1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Guess what will what's that? Mang So, I wanted to 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: talk about this politician I think we can both get behind. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: And his name is Duke Rick, and he's from this 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: town in Cormorant, Minnesota. And Duke was elected mayor in 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: a landslide because the town doesn't want to be represented 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: by anyone who's super political. And this is about the 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: point I should tell you that Duke Rick is actually 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: a dog. In fact, he's the first dog mayor of Cormorant. 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: And he's this big, beautiful great Pyrenees. You know, I'm 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: really curious about Duke's agenda, but I have to ask, like, 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: what does he do as mayor? I mean, as you guess, 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: it's mostly ceremonial. There's this deputy who seems to do 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: most of the real work. But Duke can often be 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: found sitting in a bar where people feed him steak 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: and occasionally buy him swigs of beer. This is what 16 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: it says online. He also enjoys hanging out on the 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: streets where he's constantly approached by his adoring fans. And 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: of course he attends all the city council meetings. But 19 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: he's just this great ambassador for the town. Wow, And 20 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: so does he have any competition or what? He's actually 21 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: won three elections in a row now, and they were 22 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: all of these massive landslides. But you know, there actually 23 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: was one other candidate on the ballot. It's his girlfriend, Lassie. 24 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: So she only got a few votes in the last election, 25 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: but maybe she'll take over when he's tired running for 26 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: office and be sort of the town's first female dog mayor. 27 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: What you're hearing about Duke made me wonder what are 28 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: some other important famous first in doggy history. And that's 29 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: what today's episode is all about. So let's dive in. 30 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: Y Hey, their podcast listeners, welcome to Part Time Genius. 31 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm Will Pearson and as always I'm joined by my 32 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: good friend Man gues Ticketer. And on the other side 33 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: of the soundproof glass sitting with is that a It's 34 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: a Jacktarius? That what it is? Yeah? On his lap 35 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: right there, that's our friend and producer Tristan McNeil. I 36 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: do wish that all of our listeners could see this 37 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: because it is really pretty adorable scene. Yeah. I mean, 38 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: this little guy keeps putting his paws up on the 39 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 1: soundboard and he's got this I know it sounds weird 40 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: to say this, but like this really focused look. It 41 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: seems like he actually knows what he's doing. So I 42 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: laughed when Tristan told me he wanted to train the 43 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: first dog to record a podcast. But I think they 44 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: might pull it off, which is, I guess all the 45 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: more impressive when you find out that they just met yesterday. 46 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: Oh this is not even Tristan's dog. No, it's kind 47 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: of a business partnership apparently. Okay, all right, well, well, 48 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: we do have a ton of heartwarming stories to share 49 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: on today's show, which is all about famous first for dogs. Now, 50 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, we humans tend to hog the spotlight when 51 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: it comes to making history, which I guess there's no surprise, 52 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: as we're the ones writing it all down. But for today, 53 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: we thought we'd switched up a little bit and give 54 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: man's best friend a chance to finally step out of 55 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: the shadows and really take their bow. So, you know, 56 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: from the first dog to catch a frisbee to the 57 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: first dog to drive a car, we're going to dig 58 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: into the stories of some of history's most remarkable canines. 59 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: That's right, And since our recent President's episode is still 60 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: fresh on my mind, I thought we could start with 61 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: the very first dogs to hold the title of first Dog. Now, 62 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: just about every US president has had a pet of 63 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: some sort, but dogs have always been the most popular 64 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: by far. In fact, sixty eight percent of our presidents 65 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: have owned a dog while in office, and our very 66 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: first president was no exception. George Washington was a huge 67 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: dog lover. He owned fifty different dogs during his lifetime, 68 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: including seventeen who kept him company during his two terms. 69 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: And since Washington was an avid hunter, most of those 70 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: dogs were American fox Hounds, a breed he's actually credited 71 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: with founding seventeen dogs, And it makes you wonder like 72 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: whether he even bothered naming these dogs, and he did, 73 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: so we all know Washington was a great president, but 74 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: he was an even better dog dog namers. So I'm 75 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: gonna list out some of these names. He called them taster, Drunkard, tipsy, tippler. 76 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm I'm sensing a bit of a pattern here, So 77 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: so I feel like either Washington was a lush or 78 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: maybe the dogs were. Yeah, but there were seventeen of them, 79 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: so you know, he couldn't keep up this drinking language forever. 80 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: So some other names included Mopsie, Forrester Captain Rover Vulcan 81 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: makes them an early treky I, guess, and even sweet 82 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: lips sweet lips. Okay, well, all right, so those were 83 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: the first first dogs, but they actually weren't the first 84 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: ones to live in the White House, right, Like, I know, 85 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: Washington picked the spot where the White House would be built, 86 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 1: but he never actually got to live there. Absolutely true 87 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 1: that that particular honor went to these two mixed breed 88 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: pups that moved in with John Adams and his wife Abigail. 