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Speaker 3: I want to evict my brother because he kept bringing

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Speaker 3: me down.

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Speaker 4: Skim the vibesman, you're said.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: They're one of us, and we do have a trigger warning.

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Speaker 5: There's mentions of verbal liell.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. It's a hot start, Okay.

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Speaker 5: Would I be the a hole for punting my brother out?

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Speaker 3: For years, I, thirty one female, have tried to be

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Speaker 3: the supportive sister.

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Speaker 5: I've opened my.

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Speaker 3: Door, my wallet, and my life to my older brother

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Speaker 3: three separate times, hoping each time that things would change.

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Speaker 3: At thirty four years old, he should be standing on

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Speaker 3: his own two feet. Instead, I'm the one holding him

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Speaker 3: up while he drags everyone around him down. He has

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Speaker 3: burned all the bridges in his own life and has

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Speaker 3: moved on to burning the bridges in mine. By the way,

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Speaker 3: this comes from why Me nineteen ninety four, and if

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Speaker 3: r slash okay Storytime, Supreddit.

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Speaker 5: So he lives in my home rent free.

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Speaker 3: I have him paid four hundred dollars a month that

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Speaker 3: I have been saving for him since he's bad with money.

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Speaker 1: That's what you do for child? Oh my god, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Can't while my husband and I carry the burden of

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Speaker 3: every expense. I pay for the bills, the food, the gas,

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Speaker 3: food and medicine for his dog.

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Speaker 5: Everything.

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Speaker 3: I do this while raising three kids with my husband,

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Speaker 3: managing our household, and trying to live a stable, loving life.

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Speaker 3: But instead of gratitude, I get lies, manipulation, and endless chaos.

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Speaker 3: When confronted, he shifts the blame onto me, saying family

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Speaker 3: helps family when I'm the only one left in his

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Speaker 3: corner and I've helped him regularly for the last twelve years,

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Speaker 3: or he avoids me entirely, gives me dirty looks and

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Speaker 3: gives me the cold shoulder. When I ask for his

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Speaker 3: help with anything dishes, mowing the lawn, or even just

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Speaker 3: asking him to take the trash out. He will procrastinate

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Speaker 3: for days until I snap and just do it myself.

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Speaker 3: And once I'm almost done with the task, he walks

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Speaker 4: Bro what He's just lacking a greater purpose in life.

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Speaker 4: That's what it is. He's never had anything bigger than

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Speaker 3: The emotional toll is even worse. He has repeatedly crossed

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Speaker 3: irrepairable damage. Most recently, he hooked up with my best

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Speaker 3: friend and only close friend. Afterward, when she realized it

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: When she started dating someone new, he lashed out, throwing

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Speaker 3: the guy at her. He blamed her for his drinking

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Speaker 3: that weekend, completely ignoring his own destructive behavior for clarification purposes.

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Speaker 3: They slept together once three months ago, and it was

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Speaker 3: the very next day she told him she wasn't going

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Speaker 3: one person I could rely on besides my husband for support,

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Speaker 3: no longer feels safe or welcome in my home and

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Speaker 3: has opted to create space between them, but also consequently

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Speaker 3: me because of him. As for my husband, and he

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Speaker 3: is also getting tired of the constant turmoil that has

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Speaker 3: He's my rock, my hype man, and the best dad

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Speaker 3: My brother and my husband have not seen an eye

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Speaker 5: This stems from.

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Speaker 3: The physical altercation they got into the first time my

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, you know, there's an option where you can

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Speaker 1: That's an option you have, You know that, right.

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Speaker 6: That's a great option.

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Speaker 5: We should do that option.

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Speaker 3: And the drinking, it's gotten completely out of control. This

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Speaker 3: past Fourth of July weekend was the final straw. He

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Speaker 3: so wasted he fell off the back of the porch twice.

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Speaker 3: He slept through the fifth, then got wasted again on

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Speaker 5: So thick you could cut it with a knife.

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Speaker 3: And when he once again fell over, I asked him bluntly,

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Speaker 5: Why do you always say that I am?

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Speaker 3: And under my breath, I said, because you always are.

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Speaker 3: His drinking started twelve years ago, and with each year

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Speaker 3: his apartments, and even got himself a DWAI.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's a new one. I've never heard of a detail.

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Speaker 1: I know the first part of it, Yeah, is second.

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Speaker 7: Part while ability impaired.

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Speaker 1: Oh all ability impaired.

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Speaker 7: Okay, it's a less severe events than a DWI or DUI.

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Speaker 7: Luz In New York, dw AI is a violation, not

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Speaker 7: a crime, but it has penalties like finds licensus mension,

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Speaker 7: So it's similar, but not as like I think it's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, how crap how much you have to

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Speaker 7: Also, yeah, if this is getting worse and worse and

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Speaker 7: you genuinely care for your brother, I mean maybe.

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Speaker 1: You brought it up, but like hope with this.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was gonna say, like rehab.

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Speaker 4: Rehab, miss roozy rehab and OPI an enabler CPP definitely

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Speaker 3: That was during the second stint of him living with me,

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Speaker 3: and he was never sober while on probation. The house,

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Speaker 5: What used to be a safe place for my.

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Speaker 7: Is So this is happening in front of your kids. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: this is on you now. I was about to say sorry,

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Speaker 7: I know, but that's come on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not that's not on you at all. That's

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Speaker 3: Though I try to shield them from it all, I

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Speaker 3: And also they are one hundred percent seeing all of this.

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Speaker 3: Kids are smart again. I am thirty one years old,

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Speaker 3: I have a husband, three kids, and a life I

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Speaker 4: It's crazy that not once in the story, op suggested

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't even seem to be on her mind

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Speaker 5: And I'm like, come on.

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Speaker 4: I understand, family's family. Here's my solution. Let's get him

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Speaker 4: he can that's his space.

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Speaker 5: Drop him off at rehab. Yeah, but we have an update.

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Speaker 3: I have offered to go to AA meetings with him.

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Speaker 3: I have offered to help him look into sober living housing.

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Speaker 3: I have even come up with meetings to just help

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Speaker 3: him cut back on his boos. In tape, he rejects

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Speaker 3: or the classic. I don't have an issue with you,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna save that one for another time. I don't

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Speaker 4: have an issue with caffeine. You just have an issue

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Speaker 5: Caffeine have an issue with me when I'm caffeinated.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like you have an issue, Yeah, you do

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Speaker 3: This isn't about being a good sister anymore. It's about

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Speaker 3: My heart is conflicted. He is my brother and I

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Speaker 3: How do I go about getting him out of my home?

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Speaker 3: Is this grounds for low to no contact?

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Speaker 5: Help me? We have some comments. Did we read him

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Speaker 5: or you got anything?

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Speaker 1: No contact?

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Speaker 4: Come out, be a good mother and apologize to your kids.

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Speaker 3: Comment one, he needs to go. He should have been

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Speaker 3: hearing too much, and being subjected to things for all

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Speaker 3: these years. I understand he's your brother, but you have

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Speaker 3: he will only be able to get better when he's ready,

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Speaker 3: and you unconsciously hold him back from getting to that

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Speaker 3: place by enabling him. Sorry to sound so harsh, but

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Speaker 3: I couldn't do this with my kids around.

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Speaker 5: Comment or two. I am saying this.

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Speaker 3: With all the love in the world, but he treats

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Speaker 5: It's like parenting, but with an adult.

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Speaker 3: You say do your chores, and he doesn't because he

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Speaker 3: knows you will eventually get annoyed and do it yourself.

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Speaker 3: You try to implement a boundary, He bulldozes through it

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Speaker 3: and acts belligerent because he knows you have a family,

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Speaker 3: supports family mindset.

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Speaker 5: If you don't call the cops on.

