1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Listener Mail. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick, 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: and today we're bringing you the messages that you have 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: sent to us to start us off today. We've actually 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: got a straggler that I think was originally sent like 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: last September or October. But as we mentioned on the 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: show a few times, I think we lost some mail 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: from that period. Something happened to it. And so Caroline 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: recent this one. You want to start with this one, Rob, Yeah, 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: let's do it. Okay, This is from Caroline about the leshy. 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: You remember the creature of the forest in Russian mythology. 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: Caroline says, Hi, Robert and Joe, I just finished your 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: episode on the leshy. Once you described the creature, I 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: kept expecting you to bring up similarities it has with 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: the wolf in the Little Red Riding Hood tale. I 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: had never heard of creature before, but that was the 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: first thing I associated it with. You mentioned one of 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: its usual forms is that of a wolf, and that 20 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: it likes to lead unwary travelers off the path. Other 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: parts of the character that seemed to correspond were when 22 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: it disguises itself as the grandmother, there is something off, 23 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: and Little Red riding Hood's mother specifically warns her not 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: to talk to strangers or stray from the path. Could 25 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: the wolf in this tale be a version of the 26 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: leshy that traveled from the folk tales of Russia to 27 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: the folk tales of Germany. Regardless, from now on, I'm 28 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: going to think of the wolf from that tale as 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: a leshy in disguise. It makes a lot more sense 30 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: as a lushy than as a random wolf interested in 31 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: a quick two course dinner. Caroline, Well, Caroline, this is 32 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: an interesting idea. I don't know if it would go 33 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: exactly as as direct a line as that, Like you 34 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: have leshy and then that turns into the wolf in 35 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: Little Red riding Hood. But I can absolutely uh see 36 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: that this could come out of similar uh sort of 37 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: myth or folk tale archetypes that are kind of banging 38 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: around throughout folk tales of of of the whole world. Actually, 39 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: because I remember reading in the past that the Little 40 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: Red riding Hood folk tale is thought too is thought 41 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: to sort of be influenced by myth themes or bits 42 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: of stories and story elements that you find all throughout 43 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: the world, You find all throughout the folk tales of 44 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: ancient Europe, in North Africa, even in Asia. Um, and 45 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: it's uh yeah, so it it seems to be one 46 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: of those things that's kind of a stew of different 47 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: elements that you can find in bits and pieces for 48 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: myths going way way back. Yeah. I mean Robert Frost 49 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: was right about one thing. The woods are deep and 50 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: they are dark, and uh, you know that has a 51 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: lot of things have crept out of that imagined darkness 52 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: in human myth making and legend over over time. So 53 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: I feel like they these two creatures, even if there's 54 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: not any real connective tissue, they both emerge from that darkness. Yeah. 55 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: I seem to recall that I don't know if this 56 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: is actually a legitimate connection, but I seem to recall 57 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: there's some kind of idea that there's like a very 58 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: ancient myth archetype about like a fire maiden, like a 59 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: young woman or girl who is somehow associated with with 60 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: fire or redness in a way, who is attacked by 61 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: a wolf and then rescued by a hero of some kind. 62 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: And then that I think is also paired somewhat with 63 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: like the classic sort of restoration from the dead or 64 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: restoration from the belly myth part that you get in 65 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: the story of Jonah being swallowed by the whale and 66 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: then spit back out, but you can even get in 67 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: directly in Russian folk tales where somebody's eaten by a 68 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: wolf and then survives after being cut out of the belly. Yeah, 69 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: all right, we got another one. This is also I 70 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: guess a straggler, but as we always say, stragglers are welcome. 71 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: This goes back to our episode on fingernails and it 72 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: comes from Sicily Rob. Do you want to read this one? Sure? Go. 73 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: This is what it says. I am a new listener 74 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: and I am currently listening to your two part episode 75 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: from September on Fingernails. I'm someone who regularly has enhanced 76 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: with hard gel or alic very long fingernails. Attached a 77 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: picture for reference. You asked for stories about living with 78 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: long nails, and I thought you might be interested to 79 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: know that tool use and knuckle use are important for success. 