89 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: And while the dogs might have lacked the pedigree of 90 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: Washington's hounds, they also had some pretty colorful names. They 91 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: were known as Juno and Satan. Kind of weird to 92 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: think that Satan was like napping at the White House 93 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: in the earliest years. But all right, so we've covered 94 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: the first first dogs, but what about the first dogs period, 95 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: like first dogs overall? So how do you even figure 96 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: that out? Well, there's definitely a lot of disagreement on 97 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: the specifics of this, but it is worth looking at 98 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: what the history books mainly say. So some say prehistoric 99 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: humans began domesticating wolves around ten or maybe fifteen thousand 100 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: years ago, and you've got others who maintain it was 101 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: even longer ago, like maybe thirty or forty thousand years ago. 102 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: And of course the region where this took place is 103 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: just as much in question. You've got Europe, you've got 104 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: the Middle East, you've got East Asia being you know, 105 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: part of some of the most popular theories. And actually 106 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: they aren't even sure if it was humans who tamed 107 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: these wolves and bred them into the you know, kind 108 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: of the good pups that we know today. Instead, some 109 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: researchers think that wolves domesticated themselves, which might sound weird, 110 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: but if you think about it, you know this could 111 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: have happened by them just scavenging the kills left by 112 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: human hunts, or by hanging around the campfire until someone 113 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: literally threw out a bone. I mean, that's crazy to 114 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: think about. But I'm guessing there's no one dog we 115 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: can hand the title to right for first dog. Ever, Well, 116 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you're right, not in not in 117 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: terms of like first dog in general, but there is 118 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: a pup that I want to nominate for the title 119 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: of first pet dog. So in nineteen fourteen, there were 120 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: some workers that uncovered a grave in Germany, and that 121 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: grave contained the ancient remains of a man, a woman, 122 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: and a little dog. And these remains actually date back 123 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: to the Paleolithic era, so we're talking maybe like fourteen 124 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: thousand years ago, and so that makes them the oldest 125 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: known grave where humans and dogs were buried together. Okay, 126 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: so this is kind of splitting hairs on the definition 127 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: of pet but I'm pretty sure our ancestors only kept 128 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: dogs for utility, right, Like, like they weren't carrying them 129 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: around in purses as some sort of accessory. And I'm 130 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: guessing it was more of like a mutually beneficial work relationship. Well, 131 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: I mean, that's deaf only been the thinking in the past, 132 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: but looking at this grave in Germany had actually suggests 133 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: that there might have been more to it than than 134 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: just practicality. Actually, just this year, there were researchers that 135 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: we're looking at this and they brought in this veterin 136 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: area to come in and examine the remains, and what 137 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: they found was that this dog had had problems with 138 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: its teeth and and from that they were able to 139 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: conclude that the puppy actually died from canine distemper virus, 140 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: which you know this this only allowed him to live 141 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: until about ten weeks after he had contracted the disease. So, 142 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's sad, But what does that prove? 143 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: According to that research team, there's actually no way the 144 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: dog could have survived even that long with such a 145 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: life threatening illness unless it was really really cared for 146 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: by these humans. And so this is actually how nat 147 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: GEO sums up the team's findings. They said, this puppy 148 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: represents the earliest known evidence of dogs being regarded and 149 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: treated as pets. The carrot received while it was ill 150 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: and of no use to people, appears to have and 151 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: driven by compassion or empathy. In other words, an emotional 152 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: bond that is pretty sweet actually like and it isn't 153 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: something I'd expect to say after hearing about like a 154 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: fourteen thousand year old dead puppy, but it does make 155 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: you feel for it. And there's actually another archaeological find 156 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: I want to talk about, and that's the first dogs 157 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: to have ever had their image preserved, or the first 158 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: dog to be the subject of our however you want 159 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: to put it, what do you mean, like in cave 160 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: paintings or something, So it's actually cave carvings. And I 161 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: didn't realize these were things. But they were found last 162 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: year at two different sites in Saudi Arabia, and they're 163 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: thought to be the oldest depictions of dogs on record. 164 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: They date back eight or maybe even nine thousand years. 165 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: And what's wild about this is that it would mean 166 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: that humans were training and controlling dogs even before we 167 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: started farming. Alright, so I guess it's my turn to 168 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: to play devil's advocate here, because I mean, what makes 169 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: you so sure that these carvings actually showed domesticated dogs? 170 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: I mean like they could have just been wild dogs 171 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: that were in the air area, or honestly, maybe even 172 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: not dogs. Yeah. Well that's the thing. Like the dogs 173 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: and the carvings, they're actually on leashes. And the images 174 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: show human hunters with packs of dogs tethered to their waist, 175 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: leaving their hands free to shoot arrows at prey. And 176 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: and we know these are dogs because they have the 177 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: characteristics of dog breeds found in the region today. That 178 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: means like short snouts, pricked ears, curly tails. And if 179 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: that wasn't enough proof, the same series of carvings also 180 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: depict wolves, hyenas, lions, and horses, and they look completely 181 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: different from these leash dogs. Wow. All right, Well, I 182 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: guess that's a pretty good evidence. But I'm gonna give 183 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: that one too, you know, and unless there are older 184 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: carvings that come to light at some point, I feel 185 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: like you're probably right that these are the first dogs 186 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: