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Speaker 1: with you? How's your frenzy, Bucky? Your frenzied? DJ? It's crazy,

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Speaker 2: You have to think somewhere in there, Todd Simpson is

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Speaker 1: It can be a three. It has to be somewhere.

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Speaker 2: we're saying you can talk yourself into like, hey, we

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Speaker 1: They willing to come up to three. Maybe we'll do that.

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Speaker 1: DJ, I can't. I can't see it, and it's hard enough. Again,

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Speaker 2: to get this defensive front continue to be up and going.

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Speaker 1: What we do know is.

432
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Speaker 2: They do a great job developing their own players, particularly

433
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Speaker 2: in the trenches. I think it's incumbent upon them to

434
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Speaker 2: continue to stay with that though. They have to continue

435
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Speaker 2: develop these guys because it has been a very successful

436
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Speaker 2: run for the Eagles, because.

437
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Speaker 1: Their front line has been as good as any other

438
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Speaker 1: in the league, no doubt. Staying inside that division. The Commanders,

439
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Speaker 1: they spend the big money on Oway. So they bring

440
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Speaker 1: in Daoway from the Chargers four for one hundred twenty

441
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Speaker 1: five per years. About the Chargers on that one, think

442
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Speaker 1: about this buck. They wanted a third rusher in the

443
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Speaker 1: middle of the year last year, so they traded with

444
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Speaker 1: the Ravens and they traded a lowe Gilman because they

445
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Speaker 1: had some depth at the safety position. So they traded

446
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Speaker 1: a lowie Gilman and I think it was maybe a

447
00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,760
Speaker 1: seventh round pick. It was a late pick to go

448
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Speaker 1: along with him. Next to nothing, Oway had no sacks

449
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Speaker 1: with the Ravens at that point in time. This four

450
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Speaker 1: or five weeks into the season comes over, the Chargers,

451
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Speaker 1: has seven and a half sacks, has three sacks in

452
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Speaker 1: the playoff game against New England, so game ten and

453
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Speaker 1: a half sacks. Then he goes and gets this contract,

454
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Speaker 1: So they got to use him up, get ten and

455
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Speaker 1: a half sacks out of him, and they're going to

456
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Speaker 1: end up probably netting a third or fourth round pick

457
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Speaker 1: next year via the comp system. That's a heck of

458
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Speaker 1: a rental man.

459
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a heck of a rental Now, I

460
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Speaker 2: would say the fear factor that I would have from

461
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Speaker 2: the Commanders. We saw him have production with the Chargers,

462
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Speaker 2: didn't have a lot of production with the Baltimore Ravens,

463
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Speaker 2: didn't have a lot of production coming out of college.

464
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Speaker 2: When we're talking about one hundred million dollar man, there's

465
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Speaker 2: an expectation that.

466
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Speaker 1: Annually we're gonna have double digit plus? Can we get

467
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Speaker 1: that from him?

468
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Speaker 2: He's talented and dan Quinn is a pass rushing guru

469
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Speaker 2: when it comes to working with guys, But one hundred

470
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Speaker 2: million dollar man expectations are through the roof in terms

471
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Speaker 2: of what he needs to deliver for the command.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ten and twenty four after not having more than

473
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Speaker 1: five in his first three years, right, five three five

474
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Speaker 1: has the big ten sack year, so expectations rise, and

475
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Speaker 1: then through five games didn't have a sack and then

476
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Speaker 1: ends up picking up seven and a half. So I

477
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Speaker 1: guess seventeen and a half over the last two years.

478
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Speaker 1: You kind of feel like you're getting a player on

479
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Speaker 1: the rise. But that's a lot of money. And he

480
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 1: is I won't say one dimensional, but he's definitely more

481
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Speaker 1: of a speed player, yeah, than a power player.

482
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Speaker 2: And I mean if your fastball is is untouchable, you

483
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Speaker 2: can rock with it. But I mean that's a lot

484
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Speaker 2: to put on him, you know, that's that's a lot

485
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Speaker 2: to put on him to say, hey, this is what

486
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Speaker 2: we're gonna be able to do and you go. And

487
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Speaker 2: it's different being the complimentary guy. It's like it's different

488
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Speaker 2: being Batman than than Robin. So now he's expected to

489
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Speaker 2: be the lead horse. He was the third rusher. I mean,

490
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Speaker 2: yeah to Mac and then him who is the Alfred?

