WEBVTT - Listener Mail: Avatar State, Yip Yip!

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of

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<v Speaker 1>My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Listener Mail. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick,

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<v Speaker 1>and today we're bringing you the messages that you have

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<v Speaker 1>sent to us to start us off today. We've actually

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<v Speaker 1>got a straggler that I think was originally sent like

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<v Speaker 1>last September or October. But as we mentioned on the

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<v Speaker 1>show a few times, I think we lost some mail

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<v Speaker 1>from that period. Something happened to it. And so Caroline

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<v Speaker 1>recent this one. You want to start with this one, Rob, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do it. Okay, This is from Caroline about the leshy.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember the creature of the forest in Russian mythology.

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<v Speaker 1>Caroline says, Hi, Robert and Joe, I just finished your

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<v Speaker 1>episode on the leshy. Once you described the creature, I

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<v Speaker 1>kept expecting you to bring up similarities it has with

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<v Speaker 1>the wolf in the Little Red Riding Hood tale. I

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<v Speaker 1>had never heard of creature before, but that was the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing I associated it with. You mentioned one of

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<v Speaker 1>its usual forms is that of a wolf, and that

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<v Speaker 1>it likes to lead unwary travelers off the path. Other

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the character that seemed to correspond were when

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<v Speaker 1>it disguises itself as the grandmother, there is something off,

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<v Speaker 1>and Little Red riding Hood's mother specifically warns her not

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to strangers or stray from the path. Could

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<v Speaker 1>the wolf in this tale be a version of the

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<v Speaker 1>leshy that traveled from the folk tales of Russia to

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<v Speaker 1>the folk tales of Germany. Regardless, from now on, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to think of the wolf from that tale as

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<v Speaker 1>a leshy in disguise. It makes a lot more sense

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<v Speaker 1>as a lushy than as a random wolf interested in

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<v Speaker 1>a quick two course dinner. Caroline, Well, Caroline, this is

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting idea. I don't know if it would go

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<v Speaker 1>exactly as as direct a line as that, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>have leshy and then that turns into the wolf in

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<v Speaker 1>Little Red riding Hood. But I can absolutely uh see

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<v Speaker 1>that this could come out of similar uh sort of

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<v Speaker 1>myth or folk tale archetypes that are kind of banging

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<v Speaker 1>around throughout folk tales of of of the whole world. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>because I remember reading in the past that the Little

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<v Speaker 1>Red riding Hood folk tale is thought too is thought

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<v Speaker 1>to sort of be influenced by myth themes or bits

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<v Speaker 1>of stories and story elements that you find all throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the world, You find all throughout the folk tales of

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<v Speaker 1>ancient Europe, in North Africa, even in Asia. Um, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's uh yeah, so it it seems to be one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things that's kind of a stew of different

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<v Speaker 1>elements that you can find in bits and pieces for

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<v Speaker 1>myths going way way back. Yeah. I mean Robert Frost

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<v Speaker 1>was right about one thing. The woods are deep and

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<v Speaker 1>they are dark, and uh, you know that has a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things have crept out of that imagined darkness

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<v Speaker 1>in human myth making and legend over over time. So

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they these two creatures, even if there's

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<v Speaker 1>not any real connective tissue, they both emerge from that darkness. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I seem to recall that I don't know if this

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<v Speaker 1>is actually a legitimate connection, but I seem to recall

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<v Speaker 1>there's some kind of idea that there's like a very

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<v Speaker 1>ancient myth archetype about like a fire maiden, like a

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<v Speaker 1>young woman or girl who is somehow associated with with

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<v Speaker 1>fire or redness in a way, who is attacked by

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<v Speaker 1>a wolf and then rescued by a hero of some kind.

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<v Speaker 1>And then that I think is also paired somewhat with

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<v Speaker 1>like the classic sort of restoration from the dead or

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<v Speaker 1>restoration from the belly myth part that you get in

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<v Speaker 1>the story of Jonah being swallowed by the whale and

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<v Speaker 1>then spit back out, but you can even get in

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<v Speaker 1>directly in Russian folk tales where somebody's eaten by a

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<v Speaker 1>wolf and then survives after being cut out of the belly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we got another one. This is also I

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<v Speaker 1>guess a straggler, but as we always say, stragglers are welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>This goes back to our episode on fingernails and it

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<v Speaker 1>comes from Sicily Rob. Do you want to read this one? Sure? Go.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what it says. I am a new listener

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<v Speaker 1>and I am currently listening to your two part episode

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<v Speaker 1>from September on Fingernails. I'm someone who regularly has enhanced

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<v Speaker 1>with hard gel or alic very long fingernails. Attached a

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<v Speaker 1>picture for reference. You asked for stories about living with

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<v Speaker 1>long nails, and I thought you might be interested to

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<v Speaker 1>know that tool use and knuckle use are important for success.

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<v Speaker 1>There are very few things I cannot do with long nails,

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<v Speaker 1>and mostly turn my knuckles into fingertips to do things

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<v Speaker 1>like pop soda tabs or remove contact lenses. Now that's

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<v Speaker 1>impressive as a contact where Um, yeah, I have never

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<v Speaker 1>attempted to use my knuckles to get them out. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it's possible. Wait which knuckle? Would it be? Your

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<v Speaker 1>first knuckle or second knuckle? I don't know. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>imagining all knuckles. Maybe I'm envisioning it wrong, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just imagined just going in there just like tin knuckles, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and removing the contact lenses. You know, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>a really interesting cyberpunk enhancement would be fingertips on your knuckles,

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<v Speaker 1>so you get like separate finger pads extending out from

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<v Speaker 1>I guess your your first your large knuckle. Have I

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<v Speaker 1>seen that before? I feel like I've seen something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe not cyberpunky, but something like fleshy you know. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know it rings a bell anyway, they continue.

