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Speaker 1: UH summer calling this the signature series, UH the interview series.

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Speaker 1: I'm in here with my guest co host for this

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Speaker 1: interview the first time he's joining me on a on

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Speaker 1: a on an interview, So the first time I'm sort

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Speaker 1: of taking him out in public. Uh, Dean Collins's interviewing. Um,

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Speaker 1: the iconic uh influential, very influential Tom Green today. Hell yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's exciting for man, all right, why is it exciting

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Speaker 1: for you? So, so those of you who don't know

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Speaker 1: Tom Green, Dean, why don't you break down Tom Green?

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Speaker 1: Tom Green? Uh, he comes from the nineties MTV, MTV

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Speaker 1: that he had the Tom Green Show, which is enormously influential,

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Speaker 1: is on the and the Tom Green Show. Uh. He

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Speaker 1: one of the things that he did that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: his own thing. He he was sort of doing the

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Speaker 1: Zach Allifinnicki ship before Zach Galifani exactly. I mean road trip,

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Speaker 1: road trip, Freddy got fingered the whole Drew Barrymore thing,

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Speaker 1: and he's been just a sort of ahead of a

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Speaker 1: curve with technology, Like he had a web show way

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Speaker 1: before motherfucker. Now like everybody's got a web show, but

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Speaker 1: you were on his web show. I was on his

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Speaker 1: web show in his house like in two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 1: you know, And it was like, what the fuck? You know,

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Speaker 1: he just he's always sort of been a little bit

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Speaker 1: ahead of the curve. He had a little hiccup too

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Speaker 1: with I think he had testicular yea, he had testicular cancer.

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Speaker 1: And he documented the whole thing, and it was the

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Speaker 1: whole docuseries and and and and so we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: interviewing him. Uh, I don't know, you're dean. Dean. Here's

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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna recommend. You're gonna have questions. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: get excited, You're you, You're gonna want to get it.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get excited. You're gonna ask, Yeah you are,

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Speaker 1: but what what? What? What? What? But what I want

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Speaker 1: you to do is ask clean and concise questions. So

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Speaker 1: so pretend I'm Tom Green and and and ask the question.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna We're gonna do a test question right now. Okay, Um,

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Speaker 1: what was it like being on the set of Road

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Speaker 1: Trip that's the fucking question. That's the question you're gonna

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Speaker 1: That's not what I'm gonna ask him. You just said,

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Speaker 1: give you an example question. I want you to before

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Speaker 1: I'm in here for Tom Green with this might this might.

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Speaker 1: People think that Dean's my son, He's not. He's my

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Speaker 1: television is a collaborative thing, right, It's not about like

426
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Speaker 1: giving somebody an opportunity to go out and just do

427
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Speaker 1: whatever they fucking want, right, which is what I wanted

428
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: that show to be. And that's sort of what that

429
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: show was, right, I mean, you know, yeah, that's how

430
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 1: it came across. Yeah, it's not really I'm not really

431
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 1: like that anymore. I mean, I have my I get

432
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 1: my I think it's the reason why I do stand

433
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 1: up and why I do my podcast is because I

434
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: don't have anybody telling me what to do. And I

435
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 1: can go do what I want and then if I

436
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Speaker 1: go do a film or TV show, which occasion you

437
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 1: go do those things? Still, you know, I'm I'm I'm

438
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 1: happy to sit back and take direction and you know,

439
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 1: you know, be a team player and all that stuff.

440
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: It's not really it's not really. Uh, it's something that's

441
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 1: a different thing, but that at that time, at that

442
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 1: period of time in my life, it was about, you know,

443
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: protecting the integrity of this show. There's no other show

444
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 1: like it on TV. So what your influences? I felt

445
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 1: like we were kind of trying to create or invent something,

446
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Speaker 1: you know, were you aware that you like, sorry because

447
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 1: I took to like I threw a question at you,

448
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: But were you aware that like were you like, were

449
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Speaker 1: you like, just like, I'm trying to create this sort

450
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Speaker 1: of genre of comedy, this short design you were you

451
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 1: were that was sort of in your hand, it was

452
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 1: written up. We had like write ups, Like I had

453
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Speaker 1: like a you know, a treatment of the show that

454
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Speaker 1: explained exactly what we were trying to do, how it

455
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Speaker 1: was different, you know, how it was incorporating real people

456
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Speaker 1: into sketches. How you know, the reaction shot was the punchline,

457
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Speaker 1: Um you know, and uh, you know, teaching or camera

458
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Speaker 1: guys how to make sure that when you know, I'm

459
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: out in the street doing something crazy, don't film me.

460
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: You know, film the person that's watching me, because we

461
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: can always film me later. You can't get that shot

462
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Speaker 1: back a person watching me. You know. It was always

463
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Speaker 1: like this, uh, I always like this, uh you know

464
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: quote from uh John Cleese, he said, you know, it's

465
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: funny to watch somebody acting silly, but it's even funnier

466
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: to watch somebody watching someone act silly. So that was

467
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: sort of the mantra for the show was just kind

468
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: of go out, create a scene, get a reaction, film

469
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Speaker 1: the reaction, and um. And so that was that was

470
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Speaker 1: a big thing that when we started the show too,

471
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Speaker 1: you know what MTV was. We'd go out with our

472
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Speaker 1: camera and I, you know, the bit would be I'm

473
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Speaker 1: a security guard, right, I'm walking around and I'm all

474
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: crashing into stuff, you know, and we'd come back and

475
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Speaker 1: look at the footage and they just filmed me and

476
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Speaker 1: there was there wasn't the people in the background or

477
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Speaker 1: freaking out. They didn't get the shots. So but we

478
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Speaker 1: we eventually we eventually kind of got every one doing

479
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: doing what we We got a good crew together. It

480
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: was really cool and the Glory Days and MTV is

481
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: such a pilot ship now. It really it is like

482
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 1: I mean, music is a ship show in general content,

483
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, so from the Tom Green Show,

484
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: so many other people, like it's spawned Andy Millanakis and

485
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 1: Jackass and all those guys, Like I feel like it

486
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: was some crevo is so much to you, especially those

487
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: guys aren't on TV anymore either. But they shut the

488
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: whole thing, they shut the whole thing down. But you

489
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: were the you know, the first one to really to

490
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Speaker 1: do that. I'm not sure. I think I think we're

491
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Speaker 1: kind of in a weird time for television in general. Right.

492
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Speaker 1: It's a good time in some ways. There's a lot

493
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Speaker 1: of it. There's a lot a lot of television. There's

494
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Speaker 1: a lot of channels, there's a lot there's a lot

495
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Speaker 1: of networks. But I think it's probably hard to break

496
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Speaker 1: through and actually get that kind of you know, audience

497
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Speaker 1: that it was back when there was fewer channels. I agree,

498
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: I agree, which is sort of it's it's a good

499
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: thing for people who are actors and people that don't

500
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Speaker 1: want to make television because there's so many shows getting made,

501
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: but it's never I don't think if you put a

502
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: show on MTV now, you wouldn't have three million people

503
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Speaker 1: watching the show, like you know, yeah, you know the

504
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: first month that's on the air. And that just doesn't

505
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 1: seem to happen that much anymore so, and I hope

506
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Speaker 1: that television doesn't it doesn't blow itself up because there

507
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: is so many fucking channels. I mean, there's so many channels,

508
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,959
Speaker 1: there's so many networks, and there's so many good things,

509
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: but there's just I feel like it's like where's It's

510
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: like every day there's this channel, there's that channel, there's

511
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: Apple TV, there's channels within Apple TV, there's YouTube channels there.

512
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,479
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like you're still figuring it out.

513
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Speaker 1: But I just hope it doesn't, you know, like it

514
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Speaker 1: doesn't like the bubble doesn't burst. How was the transition

515
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Speaker 1: from going like going from The Tom Green Show to

516
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Speaker 1: doing movies? Were you was it more nerve racking knowing

517
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Speaker 1: that it was like, Okay, I have the set of lines,

518
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: like you know, I could improv do my thing, But

519
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Speaker 1: what was that like? It was? It was definitely, Uh,

520
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: it was pretty cool. I mean it was. It was

521
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Speaker 1: some some parts of it were nerve wracking, although I

522
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Speaker 1: get I get nervous about virtually everything pretty much. You know,

523
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Speaker 1: are you nervous right now? Uh? I mean a little bit,

524
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Speaker 1: A little bit. It's a good I mean, I don't

525
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Speaker 1: you know, I I don't know. I'm not I'm not

526
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: that nervous now because I'm very comfortable in this environment,

527
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: you know, podcast and stuff. But like when you know,

528
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: when I'm going on a show, like a talk show

529
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: with the audience. Yeah, usually when there's an audience involved,

530
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Speaker 1: there's that rush I get. I get that adrenaline rush,

531
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Speaker 1: I get those nerves um um. But no, I mean

532
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Speaker 1: back then it was maybe a little more nerve wracking

533
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Speaker 1: because I've never done any scripted things before. The first

534
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Speaker 1: movie was road Trip that I really did, and that

535
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: was kind of basically the first time I was in

536
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Speaker 1: a movie. I was in this movie Superstar, which will

537
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Speaker 1: fare all before that, just kind of a couple of lines.