491
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Speaker 1: He was Alfred. He doesn't even agreed, so now and

492
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Speaker 1: so now we need him to be Batman. That's a

493
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Speaker 1: lot of persson.

494
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Speaker 2: It's a different thing because he's gonna get all the

495
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Speaker 2: attention they're gonna slide his way. They're gonna make sure

496
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Speaker 2: they pay attention to him. If he's worthy of that.

497
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Speaker 2: We'll see if he's up to the task.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a fantastic line' say, quick break, we'll come back,

499
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Speaker 1: get to some more of this free agency frenzy stuff.

500
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Speaker 1: Right after this, Giants buck Isaiah likely familiarity with John Harball.

501
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 1: He comes over, they keep illuminer the tackle three years,

502
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Speaker 1: thirty nine million. Tremaine Edmunds linebacker comes on over three

503
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Speaker 1: for thirty six. So a fairly active day there for

504
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Speaker 1: the Giants. They lost some good players though, particularly a

505
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Speaker 1: couple when you talk about flat and going to the

506
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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, and he was Wandelle Robinson's a good receiver

507
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Speaker 1: goes to the Tennessee Titans. So a couple a couple leaving,

508
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Speaker 1: a couple coming there for the Giants.

509
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny about familiarity. Isaiah likely been a

510
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 2: big gift for them. Everyone was so worried about weapons

511
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Speaker 2: around Jackson dark and I would say Isaiah likely is

512
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Speaker 2: coming off a disappointing year. Who knows why he didn't

513
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Speaker 2: have the same kind of production he had the year before,

514
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Speaker 2: But we do know he does create and exploit mismatches

515
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Speaker 2: on the perimeter, and when you can work the middle

516
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 2: of the field with a young quarterback, it allows you

517
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Speaker 2: eventually to get those big plays down the field.

518
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Speaker 1: To my leak neighbors, he's.

519
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 2: A big addition, the familiarities everything, and John Harbaugh meant

520
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 2: to me it's amazing what a long time and a

521
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Speaker 2: respected coach can do because there seems to be a

522
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Speaker 2: legitimacy about the Giants and what they're doing and how

523
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Speaker 2: they're approaching it and those things. And I feel like

524
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Speaker 2: when we get to picking teams that are going to

525
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Speaker 2: be on the rise next year, I feel like the

526
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Speaker 2: Giants are will be there just because of Harbor and

527
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Speaker 2: what they're about.

528
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Speaker 1: To do in New York. Yeah, still more work to

529
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Speaker 1: be done there and as they go towards the drafts,

530
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Speaker 1: if they continue to fill out the rest of their roster,

531
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Speaker 1: but I do think likely it's going to be a

532
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Speaker 1: nice fit there with a young quarterback. I like that

533
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Speaker 1: move a lot. The Saints helping out their quarterback. Tyler

534
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Speaker 1: Shuck Go and get etm running back four years fifty

535
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Speaker 1: two million, David Edwards guard four years, sixty one million,

536
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Speaker 1: coming over from Buffalo. I did find it interesting if

537
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Speaker 1: you look at the Saints and the Chiefs picking eight

538
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Speaker 1: to nine, both kind of mentioned with Jeremiah Love throughout

539
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Speaker 1: this process. I think both teams thinking when after the combine,

540
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Speaker 1: seeing that dude in person, I think he put our

541
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Speaker 1: eggs in that back at basket. So they both went

542
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Speaker 1: out and they got the top two running backs. Yeah,

543
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: he ain't gonna be there. Yeah, the Saints travisydnbing.

544
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Speaker 2: All good, annoying what he was able to do in Jacksonville,

545
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 2: it's a big loss. Like he's a nice combo player,

546
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Speaker 2: he's kind of crafty and sneaky with his production as

547
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Speaker 2: a receiver and runner. In New Orleans, thinking about Kellen Moore,

548
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Speaker 2: what Kellen Moore is traditionally done with the running backs,

549
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Speaker 2: he should be a great fit. And I know they're

550
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Speaker 2: talking about Alvin Kamar petitionally retiring. If that happens or

551
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Speaker 2: if it doesn't happen, I think what they've done is

552
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Speaker 2: they've set the young quarterback up for success because the

553
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Speaker 2: person in the.