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<v Speaker 1>Tools like tweezers can be helpful for things you might

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<v Speaker 1>use the edge of your nail for. Certain styles of

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<v Speaker 1>common objects are also more nail friendly, like a keyboard

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<v Speaker 1>with flat than keys to allow typing with fingerpads instead

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<v Speaker 1>of fingertips, though I still often use pencils with the

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<v Speaker 1>racers to type on other types of keyboards. The hardest

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<v Speaker 1>routine task I encounter is actually putting an earring back

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<v Speaker 1>onto an earring, as the nail tends to get in

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<v Speaker 1>the way of both a very small object and a

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<v Speaker 1>very specific motor movement. Oh maybe that's supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>putting an ear ring on an ear Okay, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>could see that being difficult. Uh, anyway, they continue. An

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<v Speaker 1>additional layer to note about nails is that there is

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<v Speaker 1>a tendency, at least for me to try to use

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<v Speaker 1>them as tools, but doing so will cause them to

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<v Speaker 1>break despy fortification. So much of the tool and knuckle

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<v Speaker 1>uses not because I cannot do the task with nails,

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<v Speaker 1>but rather to preserve their integrity. Lastly, I enjoyed hearing

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<v Speaker 1>the supernatural, slash scary aspects of long nails that you

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<v Speaker 1>described in your episode because I specifically like having long,

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<v Speaker 1>pointing nails that reference demonic or witchy aesthetics. I'm greatly

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying the episodes I've heard so far, and I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>to keep listening. Thanks Cecily, Well, Cecily, welcome on board.

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<v Speaker 1>We we hope you keep enjoying and thanks for sharing

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<v Speaker 1>your experience. With long nails. I'm glad to hear that

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<v Speaker 1>you are specifically trying to be demonic or witchy. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just appreciating nails the other day because I

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<v Speaker 1>was working on some miniatures, and you know, I use

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<v Speaker 1>like a little file and I use a little razor

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<v Speaker 1>blade to remove unwanted portions of the plastic. But then

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<v Speaker 1>there are times where I realize, you know, what works

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<v Speaker 1>better than either of these fine instruments, the fingernail itself.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, It's like fingernails are just so so useful

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<v Speaker 1>for fine manipulation, often in ways that we just take

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<v Speaker 1>for granted. I don't know how gross to get on

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<v Speaker 1>the show here, but I think some people would say

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<v Speaker 1>that that fingernails are sort of like perfect tools for

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<v Speaker 1>pimple popping, perfect Griny's written tools. Yeah, yeah, that that

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<v Speaker 1>that can lead to some skin infections. I've bet Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess a pimple already is a kind of skin infection,

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<v Speaker 1>right or am I right about that? I don't really know.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll have to sort that out later. Okay, Next,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got a short message about the Bondsai episode where

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about Tate's hell the Forest in Florida where

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<v Speaker 1>the dwarf cypress grow. And this is a short message

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<v Speaker 1>from Sammy. She says, Hello there, guys. I have been

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<v Speaker 1>in the Florida Panhandle my whole life, which would be

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five years. I knew not of this Tate and

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<v Speaker 1>his personal hell. That is a Florida forest, So thank

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<v Speaker 1>you guys for bringing it to my attention. I've googled

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<v Speaker 1>it and live about an hour and forty five minutes away,

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<v Speaker 1>So now I have a new place to take my

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<v Speaker 1>son camping. No, don't do it, Sammy, Uh, he will

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<v Speaker 1>have fun with the name if nothing else. Thank you, Sammy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's safety these days if you, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>have navigation devices and all that, it's more Tates heck

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<v Speaker 1>these days. This next message comes to us from Mark

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<v Speaker 1>and it is about our episode on Gold. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to read this one because Rob After this

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<v Speaker 1>there's some about Avatar the Last Airbender, and I assume

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<v Speaker 1>those are your territory. Okay, Mark says, Hi, Robert and Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>huge fan of your podcast. My favorite bits are when

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<v Speaker 1>you connect the central topic to some other esoteric piece

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<v Speaker 1>of knowledge deep in the recesses of your minds. When

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic is over, you should have a contest to

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<v Speaker 1>win lunch with Robert and Joe. I expect the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>would lead to some interesting places. Well, that's very nice

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<v Speaker 1>of you to say, Mark, but I suspect I am

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<v Speaker 1>much more boring in person. My wife and son have

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<v Speaker 1>been winning that contest every day for over a year now,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh yeah, they they would prefer to to watch

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<v Speaker 1>episodes of Avatar during during lunch. Take that for what

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth. Mark goes on. In your Gold Medal episode,

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<v Speaker 1>you talked about how gold did not have many practical

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<v Speaker 1>applications beyond its use as jewelry or coinage and then

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<v Speaker 1>later in electronics in medicine. But the studious high school

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<v Speaker 1>chemistry student in me would be remissed to forget Rutherford's

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<v Speaker 1>gold foil experiment. This is great to bring up, Uh so,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Rits. At the time of the experiment, scientists did

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<v Speaker 1>not know the structure of the atom. We know today

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<v Speaker 1>that it consists of negative electrons orbiting a positive nucleus

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<v Speaker 1>of protons and neutrons. Back then, after the electron was discovered,

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<v Speaker 1>someone theorized the quote plum pudding model, which conceived of

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<v Speaker 1>the electrons surrounded by a field of positively charged plums.

