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Speaker 2: They've dropped a couple of water mines, you call them

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Speaker 2: Couple of minds in the water. We have mine sweepers

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Speaker 2: makes no difference to me because we've won.

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Speaker 4: Whether you listen to the fake news or not. You know,

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Speaker 2: Their credibilities down to thirteen percent, the media credibility down

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Speaker 3: Think of it.

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Speaker 2: We defeated their navy, we defeated their air force, we

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Speaker 2: And now all we do is we'll open up the straight.

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Speaker 6: This should be more about surrender, the terms of surrender,

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Speaker 11: However, they were not able to bridge these huge divides

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Speaker 6: A propaganda's propaganda and repetition of propaganda is a powerful tool.

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Speaker 14: Tel aviv Levin tell us the way it is. It

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Speaker 6: I have in front of me, though, you know, the

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Speaker 6: And then we have the instrument of Surrender by the

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Speaker 6: I'm not encouraging it. I'm asking you about the law.

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Speaker 7: It's just the decision making process for weapons of mass

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Speaker 6: So I take that as it possible. Yes, I'm not

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Speaker 15: I'm not encouraging this. I want you to know I'm

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Speaker 15: Your thoughts, sir.

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Speaker 17: Ourst thought when I saw it last night and I

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Speaker 9: You know, Vance walked out.

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Speaker 17: They have to go up, and they'll continue to go up.

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Speaker 17: So a temporary blip is insulting to me. It's frankly insulting.

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Speaker 17: You know, the woke world that we were just horribly

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Speaker 9: It's horrible from in the country.

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Speaker 15: Here's the reason.

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Speaker 14: The naval equivalent of boots on the ground is a

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Speaker 14: He's going to put pressure on the on the people,

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Speaker 14: listening to these guys in Tehran think they've got leverage.

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Speaker 14: I've got the leverage and I'm blockading the Gulf of

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Speaker 14: Oman and the Persian Gulf.

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Speaker 15: Well, tell the audience, Explain the audience what that means, sir.

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Speaker 18: Yes, Steve. I mean, the President clearly didn't like what

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Speaker 18: happened that came out of the talks and Islam blah blad.

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Speaker 18: And he saw that his team was moving in to

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Speaker 18: do what had been on their plan, which was to

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Speaker 18: start clearing the straight and so he said through yesterday

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Speaker 18: to guided missile destroyers, the Michael Murphy and the Frankie Peterson.

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Speaker 18: And this is in response to what Iran had put

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Speaker 18: out on Thursday, the ninth of April. This chart that

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Speaker 18: shows where they laid mines. It was the first time

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Speaker 18: since the war started that Iran had even acknowledged that

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Speaker 18: they put out mines. And there's a if we can

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Speaker 18: get the chart up, it'll show a red box in

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Speaker 18: the center of the strait of Hormones. There it is,

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Speaker 18: and so where it says hazardous area is where the

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Speaker 18: old traffic separation scheme was that ships would go in

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Speaker 18: and out of the Strait of Hormuz, the two quarters

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Speaker 18: to the north of that. They go through Iranian waters

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Speaker 18: through Keshum and the Rock Island on the inbound and

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Speaker 18: then south of Larik Island on the outbound. Those were

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Speaker 18: established in mid March by the Iranians and some ships

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Speaker 18: were paying this toll to Urman. So when the talks

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Speaker 18: failed here last night, you know, the Iranians sought that

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Speaker 18: they had checkmate on us, and then the President's team

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Speaker 18: countered that with saying, hey, we just sent to destroyers through,

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Speaker 18: and you know you don't lead in a mind sweeping

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Speaker 18: effort sending two ages destroyers through. Now, Admiral Cooper down

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Speaker 18: and Sentcom said that, you know, this is the beginning

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Speaker 18: of sending the conditions for my encountermeasure clearances to ensure

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Speaker 18: the strait is fully clear.

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Speaker 9: Of sea minds.

