WEBVTT - Why is Ray getting ghosted, and is she a lunatic?

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<v Speaker 1>First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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<v Speaker 1>online at Advocatesla dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Ray is on the phone today for a first date

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<v Speaker 2>follow up and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Cassie.

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<v Speaker 2>So in a few minutes we'll call her and see

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<v Speaker 2>if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>get him a second date. But first, Ray, how long

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<v Speaker 2>has it been since you heard from Cassie?

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<v Speaker 3>This has been like a week?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, not a week.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that sounds about right. It's a sweet spot for

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<v Speaker 5>getting ghosted. I know that sucks. Have you reached out

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<v Speaker 5>to her?

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<v Speaker 6>I have, just not like obsessively, but just like a text,

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<v Speaker 6>phone call and no answer. We'll tell us about the date, Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>there's a little bit to take in.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'll just try to explain as best as I can.

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<v Speaker 6>So, yeah, So Cassie and I went to this low

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<v Speaker 6>key neighborhood bar and grill and it was trivia night,

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<v Speaker 6>which is, you know, we weren't expecting it was actually

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<v Speaker 6>really competitive, and we weren't expecting that though. I guess,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I could just say we sucked with spirit

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<v Speaker 6>and we named our we actually named our team quiz

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<v Speaker 6>tima aguilera.

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<v Speaker 3>She was awesome.

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<v Speaker 6>She came up with it, and we were really really terrible,

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<v Speaker 6>and but we made fun of ourselves like the whole time,

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<v Speaker 6>and and it was all honestly.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 6>So, you know, we shared we shared fries, we had drinks,

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<v Speaker 6>and she was really easy to talk to, uh, funny,

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<v Speaker 6>super smart and and honestly, I was like, whoa, this

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<v Speaker 6>is really going great. And so we decided to just

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<v Speaker 6>get out of there and go to my place.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Trivia will bond to people very clear, definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And so here's the you know the problem is that

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<v Speaker 6>when we walked out to my car, uh, on my

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<v Speaker 6>driver's side door, the words cheater was spray painted across

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<v Speaker 6>the door.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay have you lately? Are you a cheater? I?

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<v Speaker 6>No, I'm not, just like Also, also the windshield was cracked,

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<v Speaker 6>so yeah, Cassie was obviously freaked out.

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<v Speaker 3>And then she was like, dude, should I be here

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<v Speaker 3>right now?

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<v Speaker 6>And and I told her that's just my ex, which

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<v Speaker 6>is I'm telling you guys, it's just my ex's like really,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm single, literally single. We broke up a while ago,

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<v Speaker 6>and she's just been having a really hard time letting

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<v Speaker 6>letting go.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait, so it wasn't a fluke Ray, this was like

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<v Speaker 5>your car was the target.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's why. And I didn't feed on her.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just like she just kind of thinks if I

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<v Speaker 6>talk to anybody new, it's I'm cheating.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh damn. Wow, Okay that sucks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Honestly, I didn't want the end the night to

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<v Speaker 3>end like.

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<v Speaker 6>That, so I told her, you know, please, let's do

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<v Speaker 6>it do over and I'll deal with crazy and we'll

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<v Speaker 6>pick out where were left off. And I got her

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<v Speaker 6>an uber and she was cool about it.

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<v Speaker 3>She even thanked me. She's like wow.

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<v Speaker 6>She jokingly was like, hey damn, I'm getting like the

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<v Speaker 6>deluxe package, and but she was like.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of shook.

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<v Speaker 6>I saw that she was kind of shook.

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<v Speaker 4>So oh yeah, yeah, this is definitely why you're getting go.

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<v Speaker 4>How did everything end?

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<v Speaker 2>Inn?

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<v Speaker 4>After that?

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<v Speaker 6>I just we we really connected and I and I've

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<v Speaker 6>had it in days before and you know whatever, but

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<v Speaker 6>this one felt really real and I felt like she

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<v Speaker 6>really saw me, and we were making dumb trivia jokes

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<v Speaker 6>a whole night.

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<v Speaker 3>And anyways, it ended.

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<v Speaker 6>Like she just went home basically, and then obviously it

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<v Speaker 6>has to be the bandle thing, and it's not a great.

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<v Speaker 3>Look for me.