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<v Speaker 1>Rutherford's experiment was to shoot an alpha particle beam through

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<v Speaker 1>a thin piece of gold foil and see what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to the particles. The result was that the articles deflected

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<v Speaker 1>off at sharp angles, some even bouncing backwards. From this,

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<v Speaker 1>he deduced that the positive charge was not spread out

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<v Speaker 1>around the electrons, but rather packed into a tight compact

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<v Speaker 1>to nucleus. So why was gold used. Because it was

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<v Speaker 1>so soft and malleable, they could compress it into an

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<v Speaker 1>extremely thin layer. In an ideal experimental state, the foil

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<v Speaker 1>would only be one atom thick. Obviously this was not possible,

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<v Speaker 1>but they got it thin enough. Thanks for all the

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<v Speaker 1>great episodes, keep them coming, Mark. Well, thanks for pointing

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<v Speaker 1>that out, Mark, that was a great, great historic example

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<v Speaker 1>to bring up. Awesome. Yes, uh, now we're about to

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<v Speaker 1>get into some some Avatar the Last Airbender content, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think in the Gold episode we ended up talking

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<v Speaker 1>about gold bending in avatar. So if you have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what this stuff is about, I will try to

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<v Speaker 1>be your avatar in the conversation. Alright, Yeah, we we

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<v Speaker 1>received some avatar listener mail from I think three or

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<v Speaker 1>four different people, but we have two of them included here.

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<v Speaker 1>So this one comes to us from Emily, Hi, Robert,

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<v Speaker 1>and Joe. I'm a long time listener, and I am

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<v Speaker 1>very grateful for the many hours of learning and entertainment

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<v Speaker 1>you've provided me. I also love the new Weird House

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<v Speaker 1>Cinema episodes, so thank you so much for that. I

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<v Speaker 1>reached out to my avatar Legend of Corus super fan

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<v Speaker 1>friend Andy with your question about metal benders bending gold.

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<v Speaker 1>This was her response. In the scene where Kuvira crushes

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<v Speaker 1>the Kiyoshi Medal of Freedom during Prince Wu's coronation, you

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<v Speaker 1>can see from the coloring of the metal that there

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<v Speaker 1>is likely gold in it. Additionally, when looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>royal brooch, one can see it is meant to be gold,

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<v Speaker 1>which would signify that royal artifacts in the Earth Kingdom

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<v Speaker 1>have a large gold component. It would also be reasonable

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<v Speaker 1>that if metal benders are able to bend meteorites, that

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<v Speaker 1>there would be nothing stopping them easily bending a soft

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<v Speaker 1>metal such as gold. Hope, this is interesting to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep it up Emily in Vermont, Okay, Rob, can you

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<v Speaker 1>explain the context here? What's this about? Um? This was

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<v Speaker 1>So I watched this episode not too long ago when

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<v Speaker 1>we're going through, uh, the Legend of Cora, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's basically someone who has the metal bending ability they

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<v Speaker 1>crush something that has gold in it. But so so

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<v Speaker 1>so yes, that's that's a good example from the show.

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<v Speaker 1>But then we also heard from a listener named Hannah

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<v Speaker 1>and she points out something even uh even more on

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<v Speaker 1>point here. So Hannah writes in and says, I was

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<v Speaker 1>so excited when you mentioned Avatar the Last Airbender in

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<v Speaker 1>your latest episode on Gold. I'm a huge fan of

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<v Speaker 1>Avatar the Last Airbender and consider it one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most formative pieces of media in my of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I was smack dab in its target age group. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I was ten or eleven when it premiered on

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<v Speaker 1>Nickelodeon and watched every episode when it aired. I have since,

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<v Speaker 1>at various points rewatched the entire series three or more

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<v Speaker 1>times as I got older, as well as watching the

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<v Speaker 1>Legend of Cora twice and reading all the comics. Watching

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<v Speaker 1>it as a child, I just love the epic plot,

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<v Speaker 1>exciting fights, and fun humor. Coming back to it as

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<v Speaker 1>an adult, however, I'm able to appreciate how well developed

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<v Speaker 1>the characters are, and how nuanced the treatment of some

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<v Speaker 1>heavy subjects are, like war, imperialism, genocide, and grief, especially

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<v Speaker 1>how they impact children and families. I always appreciate media

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<v Speaker 1>that treats its young audiences as the intelligent beings that

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<v Speaker 1>they are and and knows that kids can handle complex

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<v Speaker 1>and challenging subjects if they're presented with enough patients. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>the real reason I wanted to write in is that

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<v Speaker 1>I think I know why we never see any Earthbenders

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<v Speaker 1>bending gold. I'm going to avoid as many spoilers as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Metal bending is invented in Avatar, the Last Airbender by

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<v Speaker 1>an extremely powerful Earthbender who realizes that because metal is

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<v Speaker 1>quote Earth that has been purified and refined, they can

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<v Speaker 1>use their unique ability to see the impurities left in

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<v Speaker 1>the metal and bend that. By the time of Avatar

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<v Speaker 1>Legend of Corau seventy years later, metal bending is a

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<v Speaker 1>technique is far more widespread in this areas. It is

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<v Speaker 1>revealed that metal benders cannot bend platinum as it is

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<v Speaker 1>too pure and there are not enough trace amounts of

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<v Speaker 1>Earth for them to detect and bend. Given the associations

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<v Speaker 1>of gold and purity. I think it would not be

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<v Speaker 1>bendable in the same way that they treat platinum in

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<v Speaker 1>the universe of the show. I cannot possibly gush enough

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<v Speaker 1>about Avatar soul In by mentioning the fun fact that

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<v Speaker 1>each bending style is inspired by different real life martial arts.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, water bending is based on tai Chi. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember as a child seeing the short behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 1>snippet during ad breaks on Nickelodeon where the martial arts

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<v Speaker 1>consultants of the show would explain why certain styles were

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<v Speaker 1>chosen with side by side comparisons between the animated scenes

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<v Speaker 1>and himself demonstrating the movements in real life. It was

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting and beautiful. Anyway, thanks so much for the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I always look forward to its showing up in my