554
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Speaker 1: Backfield can't command and hold a lot of that weight

555
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Speaker 1: on his own. Let me ask you this question. I

556
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Speaker 1: was kicking around this idea I mentioned it with Minnesota

557
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Speaker 1: potentially trying to maybe move up for Jeremiah Love. They're

558
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Speaker 1: picking eighteen. The reason why I identified seven as the spot,

559
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Speaker 1: I think even with the presence of the running backs

560
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 1: that they've signed, I think in New Orleans and Kansas City,

561
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Speaker 1: even signing nobody, they're not going to pass on on Love.

562
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: So of these other teams I think have some real

563
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: pressing needs at all along the offensive line and some

564
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: other spots where you could see maybe he gets through.

565
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, let's say there's a thirty percent chance

566
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Speaker 1: that Love gets to Washington at seven. Washington could very

567
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: well take him, but Washington does not have a second

568
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: round pick, they don't have a fourth round pick. So

569
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Speaker 1: and this is the Washington team that needs to continue

570
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Speaker 1: to fill out their roster because they didn't have a

571
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Speaker 1: lot of guys they kept before Adam Peters got there.

572
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Speaker 1: They kind of turned over that roster the one year

573
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Speaker 1: deal veteran situation, so they're still playing catchup roster wise,

574
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Speaker 1: So having more picks would be beneficial to them. So

575
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Speaker 1: if I'm identifying them as a trade spot, and then

576
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Speaker 1: I go, Okay, well, if we view the running back

577
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: as the finishing piece. So you've got a team that's

578
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: ready to win. Now, that would be a team that

579
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Speaker 1: would be motivated to go be aggressive, go get Love

580
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: because you can drop him in and his first year

581
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: you can win the super Bowl. Every year that he

582
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: has on that first contract is going to be maximized.

583
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: So I was looking at teams in Minnesota. Jumped out

584
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: to me because they've got they've got an extra third,

585
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: I believe right, So they have a one, two threes,

586
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 1: then you get five, six, two seven, so you got

587
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: extra pick there in the third round. So I'd have

588
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 1: to look at the trade sharp. I was fooling around

589
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Speaker 1: with it. I was like, okay, well they could trade

590
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, their pick eighteen, their second and a third

591
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: this year, so then you still have a third and

592
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Speaker 1: then maybe it's at the high end. It was it

593
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Speaker 1: a two next year or three next year, but I

594
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Speaker 1: don't think it would. I think you could do without

595
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Speaker 1: partner with the first round picking twenty seven is what

596
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm getting at, and you would turn around picking the

597
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: third round this year. It's like you don't you know,

598
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: miss all of Day two And I'm like, man, if

599
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: you went out and got Kyler Murray and then all

600
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now you put Jeremiah Love in that offense,

601
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,479
Speaker 1: like that could be a lot of fun. So then

602
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: I started looking at the rest of these teams and

603
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Okay, well, if Washington was that spot, who

604
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: behind them is very very close, that could look to

605
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: make that type of a move. And I'm like, well, Cincinnati,

606
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: but that's not really there, that's not really their style. Right.

607
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: How about how about the Rams finish off the off

608
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: season of aggression after they've traded for McDuffie and signed

609
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: him as the most expensive quarterback in the NFL. To

610
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: get from thirteen to seven would seem to be very reasonable.

611
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: And you take that offense with those weapons and no

612
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: offense to Karen Williams is a nice player. This is

613
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: a whole different animal. They did go to the same school.

614
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: They have that in common. That might be where it ends.

615
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: That might be right where it ends. Wow, that would

616
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: be major.

617
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 2: Gosh, how about Blake Horn Karen Williams and then saying, yeah,

618
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: let's move us out of this.

619
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Speaker 1: Those are nice players, good little good players. Now they're

620
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: not Jeremiah Love. Okay, listen, he saw it with Gurley

621
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: like he saw like that offense, and I know they've

622
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 1: they've done different things with it, and they've morphed, But

623
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Speaker 1: you got to think that mcveigh's going. Man. Man, give

624
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: me what if I got like a Gurly type in

625
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: his prime and I could run him with Matthew Stafford.