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Speaker 3: Him to have him removed, take him out for a

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Speaker 3: lunch in a public space to explain that he is

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Speaker 3: no longer welcome in your home. Have Hubby change the

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Speaker 3: some serious changes, he won't be allowed to live with

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Speaker 3: you anymore. He is hurting your family and traumatizing your

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Speaker 3: kids and it ends.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 5: Give him the money you've saved and walk away.

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Speaker 1: You probably just started walking. Hey, I'm walking here, en,

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Speaker 4: I've told my parents that we're going no contact with

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Speaker 4: I don't think she actually needs another bridesmaids for another

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Speaker 1: Here. By the way, my wife loves your show. You

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Speaker 1: my gosh, let's go dude, well do do do? Dude? Dude?

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Speaker 1: They blessed us. What the fing update? And we're halfway

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Speaker 5: Only cow you're doing it. You are not the a

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Speaker 4: the week or so since I dropped out.

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Speaker 8: I am just joy I have so much joy right now,

445
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 8: My sister found a replacement bridesmaid from my wife by

446
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 8: pressuring a cousin of her fiance.

447
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 4: Sister then proceeds to have a meltdown because there's no

448
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 4: way to get said cousin it customizes bride'smaid dress in time.

449
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 4: She tries to pressure my brother to get their dress

450
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 4: for my wife, but everyone involved points out that my

451
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 4: wife is almost an entire foot taller than said cousin,

452
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 4: four eleven to my wife's five po ten.

453
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 5: Hey, that's not gonna fit.

454
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 4: Bride'smaid problem is promptly solved when a groonsman is forced

455
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 4: to drop out due to getting the VID. Sister makes

456
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 4: no friends by expressing relief that a friend of the

457
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 4: groom with some a borabilities got a potential life risky disease.

458
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 4: At this point, any remaining relative still pestering me about

459
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 4: cutting off my sister stop. Some have the humility to apologize.

460
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 4: Other just pretend nothing's happened. The ones I pretend that

461
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 4: nothing happens. There's too many of those that exist.

462
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Speaker 1: Who many?

463
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Next, sister try to solve the officiating problem by

464
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 4: pushing my brother to do it. My parents very reasonably

465
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 4: got suspicious when my troll of a brother agreed too easily. Huh,

466
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 4: we what the troll of a brother agreed his troll

467
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Speaker 4: he's like, ye, officiate.

468
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Speaker 1: No problem.

469
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 3: Oh.

470
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 4: They convinced my sister that someone who was a friend

471
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 4: of a friend would be much better suited being an

472
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 4: actual minister. Sister reluctantly agrees, But my parents also expected

473
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 4: that the seats vacated by me and my wife would

474
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 4: go to the new officiant and his wife. My sister

475
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 4: refuses to have strangers at her reception. Argument got really

476
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 4: loud end result, my brother would be officiating. When telling

477
00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:00,719
Speaker 4: me the story, he seemed upset he wasn't able to perform.

478
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 3: I kind of wish that we had gotten it and

479
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 3: had gotten the like rundown of what the speech was.

480
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you said perform, not officiate.

481
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 5: Perform perform. That was gonna be some good stuff.

482
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 4: Finally, sister, not willing to give up her perfect photos,

483
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 4: reached out to even more families to bring their kids

484
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 4: to be used as props and then discarded for the reception.

485
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 4: Most families rightfully refused. Sister mother in law, trying to

486
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 4: be helpful perposon that she is, suggested as some of

487
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 4: the older kids in her family, kids who would take

488
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 4: the pictures and then could actually be left their own

489
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 4: devices for the ceremony. Sister refuses, given that her vision

490
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 4: involved cute toddlers and not stupid teenagers.

491
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 3: I'm sure they loved that, so they loved being called stupeen.

492
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 4: Sister and her mother in law proceeded to have a

493
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 4: loud argument that ended with mother in law in tears

494
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 4: and sister forming off. This was done in a public

495
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 4: restaurant with my parents and brother in attendance.

496
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: To get awkward for a few minutes.

497
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 4: Then my sister, apparently refusing to let the fight with

498
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 4: her future mother in law go, demanding her fiance uninvite

499
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:20,959
Speaker 4: his mother from the wedding.

500
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 6: Yeah.

501
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 4: This was in front of my parents and brother. Everyone

502
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 4: present tells sister she's out of line. Sister freaks out

503
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 4: at everyone. She claims it's unfair. Nobody's supporting her for

504
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 4: wanting her fiance to cut family off, but everyone supported

505
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 4: my wife when I cut her off. She starts wailing

506
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 4: in the restaurant. Wow.

507
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: Sister's fiance takes her home at this point.

508
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 4: Two hours later, the wedding was canceled and my father

509
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 4: forcefully removed my sister from her apartment she shared with fiance. Apparently,

510
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 4: the fight turned violent as my sister started throwing things.

511
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 4: One of the things my throne, was a jewelry box,

512
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 4: which broke when it hit the wall and revealed some

513
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 4: pills that were hidden in the little compartment.

514
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: It just keeps unfolding. There's more and more.

515
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 4: This led to a lot of concern on the fiance's part.

516
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 4: A thorough search of the apartment in her car and

517
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 4: revealed that my sister was a.

518
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: Zan Oh.

519
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 4: So yeah, the wedding got canceled. On Monday, I went

520
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 4: with my brother to get the rest of my sister's

521
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 4: stuff from the apartment. The fiance apologized to me. I

522
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 4: straight up told him I probably would have re evaluated

523
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 4: the wedding, which he got harmful with. The girl at

524
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 4: the bakery. Admitted that he had some misgivings for months now,

525
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 4: but stayed in because he felt he was stuck. It

526
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 4: was a classic sunk costs fallacy.

527
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 5: He just keeps coming up today.

528
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 4: It gets to the best of us, ma'am. My sister

529
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 4: is living at my parents' house currently. Her job suspended

530
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 4: her when they found out she was Zan. She's a

531
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 4: lab assistant at a pharmacyceutical company. Oh They told her

532
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 4: she would be fired if she doesn't go to rehab.

533
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 4: Her fiance also wants her to go to rehab and

534
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 4: therapy or even discussing a possible future whole leakal. My

535
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 4: sister is resisting despite my parents' best attempts. I forwarded

536
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 4: the messages my wife and I got for my censor

537
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 4: since we've muted her. There were one hundred of very

538
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 4: deranged messages. It probably won't work, but they may be

539
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 4: able to convince a judge to issue a psychoagic cold

540
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 4: on her until she actually goes into rehab. Though I

541
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 4: will remain uninvolved. If she does go, I will help

542
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 4: my parents with paperwork and navigating doctors and such.

543
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: To know. My family is Taiwanese.

544
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 4: My parents can speak English well enough to get by,

545
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 4: but unless three rehab center can provide an interpreter, I'm

546
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 4: willing to go help with this. On another note, my

547
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 4: parents and sister had booked a very large exclusive suite

548
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 4: at the Resist. The room has multiple bedrooms, a living room,

549
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 4: a dining room, and even a kitchen. As an apology,

550
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 4: they offered the room to me and my wife. So

551
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 4: on ironic twist, I'm writing this update from the wedding.

552
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: Venue that I had intended to avoid this weekend.

553
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 5: That's kind of crazy, though, that's a little crazy.

554
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:21,719
Speaker 1: I like it.

555
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 6: I'm here for it.

556
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 4: Since the room was massive, we invited sister law and

557
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 4: her kids to come with us. Brother in law can't

558
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 4: get off work, so he'll join us over the weekend.