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<v Speaker 1>feed Well. Thanks so much, Hannah. Um Okay, so this

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<v Speaker 1>this raises more questions for me. So the idea is

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<v Speaker 1>that the the the natural earth bender person in the

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<v Speaker 1>show can can manipulate earth in like a telekinetic typeways

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<v Speaker 1>that basically it um but the earth must mean something

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<v Speaker 1>than just like any solid material that comes out of

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<v Speaker 1>the ground, because of course, you know, gold and platinum

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<v Speaker 1>would be would be metals that can be found in

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<v Speaker 1>the earth. So what is the actual earth that can

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<v Speaker 1>be bent and what are the kind of impurities you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for in gold or platinum in order to bend it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean basically the main earth bound inc is just

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<v Speaker 1>like rocks, you know, like causing the rocks in the earth,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever minerals happen to be there, and using those like

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<v Speaker 1>making shields rise up, you know, throwing rocks at people

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<v Speaker 1>with it, that sort of thing. Um, And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it gets really elaborate, and later you see people using

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<v Speaker 1>like stone constructs as well. Um. But uh, yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>idea here is I guess that perhaps gold in and

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<v Speaker 1>of itself is just too pure to bend. Uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>need something with it. If you're going to bend to metal,

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<v Speaker 1>it has to have impurities and it so you're actually

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<v Speaker 1>bending the impurities, are using the impurities as kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the the you know, the the handle by which you

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<v Speaker 1>you bend the other material. In a similar way, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a variety of water bender that pops up called a

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<v Speaker 1>blood bender, where and it's you know, this is like

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<v Speaker 1>the dark side of water bending, where you can manipulate

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<v Speaker 1>a human being by bending the water in their body.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're not bending the human you're bending the water

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<v Speaker 1>in their flesh, and this is would be similar. You've

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<v Speaker 1>bend the metal by bending the impurities in the metal. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like that thing we already mentioned the scene and

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<v Speaker 1>X Men two where somebody gets injected with a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of iron and their blood and then Magneto messes with them.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, hey, if you go with the theory

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<v Speaker 1>of of of gold's origin of it being ultimately extraterrestrial

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<v Speaker 1>and nature, maybe you can you can heat that uh

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<v Speaker 1>in there as well. You know, it's like you're an

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<v Speaker 1>earth bender, not a you know, space mineral bender. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I just looked it up. I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find what are the main elemental impurities that are found

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<v Speaker 1>in high purity gold, and according to a paper by

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<v Speaker 1>dj Hinneberg called Origin and Effects of Impurities in high

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<v Speaker 1>Purity Gold in uh, the majority of the impurities in

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<v Speaker 1>gold were silver, followed by iron, copper, and lead. So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if you're trying to bend gold, you're you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>for one of those things. I mean, i'd imagine if

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<v Speaker 1>you're able to, if you're an earth bender and you

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<v Speaker 1>can move rocks around, probably one of the things you

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<v Speaker 1>can move is iron right? Yeah, yeah, I would imagine so.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, interesting interesting to think about it all into

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<v Speaker 1>sort of. It's always interesting exercise to take the world

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<v Speaker 1>of fiction and magic and then compare it with the

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<v Speaker 1>world of metallurgy and see where you go. Okay. This

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<v Speaker 1>next message comes from Sophie and it is a follow

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<v Speaker 1>up from a previous email she sent about our episodes

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<v Speaker 1>on head and brain theft. Now. In Sophie's original email,

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<v Speaker 1>she compared the repeated student prank theft of Jeremy Bentham's

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<v Speaker 1>nasty jerky head to something called the gavel goat. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know exactly what that was off off hand and

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<v Speaker 1>were forced to do some rapid googling. But she follows

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<v Speaker 1>up on that subject. So Sophie says, dear Robert and Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>all that time agonizing over sentence phrasing and making my

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<v Speaker 1>contextual sidebars easy to cut around for anecdotes shortening, and

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<v Speaker 1>not once did I think, hang on, they might not

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<v Speaker 1>know what that is. Memory is so faulty, face palm.

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<v Speaker 1>The gavel goat in Sweden, aside from seeming like a

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<v Speaker 1>lovely annual tradition, has organically gained an unasked for tradition

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<v Speaker 1>where the large goat raised for admint in Gavel, Sweden

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<v Speaker 1>gets burned down or otherwise destroyed nearly every year. She

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<v Speaker 1>attaches a couple of articles. Um, Basically, it's become an

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<v Speaker 1>embedded arms race between people trying to fireproof and protect

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<v Speaker 1>the statue while others attempt to destroy it to extreme lengths,

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<v Speaker 1>involving cameras, flaming arrows, confused foreigners. Um. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what all those references are, but she goes on the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that it's illegal vandalism does little to challenge the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that it's now an organically established socio cultural phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 1>Once it becomes a globally known thing, watched annually to

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<v Speaker 1>see what protections are added or how long it lasts,

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<v Speaker 1>it's much harder to stop. Thus, what I meant to

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<v Speaker 1>reference was the fact that if stealing Jeremy Bentham's head

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<v Speaker 1>became a routine occurrence with momentum behind it, like the

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<v Speaker 1>unintentional tradition of burning the lovely goat has, it goes

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<v Speaker 1>from an aberrant side note slash periodic problem to a

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<v Speaker 1>constant battle that begins to feel inevitable and likely one

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<v Speaker 1>that University College London wishes to avoid, unless, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Bentham had some sort of expressed wish somewhere that he

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<v Speaker 1>would like his head to be periodically stolen. That would

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<v Speaker 1>be wild. Anyways, with the opportunity to once again compliment

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<v Speaker 1>you on your work, your Friday features are the closest

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<v Speaker 1>I will ever come to being able to watch many

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<v Speaker 1>of your favorite movies, like horror films. But I get

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<v Speaker 1>to hear you talk about things with passionate enjoyment, and

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<v Speaker 1>better wrap my head around the cult important yet mystifying

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<v Speaker 1>troll to sausage Man synthetic flesh, synthetic flesh, and assure

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<v Speaker 1>you that I'm not holding my breath on a website

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<v Speaker 1>and writing this from the grave. But you can't receive

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<v Speaker 1>that for which you do not politely ask. No, pretty sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I still have my head and brain and everything. Already,

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<v Speaker 1>this looks so much longer than it felt in my head.