538
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Speaker 1: My friend, one of the kids in the hall, was

539
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: directing at Bruce McCullough, and he had been watching my

540
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: cable show and put me in that movie before MTV.

541
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Speaker 1: That was sort of the first sort of eld show

542
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: business experience I had. We shot that movie up in Toronto,

543
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: but I really I think I had two lines in

544
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: the movie, so I didn't really have to worry about

545
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: memory memorizing lines or anything. But Todd Phillips directed A

546
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Speaker 1: Road Trip and he uh was a fan of the

547
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Speaker 1: Tom Green Show, and he put me in these um

548
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: PEPSI one commercials that ran during the n C Double

549
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: A basketball Tournament March Madness, uh, during the first season

550
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: of MTV, during the first few months of the MTV Show,

551
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: and that that's kind of how I met Todd. And

552
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: then I ended up doing that Road Trip movie and

553
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: that was fun. I mean, I wasn't supposed to stick

554
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: the mouse in my mouth, That's what I was gonna ask.

555
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: That wasn't in the script. I'm supposed to feed the

556
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: mouse to the snake. But then I put the mouse

557
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: in my mouth when the cameras rolling. When the cameras rolling,

558
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: I was dangling the mouse above my mouth and it's

559
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: sort of it felt it sort of grabbed my lip

560
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: with this little paw, so I just lowered it and

561
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: it sort of voluntarily walked into my mouth. I mean,

562
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: that was a jaw dropping scene, and so I would

563
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: fucking yo, I don't I like animals. I I don't.

564
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't like dead animals. There was a fucking dead

565
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: rat right over there. I wouldn't dead. I mean, I

566
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't have put a dead mouse in my mouth. But

567
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: this was live and it was there was one take.

568
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: Did you only do one? Well? So then after we

569
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: did it, I had twenty more times. Yeah, and the

570
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: mouse enjoyed it. Really it did every time. It was

571
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: very relaxed in there. I could tell because it urinated,

572
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: so you know, it was certainly not nervous. Yo. That

573
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,719
Speaker 1: is fucking How much of that was improv like not

574
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: just that scene, the whole movie, Oh, the whole movie

575
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: with with all of your stuff? Not not too much,

576
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: not too much. I wrote the song. I wrote the song,

577
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: the tiny Salmon Swimming in the stream song. I wrote

578
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: that like on set right before we did it. It

579
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: feels like your whole performance was just all of it was.

580
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 1: It just felt like it was a lot of it

581
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: was pretty pretty scripted, though a lot of it was.

582
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Speaker 1: I was the tour the I think the first couple

583
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: of days I didn't really realize how structured things were

584
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: in films because I was definitely improvising too much, and

585
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: then you know, Todd would be kind of like, okay,

586
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: we kind of gotta tell the story now, you know.

587
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: But it was it was cool. I was a fun

588
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: one for sure. Yeah, But then I guess the one

589
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: that really this time was you know, one of these

590
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: surreal times that's sort of probably once in a lifetime

591
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: kind of things that happened where you got a hit

592
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: show and MTV and all of a sudden people were

593
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: asking me to do movies. So I thought, wow, this

594
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: is crazy. And we had this sort of attitude at

595
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: the time where we wanted to kind of do things

596
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: and make everything insane, right, And the movies were not insane.

597
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: They were normal movies, normal comedy movies, funny but not insane.

598
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: And so you know, I sat down with my friend

599
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: and we wrote this Freddie got fingered because we wanted

600
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: it to make something that was insane, and we did that,

601
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: and um, I don't know, sometimes I wonder, you know,

602
00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: what would have happened if I just did all this

603
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: sort of normal, funny movies that we were getting offered.

604
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: Maybe I'd still be making a lot more movies. But

605
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: but but we have this huge cult following for Freddy

606
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: Got Finger. That's that's pretty cool. And people love the movie,

607
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: So I'm happy Freddy Got Fingered and road Trip like

608
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: those are those are fucking kind of classics. Yeah, Freddy

609
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: Got Finger is a weird one, that's for sure. People

610
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: people like know the lines when I do stand up now,

611
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: I sometimes end my show with asking people to yell

612
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: at their favorite line and whether I'm going to Australia

613
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,239
Speaker 1: next month again or wherever I you know, I've been

614
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: there a few times, and people know all the lines

615
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: of that movie. And it comes like this crazy, like rockery,

616
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: rocky horror picture show kind of thing. Shout, just everyone show.

617
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: At the end of the show, I got everyone, and

618
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: then I reenact the whole movie for people, the whole thing.

619
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Speaker 1: Are you enjoying doing stand up? I love it? Yeah, Yeah,

620
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, it's it's I did stand up

621
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Speaker 1: before all that stuff. I did stand up when I

622
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: was you. I did stand up when I was like

623
00:30:54,920 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: a teenager, um before the public Access show and in Anada,

624
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: and then UH started doing it again about ten years ago,

625
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: and UH been basically touring NonStop and uh it's It's

626
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: was the best decision I've ever made, I think to

627
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: go back and start doing that because because I have, like,

628
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: first of all, I have this great audience all around

629
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: the country and Canada and the US and in Australia

630
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: and in England, and I can go do shows and

631
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: make a living and do what I love to do

632
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: and nobody's really telling me what to do. So that's

633
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: that's that's one nice aspect of it. I mean. The

634
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: main thing though, really is it's just it's so uh

635
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: um cathartic to be able to get up on stage

636
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: you know, five or six times a week for an hour.

637
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: Is that how long you do it? Yeah? And I

638
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: just kind of like can talk about whatever is pissing

639
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: me off and hopefully try to make it funny. We'll

640
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: make it funny, you know. And uh and I think

641
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: the older you get, you know, I'm forty four years

642
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: old now, so like there's a lot more stuff that's

643
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: pissing me off. R Now. I was pretty piste off before,

644
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: but now it's just like, you know, it's nice to

645
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: be able to get up and just rant about things

646
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: that you just find ridiculous. You know, what are some

647
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: of your recent pissing like rants, things that piste you off,

648
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: like things that you've been zealing well very recently, like

649
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm like very recently, Like lately I've been I've been

650
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: talking a little bit more about my personal life because

651
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: it's sort of a mess. My personal life is a

652
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: complete well you know, like I just you know, I

653
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: just recently another girlfriend and I just broke up. You know,

654
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: before we broke up, I was with this other girl

655
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: that thank you, I'll have another drink, thank you, thank

656
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: you very much. Yeah, good time for a drink. Um.

657
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: Uh yeah. So you know it's talk a bit about relationships.

658
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: How ridiculous that gets? How just how and you know

659
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: I was going out with this girl. She would like

660
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: throw a glass of red wine in my face over,

661
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:05,719
Speaker 1: wablic over whenever she was sort of angry about something,

662
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: she would throw a glass of red wine in my face,

663
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: the wine or the glass and just the wine. Like

664
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: what what's the story one of the times she threw

665
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: glass in your and and it wasn't It was a

666
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: brilliant strategy, by the way on her part. Like if

667
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: you're in a disagreement with somebody and you you're in public,

668
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: and you throw a glass of wine in their face

669
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: and then and then run away. You look like, of

670
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,959
Speaker 1: course you look like the as everyone's looking at you, like, oh,

671
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: that guy's an asshole. You must have done something, you

672
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: must have done something wrong. You're wet, you're stained red

673
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: wine all of your thing. It's like, And so this

674
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: was starting to happen very regularly. Are you probably not

675
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: gonna work out how many? Like after the first time,

676
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: you weren't like that? Never I thought, Okay, maybe I

677
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: did something wrong, maybe I said something wrong. Do you

678
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: remember what caused the first or second time, or any

679
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: of the time. I've never had happened to me. And

680
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: I'm a motherfucker, And which is ordering the red one?

681
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: I would have been like, you're not fucking ordering red?

682
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: Oh no, I mean it got bad. I was literally

683
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: planning my evenings. I'd be wearing like burgundy sweatshirts. I

684
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: couldn't tell the difference I was. I was, you know.