559
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 4: My brother is also here with his fiance. Turns out

560
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 4: she's pregnant. I jokingly asked my brother if he considered

561
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 4: announcing it at her sister's wedding. He was suspicially vagued

562
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 4: about his plans, saying that nothing would have happened if

563
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 4: sister behaved. On that note, I'm glad my brother was

564
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 4: still financially dependent on our parents when I got married.

565
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 4: That is wild. This is the best Bridezilla story I've

566
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 4: ever read in my.

567
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 5: Life because it's the only one with like, I mean,

568
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 5: it's not a good turnout, but like, whoa, this is crazy.

569
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: And then going to the like basically like the bridal

570
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: suite for the whole weekend of like.

571
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: Isn't Reddit tiving this out?

572
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

573
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 5: Guys, By the way, I'm in her room now.

574
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: Pro great, this is the best.

575
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 6: Yeah.

576
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 4: Anyway, It's almost funny how I spent months actually dreading

577
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 4: this week and coming only for it to now be.

578
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: Amazing my life.

579
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 4: Sysali and brothers fiance are going shopping for baby and

580
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 4: maternity stuff tomorrow.

581
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: Cute.

582
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, since I had promised the kids I would take

583
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 4: them fishing, brother and I will wrangle the kids up

584
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 4: to a lake for a fishing day trip. I plan

585
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 4: to call my parents after we get back to see

586
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 4: if my sister ends up giving on on rehab and therapy.

587
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 4: I know some people are already inclined to blame the

588
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 4: zan for issues. While the substances may be a part

589
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 4: of the problem, I don't think they're entirely to blame.

590
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 4: She probably has a long road of rehab and therapy

591
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 4: ahead of her.

592
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: Hit her crap together. See you into that one.

593
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 5: Wow, Wow, dude, handled that great.

594
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: Beautiful, beautiful opie.

595
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 4: Wow, your wife is fantastic for you just suggesting this,

596
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 4: and we love you for that.

597
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,440
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602
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: six have been friends since elementary school, and I honestly

603
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 3: thought of her as a sister. We tell each other everything,

604
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: went to the same college, and even though we have

605
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: two different jobs, we work in the same area. By

606
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Speaker 3: the way, this comes from Strict Troubles seventy oh six

607
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: and if you want us to make your own stories,

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Speaker 3: go to the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. Emma was

609
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: my rock for years as I battled self hate and

610
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: depression due to growing up in a small conservative town

611
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: as not only a person of color, but a closeted sapphig.

612
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 3: Emma did not know I was STAFFIK just knew that

613
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 3: I was unhappy, never staying in long relationships, self isolation,

614
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 3: and later I developed anorexia. Emma was the one who

615
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: suggested we go to an out of state college and

616
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: later suggested we move out of state too. I've gotten

617
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 3: much better since then, and for that I genuinely thank her.

618
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: Though about two years ago, Emma contracted herpies from some

619
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: guys she slept with, and it has been very hard

620
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 3: for her to land a boyfriend since then, and it's

621
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: made her very lonely. She hasn't told her family or

622
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: friends about it because she doesn't want to be seen

623
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 3: as gross. Due to this, I haven't really put myself

624
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: in the dating field and have put off coming out though.

625
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 3: About six months ago, I met this girl at a

626
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: craft store, long curly hair, dressed in all black with

627
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 3: big eyeliner and ruby lipstick. I couldn't stop staring at her,

628
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 3: and I admit when she smiled at me, I kind

629
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: of followed her around the store.

630
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 5: I know, creepy.

631
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: I eventually worked up the courage to just ask her

632
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 3: for her number, and she gave it to me.

633
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 5: I was so excited.

634
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 3: I started texting her that night, and since then we

635
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 3: have been hanging out a ton.

636
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 5: I think she likes me back.

637
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: I was going to ask her out, but since I

638
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: lived with Emma, I decided I should come out since

639
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: I will be bringing her around if the girl says yes.

640
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: So after work I sat her down and told her

641
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: I was sappok. I said all the anguish I went

642
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: through growing up because of my self hate. How I

643
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 3: wish I could have told her earlier, but I never

644
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: found the right time.

645
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 5: But now that I was in love with someone.

646
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 3: I felt like I should tell her that she was

647
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 3: the one person I trusted with this information. She just

648
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 3: stared at me, shocked for a few seconds, and then

649
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 3: her face turned from shocked to disgust. She jumped back

650
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 3: and accused me of being a pervert and how I

651
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: was gross for being around her so much, knowing I

652
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: was attracted to the same gender, even mentioning how she's

653
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: gotten changed around me and I'm no better than some

654
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: creepy man. I tried explaining I had no romantic feelings

655
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 3: for her and I honestly had a crush on someone else.

656
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 3: She wouldn't buy it and locked herself in her room. Later,

657
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: my phone started ringing off the hook, and to my surprise,

658
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 3: it was tons of messages from my family and our

659
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 3: friend group, either calling me closet slurs or asking if

660
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 3: it was true that I liked Emma.

661
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 5: My mother even called to scream at.

662
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: Me a few times and apparently I'm disowned.

663
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 5: Oh my god.

664
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 3: I started banging on the door and told her why

665
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 3: the heck she outed me to everyone, and she just

666
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 3: started calling me a pervert again. So I was like, oh, okay, fine,

667
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 3: you want to play fine. I had a pick of

668
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: her diagnosis and sent it to her parents and our

669
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 3: friend group. According to the only friend who didn't crap

670
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 3: on me, people are talking more about Emma than me

671
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: because she still shares stuff even though she has herpes.

672
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: Now they are grossed out and are accusing her of

673
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 3: trying to infect them with her disease, along with some

674
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: other shaming. Now I'm looking for a new apartment and

675
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 3: I'm still planning to ask the girl out this week.

676
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 3: But I was told by Emma's parents that I ruined

677
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 3: her reputation and labeled their daughter dirty. I feel bad,

678
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 3: but I felt like she deserved it, though I know

679
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: that a disease and my sapphicness are two different things.

680
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 3: So I'm wondering if I was really wrong to do that.

681
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 3: And we have an edit since some had asked. I'll

682
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 3: make another edit tomorrow asking her out. Tonight, I made

683
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: reservations at this nice tie place she's been wanting to try.

684
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 3: Then I'm going to take her to the boardwalk and

685
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 3: ask her out there as to not put her on

686
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 3: the spot in front of a ton of people. See

687
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 3: all then, and I hope it goes well and we

688
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 3: have an edit. A few hours later, I'm about to

689
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 3: go pick up Ruby. A commenter has been calling my

690
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: crush Ruby, and I think that's pretty cute, so that's

691
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 3: what I'm going to be referring to her as. Anyway,

692
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: for some contact since I was asked, Emma is staying

693
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 3: with a family friend who lives around here because her

694
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,959
Speaker 3: parents don't want us fighting. My lease is up soon,

695
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: and hopefully I've locked down something by then. At least

696
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: i'll be able to be alone now. Anyways, wish me

697
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 3: luck and we have some relevant comments. Comment to one,

698
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 3: everyone sucks here, but you less than others. Emma is

699
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 3: the a hole for outing you, and Emma's family are

700
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: a holes for saying contracting herpies makes her a dirty person.

701
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 3: You retaliated against Emma in a way that you knew

702
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 3: would hurt her, which is perfectly understandable, but still a

703
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 3: whole move. She blew up your life, though, and that's

704
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 3: not fair at all. I know you'll be okay. Hearing

705
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 3: slurs from your family and friends is terrible and I'm

706
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 3: sorry that happened, but they revealed themselves as a holes

707
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 3: and Opie replies, Honestly, it was pretty surreal experience. I

708
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: thought maybe they'd be mad but completely disowning me. I'm

709
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: happy I came out after my parents paid for my

710
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: college because just wow, Honestly, I feel like I stooped

711
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 3: down to her level by doing so. It kind of

712
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 3: made me feel like I was deserving of the hate

713
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 3: and that I didn't deserve to be able to come out. Though,

714
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 3: I'm going to try to push through these thoughts and

715
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 3: have a successful relationship. Thank you so much for your

716
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 3: kind words. In reply to a closet guard commenter, the

717
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 3: commenter was heavily downvoted, and they said I didn't see

718
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 3: her romantically and I was in the closet. There literally

719
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: was no reason for me to be weird about it.