to have their their likeness is preserved. I guess. Well, 187 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: I mean there's another first here. These hunting scenes are 188 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: also the earliest known evidence of dog leashes, so technically 189 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: they might be the first dogs to ever wear leashes 190 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: as well. I mean that seems like a little bit 191 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: of a stretch to use that one is like a 192 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: big first, and I guess that is is pretty interesting, 193 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: but you may be just showing off a little bit. 194 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: All right. Well, well, speaking of ruins, there's another pouch 195 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: in line with that theme, and that's the world's first 196 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: archaeology dog. If you're gonna stretch one, I'm going to 197 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: stretch one. So I know what archaeology digs are, But 198 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: what are archaeology dogs are? Are they for like hunting pottery? Well, 199 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: actually that could be an application down the line, but 200 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: for now, an archaeology dog is one that can locate 201 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: human bones that are hundreds of years old, and the 202 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: first dog to be trained to do this. Is this 203 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: Australian black lab mix and her name is Mighelou. And 204 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: the way that came about this is that her trainer 205 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: a guy named Gary Jackson. He was trying to think 206 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: of a new application for dogs amazing sense of smell, 207 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: and so you know, keep in mind dogs have somewhere 208 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: around two hundred million more old factory receptors than we do, 209 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: so scientists have been using them as field assistance for 210 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: years now. So I had actually read a little bit 211 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: about conservation dogs, which are these dogs trained to track 212 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: all sorts of tough to spot while species and they 213 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: track everything from like tiny toads, lizards, invasive plants, even 214 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: gorillas which can be people shy apparently, but uh, some 215 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: marine biologists and this is the craziest one of them all. 216 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: Have you even started using dogs to track whales by 217 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: the scent of their droppings? Isn't that amazing? Yeah, it's 218 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: amazing they could even pick up on that. But or 219 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: go back to to miglu just for a second, because 220 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: the closest thing to what she does would probably be 221 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: like like those cadaver dogs that law enforcement used to 222 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: find those decomposing bodies. But of course that doesn't work 223 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: for archaeology because the remains you're dealing with their long 224 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: past that decomposition stage. So it's it's not that that's 225 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: what they're smelling out like they're they're not trained to 226 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: sniff out rot. They're actually trained to smell human bones. 227 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: So they just gave her a bunch of old bones 228 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: to smell, and we're like, I don't know, like, now 229 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: go find more like this. That That is exactly what 230 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: they say. That is the training manual. World. Actually, what 231 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: they did was they got permission from these Aboriginal tribal 232 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: elders to train you know, this dog to smell these 233 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: ancestral bones. And they did this with this museum collection 234 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: and actually found this interview where he goes into detail 235 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: about how this works. So here's what he says. We 236 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: recreated an Aboriginal graveyard and also scattered some animal bones there. 237 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: What we saw was that the dog was able to 238 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: find a buried bone from about ten feet away, even 239 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: if it's as small as a fingernail. We would just 240 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: take a cotton ball and touch the bone and then 241 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: touch that to the rock and she could still find 242 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: the smell. The big test was at an Aboriginal burial 243 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: ground in South Australia where a six hundred year old 244 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: grave have been found. A few years ago. We were 245 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: given about an acre to search. Museum officials and tribal 246 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: elders were there and they knew where the graves were, 247 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: but not us. Within two minutes, Migaloo was circling this 248 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: one spot and it was exactly where the dog was 249 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: and it was a six hundred year old grave. I mean, 250 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: that's stunning. It really is fascinating that that dogs can 251 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: do that. And you can almost think, like how much 252 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: easier would be to get a grave site protected from 253 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: development if you had a dog that could show you 254 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: where the bones word and just I don't know, like 255 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: a few minutes. It's pretty remarkable of the applications. And 256 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: also like if you can find bones that easily, then 257 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: pottery doesn't feel that far away, or or even things 258 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: like dinosaur bones or other kinds of fossils, right, definitely, 259 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: I mean I think all of those are our possibilities. 260 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: And you know, there's also the chance this technique could 261 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: be used to crack cold cases that you know, police 262 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: are still dealing of where maybe there was this you know, 263 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: thought to be a body buried in a certain area, 264 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: but they were never able to find it. But you know, 265 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: whatever benefits we reap from this, we will all owe 266 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: it to Migalo for for helping us get started with 267 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: this type of work. The world's first archaeology dog. Well, 268 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: we still have a bunch of dogs to talk about, 269 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: including seeing eye dogs. But before we get to those, 270 00:13:54,440 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. You're listening to part time genius. 