685
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: So I talked about that. I talked a lot about

686
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: technology and my stand up and talk a lot about

687
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: like I've been talking about this for a few years

688
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: now and expanding on it, just about how we're all

689
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: addicted to our Facebook pages and our cell phones, and

690
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: our text we can't stop texting. We're always on Twitter,

691
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: and we're always we're all and you go out with

692
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: people now and everybody's on I was. I was at

693
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: l Compadre a few uh weeks ago, and I'm sitting

694
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: there with my friend and I looked around the room.

695
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: There's maybe fifteen other people in. It was at lunchtimes

696
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: maybe you know restaurants half full. There was maybe people there.

697
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: Every single person in the entire restaurant was was texting,

698
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: looking at the phone. It was silent. Nobody was talking.

699
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: We were in a nice restaurant. Nobody was talking. Everyone

700
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: was just sitting there like robots on their phone. And

701
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: that really annoys me. You know, being forty four years old,

702
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: you know, you you don't probably remember what the world

703
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: was like before cell phones. Probably twenty five claim to

704
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: know what the world nothing. Listen, I got a cell phone, yeah,

705
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: and it was exactly So that's exactly what I'm that's

706
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: exactly honestly, that is exactly my point. In ninth grade,

707
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: you had a cell phone. I didn't get self until

708
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: I was twenty eight. Okay, now it's like seven years

709
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: all the way through high school without a cell to

710
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: you know I I you would walk to school, you'd

711
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: be alone. Nobody could get ahold of you. It would

712
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: just more your thoughts, your fear thoughts, your your your

713
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: your perversions, everything. It was a relaxed world. You had freedom,

714
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: You had freedom to go and do things. Now everybody

715
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: always can talk to you. Whenever you're anywhere, At any moment,

716
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 1: some bad news could come in. You're always on edge.

717
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: You always know that the moment this thing in your

718
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: pocket could deliver some bad news. Or you might have

719
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: a great stroke of brilliance that you have to tweet

720
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: out because I have strokes of brilliance, Like I mean,

721
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: it's like I gotta get them out exactly before. You

722
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: just think about it. You know it was great, and

723
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 1: then you forget about it and you would never tweet

724
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: it up and it was nice you so you that

725
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: annoys you. But how often are you on your phone? Oh?

726
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: A lot? But I I but I'm aware of it now,

727
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: and I make an effort to leave it at home,

728
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: and then you go to lunch and you see it,

729
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: and then it's like a whole other world. I don't

730
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: leave it at home, but I turn it off a lot,

731
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: all right, I don't check it a lot. I'm always

732
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: very conscious of when I'm with people not to check

733
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: my phone, unlike most people like that. Most people when

734
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm with people, they're always on their phone, and I

735
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: I actually like feel sometimes like it's disrespectful, you know,

736
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 1: when you're out with people. To start, He's like, Okay,

737
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: I thought we were having our time together. It's bad.

738
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: I thought we were hanging out together. Who are you

739
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: talking to now? Who are you talking to now? Why

740
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: are you talking to some buddy? Were I took time

741
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: out of my day to hang out with you and

742
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: now you're talking to everybody else? And then you gotta

743
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: repeat yourself. They didn't hear it. Yeah, it's like I'm

744
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: not saying I'm fucked up about it too. I'm all

745
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: cracked out on my ship. It's like an epidemic. It's

746
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: fucking It's bad. And I have I have. I I

747
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: have a lot of sort of u sort of scenarios

748
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 1: that I paint my stand up about relationships and how

749
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: like Instagram and Facebook is just annoying when you're in

750
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: a relationship, and I'll i'll sort of dissect people's relationships

751
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: and married couples in the front row on my show.

752
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: Do a lot of crowd work with people. Yeah, it's fun,

753
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: It's that's cool, It's really fun. I want people to

754
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: leave the show thinking like, Okay, we laughed a lot,

755
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: we had a good time. Everything he said was was

756
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: funny and true, but also maybe think you know what

757
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna like, you know, turn my fucking phone

758
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: off once in a while. Right, I'm gonna go take

759
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: a walk with my phone off like that. Are you

760
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: going to be performing in l A anytime soon? I

761
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: will be out, but I'm I'm I'm on the road

762
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: the next couple of months. You're going to Australia, going

763
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: Australian March for how for three weeks all over Australia,

764
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: all over Australia. I'll do a couple of comedy festivals

765
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: in Melbourne and the broads and the Broads. I've never

766
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: been to us, but I've heard the women are beautiful

767
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: and and and just sort of open. Yeah, is that real? Yeah,

768
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 1: it's like Canada with palm trees Canada that Yeah. Absolutely,

769
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: What are you gonna be like it every day? A

770
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: show every day? Or do you act? Do you get

771
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: some downtime to like pretty much a show every day. Yeah,

772
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: I got a couple of days off here and there,

773
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: the travel days because I gotta go to different cities.

774
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: But you know, it's just one show a day, so

775
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: it's nice to get the whole day off to hang

776
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: out and you go do a show. And I play

777
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: these uh nice theaters in Melbourne and Sydney or it's

778
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: there's these big comedy festivals there, so I'll go do

779
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: six nights in a row at a comedy festival in Melbourne.

780
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,479
Speaker 1: This really nice theater and like how many how many

781
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: seats are like these theaters? Uh? And uh they're both

782
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: they're both thousand seats, eight hundred seats. That's nice. Is

783
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: there a specific place where it just doesn't translate to people,

784
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: like have you experienced that where you're like, funk, this

785
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 1: is just that's a good question. Sometimes not not not

786
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: not not no The answers no, but which was a

787
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: surprise to me because I was sort of the first

788
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: time I went there, I thought, jeez, I hope they

789
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: you know, understand my accent or know what I'm talking about,

790
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: or but you'll notice the first night when you're there

791
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: doing your first show that there will be certain jokes

792
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: that just will fall flat. And then you realize, oh,

793
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: they have no cultural reference towards what Sears is. You know,

794
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: they don't know what they don't know what the Sears catalogs,

795
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: you know, or or they or if you refer to like, uh,

796
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: you know, white out, they go, you know, like you

797
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: or you don't even know what white what is white out?

798
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: Why does fucking the white ship that you put over

799
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: an area on your paper when you had to do that,

800
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: when you had to do that back before you were born,

801
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: they had stuffed. So anyway, if you're on a came out,

802
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: what year to Roat trip come out? Uh? Two thousand?

803
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: So I was ten years old and I remember when

804
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: that came out to me. My friends at camp we

805
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 1: were like, holy ship. We like I remember my friends

806
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: at camp snuck a copy of Freddie got Fingered in

807
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: their bag and we had a portable DVD player. It

808
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: was like that and we would watch it and and

809
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: they like took it away from us. It was absolutely yeah,

810
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: so so Tom when so so when we who are

811
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: your who are your guys? Like? Because one of the

812
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: what's the guy's name? Because I I want to ask

813
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: you about the letterman? But Letterman's guy that was on

814
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: there for years, Christopher no Um, Chris Elliott, Chris Elliott

815
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: because because like that, I was just thinking, like and

816
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: obviously Andy Kaufman sort of was, you know, bridging that,

817
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: like what's going on? Is this real? Like who were

818
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: the people like you looked up to an admired you

819
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: know that that you know sort of influenced that style

820
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: that you that you had. Well, Letterman was was just

821
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: the whole Letterman Show was probably the biggest sort of

822
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: influence in the sense that I mean the whole show

823
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: was modeled after that, you know, I mean not not

824
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: as much. You know, our pranks and things were completely different.

825
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: But he would go out in the street. When he

826
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: would go out in the street and do stuff when

827
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: he yelled out the window and his megaphone, or or

828
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: deliver a fruit basket over to to the you know,

829
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: the head of the g or whatever, and getting getting

830
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: arguments with security guards when he would get in arguments

831
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: with his guests. All of that, like TV gone wrong

832
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: stuff was something that was hugely you know, exciting to me.

833
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: You know, when when Late Night with David Letterman came on,

834
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: that was like the first time I remember ever sort

835
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: of seeing that where it was like, you know, you've

836
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 1: been watching Johnny Carson with your parents your whole life,

837
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden there was a guy that

838
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: was at a desk kind of like Johnny Carson, except

839
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: he was sucking around right like he was like, you know,

840
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: doing stuff that sort of seemed like things were going wrong.