720
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 3: I stated that she was essentially my sister. I'd never

721
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 3: think of her that way. Just because I'm sappik doesn't

722
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: mean I'm going to be attracted to every woman. Plus

723
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 3: Saffix still use locker rooms with straight women, and legit,

724
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: nothing happens. You make no sense. Also, I didn't deliver

725
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: get into nothing. My parents were pestering me about not

726
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 3: dating boys, so when a boy asked me out, I

727
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 3: just said yes. But I broke up with him because

728
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 3: I didn't like leading him on. It's not about keeping appearances,

729
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 3: it was about safety. The things that were said to me,

730
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 3: the threats I got, you can't even imagine. You have

731
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 3: no idea what it's like to be forced into a

732
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 3: role and have no way of getting out. I only

733
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: came out to her because I felt safe. Instead, she

734
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 3: put me in an unsafe situation, put all my business

735
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: on the table with added lies. Also, I came to

736
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: her saying I was in love with another woman. What

737
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 3: told her that I was into her?

738
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 5: Nothing? She just made it up. Comment her not the

739
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 5: a hole.

740
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: I find it very interesting that her first reaction was

741
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 3: discussed about you possibly being attracted to her, which is

742
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: so typically ignorant. She even told your friends that you're

743
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 3: into her? Like, how self absorbed is that? News flash,

744
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: saffix aren't attracted to every woman they see, and buys

745
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 3: aren't attracted to everything. Ohpi responds, Honestly, that's what surprised

746
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: me the most, Like the fact that she assumed I

747
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: was crushing on her. I have never acted in that

748
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: manner towards her. I feel like a lot of the

749
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 3: flak I'm getting from family and friends is because she

750
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: spinned some weird story to actually make me look like

751
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: a creep. My friend, who is still talking to me,

752
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 3: told me she said that she's describing me as some

753
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: locker room peeping tom. This doesn't help that I was

754
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: an athlete in high school, so I had to be

755
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 3: in the locker room with other women. I can only

756
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 3: imagine what's being said about me. Another commenter says, soft

757
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 3: not the a whole, basically because you did the right.

758
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 5: Thing for the wrong reasons.

759
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 3: Sure, outing someone's disease, health issues, whatever like that is

760
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 3: generally a wiener move, And granted I do have a

761
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 3: soft spot for petty revenge and consequences.

762
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 5: But she still shares stuff, and Opie.

763
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 3: Responds, yeah, I kept trying to get her to stop

764
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 3: sharing stuff with people, but she said she's on the medication,

765
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 3: so it's okay. I don't care, though I keep all

766
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 3: my cups and bowls in my room and my toothbrush.

767
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 3: Not that I didn't trust her, but it only takes

768
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 3: one mess up, and she was taking anything seriously. Commenter says,

769
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: what was Emma's reaction to being outed as spicy related

770
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 3: with an STI?

771
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,959
Speaker 5: Opie says, she called me a big old B word,

772
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 5: among other things.

773
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,479
Speaker 3: She also said she was glad she had herpies because

774
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: I probably would have tried to r word her. Oh

775
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 3: my god, genuinely insane. She's staying at a relative's house

776
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 3: who lives around here until our lease runs out. And

777
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: a commenter was down voted everyone sucks here, Like the

778
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: above poster said, you would have eventually come out. Seriously,

779
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 3: you would have. She just got you there faster. It

780
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: was effed up, but it would have happened. Her medical

781
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 3: diagnosis was her business. In some places, you can get

782
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 3: in trouble for what you did. You should have picked

783
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 3: something else if you needed the tip for tap Opie replies,

784
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 3: what other secret was I going to pit? She literally

785
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: had people wanting to unalive me before I sent.

786
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 5: Out that she had herpies.

787
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 3: They still want to unlive me, but they are focusing

788
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 3: more on her sharing things even though she knows she

789
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 3: has it. You're mentioning people who don't know they have

790
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 3: it and still share. She knows she has it and

791
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 3: still sharing stuff. Also, I know how common herpes is.

792
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: That's why I didn't give an f when she told

793
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: me she had it. I just get annoyed she had

794
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: active infections and tried sharing drinks with me. That's why

795
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 3: she went on the meds, because she had both types

796
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 3: and they were constant. Other than that, didn't care.

797
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 6: Though.

798
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 3: The community I live in is super religious and judgy,

799
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 3: so all they hear is herpes. So since they're getting

800
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 3: violent with me, they can be disgusted with her. They

801
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 3: aren't going to hurt her over it, but they will

802
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: hurt me, which is why I will never be able

803
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 3: to see my family or friends again. Also, there's no

804
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 3: legal trouble I can get in in my state for

805
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 3: doing that because I didn't tell her job. I'm pretty

806
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: sure she can get into more trouble for pestering me,

807
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 3: yelling slurs, and putting me in a potentially fatal situation.

808
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 3: Inciting violence on an sapphic person kind of sounds like

809
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: a hate crime.

810
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 5: I won't lie.

811
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 3: Saying I was going to eventually come out is screwed up.

812
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 3: This isn't like something you just do like I can

813
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 3: be her overcoming out. I was supposed to be able

814
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 3: to weigh the risk and benefits, but she took that

815
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 3: away from me because of how dangerous it is. Some

816
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 3: people never come out and stay in the closet their

817
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 3: whole life. And the commenter says and telling also helped

818
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: reduce the negative reactions to the private information Emma revealed.

819
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 3: Opie's mom disowned Opie for this. I'd say if Emma

820
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 3: started the fire, Opie can use her to reduce it.

821
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 3: Opie responds, that's exactly what happened. A good chunk of

822
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 3: people who were threatening to show up to my apartment

823
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: and unlive me are now upset with Emma, especially from

824
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 3: what I hear. Her brother and sister in law are

825
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: the most mad because she has been kissing up on

826
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: their baby.

827
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 5: Like last year.

828
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 3: She had been on the medication, no active infections and

829
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 3: it wasn't on the mouth, so the baby is fine,

830
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: but they don't understand how herpes works. Honestly, my town's

831
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 3: ignorance to everything is really shooting her in the foot

832
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: right now, she still could have been shedding the virus

833
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: and could have unalived the baby. Oh damn, I thought

834
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 3: it was just newborn's it otlives. The baby was seven

835
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 3: months at the time. The baby doesn't seem to have

836
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 3: contracted it luckily, but dang yeah, then they aren't overreacting,

837
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 3: especially if she could have potentially unlive to their baby.

838
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: Though to be honest, I just think they didn't want

839
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 3: their kid to seem dirty because most of their comments

840
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 3: consisted of them saying that.

841
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 5: She tried to spread her STDs to a child.

842
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: And another commenter says, you're in love. Oh please, you're infatuated.

843
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: There is nothing wrong with that, but you're not in love.

844
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: You don't even know this chick, and Opie says, I mean,

845
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 3: six months is a decent amount of time, but fair.

846
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 3: She's just the first crush I've been able to pursue

847
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 3: in a ever so, and we have an update. So,

848
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 3: as I stated in my last post, Emma is now

849
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: staying with a relative in our area till our lease ends.