271 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: So we're talking about the famous first of a few 272 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: good dogs, all right, Mango. So we talked about Miguelo, 273 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: who was the Australian black lab that's been helping archaeologists 274 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: dig in all the right places. But I want to 275 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: get back to the basics and and maybe talk about 276 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: the kind of service or assistance dog that most of 277 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: us know best, and that's of course sky dogs. So 278 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: for a long time now, these dogs have been helping 279 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: blind and visually impaired people navigate the world much more 280 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: independently than they would be otherwise. And so I want 281 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about the history of their service. Well, 282 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: one of the things that's interesting to me is that 283 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: it really is hard to pinpoint when the first ever 284 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: guide dog came. Like you said, it's been going on 285 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: for such a long time. And in fact, the earliest 286 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: evidence of dogs guiding the blind dates all the way 287 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: back to the first century a d. And there's this 288 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: fresco in the ruins of this Roman town and it 289 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: actually depicts a blind man being led by his dog. 290 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: So you could say that's the first guide dog. But 291 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: the truth is that assumes that the artist based it 292 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: on real life subject and and that's kind of hard 293 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: to verify. Well, I mean, there is one thing that 294 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: we can say, and that it wasn't until the eighteen 295 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: hundreds that trained guide dogs became, you know, such an 296 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: important part of the medical establishment. I was looking at 297 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: this article on history dot com and here's how they 298 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: put it. The earliest systemic instruction of guide dogs took 299 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: place at a Paris hospital for the blind. Within a 300 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: few decades, the practice had spread to Austria, where a 301 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: blind man named Josef Risinger he trained his spits and 302 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: later a poodle so well that people actually began to 303 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: suspect he was faking his disability. Then in the eighteen hundreds, 304 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: another Austrian by the name of Johan Wilhelm Klein founded 305 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: the Institute for Training of the Blind and Vienna as 306 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: a teacher there. His dogs of choice were poodles and shepherds, 307 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: and well, you don't see too many guide poodles today. 308 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: German shepherds are still a common choice for training. So 309 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm curious that, like, do you know when guide dogs 310 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: first became a thing in the US, because I I 311 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: feel like they aren't really mentioned in the early American history, 312 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: you know, in the colonies or whatever. Yeah, there was 313 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of this that I saw and doing 314 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: some reading for this episode where you see it counts 315 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: from the mid eighteen hundreds and these were dogs that 316 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: were helping guide the blind. But it really wasn't until 317 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: the late nineteen twenties that you started to see this 318 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: practice gaining ground on you know, kind of on this 319 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: side of the Atlantic. But that change was largely thanks 320 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: to a wealthy American woman named Dorothy Harrison Eustace, as 321 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: well as a blind nineteen year old from Tennessee and 322 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: his name was Maurice Frank. So we're talking about ninety 323 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: seven here, when Eustace wrote an article for the Saturday 324 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: Evening Post and it was about her recent trip to 325 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: a dog training clinic in Germany, and this is where 326 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: doctors had been training guide dogs for use both by 327 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: veterans and civilians. And she herself had been living in 328 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: Switzerland at the time and she was breeding and training 329 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: these police dogs for the Swiss Army. But she'd never 330 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: seen anything like this new German method for training dogs 331 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: to act as guides for the blind, and so in 332 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: her article she was praising this technique as as a 333 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: way for the visually impaired too, as she says, once 334 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: more take up their normal lives. So where does this 335 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: guy from Tennessee com in? So that's Mars Frank, and 336 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: he hears about the article immediately writes a letter to 337 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: Eustace asking her to quote train me and I will 338 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: bring back my dog and show people here how a 339 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: blind man can be absolutely on his own. So you 340 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: fast forward to the next year and Frank spent some 341 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: time with her in Switzerland and returns home with his 342 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: very own guide dog, and this was, of course a 343 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: German shepherd that he had named Buddy. And the press 344 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: in the States goes crazy about this story. And so 345 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: it's the first case of a properly trained guide dog 346 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: in the US and reporters are asking Frank, you know 347 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: how having a guide has improved his life, and he 348 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: decides to give them some pretty compelling proof and and 349 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: shows and that with the help of Buddy, he can 350 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: navigate across one of New York's most hazardous thoroughfares. This 351 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: was a street known by locals as Death Avenue. It 352 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: seems a pretty but it seems like there could be 353 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: other ways you might test this. But fortunately when he 354 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: did it, they made it across without a scratch. And 355 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: just a year after that, Frank and Eustace founded the 356 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: first American guide dog school and they called it This 357 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: Seeing Eye, and it's actually still going strong today. I mean, 358 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: it's amazing to think about how relatively recent that was. 359 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,479 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at all the roles assistance dogs 360 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: filled today, and it's not just helping people with vision loss, 361 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: but also hearing impairments, epilepsy, autism, PTSD. It's pretty remarkable. Yeah, 362 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: I mean, when you lay it all out there, it 363 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: is actually pretty amazing the number of different ways dogs 364 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: have been able to help people just over the past 365 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: century or so. Yeah, I mean, they're getting the title 366 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: of man's Best friend for a reason. Then, Actually, I've 367 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: got a great example of this. It's this Yorkshire terrier 368 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: named Smokey, and during World War Two she became the 369 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: world's first therapy dog. So this goes back to this 370 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: American soldier named Bill Wynn, who adopted her after finding 371 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: her in this abandoned foxhole in