626
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: I've never been able to put those two things together.

627
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: Now he hasn't because before he had to have TDD

628
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: Gurley to potend a little bit to prop up the quarterback,

629
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Speaker 2: and now he has Matthew Stafford the proper running back.

630
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 2: But you never had two guys that could stand on

631
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: their own and be what I would say superstar talents

632
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: and their own respective right. Jeremiah Love would give them

633
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: something that they don't have, and that is the ability

634
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 2: to score from anyone on the field with a handle.

635
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 2: I mean, he has big time juice, the explosiveness. We

636
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: saw him not only on tape for two years put

637
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: the ball in the pay from everywhere, but just watching

638
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: his workout, he is unbelievable when it comes to that.

639
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: So I dig it, I think it would be fantastic

640
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: to see them put it together.

641
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: I just can't see it happening. I just think he goes.

642
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: I think Jeremy Love is going off the board much

643
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: sooner than people think. I know, but then I just

644
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: try and say, okay, well, where's he going, you know,

645
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: if we're using the finishing piece argument, right, So, and

646
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: the Giants Staekwon Barkley has been kind of a litmus

647
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: test for that. Right you saw him with the Giants.

648
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: He's obviously a great player, but it didn't it didn't.

649
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: It didn't always show because he wasn't ready for me.

650
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: He goes to the Eagles two thousand yards, they win

651
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So when I'm looking at it and

652
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm going, okay, well, the Raiders taking a quarterback, The

653
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: Jets are not close, the Cardinals are not close Tennessee.

654
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: I can start making that argument there to give them

655
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: a weapon, but I still think they're a year or

656
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: two away from being able to really, you know, crank

657
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: their window. The Giants, Yeah, I mean they've got a

658
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: lot of the key pieces there. First year of Harball. Okay,

659
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: Cleveland's got backs. They got two young backs last year

660
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: that are good players. So I don't know, I don't

661
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: see like that. Just we both agree he's a lead,

662
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: elite player. But it's not like you sit there and go, oh,

663
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: they are for sure taking them with this team is

664
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Speaker 1: for sure taking them. I can't say that. No, no, no,

665
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Speaker 1: I mean I understand.

666
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: And this is one of the debates that you have to

667
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: have when when people discuss running back, is your team

668
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 2: ready for the running back to take you to the

669
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: next level. I think the reasonable spots would be before

670
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: and then after that DJ there is a bit of

671
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: a window where where does he go. You talk about

672
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: Washington at seven Kansas City, and I don't.

673
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: Think he gets by seven. Like I think either Washington

674
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: takes him at seven or somebody would have jump, stand,

675
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: maneuver end of there. Yeah, but it's an interesting little

676
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: side piece there. I was just trying to think of, like,

677
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: this draft needs a little sizzle and a little little

678
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: something to it, and maybe that could be it. That

679
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: could be you know, one of those teams trying to

680
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: make that push.

681
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: Look, I think all of these things and this is

682
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: why we talked about the combine. Then you go right

683
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 2: to free agency and just how people look at the draft.

684
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: I mean look at the combine and think about the draft,

685
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: and they think about free agency like, ah, okay, combine, Yeah,

686
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: we we thought we had a chance we don't have

687
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: a chance. We're gonna have to go elsewhere to get

688
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: some of the shopping done, and we'll see some more

689
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: of these moves continue to impact the way people build

690
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: out their friendships.

691
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: The other thing I would say is, and I don't

692
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: know who that player would be, because there's a lot

693
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: of good defensive players to go along with the running back.

694
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: But the Jets, you know, they've accumulated so many assets

695
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: and the next year, three first round picks in twenty seven.

696
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: Can you see them just saying, hey, we want more,

697
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: like we'll go from two to we'll drop from two

698
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: to wherever we need to drop and and just we'll

699
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: lock down twenty seven, you know what I mean. Mean

700
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: they can be set up in a premier draft to

701
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: have a boatload of picks if they were able to

702
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: do that. I don't know if anybody will move up

703
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: to two though. Yeah, to to is rich, lofty and less.