841
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 1: Madonna called him an asshole, like crap, someone said asshole,

842
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: and it was you know, Crispin Glover tried to kick him,

843
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: came back, and I'm not sure that Letterman liked that

844
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: bit so much, but it was to me that was like,

845
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: this was one of the great moments of the show,

846
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: you know, when things would go wrong, you know, um,

847
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: did you need the Andy Kaufman thing like live or

848
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: you know, know that the Andy Kaufman stuff. I kind

849
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: of found out about Andy Kaufman later actually, which was

850
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was just something that I

851
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I knew him as as from Taxi, but

852
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: I really I really didn't know the whole mythology until

853
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 1: A Man in the Moon came out, which was bizarre

854
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: because I was actually, uh, you know, basically when that

855
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: movie came out, I was in the hospital with answer myself.

856
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: At the exact same time the Man in the Moon

857
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: came out and people are saying, hey, is this like

858
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: an Andy Kaufman thing? You know, are you pretending to

859
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: have cancer all this guy? But yeah, yeah, yeah it was.

860
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: It was a lot of weird stuff there. But I

861
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: love Andy Kaufman now that I've gone and watched everything

862
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: that he did. And but it was like Letterman, it

863
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: was Monty Python, it was it was s C to

864
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: t V, Saturday Night Live, a lot of the things

865
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: that like that. And then you know skateboard videos, skateboarding videos,

866
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: and you know hip hop music and independent music. You know,

867
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: I was a college radio show. I did a radio

868
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: show in a college radio station. And you know when

869
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: I was a teenager, were you playing hip hop? Playing

870
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: hip hop? Did you see there's a documentary? I saw

871
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: your movie. I love your movie. No, not mine. We've

872
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: talked about before, though, I know I love your movie.

873
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: There's rhymes in life, right, thank you? But did you

874
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: there's a doctor? You should check out my favorite album

875
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: of all time, low End Theory. It's a good album.

876
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: Um Stretching Barbato music that changed lives about the stretching

877
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: Barbido Stretching Armstrong, Barbiito Garcia show that they did at

878
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: a Columbia University. You should peep it. Fucking love it.

879
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: And because their show was sort of on the cusp

880
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: of everything that was going on in New York, and

881
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 1: it was, you know, sort of a younger version of

882
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: what the Night Younger. It was just it was just

883
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: another version of stuff that was going on in New York.

884
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: And it was a uh, you know, a breakthrough radio show.

885
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: And they did it out of Clumby. You're gonna gave

886
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: me goose bumps watching it, like it brought back all

887
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: the memories. They were like, really really into rap music?

888
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: How are you getting it up there? And and and see,

889
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 1: the thing is is, you know we were goofy Canadian kids,

890
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: right and uh, you know, with our Canadian accents and

891
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: our you know, zero street credibility, but we love the music.

892
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: And you know, there was an indie record store up

893
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: there that we go to and get you know, vinyl

894
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: and cassettes and we'd get like you know, the old

895
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: you know it really it really to me, it was

896
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: you know, it was I mean, I mean the first

897
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 1: time I heard a rap song was a rap song

898
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: was sugar Hill Gang Rappers to Light. I remember just

899
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: I had it on a cassette. I had it on

900
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: a compilation cassette and just listened to that old game compilation.

901
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: It was it was just it was just like our

902
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: Top forty compilation, but that one song was on it.

903
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: Of course the first time I've ever heard anything like it.

904
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: And I just listened to that song for a year.

905
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: But they weren't playing that on the radio in Canada.

906
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 1: Was none of that stuff. It wasn't until maybe, uh

907
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: really the first year of high school that you know,

908
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: like there was other kids listening to you know, Rundy MC,

909
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: Beastie Boys. You know. It was really that's when we

910
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: were Public Enemy. Was when we knew, okay, this is

911
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: this is really you know, this is really like something

912
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: different now when we started listen when I started listening

913
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: to Public Enemy because run DMC was still playing on

914
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: the radio, you know, that was that was mainstream at

915
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: that point, right, you know, walk this way. It was mainstream.

916
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: But that was huge. But then you know, nobody knew

917
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: what you know, nobody in my high school knew what

918
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: Public Enemy was. They weren't listening to Public Enemy. They

919
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: weren't listening to Boogie Down Production or gang Star, you know,

920
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: and uh, and we sort of discovered this world and

921
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 1: just really kind of got into it. I started making music.

922
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: I started making beats. I got into like samplers, did

923
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: you really? Yeah? I got like a kai samplers and

924
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: drum machines and keyboards and all this stuff, and really

925
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: kind of got into trying to make music and basically

926
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: made this this this uh started making music. And when

927
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: I was when I was sixteen years old, we met

928
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: this guy in Ottawa who was American guy from Atlanta.

929
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: Huh uh. He had his brother, his brother boogie in

930
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: New York. Was it boogie or boogie? Because you said

931
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: boogie down Productions? And I think it's just your acts.

932
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: Was it b o o G? I e boogie? So

933
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: I say boogie? You say yeah, I say it wrong.

934
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: I say Canadian. I know I meant boogie the not boogie.

935
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: Not no disrespect because you didn't even say booger boog

936
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: not booger, but it sounds It's just it's just a

937
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: Canadian pasta taco taco. We got clamado in Canada. We

938
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: make Caesars, you make Bloody Mary's with tomato juice. You know,

939
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: it's there's so many differences. But so Boogie Book from Atlanta. Yeah, yeah.

940
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: So he had a recording studio in New York and

941
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: when I was sixteen, he brought us to New York

942
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: to record a demo. So we got to New York

943
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: and we stayed at his place for like five weeks,

944
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: oh and recorded and uh, you know, sometimes he'd leave

945
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: for days at a time, would just be at his house,

946
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: like hanging out. Hanging out in New York City, sixteen

947
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: years old. I can't believe our parents let us go,

948
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: but they let us go down there and do this.

949
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: And he had a cousin who lived in Brooklyn and

950
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: in Brownsville, and we went to Brownsville and we shot

951
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: a music video the fuck At I was sixteen years old,

952
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: and I remember that it was because Brownsville, that's where

953
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: I grew up. My best friend browns I have a

954
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: you know, tough part of the don and it was

955
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: I remember that. It was it was, you know, we

956
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 1: were like these you know goofy you know, white Canadian

957
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: kids from Ottawa. The US have been like what the fun?

958
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: We rolled into Brownsville and uh, and we took out

959
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: some speakers. We set up our speakers and we just

960
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: started wrapping the song and everyone crowded around, came around,

961
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: came out of the all the projects came out and

962
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: started hanging with us and ship dancing. Everyone was dancing.

963
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: Was totally this totally amazing video which I have on

964
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: a VHS tape somewhere. It's not on not on YouTube

965
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: or anything, and I have to go find it out. Yeah,

966
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: we gotta premier it here somehow we need like, yeah,

967
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: I need somehow, I gotta it exists. It does exist

968
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: in a cardboard box somewhere, in a storage space over

969
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: in a burbank somewhere. So you could have taken So

970
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: why didn't you take the music path? Like were you?

971
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: Were you serious enough to be like I want to do.

972
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: So we got a record deal in Canada and uh,

973
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: this is straight hip hop. It was you know, it

974
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: was us trying to do it was us trying to

975
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: be like you know, we were trying to do our

976
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: version of the Beastie Boys. We just weren't, you know,

977
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 1: as good as the Beastie Boys, right, but we wanted

978
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: to be though. We had we had the we had

979
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: the desire to be as good as the Beast Boys.

980
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: You know, um, you know I like making the beats,

981
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: but you know, um, but we had a we had

982
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: a single that came out in Canada in one and

983
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: uh we got nominated for an award in Canada, Juno Award,

984
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: which is like a Grammy. And then then you know,

985
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: we did one record, didn't sell enough, records, got dropped

986
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: from the record label. I went back to school and

987
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: studied broadcasting and started the TV show History. You should

988
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: incorporate that on your shows, whoever you were doing. That's

989
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: rights of the music, the music back. But that was

990
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: a little bit sillier than what we were doing, right,

991
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: But the group was the rap group was always had

992
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: its comedic elements. You know. It was like we would like, uh,

993
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: I always tried to make it really weird. So we

994
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: kind of got a little conflict with the band when

995
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 1: the band was coming out because you know, we'd always

996
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: been doing really weird ship on stage, like we we

997
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: do two songs and then some you know, bad industrial

998
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: music that I made would kick in and we'd all

999
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: put laundry baskets on our heads and just like start

1000
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: rotating slowly for like three minutes in front of the

1001
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: audience the show we opened for Third Base at at UM. Yeah.