New Guinea. This so 372 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: Smokey's first act of service was to save the lives 373 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: of Wind and his entire squadron. Apparently, the soldiers needed 374 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: to string this telephone wire through a seventy ft pipe 375 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: underground so that these three different campsites could communicate with 376 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: one another. And the problem was that the pipe was 377 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: only eight inches wide, so of course it was impossible 378 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: for human to crawl through it, and instead dozens of 379 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: men had to spend days digging a trench to get 380 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: the wires underground, and all the while they were leaving 381 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 1: themselves exposed to enemy attack. Or at least that was 382 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: the plan, and that's how it would have gone had 383 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: it not been for Smokey. So she was the scrawny dog, 384 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: weighing about four pounds, standing just seven inches tall, and 385 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: she could actually fit into the pipe with ease. So 386 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: with a little bit of luck and a little bit 387 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: of patients when was able to tie the wire to 388 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: Smokey and coax her through the pipe from above ground, 389 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: and of course, the little pop got the job on. 390 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: She was credited with saving the lives of some I 391 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: think it's two fifty men and also forty planes that day. 392 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: Oh wow, I mean, that is pretty incredible story. But 393 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm curious, like, if if Smokey was such a cool 394 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: hand on the battlefield, how did that transition happen to 395 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: becoming a dog doing therapy type work. So pretty soon 396 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: after when adopted her, he came down with dangae fever, 397 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: which is horrible obviously, and he was sent to this 398 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: army hospital and a couple of days later his friends 399 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: came by his fellow soldiers and they brought Smokey to 400 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: visit him, and the nurses were just in love with 401 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: this little dog, like, you know, she's brave, she's tiny, 402 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: she's got a big personality. And so not only did 403 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 1: they cuddle her, but they took her around to all 404 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: the other wounded soldiers, and uh, you know, when when 405 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: he was there, saw how Smokey really changed the mood 406 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: in these rooms. These were these depressed and injured soldiers 407 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: who took turns holding her and penning her, and it 408 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: completely changed their outlook. So once when was well enough 409 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: to leave, he started taking Smoky or on to visit 410 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: other wounded soldiers. He even taught Smokey some pretty impressive 411 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: tricks to keep them entertained. While he was there. He 412 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: taught her how to walk a tight rope, how to 413 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,239 Speaker 1: ride this handmade scooter, and even how to spell her 414 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: own name. Wow, those are all impressive things. Although I'm curious, 415 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: what do you mean spell her own name? I guess 416 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: he'd call out the letters of her name one by one, 417 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: and she would go and pick out these big cutouts 418 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: of the letters with her mouth. So I guess she 419 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 1: was showing off in that way. That's pretty great, I mean, 420 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: even though I can do that part about the spelling 421 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: of the name. But but Smokey does sound like a 422 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: pretty wonderful dog. He definitely, And and as word of 423 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: her impact spread, you know, pretty soon all these other 424 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: owners of dogs will bringing their dogs around his therapy 425 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: dogs to recuperating soldiers. In fact, by seven, American civilians 426 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: had donated around seven hundred dogs to military hospitals around 427 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: the country. I saw that standard just floored by it, 428 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: you know, And and when and Smokey had a happy 429 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: ending to after the war. They kept right on touring 430 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: hospitals right up until Smokey retired at the age of 431 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: twelve and nineteen fifty five. And then she lead a quieter, 432 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: still peaceful life for two more years after that. All right, well, 433 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: for this last sement, I feel like we should focus 434 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: on a few dogs whose achievements were a little bit 435 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: more down to earth. But before we do that, let's 436 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: take one more quick break. Al right, well, so let's 437 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: talk about some dogs who have claims to fame that 438 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: won't make us second guess our own life choices. You know, 439 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: Pops Wup were the first to do you run of 440 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: the mill, classic dog type stuff. All right, well, I've 441 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: got one, So why don't we talk about the first 442 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: dog to win Best in Show, which you know should 443 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: make us feel okay because it's not really threatening to 444 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: us human types. And so surprisingly, this is actually something 445 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: I don't think we covered when we did that episode 446 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: on HOWD A Game of Dog Show. I don't know 447 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 1: how we left this one off. But you know, as 448 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: you might remember, Westminster Kennel Club held its first Dog 449 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: Show way back in eighteen seventy seven, but strangely, the 450 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: event didn't include a Best in Show until about forty 451 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: years later in nineteen oh seven, and the first dog 452 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: to win the award was this smooth coated Fox Terrier 453 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: named Warren Remedy. Such a great name, but don't let 454 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: the name fool you. Warren Remedy was actually a female dog. 455 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: So what was it about Warren that when the judge 456 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: is over, I mean her looks mango? As one reporter 457 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: wrote for The New York Tribune, quote, Warren Remedy is 458 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: practically true to type. She is tan marked with strong head, 459 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: keen expression, good outline and grand ribs. Yeah. I feel 460 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: like the grand ribs always do the trick. Yeah. It's 461 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: definitely the mark of a champion, for sure, and there's 462 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: no doubt that that's exactly what Warren was a three 463 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: time champion in fact, because not only did she earn 464 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: the first ever Best