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Speaker 18: And there was some you know, conversations about drones and

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Speaker 18: unmanned systems and other EOD services, and I think the

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Speaker 18: President said, I'm not going to play this game. I'm

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Speaker 18: just going to blockade this and everybody's going to suffer

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Speaker 18: until the world finally gets enough of this and tells

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Speaker 18: Iron to stop. And so I'm I'm very glad that

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Speaker 18: he's done this. It is escalatory in the sense of

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Speaker 18: economic escalation for the rest of the world, but in

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Speaker 18: terms of military escalation, it has actually kept our forces

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Speaker 18: from actually having to be picked off or or that

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Speaker 18: you know, golden beebe that we saw against the F

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Speaker 18: fifteen last week, a similar kind of event could happen

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Speaker 18: against a ship doing mind clearance measures in there. Why

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Speaker 18: risk that. Let's just tell everybody, you can't come through

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Speaker 18: the straight until Iran, you know, is broken on this,

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Speaker 18: and so they're going to have to give this up.

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Speaker 18: And that'll be the test to see how long the

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Speaker 18: world will put up with having zero ships go through.

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Speaker 18: And I'll just tell you this thing on the mines.

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Speaker 18: One last thing. There's the United Kingdom's Maritime Trade Office

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Speaker 18: that has been putting out these reports since the war started.

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Speaker 18: They put out thirty one reports every couple of days,

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Speaker 18: and I counted them up. I went through every report.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 18: There has been two hundred and two tankers and cargo ships,

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Speaker 18: big bulk cargo ships that have gone through the Straight

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Speaker 18: of Horror moves since the war started, vastly down from

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Speaker 18: you know, from the normal transit of one hundred and

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Speaker 18: thirty five ships a day, but still two hundred and

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Speaker 18: two ships went through the Straight of Horror Moons. Most

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Speaker 18: of those were on AI, all of those were AIS tracked.

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Speaker 18: Some went through the toll booth, but many went through

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Speaker 18: the middle, and we had a larger number of dark

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Speaker 18: ship vessels that went through, turned off their AIS and

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Speaker 18: went through the strait. And in those forty plus days,

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Speaker 18: there hasn't been According to the United Kingdom's Maritime Trade Office,

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Speaker 18: which is feeding the Lloyd's of London's paradigm, zero mines

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Speaker 18: have been confirmed, so there hasn't been a confirmed mind yet.

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Speaker 18: The whole world shut down and refused to go through,

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Speaker 18: and it was really a base upon you in the

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Speaker 18: tanker wars. Ships continued to go through, even those ships

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Speaker 18: struck mines in the eighties. But now there's zero risk

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Speaker 18: from the international shipping community. And I think President Trump

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Speaker 18: has just said that's it.

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Speaker 14: Okay, Yeah, Captain Fanel hang on, We're going to continue

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Speaker 14: this conversation after a short commercial work.

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Speaker 3: War room.

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Speaker 4: Here's your host, Stephen k Back.

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Speaker 14: Okay, uh, Sam Fatt is going to join us in

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Speaker 14: a little while, Doctor Thayer.

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Speaker 15: The treat of Parsi.

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Speaker 14: You can get Jack, Butsovic in the second hour, we're

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Speaker 14: going to go into Ireland also about the revolution in

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Speaker 14: the streets by the truckers and the farmers.

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Speaker 15: To get to all that bollingh I'm coming right back

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Speaker 15: to you.

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Speaker 14: Uh, because folks, this is we are now thrust upon

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Speaker 14: the world stage. We had this because of imminent thread

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Speaker 14: of nuclear weapons. I argue that Israel dragged us into

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Speaker 14: this war for their own greater Israel project. But hey

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Speaker 14: be that at as May. That is water under the

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Speaker 14: bridge now. President Trump did try to accommodate and sit

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Speaker 14: down and had the first meeting of senior officials of

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Speaker 14: the US government since we were unceremoniously turfed out back

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Speaker 14: in night eighteen seventy nine when the Shaw got thrown

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Speaker 14: out and we got thrown out with them, and then

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Speaker 14: they seized our embassy. So we've been around that neighborhood

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Speaker 14: for forty seven years. President Trump tried to do it.

