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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive on Dale Ally here with Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson and Matt Before we start today, I didn't want

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Speaker 1: to say that express our condolences to the to the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: particularly the Rooney family, over the death of Patricia Rooney

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Speaker 1: died over the weekend. The uh, the matriarch of the

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Speaker 1: the Rooney family, and uh I used to see her

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Speaker 1: and just very classy lady. Very She will be missed

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Speaker 1: by the family and by the Steeler organization, no doubt. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure. And personally I never got to know or

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Speaker 1: obviously I had that honor, but i mean someone that's

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Speaker 1: a massive, massive contributions that many people will never know.

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Speaker 1: And I do urge people. I'm sure you can find it,

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Speaker 1: like on the NFL app or you know, searching the

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Speaker 1: NFL network or whatever. But I remember I sat down

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Speaker 1: with my wife, who's not a football fan, and my

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Speaker 1: wife's mom, who's really not a football fan. And we

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Speaker 1: watched the special on Mrs Rooney and there was I

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Speaker 1: think three or four other It was similar, Mrs mc

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Speaker 1: caskey and Mrs Ford and I mean they were all

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Speaker 1: and you make it a real appreciation for her and

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Speaker 1: all three of those, all four of them actually, So

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Speaker 1: that was something I would check out to. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was good stuff. And of course, uh, you're listening here

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Speaker 1: to the Drive, but you can also listen to this all. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we have a number of shows here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: You can always download our shows where you get your

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Speaker 1: podcast where you can subscribe. That's what you gotta do

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Speaker 1: is send them straight to your phone every night. Right,

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Speaker 1: I subscribe and sometimes I don't always really listen, but

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean that's I'm all. I listened to

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Speaker 1: our podcasts. I mean that's the way the way to

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Speaker 1: just downloaders, fade your phone. Yeah you can do that

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Speaker 1: on Apple and all those all those times. So there's

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Speaker 1: lots of different ways to listen. You can listen to

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Speaker 1: the Drive or Steelers Blitz. So we're doing shows constantly

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Speaker 1: but let's let's start talking some Steelers stuff here, and well,

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Speaker 1: not much going on with the Steelers right now, and

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect there to be because of uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: the death the weekend that influences the whole organization. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you know, people wondering what's going on with the

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Speaker 1: offensive line coach, what's going on with those kind of things.

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Speaker 1: Just tap the brakes a little bit. Let's people are

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Speaker 1: more a little bit before. But the super Bowl coming

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Speaker 1: up this weekend, and of course the Steelers not involved

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Speaker 1: in that. But I did see uh and this was

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Speaker 1: on ESPN UM It's a story titled the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: timelines for all thirty two teams. Who's in the mix?

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Speaker 1: Getting closer and years away? Years plural? They broke these

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Speaker 1: down into uh was six different category. Yeah. Sure, the

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Speaker 1: clear cut contenders right now obviously the Chiefs without question. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it could be for a while. Yeah, Tampa Bay, Yeah, obviously,

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Speaker 1: I would imagine. I mean, I would think they're still

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Speaker 1: the Bills, I agree, certainly, trying to in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: The Packers. I do too. I mean, I think their

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Speaker 1: division is really weak. And then I'm sure we'll talk golf.

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Speaker 1: Staffordshire will get to that. But that the as just

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Speaker 1: begging for the Packers to win it again and then

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that exactly. You want to talk about windows,

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Speaker 1: that's a team that has no window remaining no more.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we could make the argument that they had

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Speaker 1: the best roster in the league this year. I gotn't

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Speaker 1: a story over the weekend about the Steelers way and

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Speaker 1: the Steelers won their last Super Bowl in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and eight, there have been nine different quarterbacks who have

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Speaker 1: three times, so nine quarterbacks have won the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: And Brady's wanted since eight other guys have won at once, right,

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Speaker 1: measured by Brady, the Brady standard. But that's not fair.

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Speaker 1: comparing Ewing to Jordan's. I mean it's he's so far

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Speaker 1: in that time period cents of Steelers when their last

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, they've been there once. Yes, they've been to

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Speaker 1: the Conference Championship a couple of times obviously not um

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Speaker 1: In weeks sixteen or seventeen. They're always in it, and

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Speaker 1: Tomlin has never had a losing season. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: two more wins than Peyton. They've got essentially the same

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Speaker 1: Tomlin's been there twice and tom has been there one

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Speaker 1: more time. Nobody talks about, hey, Sean Payton should be fired.

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Speaker 1: Never hear that. No, we've talked about this a lot

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Speaker 1: and getting my homes helps. But I feel like Carol Peyton, Harbaugh, Tomlin,

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Speaker 1: and you don't hear that rumbling with them. I mean

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Speaker 1: but he's also neglected. The defense is a lot over

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Speaker 1: But it was brought no, no, but it was brought

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Speaker 1: the Saints, no question. I mean steel has been a

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Speaker 1: really good offensive line. Saints have been better. They're better.

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Speaker 1: They don't have anything close to Kamara since Lambell left,

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Speaker 1: weapons are probably close. When you at him up. But

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Speaker 1: Michael Thomas taking Michael Thomas having a draft. Their defenses

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Speaker 1: as loaded as Pittsburgh. Absolutely, and they're constructed differently because

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Speaker 1: they go they're a little more aggressive to go outside

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Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, I think there's some similarity to those teams.

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Speaker 1: Saints next year. I would be willing to Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: be a lot lower in New Orleans. Yeah. Um So anyway,

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Speaker 1: The Ravens are a team that's considered on the CUSP.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I think they've got some work to do. Yes, again,

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Speaker 1: we talked, we'll talk about this all offseason. Everyone's gonna

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Speaker 1: to show, you know, to present it through another team's eyes,

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Speaker 1: the mix. But boy, that division is tough. Yeah, no kidding.

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Speaker 1: believe it is seventy million dollars wrapped up in three

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Speaker 1: even be more so. Essentially, about half of their salary

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Speaker 1: a bit here, but because it's a fun trade, their

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Speaker 1: defense I think was when it's all said and done,

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Speaker 1: would would probably rank number one for me this past year.

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Speaker 1: Body of works. Steelers are closed, but I thought the

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Speaker 1: Rams are a little better. However, they lose their young

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Speaker 1: gonna hurt defenses, which this doesn't bode well for the

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Speaker 1: Steelers aren't as predictable year to year as offenses. The

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Speaker 1: Rams were extremely healthy on defense last year too, Like

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Speaker 1: Like let's say Aaron Donald does miss time. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: they're devastating. You saw what happened in the playoff game.

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Speaker 1: the l He Matt Wrinkston and met course. Over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: you know more about and I think they can get

424
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Speaker 1: out of the contract after this season. I think it's

425
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: one of your badness and then you're committed. But I

426
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: don't know that you're I don't know. I mean they're

427
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: better off. They won this deal in my opinion, so

428
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Rams lost it, But I

429
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: think it's a good deal for the Lions. Yeah, because

430
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: you got a court, you gotta starting quarterback, and you've

431
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: got a bunch of picks, right, I mean, you have

432
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 1: a guy you can more than line up and play

433
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: with on an opening day, this former first round pick

434
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 1: that's been to the super Bowl, and he has warts,

435
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: but he might be the answer. And as you mentioned

436
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 1: in the previous segment that the NFC West is a

437
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: West is brutal North. I mean you could you could

438
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: see the I don't know if you if the if

439
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: the Rams finished last in that division, but they could.

440
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 1: That's probably a battle, you know what I mean, Like

441
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: they're they're all equal. Where the Lions aren't far from

442
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: being the best team that's division possibly. I mean, once

443
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: Rogers moves on, they're well, they're far from being the

444
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: best team anywhere, don't get me wrong. I mean they've

445
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: had I mixed feelings about the deal. I don't think

446
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: there's a winner and loser. I really see both sides.

447
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: But I'm also a Stafford guy. I think I like

448
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 1: Stafford more than you do. I mean, I think he's fine.

449
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't give up, you know, my starting quarterback in

450
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: two first rounds and the third round pick for him.

451
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 1: No mortgaging my future for a thirty three year old quarterback.

452
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 1: They're in it to win it, and they I think

453
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 1: they felt like that's fine. But I think they think

454
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure I disagree that if they had

455
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: Stafford right now, that'd still be playing. I don't know

456
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: that that's the case. I mean, Donald being hurt in

457
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: Green Bay hurt them, but I think they'd have a

458
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: lot better chance of still being in it. And if

459
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: that's the case, I think it's worth it. And those

460
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: Lions first rounders that they're getting a year from now

461
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: and two years from now, I assume the Rams think

462
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna be twenty five or later, like they're not.

463
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: But the bottom of everybody, everybody assumes that. Everyone assumes,

464
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 1: I mean as before you assume that that you assume

465
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: that when you make a trade like that to pick

466
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: is number sixteen. I think there's a much better chance

467
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: that it's in that range and there than it is

468
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: twenty five or later. I don't think next year. I mean,

469
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: their division is hard, but I think the Rams are

470
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: a playoff team. But again, they're they're one injury away

471
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 1: from one of those stars to having the their model,

472
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: the whole bottom could fall out. A year from now.

473
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: We might be like boy, that trade as well as

474
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: all those lack of first round picks. I mean, this

475
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: is the same franchise A gave Jared Goff that ridiculous contract,

476
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: that was the word the mistake, gave Todd Gurley a

477
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: ridiculous contract. I mean, they've made mistakes after mistake and

478
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: now they're just kind of trying to cover up those

479
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: mistakes by throwing their picks at it. They are, But

480
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: I thought they were really a good team down the

481
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: stretch and with a great defense. See they were a

482
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: Jecko on high team to meet, because one week they'd

483
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 1: look great and then the next week they go out

484
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: and lose to somebody they had no business losing to.