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<v Speaker 1>So I shall away lest I conceive more syllables. Hope

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<v Speaker 1>y'all are safe and well as that looks for you. Sophie, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say I don't think there's really a

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<v Speaker 1>cult following behind Sausage Man. No, I think that's just us.

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<v Speaker 1>Just that's that hey, and maybe the cult is growing.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we have three members of the cult. Now. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never heard anybody else really make much cult reference to

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<v Speaker 1>synthetic flesh either. Weirdly, because it seems like that should

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<v Speaker 1>inspire you think, like we're saying that should be DJ

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<v Speaker 1>should be dropping that sample um like crazy. I would think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>sinthetic flesh, sin that flesh, synthetic flesh k car um.

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<v Speaker 1>But then again, even if the even if the actual

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<v Speaker 1>phrase synthetic flesh and that and that the line from

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<v Speaker 1>the film isn't worshiped, I feel like that's the use

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<v Speaker 1>of special effects in that film definitely influenced a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people. So at least the spirit of synthetic flesh

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<v Speaker 1>has traveled far. Troll Too absolutely has its own organic

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<v Speaker 1>cult following. But I think Sausage Man is all stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to blow your mind, all right. This next one comes

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<v Speaker 1>to us from Justin. This one says, hello, Rob, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>and Seth. I've been listening for approximately five years now,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is my first time writing in. I have

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoyed the new format. I realized it takes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of effort for everyone on the stuff to blow

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<v Speaker 1>your mind team to pull together and put out quality

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<v Speaker 1>content consistently. But you really have been and continue to

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<v Speaker 1>deliver the goods each day and every day. But I

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<v Speaker 1>must insert that I was perfectly fine with how it

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<v Speaker 1>was before. As a consumer, your program has truly become

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<v Speaker 1>a five course meal. I enjoy having a listener mail

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<v Speaker 1>episode to kick the week off. It adds a real

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<v Speaker 1>time element and offers a consideration on the perceptions of

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<v Speaker 1>the audience with the topic while the topic is still

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<v Speaker 1>fresh in my mind. While many of the listeners can

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<v Speaker 1>offer expertise on subjects covered, I do not have anything

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<v Speaker 1>new or exciting to offer at this time, and that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I figure my input is just as valuable.

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<v Speaker 1>I was concerned when Invention was absorbed. Invention episodes are

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<v Speaker 1>a delight, and I'm happy to see core episodes of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff to blow your mind include Invention. I feel that

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<v Speaker 1>the Artifact episodes show if your writing skills. I would

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<v Speaker 1>say your conversational tone has been what keeps me listening,

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<v Speaker 1>and Artifact episodes might lack that tone but have the

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<v Speaker 1>same DNA incorporating curiosity and wonder all the while acknowledging

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<v Speaker 1>some topics are short and Sweet Weird House. I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking with my wife about this new portion. She mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>that it seems like this show is Taylor specifically for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I happen to love movies found off the beaten path.

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<v Speaker 1>I have often called them winners. I have a few

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<v Speaker 1>personal favorites. I would love for you to explore Redline.

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<v Speaker 1>If you only cover one animated feature, consider this film

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<v Speaker 1>Creatures Speedsters an Invasion. I've watched this movie with the

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<v Speaker 1>same group of friends several times, and I am always

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<v Speaker 1>in awe. Funky Boy Awoken on Robo World. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to explain this movie. It's like a mashup

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<v Speaker 1>of tropes and pop culture with an excellent artistic direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh dr Otto and the riddle of the gloom Beam.

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<v Speaker 1>I stumbled upon this. It plays off the zany characters

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<v Speaker 1>developed by Jim Varney, a k ernest um, a low

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<v Speaker 1>budget sci fi delight. It hits all the weird notes. Lastly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a sing of praise and admiration. You folks are

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<v Speaker 1>my travel companions and always with my spirits. You should

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<v Speaker 1>know how much your work and your integrity means to

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<v Speaker 1>me and my fellow listeners. Often your work is the

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<v Speaker 1>best part of my day. Thank you. Oh well that

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<v Speaker 1>is far too kind, justin Uh yeah, thanks for getting

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<v Speaker 1>in touch, you know. Um, yeah, we appreciate the feedback,

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<v Speaker 1>and thanks for bringing Redline to my attention. Uh. It

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<v Speaker 1>was totally off my radar, but after watching a clip,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually ordered a copy of this because it looks

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely insane. So um, I don't know yet if it's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely weird house material, but I'm looking forward to checking

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<v Speaker 1>it out on my own at the very at least.

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<v Speaker 1>As for dr Otto, I've never seen it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up watching all the Earnest movies of course, and

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<v Speaker 1>weirdly enough, I was childhood friends with director Earnest, director

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<v Speaker 1>and co creator John our Cherry the Third's nephew, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I remember distinctly he had some his nephew had

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<v Speaker 1>some art on his wall in his room. Uh that

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<v Speaker 1>had that Dutch that his uncle had drawn or painted

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<v Speaker 1>for him, and I remember it was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>weird almost kind of psychedelic art. It was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty neat. Wow. I just looked up the VHS box

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<v Speaker 1>for Doctor Otto and it is alive. Is this also?