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Speaker 14: It looks like the Iranians don't think they're losing their

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Speaker 14: arrogance in this is pretty up front and in your grill.

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Speaker 14: So Captain Fanel, we've been arguing here, and Scott Besson's.

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Speaker 15: Been arguing here in the war. We've been arguing for

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Speaker 15: a while.

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Speaker 14: Instead of boots on the ground or taking carg Island,

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Speaker 14: because carg island's up near the Tigerson, the euphrates just block.

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Speaker 14: We have two carriers strike groups and can put a

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Speaker 14: third down there. Just blocked the Gulf of Oman be

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Speaker 14: far enough standoff. He has to just block the Gulf

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Speaker 14: of Oman before it gets to the Arabian Sea and

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Speaker 14: turn back every ship. Don't anybody come in and turn

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Speaker 14: back every ship, and don't let any of these dark ships,

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Speaker 14: and don't let the Chinese commists party get their fuel

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Speaker 14: because you've got to give a wake up call to

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Speaker 14: she because they also think they're on the winning side.

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Speaker 14: Right now, you've argued, I want you to go with details.

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Speaker 14: We weren't there yet. In fact, you're saying, hey, the

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Speaker 14: mining situation was very cloudy. Although it looked like there

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Speaker 14: was no mind you sent it to early work class.

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Speaker 14: I think destroyers through yesterday you kind of now have proven,

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Speaker 14: or at least proven I think to enough people that

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Speaker 14: there's not really it hasn't been a big minefield lead

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Speaker 14: and now because of other things that we did to

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Speaker 14: make sure that we could defang and declaw you can

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Speaker 14: actually do a naval blockade. Is that your theory of

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Speaker 14: the case here is that it took a while for

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Speaker 14: Admiral Cooper and the team at sen come to do this, Sir.

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Speaker 16: Yes, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 18: It's taken just over forty days to be able to

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Speaker 18: essentially roll back the Iranian ability to have this coordinated

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Speaker 18: ability to strike our naval forces off the coast of Iran.

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Speaker 18: And in order to do that, they had integration of

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Speaker 18: national overhead systems, intelligence from satellites, it's been fed to

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Speaker 18: them from China and Russia. They have their own airborne

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Speaker 18: surveillance platforms, they have their own ground based surveillance platforms,

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Speaker 18: they have their own command and control nodes that integrate

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Speaker 18: the data, the targeting data that then is fed into

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Speaker 18: their ballistic missiles. And we had to roll all of

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Speaker 18: that back systematically and to destroy it. And the results

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Speaker 18: of that have been that they have not been able

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Speaker 18: to hit any of our ships, and our ships are

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Speaker 18: much closer to the coast now than they were, and

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Speaker 18: they have been unsuccessful. And I think it's important for

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Speaker 18: people to remember because there's been a lot of before

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Speaker 18: this war, there's been a lot of talk, especially with

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Speaker 18: regard to China, that the US Navy's carrier fleet would

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Speaker 18: be sunk in the first fifteen minutes of any war.

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Speaker 18: And what people really don't understand how hard it is

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Speaker 18: to hit a ship at sea, a moving target with

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Speaker 18: ballistic missiles and with actually a hypersonic or supersonic cruise missiles.

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Speaker 18: It's no easy feet. It takes a lot of geometry

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Speaker 18: and a lot of accuracy. And then to get inside

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Speaker 18: the bubbles of our carrier strike groups that have you know,

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Speaker 18: ageous awareness, national overhead system awareness has you know, systems

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Speaker 18: that are designed to shoot down missiles before their missile

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Speaker 18: even gets inside of our bubble, to turn on their

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Speaker 18: sensor to find out where we are. In the final

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Speaker 18: home game of the missile coming in, we can destroy

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Speaker 18: the missile with the SM six before it even gets

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Speaker 18: able to get an update on where it's at. We've

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Speaker 18: disrupted their data links, We've disrupted their ability to help

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Speaker 18: queue that missile to us. So we have rolled that

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Speaker 18: back and now we're in this position where we're able

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Speaker 18: to effectively conduct a blockade. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 18: this break in this ceasefire has allowed us to refuel

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Speaker 18: to re arm to get fresh food and vegetables to

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Speaker 18: our sailors afloat to there's reports of ships gone down

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Speaker 18: to Diego to get cognitions interceptors hang on.