485
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: And they did that all season. Really they were. But

486
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: the offense really got actually very similar to the Steelers

487
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 1: in terms of just short passing. And I think they

488
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: think that Will Stafford will change that. Well, there's no

489
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 1: doubt that that will change that. Uh, you know, the

490
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: offense became the liability. Can you keep him healthy? You

491
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: don't have any for you know, you're you're you're starting

492
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: left tackle is what thirty eight years old, he won't

493
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: be around much longer, if at all. So now you're

494
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: gonna replace him, and you don't have first round pick,

495
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: the first round pick, and you haven't had first round

496
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: picks in the in the in the pipeline. It's a

497
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: really interesting approach. I mean, I'm not that that's how

498
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: I mean. Then you have to go out and pay

499
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: for another left tackle on the on the open. Mine

500
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 1: might have to have to pay Stafford soon too, because

501
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: he's so too much of a bargain. Like people that

502
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: the one the stealers the trade Stafford. He's really cost

503
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: effective for two years, but when they get to camp,

504
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: he might be like I want to contract certainly after

505
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: a good year, he's gonna I mean, he's not gonna

506
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: stay cheap. And he and again he's thirty three, so

507
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: you love it. It's broken his back twice. That's something

508
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: I can't defend, Like I am a Stafford defender. I

509
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: was just on the air with Martin Madden. He's like

510
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: he's never taken him the playoffs. He gets hurt all

511
00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: the time. I think he's a good he's a good quarterback. Um,

512
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to think of what year it

513
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: was they were at one point, the one time that

514
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: they beat the Path, I think they were seven and

515
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: five and the Packers were and the Caldwell when they

516
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: were doing pretty well and the Lions were seven and

517
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: five and didn't win another football game. Yeah, like they

518
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 1: just can't. That's who they are, right And I don't

519
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: know if that's the quarterback, if that's the organization as

520
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: a whole. I think Patricia had a lot to do

521
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: with that. I think that was a really bad higher

522
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 1: And I'm making excuses for Stafford. I'll be the first

523
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: to say it, because I think his tape is really

524
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: really strong. It's better than Bends, it's better than Goffs

525
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: at this stage. But he has warts, you know. I

526
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: mean the track record isn't. His resume is not strong.

527
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way around that. But I mean, now,

528
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what the other offers were. There's rumors

529
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: that two first from Washington. I don't buy that. I don't.

530
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: I'm not buying that either. I mean, they got they

531
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: got to first in this deal, and they got a

532
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. Who was Washington, Washington gonna trade you Alex Smith. No, Yeah,

533
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: he didn't want that, but it'd be nice to get

534
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: the first this year. Yeah, I think for the lot

535
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: what the Lions are thinking here as well. We got

536
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: a quarterback that hey, if we draft one this year,

537
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: we can flip him next we can flip Golf next

538
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 1: year for he's still an asset. Yeah. Yeah, so essentially

539
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: you look at golf like he's a first round pick

540
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: as well. So essentially they got three first round picks

541
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: in this deal and third this year, which will help him,

542
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: and they made good use of that. I think big big,

543
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: it's a big cost like that really said that what

544
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: this did a it screwed They screwed the Colts because

545
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: they can't get Stafford. Now, who are they getting because

546
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: they're not getting to Shawn Watson. Houston is not trading

547
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: him within the division and there's a big difference between

548
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: Darnold or whoever else, whoever else they might get. It

549
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: is not going to be anywhere near like if Stafford

550
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: had gone to Indianapolis. Now I'm now I'm all in

551
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: on Okay, Stafford's gonna win a playoff game because that's

552
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: definitely the favorite division because they're deep and they've got

553
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: a division that they can need only win, you know, um,

554
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was good news for the a f C.

555
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: To me, it's also I first of all, I don't

556
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: I still don't believe that Watson is going to be traded.

557
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: But if he is, this just set the floor. See,

558
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: I don't think it changes the watch. Here's the thing

559
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: I want to say, you're not taking less than this.

560
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: But here's how I think the trade really goes. When

561
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: they sit down behind the scenes. I think they say,

562
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: we'll give you a third this year and next year's

563
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: first for Stafford, but we can't take Stafford off your

564
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: hands with golf. You have to give us. Will also

565
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: give you a first for you to take golf because

566
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: we have to get him off the books. Like, I

567
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: don't think it's an Osweiler for a second deal because

568
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: golf has value, but he had to go to make

569
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: this deal. So I think that the Lions got golf

570
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: plus picks for nothing. Perhaps, but any any key that

571
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: does change most of the teams that would take on.

572
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: For example, case it's the Jets. Let's say the Jets, Well,

573
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: then they gotta throw Donald into that deal. Why, well,

574
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna go somewhere. He's gonna go somewhere he can

575
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: go to Indy. You know, if Houston, that's kind of

576
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: like the to a conversation like, well, you'll send him

577
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: to in a bunch of picks or Donald a couple

578
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: of pigs. If you're Houston and like I don't like

579
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: to Uh, or I don't like Darnal. Yeah, that's that's

580
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: trade him somewhere else and then get back to me.

581
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: We'll listen. But I'm not taking less than two first

582
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: round draft picks, and I'm not taking a third. I'm

583
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm going three first round draft picks. But I think

584
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: that's always been the price. I think he's four first round,

585
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: which is why he's not going anywhere. Nobody's gonna give

586
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: up four first round I don't care who it is.

587
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that's unprecedented. In the end of it's

588
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: just it just doesn't happen. I don't think. I think

589
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen is cooler heads are gonna prevail there.

590
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: He's gonna sit down with them. They're gonna sit down

591
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: with him again. David Culley is is a knowing him

592
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: a little bit. He'll sit down across the table from David.

593
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: They'll they'll iron this out, everything will be you know, like, look,

594
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: we've got a plan in place. When it's built around you,

595
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: We're not ready to blow this whole thing up. Um, yes,

596
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: we could trade you, but you know you're yeah, do

597
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: you want to go to are the Jets? Is the

598
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: Jets a better spot than here? That don't have any picks?

599
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: Don't have it. They don't have any picks, And anywhere

600
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: you go is not gonna have any picks to build

601
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: around you. We have this conversation on Friday, and on

602
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: Friday I thought, Dale, you're crazy. He's getting He's getting traded.

603
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: And I thought about it over the weekend a lot,

604
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: and I really think, to your point, I think it's

605
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: less likely now than I thought on Friday, because I

606
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: think that's the only reason you hire Callie is you know,

607
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: we I made fun of him a little bit, like

608
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: what's he done? And he's old. I think they want

609
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: the adult in the room to come sit down and

610
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: be like, let's all talk this out, you know. And

611
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: I think that's Callie's whole job. And I don't know

612
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: if I agree with this or not. It sounds a

613
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: little nuts to me since he's never coached in his life.

614
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: But what I've heard since the Callie hiring is he's

615
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: really just a placeholder for Josh mccownll teach Josh McCown

616
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: how to be the same thing. Yeah, which I guess.

617
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: Josh is the most impressive dude in the world, and

618
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: that's why he lasted till he's forty some years old.

619
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: But he's never coached the game in his life. You know,

620
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm here. I'm here for a couple of years, your buddy, Josh. Yeah,

621
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: you know, and which at least is a plan. You

622
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: hold the fourth down, get the Shawn happy, to get

623
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: our house in order, be adult. Yeah, and Josh will

624
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: take this thing to the next level when he's ready to. Shawn,

625
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: you're twenty five years old. We're gonna build this around you.

626
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: We just gave you a brand new contract last Year're

627
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: gonna make forty million dollars in two years. We love you.

628
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: And here's all there. You know, here's the proof. And

629
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: he has no leverage none, none. I mean the bargaining

630
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: agreements a fine per day that you miss in O, T,

631
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: A S and training every practice right yeah, mandatory, Yeah,

632
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: there's no And they can ask for a portion, a

633
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: healthy portion of his twenty three million dollar signing. But hellions,

634
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: they could make it ugly, they can't make it real. Hug, Look,

635
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: you don't want to play for us. He's gonna cost

636
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: you a ganda of it. All in the media and

637
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: fan perception is the Texans are the bad guy. They

638
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: traded Hopkins, O'Brien's unlikable, all this stuff, and the agree

639
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: with all that O'Brien is unlikable, and they traded Hopkins,

640
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,719
Speaker 1: they gave him away. But Watson's a bad guy, and

641
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: this and this. You don't get to pick who you know,

642
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: who your boss is. You don't get to pick where

643
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: you do. Signed a huge deal a year ago. This

644
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: is again, this is not the NBA, right, right, right,

645
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: But I think he would cost four first, which is

646
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: the equivalent not gonna happen in the NFL. I just

647
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: don't see it, or three, with one of them being

648
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: the Jets or Dolphins, and quite three and quite frankly,

649
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: if I'm him, I don't want to go to a

650
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: team that gave him problem to Yeah, oh my god,

651
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: they all have extra picks so the next two years,

652
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the reasons why he wants out

653
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: of Houston is because they don't have any picks and

654
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: they can't get this thing better. If you go somewhere

655
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: and do the same thing, you're just you're stripping them.

656
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: Just done the same thing to them. Does it make

657
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: any sense? I don't know. If I'm the Jets, So

658
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: the Jets much more than Miami to me, because Miami

659
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: is New England through and through New England. Would never

660
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: trade three first round picks for anybody, I mean, but

661
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: the Jets, if I can trade Darnald to somebody for

662
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: a second. The Jets been against themselves for Levy on

663
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: Bell difference, not the smartest franchise track records back. But

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Speaker 1: if they get turned Donald into a two and they

665
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: have to pick first round picks this year, you're not

666
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: so short on picks. That would be crazy, you know.

667
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: And your CAP's face and maybe more importantly, he's on

668
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: all the New York billboards. He's the new Joe Namath,

669
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, the face of the place. Joe Nameth did

670
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: a lot of losing their too. Everybody. Yeah, but Houston

671
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: shouldn't let him go. No, they absolutely, they absolutely should not.

672
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: And and they again they hold the lever, they hold

673
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: the hammer like okay, you can hold out. It's gonna

674
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: cost you this quarterback. Derby's interesting though, I mean, two

675
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: big chips just fell, and right when I thought, man,

676
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: there's back to the Schefter tweet about eighteen different guys. Well,

677
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,959
Speaker 1: two already fell. Who are the other big names besides Watson? Though,

678
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: being like who are answers? You know, like Donald's interesting,

679
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: you know when should be interesting. I don't think he's

680
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: going and I don't think he's going anywhere. Jimmy could move,

681
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: but I think answers, I don't think he's going anywhere.

682
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: I think only if they get Watson, and I don't

683
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 1: think they don't have to get Watson unless you're gonna

684
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: trade Bosa. Not trade Bosa. Right, So that's these are

685
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: non starters. Yeah, it's interesting. It is. It's got a

686
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: lot more to calm. But yeah, let's take a break

687
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: to me. The biggest losers Indianapolis. Yeah, the biggest winner

688
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: might be the Packers, like big Moon walked through that division,

689
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: Like Aaron, why would you want to leave? We'll see

690
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: what I see what the Vikings do this offseason, they

691
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: might be a little better. The event should be back,

692
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: you know a little with the Bears. Who the Bears

693
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: quarterback and the Bears next year. It's bad, Yeah, really bad. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williams and I'm Dale Ally. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to the Drive here on Steelers in Nation Radio. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna take another break. We'll be back right after this

697
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Speaker 1: your tunes about Drive on Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lally here

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00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 1: with Matt Williamson and Matt. The Senior Bowl was over

700
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: the weekend and uh, an interesting game. There was some

701
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: guys who didn't play that was a little disappointed that

702
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: we didn't get to see them. But you know, uh,

703
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: I think overall that uh, some guys helped themselves. Some

704
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, some other guys maybe didn't because they didn't

705
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: perform quite as well. But certainly some guys there to

706
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: look at from a Steeler perspective and say that guy's

707
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: a ton of guys. Yeah. My take on the Senior

708
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: Bowl this week is every year that's kind to when

709
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: I start, I switched my NFL Scout hat to college Scout.