850
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 3: The actual update on this is this morning, Emma's parents

851
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 3: were at my door. They flew out because Emma is

852
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 3: refusing to step back into our apartment. So I let

853
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 3: them come inside because I wasn't about to hold Emma's

854
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: stuff hostage, but I did something stupid. See, they didn't

855
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: really want to speak to me, which is fine, but

856
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: I decided I just to just wait in my room

857
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 3: until they left. Me and Emma have an emergency fund

858
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 3: that had about five k in it. I put roughly

859
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: two point seven k they took it the entire thing

860
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 3: I noticed. I called them to give me back my

861
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 3: money because not all of it is hers, and they

862
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 3: told me that I earned more than Emma and this

863
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 3: was compensation for ruining her reputation. I was like, so

864
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 3: it's okay that she tried to screw me over first.

865
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: Their response, Emma did not choose this disease, you chose yours.

866
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 3: I didn't even respond that. I just hung up. Honestly,

867
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: I don't even care. They didn't take anything else other

868
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: than the money. I genuinely don't want to see them anymore.

869
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: Emma also has been cut off from her siblings because

870
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 3: they have kids and she was kissing the babies without

871
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 3: telling the parents, without letting the parents know of her diagnosis.

872
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 3: She also usually was not taking proper precautions during an

873
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 3: active outbreak.

874
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 5: So yeah, so now.

875
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: None of her siblings want her around them because they

876
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 3: feel betrayed. Though on a lighter note, ME and Ruby

877
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 3: are officially dating. A commenter kept referring to her as Ruby,

878
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 3: and honestly, I think that matches. We went out to

879
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 3: a fancy tie spot, watched a movie, and then I

880
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 3: took her to the water at the edge of the city.

881
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 3: I had some stupid playlists set up. I was trying

882
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 3: to tone it down, but I couldn't too excited. I

883
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: told her how beautiful I thought she was and how

884
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 3: I enjoyed spending time with her, and if she was

885
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 3: okay with it, if I could take.

886
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 5: Her out on a date sometime.

887
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 3: I had a whole speech prepared, but one of the

888
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: comments told me I should be simple, not scare her.

889
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 5: She laughed at me. She said this was the first date,

890
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 5: so that was a yes. I dropped her.

891
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: Off at her house and she gave me a kiss

892
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 3: before she left, and I'm so happy.

893
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 5: I've never kissed a girl before. Ah.

894
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: So yeah, I actually give zero craps about the money.

895
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 3: I just want them out so I can start my

896
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 3: new life. Anyway, that was all. Thanks a lot for

897
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 3: the advice and support, and we have a relevant comment.

898
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 3: To be honest, I'm pissed by the fact they stole

899
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 3: your money, regardless, I guess this was a good ending

900
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 3: after all. Good for you, op and Opie says, I'll recover.

901
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 3: I have my own separate savings. But this, honestly was

902
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 3: just rubbing salt in the wound. I mean, yay, for

903
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 3: you and Ruby, that's so exciting. Congratulations and yeah, I

904
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: mean if you're good with it, then everyone's out of

905
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 3: every bad situation. And like I said, you have a

906
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: good head on your shoulders, and I hope that you

907
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: can find a good support system.

908
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 9: I asked my daughter for another chance, but she won't

909
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 9: give in no sugar warning mentions of verbal abuse. I'm

910
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 9: a father of four, three girls and one boy, and

911
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 9: I have a very complicated relationship with my youngest daughter, Mattie.

912
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 9: Summarize the best I am able. Her mother and I

913
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 9: have been through a lot while she was growing up.

914
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 9: Her mother is bipolar depression and from when Maddie was

915
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 9: about five to eleven, either was not properly medicated or

916
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 9: did not take her mets. By the way, this comes

917
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 9: from swimming Archer, thirty six, twenty seven and if you

918
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 9: want to spit your own stories, go to the r

919
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 9: slash Okay storytime separate it. As a side note, I

920
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 9: have autism and I have just now recently come to

921
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 9: accept this fact. It has truly limited my ability to communicate.

922
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 9: I traveled for work on the weekdays, so I was

923
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 9: not home to help care for my four kids. This

924
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 9: unfortunately resulted in a lot of traumatic events that I

925
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 9: wish did not occur. Her mental health made our relationship

926
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 9: extremely strained, and Mattie was exposed to a lot of

927
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 9: arguments and bitter fights between us. I do admit that

928
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 9: we fought more than was healthy, and she saw a

929
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 9: few times talks of divorce. We moved twice before Mattie

930
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 9: was fifteen as a result of my wife's mental outbursts.

931
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 9: Huge event, though, was when I found out my wife

932
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 9: emotionally cheated on me with a coworker. I was so angry,

933
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 9: and I admit that I took it out upon my

934
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 9: daughters and son for the next four years. I do think, though,

935
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 9: that this was a better solution than the alternative leaving them.

936
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 9: In short, these tensions produced a lot of bad environments

937
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 9: for Mattie and her siblings, resulting in bitterness and anger.

938
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 6: The issue becomes is now that Mattie is.

939
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 9: Twenty and she has grown extremely angry about her upbringing.

940
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 9: She's home for the summer and she treats us horribly

941
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 9: most of the time we were around her. It's quite

942
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 9: honestly like we are walking on eggshells with her. She

943
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 9: constantly brings up traumatic events she went through while my

944
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 9: wife was mentally ill, such as my wife threatening self

945
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 9: harm or the trauma she suffered from my yelling throughout

946
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 9: the years. I am not saying she cannot bring this up,

947
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 9: but my wife and I have undergone three years of

948
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 9: therapy to fix our relationship, and we have moved so

949
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 9: far past her child.

950
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 6: In teen years.

951
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 9: This all came to a head three days ago when

952
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 9: Mattie told us that she did not feel like we

953
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 9: listened to her. She was psychoanalyzing the way I replied

954
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 9: to certain things as if she was justifying why she

955
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 9: felt unseen. I told her that she just missed her

956
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 9: college friends and then we aren't a substitute for it.

957
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 9: She denied it, and she started to speak about the

958
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 9: last year and how she felt unseen. I was honestly

959
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 9: fed up because we have been trying our best to

960
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 9: form a new relationship with her after her childhood, and

961
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 9: I told.

962
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 6: Her it was bs.

963
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: Oh God.

964
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 9: This led to a huge fight where Mattie claimed that

965
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 9: we mistreated her entire life through verbalis and also being

966
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 9: exposed to wife's mental health. She claims that I was

967
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 9: not healthy and treated them poorly, despite the fact that

968
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 9: she was better off than ninety percent.

969
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 6: Of kids financially.

970
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: Boy, you had food on your table.

971
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 9: Who cares if I was screaming at you and telling

972
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 9: you that I was divorcing your mom. I understand where

973
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 9: she's coming from, and I apologize to her for it,

974
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 9: but I told her that I will not beg.

975
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: For her forgiveness.

976
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 9: Oh God, I admitted to some of the verbal but

977
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 9: I refused to sit there and say she was mistreated

978
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 9: for her entire life. She got really upset at this

979
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 9: and began to yell and cry. I told her that

980
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 9: she was not recognizing that she also made mistakes when

981
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 9: she was growing up. You child, when you were eleven,

982
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 9: you made a mistake. I, the adult, recognized that you,

983
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 9: at eleven years old, made mistakes. She was a freaking child,

984
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 9: and she yelled that even if she did, she was

985
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 9: a minor and was not responsible, as I was the parent.

986
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 9: At this point, I asked her to do family therapy,

987
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 9: and she refused on the basis that she was a kid.

988
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 9: My wife turned her private therapy sessions into family therapy.