1002
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if they even know this, because they

1003
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: had this group called the Dream Warriors from Canada open

1004
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 1: for them, and we went down to Rutgers New Brunswick,

1005
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: New Jersey. We drove down there to open for Third Base.

1006
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 1: Never met Third Base. But I don't think they even

1007
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: know this happened, actually because they would probably appreciate it.

1008
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: This was years before I was on MTV and we

1009
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: were opening. We were opening for their opening act. So

1010
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: their opening act was the Dream Warriors from Canada and

1011
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: uh so we went down and uh did like three

1012
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: songs in front of their crowd, and it was it

1013
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: went over pretty good. I'm not I think the laundry

1014
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: baskets confused them a little bit though. The crowd was

1015
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: a little confused by the laundry basket moment, which was

1016
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: very enjoyable to me because you know, we'd be wrapping

1017
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: everyone be kind of like, oh, these kids in Canada,

1018
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: this is pretty cool, and then all of a sudden,

1019
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: we break out the laundry baskets and like you could tell,

1020
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: like the audience you know it was this was this

1021
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: was a hip hop crowd, right, because this was like

1022
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: this was maybe nine one something like that. This these

1023
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: were this was a crowd that took their hip hop

1024
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: seriously Rutgers University, New Jersey, and they were there to

1025
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: see third base and um, and then all of a

1026
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: sudden we got laundry baskets on our heads. But I

1027
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: don't think they were really quite able to like hate

1028
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: on it because it's just too fucking weird. So I

1029
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: think it actually went over pretty well. It was pretty funny.

1030
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: So since you said you made you made beats, who

1031
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 1: would you say your top three hip hop producers? Your favorite?

1032
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: And I know it's interchangeable and if you want to

1033
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: do five, you could do that. Um, you know like

1034
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: the sounds at producersducers, Uh let's see, well, uh Premier

1035
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: Premier of course, like like his Gang Star. Yeah, absolutely,

1036
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: many many others, the Bomb Squad just because it was

1037
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: so groundbreaking at the time. Absolutely, you know those sounds,

1038
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: all those sounds that they had and there they were,

1039
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: they were doing it. You just sort of couldn't really

1040
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: remember when you when when you're when I heard Public

1041
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: Enemy for the first time, you know, you're sort of like, wow,

1042
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: what are all those sounds? Yeah, how are they doing that? Yeah?

1043
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: That was amazing, And I would say, actually, a friend

1044
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: of mine who is And I'm not just saying this

1045
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: because he's a friend of mine, he's he's he's probably

1046
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: a friend of mine because he was. One of my

1047
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: favorite producers is uh Mike Simpson from the Dust Brothers Okay,

1048
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: Paul's Boutique Okay, which I think is a groundbreaking Uh

1049
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: everybody considers that such a groundbreaking album for sampling and everything.

1050
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: I mean, they killed it. So yeah, those would be

1051
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: my my three favorites. And then MC's who's your top

1052
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: top top five? Top five? Top five? I saw Chris

1053
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: Rock at the at a thing recently and I um,

1054
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: and it was that Saturday night Live party that they

1055
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: had this year party and it was just a surreal

1056
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: That was a surreal thing. I'm sure that Chris Rock

1057
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: was there, and I you know, walked up to him

1058
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: and I said, I want to give you my top five, right,

1059
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: So I felt pretty cool about that my top five.

1060
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,479
Speaker 1: So here's my top five. I have a top five.

1061
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: Give it to me in no particular or no particular order, Okay, Well,

1062
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: Public Enemy Beastie Boys, Eric B and rock Ham Yep,

1063
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: thirtieth anniversary of Eric B for President the other day

1064
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: fucked my head up so old. That tripped me out

1065
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: because that that song was like, yeah, it's still such

1066
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: a unique one of a kind that the pace of

1067
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: it is slow. And also, I mean when it came out,

1068
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: but I was like, damn man, thirty years ago that

1069
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: ship came out, it's still every time it comes on.

1070
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm just that was the first time I remember somebody

1071
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: rapping like that cool, you know, like they weren't like

1072
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 1: yelling like laid back. He just slowed the whole thing. Now,

1073
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 1: that was that was a whole new sound. So yeah,

1074
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: Eric rockem public enemy Beastie Boys tribe called Quests and

1075
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: uh yeah, this is the hard part because you'll, you'll

1076
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: you want to pick the right one in a changeable

1077
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: you know, it could you could be on the drive home,

1078
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 1: you could say it could be a different five. I'm

1079
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: not going to judge you. Everybody's never I was never

1080
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: into as much like I know a lot of people

1081
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: would say Tupac. I was never really into the West

1082
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: Coast style as much, even though I like to tupac

1083
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: um Biggie. I like Biggie, but sort of like, you know,

1084
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 1: a little more modern than maybe what I would say,

1085
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: you know, because I was sort of more into it

1086
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: back when I was, um, so let's say, Run DMC,

1087
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: they're fucking we we we were a very similar list

1088
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: because because not only you know, they were like, you know,

1089
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: they changed, they almost created it in a lot of ways. Yes,

1090
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: you know that you got to kind of give them,

1091
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: I mean and at the time, at the time, yeah,

1092
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: I was probably more excited about Run DMC than any

1093
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: of any of them because it was the first one

1094
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,479
Speaker 1: that I really got into and they were so good

1095
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: and and and and the style and the song making.

1096
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: They made great songs and and and the flow and

1097
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: then the whole presentation with the hats and the Adidas

1098
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: and the you know, the shoelist ship and the leather

1099
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: jackets and then you know, and they I mean they

1100
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: each one of them, Jam Mass j Be in the

1101
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: center and then Running d m C as m C s.

1102
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: They were just like it was just like a fucking supergroup,

1103
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: you know when you look back on like the talent

1104
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: level was like Running d MC, we're both just and

1105
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: it just was and then they brought it. It was

1106
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 1: they were just so influential, and they brought in the

1107
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: rock and the Rick Rubin, and I mean they just

1108
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: everything for me is like it goes back to when

1109
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: you first discovered something, how amazing it was to you,

1110
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: and the feeling that you got from music when you

1111
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: were first discovering things. So I find it hard to

1112
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: like really get into Like for for me, I just

1113
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I'm forty four years old, and

1114
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: I start saying things like I used to hear my

1115
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: parents say, like all the music is just not like

1116
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: it used to be. But I think a lot of

1117
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 1: it has got to do with just when you first

1118
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: like when you're a teenager and you're discovering all of

1119
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: these things for the first time, not just music, Like

1120
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: you're getting laid for the first time, you're drinking for

1121
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: the first time, you're partying for the first time, you're

1122
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: experiencing some freedom for the very first time, and you're

1123
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: discovering music for the first time, and you're you're really

1124
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: connecting with music on such a deeper level at that

1125
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: age because they're wrapping about stuff or singing about stuff

1126
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 1: that's that's meaningful to you. All these new things girls,

1127
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: you know, partying fun, you know, you know people we

1128
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: yeah killing yeah, and when you're you know, and then

1129
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: then once because I do that and I did that

1130
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: like shooting motherfucker's left and right right, Yeah, I would,

1131
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: I presume. So yeah, you know, I know, I I

1132
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: know what you mean. I know. But what concerns me

1133
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: about hip hop in general is is that because of technology,

1134
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: Uh now, anyone could wrap and you could put out

1135
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: songs so instantaneously and and and uh you know, even

1136
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: like the disc records and all that ship, Like when

1137
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: Nas did Ether, like that was like, yo, this is

1138
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: this is life for death. When he took on jay Z,

1139
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: it was like life for death. When l L was

1140
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: going at komol D, it was life or death. You had.

1141
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: You know, there was no I'm gonna put one out, Okay,

1142
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: this didn't work, I'll put another one out, you know,

1143
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: and and and it just was you know, like when

1144
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: you had a record deal, like even for you you

1145
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: had like like it's like you had to do all

1146
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: this ship to get the record deal and then you know,

1147
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: all this ship to do the single and studio costa

1148
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: you know money, you know that time tapers and you

1149
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: had to go in there with your ship written and

1150
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: you like you couldn't funk around. Um, so I just

1151
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: I get concerned about the music, the musicality and the craftsmanship,

1152
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: like you talk about Premier and we talked about Tribe

1153
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: and you know, all all the people, all the regular

1154
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: cast of characters, like it was a life and death

1155
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: quality to it, you know what I mean. Like everything's

1156
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: like that now, video editing, you know, like you got

1157
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: your lap the laptop computer now or an iPhone has

1158
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: all of these preset apps in them. Now it's basically

1159
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: automatically do what required a genius and an entire lifetimes

1160
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: of work and skill to the touch of a button.