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Speaker 15: I agree with that.

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Speaker 14: That's exactly why the Iranians are saying, you can't trust

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Speaker 14: the Americans. The Americans want these ceasefires so that they

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Speaker 14: can restock and rearm, and then at the other end

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Speaker 14: of it come out and say, hey, guess what I think.

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Speaker 14: Now that we're re armed and restocked, we're going to

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Speaker 14: put a full blockade on. From their perspective, they kind

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Speaker 14: of played into Trump's. I mean, we've done this before,

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Speaker 14: and this is one of the things they keep arguing.

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Speaker 14: They have to have a regional shutdown because they don't

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Speaker 14: trust us, because we've used these situations, these stand downs

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Speaker 14: to basically strengthen our forces and pour more forces into

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Speaker 14: the area to then ratchet up the pressure on them.

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Speaker 18: Correct correct, which is to say, what you're essentially saying

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Speaker 18: is that they're operating from a position of extreme weakness.

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Speaker 18: But as you also say, their attitude is that they're

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Speaker 18: not defeated. That's the Iranian statement after the President posted

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Speaker 18: his truth social about the blockade. Here's what the Iranians said,

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Speaker 18: quote any wrong move in the straight up horror moves

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Speaker 18: will trap the enemy in deadly whirlpools. That's pretty weak,

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Speaker 18: what world too. So they're not going to be able

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Speaker 18: to do anything there, and we're going to be able

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Speaker 18: to blockade. And oh, by the way, there's even reports

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Speaker 18: that China is preparing to send manpads into Iran. So

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Speaker 18: you know, if the Chinese think that.

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Speaker 16: They are not going to get any oil.

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Speaker 18: But maybe they're going to supply Iran with you know,

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Speaker 18: kind of other weapons, they need to be on an

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Speaker 18: advisory notification that maybe those ships will be sunk as well.

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Speaker 18: I'm not sure the president will go there, but that

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Speaker 18: would I would advise him that that's something that we

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Speaker 18: need to.

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Speaker 14: Make sure that you hang on Chinese on You don't

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Speaker 14: think he will turn it well, but this is the

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Speaker 14: point of it. This is why naval blockade is a

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Speaker 14: different animal. Right, You're now thrust upon the world stage.

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Speaker 14: I'm blockading the Gulf of Oman. In the streets are removed.

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Speaker 14: You don't think that you think the Chinese to me

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Speaker 14: the purpose of it, Maybe I'm missing it.

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Speaker 15: The purpose of it.

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Speaker 14: He understands that the Chinese Commanist Party are double dealing

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Speaker 14: us as they've always done, along with the Pakistanis and

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Speaker 14: the Iranians. And oh, let me throw in there too,

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Speaker 14: our great allies in Saudi Arabia and Cutter and UAE

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Speaker 14: and in Tel Aviv, all of them, and they're they're

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Speaker 14: they're doing what's best for them. They could care what

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Speaker 14: is the best of the United States interests. But you

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Speaker 14: don't believe by staying we have a naval blockade that

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Speaker 14: we're going to turn back the oil coming out of

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Speaker 14: there from the regime to the Chinese Commanist Party.

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Speaker 15: What's the purpose of a blockade.

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Speaker 18: Well, we'll probably do like we've done in previous things.

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Speaker 18: We'll set up some kind of uh an area where

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Speaker 18: we're going to quarantine those ships and just hold them,

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Speaker 18: pull them at anchorage and not let them transit. We

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Speaker 18: won't sink them, we won't let them go back in,

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Speaker 18: but we won't let them go anywhere else. And so

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Speaker 18: there'll just be.