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<v Speaker 1>So it looks like Jim Varney as Earnest on the

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<v Speaker 1>cover in like a little box, maybe just showing you like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>remember Ernest, it's this guy. But then the bigger picture

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<v Speaker 1>is I think also Jim Varney, but more in a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of psychedelic Elvis look. Uh. Yeah. He had several

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<v Speaker 1>characters that he played. You know, he did the Arnest

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<v Speaker 1>character at an old woman character, and then this gloom

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:38.440
<v Speaker 1>beam character who it was like him as some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of maniacal, you know, creature with a hand on the

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<v Speaker 1>top of his head. Um. I seem like I saw

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<v Speaker 1>saw that character pop up on some TV show or

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<v Speaker 1>another when I was a kid as well. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what he looks like a character who could fit in

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<v Speaker 1>and Phantom of the Paradise. Yeah, yeah, probably so Varney.

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<v Speaker 1>Varney was a great performer. I enjoyed him and then

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much everything I saw mostly it was Ernest films though,

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<v Speaker 1>uh and I do remember Ernest Scared Stupid as being

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<v Speaker 1>quite enjoyable, at least when I was a child. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta confess, I think I was scared by that movie

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<v Speaker 1>like it had that was it had some legitimately scary

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 1>stuff in it. As I recall, it's been a long time,

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:18.159
<v Speaker 1>but there's some sort of troll creature that is a

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<v Speaker 1>central threat is like legitimately a bit scary. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that it could turn people into wood by looking at them,

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<v Speaker 1>and that prospect scared me. I did not want to

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<v Speaker 1>be turned into wood. Yeah, it delivered more horror than

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<v Speaker 1>an earnest film, uh had to, you know, but I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it was you know, for a for creators like

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<v Speaker 1>that was probably you know, one of the things. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna make just a whole bunch of earnest

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>movies in your career, when you do a Halloween, when like,

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:47.080
<v Speaker 1>that's your excuse to let let loose and fit in

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<v Speaker 1>as much like horror stuff as you possibly can. So

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<v Speaker 1>I applaud them for that. Okay, now we got some

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<v Speaker 1>straight up weird how cinema messages. So this first one

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<v Speaker 1>comes from Brenda. Brenda says, hello, just listen to your

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 1>ghost in the Machine episode. I remember that was the

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:12.159
<v Speaker 1>nineties cyber panic one that was like the haunted computer movie.

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>And Brenda says, was wondering if Johnnynemonic from nineteen nine

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<v Speaker 1>would be a movie you would consider for weird house cinema.

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:23.120
<v Speaker 1>It's based on William Gibson's story with the cast including

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<v Speaker 1>Keanu Reeves, Dolf Lundgren, Ice Tea and Henry Rollins. And

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<v Speaker 1>don't forget the Yakuza uh a must at the time

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:37.399
<v Speaker 1>for futuristic cyberpunk and Jones a military trained dolphin and

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 1>it's set in one Thank You and stay well. Saying

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 1>be well is a little too demolition man Brenda. Well,

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've I've never seen Johnny Nemonic. Um so

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:52.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm well well aware of it. I mean it was

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<v Speaker 1>based on a William Gibson short story, as I recall,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it's loaded with with fun performers, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, maybe we'll check it out. We had it's

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 1>a it takes place this year, so this would be

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 1>the year to do it, I guess. So. Oh and

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<v Speaker 1>then by serendipity, right around the same time, might maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even the same day. We got another note from a

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<v Speaker 1>listener about Johnnynemonic. This one was from Chris. Chris says, hi,

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<v Speaker 1>Robin Joe queued up quite the interesting film this evening

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<v Speaker 1>on Prime. I'm a big keyan New Reeves fan but

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<v Speaker 1>had never seen Johnnynemonic. Not sure if it's weird enough,

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's quite interesting as there is a strange and

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:36.639
<v Speaker 1>nineties mashup of technology. There was talk of sending facts

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>is having a brain capacity of three and twenty gigabytes,

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>and some sort of device that looks like a mini

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 1>CD player remember those. There is a wild device that

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 1>looks sort of like a laser floss that can cut

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<v Speaker 1>through anything. There's a cut scene of a concord jet landing.

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Dina Meyer, who plays uh I guess a character named

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<v Speaker 1>Jane has a quite manic energy during some moment. Oh

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and Dolph Lundgren is in this movie. There's a dolphin

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 1>that can scan sound waves and Kiano refers to it

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 1>as a fish. To be honest, I feel bad for

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>the dolphin. Iced Tea shows up as a character. Well,

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>it's really something else best Chris, Well, there you go.

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean it sounds like we should probably add it

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<v Speaker 1>to the list. I've got enough people asking for it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and one last thing. Chris also wrote to us,

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<v Speaker 1>like right around the same time to say that they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to watch Boggy Creek two, and they said,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for always expanding my horizons. That's what That's

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>what Boggy Creek two does, expands horizons. It's about learning,

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 1>all right, here's another one that one comes to us

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 1>from Wonko Wonco writes in and says, hello, Robert and Joe.

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I was getting caught up on this week's cast and

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<v Speaker 1>listening to Weirdout Cinema episode on Demon Night, I was

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>struck with inspiration to write in. You mentioned that each

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<v Speaker 1>successive Chosen One adds their blood the key and possibly

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 1>dilutes the blood of Christ in the process. But many

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<v Speaker 1>Christian faiths believe that when normal water is added to

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>holy water, then it too becomes holy. Perhaps the chosen

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<v Speaker 1>One's blood is similarly transubstantiated when added. Thank you for everything,

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Wonko Odd, this is very good point. Yeah. So like

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<v Speaker 1>the thing in the movies that Billy's aane, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to pour all of the christ blood out

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 1>of this bottle key thing. It's the mcguffin in the movie. Uh.