in Show awards, she went on 465 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 1: to win the title in the next two Westminster shows 466 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: as well, which of course makes her the oly three 467 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: time winner in the history of the competition. She is 468 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: Westminster's most winning is dog, And you know, we think 469 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: about how political the show has gotten in the years 470 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: since then. I feel like it's unlikely that Warren's ever 471 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: going to have anybody, you know, take that crown from her. 472 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: Good for her. And and speaking of dog shows, do 473 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: you know that they're actually the reason that dog biscuits 474 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: went mainstream back in the late eighteen hundreds. I did not, 475 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: And in fact, I don't think I've ever thought of 476 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: dog biscuits going mainstream. You never heard of like putting 477 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: your biscuits in beta, like, I don't think so. So 478 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: the first dog biscuits were invented in eighteen sixty by 479 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: this electrician named James Spratt, and prior to that, nobody 480 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 1: had really thought of food specifically for dogs. People just 481 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: fed dogs like the scraps and whatever was left over 482 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: from their own meals, and that all changed thanks to Spratt. 483 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: He created these meat fibrine dog cakes, that's what his 484 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: project was called. And uh, there was something he came 485 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: up with after noticing the way dogs gobbled up hardtack, 486 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: which is that stuff that sailors used to take with them. 487 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: It's supposedly taste horrible. But we're to Spratt's new products 488 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: spread and by the new York Times was actually heralding 489 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: it as the quote principal food of dog shows. That's 490 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: kind of a funny story about So where where are 491 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: we going on? This? Is this the first dog to 492 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: eat a dog biscuit? Pretty close? So sprats biscuits actually 493 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: had one shortcoming. Atlas Obscure says they were quote woefully 494 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: square in shape. And this is a big, you know, 495 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: difference from all the bone shaped biscuits are our dogs 496 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: get today. Alright, So so I still don't know exactly 497 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: where we're going to start. We're talking about the first 498 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: dog to ever eat a bone shaped biscuit, exactly. It's 499 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: a big deal and I feel like it should be celebrated. 500 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: But this is how it happened. So sometime in seven, 501 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: an organic chemist and inventor named Carlton Ellis received a 502 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: desperate plea for help from the local owner of a slaughterhouse. 503 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: And the owner was looking for this profitable way to 504 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: use all the waste milk his work produced, and he 505 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: had hoped Ellis could help him find one. So Ellis 506 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: took on the task, and, likely inspired by Spratt's famous 507 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: dog biscuits, he began experimenting with this biscuit of his own, 508 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: one made from milk, malt, grain, and a few other ingredients. 509 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: So he made a milk bone. Yeah, but not quite yet. 510 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: So at first Ellis baked the biscuits into what he 511 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: hoped would be this appealing round shape, but when he 512 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: tested the biscuits with his own pop, the dog wanted 513 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: nothing to do with him. So, as a professional chemist, 514 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: he was kind of baffled by this. Like he'd worked 515 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: on all these landmark products, including margarine, polyester paint remover, 516 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: and so he figured he should have been able to 517 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: mix up an appetizing treat. So rather than change the ingredients, 518 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: he just changed the shape of the biscuits. And this 519 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: is where he told Popular Science quote, I had some 520 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: more biscuits baked from the same stock, but in the 521 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: shape of a bone, and I found that my dog 522 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: manifested a tremendous interest in the bone shaped biscuit, which 523 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: is pretty great, But like, why would the dog care 524 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: what shape the biscuit was? So I have no idea. 525 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,479 Speaker 1: But after he hit upon this pleasing shape, Ellis partnered 526 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: with this company that started mass producing biscuits for him, 527 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: and they called him milk bone Biscuits. Which are famous now. 528 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: Then he sold the brand into Biscuit. But right up 529 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: until his death, Ellis couldn't quite put his finger on 530 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: why his dog liked the bone shaped biscuits so much, 531 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: and he actually once told this interviewer that his dog 532 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: Hauld either simply liked the design better or else. Quote 533 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: after shaping the biscuit in effort to cater to his taste, 534 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: he felt duty bound to fool his master by simulating 535 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: an interest in it. Sure, that's exactly what it was, 536 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: all right, Well, for this last one, I'm going to 537 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: sort of bend the rules a little bit because honestly, 538 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: I can't tell you who the first dog to catch 539 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: a frisbee was because it was about twenty years between 540 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: the products debut and the story that I wanted to share. 541 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: But when it comes to the official sport of dog frisbee, 542 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 1: there's no question that the first and best to ever 543 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: play was this pup named Ashley Whip It. So I 544 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: think I read about this when we were doing research 545 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: for our WAMMO episode. This is the dog with the 546 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: awesome nickname, right, Oh, it's a terrific nickname. The nickname 547 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: is the surest Jaws on all four paws and that 548 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: was coined by a writer in Sports Illustrated. So you know, 549 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: it seems like it's got to be true. But we 550 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: need to back up for just a minute to nineteen 551 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: four and this was when Ashley and his owner Alex 552 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: Stein actually stormed the offices of Wammo. So Stein and 553 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: witness firsthand how talented his dog was at catching frisbee, 554 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: and he wanted the toy company to bring Ashley on 555 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: is maybe like a mascot or something, but unfortunately Whammo 556 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: was not interested at this point. So Stein was trying 557 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: to figure out what else to do so that the 558 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: world could see how talented his dog was. So he 559 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: comes up with this idea to storm the field at 560 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: Dodger Stadium when the teams are you know, switching places 561 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: between innings. And so the game was about to resume 562 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: after the eighth inning and Stein ran onto the field 563 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: toss the frisbee forty yards out. Ashley then jumps this 564 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: three foot wall with ease and snare this disc out 565 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: of mid air. And actually, because the details of this 566 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: are are pretty great, I do want to read this description. 