1161
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: You know. If you're a photographer, well great, it must

1162
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: be nice to have spent like, you know, ten years

1163
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: in photography school in nineteen eighty and now there's a

1164
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: button that will pick the filter and it looks better

1165
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: film everything instant and there's pros and cons to it.

1166
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: But I just think with the music, it's like you

1167
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: can't like I don't know, so I don't want to like.

1168
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: I I know what you mean because I have two kids.

1169
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: I got a thirteen and fifteen year old, and I

1170
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: like the people now, Like now it's about how people

1171
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: become experts at manipulating the latest technology, right like and

1172
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: and coming up with good songs. And I mean, I

1173
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: I like Drake. I like when I hear Drake on

1174
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: the radio. Yes, I like that. I like that, I

1175
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: like like going. I was. I was in Europe recently

1176
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: and they had this music channel and it was playing

1177
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: that hotline blame video all day? Did you jump out

1178
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: of a window? Yeah? But I was. I was. I

1179
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: sort of became the joke where I was singing it

1180
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: all the time to annoy people around me, which was funny.

1181
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: But I also think that it was catchyas I'm Canadian,

1182
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: so I gotta like, you know, it's nice to see

1183
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: a Canadian, uh, you know rapper, a cross half black,

1184
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: half Jewish Canadian rapper. Who would have thought that the

1185
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: biggest rapper in the world would be a Canadian half

1186
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: black bar Mitz foot jew former Degrassi junior high. I

1187
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: never would have thought it. I mean, I think it's

1188
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: like a story by a Canadian. Absolutely, But but you

1189
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: know the thing about that, so to also, sometimes I

1190
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: wake up. I've never listened to song all the way through.

1191
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: I'll wake I swear to God, I'll wake up sometimes

1192
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: and I'll be singing that song to myself. And I've

1193
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: also done that with the Taylor Swift song. Players gonna

1194
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: hate hate what's happening? I mean those are good songs, though,

1195
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: I mean, if you play anything enough times, but I

1196
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: don't even listen to the song, like if I hear

1197
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: in a car passing. That's how good hotline bling is

1198
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: is that you could you could hate it and it

1199
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: still gets into your soul. Taylor Swift has the power

1200
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: to fucking get in your body and your cells without

1201
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: you even with like against your own will. The Eminem thing, Yeah,

1202
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: I want to because I'm just gonna ask, Okay, now

1203
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: you you you said just hold on, don't hold the fun.

1204
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: You've been preparing to ask the guy the question, get

1205
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: the questions. Why do you got a preface? You like, like,

1206
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: why do you have almost power? I don't want to

1207
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: keep the guy, so we just askay shut up. Going

1208
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: back to the bum Bum song. Yeah, back then when

1209
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: Eminem did his own little parody of the of the

1210
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: bum Bum song in the Real Slim Shady, is that

1211
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: a conversation that you have with Emine? Obviously he just

1212
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: throws it out, But what was your reaction to that.

1213
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: I thought it was awesome. I mean, were you just

1214
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: like so flattened? I mean it was it was sort

1215
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: of out of nowhere. No, it wasn't a conversation, Like

1216
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was happening until the video came out.

1217
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: And how did you find radio? And I saw the

1218
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: video and he was running around in my superhero suit.

1219
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how he got it's the exact same

1220
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: one that was in the video, or maybe it's not

1221
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: the exact same one, the exact same style of thing

1222
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: with the bum bum the plastic bum bum my lyrics.

1223
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: You know, my bum is on your lips, My is

1224
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: on your lips. I just want to go on TV

1225
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: and let loose, but I can't. But it's cool for

1226
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: Tom Green to hump a dead moose. My bum is

1227
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: on your lips. My bum is on your lips. Right.

1228
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: You hear that and you're like, what, that's cool? And

1229
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: and that's the songs on the radio all day, the

1230
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: biggest fucking and it's on on MTV. He had also

1231
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: done a thing where he took over Total Request live

1232
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: for a day and he went out and he did

1233
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: impressions of me. See that was so prominently featured in

1234
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: that fake goatee on and he was doing stuff with

1235
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: a megaphone, and I remember talking like me, Yeah, it

1236
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: was cool. I never I've never met em. You never

1237
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: met him. I never met him. I've never seen him

1238
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: in real life. Yeah, I'd like to meet him. But

1239
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: I did have the when I made Freddie Got Fingered.

1240
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: I directed that movie. So I cut to like do

1241
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: the soundtrack and everything, and so I put slim Shady

1242
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: that song in the credit role. Of course, you have

1243
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: to ask permission. And he didn't give you a hook

1244
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: up for fucking He didn't give me a hook up.

1245
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: He let me use it. Yeah, because he Officially, they don't.

1246
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: They did not license music to anybody ever. They never

1247
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: gave any music to anyone and they but they gave

1248
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: the music to us. Shout out Paul Rosenberg. Yeah, are

1249
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: you going to direct another film? I'd like to. Yeah,

1250
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: I'd like to. It's a sort of I mean, I

1251
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: don't know if I if or when I will. But

1252
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,479
Speaker 1: have you written anything. I'm thinking I'm going to write

1253
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: a new one, a new movie soon. I have a

1254
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: few ideas. I just I'm I'm sort of I get

1255
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: very uh, I spread myself and all the I'm tour

1256
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: and doing stand up, I'm always writing new stand up.

1257
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: That's sort of the main thing I'm actually Uh, I'm

1258
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: actually gonna start recording some goofy music again to incorporate

1259
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: into my stand up show. And then if I get

1260
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: a spare moment, I do kind of want to write

1261
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: another script, but I'm just gonna gotta find the time

1262
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: to do it. So yeah, look, I do love I

1263
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: do love directing, and like I love the editing process

1264
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: and the shooting and and and the writing process. But

1265
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Speaker 1: you know, it's just uh coming up with the right

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01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: idea and figuring out what I want to invest. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, however, many years of my life into getting

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01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: it made you know, it's Yeah, Um, how did you

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01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: wind up guest hosting The Letterman Show? Yeah? And since

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01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: you you spoke about loving him so much? Like how

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01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: fucking tripped out? Were you? Yeah? I mean that must

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01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:06,439
Speaker 1: have been like and just so flattering to also sort

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01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: of you know, obviously he has approval over that, like

1274
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: to get that sort of stip of approval from So

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01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: how did it wind a past? That was the probably

1276
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:19,919
Speaker 1: the single most amazing thing, surreal unbelievable thing. That's that's

1277
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: happened to me, you know, through all of this stuff,

1278
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: because you know, it wasn't it wasn't just it was

1279
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: unexpected because he didn't even have people guest to right

1280
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, no, I heard he was

1281
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: having some guest hosts, and then he stopped and he

1282
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: didn't do it, and then out of nowhere, like a

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01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: year after he'd had some guest hosts. I just I was.

1284
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,479
Speaker 1: I was in Los Angeles. I just got a call

1285
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: from uh, you know, someone I worked with who called

1286
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: and said, are you sitting down? It was I thought

1287
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: somebody had died, you know. I was like, Okay, what

1288
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: what's going on? You're hosting Letterman tomorrow. Drive to the

1289
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: airport right now. You've got a flight in three hours,

1290
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: you know. So so drove the airport. You know, I

1291
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: had to write my monologue. You know, on the plane.

1292
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: I had some you know friends of mine who were

1293
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: you know, funny people who threw a few jokes at me.

1294
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: And you know, literally less than twenty four hours later,

1295
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: I was walking out on stage at the Sullivan Theater

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01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: and yeah, I didn't I didn't see Letterman that day.

1297
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: But he was actually there that day was on a

1298
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: Thursday where he did two shows, so he wasn't even sick.

1299
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: I don't even know why I had got to do it,

1300
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: but but I got a letterman jacket, so I got

1301
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: I got the late show jacket. Who are your guests?

1302
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: It was Scott Stevens from the New Jersey Devils. That's

1303
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: always a great guest. You always want to like when

1304
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: you're doing it. That's the dream. I want a host Letterman.

