirely and steal from a friend. 01:09:28 Speaker 4: Yes, this is excellent, excellent. 01:09:31 Speaker 2: I mean I hate to give it after that confusing email. 01:09:33 Speaker 1: I know. 01:09:35 Speaker 4: Our advice. 01:09:36 Speaker 2: He deserves punishment, but we had to do it community service. That's part of this podcast. 01:09:43 Speaker 3: Now, what what is the ratio for how much you should be pocketing versus how much the gift costs? 01:09:48 Speaker 4: Sounds like percent. 01:09:52 Speaker 2: Take as much as you possibly can get, right. I don't care if it seems obvious that you're stealing, because if your friend then accuses you, you that's very That's a rude thing to do as a house. 01:10:02 Speaker 3: Guest, right right, then you know their true colors. 01:10:07 Speaker 2: They're the bad. 01:10:09 Speaker 4: At that point. 01:10:10 Speaker 3: Yes, how can I ask you a gift or a curse? 01:10:14 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I would love this. 01:10:15 Speaker 3: I wasn't intending to do this. I wasn't to come here, but it just occurred to me. Gift or curse. Gift bought in an airport? 01:10:25 Speaker 2: Oh, interesting, curse? I there's nothing interesting you're ever going to find it in an airport. Of course, it's always expensive, and uh, what what are we buying in an airport? You can't even go in the duty free shop, right, you can't that. 01:10:42 Speaker 4: You can't because I want those giant perfumes. 01:10:44 Speaker 1: Right. 01:10:44 Speaker 2: It's a strange alternate universe that you aren't allowed to enter the beautiful chocolates, the whatever the hell they're selling there. 01:10:53 Speaker 3: And then what alcohol, cigarettes, perfume and chocolates and maybe batteries I don't know. 01:10:58 Speaker 2: And then we've got the bizarre our souvenir store that just has the state printed on. 01:11:03 Speaker 3: Everything, sweatshirt with the state or like. 01:11:08 Speaker 2: And then we have a Hudson News Yeah he. 01:11:10 Speaker 3: Is candy lately. Oh yeah, but I don't know if it's like special airports. 01:11:16 Speaker 2: Right, and it's it's only in the boxes. You don't get to select the chocolates yourself, which is part of the fun for me exactly. But I'm gonna say, curse, yeah. 01:11:24 Speaker 4: Okay, I think I'm with you on that. 01:11:26 Speaker 3: To me, buying a gift in an airport is oh shoot, I forgot. I had to get something right, however, if I may just get something off my chest. Years ago, my husband and I went to Hawaii and we bought one of those boxes of chocolates, the Hawaiian box of chocolate. 01:11:44 Speaker 2: Like a macadamia. 01:11:45 Speaker 4: Not yes, like a maca. It's like they had. 01:11:47 Speaker 3: It's it is so of the place, because I think you can only get them everywhere at the place. But it doesn't look expensive or anything, but still for my mom. And we got home and gave it to my mom, and my brother, who was in town visiting, said something about oh airport special, and I was like, what it wasn't an airport special? It was rude, You're in Hawaii special? How dare you? 01:12:15 Speaker 2: What's his problem? 01:12:17 Speaker 4: Maybe he wanted that. 01:12:18 Speaker 2: I think you did want them. I think he expect you to bring home. 01:12:23 Speaker 3: A pineapple street from the Dole plantation, which you can't even bring on the plane. 01:12:27 Speaker 2: I have thought fresh produce. 01:12:29 Speaker 3: No, I have no idea, but I have carried that around with me for This was in twenty fourteen, A long. 01:12:36 Speaker 2: Time those chocolates are delicious. 01:12:38 Speaker 3: They're delicious and all. I just need to let everyone know. I hope they wasn't from the airport. Yes, they had them at the airport, but it wasn't. 01:12:47 Speaker 2: Frecause they were delicio place. 01:12:50 Speaker 3: It was from the CBS in Hawaii or whatever plant a pavilion. No, either, CBS are right, and I swear, I swear, I'm swearing. That's how much I want everyone to know. 01:12:59 Speaker 4: I bought it had a time. 01:13:01 Speaker 2: In a grocery store on vacation. That's a big deal. 01:13:04 Speaker 3: Thank you. 01:13:05 Speaker 2: I hope you cut off communication with your brother. 01:13:07 Speaker 4: We no longer speak. 01:13:08 Speaker 3: That's right, I said, you've gone too far finally. 01:13:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, I'm on your side though. 01:13:13 Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you. 01:13:15 Speaker 2: Well wow, We've done so much and I've received so much. I've got this beautiful boot, I have the novelty t and I'm in a novelty boot. Yeah, novelty. This is a novelty gift that I'm in full support of. Thank you for being here. I've had such a wonderful time. 01:13:32 Speaker 3: Thank you for letting me impose like this. 01:13:35 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. 01:13:37 Speaker 2: H listener, the podcast is coming to a close. There's nothing you can do about it other than just let it wind down, let yourself wind down. Maybe think of a horror movie you can watch tomorrow morning and we'll see you around. The podcast is over. I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Annalise Neilson, and it's beautifully mixed by Leona Squilatchi. And we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Cottner. The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said no Gifts, I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? 01:14:31 Speaker 3: And I invit? 01:14:32 Speaker 1: Did you hear? Funa man myself perfectly clear. 01:14:39 Speaker 3: When you're a guest to me, you. 01:14:44 Speaker 1: Gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your presences presents enough. I'm already too much stuff. 01:14:57 Speaker 3: So how do you dad? 01:15:00 Speaker 1: Hey meso