567 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: This was you know, from a friend Jake Rosen from 568 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: from mental floss. And here's what Jake says. He says, 569 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: with fifty thou people cheering in the stands and millions 570 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: watching at home, Ashley and Stein effectively invented the phenomenon 571 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: known as dog frisbee. The animals seemed to linger in 572 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: the air like Jordan's off the rim. His massively muscled 573 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: hind legs propelled him skyward, his body contorted like a 574 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: salamander swimming upstream, jaws gripping the disk. The outfielders set 575 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: down on the grass and watched the nearly eight minute performance. Finally, 576 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: Stein departed, jogging up the same stet of stairs. Security 577 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: was waiting near the top. They zip tied his wrists 578 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: and ushered him to a holding cell full of drunks 579 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: and eight track cassette thieves. But that isn't the end 580 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: of the story, right, No, it's definitely not. And things 581 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: actually started to look up for Stein and Ashley almost 582 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: immediately after this. In fact, even when they were still 583 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: in the holding tank. There at the stadium, the halftime 584 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: coordinator for the l A Rams was there and he 585 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: came to visit them. So he slipped his business card 586 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: through the bars and invited the d o to appear 587 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: at their next home game. Of course they decided to 588 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: do this, and after that they made two appearances on 589 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: merv Griffin and The Tonight Show. They went on to 590 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: perform at the White House even during the Super Bowl, 591 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: And of course all this got WHAMO to change their 592 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: tune on dog frisbee. And not only did they pay 593 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: that two and fifty dollar fine Stein and Curd for 594 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: trespassing on the baseball field, but they also co sponsored 595 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: the first annual Fearless Fido Frisbee Fetching Fracas, which is 596 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: just an amazing dog competition. But anyway, a year later, 597 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: the World Frisbee Championships began hosting a dedicated canine division 598 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: and it's the still running Ashley Whippett Invitational. So I 599 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: like that story a lot, and I think now that 600 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: we've made it to the end of the episode, it 601 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: actually means that Tristan and his dog associate just made history. 602 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: Well not so fascinating. We've still got a fact off 603 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: and you know, anything can happen during that. So let's 604 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: let's hold type just a little bit longer. Ye all right, Well, 605 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: I'll kick this off with the story about the first 606 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: dog to receive a rank in the American military, and 607 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: I love this story. So we're going back to World 608 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: War One and it was the hundred and second Infantries, 609 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,959 Speaker 1: twenty six Yankee Division, and they were in training at 610 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: Yale and there was the stray dog that just shows 611 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: up and starts hanging around. And the soldiers eventually start 612 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: taking a liking to this dog, so they nickname him Stubby, 613 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: and they teach him a few tricks, including how to 614 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: salute with his paw, just putting it over his eye, 615 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: and this would eventually come in handy. So when it 616 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: was time to ship out to France, they somehow managed 617 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: to smuggle Stubby with them, and as you might imagine, 618 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: the commanding officers were not thrilled when they discovered Stubby. 619 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: Later on, but before they have a chance to discipline anybody, 620 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: of course, the pup just pulls up his paw and 621 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 1: does the little salute stun and they decided to let 622 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: him stick around. I guess it's like a mascot for 623 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: the group, but it's actually pretty amazing because he was 624 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: much more than a mascot. You know. They trained the 625 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: dog to do so many different things. He learned to 626 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: sniff out chemical agents, and he would come back and 627 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: warn the soldiers, you know, when he would sniff these 628 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: things out. He learned how to help find wounded soldiers 629 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: so the paramedics could get to them. But you think 630 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: about everything that he did for them. It was because 631 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: of all these efforts that a hundred and second Infantry 632 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: actually promoted him to sergeant. And so by the end 633 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: of his service, Stubby had served in seventeen battles over 634 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: just an eighteen month period. That's pretty incredible. So I've 635 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: been reading all these stories about dogs, you know, saving 636 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: and helping people, but I really like the story about 637 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: how dogs are also getting involved with saving lives of 638 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: other animals. And this is in South Africa. You know, 639 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: poaching has been such a problem there for years, with 640 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: things like elephant tuss or whatever, and and to combat this, 641 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: they're now more than two d and ruleees in an 642 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: anti poaching and Canine Training academy, and these pups are 643 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: going to be trained and then mashed up with various 644 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: national parks. And the idea is that if there's this poacher, 645 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: that spotted arranger would strap one of these pups onto 646 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: their chest and then take a parachute on their back 647 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: and then float down to the area as quickly as 648 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: possible to stop