710
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: Had a little bit. As soon as the aves the

711
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: championship games are over and Senior Big Week rolls around,

712
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: I start to learn the names and an idea of

713
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: what they're like, and um, it was no different this year.

714
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: I was a little mad at the NFL network that

715
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: they didn't broadcast the practices though, I mean, it's so

716
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: much footage that usually is out. I saw some clips

717
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: out there on stuff on YouTube and Twitter and whatnot,

718
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: and more will roll in. And I've read a lot,

719
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: and I watched the game, and I watched the recap

720
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: and all those things. And I do think you can

721
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: find some um eleven on eleven stuff, you know, it's available,

722
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: But the coverage wasn't as good. But my take of

723
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: just the participants as a whole was this was a

724
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: really deep and good group. Well, they invited a few

725
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: more guys and they typically do yeah right right right,

726
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: just to get some stars, Yeah, to get them in there,

727
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: and some guys who hadn't played. That's another thing, you know,

728
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: they got them in there, you get to see them

729
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: for the first time. This is Daniel Jeremiah's ten guys

730
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: who helped themselves. So let's go through that list. Carlos

731
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: Boogie Bash him the defensive end out of wake Forest.

732
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: He reminds me of Bud a little bit, a little bit. Yeah,

733
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: he's he's kind of a four three end type, but

734
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: he's okay. Maybe he could drop. He's a power player.

735
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: He's like two. Sometimes he'll kick in over a guard. Um.

736
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: I wonder if he would be able to drop much,

737
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: but I think that's less important to the Steelers now

738
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: than ever. But he kind of looks like Bud, I

739
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: bet when he walks in the room, probably a slightly

740
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: less Buds, a little more explosive. I'm sure. Michael Carter,

741
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 1: the running back out of North Carolina. UM, he's about

742
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: a two. He's a where Anthony McFarlane had the bulk

743
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: up at the combine to get the two hundred or

744
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: whatever he was. This guy's a natural two pound but

745
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: he's not little. Yeah. He can carry down guy, and

746
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: he wasn't at North Carolina. He's a good receiver. He

747
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: has some R traits to me, which is great. Can

748
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: the Steeler here's a good conversation. We both think they

749
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: need UH Williams his his UH counterpart, the bigger guy

750
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 1: or a nag at number one. That's to twenty plus.

751
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if it has to be to twenty plus,

752
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: but you'd like him to be at least to ten. Yeah,

753
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: maybe to T plus doesn't have to be the cut off,

754
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: but in every down back and I don't think Carter is.

755
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: In a perfect world, wouldn't it be awesome to add

756
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: both those North Carolina backs? You know what I mean,

757
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: you'd really short yourself somewhere else. But I mean we've

758
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: seen teams like I mean, the Packers did that. They

759
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: drafted Jones and Williams. I mean they weren't both super

760
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: high picks. But tell Snell and those guys to leave,

761
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, that would be a

762
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: nice addition to and maybe you don't take a receiver.

763
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: Then you look at the uh Carter again. Carter's two

764
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: hundred pounds. That's the same size as Christian McCaffrey. So

765
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: it's not like it's unheard of too. And the guy

766
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: moved to piles. He I mean, he he ran through tackles,

767
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: he had showed good contact balance. I mean I went

768
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: into that thing. Well, Javonte Williams is the obvious guy

769
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: that I would rather have there. I'm not so sure

770
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: that Carter's not wouldn't be on my list. Yeah, and

771
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: maybe have to reconsider that too. I mean, the McCaffrey

772
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: thing is a good point. And you could sign a

773
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: hide or somebody cheating. You can. You can get somebody

774
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: to be your is going to bring some of that

775
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: no matter what. And you just I mean, you can

776
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: run those guys on first and second down. If you

777
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: get into third and one, you're not gonna run him anyways,

778
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: You're not. You need juice at that position. And he

779
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: has jewice. He has juice juice to spare. How many

780
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: guys have they had to be linebacker coverage time and

781
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: time again. You know Samuels doesn't know he's to speaking

782
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: of Samuel's this is the guy we talked about off

783
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: the air, Dimitric felt In the wide receiver running back

784
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: out of u c l A. This is what Jaylen

785
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: Samuels should be. That's what you should be. A guy

786
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: who's a running backslash wide receiver, not a running backslash

787
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: tight end. Right right. That's that's all you need. That

788
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: that's enough said. And I guess Felton story was he

789
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: came to u c l A as a slot receiver,

790
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: they converted him to running back and then he went

791
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: back and basically played all receiver this week and lit

792
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: it up and lit it up. Guy, you could and

793
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: he's he's His problem is he's like a hundred and

794
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: eighty five pounds. Um. It's a terrible comparison because it's

795
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: always I always go back to well running back to

796
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: you remind you of Jim Brown. But he's he could

797
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: be Tyree Hill in terms of not near his explosive

798
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: or fast or deep threat, but he's that running. Hill

799
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: was like that a college where he was running back receiver, short, stocky, weapon, weapon,

800
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: bounces off tackles, elusive balance. I shouldn't have mentioned Tyreek

801
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: Hill's name because he's not like that. He hasn't run

802
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: a four one, you know, but he's good and any

803
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: team could use him. Side note, there a lot of

804
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: receivers at this at this event, and a lot of

805
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: them where I think were better for the slot and

806
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,479
Speaker 1: even both running backs we just mentioned could line. Yeah,

807
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: the Stevens need that absolutely if you're gonna if you're

808
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: gonna run a met Canada style offense. We saw some

809
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: of this early in the season where they were hitting,

810
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, the handoffs to the to the running back

811
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: or the jet sweep motion that there could be jet

812
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: guys absolutely like Tyreek. I shouldn't mentioned Tyreek, but yeah,

813
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: I didn't watch this guy as much because I wasn't

814
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: watching the safeties necessarily. But Richie Grant, the safety ft

815
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: out of the UCF. Yeah, he Um, he's very skinny.

816
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 1: He's like a hundred and seventy nine pounds, great ball skills.

817
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: I think he may even came there as a receiver.

818
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: Um turned to safety. Was all around the field and

819
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: a lot of this is stuff I've just read, but

820
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: from several handful of different people that were there. Um

821
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: that consistently made plays on the ball all year round,

822
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: played a lot of man coverage like safeties at the

823
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl of a tough gig. Absolutely go play man

824
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: coverage against a wide out or an athletic tight end,

825
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: and they may have not played any man coverage at

826
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: all in college. You know, it's just been a deep

827
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: guy and that's where he does well. So they often

828
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: get exposed. And I guess he stepped up in a big,

829
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: big way. So people were talking about him as like

830
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: maybe a fourth and now a second. Yeah, like that's

831
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: where you can really help yourself. Uh, this is another

832
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: guy that really helped himself. Robert Hanzi, the offensive lineman

833
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: out of Notre Dame, a lot of people were talking

834
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: about the other Notre Dame lineman there, and this guy

835
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: came out and showed that he could play guard, he

836
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: can play tackle. Could he be a center to I

837
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: need think a little more homework on him too, but

838
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: he was. He was the one they were raving about

839
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: on that Carter touchdown and pushing the pow and all that.

840
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: Interesting dude, though, I mean there's a lot of lineman.

841
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: I think it's a deeper old line class seul aside.

842
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: I don't see a lot of like Hall of famers,

843
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: but guys who are going to come in and start. Yeah.

844
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: I think it's more to pick from the usual, which

845
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: sets up great for Pittsburgh. Yeah. Another one of those

846
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: receivers was k Johnson, wide receiver out of South Dakota State.

847
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: Didn't know much about him, but a getting a slot

848
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,959
Speaker 1: type that Mason players in the game. Uh team didn't

849
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: play this year at South Dakota State. They were out

850
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: this year. Mac Jones apparently did. He didn't play in

851
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: the game play the game, but apparently Um when he

852
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: was in practice looked really good, throwing the football very

853
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: much in command. Um Again, this is second information, very

854
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: very accurate. His his claim to fame at Bama was

855
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: no mistakes. I mean, he's ice man that never puts

856
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: the ball in harm's way, very smart with the football.

857
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: I guess that all that stuff translated. Um, you know

858
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: you and I both have take Pro Football Focus with

859
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: a grain assault. But just what he did on the

860
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: field this year, his Pro Football Focus grade was better

861
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: than Burrows a year ago, which they both had a

862
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: lot of help around him. Don't get me wrong, he

863
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: was interesting. He might have been playing with like six

864
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: first rounders on his offensive line and in his skill positions,

865
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: right right, Actually, I mean yes, but less than two. Uh,

866
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: because Waddle got hurt. And you know, Waddle at four

867
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: or two had four first round receivers. He had one.

868
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,959
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge to a guy. I'm not either.

869
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: I wasn't last year. I've watched his his quota, his

870
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: his big tape when he was coming you know, coming out,

871
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: and well he can he's he's healthy, he can do this,

872
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: and I'm watching and it was all checkdowns, checkdowns, And

873
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: that's what he is. That's what he will think. He's

874
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: an extreme athlete. He doesn't, you know, he hasn't Andy's

875
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: injury concerns. I want to give him a better for

876
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: the doubt because one year ago we were talking about, boy,

877
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: he's super injured. You know, he can even play his

878
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: rookie year and he didn't get the preseason and all

879
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: that stuff like everybody else. But with his bad injury,

880
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: I thought that Mayo held him back more because he

881
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: used to look more twitched up, you know as and

882
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: he didn't this year. He looked like a little bit

883
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: of a dragon anchor a little bit quick. On Mac Jones,

884
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: what's the chances it happens every year? Like we always say, uh,

885
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: it'll be a late first or you know, four these

886
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: first four quarterbacks won't go that high. First one quarterbacks

887
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: could go in the top seven. Yeah. And then if

888
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 1: you're the Panthers who coached mac Jones, do you take him?

889
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: If you like him, me take him. You think you'd

890
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: like him, me take him. You know, like we didn't

891
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: think Daniel Jones would be as high pick or you know,

892
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 1: going down the list of guys who are surprised first

893
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: round draft picks. Panthers coached him at the Senior Bowl.

894
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Caroline is a sneaky landing spot

895
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: for ted I don't think Teddy Bridgewater will be their

896
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: quarterback and no, um, he screams Cap Casory a year

897
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: from now to. We talked a little bit about this

898
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: guy last week. Quinn Miners the offensive lineman at Wisconsin

899
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: White Water and you saw his tape and he's pancaking

900
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: guys left and right. And I don't know if everybody

901
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: caught this on the on the broadcast. Um, but works

902
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: out with the Watch Brothers in Wisconsin. Yeah right, I

903
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: mean he's I guess he goes to Canada. They were

904
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: showing this stuff. He is Canadian, Canadian. He goes this

905
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: fishing village and throws logs around like Balboa and in

906
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: in Russia and he had the I guess he's extremely personal,

907
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: super small school and if you watch a buch of

908
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: the practice stuff, but he had the he had like

909
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: the abs out to me, he looked I'm watching him.