1305
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: And then but you're a hockey guy though. Right they

1306
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 1: had just beat the Ottawa Senators, and so I had

1307
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: this bit that I prepared with him where I pulled

1308
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 1: out to Ottawa Senator's jersey at jew Jersey, New Jersey

1309
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: Devil's jersey, gave it to him right there, and then

1310
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: I said, I want to show you how can Adiens

1311
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 1: play hockey and we go into the performance area over

1312
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: by the band. I throw the puck down on the

1313
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: ground and go try to take this puck away from me,

1314
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 1: and then I do a bunch of stick handling and

1315
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: then he just body checks me and knocks me across

1316
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: the room. So it's pretty cool. Um And it was

1317
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: Jolene Blaylock actress from Star Trek Babylon five was the show? Okay,

1318
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: shout out to Joelene. Yeah, yeah, thank you, Joline. It

1319
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: was a good interview, and uh there was there may

1320
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: have been a comedian or someone else on the show,

1321
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's like no time to even process and

1322
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: experience it was. You know, you know, you have those

1323
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: moments where you know you're kinda in this business where

1324
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: you just sort of I'm sure you've had a million

1325
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: of them. You know, you're probably so used to it now, right,

1326
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: but when you're we're working with somebody, you're like, what

1327
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: the hell am I I don't? I don't. You never

1328
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: get used to it. And I think that you know,

1329
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 1: as soon as you get used to it, or as

1330
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: soon as you know you start taking for granted something

1331
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: like that, you've got to reevaluate, you know, if you

1332
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: still love it, because at the end of the day,

1333
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: that that's what you doing it for, Like you're doing

1334
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: it for those moments, you're doing it for that sort

1335
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: of you know, when you reach that sort of that

1336
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: in between I called for me, like you know, in

1337
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: between action and cut, you know, or like you know,

1338
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: when you're on a set with someone you grew up

1339
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: loving or you're hosting you know, Letterman. I mean, like,

1340
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 1: you know, to be in front of Robert de Niro acting,

1341
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: I'm like at I'm like, I'm in the moment, I'm

1342
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 1: focusing it, but like after action and cut, I'm like,

1343
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 1: what the fun you know, I'm looking at him, I'm

1344
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: seeing the dimple. I'm like, what the fun is? You know,

1345
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: like you're tripping out, you know. But I and I

1346
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: always you know, I think once you stopped getting nervous

1347
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: and excited, then I think that's time to like hang

1348
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: up the cleats. Yeah, that was definitely the most nervous

1349
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: and excited I've ever been, other than maybe the first

1350
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 1: time I was a guest on Letterman, which was I

1351
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: was also very nervous, and probably more nervous and excited

1352
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: at that time because he was actually there. Remember that time,

1353
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: that was only about a month after I've been in

1354
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: on MTV, And that was the first show I ever

1355
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: did in America was Letterman, The first talk talk show

1356
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: had ever been on, first any sort of interview of

1357
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 1: any sort. Ship He like saw the show and just

1358
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: for whatever reason just like responded to it right away.

1359
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: And I remember standing there backstage and he was standing

1360
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 1: out there at his desk and he looked over the

1361
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: side of the stage and I just was like, I

1362
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 1: waved at him, you know, I waved at me, waved

1363
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: back at me. I thought, oh my god, I thought,

1364
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 1: I've I've made it. Now I can go back to

1365
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: Ottawa and move out to the woods and and and quit.

1366
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: At this point, Lederman just waved at me. I hadn't

1367
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: even done the interview yet. But then, you know, okay

1368
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: with a couple of years later, I got to guest

1369
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: Toasted and I remember sitting backstage there getting ready to

1370
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,560
Speaker 1: go out, and you know, they play the intro and

1371
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, you know, they play the theme song. And

1372
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: Paul Shaffer was there that night. He was playing the

1373
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 1: theme song from the had Saltman Theater. It's the late

1374
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 1: show Tonight's guests. Green Abo was just sitting there. What

1375
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: is going on? Biff is there? You know, who is

1376
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: like actually the stage man. You know, he's got the

1377
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 1: headset on not doing a bit that day. He's just

1378
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 1: there being the stage manager, you know, and I'm kind

1379
01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: of is this for real? I can't believe that there's

1380
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: been he's actually the stage manager. This is amazing. So

1381
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 1: that's fucking crazy, man, that's crazy. And then and then

1382
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 1: specifically because I want to let you go because we've

1383
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: been we've been rocking for a minute, hour and seven

1384
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: having me on the show. I appreciate it, man, it's honor. Man.

1385
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: I've got a podcast too. We're we're a network labelmates,

1386
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 1: absolutely Labet CBS Radio play at network. What's an your podcast?

1387
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 1: The Tom Green Radio Show? And uh, and it's a podcast,

1388
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: but I called the Time Green Radio Show. I want

1389
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: to come on here? Yeah, absolutely, And and I recorded

1390
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: just down the streets. So you've always been sort of

1391
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 1: ahead of the curb because like when I came to

1392
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: your house, I think it was two thousand and seven,

1393
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was cold. I'm sorry the

1394
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: Time Green Show, but it was out of your house.

1395
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 1: Like you know that, You've always sort of been a

1396
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 1: beat ahead with that ship, and you had the live

1397
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 1: stream and back then, I I actually like they were taking,

1398
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: you were taking, you were taking questions, and I had

1399
01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: I had don't make it about yourself. I'll fucking kick

1400
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: you write the Fox the interview with making it about

1401
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 1: all of us. Finish up the thing. I'm just saying

1402
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 1: I submitted a question and when I came up to

1403
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,560
Speaker 1: your house, and I think it was about road and

1404
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: he and you thought that that was important enough to

1405
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: bring up. Now an hour I recorded it a minute

1406
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 1: on my phone of you answering the question his son.

1407
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: Aren't you know I'm really not not at all prank. No,

1408
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 1: he's not not. Um. I don't care about the details

1409
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: of of of the relationship. But the one thing I

1410
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,759
Speaker 1: have to ask you about when you were doing Satenite

1411
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: Life during the fucking hysteria of Tom Green and then

1412
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: the Drew Barrymore stuff and then We're gonna get married

1413
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 1: on TV? We're not gonna get married on TV? Can

1414
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: you reveal what was the real deal? Have you ever

1415
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 1: like what were like? Was that really gonna happen? Was

1416
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 1: it not gonna Hell? No, we were never going to

1417
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 1: get married on TV. Now, No, we were never going

1418
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: to get married on TV. But we we thought it

1419
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 1: would be funny to tell people that we were going

1420
01:10:58,240 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 1: to get married on TV and then have her leave

1421
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: me the altar at the end. That was that was

1422
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: my idea. It was my idea. And then the reaction

1423
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 1: to that and the sort of ship storm that that

1424
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: whole thing. Well, you know, I think that that was

1425
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: a surprise to me that people take things far too seriously. Um,

1426
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: I I have I don't have a lot of regrets

1427
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: in life, but one one regret I have was and

1428
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: it's it's got nothing to do with Drew or or

1429
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: or that bit specifically, but the way that bit work was,

1430
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'm hosting Saturday Night Live. This is my

1431
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: opportunity to host Saturday Night Live, which has gotta be

1432
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 1: up there in the surreal moment. Yeah, it's it's it's

1433
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: you know, equal to it's it's you know, like like

1434
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: I said, the Letterman was the most surreal thing. That

1435
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 1: was also the most surreal surreal thing right stripped out

1436
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 1: live from New York. Yeah, it was unbelievable and you're

1437
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: sitting there going, this is actually happening right now. And

1438
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, uh, I decided with my friends, when

1439
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 1: we're sitting around kind of thinking of funny things to do,

1440
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 1: well and what would be crazy, let's have a moment

1441
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 1: where have a thing where we're gonna say you're gonna

1442
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 1: get married on the show. Because we were engaged at

1443
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 1: the time. Let's get let's get married and uh on

1444
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 1: the show, but then at the end, she'll stand me

1445
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: up at the altar, and then when she stands me

1446
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: up at the altar, I'll freak out go into one

1447
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 1: of my sort of screaming, hysterical sort of things that

1448
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 1: I would do back then, which this sort of I

1449
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: don't know what that character was, but I don't really

1450
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 1: do that anymore, where I'd like to flip out, and

1451
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 1: then the entire cast of the show would uncomfortably walk away,

1452
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: and then I would be alone on the stage at

1453
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: the band would stop playing, when it would be all

1454
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 1: along in silence. So this class, the classic ending of

1455
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live, where everybody's having this great, congratulatory, beautiful moment,

1456
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 1: was ruined for me by this stupid idea, you know,

1457
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 1: And uh I regret that because uh, you know, I

1458
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: I love Saturday Night Live. I grew up watching it.

1459
01:12:55,439 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 1: It was and I didn't really really predict act when

1460
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 1: we wrote that bit. We thought it would be funny,

1461
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 1: but I didn't really really consider that that's going to

1462
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 1: sort of ruin the beauty of that moment with the

1463
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: band playing and the whole cast around and everybody smiling

1464
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 1: and waving and enjoying that music. And cheering with the crowd. Instead,

1465
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 1: the show ended with complete silence, me alone on the

1466
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:28,799
Speaker 1: stage screaming, and then they yelled cut it was silence.