the poacher. And the roll of the 649 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: dogs is to sniff out the criminals and and try 650 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: to catch them. And it's still early on in the program, 651 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: so it's not really in full effect, but it sounds 652 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: pretty spectacular. That is pretty interesting. So I always wondered 653 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: how dalmatians got associated with firehouses and decided to look 654 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: into this a little bit, and and I was surprised 655 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: to see that, you know, this one actually dates back 656 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: much further than I would have thought. So we're going 657 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: back to the early seventeen hundreds when Dalmatians were often 658 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: used to run alongside the carriages of English aristocrats. And 659 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, they tend to like running alongside horses anyway, 660 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: But in doing this, they would protect the horses from 661 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: other animals and keep them from getting spooked. And in fact, 662 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: it even became kind of a status symbol to have 663 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: even more Dalmatians around your carriage. So you know, over 664 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: time this carried over to accompanying the horse drawn wagons 665 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: that would transport the firefighters, and again, in doing this 666 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: they would help protect the horses and kind of keep 667 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: them calm. As they were approaching the fire, because horses 668 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: are often afraid of fire, and Dalmatians tend not to 669 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: be as afraid of anything for that matter. And so 670 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, the pups would stay back when they were 671 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: off to fight the fire, and they would guard the 672 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: wagon to make sure nobody stole equipment or anything else 673 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 1: on the wagon, including the horses. It's so funny. I've 674 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: always just kind of accepted that they're the mascot of 675 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: these firehouses, but it's great to hear the backstory. So 676 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: we've been reading a lot about self driving cars in 677 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: recent years, but one thing I hadn't read about was 678 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 1: a dog driven car. And this is from an animal 679 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: shelter in New Zealand. I came up with this idea 680 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: to show how smart their dogs were by training to 681 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: their pups, and the dog names are Porter and Monty, 682 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: and they taught them to drive a Mini Cooper, specifically 683 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: Mini Countrymen that was specially outfited for them. So the 684 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 1: dogs learned to start the engines, then use the gas 685 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: and brakes, and also steer and they actually became celebrities 686 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,479 Speaker 1: when one of their test drives was aired on TV 687 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: in New Zealand. Wow. Well, that's definitely amusing and impressive. 688 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: But I have to say I'm gonna want to up 689 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: you on this one, because while it is impressive to 690 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: think of a dog driving a car, I feel like 691 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: it's even more impressive to teach a dog how to 692 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: pilot a plane. Maybe a little bit scary, but also 693 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: impressive at the same time. And I don't know what 694 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: it is about New Zealand training dogs to drive stuff, 695 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: but this actually comes from New Zealand as well. So 696 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 1: there's an animal trainer and a zoologist named Mark Vett, 697 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: and he taught this group of dogs to fly. And 698 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: we're not just talking a few days of training. So 699 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 1: for some reason this went on for months. I actually 700 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: have no idea why they put this much into training 701 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 1: dogs to fly planes. But they were using in the 702 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: indoor flights simulator, and in order to teach them how 703 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 1: to pilot the plane, they'd use these different colored light signals, 704 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: so they would use blue to indicate they should go left, 705 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: they would use red for right, and white just meant 706 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: to keep going straight. And I guess for the heck 707 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: of it, they even taught them to do a figure eight, 708 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 1: which is terrifying to try to be in a plane 709 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: where a dog is doing a figure eight. But you know, 710 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 1: there's no word on a plan to actually do anything 711 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: with this training. But it did kind of make me 712 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: laugh to think about people one day getting on a 713 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: plane and looking in the cockpit and seeing a K 714 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: nine just like co piloting this plane and making the announcements, 715 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: which would probably be just as clear as hearing a 716 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 1: regular pilot's announcements over the intercomps. I love that those 717 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: dogs on my co pilot shirt actually makes sense. Yeah, exactly, 718 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: that's what the whole point is. So I actually had 719 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: a fact about a dog who pressed nine one one 720 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: to save a life, But this idea of dogs doing 721 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: loop to loops and figure eights in the sky, it's 722 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: just so good that I think you have to take 723 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: home with the trophy. Wow. Well, congratulations to Tristan's pup 724 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: for for really getting us through this episode. Let's hope 725 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 1: this one actually publishes, because we think he's the first 726 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: canine to have pulled off a podcast recording. But I 727 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: guess we'll see now. I know we've forgotten probably several 728 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: terrific facts about the history of dog first, so we 729 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: love to hear those from you. As as we always do. 730 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: You can email us part Time Genius and how Stuff 731 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,720 Speaker 1: Works dot com or hit us up on Facebook or Twitter. 732 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: But thanks so much for listening that all of our 733 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: listeners could see this, because it's a pretty adorable scene. Yeah. 734 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: I mean, this little guy keeps putting his paws up 735 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: on the soundboard and he's got Chris and McNeil does 736 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: the editing thing, but like this really focused look. It 737 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 1: seems like he actually Garry Roland does the exact producer 738 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: thing m and Eves Jeff Cook gets the show to 739 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: your ears. Good job, Eves. Oh this is not even 740 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: Tristan's dog? Do we do we forget Jason? Okay, all right, 741 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: well