80 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: There are very few things I cannot do with long nails, 81 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: and mostly turn my knuckles into fingertips to do things 82 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: like pop soda tabs or remove contact lenses. Now that's 83 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: impressive as a contact where Um, yeah, I have never 84 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: attempted to use my knuckles to get them out. I 85 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: guess it's possible. Wait which knuckle? Would it be? Your 86 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: first knuckle or second knuckle? I don't know. I'm just 87 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: imagining all knuckles. Maybe I'm envisioning it wrong, but I'm 88 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: just imagined just going in there just like tin knuckles, uh, 89 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: and removing the contact lenses. You know, it would be 90 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: a really interesting cyberpunk enhancement would be fingertips on your knuckles, 91 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: so you get like separate finger pads extending out from 92 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: I guess your your first your large knuckle. Have I 93 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: seen that before? I feel like I've seen something like that, 94 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: and maybe not cyberpunky, but something like fleshy you know. Uh, 95 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: I don't know it rings a bell anyway, they continue. 96 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: Tools like tweezers can be helpful for things you might 97 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: use the edge of your nail for. Certain styles of 98 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: common objects are also more nail friendly, like a keyboard 99 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: with flat than keys to allow typing with fingerpads instead 100 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: of fingertips, though I still often use pencils with the 101 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: racers to type on other types of keyboards. The hardest 102 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: routine task I encounter is actually putting an earring back 103 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: onto an earring, as the nail tends to get in 104 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: the way of both a very small object and a 105 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: very specific motor movement. Oh maybe that's supposed to be 106 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: putting an ear ring on an ear Okay, yeah, I 107 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: could see that being difficult. Uh, anyway, they continue. An 108 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: additional layer to note about nails is that there is 109 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: a tendency, at least for me to try to use 110 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: them as tools, but doing so will cause them to 111 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: break despy fortification. So much of the tool and knuckle 112 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: uses not because I cannot do the task with nails, 113 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 1: but rather to preserve their integrity. Lastly, I enjoyed hearing 114 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: the supernatural, slash scary aspects of long nails that you 115 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: described in your episode because I specifically like having long, 116 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: pointing nails that reference demonic or witchy aesthetics. I'm greatly 117 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: enjoying the episodes I've heard so far, and I'm excited 118 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,679 Speaker 1: to keep listening. Thanks Cecily, Well, Cecily, welcome on board. 119 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: We we hope you keep enjoying and thanks for sharing 120 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: your experience. With long nails. I'm glad to hear that 121 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: you are specifically trying to be demonic or witchy. You know, 122 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: I was just appreciating nails the other day because I 123 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: was working on some miniatures, and you know, I use 124 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,239 Speaker 1: like a little file and I use a little razor 125 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: blade to remove unwanted portions of the plastic. But then 126 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 1: there are times where I realize, you know, what works 127 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: better than either of these fine instruments, the fingernail itself. 128 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: You know, It's like fingernails are just so so useful 129 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: for fine manipulation, often in ways that we just take 130 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: for granted. I don't know how gross to get on 131 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: the show here, but I think some people would say 132 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: that that fingernails are sort of like perfect tools for 133 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: pimple popping, perfect Griny's written tools. Yeah, yeah, that that 134 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: that can lead to some skin infections. I've bet Wait, 135 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: I guess a pimple already is a kind of skin infection, 136 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: right or am I right about that? I don't really know. 137 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: I guess we'll have to sort that out later. Okay, Next, 138 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: we've got a short message about the Bondsai episode where 139 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: we talked about Tate's hell the Forest in Florida where 140 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: the dwarf cypress grow. And this is a short message 141 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: from Sammy. She says, Hello there, guys. I have been 142 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: in the Florida Panhandle my whole life, which would be 143 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: thirty five years. I knew not of this Tate and 144 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: his personal hell. That is a Florida forest, So thank 145 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: you guys for bringing it to my attention. I've googled 146 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: it and live about an hour and forty five minutes away, 147 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: So now I have a new place to take my 148 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: son camping. No, don't do it, Sammy, Uh, he will 149 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: have fun with the name if nothing else. Thank you, Sammy. 