910
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: When they first turned the tape on, he looked like

911
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: b J. Finney. Yeah a lot, yeah yeah yeah. And

912
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: he's not a chubby guy. He's not like he's ripped. No,

913
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: he's he's barrel chested. Yeah. Um, rumor has it. I

914
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: mean people thought he would be a fifth, sixth round guy.

915
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: He's going in the second he's gone. He might be

916
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: the second round pick. To be very honest with you

917
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: and the wat connection, I like, that's exactly what happened

918
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: to Alan mor Pett when he went there. Right, you

919
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: mash everybody at a tiny level. It's hard to get

920
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: your credit real quick. To last guys here, uh, Quincy

921
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: roche Ed drusher out of Miami. He was he was

922
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: on our draft mock draft last week. Uh. And then

923
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: it will be a second round er now quite possibly. Uh.

924
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: And then Deante Smith, offensive tackle out of East Carolina.

925
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: There were a couple of tackles the Cincinnati kid Smith,

926
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, but I know the sense he kid

927
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: was he was a defensive lineman and he's got that.

928
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: I love those guys. Yeah, the versions, he's got the

929
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: athleticism for the defensive lineman. Yeah yeah. And that might

930
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: be the in turn, this is a much bigger conversation,

931
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: but what type of tackle should the Steelers look for?

932
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the second third round guy that was a

933
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: defensive lineman that might need a year, you know, with

934
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: a big upside coach, and you play him as there

935
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: is your moo is your tight end A little bit

936
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: here and there, and he doesn't need to start the

937
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: second you have a banner and choosy that might be

938
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: a type of guy therell be after. Yeah, we're gonna

939
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: take a break. He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly

940
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 1: or listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

941
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna do our next mock

942
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: draft alright right after this is the drive with Dale

943
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: Lolly and Matt Williamson on Home of the Black and

944
00:48:48,280 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: Goals Steelers Nation Radio. We are back and we are

945
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: doing our regular mock draft here on the Pro Football

946
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: Network dot Com. Mock draft. I hope there's somewhat in

947
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: somewhat realistic, but they're fine. Yeah, I've had I mean,

948
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: I just I'll be sitting there watching TV doing a

949
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: mock draft every like time constantly. So the first round

950
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: is moving along here. UM oh, I don't like this.

951
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: Um we're down to our pick already. We've only got

952
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: one offer, Matt. That's low for this software. The Chargers

953
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: are offering us pick forty seven. That's a jump. Yeah,

954
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: pick one twelve and the second round draft pick. That's well,

955
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: that's nice, but that doesn't help us a whole lot

956
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: this year we're moving all the way down to forty seven.

957
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: We're basically we're picking at twenty four. They want us

958
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 1: to move to forty seven. So they want to go down.

959
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: They want us to go down a whole close to round. Yeah,

960
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: I mean a little earlier in the second round. Let

961
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: me see if we can counter that with something. Now

962
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: they do a pick seventy seven. See, I I'd like

963
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: to know who's there. Of course we can look at that.

964
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: But okay, so here's gonna trade down in the first

965
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: or out of the first I'd kind of like to

966
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: have four picks on Day two. Yeah, I want to

967
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: be something I want to have. I want to come

968
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: out of Day two with four or five guys. Five

969
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: might be a little I've gotten five, Yeah, I've gotten five.

970
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 1: I've gotten five of the top hundred, which is nice,

971
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: Which is really nice. I mean, if four's your goal

972
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: and you can leave with a center, a tackle, running back,

973
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 1: and best guy available whatever, whether it be a defensive

974
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: tackle or an edge tight end, that's nice because in fact,

975
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna guy in the first round, i'd like that.

976
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: That's what I want. That's what I want to get. Yeah, um, okay,

977
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: so wh Here's who who's available. Christian Derris, saw Nausea, Harris,

978
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 1: Samuel cos Me. He's not what I've watched is even

979
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: called Lands. He's a good player, but I can't go

980
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: that direction. Kevin Jenkins, Mac Jones still available, So we

981
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: might be able to swing a deal on our own

982
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: here trading down the pick. The guys teams picking after

983
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: us are the Jaguars, the Browns, the Ravens, the Saints,

984
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: the Packers, the Bills, the Bucks, and the Chiefs. So

985
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that Jones would be the one that you

986
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: could dangle, and maybe the Saints would move up for him. Yeah,

987
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,919
Speaker 1: let's let's try proposing a trade if we move down

988
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: just what three or four spots of the saying, let's

989
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: see if New Orleans will bite pick up a little something.

990
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: So New Orleans has sixty, so if we offer them

991
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: twenty four for okay, um, I wouldn't I want sixty?

992
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: If I'm moving down, I want sixty. And where do

993
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: we pick that's after closest to sixty? After six? Do

994
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: you think they do that? I don't know what we're

995
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,479
Speaker 1: gonna try now. I'm gonna also dangle my third round

996
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: pick because we're gonna get Compics next year, So I

997
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: got no problem trading my third round pick next year

998
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna get one or two Compics in the

999
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: third round next year, I hear you. I also wouldn't

1000
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: mind adding a Saints two thousands next we're since we're

1001
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: ever giving them a third, let's ask them for a

1002
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: four because that might only be I'm gonna I'm gonna

1003
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: propose it and see what happens that was declined. See,

1004
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: you've done this a lot more to me. Do we

1005
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: know that they even care? Like, if we offered them

1006
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: a really good deal, are they going to say yes

1007
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: because they posed? I've had them proposed trades to me

1008
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: in the past. Okay, I don't know who who I'm

1009
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: gonna try again. I want sixty. We'll give them eight seven,

1010
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: and let's try a third round for their fifth round.

1011
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: That was the client. That was the client. They not

1012
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: be doing it, may not be doing business. I'm gonna

1013
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: get Treddy Packers here, Okay. I'm sure as a receiver

1014
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: they'd like. Okay, so they have twenty offer two for

1015
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: twenty nine. Twenty nine is not a bad place to be. No,

1016
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 1: it's not a bad place I'm gonna go for sixty

1017
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 1: sixty two eight seven. I'm not interested in their future

1018
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: pick so much, not so much. So I'm gonna ask

1019
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: for pick one sixty as well, which I believe is

1020
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: their fifth rounder. That be their first, second and fifth

1021
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: for our first and third. There's first, second and fifth

1022
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 1: for Okay, yeah, that was declined. That's so fun. Come on, man,

1023
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: what's the deal on the table again with the Chargers

1024
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: pick forties eight? They're offering us some Yeah, it's pick

1025
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: for pick forty seven and pick one twelve and the

1026
00:53:55,320 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: second round draft pick m hm for pick twenty were

1027
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: I just don't know that. That's a long way to go.

1028
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 1: It's a long way to go. Ahead, it's not gonna

1029
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: get us what we want to get. None of the

1030
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: names we mentioned will be there, obviously, and we can

1031
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: try to trade back up, but that's tough. Um. I'm

1032
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: gonna try and one more who else we got here.

1033
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to make a trade at the Bucks.

1034
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: Maybe they would want to pick thirty one. They might.

1035
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: That's where I'm gonna go. So I'm gonna similar type

1036
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: deal with seven for thirty one sixty three. I'm gonna

1037
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: offer them our fifth round pick. All right, No, I

1038
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. I'm gonna I'm gonna see

1039
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: if I can get pick one sixty two off of

1040
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: them as well, which is their fifth round pick. Okay,

1041
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: so be their first, second and fifth for our first

1042
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: and third. That's not bad to move back seven spots declined. Yeah,

1043
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm trying to use a bad Mac

1044
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: card here. I kind of feel like we gotta counter

1045
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: the chargers or see the chargers don't have what they

1046
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: don't have what we want. Yeah, between one more time here,

1047
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: all right, one, I'm gonna just go ninety four, see

1048
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: if they'll just give us our third round pick. I'm

1049
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: kind of just to move down straight up. If they

1050
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: say no to that, we might have to hang up

1051
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: the phone. That was declined. Let me try that with

1052
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: the packers. This is good radio usually not. I don't care.

1053
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: I'm having fun. Yeah, you should start this thing to

1054
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: start all over. We didn't like the results. We didn't

1055
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: like the hand we got six. I mean, it wouldn't

1056
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: break my heart to take dary Saw or Harris. It's

1057
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: not quite as much fun to give us many picks.

1058
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: But we can start consider training down the second round.

1059
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: Let me see, let me, let me see what we

1060
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: can counter here. Again, they do have pick seventy seven,

1061
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: so they're offering forty seven and one twelve in their

1062
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: second round pick for for pick twenty four. What if

1063
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: we take the second round pick off of that and

1064
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: instead got seven and seventy seven, Well, then give us

1065
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: pick forty seven fifty five seventy seven. That's kind of

1066
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: what we were after. So we're trying to we're getting

1067
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 1: We're getting those four picks in the top one hundred,

1068
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: and we're still getting their second from next year. No,

1069
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: I dumped that. It's trying to make him, Okay, we

1070
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: can try for something a little later, fourth or something. Yeah,

1071
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: and I'll throw in our sixth. I mean they want

1072
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: a deal, they're the team wants to come to talk.

1073
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: Trade has been accepted, all right, all right, so we're back.

1074
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: We might regret walking away from they took They actually

1075
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: took Samuel Cosmi there. Wow, I would take an aisaw,

1076
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: but fair enough. Um, Now are gonna go off here

1077
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: and them Jones went thirty one to Tampa Bay, much

1078
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: like we deal with us. But they got their guy.

1079
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: They got their guy anyways, staying where they were at

1080
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: forty two. Tyson Camael Creed Humphrey just went up our

1081
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: pickers up here at leam Meikelberg just went to the Falcons.

1082
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: The Bears are offering us pick fifty two for their

1083
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: third run for the UH and they're three round draft

1084
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: pick for pick forty seven. It doesn't break my heart

1085
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 1: to add the Bears third next year. That could be

1086
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: very early. That could be early. The Buccaneers are now

1087
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: back on the phone with us here. They want to

1088
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: offer us pick sixty three and pick ninety four for

1089
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: pick forty seven. Maybe what what backs are available? Though? Well,

1090
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: it's Williams or Harris there? Okay, here's what's available on offense. UM. Yeah,

1091
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: Javonte Williams and Michael Carter the top two backs right,

1092
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: Terence Marshall, a wide receiver, Landon Dickerson at center. UM.

1093
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: The top tackle available on here is Dylan Ratings. I

1094
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: can't pronounce it. North coast, North Dakota State kid. Whatever.