989
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 9: She would talk to her therapist about her behavior and

990
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 9: try to fix the relationship. It was meant to be helpful,

991
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 9: but Maddie didn't see it that way and then stole

992
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 9: her therapist when she was eleven. As my wife begged

993
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 9: Maddie to see the same therapist as her despite her

994
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 9: initial refusal, I was done with her targeting my wife,

995
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 9: who at the time was extremely mentally unwell.

996
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 1: Has anything changed I've done yet years of work.

997
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 9: I told her that she could take her ey or

998
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 9: out on me, not my wife. I don't think my

999
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 9: wife is to blame. You'd be wrong, and I told

1000
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 9: her that I was like blaming her trauma on something

1001
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 9: that happened in child.

1002
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 2: Who would ever this What a ridiculous idea of something

1003
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: in your childhood being traumatizing.

1004
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: That's that's impossible.

1005
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 9: Eventually she has to grow up and face the facts

1006
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 9: of an adult relationship. She told me that she was

1007
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 9: unable to move on from what she suffered, and then

1008
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 9: began to list even more events of hers such as

1009
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 9: times that I yelled at her or my wife did

1010
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 9: decided the lack of support and criticism in her current

1011
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 9: major as a reason of I responded that, well, yeah,

1012
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 9: I wasn't supportive of her decision, and I was very

1013
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 9: critical for the last two years we have supported her.

1014
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 9: I told her again and we could do therapy, which

1015
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 9: she refused.

1016
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: I was done playing this game, but what game?

1017
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 9: And I told her that either she can give us

1018
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 9: a chance or we can have a strictly cordial relationship

1019
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 9: because there was nowhere else to go.

1020
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 6: She can't keep treating us like.

1021
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: Her old one tuin bags.

1022
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 9: She told me that she doesn't know what else to

1023
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 9: do because if I couldn't admit she was mistreated her

1024
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 9: whole life, not just only a few moments, she can't

1025
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 9: move on. I told her I wouldn't lie or beg

1026
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 9: to her. Maddie then told us that we can keep

1027
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 9: a specifically neutral relationship moving on, and then she told

1028
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 9: my wife she wouldn't be going to a planned movie

1029
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 9: with her tomorrow due to this.

1030
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 6: My wife broke down and I was so angry at Maddie.

1031
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 9: I asked why she would do that, but Mattie responded

1032
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 9: that she was doing what I asked her to do,

1033
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 9: but this isn't what I wanted. She asked her mother

1034
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 9: if she was hurting her, and I told her that

1035
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 9: she was. She looked shocked but left. I tried to

1036
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 9: console my wife, but it took a good thirty minutes.

1037
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 9: I'm at a loss on what to do now. We

1038
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 9: saw each other today, but we didn't say a word

1039
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 9: to each other. He claims she wants a relationship, but

1040
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 9: either can't write now or not under these conditions. I'm

1041
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 9: sorry to say, but I'm far past justifying her behavior

1042
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 9: towards my wife, who was mentally ill, and myself, who

1043
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 9: suffered from anger and autism that I couldn't control. I

1044
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 9: truly tried to explain to her regarding the latter, but

1045
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 9: she said that it wasn't a justification for the way

1046
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 9: I treated her.

1047
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 6: I do admit there were some verbal issues.

1048
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: But honestly, that's just parenting.

1049
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 9: I apologize to her, and I can't change the past.

1050
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: Am I the a hole?

1051
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 6: There's an edit?

1052
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 1: But John tell him, talum, John tell him.

1053
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 2: There's so many things. But you know what, John, you

1054
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 2: know what I'll boil it down to.

1055
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: My actions happened to me, Shuck.

1056
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 2: What I will boil it down to is you keep

1057
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: saying like, oh, I listened, and I acknowledge them.

1058
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: Why I say, admit of these.

1059
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: Things you have not Your daughter does not feel one ounce,

1060
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: one iota of being seen or heard at all in

1061
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 2: the slightest.

1062
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 9: This is you, guys, daughter, I swear I'm seeing you.

1063
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: You look great.

1064
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, I see anything, I see it all.

1065
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: You're blind.

1066
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 9: You literally can't see anything this bird box because you're

1067
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 9: freaking blind.

1068
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: Wow. Great reference.

1069
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: Thanks, But yeah, I mean this man literally, whatever therapy

1070
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 2: he did, he should get a refund because this is

1071
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: not it.

1072
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 1: My guy. I want to know what he learned.

1073
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 6: Nothing.

1074
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. The therapist said, hey, your daughter sucks.

1075
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 6: Apologize.

1076
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 9: Well, I feel like his therapist was probably like, you should.

1077
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 9: You should probably like try and have a relationship with daughter.

1078
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,479
Speaker 9: Apologize for all the things that you did. And he said,

1079
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 9: uh huh.

1080
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: Huh, I hear you, but that's not right. So and

1081
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: he's like, well, I did.

1082
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 6: I went to therapy. So I did it in the.

1083
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: Parking lot everything therapy. He was in the parking lot

1084
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: for the therapist. Yeah, he was like, sorry, so I'm done.

1085
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: So I'm done.

1086
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 6: Edits.

1087
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 9: I apologize if this sounds fake, but I want to

1088
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 9: assure you that it's not. I do not know what

1089
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 9: to do anymore with her. I know that's true, and

1090
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 9: I'm looking for serious advice. Additionally, I want to put

1091
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 9: out there that I have acknowledged the she suffered, as

1092
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 9: I am not blind to my faults that we both committed.

1093
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 9: The issue becomes her claiming that her entire life was abused.

1094
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 9: We did the best we could while dealing with our

1095
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,439
Speaker 9: other emotional issues. I love daughter, and I have done

1096
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 9: the best I could by her for the past three

1097
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 9: years and my support of her financially. She won't let

1098
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 9: us touch her, and she's snap every time we speak

1099
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 9: to her. I do not need her to be better now.

1100
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 9: I just want a chance to show her that we've changed.

1101
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 9: I'm not the man I was. He told me that

1102
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 9: she can't be the little girl that I want her

1103
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 9: to be, and I tried to tell her that I

1104
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 9: don't want her to be anyone else but the smart

1105
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 9: woman she is now.

1106
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 6: She told me that I was lying.

1107
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 9: Edit too, I forgot to mention the fact that I

1108
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 9: told her I would wait for her to come to

1109
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 9: us with what she wants from the relationship. I also

1110
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 9: want to place clarification upon what began this argument. She

1111
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 9: is a pianist and gave a speech about her time

1112
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 9: and gave a speech about her time in school and

1113
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 9: how she did not feel seen by her professors and

1114
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 9: found someone she likes here, and then she ended it

1115
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 9: by asking me to pay for her lessons from a

1116
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 9: teacher that were seventy dollars an hour. I told her

1117
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 9: I was already paying for summer classes, but then I

1118
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 9: agreed to pay for three lessons.

1119
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 6: She told me that she was hurt.

1120
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 9: I didn't acknowledge her issues within school and only focused

1121
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 9: on the monetary issue.

1122
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 6: Edit three.

1123
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 9: Hello, This is the last update I'll make because I

1124
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 9: feel like I'm just making it all the more complex.

1125
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 9: I just want to give some context to Maddie's teenage years.

1126
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: Here we go.

1127
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 9: Anger is not a new thing for We had so

1128
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 9: many arguments when she was a teen. She would scream

1129
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 9: and act out with little ignition, or even if someone

1130
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 9: told her hello, she would snap and mouth off at us.

1131
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 9: She drove off for hours after these fights, especially when

1132
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 9: I tried to tell her the way she was treating

1133
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 9: us was not healthy and that we can discuss this

1134
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 9: productively and try to work it out. Our relationship is

1135
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 9: not as simple or easy to say one way or

1136
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 9: the other. We both have done each other wrong. I

1137
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 9: wish I could take it all back. And there is

1138
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 9: an update. My daughter has found this post and posted

1139
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 9: her own version. I respect her and her side of things,

1140
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 9: but those messaging me claiming that it's me within another count,

1141
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 9: it's not. I'm not responsible for her posts, and she's

1142
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 9: warranted to express herself in any capacity she feels she

1143
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 9: must comment.