150 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's safety these days if you, you know, 151 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: have navigation devices and all that, it's more Tates heck 152 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: these days. This next message comes to us from Mark 153 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: and it is about our episode on Gold. I guess 154 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to read this one because Rob After this 155 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: there's some about Avatar the Last Airbender, and I assume 156 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: those are your territory. Okay, Mark says, Hi, Robert and Joe, 157 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: huge fan of your podcast. My favorite bits are when 158 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: you connect the central topic to some other esoteric piece 159 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: of knowledge deep in the recesses of your minds. When 160 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: the pandemic is over, you should have a contest to 161 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: win lunch with Robert and Joe. I expect the conversation 162 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: would lead to some interesting places. Well, that's very nice 163 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: of you to say, Mark, but I suspect I am 164 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: much more boring in person. My wife and son have 165 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: been winning that contest every day for over a year now, 166 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, they they would prefer to to watch 167 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: episodes of Avatar during during lunch. Take that for what 168 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: it's worth. Mark goes on. In your Gold Medal episode, 169 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: you talked about how gold did not have many practical 170 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: applications beyond its use as jewelry or coinage and then 171 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: later in electronics in medicine. But the studious high school 172 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: chemistry student in me would be remissed to forget Rutherford's 173 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: gold foil experiment. This is great to bring up, Uh so, 174 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: Mark Rits. At the time of the experiment, scientists did 175 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: not know the structure of the atom. We know today 176 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,359 Speaker 1: that it consists of negative electrons orbiting a positive nucleus 177 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: of protons and neutrons. Back then, after the electron was discovered, 178 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: someone theorized the quote plum pudding model, which conceived of 179 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: the electrons surrounded by a field of positively charged plums. 180 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: Rutherford's experiment was to shoot an alpha particle beam through 181 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: a thin piece of gold foil and see what happened 182 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: to the particles. The result was that the articles deflected 183 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: off at sharp angles, some even bouncing backwards. From this, 184 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: he deduced that the positive charge was not spread out 185 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: around the electrons, but rather packed into a tight compact 186 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: to nucleus. So why was gold used. Because it was 187 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: so soft and malleable, they could compress it into an 188 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: extremely thin layer. In an ideal experimental state, the foil 189 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: would only be one atom thick. Obviously this was not possible, 190 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: but they got it thin enough. Thanks for all the 191 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: great episodes, keep them coming, Mark. Well, thanks for pointing 192 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: that out, Mark, that was a great, great historic example 193 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: to bring up. Awesome. Yes, uh, now we're about to 194 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: get into some some Avatar the Last Airbender content, because 195 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: I think in the Gold episode we ended up talking 196 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: about gold bending in avatar. So if you have no 197 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: idea what this stuff is about, I will try to 198 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: be your avatar in the conversation. Alright, Yeah, we we 199 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: received some avatar listener mail from I think three or 200 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: four different people, but we have two of them included here. 201 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: So this one comes to us from Emily, Hi, Robert, 202 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: and Joe. I'm a long time listener, and I am 203 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: very grateful for the many hours of learning and entertainment 204 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: you've provided me. I also love the new Weird House 205 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: Cinema episodes, so thank you so much for that. I 206 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: reached out to my avatar Legend of Corus super fan 207 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: friend Andy with your question about metal benders bending gold. 208 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: This was her response. In the scene where Kuvira crushes 209 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: the Kiyoshi Medal of Freedom during Prince Wu's coronation, you 210 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: can see from the coloring of the metal that there 211 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: is likely gold in it. Additionally, when looking at the 212 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: royal brooch, one can see it is meant to be gold, 213 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: which would signify that royal artifacts in the Earth Kingdom 214 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: have a large gold component. It would also be reasonable 215 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: that if metal benders are able to bend meteorites, that 216 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: there would be nothing stopping them easily bending a soft 217 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: metal such as gold. Hope, this is interesting to you. 218 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: Keep it up Emily in Vermont, Okay, Rob, can you 219 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: explain the context here? What's this about? Um? This was 220 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: So I watched this episode not too long ago when 221 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: we're going through, uh, the Legend of Cora, and yeah, 222 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: it's basically someone who has the metal bending ability they 223 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: crush something that has gold in it. But so so 224 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 1: so yes, that's that's a good example from the show. 225 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: But then we also heard from a listener named Hannah 226 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: and she points out something even uh even more on 227 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: point here. So Hannah writes in and says, I was 228 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: so excited when you mentioned Avatar the Last Airbender in 229 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: your latest episode on Gold. I'm a huge fan of 230 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: Avatar the Last Airbender and consider it one of the 231 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: most formative pieces of media in my of my life. 232 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: I was smack dab in its target age group. I 233 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: think I was ten or eleven when it premiered on 234 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: Nickelodeon and watched every episode when it aired. I have since, 235 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: at various points rewatched the entire series three or more 236 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: times as I got older, as well as watching the 237 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: Legend of Cora twice and reading all the