1467
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: The audience was confused because they don't know what's going

1468
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 1: there there there? Did he really get stood up at

1469
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: the altar? Is he really freaking out? And uh? And

1470
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: I I do, I do kind of wish that we

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Speaker 1: had just done a nice ending. When when when that

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Speaker 1: whole sort of wave of you know, this couple of

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Speaker 1: two celebrities and you're in it because I I've never actually,

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I've never been in one

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Speaker 1: of those, you know, but I see I've seen it

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Speaker 1: happen to friends, and I haven't been in one sense.

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Speaker 1: But but when you're in the middle of that wave

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Speaker 1: of you know, paparazzi and you know fucking you know,

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01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: fodder and esquire and and and gossip and and all

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01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: this stuff, like, are you like going what the fund

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Speaker 1: is going on? Like? Are you making fun of it?

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01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: Are you scared? Are you questioning? Like? Is this is

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01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 1: this sort of paparazzi? And and it is all the

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01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: the the the the the what's the word? The gossip?

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01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 1: Bringing us together is is it pushing us apart? Like

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Speaker 1: like what was going on? Like, are you like freaking

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Speaker 1: out during that? Is the relationship? Real? Course it was? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think the thing is is my whole

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Speaker 1: life was everything in my life I was goofing on

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Speaker 1: at that point, even you know, like you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: Drew and I had a you know, a good relationship.

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Speaker 1: Obviously it was real. We were engaged for real, we

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Speaker 1: got married for real, right but U but uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: it didn't work out in the in the long run,

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Speaker 1: but it was it was real at the time. And

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Speaker 1: she's a funny person, and we would you know, sort

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Speaker 1: of have fun with a lot of that stuff with

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Speaker 1: the with the you know, it wasn't really like TMZ

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01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 1: back then, but there was paparazzi and like people taking

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Speaker 1: pictures and all of the magazine articles and the tabloids

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01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And and I I I was

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01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 1: probably naive to think that, uh, you know, you could

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Speaker 1: just sort of have fun with with the media and

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01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 1: expect them to understand that I was having fun with them.

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01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 1: And it's sort of a prank, pranking you you know,

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01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: the media like actually doesn't like it when you make

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01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 1: fun of them, right, So I thought that they would

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01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: kind of see it as, oh, he's doing sort of

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01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 1: an Andy Kaufman type of thing. You know, he's goofing

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Speaker 1: on us. Okay, now people didn't like that too much,

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01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 1: so so which you know, hindsight, But it was it

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01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 1: was surreal and and interesting time. But uh, you know,

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01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 1: it was a very surreal time. I mean, like to

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01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 1: put to encapsulate how surreal it was. The day after

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01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: I hosted Saturday Night Live and did that prank, uh,

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Speaker 1: got on a plane the next morning to London, England

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Speaker 1: and went and had dinner with Prince Charles at St

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Speaker 1: James Palace with about twelve other people for the royal

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01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: premiere of Charlie's Angels. So you know you're sitting there

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01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: going like, okay, I just tell us this Saturday Night Live.

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01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 1: You know, people are confused about the meat bailing on

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01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 1: the marriage thing on the show. Now I'm eating dinner

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01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 1: with Prince Charles at a table with twelve other people

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Speaker 1: St James Palace. That's crazy, you know. Now what Now

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting in a theater watching Charlie's Angels with Prince Charles.

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Speaker 1: I'd play this character called the Chat in it right.

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Speaker 1: So that's how I met Drew. When I met Drew

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Speaker 1: when she this is the first Charlie Angel, the first

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Speaker 1: Charlie As I got a good story when I was

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01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: on When I was on MTV, they cast me to

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Speaker 1: be the chat right, So um, that's how I met her.

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Speaker 1: We started dating. Now I'm in in in London, having

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Speaker 1: dinner with Prince Charles, watching the movie with Prince Charles.

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Speaker 1: I have my line, you know, like I come out,

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Speaker 1: I go the Chad's great, you know, I do some thing.

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Speaker 1: I fall off the boat into the water, right, and

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Speaker 1: then Prince Charles like leans over across, you know, and

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Speaker 1: then taps me, Hey, did you really fall off? Were

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01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: you really falling off that I'm sitting there? What then

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01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: is going on? You not to top your Charlie's Angels story?

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01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 1: And I didn't think about this. I saw Charlie's Angels,

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01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,719
Speaker 1: the first Charlie's Angels before it came out in theaters

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01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 1: at Michael Jackson's house. Nice and I'll give you the

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01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 1: short version, but it was. I was with Damon Dash

1545
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: who started Rockefeller Records with Jay Z met a few times,

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01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 1: and I grew up with Damon. You were kids but

1547
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: so Damon and Kadata Jones and a handful of Rockefeller

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01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,679
Speaker 1: people and this one and that one. Jay wasn't there

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01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: he was. Damon was like, Yo, you want to go

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01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 1: to Michael Jackson's house. And I was like, fucky and

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01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 1: he was like, come come meet me and so and

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01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: so in a few hours, gonna go to Michael Jackson.

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01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 1: So the short version is, um, you know, we get

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Speaker 1: to Michael Jackson's house. This is before all the craziness is.

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01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 1: You know, this is when he's alive and kicking. It

1556
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 1: was you know, like some of the craziest said it

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01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 1: had happened, you know, the child stuff and all that stuff.

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01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 1: So when we get there, we saw the tree that

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Speaker 1: he had done the interview he said he likes to

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01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 1: climb that never Land ranch and uh, you know, like

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01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 1: there before like we get there, like I leven, they're like,

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01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, you could order whatever you want. And this

1563
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: is a bunch of New York kipop dues and we're like,

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Speaker 1: I want to like try to see if that's true.

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01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 1: So like some dudes are like, yo, let me get

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Speaker 1: s cargo. Some dude are like, let me get clams

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01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: with Laguini and all the ship comes for lunch. We're

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Speaker 1: driving and we're having a whole the whole fucking day

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Speaker 1: at Michael Jackson. And then we go into the movie

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Speaker 1: theater later on when the lights, you know, the nights

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Speaker 1: started falling, we go into the movie theater and we

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Speaker 1: were in the movie theater where all the there was

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01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 1: beds and ship. Oh god, we're like the sleepovers and

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01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 1: all the stuff, and they serve us dinner and we

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Speaker 1: watched Charlie's Angels. Michael Michael Jacks he wasn't there, he

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Speaker 1: was never there, he was never but we had like

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Speaker 1: run of the play. But there were servants. There was

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Speaker 1: fucking security at once. I mean there was like a

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Speaker 1: house on a hill and I was like, what is that?

1580
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 1: I mean far away, like did you see the monkey

1581
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,640
Speaker 1: and the and were you on the Black Coaster? The

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01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 1: whole fucking deal of crocodile, a fucking uh giraffe um,

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01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: and and the scope of it, if you if you

1584
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: try to wrap your hand around how big it was,

1585
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 1: like you have to think great adventure, like if you've

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01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 1: been to like Magic Mountain or great like his property

1587
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: was that ginormous. And I remember kept saying to myself

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Speaker 1: like take this in and try to remember like the

1589
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 1: like this, like how big it was it But there

1590
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 1: was like a hill far far away and it was

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01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 1: like that's where the security was. It was like I

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01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 1: mean it was like huge. So that's when if he

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01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 1: asked you to sleep over and he was there, would

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01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,600
Speaker 1: you have slept over? You would have just been like

1595
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 1: type I. I wasn't his type to tall, I just

1596
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm no, I'm no man's type. Anyway, there's no gay like,

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01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 1: there's no gay man. It's like thinks about like my

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01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 1: Rappaport being like there's like they don't have like a

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01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 1: poster you probably none of you either toime, like like

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01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think that. Maybe in prison they there's other

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01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 1: people they would go to. I don't know how we

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01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 1: got that anyway. Okay, that's about the all right, Tom,

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01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you go. This has been a pleasure.

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01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,640
Speaker 1: It's fun, awesome be here. I would love to come

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01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:24,759
Speaker 1: on your show if you'll have me. Um, I'm a fan. Yeah, absolutely,

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01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 1: I'd love to have you on the show. I'll come on.

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01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to to seeing what else are you

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01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 1: having the future. Your health is good, health is good,

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01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 1: everything's good. I'm touring. I'm come see me on the road.

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01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 1: Go to Tom Green dot com and check out my

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Speaker 1: tour dates and comes to me on the road. Everything's great.