1095
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: I think that's too early for him. I think I

1096
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: would just wait on that. UM, So do you take

1097
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: We could try instead of offering instead of taking forty seven,

1098
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: we could give him fifty five. What do you mean,

1099
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: what would that deal entail, that would entail I'm gonna

1100
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: reject his airors off for agnaything like that. Uh, they're

1101
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: offering pick sixty three and ninety four right now for

1102
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: pick forty seven and to twenty one. What if my

1103
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: counter with pick fifty five instead of pick forty seven,

1104
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: and then we would have fifty five sixty four we

1105
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: have we have fifty five sixty three, Uh, seventy eight

1106
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: seven ninety four. We have five page. I'd like to

1107
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: get Williams or Dickerson, though if we were lost on

1108
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: both those, I'd be sad. I would be sad as well.

1109
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: Let's let's see if there's a chance we get both.

1110
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: They declined it all right, back with it. Then we'll

1111
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: take uh which you prefer. Well, we can also wait

1112
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: and take Quinn Miners later in the draft. Two. So

1113
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: we so we have there's two fallback options here at

1114
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: the center position because you could still still out there.

1115
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: Actually there's three because you get Miners, Dickerson and Josh

1116
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: Meyers are all still available. Let's say Williamson, so let's

1117
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: take the running back. We'll go running back, and it

1118
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: helps us now, it helps Ben. So we just took

1119
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: Javonte Williams forty seven. Now I think we got to

1120
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: concentrate on Tim and Field. Some offers still landed. Dickerson

1121
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: just went to the Titans. M The Ravens, who I

1122
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: know from doing these in the past, are now on

1123
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: the phone with us. They want a center. We don't

1124
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: want to give them. We don't want to give them one,

1125
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: even though they're offering pick fifty eight, one five or

1126
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: pick fifty five and our seventh round picking too next

1127
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: to reject. You get and so we can take We

1128
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: could take Josh Meyers or we could take Quinn Miners.

1129
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't have a strong feeling one or the other.

1130
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Miners had so much more momentum right now.

1131
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: I didn't watch Myers this week, but if you ask

1132
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: me this a week you go, I said, oh, take Buyers,

1133
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: right yeah, I would have to um your call. It

1134
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. But I think we should grab one of

1135
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: those two. Let's take Miners. I just like the story

1136
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: makes your life a lot easier as a writer. And

1137
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: he's got he's got the ties there, the brothers got

1138
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: the inside story momentum taking it's not that much of

1139
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: a reach. He's rating I think he'll go. Here's here's

1140
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: the thing. When you're picking fifty five, there's a blanket

1141
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: over those like No, there's not a big difference. There's

1142
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: no difference there in rankings with these guys real quick,

1143
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: do you think Steeler wise, and it doesn't matter if

1144
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: it's Humphrey or any of the centers, do you think

1145
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: they need a Wiznowski type or do you think, well,

1146
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: that's a great thing about you could take a minor

1147
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: so you can plug him guard, you can find the center.

1148
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: But do you think it'd be smart to have a

1149
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: veteran swing guard tackle to open the season while a

1150
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: rookie learns if you can afford it, that's what I

1151
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: mean by potentially, Yeah, I think I think you could.

1152
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: All Right, we're back up again at picks seventy seven.

1153
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: The Browns are on the phone, so they've better really

1154
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: overwhelmed with they're offering pick eighty nine and the three

1155
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: round draft pick for pick seventy seven and fourth round

1156
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: draft pick. That ain't getting it done for me. We're

1157
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: rejecting that. So we're pick seventy seven. All the offensive

1158
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: tackles are still on the board. Yeah, Um, so i'd

1159
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: consider a trade down. Browns up Cincinnati has gone. M

1160
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: I like that good. Somebody took him in the took

1161
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,439
Speaker 1: him real early. He's building a lot of momentum, building

1162
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: some momentum. Alright, So North Dakota State Rattins is there,

1163
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: Spencer Brown is there from Northern Iowa, Walker Little from Stanford,

1164
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: Jackson Carmen, Adrian Eally. Oh no, Hudson is there. He's

1165
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: just he's still available. I think I just do it. Um,

1166
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: let me take one look at this. When's our next pick? Again?

1167
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: We have another pick coming up here at seven. Wow,

1168
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: so we could get our three positions in need and yeah,

1169
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: we wanted to play with without trading down. Let me

1170
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: see what's available. Okay, it's uh, Pete Werner is available.

1171
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: Liner to but yeah, Tommy togy I out of Ohio State,

1172
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle that would help us. See, I'm a

1173
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: lot more comfortable making one of those picks after I

1174
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: had my tackle, I would be. And you have to

1175
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: blow me away with the move out of the spot

1176
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 1: now to not take the developmental tackle. Let's see here

1177
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: after getting two of my three he needs. Tight end

1178
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: is getting pretty worked over. I would bet. Yeah, Um,

1179
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: this might not be the Steelers tight end draft. By

1180
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: the way, No, it might not be uh Kyle Trask

1181
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: available at the quarterback position. That doesn't expect the mons

1182
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: rising up a little bit. I thought he played. He

1183
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: played well, I guess. I guess he was a lot

1184
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: better in the game than the practices from whatever. At

1185
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: the wide receiver position, Tylan Wallace, Dwayne x Eskridge, Elijah Moore.

1186
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: I like all those guys, Yeah, Diami Brown. Our next

1187
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: bit could be received at well. I mean there's guys there.

1188
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: I still didn't take the tackle. Which one do you

1189
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: like the best? Who was the one you mentioned the

1190
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: since you kids, James Hudson is still there that Okay,

1191
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: take James Hudson. There's our developmental tack. I don't need

1192
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: a lot. Okay, So now now we're playing with house money.

1193
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 1: In my opinion, now I'm more in the market of

1194
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: who's the best guy on the board, regardless of position. Okay,

1195
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,919
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs are on the phone. The Chiefs went off.

1196
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,919
Speaker 1: They want pick eighty seven in our seventh round draft

1197
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: pick for their nine five pick, which is eight picks

1198
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: after this film, and pick one thirty one. I think

1199
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: we take that. Let me see what I don't care

1200
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: about our seventh at all. See if they'll throw in

1201
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: the next year. Let me see what Let me see

1202
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: what's available here before we deal. So Tylan Wallace is available,

1203
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: Dwayne Eskridge still available, had pass, Elijah Moore still available

1204
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: to to at well. But we're not moving down real

1205
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: far right. We're moving down like eight spots. One of

1206
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: those guys will still be there. Pete Werner still there. Interesting, Um,

1207
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: Tyler Shelvin there the big defensive tacklement of l s

1208
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: u Um the edge guys. Patrick Jones is slipping a

1209
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: little bit here. I guess you didn't have a great week,

1210
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: but he did okay in the in the game, Yeah

1211
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: I played okay. Um, you have Dio eight on the boga. Oh,

1212
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: Quincy Rochet still available. Yeah, there's some guys there that

1213
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: step so many of those names. I don't mind moving

1214
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: back eight spots. We are getting the extra picked and

1215
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: picked up, and you might end up with two of them.

1216
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: Colendar just steal their six round pick next year, which

1217
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 1: will be late. Let's see if we want a little

1218
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: something that was declined. Okay, let me see here what

1219
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: else we can counter with. Um. I don't mind giving

1220
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,479
Speaker 1: up if we're gonna have Yeah, we're gonna just gonna

1221
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,919
Speaker 1: see proposing and confirm it. All right, we're they took

1222
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:30,479
Speaker 1: Pete Werner as they should. Yeah, it's a good chief

1223
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: move for them. Yeah. You put him next to William

1224
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 1: Gay for a couple of years. Maybe they actually have

1225
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: a lineback there. Uh, Dimitric Felton just went to the Bucks.

1226
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: That would have been a nice bonus pick. You talk

1227
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: about Patrick about Patrick Jones went to the Packers. We're

1228
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: up at ninety five here, Monty Rice another interesting inside

1229
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: backer available? Yeah, is that the Auburn kid? Monty Rice

1230
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: is a Georgia kids. Okay, the Auburn kid was exciting too,

1231
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: but he's probably already gone. Yeah. Carry Vincent available with

1232
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: the cornerback position. Interesting guy, never bad out a corner. Yeah.

1233
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: Tyma Sheldon available at the tight end position. Kenny Yeboa

1234
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: train McKitty. Um. I assume there's receivers available. You'd have

1235
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 1: a tough time from Tylan Wallace available. Scridge, Wayne Eskridge available.

1236
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:21,439
Speaker 1: I take Scridge. There's the pick that's nice. It's got

1237
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: four guys on offense, two playmakers, two blockers. I like it,

1238
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: and we're picking again here, backing down the list. So

1239
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 1: we're we're adding a lot of people. We're adding people

1240
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: for the top one hundred. We even had a pick

1241
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: for next year, the Highway. We got. No, we gave

1242
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,439
Speaker 1: up a seventh about that, right, I don't care about

1243
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: We got a lot of pics next year picks. Okay,

1244
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: we're coming up on two here. We are all back

1245
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: on the clock here. Um tight end position still Tray

1246
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: McKitty um is still available. Nick you banks. At the

1247
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: we were pretty set on offense. Now we got it

1248
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: would be the front set or anything on defense even Okay,

1249
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: the top of defensive guys. Paulson a debut or debo

1250
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: a cornerback at of Stanford. Marvin Willison. He was a

1251
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: high pedigree guy before this year, had kind of a

1252
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: rough season. He may have opted out. Actually, yeah, Smart

1253
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: Long interesting it would be a project a little bit.

1254
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: But um yeah, these names, right, there's a lot of

1255
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: owls in some of these. Ogan Doug out of Notre Dame,

1256
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: the big defensive tackle there. Tony he's interesting. Yeah, Tony

1257
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: Fields out of West Virginia linebacker. Um that Notre Dame

1258
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: d lineman. I mean, is he the six five is long,

1259
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: arms six two fifty six, so he'd be an edge

1260
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: They have too linemen. I get confusedly, both have crazy names. Yeah, um,

1261
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 1: that's not terrible, though I don't hate. We need to

1262
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: add an edge rusher, there's no doubt about at some

1263
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: point in this draft if you think he's the best. Now,

1264
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 1: you also could look at the linebacker position where you

1265
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: get again Tony Fields, Charles Snowden, um Merlin Robinson, Robertson

1266
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: from air on a state amen, Ogum, yeah, um, let's

1267
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 1: keep the edge guy. They dry up quick. If we

1268
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: can get a mid round edge dude from Notre Dame

1269
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 1: that can do some stuff, yeah, right, right right, it

1270
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 1: might immediately be your third. He has a highsmith like season.