comics. Watching 238 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: it as a child, I just love the epic plot, 239 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: exciting fights, and fun humor. Coming back to it as 240 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: an adult, however, I'm able to appreciate how well developed 241 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: the characters are, and how nuanced the treatment of some 242 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: heavy subjects are, like war, imperialism, genocide, and grief, especially 243 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: how they impact children and families. I always appreciate media 244 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: that treats its young audiences as the intelligent beings that 245 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: they are and and knows that kids can handle complex 246 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: and challenging subjects if they're presented with enough patients. Anyway, 247 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: the real reason I wanted to write in is that 248 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: I think I know why we never see any Earthbenders 249 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: bending gold. I'm going to avoid as many spoilers as possible. 250 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: Metal bending is invented in Avatar, the Last Airbender by 251 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: an extremely powerful Earthbender who realizes that because metal is 252 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: quote Earth that has been purified and refined, they can 253 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: use their unique ability to see the impurities left in 254 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: the metal and bend that. By the time of Avatar 255 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: Legend of Corau seventy years later, metal bending is a 256 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: technique is far more widespread in this areas. It is 257 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: revealed that metal benders cannot bend platinum as it is 258 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: too pure and there are not enough trace amounts of 259 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: Earth for them to detect and bend. Given the associations 260 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: of gold and purity. I think it would not be 261 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: bendable in the same way that they treat platinum in 262 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: the universe of the show. I cannot possibly gush enough 263 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: about Avatar soul In by mentioning the fun fact that 264 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: each bending style is inspired by different real life martial arts. 265 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: For example, water bending is based on tai Chi. I 266 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: remember as a child seeing the short behind the scenes 267 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: snippet during ad breaks on Nickelodeon where the martial arts 268 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: consultants of the show would explain why certain styles were 269 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: chosen with side by side comparisons between the animated scenes 270 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: and himself demonstrating the movements in real life. It was 271 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: really interesting and beautiful. Anyway, thanks so much for the podcast. 272 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: I always look forward to its showing up in my 273 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: feed Well. Thanks so much, Hannah. Um Okay, so this 274 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: this raises more questions for me. So the idea is 275 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: that the the the natural earth bender person in the 276 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: show can can manipulate earth in like a telekinetic typeways 277 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: that basically it um but the earth must mean something 278 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: than just like any solid material that comes out of 279 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: the ground, because of course, you know, gold and platinum 280 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: would be would be metals that can be found in 281 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: the earth. So what is the actual earth that can 282 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: be bent and what are the kind of impurities you're 283 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: looking for in gold or platinum in order to bend it. Well, 284 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: I mean basically the main earth bound inc is just 285 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: like rocks, you know, like causing the rocks in the earth, 286 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: whatever minerals happen to be there, and using those like 287 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: making shields rise up, you know, throwing rocks at people 288 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: with it, that sort of thing. Um, And you know, 289 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: it gets really elaborate, and later you see people using 290 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: like stone constructs as well. Um. But uh, yeah, the 291 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: idea here is I guess that perhaps gold in and 292 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: of itself is just too pure to bend. Uh, you 293 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: need something with it. If you're going to bend to metal, 294 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: it has to have impurities and it so you're actually 295 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: bending the impurities, are using the impurities as kind of 296 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: the the you know, the the handle by which you 297 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: you bend the other material. In a similar way, there's 298 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: a variety of water bender that pops up called a 299 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: blood bender, where and it's you know, this is like 300 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: the dark side of water bending, where you can manipulate 301 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: a human being by bending the water in their body. 302 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: So you're not bending the human you're bending the water 303 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: in their flesh, and this is would be similar. You've 304 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: bend the metal by bending the impurities in the metal. Oh, 305 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: it's like that thing we already mentioned the scene and 306 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: X Men two where somebody gets injected with a bunch 307 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: of iron and their blood and then Magneto messes with them. 308 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: And you know, hey, if you go with the theory 309 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: of of of gold's origin of it being ultimately extraterrestrial 310 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: and nature, maybe you can you can heat that uh 311 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: in there as well. You know, it's like you're an 312 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: earth bender, not a you know, space mineral bender. Okay, 313 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: So I just looked it up. I was trying to 314 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: find what are the main elemental impurities that are found 315 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: in high