1144
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 6: One, you're the a hole.

1145
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 9: Yes, short version, just because you and your wife have

1146
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 9: moved so far past her childhood ten years doesn't mean

1147
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 9: she has. She's just now getting a chance to process

1148
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 9: the crap, show that it was her childhood. Suck it

1149
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 9: up and accept that she still needs to deal with

1150
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 9: what you've done to her. And f you for saying

1151
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 9: that verbal This is just parenting. You're a piece of crap,

1152
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 9: regardless of your neurodiversity, insanely infuriating. You are your heartest closed. Yeah,

1153
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 9: and your daughter is really trying.

1154
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 2: Trying to show you, to get you to see and

1155
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: you have not listened to her or ever in this

1156
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 2: whole thing, and it seems like in her life.

1157
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: Ever actually respected her.

1158
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 4: Nope.

1159
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: Hey, it's John here, og host of the show. We're

1160
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 2: going to get back to these juicy stories. But here's

1161
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 2: a quick three minutes of ads from our sponsors. My

1162
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 2: sister befriended my ex as a fair partner, so I

1163
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 2: stopped helping her financially.

1164
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 6: No money for you.

1165
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: My ex husband, currently forty three male, and I forty

1166
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 2: three female.

1167
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 1: Were college sweethearts. For me. Life fell perfect.

1168
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 2: I trusted him completely and that's why it was so

1169
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 2: shocking when I found out he was in love with

1170
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: his much younger colleague.

1171
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 5: Yikes.

1172
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Pretty Woman, and if

1173
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 2: you want to submit your own story, go to the

1174
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 2: ours last thirty times. So she was around twenty four

1175
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 2: at the time. I won't get into the details of

1176
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 2: how I found out, but the affair was well known

1177
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: at his workplace. When I confronted him, all he said

1178
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 2: was I'm sorry. I tried really hard out to fall

1179
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 2: for her. He didn't seem sorry at all. It felt

1180
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: like he wanted me to leave him, so I did.

1181
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 2: That was six years ago. Our son was four then,

1182
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 2: and it was the worst time in my life. I

1183
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: honestly don't know how I got through it, and because

1184
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: I was desperate, I wanted him to fight for me,

1185
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: to fight for our family, but he didn't. He was

1186
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 2: quick to sign the divorce papers and didn't even fight

1187
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: for custody.

1188
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: It was as if he.

1189
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 2: Had started a new life and completely erased the old one.

1190
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 2: Took years of therapy to feel normal again, to stop

1191
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 2: checking that other woman's social media and co comparing myself

1192
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 2: to her the fact that she's very pretty and charming.

1193
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: It didn't help. His family loved.

1194
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 2: Her and is disgusting as it sounds. One of our

1195
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 2: common friends even said out loud, I don't support cheating,

1196
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 2: but I mean, look at her. I guess that's what

1197
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 2: everyone was thinking. This one was just stupid enough to

1198
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: devoice it out loud, so I had to cut off

1199
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 2: that group of friends too. They got married three years

1200
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 2: ago and now have a daughter, a picture perfect little family.

1201
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 2: The current arrangement is that our son stays with my

1202
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 2: ex on weekends and holidays, which works fine for the most.

1203
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 2: Last week, I found out my sister, twenty eight female,

1204
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 2: has been in touch with my ex all of these years.

1205
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: That would have.

1206
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 2: Been forgivable since they were close when we were married,

1207
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 2: but she saw him as a brother. But she's actually

1208
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 2: best friends with his new wife and she kept it

1209
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: from me for sixty years. I only found out because

1210
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: she left her phone at my house and I saw

1211
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 2: several texts from the wife.

1212
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: When I asked her about it. She just brushed it

1213
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: off and said it wasn't a big deal. It's not

1214
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: a big deal, don't worry about it.

1215
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 2: I told her she can do what she wants, but

1216
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 2: I will be cutting her off completely. I was helping

1217
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 2: her pay college loans. Loll and I'm going now contact.

1218
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 2: She called me unreasonable. Instead, I'm being petty and unable

1219
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: to move on from something that happened a long time ago.

1220
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 2: She also said the wife is a lovely person and

1221
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 2: a good friend. She said she will be fed financially speaking,

1222
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 2: So I told her to go f herself. Somehow, my

1223
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 2: parents agree with her. Everyone in my family seems to

1224
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: think I'm a petty, scorned, bitter woman, which I probably am,

1225
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 2: and I need objective advice.

1226
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: So am I the ahole who was not the A hole?

1227
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: There we go, Okay, great, le's get onto some relevant comments.

1228
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: Shall we comment?

1229
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 2: To Number one says, so your sister only cared to

1230
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: have you pay her loans. That's why she kept it

1231
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 2: a secret, and that's why you shouldn't feel bad for

1232
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 2: cutting her off. She needs to ask your lovely X

1233
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,919
Speaker 2: and his wife to foot the bill from here on out.

1234
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: Not the a hole, Opie says, I know she clearly

1235
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 2: chows a side during the divorce, but pretended to be

1236
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: on mine for the money. Common to Number two says,

1237
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: not the a hole. Someone who sides with a cheater

1238
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 2: is probably a cheater themselves. Maybe your sister can ask

1239
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 2: your ex and his wife to help instead, seeing how

1240
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 2: as they are best friends.

1241
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: Opie says.

1242
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: It's strange and I honestly don't know what level of

1243
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 2: pretty privileged this is, but no one seems to care

1244
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: what they did. They see two attractive people and act

1245
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 2: like that justifies everything. The cheating doesn't matter because they're

1246
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 2: too easy to look at. If nothing else, it made

1247
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: it a lot easier for me to cut a lot

1248
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 2: of people out of my life. Comment here, Number three says,

1249
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: not the a hole, Opie. Honestly, I'm kind of shocked

1250
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: your sister hit her friendship with them from you. I mean,

1251
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 2: she's your sister. I once help my brother hide a

1252
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 2: surprise party from his wife. But this, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1253
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: this is different. Opie says. Yep, six years callous interactions

1254
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: and not a word com much. Number four says, not

1255
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: the a whole. Sooner or later, one of those perfect

1256
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 2: people will cheat again and you can eat some popcorn

1257
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 2: while all their friends take sides. Opie says, I don't

1258
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 2: doubt that, but honestly, this woman worships my ex. From

1259
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 2: what I've heard, she pursued him despite knowing he was married.

1260
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 2: He didn't resist. He is a despicable human being, and

1261
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 2: so is she. Number five says, why the heck do

1262
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 2: your parents agree with your sister?

1263
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: I hope you get some therapy to deal with all

1264
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: of the losers in your life.

1265
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: Not the ape, Obi says, my ex and my sister

1266
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 2: were pretty close to all those years we were married.

1267
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 2: I mean, she's known him since she was a kid,

1268
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: so they think it's not fair for me to want

1269
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: her to cut him off completely. I would have been

1270
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 2: fine with that, but again, she's hid this for six years,

1271
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 2: and being close friends with his wife is just pushing

1272
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 2: it too far. And OPI responds to a comment about

1273
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 2: if her son knows what's going on, that's a great question.

1274
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: Has her ex and his wife tried to turn the

1275
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 2: sun against Sopi? Opie says, obviously not. Whatever our issues are,

1276
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 2: that's still his dad, who he adores. I am capable

1277
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: of setting aside my feelings for the sake of my child.

1278
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 2: They haven't. He enjoys his time with them and looks

1279
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: forward to it. I haven't thought that long into the future.