1271
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 1: He's listening for some reason. He's listened on. Here's a

1272
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: defensive tackle and he's not a defense he's not. Yeah,

1273
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 1: he's we're taking him. He's okay, okay, So we gotta

1274
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: we get an edge guy. We gotta pick coming up

1275
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: again at one thirty one. We're gonna have six at

1276
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: the top. That's fine, that's nice, that's fine. Okay, we're

1277
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: back on the clock here now. So we still need

1278
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle. If we can get one. Sure, cornerback

1279
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: would be nice. Anything on defensive linebacker would be really good. Um,

1280
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: so Tony Fields still available, do you like him enough

1281
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 1: to take him there? He's athletic, Yeah, so you can run. Yeah,

1282
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's kind of what you're looking for

1283
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: there against Charles Snowden is still there. He was a hype.

1284
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: Think about taking a linebacker here too. And let's be

1285
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: true with like a safety is you they often take

1286
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: special teamers in six and seven, but these would be

1287
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 1: special teamer plus is that could be you know, eventual starters.

1288
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: You know, they're kind of the best of both worlds.

1289
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: Snowing to me, is more of an edge. We just

1290
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 1: did that. Yeah, because he's i mean, he's six six,

1291
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna play him inside and yeah, he's an odd backer. Yeah. Um,

1292
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: whereas Fields is one of these guys that you're he's

1293
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: more safety type sized nickel linebacker to run. I'm fine

1294
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 1: with that. Let's go ahead and go that route. Just

1295
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 1: you might push Marcus Allen out of the way and

1296
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: that that's great news, right right right? Um, Okay, so

1297
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: we get a little while here to wait. Now, we've

1298
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 1: got a lot to We've had six picks already, six picks.

1299
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 1: That's not too shabby, No, it's not. Um. Yeah, so

1300
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: we're taking down through or here. The Jalen Twiman the

1301
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: moment door Lenore at the cornerback out of Oregon would

1302
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 1: be a nice mid round. Yeah slot, he just went

1303
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: shock a. Tony just went to the Ravens. Yeah. We

1304
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have been in that market at this point,

1305
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:04,480
Speaker 1: but it's a good value. We're in around six now. Um,

1306
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 1: I probably I probably should put this on the high

1307
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 1: speed we didn't. We'll pick one. Would you consider another

1308
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 1: weapon on offense, a scat back type perhaps? I mean,

1309
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: but the ones we like are gone. You need to Yeah,

1310
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 1: you really need to rework that Bunning back room. One

1311
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 1: draft could really do that. Yeah. Um, I wouldn't mind

1312
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: getting a developmental tight end somebody, some competition there. Just

1313
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: all right, we're back up at one and the top

1314
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 1: offensive guys Anthony Schwartz wide receiver, Nick you Bank still

1315
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: available tight end out in Michigan. Uh, Frank Darby wide receiver,

1316
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: at ariors On a State, Dan Moore offensive tackle lot

1317
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 1: of Texas A and m Landon Young another text offensive tackle.

1318
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,520
Speaker 1: Both those guys, I'm kind of shocked. Are still there. Defensively,

1319
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: we could use a cornerback if we can find one here.

1320
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 1: That was actually gonna be my suggestion. Whoa, my I

1321
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: is still available with the end of the last tree. Brown, Oh,

1322
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: I think you take him. Yeah, I think you take him.

1323
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: Playmaker slot corner all day long, played a little outside

1324
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: senior boy. I guess did well tough. Yeah, yeah, I

1325
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: think he. I think he led that. I was reading

1326
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: something about him yesterday and I've been taking him like crazy,

1327
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure, but he got up in value. Yeah, I

1328
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: guess he got his hands on the ball more than

1329
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 1: anybody else at the Senior Bowl. Yeah, just to plan

1330
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me he's a little bit bigger

1331
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: than Mike Hilton, but he's every big place for you.

1332
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 1: I think that's there was a guy from Penn State

1333
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: last year, I think it's his name Brown too, that

1334
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 1: was right in this neighborhood I here he ended up.

1335
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: He kind of reminds me of that. Smart gets his

1336
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: hands on the ball a lot. Not physically overwhelming. Okay,

1337
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: we're back up here at two twelve and uh J

1338
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: V and Haskins available there if you're looking for that

1339
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm I don't know who he is.

1340
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: He's running back out of Louisville five six. He's more

1341
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: of a sket that. I mean, that's the kind of

1342
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 1: back i'd be interested in. Its aid, I think he

1343
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 1: kind of got that with Anthon Anthony. I don't think

1344
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: it's a much of a need if something tight End.

1345
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: I kind of like a little bit carry Angeline tight

1346
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 1: End at North Carolina State. They should know plenty about him. Yeah, right,

1347
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 1: right right. If he's again, if you can get gentry

1348
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 1: out of the mix and it's really in need, I

1349
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 1: kind of like him there. I think I think we

1350
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 1: take t carry. I'm fine with that. Let's go ahead

1351
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 1: and do that. That gives us a guy who can

1352
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: at very least be number three this year, and it

1353
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 1: might be him Raider and Ibron, And we've got another

1354
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 1: pick coming up at two twenty one here where they've

1355
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: done this a lot, but with minimal success. I'd say,

1356
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 1: but that late round d tackle type isn't such a

1357
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: bad movie there. But let me see what's available. I

1358
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: almost think maybe next year your second round picks Chris

1359
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: Tonga available. He's the big like six, five, three and

1360
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: sixty pound those tackle out of b y U. What

1361
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 1: do you think about that? I know we took him

1362
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: or somebody similar last week at one point might have

1363
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 1: taken him. It might have been him. You kind of

1364
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 1: yell at them whenever they're you know the mc colors,

1365
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: like he only plays five snaps and he doesn't help

1366
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: on special teams. But if he's good at those five

1367
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,839
Speaker 1: snaps are better than the Colors. Wasn't those five snaps

1368
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: or ten snaps when Tennessee comes to town or whatever?

1369
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: There is value there. There's also to Darryl Slayton out

1370
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 1: of Florida. He's another one of those guys six five.

1371
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: I mean, these are just massive human beings. If they

1372
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: I don't know them well enough, but if they fit

1373
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 1: the profile where ten years ago they would have been

1374
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: a third or fourth round pick, and now there are

1375
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 1: six or seven. I say you take him if they

1376
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 1: can't move at all and they you know, he's a

1377
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 1: lot different than Davis and Bugs. Yeah, I know, there's

1378
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: no doubt about that time. He's not massive massive, he's

1379
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 1: six two, so I'm fine with that, and he's there's

1380
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 1: times you want that guy. Yeah, I think there might

1381
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 1: be a lot of weeks. I just like to pick there.

1382
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the b y U lineman. The Steelers

1383
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: are some pretty good luck with that. Yeah, taking those

1384
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: guys developed, you know, that's the better around the block.

1385
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 1: That's the pick. I'm fine with that. So we did. Okay, here,

1386
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 1: let's see, we came out of this with Javonte Williams

1387
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 1: and pick forty seven Quinn Miners at five. We got

1388
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 1: our running back, a center, James Hudson, starters a rookies

1389
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 1: at some point, James Hudson, a nice developmental offen pick,

1390
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 1: Dwayne Skridgett, snide receiver that they would know a lot about.

1391
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: Ogan Daisy uh the linebacker out of Notre Dame, Tony

1392
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 1: Fields linebacker out of West Virginia, inside or outside inside,

1393
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 1: Trey Brown at one, cornerback out of Oklahoma, defensive depth

1394
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: carry angeline the tight end, and then we got the

1395
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 1: Charis Brown out of I got no problem with it.

1396
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: It's nice bringing that many guys, four or six, eight,

1397
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 1: we've got nine guys. Yeah, and rarely today the roster

1398
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 1: space for it, but I think they will now. Yeah,

1399
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 1: I think I think most of these guys have a

1400
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 1: good shot of making team, making a team right, or

1401
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: at least the practice squad right, and you know, be

1402
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 1: in the mix now. I like it. I like that

1403
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: the where we prioritize the positions and what we ended

1404
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: up with. And you know, part of me sitting here

1405
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: going Naja Harris would have been nice. Derrisaw, it would

1406
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 1: have been nice. But then we're short. Then there's a position,

1407
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: doesn't we got We got four of the top picks. Yeah,

1408
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: we get five of the top one and six of

1409
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 1: the top one thirty one and that this we get

1410
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: a little hooked on this site. But I think that's

1411
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 1: a good approach for the team this year. If you

1412
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: could add four or five lots of good young talent

1413
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:42,759
Speaker 1: and you're not going to hit on all these guys,

1414
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 1: but if you take nine of them and you hit

1415
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: on five or six of them, he had a good draft.

1416
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: And they're cheap for them four years to absolute really

1417
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 1: cost control. I mean, the first rounders cost a little more.

1418
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: You know, it gives them a lot of versatility. Yeah,

1419
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: I agree, We're gonna take another break. He is Matt Williamson.

1420
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to the draft here on

1421
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Will be back right after this your

1422
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 1: Tunes about Drive on Home of the Black and Goal

1423
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We are fact I'm Dale while we

1424
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: here Matt Linson and that I looked here on the

1425
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus and there have the free agency ranking

1426
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 1: the top guys available. Uh. The thing that I found

1427
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: interesting about this, I care less about where, who's ranked

1428
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: where or whatever, is what they think they have the

1429
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: projected contracts that these guys are gonna get. So I've

1430
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 1: I've sorted this out here by the Steeler free agents,

1431
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 1: the top guys, good idea what they're projecting. So I

1432
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 1: thought we'd run through some of those who exactly and

1433
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: all those things, which makes it a little tough, but

1434
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 1: it does. Um. They have Juju as a top at

1435
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 1: the Steelers top free agent. I guess I could see that.

1436
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 1: Like if I had unlimited money and I could only

1437
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 1: pay Juju or Bide in a nuts show, I'd pay Bud.

1438
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 1: But Jujus put a lot of production on out there

1439
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 1: for at again his age. Yeah he's still twenty four. Um,

1440
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:22,839
Speaker 1: So they're projected contract for Juju is four years, sixty

1441
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 1: eight million dollars with thirty five million dollars guaranteed. That's

1442
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 1: an average of seventeen million a year. That's why he

1443
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 1: will not be a Steeler next time. Would say, that

1444
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: doesn't sound unreasonable to me. I mean, I bet he

1445
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 1: gets it. Seventeen million dollar. I mean that's kind of

1446
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: the going rate for the Patriots pay that for Juju.

1447
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I think all the receivers they've gone

1448
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 1: through and the money they have to spend, and I

1449
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 1: could probably come with five other teams, the Bears or

1450
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: Washington or you know what I mean, Like, he's he's

1451
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: worth it, but he's not worth it the Steelers. No,

1452
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: it's just that that's too much monuch, too much money

1453
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 1: with what you got their next Steeler free agent. This

1454
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: is kind of weird because he's not getting nearly as

1455
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,719
Speaker 1: high con tracked. His number twenty six is Mike Kilton.