purity gold, and according to a paper by 316 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: dj Hinneberg called Origin and Effects of Impurities in high 317 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: Purity Gold in uh, the majority of the impurities in 318 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: gold were silver, followed by iron, copper, and lead. So 319 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: maybe if you're trying to bend gold, you're you're looking 320 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: for one of those things. I mean, i'd imagine if 321 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: you're able to, if you're an earth bender and you 322 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: can move rocks around, probably one of the things you 323 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: can move is iron right? Yeah, yeah, I would imagine so. 324 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: So anyway, interesting interesting to think about it all into 325 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: sort of. It's always interesting exercise to take the world 326 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: of fiction and magic and then compare it with the 327 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: world of metallurgy and see where you go. Okay. This 328 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: next message comes from Sophie and it is a follow 329 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: up from a previous email she sent about our episodes 330 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: on head and brain theft. Now. In Sophie's original email, 331 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: she compared the repeated student prank theft of Jeremy Bentham's 332 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: nasty jerky head to something called the gavel goat. We 333 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: didn't know exactly what that was off off hand and 334 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: were forced to do some rapid googling. But she follows 335 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: up on that subject. So Sophie says, dear Robert and Joe, 336 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: all that time agonizing over sentence phrasing and making my 337 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: contextual sidebars easy to cut around for anecdotes shortening, and 338 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,239 Speaker 1: not once did I think, hang on, they might not 339 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: know what that is. Memory is so faulty, face palm. 340 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: The gavel goat in Sweden, aside from seeming like a 341 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: lovely annual tradition, has organically gained an unasked for tradition 342 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: where the large goat raised for admint in Gavel, Sweden 343 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: gets burned down or otherwise destroyed nearly every year. She 344 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: attaches a couple of articles. Um, Basically, it's become an 345 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: embedded arms race between people trying to fireproof and protect 346 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: the statue while others attempt to destroy it to extreme lengths, 347 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: involving cameras, flaming arrows, confused foreigners. Um. I don't know 348 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: what all those references are, but she goes on the 349 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: fact that it's illegal vandalism does little to challenge the 350 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: fact that it's now an organically established socio cultural phenomenon. 351 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: Once it becomes a globally known thing, watched annually to 352 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: see what protections are added or how long it lasts, 353 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: it's much harder to stop. Thus, what I meant to 354 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: reference was the fact that if stealing Jeremy Bentham's head 355 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: became a routine occurrence with momentum behind it, like the 356 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: unintentional tradition of burning the lovely goat has, it goes 357 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: from an aberrant side note slash periodic problem to a 358 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: constant battle that begins to feel inevitable and likely one 359 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: that University College London wishes to avoid, unless, of course, 360 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: Bentham had some sort of expressed wish somewhere that he 361 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: would like his head to be periodically stolen. That would 362 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: be wild. Anyways, with the opportunity to once again compliment 363 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: you on your work, your Friday features are the closest 364 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: I will ever come to being able to watch many 365 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: of your favorite movies, like horror films. But I get 366 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: to hear you talk about things with passionate enjoyment, and 367 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: better wrap my head around the cult important yet mystifying 368 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: troll to sausage Man synthetic flesh, synthetic flesh, and assure 369 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: you that I'm not holding my breath on a website 370 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: and writing this from the grave. But you can't receive 371 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: that for which you do not politely ask. No, pretty sure, 372 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: I still have my head and brain and everything. Already, 373 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: this looks so much longer than it felt in my head. 374 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: So I shall away lest I conceive more syllables. Hope 375 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: y'all are safe and well as that looks for you. Sophie, Well, 376 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: I have to say I don't think there's really a 377 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: cult following behind Sausage Man. No, I think that's just us. 378 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: Just that's that hey, and maybe the cult is growing. 379 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: Maybe we have three members of the cult. Now. I've 380 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: never heard anybody else really make much cult reference to 381 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: synthetic flesh either. Weirdly, because it seems like that should 382 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: inspire you think, like we're saying that should be DJ 383 00:20:50,240 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: should be dropping that sample um like crazy. I would think, yeah, 384 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: sinthetic flesh, sin that flesh, synthetic flesh k car um. 385 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: But then again, even if the even if the actual 386 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: phrase synthetic flesh and that and that the line from 387 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: the film isn't worshiped, I feel like that's the use 388 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: of special effects in that film definitely influenced a lot 389 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: of people. So at least the spirit of synthetic flesh 390 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: has traveled far. Troll Too absolutely has its own organic 391 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: cult