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<v Speaker 6>And she saw like she saw that I was embarrassed

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<v Speaker 6>and I was pissed, and I thought she understood, but

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<v Speaker 6>she even teased me and she said, your ex needs

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<v Speaker 6>like therapy and a color coloring book, and uh so

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<v Speaker 6>that's yeah, oh wow.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, maybe it isn't the X thing, But is

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<v Speaker 7>there anything else that happened on the date that could.

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<v Speaker 4>A girl that is the kind of drama nobody? I know.

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<v Speaker 5>I know it's very but if I'm on a date

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<v Speaker 5>with somebody in their cars vandalized by their ex, the

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<v Speaker 5>last thing I'm gonna do is want to see them

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<v Speaker 5>again until I know she's gone. Yeah, all right, and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry it sounded like it was good up until that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we probably know why you were getting ghosted. Then

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<v Speaker 2>let's see if we can get you another date, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>deem yourself. Yeah, we'll play a song Comeback Caller and

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<v Speaker 2>see if that is in fact the reason, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see if we can get you a second date.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, that would be awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, We'll get your first a follow up, next.

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<v Speaker 1>First date follow Up Powered by the advocates injury attorneys.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm right in the middle of today's first day follow up,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you're just joining us, Ray is on the

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<v Speaker 2>phone and he's getting ghosted by Cassie. So we're about

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<v Speaker 2>to call her and see if she'll tell us why

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<v Speaker 2>she's ghosting him, even though we think we already know.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried to get him a second date. But first, Ray,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't you break down what happened on your day

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<v Speaker 2>real quick?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we went to an alphain bar like trivia night.

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<v Speaker 6>We were really bad at it, but we laughed the

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<v Speaker 6>whole way through, and then kind of went outside and

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<v Speaker 6>found the words Cheeter written on my car and like

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<v Speaker 6>whinshields smashed and that's my ex. I didn't cheat on her,

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<v Speaker 6>but that kind of ruined the night. It's just my

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<v Speaker 6>ex is not getting over our long time ago relationships,

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<v Speaker 6>So not too long ago, but just long enough you

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<v Speaker 6>know where she should have been over it. And so

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<v Speaker 6>now seeing if you have a do over with this date,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, start fresh.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, are you ready for us to call her?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that would be great.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll try to talk, try to see who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's a different reason, Maybe you know maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it had someone in your shirt.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, probably not though. Are you ready?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here we go. Hell, hi, man, I speak to Cassie. Please, Yes, Cassie,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you? This is the Jewbil Show. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>radio show.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Hi, Cassie. I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria and my

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<v Speaker 4>name is Jubell. How are you. How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Him, I think I'm good.

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<v Speaker 4>Great. Have you ever listened to the show before?

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<v Speaker 5>I have? Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Sweet?

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what, Cassie, we got an email about you from

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that you're ghosting. Yeah, you know the first day

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<v Speaker 2>follow up where if you're ghosting someone, they can email

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<v Speaker 2>us to get you on the phone and ask why

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<v Speaker 2>you're ghosting them.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So is there anybody that you're currently ghosting?

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<v Speaker 3>I can think of the name. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, I can say, yeah, we probably know we're probably

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the same person.

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<v Speaker 6>That is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Ray?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? It is Ray? And Ray emailed us because he

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<v Speaker 2>really liked you. He told us about your date and

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<v Speaker 2>we think we know why you're ghosting him, but we're

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<v Speaker 2>not sure.

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<v Speaker 4>So do you mind telling us why you're ghosting him?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 7>Look, the date with Ray was really amazing. Honestly, hadn't

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<v Speaker 7>laughed like that in a while, but he probably filed

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<v Speaker 7>you in. And then on what happened with his X

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<v Speaker 7>and I'm really freaked out by it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he said that you got back to his place

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<v Speaker 2>and like his car was vandalized and it said that's cheater.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we walk out and his ex has spray painted

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<v Speaker 7>cheater on his car, which already feels makes me feel like, first,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know, like I'm in some wrom calm, like

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<v Speaker 7>maybe he maybe I'm the other woman on this date

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<v Speaker 7>and he has a whole girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 3>And then and you know.

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<v Speaker 7>I tried to play it off because I could tell

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<v Speaker 7>he was really embarrassed, and he kind of filled me

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<v Speaker 7>on the situation a bit. But then I started getting

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<v Speaker 7>phone calls. I don't normally pick up I not normally.