1456
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: His contract with what they're estimating here is three years,

1457
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 1: twelve million dollars, four million guaranteed. That's a four million

1458
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 1: dollar average. If that's all my Kilton costs, that's not

1459
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: so bad, right, right, Yeah, you could afford that. You

1460
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: can afford that. I mean, you'll probably at the cost

1461
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: of Sutton. But you know, if you're fighting between the

1462
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: two and someone's offering Sutton eight and you can get

1463
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 1: Hilton for four. It's easy to say, welcome back, my right,

1464
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 1: right right. You've got a lot of luck with him,

1465
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: a lot of success with him. This was gonna this

1466
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 1: is gonna one that's gonna drive people nuts. They're the

1467
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 1: next guy up on their list. He's thirty third overall.

1468
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 1: Alejandro Villaneueva. Yeah, three years, forty five million dollars, thirty

1469
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed. That's a fifteen million dollar a year average.

1470
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 1: He's a thirty two year old offensive tackle. First of all,

1471
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 1: I think Steeler fans should hope that somebody offers that.

1472
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 1: Al should hope that they offer absolutely, and you're gonna

1473
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: guarantee you thirty million dollars, I'll play some work and

1474
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: to play some more, and I'm I don't know it'll

1475
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: be that big. But he's a starting he's a starting

1476
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,680
Speaker 1: left tackle and a sentence period, I mean, and if

1477
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 1: you're gonna draft that kid from Cincinnati and you don't

1478
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 1: have anything there right now, and you plug Allen and

1479
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: maybe you can cut him after two years, and he's

1480
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 1: a awesome influence in the locker room and I'm the

1481
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 1: young man and all that. Yeah, he might get beaten

1482
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 1: the next couple of years, but it's better than playing

1483
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 1: nobody there. His past blocking is fine, Yeah, it's it's

1484
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 1: the run blocking that was a little lacking this year.

1485
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 1: But in terms of his I mean really the only

1486
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 1: game he struggled was against carl lost lost in big

1487
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 1: leverage advantage. Right, maybe they'd be good for the Steelers,

1488
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 1: will be good for all and so you can hold

1489
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:45,719
Speaker 1: on the fort. This is where I really pro football focus.

1490
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is Bud. They got Bud ratted is

1491
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,799
Speaker 1: the fifty fifth best free agent going into this year's draft.

1492
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 1: Uh point, so it turns twenty I get it, one year,

1493
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 1: ten million dollars seven point five million guaranteed. Their grades

1494
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 1: on him is that because the injury, and maybe the

1495
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: injury would get to there. There There are guys that they're

1496
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 1: giving way more money than that, like who signed were

1497
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: signing one year deals that are in his class. Yeah. Um,

1498
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 1: the things that they write about him are just unbelievable.

1499
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:20,759
Speaker 1: I don't understand the pre broke out with a seventy

1500
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 1: seven point seven overall grade in two thousand nineteen, good

1501
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 1: for twenty three among edge rushers. That Mark trampled his

1502
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 1: previous performance, which ranged from forty four point nine or

1503
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 1: forty four point four his rookie year to sixty two

1504
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: point six and two thousand and sixteen, he came back

1505
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 1: down to earth here in in with a sixty point

1506
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 1: two overall grade prior to a season ending injury. If

1507
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 1: there's anybody that thinks he was that far less playing,

1508
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 1: that work that much worse this year than he did

1509
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 1: last year, you need to you need to stop watching

1510
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: football because you don't know what the hell you're talking. Yeah,

1511
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 1: it makes no sense to me. I thought he he

1512
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 1: was playing better than he did a year ago, for sure.

1513
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:02,679
Speaker 1: I mean made more plays. H um didn't rush upfield

1514
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: nearly as much. He's developing more and the pass rush

1515
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 1: moves beats one on one coverage or you know, blocks

1516
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 1: a lot more higher end tackles he's beating now. To uh,

1517
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: teams go out of their way, even with Watt on

1518
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 1: the other side, the chip him at times and help

1519
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: with them. I don't get that. Here's what the key

1520
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 1: to dupri is and to not get caught up in

1521
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 1: the sack totals, particularly this season, as most of his

1522
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,480
Speaker 1: sacks have come on down have come down to quarterbacks

1523
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 1: holding the ball for way too long. What are you

1524
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 1: talking about? Dupre does play hard and his high motor

1525
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: allows him to get several hustle plays and clean up sacks. Yeah,

1526
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 1: but that doesn't count. Those count. They shouldn't be the

1527
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 1: negative column. But high end pass rusher should be winning

1528
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: one on one against offensive tackles far more than Dupres

1529
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 1: shown over his career. I don't care what over his career.

1530
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 1: I don't care what he did over his career. What's

1531
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 1: he doing, what's he doing for you now? What's he

1532
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 1: doing for you now? And even at the end of

1533
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 1: last year, I mean like he's turned the corner. I

1534
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 1: don't understand that. One thing I like about pro football

1535
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 1: focus with their pass rush is they value pressures more

1536
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 1: than sacks. And I think that's valid. But I think

1537
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: he gets a lot of pressures to solutely pushing the

1538
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 1: pocket and he's after play. Put it this way, I

1539
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,679
Speaker 1: don't care about his career. They had his two thousand

1540
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: eighteen grade of sixty point four is higher than his

1541
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 1: twenty grade of sixty two. It's insane. It's insane. Um

1542
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 1: so one year, ten million dollars if that's if if

1543
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 1: Bud dupre is only one million, ten million, one year,

1544
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 1: ten million dollars. He'll be a Steeler next. I'll give

1545
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 1: you eleven. It's insane. He's gonna get me. He's gonna

1546
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: get a lot more. The only way that happens is

1547
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 1: if his people aren't sure about the injury at any

1548
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 1: one overall. Up next is James Conner. Okay, this one's

1549
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 1: not happening either. They have Conner signing a three year

1550
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 1: I don't know who was signed with three year, three

1551
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 1: year deal essentially nineteen million dollars. That's six point six

1552
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 1: seven million average and ten million guarantee. No one's giving

1553
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 1: him ten million. It's not happening, not happening. He may

1554
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 1: not be in league in three years. Here's another one, Okay,

1555
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: Cam Sutton. If this is the case, then if it

1556
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 1: if it comes down to Sutton or Hilton, then Sutton

1557
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 1: will be on the on the Steelers one year, two

1558
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 1: point seven five million, one point five year, and te

1559
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 1: Steelers would sign him to that, right now, give you

1560
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 1: more to that, right now? Yeah. I don't know how

1561
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 1: they value Sutton, but I value him way more than that.

1562
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 1: I think the league will too. I think so as well. Yeah,

1563
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 1: I think he's a five six million dollar year A

1564
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 1: guy Matt Feiler is up next. He's number ninety two

1565
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 1: on the list. I'm actually shocked he's not higher. I

1566
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 1: am as a week and started to position two years

1567
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 1: twelve million dollars, eight million dollars guaranteed, So six million

1568
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: dollars a year, eight million unreasonable. B J. Finny got

1569
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 1: more than actually got about this. He got about the

1570
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 1: same amount of money. Okay, and he can't play tackle.

1571
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 1: He can't play tackle. This guy can play tackle for you. Yeah,

1572
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 1: maybe he gets eight he's gonna get more money. Yeah,

1573
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 1: I think you're right. And he got that much, well, yeah,

1574
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 1: he got like six issues. He got like it was

1575
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 1: like between four and a half and five. And I

1576
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 1: think you get I think you got nine million for

1577
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:11,759
Speaker 1: two years or something. And even if you only project

1578
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 1: Piler to guard, if you don't think you can play tackle,

1579
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 1: he's still the starter. He started over finning right right. Yeah. Yeah,

1580
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 1: So that's the that's that's the Steelers free agent guys.

1581
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 1: Some of it, I mean a lot of it doesn't

1582
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 1: sound bad. I know they're right on a lot of those. Yeah,

1583
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 1: I hope I will get that money. Um. I hope

1584
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: something is that affordable. I hope Connor gets that money right,

1585
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 1: if those signed good, I just don't. I think some

1586
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 1: of that's kind of unrealistic. And the bud things nuts.

1587
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 1: The bud thing is nut. So because if you is

1588
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 1: going to make that though, if you look at um,

1589
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 1: it just the edge. Guys. Here, we'll go through this

1590
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 1: real quick here before we gotta take I'm just curious

1591
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,679
Speaker 1: how they value what's out there. Shack Barrett four years,

1592
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars a year or a year. Yeah, I

1593
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,759
Speaker 1: mean by the side, I don't think that's a crazy contract.

1594
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 1: Carl Lawson four years, thirteen point seven and five million,

1595
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 1: he's really good. Jadeveon Clowney one year, thirteen million. I

1596
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: don't think that he was going down that road. No,

1597
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 1: completely guaranteed too. I might at I don't think that

1598
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 1: that's not happening now. Yanna can Gockway four years, seventeen

1599
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 1: and a half million dollars a year. It seems a

1600
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 1: little high, but okay. Melvin Ingram two years, twenty million

1601
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 1: dollars sixteen million guaranteed. He's a little He hasn't he

1602
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 1: hasn't been a player in a couple of years then,

1603
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: but at one year, ten million dollars seven and a

1604
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 1: half guaranteed. Leonard Floyd, Leonard Floyd's more flashed full gold

1605
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: three years forty million dollars. Wow, I wouldn't give him that.

1606
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson four years, forty five million dollars, he had

1607
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 1: one year production, one year production. Now, but he's got

1608
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:55,639
Speaker 1: on Matthew Jude four years sixty four million dollars. That's

1609
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 1: sixteen million year. I don't think, not even close, not

1610
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 1: even close. Like I think he's like a Preston Smith, Yeah,

1611
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 1: who they paid too much in or might be cutting.

1612
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,759
Speaker 1: There's some some wor that or even worse Alden Smith,

1613
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 1: who's going to be thirty two next year. It's a

1614
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 1: little bit of baggage, Yeah, a little bit of baggage.

1615
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 1: Two years, fifteen million. He wasn't like Hassan Reddick. He

1616
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 1: had flashes one year eight point five million, fully guaranteed.

1617
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:23,560
Speaker 1: I think that might actually happen, That might happen, that

1618
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: might actually. Here's the one that just tack McKinley three years,

1619
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 1: twenty eight and a half million. It's not happening. He

1620
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 1: got caught. Yeah, no way, they had him. They had

1621
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 1: he had a higher grade this year than Bud. That's insane.

1622
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 1: Their grading system is ridiculous, ridiculous. Whoever whoever grades the

1623
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 1: Steelers needs to stop the palsy Bud things a bizarre.