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 1>And somehow the Chosen Ones, which originally is William Sadler,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who's doing like naked martial arts in his

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<v Speaker 1>hotel room and die hard to uh and then later

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Jada Pinkett, Uh, they put their blood in there and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess that somehow mixes with the blood of

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<v Speaker 1>Christ and yeah, it does some kind of magic. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is a good point though. I wonder if like

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<v Speaker 1>by that logic, if the holy thing always like spreads

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 1>its holiness basically infinitely, by almost the principle of like

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>homeopathic medicine, you know, the things can just be like

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>infinitely diluted. If it works like that, why couldn't you

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<v Speaker 1>just like pour a drop of holy water into the

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 1>ocean and then make all the water on earth holy

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>m I don't know, because it eventually runs into uh fish,

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Um, would that not have the with

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 1>would the holy water not have the power to overcome

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the p the p enos um? I don't know, or

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe any animal that's not specifically mentioned in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>If the holy water encounters it's your and then it stops,

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Um, maybe there's a range of effect.

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like dungeons and dragons. We'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>look at the spell, the exact text of the spell,

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 1>and go by that. You know. This raises a good issue.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just wondering about about the similarities between dungeons

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>and dragons and constitutional law, and that could could you

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>have like similar philosophy styles like are there dungeons and Dragons,

0:31:55.480 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>strict constructionists versus original intent versus like living doc meant

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess you know, as I guess that the thing

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:04.719
<v Speaker 1>is in Dungeon and Dragons, you always have that dungeon

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<v Speaker 1>master that their their word is the final word. I

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 1>guess that also has theological connections, right, Like that's the

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>debate between solo script tour of versus like does the

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 1>church have a say yeah, yeah, I mean all the Ultimately,

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the bottom line is ask your dungeon master, because they

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 1>are they are the divine will on earth. They are

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<v Speaker 1>your pope. Alright. This next message comes from Dan, and

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<v Speaker 1>it is also about Tales from the Crypt Demon Night.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan says, and this is a this is a Crypt

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<v Speaker 1>Keeper reference. So I'll try to do the voice. Hello, kitties.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's pretty good, was it okay? Uh? Dan says,

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Hello kitties. I'm writing in regarding your weird House cinema

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<v Speaker 1>episode on Demon Night. I never knew that it was

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<v Speaker 1>a feature film that played in theaters and always thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was a made for TV movie due to the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that it was the Tales from the Crypt production.

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>And I first watched it on HBO back in the

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<v Speaker 1>late nineties. Personally, I thought the title never really fit,

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<v Speaker 1>as Billy Zane is less a night and more like

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<v Speaker 1>a drifter or hitchhiker. It is, it is a movie

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 1>with with a very high drifter quotitioned Dan goes on. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed it. I'm glad that you decided to cover

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<v Speaker 1>Demon Knight and not Bordello of Blood because that movie,

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<v Speaker 1>even by late nineties horror standards, is terrible. Why would

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<v Speaker 1>anyone ever cast Dennis Miller as the snarky protagonist in

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<v Speaker 1>a horror movie? Quick fun factor Regarding Demon Knight, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember watching an interview somewhere with Jordan Peel who was

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<v Speaker 1>asked his favorite final girl and he said it was

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<v Speaker 1>Jada Pinkett and Demon Knight. Loving the Weird House Cinema episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Favorite Dick Miller rolls are in The Howling Gremlins and

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<v Speaker 1>Terminator Dan Oh, Dan, Well, this was a great bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and somehow this fact about Jordan Peel seemed familiar to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't sure if we had mentioned it in the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>but I assume not a uh, since you brought it

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<v Speaker 1>up in the email here, So so I looked this up.

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<v Speaker 1>I found the actual video. It's apparently an interview with

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<v Speaker 1>The Wall Street Journal, which seems like a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>strange venue for Jordan Peel to discuss his thoughts about

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 1>horror as a genre. But it was a good interview

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:20.879
<v Speaker 1>where they're asking some kind of quick direct questions about

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<v Speaker 1>like his favorite examples of things in horror, and he

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 1>was giving his answers, and uh, there are some write

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<v Speaker 1>ups you can find on the internet, like articles that

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 1>summarize it, but I just wanted to talk about a

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 1>few of the things, he says. Oh, and by the way,

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I guess I should should just say yeah, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>big Jordan Peel fan. I love Key and Peel. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite uh comedy shows of recent years.

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:44.320
<v Speaker 1>And Jordan Peel's horror movies are really good. Absolutely, But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>on the subject of horror, he talks about how the

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<v Speaker 1>first movie that scared him was The Fly, and he

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<v Speaker 1>says that it scared him because he watched it in

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:55.359
<v Speaker 1>an age that was really inappropriate. He's I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the David Cronenberg Fly, not not the one

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 1>with Vincent Price. And so I would mess you up

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<v Speaker 1>that I would mess yet not a movie for kids

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<v Speaker 1>to see. I don't know who should see that. I mean,

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 1>like I respect that movie, but uh yeah, fun for

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 1>no ages. Yeah, that's like with me. I saw RoboCop

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:14.840
<v Speaker 1>way too early and it's just like, oh my god,

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 1>really really did off more than I could chew with that.

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 1>But he also talked about a thing with reference to

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<v Speaker 1>The Fly. That's something I definitely feel. He says, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>part of what's good about horror is that, like he said,

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 1>he watched The Fly and it really messed him up,

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<v Speaker 1>like it scared him, but then once it was over,

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<v Speaker 1>he got through it and he was less scared because

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<v Speaker 1>he'd made it to the end. And it does give

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<v Speaker 1>you a kind of feeling of mental fortification to like

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<v Speaker 1>make it through a simulated scary experience in a horror

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>movie and then you come out the other end safe. Yeah.