following. But I think Sausage Man is all stuff 392 00:21:54,119 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: to blow your mind, all right. This next one comes 393 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: to us from Justin. This one says, hello, Rob, Joe, 394 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 1: and Seth. I've been listening for approximately five years now, 395 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: and this is my first time writing in. I have 396 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: really enjoyed the new format. I realized it takes a 397 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: lot of effort for everyone on the stuff to blow 398 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: your mind team to pull together and put out quality 399 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: content consistently. But you really have been and continue to 400 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: deliver the goods each day and every day. But I 401 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: must insert that I was perfectly fine with how it 402 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: was before. As a consumer, your program has truly become 403 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: a five course meal. I enjoy having a listener mail 404 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: episode to kick the week off. It adds a real 405 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: time element and offers a consideration on the perceptions of 406 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: the audience with the topic while the topic is still 407 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: fresh in my mind. While many of the listeners can 408 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: offer expertise on subjects covered, I do not have anything 409 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: new or exciting to offer at this time, and that's okay. 410 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: I think I figure my input is just as valuable. 411 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: I was concerned when Invention was absorbed. Invention episodes are 412 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: a delight, and I'm happy to see core episodes of 413 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: stuff to blow your mind include Invention. I feel that 414 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: the Artifact episodes show if your writing skills. I would 415 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: say your conversational tone has been what keeps me listening, 416 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: and Artifact episodes might lack that tone but have the 417 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: same DNA incorporating curiosity and wonder all the while acknowledging 418 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: some topics are short and Sweet Weird House. I was 419 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: talking with my wife about this new portion. She mentioned 420 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: that it seems like this show is Taylor specifically for me. 421 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: I happen to love movies found off the beaten path. 422 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: I have often called them winners. I have a few 423 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: personal favorites. I would love for you to explore Redline. 424 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: If you only cover one animated feature, consider this film 425 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: Creatures Speedsters an Invasion. I've watched this movie with the 426 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: same group of friends several times, and I am always 427 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: in awe. Funky Boy Awoken on Robo World. I don't 428 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: know how to explain this movie. It's like a mashup 429 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: of tropes and pop culture with an excellent artistic direction. 430 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: Uh dr Otto and the riddle of the gloom Beam. 431 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: I stumbled upon this. It plays off the zany characters 432 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: developed by Jim Varney, a k ernest um, a low 433 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: budget sci fi delight. It hits all the weird notes. Lastly, 434 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: I'm a sing of praise and admiration. You folks are 435 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: my travel companions and always with my spirits. You should 436 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: know how much your work and your integrity means to 437 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: me and my fellow listeners. Often your work is the 438 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: best part of my day. Thank you. Oh well that 439 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: is far too kind, justin Uh yeah, thanks for getting 440 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: in touch, you know. Um, yeah, we appreciate the feedback, 441 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: and thanks for bringing Redline to my attention. Uh. It 442 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: was totally off my radar, but after watching a clip, 443 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: I actually ordered a copy of this because it looks 444 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: absolutely insane. So um, I don't know yet if it's 445 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: definitely weird house material, but I'm looking forward to checking 446 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: it out on my own at the very at least. 447 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: As for dr Otto, I've never seen it, but I 448 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: grew up watching all the Earnest movies of course, and 449 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: weirdly enough, I was childhood friends with director Earnest, director 450 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: and co creator John our Cherry the Third's nephew, and 451 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: so I remember distinctly he had some his nephew had 452 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: some art on his wall in his room. Uh that 453 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: had that Dutch that his uncle had drawn or painted 454 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: for him, and I remember it was like, you know, 455 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: weird almost kind of psychedelic art. It was. It was 456 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: pretty neat. Wow. I just looked up the VHS box 457 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: for Doctor Otto and it is alive. Is this also? 458 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: So it looks like Jim Varney as Earnest on the 459 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: cover in like a little box, maybe just showing you like, hey, 460 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: remember Ernest, it's this guy. But then the bigger picture 461 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: is I think also Jim Varney, but more in a 462 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: kind of psychedelic Elvis look. Uh. Yeah. He had several 463 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: characters that he played. You know, he did the Arnest 464 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: character at an old woman character, and then this gloom 465 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: beam character who it was like him as some sort 466 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: of maniacal, you know, creature with a hand on the 467 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: top of his head. Um. I seem like I saw 468 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: saw that character pop up on some TV show or 469 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: another when I was a kid as well. You know 470 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: what he looks like a character who could fit in 471 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: and Phantom of the Paradise. Yeah, yeah, probably so Varney. 