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Speaker 15: A bunch of ships sitting there. Okay, That's that's how

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Speaker 15: blockade effectively will work.

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Speaker 18: And oh, by the way, we have one other carrier

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Speaker 18: that left on the thirty first of March, the George Bush.

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Speaker 18: That's twelve thirteen days ago. So we have three carriers

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Speaker 18: that are going to be involved with this, along with

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Speaker 18: all the other air assets that we have. So it's

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Speaker 18: gonna we can do this. And the pressure is on NATO,

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Speaker 18: the EU are allies in Japan and Korea and Australia.

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Speaker 18: How much more can they take? Are they just going

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Speaker 18: to let this go and be closed forever?

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Speaker 3: Maybe? Maybe not?

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Speaker 14: Hang on for second, Kempano, Eric Bowling. When the guys

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Speaker 14: you've talked to, these oil brokers in the in the

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Speaker 14: refiners and all these guys that are not speculators, has

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Speaker 14: has have they absorbed what President Trump's actually done, which

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Speaker 14: is not just walking away from the table last night.

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Speaker 14: He's essentially putting a full blockade, or I would say

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Speaker 14: a quarantine on anything coming in or out.

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Speaker 15: Sir.

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Speaker 17: It's a brilliant strategy. Actually, I think this is the

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Speaker 17: one that may have teeth. The problem is these guys

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Speaker 17: won't believe until they see it right, And I think

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Speaker 17: what we're missing here is that just by blockading the

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Speaker 17: mouth of Moman into the strade of Horn moves, eventually

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Speaker 17: China and India are going to have enough of it

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Speaker 17: and lean into Iron and say we need to get

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Speaker 17: this oil through and they'll be the ones who facilitate

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Speaker 17: some sort of negotiation. Again, I throw back at you, Steve,

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Speaker 17: you're the political guru here.

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Speaker 9: What's what are we asking for right now? In others?

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Speaker 17: We're going to blockade the oil, which was a brilliant

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Speaker 17: strategy because I think our US oil will probably regulate

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Speaker 17: in one hundred dollars a barrel area, which is horrible

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Speaker 17: but better than the outlook is right now. The Middle

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Speaker 17: East impruits are going to explode higher because you can't

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Speaker 17: get them, and the revnts are going to explode higher.

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Speaker 17: So what are we asking for? So we're going to

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Speaker 17: blockade this oil, which is great. We'll be fine here.

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Speaker 17: We don't need the oil, So that great?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 17: Regime change? Is it obliteration of their ability to deliver

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Speaker 17: a nuke?

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Speaker 9: I think we've done that.

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Speaker 17: If I take one step further, Captain Fatt has read

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Speaker 17: part of the Arianian statement coming out of that meeting.

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Speaker 17: If I may just Steve for a second, this is

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Speaker 17: the I ergyc within minutes of Vance leaving, which means

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Speaker 17: this was in advance of this was prepared in advance

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Speaker 17: of Vance leaving the American enemy, which is by a

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Speaker 17: wicked and dishonest or perfidious, evil and deceitful attempted to

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Speaker 17: achieve on the negotiating table what it could not achieve

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Speaker 17: through war around his inside, to reject these terms and

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Speaker 17: continue the sacred defense of its fatherland by any means necessary, military, diplomatic, meaning,

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Speaker 17: they will fight to the death. What are we asking

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Speaker 17: them to do, Steve? What do we need them to do?

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Speaker 17: I mean, is it complete overthrow of their government? Or

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Speaker 17: is it somewhere in between? Who cares? If the strait

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Speaker 17: or moves is open and they're not controlling it, it's

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Speaker 17: just a free, wide, open market like it has been

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Speaker 17: for the last thousand years.

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Speaker 9: Let's go to that.

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Speaker 14: First of I think President Trump is reiterated and been

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Speaker 14: adamant he's not looking for regime change.

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Speaker 15: He's not.