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 1>But he also talks about how his favorite musical score

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<v Speaker 1>from a horror movie is not Mere on ELM Street.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a good choice. Yeah, I don't remember

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 1>it at all. I would not go in that direction.

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I'd obviously go with with you know, some sort of

0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Carpenter score I imagine. Yeah, I lean very on, very

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 1>much on car Pender for for horror scores. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>the now we're on ELM Street team is good as

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 1>a do Do Do Do? Do Do? Do do do? Do you know? No? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>vaguely yeah. He says his favorite B horror movie is Critters.

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 1>It's so good. That's that one that sounds that's on

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<v Speaker 1>the potential list for weird House. Critters is good. I

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 1>need to revisit Critters. I basically don't have memories of

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 1>this movie. I think I think I've only sort of

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 1>half watched it. Yeah, I mean it's another Gromlin movie,

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<v Speaker 1>so we gotta get in there. He says the scariest

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>horror villain is Michael Myers because he says he's not

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:38.439
<v Speaker 1>even evil, he's just curious, which I see what he's

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 1>saying about that. But that's funny because that's a direct

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<v Speaker 1>contradiction to what Loomis repeats over and over in Hewween

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:48.360
<v Speaker 1>and the whole series. The evil has escaped, He's the evil.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you not listening to Nick Jordan? Pe Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>There is one part where he's asked to assemble an

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<v Speaker 1>Avenger style team of horror villains. This is a really

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 1>good mix, he says. Okay, Freddy Krueger, Candy Man, the

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<v Speaker 1>silver Ball from Phantasm, Chucky from uh from the What's

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<v Speaker 1>the Doll Movies, Child's Play, and one of the grab

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 1>boids from Trimmer's. Now that is a team. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess so, I guess I could go with that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, that's funny. Only three of them talk, and well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know Freddie's going to do most of the talking. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Chucky, Chuckie and Freddy both really talk

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, so it's going to be mostly them with

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<v Speaker 1>the silver Ball kind of going around in the background. Yeah. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but then the last thing is that. Yeah. In that interview,

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Peele absolutely does say that he he's asked his

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 1>favorite final girl and he says Jada Pinkett and Demon Knight.

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 1>He says that, h she was the first black final

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<v Speaker 1>girl that he could remember from a horror movie and

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<v Speaker 1>and he identified with her. I think she's a great choice.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Demon Knight, as as we've said, is pretty wonderful. Yeah. Yeah,

0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a solid horror flick. And yeah, and it

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<v Speaker 1>it also goes to show, you know, the representation matters,

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, having having diversity in your cast matters because

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 1>people are watching this and they grow they're you know,

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 1>they're growing up. You know, we shouldn't get ourn entire

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<v Speaker 1>view of of reality from horror films, but like that's

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<v Speaker 1>part of the media we consume, you know. Yeah, the

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 1>characters of horror films are not usually I don't know,

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 1>aspirational figures or role models. But but be horror is

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:25.759
<v Speaker 1>a genre where I don't know, admirable levels of diversity

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<v Speaker 1>are still not often achieved. Absolutely. Here's a question that

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<v Speaker 1>what would an Avenger style team of horror villains like this,

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<v Speaker 1>What would they be trying to achieve? What? Why would

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 1>they come together? Like? What would they be a post?

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:40.719
<v Speaker 1>I imagine it's like suicide Squad or something right like that.

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:42.680
<v Speaker 1>We've got a we've got an even batter. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen suicide Squad. I'm what I assume the

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:48.720
<v Speaker 1>plot of suicide Squad is is we've got a villain

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:51.720
<v Speaker 1>who's so bad they can only be defeated by people

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 1>who are themselves bad. Oh man, what have it become?

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<v Speaker 1>You could do it as like a generational thing, like

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<v Speaker 1>to like there's a super team of of boring modern

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 1>horror icons. You know, so it's like ghost Face and

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh and Jigsaw. I don't know. I realized those are

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<v Speaker 1>probably not modern anymore. But it's like those guys, that

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<v Speaker 1>generation of horror villains, and opposing them that the previous

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 1>generations of generation of horror villains. So it's like generation

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:22.799
<v Speaker 1>versus generation. Who's gonna win? Okay, Actually we just got

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 1>a suggestion from Seth about what the modern horror icons are.

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<v Speaker 1>These are good. I couldn't think of them. So you've

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<v Speaker 1>got Annabelle from the annabel movies that messed up doll.

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:33.680
<v Speaker 1>And then you've got I hate that thing. I tried

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 1>to watch one of those movies. It was awful. Um,

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 1>and then Uh, and then the guy from Sinister, which

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I also have not seen those movies, but Seth compared

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>him to a member of slip Knot, and I think

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:47.759
<v Speaker 1>that's appropriate. That's exactly what he looks like. Now, they're

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:50.240
<v Speaker 1>often the same universe, right, is that the Conjuring universe

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:53.400
<v Speaker 1>that I've heard talk of? Well, Uh, annabel is the

0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Conjuring universe. I don't think the Sinister guy is. I

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 1>think he's just new Metal Demon universe. Okay, alright, I'm

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 1>just not up enough on my my current horror I think. Okay.

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:05.400
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, so those are the villains, and then you

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:08.759
<v Speaker 1>need a team like a crack Avenger style team of

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 1>traditional horror movie monsters, demons, and ball technology to go

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:16.799
<v Speaker 1>up against them. All right, sign me up? Okay, Phantasm

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 1>ball versus Blair Witch, how about it? Right? The question

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 1>is does the ball get lost in the woods? It's

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>zooming around, but is it zooming in circles? Okay, I'll

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:29.799
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