1624
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 1: Here's kind of my problem with it is have your opinion,

1625
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 1: but it seems like they willing to change it. Right,

1626
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't have been wrong last year, right or Hey,

1627
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 1: Bud started his career slow. We don't think he's good,

1628
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 1: but these guys can get better. Yeah, you know, they're

1629
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: allowed to get better. The last one on here in

1630
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 1: the top one Hunters Romeo Acora three years, nineteen and

1631
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 1: a half. That's a I would give that to him

1632
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 1: before before I paid jude On money. Are you kidding me?

1633
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 1: He might be a guy not from the Steelers, of target,

1634
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 1: but someone might be real. It goes back to the

1635
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 1: argument from last year when they had jude On ranked

1636
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 1: ahead of Dupre, but their stats showed that jude On

1637
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: had more unblocked pressures and more unblocked sacks than Dupre did,

1638
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 1: and that was their knock against Dupre. Doesn't make sense,

1639
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't paragraph. After the rankings they're like, I'll take

1640
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:37,640
Speaker 1: this guy, but why is he rank, lowering the guy

1641
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 1: ahead of him, though we just said the same thing

1642
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 1: about right, and this guy had more production, more production,

1643
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 1: and you have more production again and maybe it's more

1644
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 1: physically gifted. Yeah, well that's how I hope the whole

1645
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 1: league looks about that way. They won't, they won't. I

1646
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: mean a lot of teams are you know they subscribed

1647
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 1: to PFF of that. I mean, they're gonna judge it

1648
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 1: to totally often, you know, I agree, But yeah, we're

1649
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 1: gonna take another He is Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lally.

1650
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

1651
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 1: We'll be back to finish up the show right after

1652
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 1: this your tunes about Drive on Home of the Black

1653
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 1: and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lally

1654
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 1: here with Matt Williamson, and Matt I sent you this

1655
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 1: article earlier, so actually from the Associated Press, but I'm

1656
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 1: sure lots of people had it that John Mara, who's

1657
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:54,759
Speaker 1: the co owner of the New York Giants um actually

1658
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 1: came out and talked about the UH cap and whatnot. Yeah,

1659
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 1: time we've heard from an owner right on this talked

1660
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 1: about it a little bit, you know, But not not

1661
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 1: to the level of this. Um, I'm sure they're all

1662
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 1: talking amongst themselves before they reveal it us. Yeah. He

1663
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 1: said that U estimates for this year were that the

1664
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 1: revenues could be down by at least a hundred million

1665
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 1: per team in the NFL this year, for all thirty

1666
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 1: two teams. So I mean that's a hundred that's three

1667
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: point two billion dollars. It's a lot of money, it is. Yeah, Um,

1668
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 1: and they did. They did lose, according and this according

1669
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 1: to uh Mark Joannis Organis, the co founder of a

1670
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 1: Chicago based consulting group, Sports Corps and a confident of

1671
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,799
Speaker 1: many NFL owners. But he said he also said they

1672
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 1: got all the games in. They got him in all

1673
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 1: time within the seventeen week window, which is huge, which

1674
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 1: means that they essentially didn't necessarily have to give back

1675
01:28:56,400 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 1: any money to the networks. Like even that Steeler game

1676
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 1: that got moved, the Ravens game, and it was a

1677
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 1: weird time and stuff, but a lot of you watched it.

1678
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 1: It got in and they got it in. UM, so,

1679
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 1: so correct me if I'm wrong. I mean, this was

1680
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 1: my slight interpretation of it. Is okay, the cap would

1681
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 1: have been if it was a normal year, the cap

1682
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 1: would have been plugs in usually goes up about ten million.

1683
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 1: But the only thing that's subtracted from that equation. When

1684
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:29,599
Speaker 1: it's all said and done, we're butts in the stands

1685
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 1: for a large yeah, I mean in terms of revenue.

1686
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: And they made some of that up by by putting

1687
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 1: up the a little more ads here and there, and

1688
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 1: they got somebody the ads themselves. I think we're just

1689
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 1: supplemental to to because those people had already prepaid for

1690
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 1: those ads. You gotta we gotta get them in the

1691
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 1: spots where people can see them. Yeah. But there were

1692
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 1: some teams that were the thought outside the box a

1693
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 1: little bit and they, you know, added some different revenue

1694
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:55,600
Speaker 1: streams in different ways. Um. And I know, butts and

1695
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 1: the stands is a lot of beers and pretzels and

1696
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 1: all that parking and all that stuff. Yeah, it's vide

1697
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 1: lest jerseys, but it's still not a drop in the bucket.

1698
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 1: But it's still nothing compared to TV and whatnot. I

1699
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 1: think that the thing that actually when you look at this,

1700
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 1: uh Ginnis said that, Um, he talked about the TV deals.

1701
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,799
Speaker 1: The TV ratings were down seven percent this year across

1702
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 1: the regular season, but the surprises me a little. But

1703
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 1: the end well, because people weren't watching as many sports

1704
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 1: this year because they had you know, they got used

1705
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 1: to not having them. I just started to be home.

1706
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 1: They're watching them. The NFL actually widened the gap with

1707
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:39,760
Speaker 1: the other pro sports leaks. They just went ahead everybody else. Still, yeah,

1708
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 1: they they they went further ahead. Okay, may have been

1709
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 1: down seven percent for the NFL, but it was down

1710
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 1: for the other you know what. Um, So the next

1711
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:52,639
Speaker 1: rounds of TV deals are likely to start at ten

1712
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 1: billion annually and go up from there. Um, you know

1713
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 1: what they were before that. If you don't, no, I don't.

1714
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 1: It's dramatic, but it's Yeah. But if you look at this, um,

1715
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 1: the league's not hurt and I don't care what they want,

1716
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:12,640
Speaker 1: says Demorris Smith, who, of course the union nfl p

1717
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 1: A executive director. UM said he's happy that they have

1718
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: a cap floor for next year because that kind of

1719
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 1: gives everybody jumping off point and said, you know they

1720
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 1: we these teams can carry money over and all that stuff,

1721
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 1: but nobody both sides don't want this. It's bad for everybody.

1722
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:33,800
Speaker 1: It's bad for everybody want it's bad for everybody. One

1723
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 1: is really bad for everybody. Yeah. Um. The one thing

1724
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 1: that they do know here in this ap article is

1725
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys led the NFL in attendance during the

1726
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 1: pandemic at thirty thousand per game per game. Wow, that's

1727
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 1: what they drew for the Steelers on it they were open,

1728
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, that was pretty pretty much not half of

1729
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 1: their building, but still it's a chunk. Here's the thing, though,

1730
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 1: They're they're building holds like eighty five thousand, and their

1731
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 1: revenue from from in two thousand eighteen from the stadium

1732
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 1: was six one million dollars, so take that, so maybe

1733
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 1: it's two fifty they made. Well yeah, so it's still

1734
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 1: not a drop in the bucket, but it's not the

1735
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 1: six hundred twenty one million here. Um. But I just

1736
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 1: have a feeling here that that they're going to get

1737
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 1: something done with this. I bet if I set the

1738
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 1: over under two, would you go over I would go

1739
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,719
Speaker 1: over there too. Yeah. I think I think the owners

1740
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 1: really want that once they started. I mean, this is

1741
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 1: a time when they're really like I'm sure that gms

1742
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 1: and capologists have had conversations with owners that hey, this

1743
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 1: is gonna be a tough offseason, but now they're actually

1744
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 1: digging in and they're going to the owner, well, we

1745
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 1: gotta cut him, him and him, And then the owners

1746
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 1: go to talk to their other thirty one buddies and

1747
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:48,680
Speaker 1: they say this stinks, right, this is bad for everybody's

1748
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 1: bad on the same boat. Here's the thing that Mara said.

1749
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 1: He said that the losses that they had this year

1750
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:56,559
Speaker 1: are manageable. He said, you know, yes, everybody lost some money.

1751
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 1: He says, there's a huge financial hit for us this year,

1752
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,839
Speaker 1: no question about it. But it's not going to affect

1753
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:04,160
Speaker 1: our ability to be active in free agency or do

1754
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 1: what we have to to improve our team. Hopefully, this

1755
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 1: is a one year thing and we'll be able to

1756
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 1: have fans back in the building next season in a

1757
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 1: new contract deal. And you think it's some ideas that

1758
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 1: they're that they're going to be fans in the stadium

1759
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 1: again next year. There's gonna be there. Then they're going

1760
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 1: to everyone's get vaccinated, you know, right, Maybe it's not

1761
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 1: a hund percent capacity, but it's gonna be better than

1762
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 1: what it's gonna be. More than thirty with Dallas ad

1763
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 1: and they were the best, and they were the best yeah,

1764
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. We've been saying this all along, and

1765
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:34,680
Speaker 1: this before we knew a lot about the COVID situation

1766
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 1: and the progress the world's made. They have so much money,

1767
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 1: it's und I know. That sounds like it was a

1768
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 1: huge financial hit and they lost X amount of million dollars,

1769
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 1: which is crazy, but they make X amount of billion dollars, right,

1770
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 1: you know. I mean that's I don't know, it's kind

1771
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 1: of like Ben Roethlis playing Burger play in a fine

1772
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 1: but yeah, it hurts me and you but it doesn't. Yeah.

1773
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 1: So I think the doomsday prophecies of oh it's hundred

1774
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:08,599
Speaker 1: seventy five million or it's a hundred eighty million, that's

1775
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 1: gonna change here over the next few weeks, uh are

1776
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 1: when we talked to when we talked to Art Rooney

1777
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 1: last year or last week, he was saying that, you know,

1778
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:19,640
Speaker 1: they expect to have that figure sometime in mid February.

1779
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 1: So I think you can expect some negotiations to take

1780
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 1: place here over the next as soon as the Super

1781
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 1: Bowl is over. I'm sure there's some preliminary talks here now.

1782
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 1: Are encounters are dealing, They're doing their due diligence but

1783
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 1: they'll have a much better idea of where they're at

1784
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 1: and what they can do with the future. They'll have

1785
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 1: a much better idea too of hey, are we going

1786
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 1: to have people in the stands next year? We're not

1787
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 1: gonna have people in the stands next year to play

1788
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 1: every game and where they set one seventy five, they

1789
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 1: couldn't have thought that. And this thing is not going

1790
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 1: to get worse. Right, you've gone, you've gotten through the

1791
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 1: worst of it, right, and you're still way ahead above water.

1792
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 1: You're not drowning by any means. Yeah, so I expected

1793
01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 1: to me, I look forward to coming closer to a

1794
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 1: hundred nine million, and then I do. Then we're talking

1795
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:04,759
Speaker 1: about Bud and yeah, then you're talking about the Steelers

1796
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:06,680
Speaker 1: making just a couple of moves that you know you're

1797
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 1: not cutting Joe Hayden or one of these crazy things

1798
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:12,599
Speaker 1: to get under the cap. That's really exciting. Yeah, so

1799
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 1: we'll see what. We'll keep you updated on all that stuff.

1800
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 1: But that is going to do it for our show

1801
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:21,479
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1803
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1804
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:30,960
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1805
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,040
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