472 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: Varney was a great performer. I enjoyed him and then 473 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: pretty much everything I saw mostly it was Ernest films though, 474 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: uh and I do remember Ernest Scared Stupid as being 475 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: quite enjoyable, at least when I was a child. I 476 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: gotta confess, I think I was scared by that movie 477 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: like it had that was it had some legitimately scary 478 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: stuff in it. As I recall, it's been a long time, 479 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: but there's some sort of troll creature that is a 480 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: central threat is like legitimately a bit scary. I think 481 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: that it could turn people into wood by looking at them, 482 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: and that prospect scared me. I did not want to 483 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: be turned into wood. Yeah, it delivered more horror than 484 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: an earnest film, uh had to, you know, but I 485 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: guess it was you know, for a for creators like 486 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: that was probably you know, one of the things. It's like, 487 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 1: if you're gonna make just a whole bunch of earnest 488 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: movies in your career, when you do a Halloween, when like, 489 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: that's your excuse to let let loose and fit in 490 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: as much like horror stuff as you possibly can. So 491 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: I applaud them for that. Okay, now we got some 492 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: straight up weird how cinema messages. So this first one 493 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: comes from Brenda. Brenda says, hello, just listen to your 494 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: ghost in the Machine episode. I remember that was the 495 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: nineties cyber panic one that was like the haunted computer movie. 496 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: And Brenda says, was wondering if Johnnynemonic from nineteen nine 497 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: would be a movie you would consider for weird house cinema. 498 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: It's based on William Gibson's story with the cast including 499 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 1: Keanu Reeves, Dolf Lundgren, Ice Tea and Henry Rollins. And 500 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: don't forget the Yakuza uh a must at the time 501 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: for futuristic cyberpunk and Jones a military trained dolphin and 502 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: it's set in one Thank You and stay well. Saying 503 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: be well is a little too demolition man Brenda. Well, 504 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, I've I've never seen Johnny Nemonic. Um so 505 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: I'm well well aware of it. I mean it was 506 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: based on a William Gibson short story, as I recall, 507 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: and yeah, it's loaded with with fun performers, so I 508 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe we'll check it out. We had it's 509 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: a it takes place this year, so this would be 510 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: the year to do it, I guess. So. Oh and 511 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: then by serendipity, right around the same time, might maybe 512 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: even the same day. We got another note from a 513 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: listener about Johnnynemonic. This one was from Chris. Chris says, hi, 514 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: Robin Joe queued up quite the interesting film this evening 515 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: on Prime. I'm a big keyan New Reeves fan but 516 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: had never seen Johnnynemonic. Not sure if it's weird enough, 517 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: but it's quite interesting as there is a strange and 518 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: nineties mashup of technology. There was talk of sending facts 519 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: is having a brain capacity of three and twenty gigabytes, 520 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: and some sort of device that looks like a mini 521 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: CD player remember those. There is a wild device that 522 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: looks sort of like a laser floss that can cut 523 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: through anything. There's a cut scene of a concord jet landing. 524 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: Dina Meyer, who plays uh I guess a character named 525 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: Jane has a quite manic energy during some moment. Oh 526 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: and Dolph Lundgren is in this movie. There's a dolphin 527 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: that can scan sound waves and Kiano refers to it 528 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: as a fish. To be honest, I feel bad for 529 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: the dolphin. Iced Tea shows up as a character. Well, 530 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: it's really something else best Chris, Well, there you go. 531 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: I mean it sounds like we should probably add it 532 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: to the list. I've got enough people asking for it. Yeah. 533 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: Oh and one last thing. Chris also wrote to us, 534 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: like right around the same time to say that they 535 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: were going to watch Boggy Creek two, and they said, 536 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: thank you for always expanding my horizons. That's what That's 537 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: what Boggy Creek two does, expands horizons. It's about learning, 538 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: all right, here's another one that one comes to us 539 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: from Wonko Wonco writes in and says, hello, Robert and Joe. 540 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: I was getting caught up on this week's cast and 541 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: listening to Weirdout Cinema episode on Demon Night, I was 542 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: struck with inspiration to write in. You mentioned that each 543 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: successive Chosen One adds their blood the key and possibly 544 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: dilutes the blood of Christ in the process. But many 545 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: Christian faiths believe that when normal water is added to 546 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: holy water, then it too becomes holy. Perhaps the chosen 547 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: One's blood is similarly transubstantiated when added. Thank you for everything, 548 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: Wonko Odd, this is very good point. Yeah. So