1280
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: He's ten now. Maybe when he's older, I'll tell him

1281
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: the truth. I don't know, to be honest. Right now,

1282
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 2: he's happy with whatever arrangement we have. And we have

1283
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 2: an update.

1284
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 6: Oh dang, and.

1285
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: Little spoiler alert and involves talking to the sisters. So

1286
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: we actually went telling the child in an age appropriate

1287
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 2: way and agreed upon narrative together of the truth.

1288
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 9: I think that if Ope and her ex come together

1289
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 9: and are like, Okay, I think we need to tell

1290
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 9: him what's going on, why this happened, and they both agree, yeah,

1291
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 9: age appropriate way. Yeah, but I think they have to

1292
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 9: like get on the same page. What's gonna be hard

1293
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 9: because he's like, they really don't like each other.

1294
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, for obvious reason. Yeah, updates. I spoke to my

1295
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: sister again.

1296
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 2: She apologized for reacting the way that she did last time,

1297
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 2: also for keeping it from me for all these years.

1298
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 2: She said she didn't tell me because she knew I

1299
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 2: would ask her to choose and she didn't want to

1300
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 2: be in that position. She said she never wanted to

1301
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 2: hurt me, but at the same time, she couldn't bring

1302
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 2: herself to walk away from the people who had been

1303
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 2: there for her. She said, it never felt fair to

1304
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 2: cut him off completely. Growing up, our parents were barely around.

1305
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 2: They were always busy with work, and for a long time,

1306
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 2: it was just me and my ex who were actually

1307
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: present in her life. He was like family to her.

1308
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 2: She brought up the accident she was in around five

1309
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 2: years ago. I knew about it, of course. She had

1310
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 2: multiple fractures, chematomas, in internal bruising. She was in the

1311
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: hospital for a while, in bedridden for weeks. I always

1312
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 2: assumed our parents were taking.

1313
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: Care of her.

1314
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 2: I never asked, and I never really checked in. I

1315
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 2: was too busy trying to manage a recent divorce, a

1316
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 2: small child, a career, and whatever was left of my

1317
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 2: mental health.

1318
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: She said. It was my ex's wife who stepped up.

1319
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 2: She took her to every appointment, picked up prescriptions, brought food,

1320
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 2: helped her move around, stayed with her when she couldn't

1321
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: be alone. At one point, she said, I know it hurts.

1322
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: But she was there. He was there.

1323
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 2: You weren't. You didn't even come to the hospital. I

1324
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 2: thought I was going to pass away and you didn't

1325
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 2: even go up, she cried. While telling me all of this,

1326
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 2: she said she still wants a relationship with me, but

1327
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: she's not going to cut them off. She also said

1328
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 2: she's fine with me not helping her with the loans anymore.

1329
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: She's planning to get a part time job and figure

1330
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 2: it out herself. She told my ex and the wife

1331
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 2: I bought our conversation. Apparently they offered to help her financially,

1332
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 2: but she turned it down too.

1333
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: I just listened.

1334
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 2: Then I told her she's free to do whatever she

1335
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 2: wants and so am I, and to never call me again.

1336
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 2: So that's where we are. Relevant comments here. So down

1337
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 2: voted commenter said, haha, you didn't even ask if her

1338
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 2: sister was passed away with friends like you? Who needs enemies?

1339
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 2: Opie says, I had a five year old, a full

1340
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 2: time job, and a brain that was barely holding together.

1341
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 2: I texted her, but no, I didn't go to the hospital.

1342
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 2: I assumed our parents were taking care of her.

1343
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: I was wrong. I'm not defending it.

1344
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 2: Opie says nothing in her explanation excuses addresses why she

1345
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 2: would befriend the woman you're ex cheated with Before her accidents.

1346
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: Opie says, she said they weren't friends before the accident.

1347
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 2: She was cordial to her. They only became close after

1348
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 2: the accident, and commentary number two says, how did they

1349
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 2: even know she was in the hospital unless she reached

1350
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 2: out to them first?

1351
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: You said you texted her. Did she ask you for help?

1352
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 2: I agree with everyone here saying you need to consider

1353
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 2: what narrative your son is being told. These people are

1354
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 2: mass and manipulators who have essentially now isolated to you

1355
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 2: from your friends and family. You need to fight for

1356
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 2: every other major holiday with your son so he has

1357
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,479
Speaker 2: memories of special times with you too. And Opie says,

1358
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 2: the hospital did contact me and my parents first, but

1359
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 2: I wasn't in a position to drop everything and take

1360
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 2: care of her.

1361
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened after that. I assumed my

1362
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: parents would take care of it.

1363
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 2: Comment to number three says, I commented not the ahole

1364
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 2: on the first post, and I still think not the

1365
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 2: a whole, but the hospital info wasn't in the first post.

1366
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 2: I still think taking the money and hiding her relationship

1367
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 2: was purposely deceptive, and she is a dishonest and manipulating person.

1368
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 2: You don't owe her financial subsidiation, But any relationship of

1369
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 2: substance obligates people to check on hospitalized people, especially if

1370
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: they have bed rest after being released.

1371
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: No matter what's going on in your.

1372
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 2: Own life, It's all part of that love thing where

1373
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 2: we care about people because we love them. Therefore, love

1374
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 2: causes us to be concerned and interested in the problems

1375
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 2: of those that we love.

1376
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: Even with all you had going on, your.

1377
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 2: Lack of interest in your sister's hospitalization implies that you

1378
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 2: weren't really that close, so it doesn't seem as if.

1379
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: There was enough relationship to salvage.

1380
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 2: Commentty Number four says BS. She's been feeding X and

1381
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 2: his mistress info about you for years. She has betrayed

1382
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,439
Speaker 2: you on multiple levels for years. Example, she ran right

1383
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 2: to them to tell them you cut her off, et cetera,

1384
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 2: pulled them word for word with her twist your whole exchange.

1385
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 2: She's also clearly a sympathy junkie and milks everyone for money, meals,

1386
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 2: riot support, et cetera. She has only kept quiet to

1387
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 2: keep your money flowing. My prediction now the information highway

1388
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 2: is dried up. Your ex and his mistress turned partner

1389
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 2: loses interest in sis real fast, his mistress slash partner

1390
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 2: will essentially be over sister if your X starts giving

1391
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 2: Sis money when the part time job doesn't happen, you

1392
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 2: watch It's fun for the three of them watching you

1393
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 2: spend your money on CIS, knowing that you were being played.

1394
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 2: But mistress won't think it's funny watching her fair partner

1395
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 2: start supporting unemployed CIS.

1396
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: Now the betrayal is out in the open.

1397
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,919
Speaker 2: My question is did your son know about CIS being

1398
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 2: tight with them and did they ask him to lie

1399
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 2: for them?

1400
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 1: Oh?

1401
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 2: Wow, that's the closing bit there, which I think we

1402
01:04:58,520 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 2: should respond to you real quick.

1403
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 9: So the commenters asking did the comments ask the sun

1404
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 9: to lie?

1405
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 2: The commenters base basically saying in the whole comment like, oh,

1406
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 2: they were all you know, the sister is like, you know,

1407
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 2: milking you for everything, she's like evil. Basically, they were

1408
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 2: all sitting back cackling that you were sending her checks

1409
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 2: for her college loans, a reach that we don't.

1410
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: We don't know that, and also I don't.

1411
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 9: I think all the commenters who are bringing up like

1412
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 9: the sister is trying to manipulate you and take all

1413
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 9: of your money.

1414
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 6: Are very much ignoring the fact that you said I

1415
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 6: don't want your money. I don't want your money.

1416
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: Remember that part? Do you remember?

1417
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1418
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: Apparently not