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Speaker 14: Maybe in Tel Aviv they are, but I think he

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Speaker 14: laid out in those fifteen points, particularly the total obliteration

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Speaker 14: is shut down of their not just nuclear program, but

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Speaker 14: also the nuclear material. What happens to that weither buy

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Speaker 14: it or it's got to be we got to take it,

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Speaker 14: et cetera. He's listened at those four points I think

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Speaker 14: what the blockade does, I'm gonna get Patterson here. I

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Speaker 14: think one of the things that blockade does it tries

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Speaker 14: to get everybody lined up on a certain side of

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Speaker 14: the football. NATO's had a free ride in this. Europe's

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Speaker 14: had a free ride in this, and they're very mouthy

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Speaker 14: about what they can do or can't do. The NATO

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Speaker 14: Secretary General came to the White House last week, as.

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Speaker 15: We covered live at the time. He did not go

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Speaker 15: the sticks.

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Speaker 14: They had the microphone set up and all the international media.

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Speaker 14: You know, our guy, you know, our team was there

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Speaker 14: and they he didn't come out. Why because it was

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Speaker 14: a very tough meeting. Why because I believe the President

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Speaker 14: United States said, where are you guys, and particularly where is.

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Speaker 15: Your where are your navies?

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Speaker 14: Where's the Royal Navy, the French Navy, the Italian Navy.

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Speaker 14: Let me pick three random that should be down there

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Speaker 14: helping us and straight to horror moves and so should

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Speaker 14: I think.

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Speaker 16: This doing it?

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Speaker 9: Why are we?

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Speaker 17: Why are we there, Captain Fattus, Why are we helping

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Speaker 17: you know, European nations get their crewed, or China for

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Speaker 17: that matter, or India when we don't really need that

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Speaker 17: straight up. Hoar moves open greatly. Yes there's helium. Yes

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Speaker 17: there's some petrochemicals that come through that make their way

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Speaker 17: to the United States. But generally, is it worth risking

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Speaker 17: more blood and treasure over something that really will benefit India,

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Speaker 17: China and frank the europe that couldn't even lift the

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Speaker 17: finger to help this whole situation, to eliminate the global

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Speaker 17: threat for nuclear warfare, which I believe I've heard nothing,

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Speaker 17: but we've obliterated their ability to deliver a nuclear weapon

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Speaker 17: to the United States once that objective is met.

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Speaker 15: Feel to me like, what's our next Vice president?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, we obliterated quote unquote, but the Vice president said

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Speaker 14: when he came to the microphone, yes, say this, this

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Speaker 14: is the principal reason we took off. They wouldn't agree

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Speaker 14: to the nuclear material they had, and they wouldn't agree

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Speaker 14: to any more program even if it was peaceful. They

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Speaker 14: wouldn't agree to any of our ideas in this per

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Speaker 14: They rejected everything. So hangar for one second, I'm gonna

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Speaker 14: get to your points. I want to bring Fattis in

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Speaker 14: for a second.

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Speaker 15: Sam.

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Speaker 14: On Eric's points, the Iranians and you saw by that

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Speaker 14: what the Revolutionary Guard said, I tell you what, we

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Speaker 14: only got forty seconds, so we're going to bring fetus

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Speaker 14: in right after us got treta Parsi. Eric Bowling, We've

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Speaker 14: gone now to a naval blockade that hasn't been totally

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Speaker 14: defined about what it means the specifics of that particularly.

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Speaker 15: Are we going to turn back or put over an anchorage?

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Speaker 14: As Caba Fatus says, the oil heading to the Chinese

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Speaker 14: Communist Party.

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Speaker 15: The Chinese Communist Party.

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Speaker 14: Is a strong ally of this theocratic regime in Tehran,

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Speaker 14: as they have been for decades. This blockade, I believe,

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Speaker 14: is a forcing function. Put everybody's cards on the table,

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Speaker 14: and who lines up on what side of the football?

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Speaker 14: Short commercial break back to the worm in a moment.

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Speaker 4: Stick war Room. Here's your host, Stephen K.