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<v Speaker 3>Pick up numbers.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know, but they just kept calling and it

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<v Speaker 7>was her, right, That's what's so freaky. I'm like, are

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<v Speaker 7>you about to find out my address to? Somehow she

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<v Speaker 7>got my number and knew my name, called me a

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<v Speaker 7>flat told me to stay away from her. Man sent

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<v Speaker 7>me then sent me a message saying she's pregnant. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>like sent me a whole sonogram, started tagging me in

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<v Speaker 7>weird stories online.

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<v Speaker 4>This is crazy.

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<v Speaker 7>Obviously, I've blocked her. I blocked her Instagram, I blocked

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<v Speaker 7>her phone number. Honestly, I've blocked Ray too, because this

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<v Speaker 7>is all a whole lot of complicated for somebody I

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<v Speaker 7>just met. I don't need that kind of drama. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't need to be dragged into this mess. Like I

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<v Speaker 7>it sucked. I really did enjoy our date, but this

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<v Speaker 7>is too much for day one.

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<v Speaker 4>Is she really pregnant?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Cassie raised on the phone, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're listening.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, Cassie, I didn't know she called you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 7>She said she said that you knocked her up and

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<v Speaker 7>then completely ghosted her. And you didn't bring any of

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<v Speaker 7>that up when we're standing outside of yours.

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<v Speaker 6>Cassie, she's not and you guys, she's not. She's not pregnant,

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<v Speaker 6>I swear, and she she literally is not in my life.

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<v Speaker 6>She's just like I said, she hasn't let go and

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<v Speaker 6>I've been like very nice to her, and I just

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<v Speaker 6>I had no idea if she reached out to you.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm so sorry, Like.

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<v Speaker 7>I just think you might need to be putting your

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<v Speaker 7>foot down because this nice thing isn't working.

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<v Speaker 4>M M.

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<v Speaker 7>I feel like you need to set a boundary with

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<v Speaker 7>her of like we are over, you're in my past.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop grasping.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't mean for you to be cooler than any

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<v Speaker 6>of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I was just being nice, like a normal dude.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't want to, didn't. I did say these things

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<v Speaker 3>to her.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you still talk to her right after you guys

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<v Speaker 4>broke up? Do you like? I don't know, just you

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<v Speaker 4>have some kind of hope that you're going to come

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<v Speaker 4>back to her.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I just I was just trying to keep it normal.

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<v Speaker 7>Spray paint and broken glass and smashed up cars isn't normal.

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<v Speaker 7>I've never seen something like that in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>I hotly make a light of this. I'm just I guess.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm unforgettable, you know, And you don't want to.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not his fault.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nice. It's not it, but it's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Cassie, would you like to go on another day

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<v Speaker 2>with Ray? Will pay for it?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank God?

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<v Speaker 6>For real.

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<v Speaker 3>I will not mess this up. I'll like, I'll shut

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<v Speaker 3>it all down.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll make sure.

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<v Speaker 3>She's out of my life completely.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, I'll go as far as like even getting a

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<v Speaker 6>restraining order, Like, I just want you to know, Cassie,

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<v Speaker 6>I had such.

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<v Speaker 3>An amazing time. You're beautiful, year, you make me laugh.

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<v Speaker 6>I've been on many dates before, and this is this

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<v Speaker 6>felt very special for me, and I'm literally like, so sorry,

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<v Speaker 6>what do you.

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<v Speaker 4>Think, Cassie. Don't mind, Cassie, that's no easy thing.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I really appreciate that because I really had

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of fun with you, Ray and that is

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<v Speaker 7>hard to find.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not gonna lie. This is really freaked me out.

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<v Speaker 7>And obviously I'll unblock you because that maybe it was

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<v Speaker 7>a little a little rational.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's fair. You didn't do anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 7>I just think that maybe there just needs to be

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<v Speaker 7>some time to law and maybe call me when this

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<v Speaker 7>drama's actually done.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I think that's fair.

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<v Speaker 7>She's so crazy, clearly that she's not understanding the dynamic

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<v Speaker 7>and she's not getting whether you're being too nice or not.

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<v Speaker 3>You're being perfectly farm I honestly don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I just think you need to deal with this because

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<v Speaker 7>there's not room for both of us in your life.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to see you again right, but end

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<v Speaker 3>this and then call me. So if I end this

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent, that's a yes.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>You know I'm going to the courthouse today to guess

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<v Speaker 3>there's training order.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, very romantic. Ju Will's first date fallow Up