704
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: You gotta be target. You gotta be targeting one of

705
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: those past rushes, right, Yeah, it'll be target. Yeah. Well,

706
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: another thing is the other thing that Jets. Do you

707
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: think that they were embarrassed by the defense at all?

708
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: Last year they went out and brought nine million veterans

709
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: and free agency to try and solve and a lot

710
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: of short term deals. Tomorrow Davis gets a three year

711
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: on your model, one year ten and a half in

712
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: Agbari one year ten, get over, Minka, they give him

713
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: a three year deal. Joseph Asai. I mean they've they

714
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: have brought in a lot of dudes. I think that again.

715
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: It was embarrassing last year. No picks. That can't happen. Yeah, no,

716
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: it just it just wasn't good man. It's just bad.

717
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: And they have to find a way to be much

718
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: better on that side of the ball. And with Aaron

719
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: Land taking over as defensive coordinator, play caller, they have

720
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: to give him the firepower.

721
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Minka Fitspatgi coming over to Mario Davis coming over.

722
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: Someone did East Coast and Ben with during his time

723
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: at the New Orleans Saints. Some of this is also

724
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: driving the culture a different way. We'll see what it

725
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: turns out. Yeah, I'll be interesting. A couple more things

726
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: here to rip through. The Bears trying to fix their defense.

727
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant comes over at safety from the Seahawks three

728
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: for forty. Devin Bush had a great year last year

729
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: three for thirty Neville Gallimore DT two for ten, So

730
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: they got after it on the defensive side of the

731
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,479
Speaker 2: ball the Bucks. This one was interesting to me. Kenneth

732
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: Gainwell coming over, who's was great last year for the Steelers,

733
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: was awesome. But with him and Bucky irving Field very

734
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: similar to me as players, like they.

735
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: They are, Yeah, they are the same.

736
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: Like you have two change of pace types, two scatbacks

737
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: unless run split backs and kind of go old school. Yeah,

738
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: it is weird that you would have Normally you have

739
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: a contrast in the position, you know, a bigger back,

740
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: scat back speed and power.

741
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: It's odd to have two that are ver very similar. Yeah.

742
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: A bunch of tight ends got signed up around the

743
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: league too, so I thought that was interesting. Texans they

744
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: keep at Ingram guard three years thirty seven million. The

745
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: Bills they had kept Connor McGovern their center after losing

746
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: their guard David Edwards, and they brought in the offered

747
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: a corner for three for twenty one. The Lions bringing

748
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: a guard cade may are a center three for twenty

749
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: five after losing their center. So those are some of

750
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: the moves that we saw there. Any other big picture

751
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: takeaways here from the day just.

752
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: The money coming fast and furious off the boards. Alec

753
00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: Pierce getting pay paid six million. I mean, but DJ,

754
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: when you average twenty yards per catch in a contract year,

755
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: you're going to get paid.

756
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: Cincinnati team, man, that Cincinnati team had him him, Sauce Gardener, whatever,

757
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: Ivan Pace, Kobe Bryant, Keby Bryant. Although the safety from

758
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs who just got Bran Cook, Bran Cook Cook.

759
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 1: There's a reason that team was in the playoff, man.

760
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: That's why they were a playoff team. They have really

761
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: really good players and market. Yeah, Marcus, even those guys

762
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: have done a really good job getting them.

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Speaker 1: Up and going.

764
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, very talented defense and uh and well, I don't

765
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: talent defense.

766
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 1: Talented team. Alec Pierce one hundred million dollar man, Good

767
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: for him. Good for him. Man, make some big plays

768
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: and get yourself paid. As we're recording, they still wait.

769
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: Non Trey Hendricks and Devin Lloyd, Rashid Walker among some

770
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: other guys. So more deals you probably have I've already

771
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: heard have gone through since we posted this thing, But

772
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: we'll be back later in the week kind of recap

773
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: what else we saw. But that's that's where we are

774
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: right now. It was frenzied. We enjoyed it. We want

775
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: to put this a little post game for you here

776
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: on day one. Hope you guys enjoyed it. See you

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00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: next time right here on. Move the sticks, yeah h