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Speaker 14: Our next two guests, Sam Fattis and Treata PARSI have

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Speaker 14: done it, I think a very good job of describing

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Speaker 14: not just who the enemy is, but their mindset. They

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Speaker 14: come at it from two different angles. Sam Fattus, you

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Speaker 14: spen a couple of decades your life in service to.

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Speaker 15: Your country dealing with these guys.

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Speaker 14: You know how tough they are, how radical they are,

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Speaker 14: how they many of them aspired to this radical Islamic theocracy,

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Speaker 14: this martyrdom cult.

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Speaker 15: We talked a lot about this last week.

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Speaker 14: You were not surprised at all of what happened in Islamabad, right,

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Speaker 14: and you were particularly not surprised about their their dug

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Speaker 14: in positions and the fact that they kind of gave

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Speaker 14: us the middle finger when it was over and instead

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Speaker 14: of you know, some of we've had the first meeting,

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Speaker 14: and you know it's the Revolutionary Guard could not have

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Speaker 14: been more brutal and up in our grill about what

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Speaker 14: they thought of the United States of America, what they

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Speaker 14: think of our military, what they think of the American people,

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Speaker 14: what they think of of.

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Speaker 15: Of what we stand for.

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Speaker 16: Sir, Yeah, obviously I'm surprised at all.

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Speaker 19: That's exactly what I think I said.

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Speaker 16: Was going to happen. Look, these guys are not defeated.

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Speaker 19: We keep talking about all the targets we've hit and

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Speaker 19: all of this, and God bless the United States Armed Forces.

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Speaker 19: I mean that sincerely, I come from a military family.

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Speaker 19: They're doing what they were told to do. It doesn't

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Speaker 19: change the fact that we have not defeated these guys.

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Speaker 19: It's not just like they don't get it yet. They

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Speaker 19: just need to go away and realize we won that

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Speaker 19: we have not won. So I'm all about the blockade.

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Speaker 19: I mean, I've been recommending that as well for a

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Speaker 19: long time. Let's leverage our strengths, let's fight smart, we

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Speaker 19: own the oceans, seal it off.

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Speaker 16: It's not enough.

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Speaker 19: And also it doesn't account for the fact that since

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Speaker 19: they have not quit and aren't any we're close to quitting.

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Speaker 16: They're going to respond.

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Speaker 19: They're not just going to sit there and say, you

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Speaker 19: blockaded the Gulf and I guess we lose. Now they're

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Speaker 19: going to start playing all the cards they have on

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Speaker 19: their side. They already hit the pipeline across Saudi Arabia

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Speaker 19: at least once and temporarily disrupted it. It's repaired. Now

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Speaker 19: that's the lifeline now for Saudi you can guarantee that

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Speaker 19: they're going to do everything they can to take out

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Speaker 19: that pipeline, and they're going to start hitting production facilities,

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Speaker 19: and they're going to start hitting the plants that turn

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Speaker 19: seawater into drinking water for one hundred million people, and

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Speaker 19: they're going to start at some point turning them on

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Speaker 19: their proxies in a big way worldwide against us and

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Speaker 19: our allies. So that's not me saying we lose, not

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Speaker 19: at all. Just let's not wait till that happens and

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Speaker 19: then figure out how to respond. Let's move right now

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Speaker 19: to prevent them from doing that. By the way, we're

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Speaker 19: sealing off the Gulf, that's great. We got to seal

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Speaker 19: off around completely. If we're doing this, we got to

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Speaker 19: get neighboring countries to close land borders, and we got

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Speaker 19: to seize their funds and banks all over the world,

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Speaker 19: and you know, this has to be a comprehensive thing,

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Speaker 19: not just one action. And now we're back to waiting

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Speaker 19: for him to quit.

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Speaker 15: This is hangover a second. You bring up a key point.

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Speaker 14: This is one of the This has kind of got

881
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Speaker 14: buried in the a lot of the proclamations that came out,

882
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 14: but one of the biggest sticking points was the twenty

883
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Speaker 14: seven billion that turns out that they've got banks all

884
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Speaker 14: over not even discussing I think it's the five hundred.

885
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 15: Billion in the in the pirate, COVID, Dubai.

886
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 14: But their ability to get their hands on cash money

887
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 14: is vital to this regime. You know, in the state collapse,

888
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 14: you devolve down to a barter system. These guys are smart,

889
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 14: they're savvy, and they understand they got assets all over

890
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 14: the place they need access to. One of the biggest

891
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Speaker 14: negotiating points was we need access to that twenty seven

892
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Speaker 14: billion and somehow you give a sanctions relief. Besson's economic

893
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 14: warfare in the January folks was working. Now it does

894
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Speaker 14: have implications against the dollar because people say, I got

895
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Speaker 14: to get off of this thing. I can't let Trump

896
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Speaker 14: and his mad men choke us down with the swift

897
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Speaker 14: system and the fact that they got access to all

898
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Speaker 14: the dollar denominated assets in the world. We got to

899
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Speaker 14: do something else, but it was the economic destroying their

900
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Speaker 14: currency is what drove those people into the streets, of

901
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Speaker 14: which thirty thousand were then slaughtered. But there's no doubt

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00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 14: the economic warfare part that a naval blockade, Sam, do

903
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Speaker 14: you agree is the instrument of economic warfare from time immemorial.

904
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Speaker 14: This so you put a quarantine on somebody, This is

905
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Speaker 14: the Brits perfected this, sir.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, Look, you're one hundred percent right. I mean, let

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Speaker 19: we are now finally psychologically moving to the part of

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Speaker 19: this where we fight smart and we use our leverage

909
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 19: against their weakness instead of just being wetted to there's

910
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Speaker 19: only we're just going to bomb things, and I don't

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Speaker 19: mean to trivialize that we've we've caused massive damage, but

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Speaker 19: we have all kinds of other capabilities here. I mean,

913
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Speaker 19: this is a much more productive, smarter, more strategic way

914
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Speaker 19: of approaching than where we were a few weeks ago,

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Speaker 19: when people were feeling locked into we got to start.

916
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Speaker 16: Landing marines on Irani and soil. We have huge leverage.

917
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 19: We ought to take all of their money, and frankly,

918
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 19: if they're not going to if they're not going to

919
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 19: get their heads around, you know, dealing with us, then

920
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 19: we keep all of their money.

921
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Speaker 16: As far as I'm concerned.

922
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Speaker 19: If they if there's Iranian oil in a ship and

923
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 19: we've given everybody notice that you can't go in there,

924
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 19: we take the Iranian oil and sell the Iranian oil

925
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Speaker 19: and keep that money too.

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Speaker 16: Let them, let them starve.

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Speaker 19: As a as a regime. This is a smart way

928
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Speaker 19: to approach this, but it's got to.

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Speaker 16: Be and longer.

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Speaker 14: Hang on, Sam, I need to stick around. We've got

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Speaker 14: Captain Fattus, we got Eric Bowling, treat A. Parsy's going

932
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Speaker 14: to join us. It's one of things we try to

933
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Speaker 14: get the information, get you up to speed your learning curve.

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Speaker 14: With Sam and I and others are talking about Scott

935
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Speaker 14: Besson on economic warfare, there's a flip side of that.

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Speaker 14: Remember there's no easy choices when you're at playing at

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Speaker 14: this level. Every choice has a dark underbelly too. One

938
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Speaker 14: of the reasons the end of the dollar Empire they

939
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Speaker 14: want to get off the United States is the prime

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Speaker 14: reserve currency is exactly this point to saying, hey, look,

941
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Speaker 14: the Americans have too much leverage overs. When push comes

942
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Speaker 14: to shove, Sam Fattus's voice will be heard and they say,

943
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Speaker 14: not just let's freeze it, let's seize it, and let's

944
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Speaker 14: seize our oil.

945
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Speaker 15: And monetize it.

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Speaker 14: Economic warfare writ large this morning in the world Treata

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Speaker 14: Parsi's up next for a break