like 549 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: the thing in the movies that Billy's aane, I guess 550 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: is trying to pour all of the christ blood out 551 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: of this bottle key thing. It's the mcguffin in the movie. Uh. 552 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: And somehow the Chosen Ones, which originally is William Sadler, 553 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: the guy who's doing like naked martial arts in his 554 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: hotel room and die hard to uh and then later 555 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: Jada Pinkett, Uh, they put their blood in there and uh, 556 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: and I guess that somehow mixes with the blood of 557 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: Christ and yeah, it does some kind of magic. But 558 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,239 Speaker 1: this is a good point though. I wonder if like 559 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: by that logic, if the holy thing always like spreads 560 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: its holiness basically infinitely, by almost the principle of like 561 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: homeopathic medicine, you know, the things can just be like 562 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: infinitely diluted. If it works like that, why couldn't you 563 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: just like pour a drop of holy water into the 564 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: ocean and then make all the water on earth holy 565 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: m I don't know, because it eventually runs into uh fish, 566 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. Um, would that not have the with 567 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: would the holy water not have the power to overcome 568 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: the p the p enos um? I don't know, or 569 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: maybe maybe any animal that's not specifically mentioned in the Bible. 570 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: If the holy water encounters it's your and then it stops, 571 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. Um, maybe there's a range of effect. 572 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's like dungeons and dragons. We'd have to 573 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: look at the spell, the exact text of the spell, 574 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: and go by that. You know. This raises a good issue. 575 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: I was just wondering about about the similarities between dungeons 576 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: and dragons and constitutional law, and that could could you 577 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: have like similar philosophy styles like are there dungeons and Dragons, 578 00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: strict constructionists versus original intent versus like living doc meant 579 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: I guess you know, as I guess that the thing 580 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,719 Speaker 1: is in Dungeon and Dragons, you always have that dungeon 581 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: master that their their word is the final word. I 582 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: guess that also has theological connections, right, Like that's the 583 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: debate between solo script tour of versus like does the 584 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: church have a say yeah, yeah, I mean all the Ultimately, 585 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: the bottom line is ask your dungeon master, because they 586 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: are they are the divine will on earth. They are 587 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: your pope. Alright. This next message comes from Dan, and 588 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: it is also about Tales from the Crypt Demon Night. 589 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: Dan says, and this is a this is a Crypt 590 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: Keeper reference. So I'll try to do the voice. Hello, kitties. 591 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: Oh that's pretty good, was it okay? Uh? Dan says, 592 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: Hello kitties. I'm writing in regarding your weird House cinema 593 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: episode on Demon Night. I never knew that it was 594 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: a feature film that played in theaters and always thought 595 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: it was a made for TV movie due to the 596 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: fact that it was the Tales from the Crypt production. 597 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: And I first watched it on HBO back in the 598 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: late nineties. Personally, I thought the title never really fit, 599 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: as Billy Zane is less a night and more like 600 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: a drifter or hitchhiker. It is, it is a movie 601 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: with with a very high drifter quotitioned Dan goes on. Still, 602 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I'm glad that you decided to cover 603 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: Demon Knight and not Bordello of Blood because that movie, 604 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: even by late nineties horror standards, is terrible. Why would 605 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: anyone ever cast Dennis Miller as the snarky protagonist in 606 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: a horror movie? Quick fun factor Regarding Demon Knight, I 607 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: remember watching an interview somewhere with Jordan Peel who was 608 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: asked his favorite final girl and he said it was 609 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: Jada Pinkett and Demon Knight. Loving the Weird House Cinema episodes. 610 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: Favorite Dick Miller rolls are in The Howling Gremlins and 611 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: Terminator Dan Oh, Dan, Well, this was a great bit, 612 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: and somehow this fact about Jordan Peel seemed familiar to me. 613 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if we had mentioned it in the episode, 614 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: but I assume not a uh, since you brought it 615 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: up in the email here, So so I looked this up. 616 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: I found the actual video. It's apparently an interview with 617 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal, which seems like a kind of 618 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: strange venue for Jordan Peel to discuss his thoughts about 619 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: horror as a genre. But it was a good interview 620 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 1: where they're asking some kind of quick direct questions about 621 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: like his favorite examples of things in horror, and he 622 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: was giving his answers, and uh, there are some write 623 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: ups you can find on the internet, like articles that 624 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: summarize it, but I just wanted to talk about a 625 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: few of the things, he says. Oh, and by the way, 626 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: I guess I should should just say yeah, I'm a 627 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: big Jordan Peel fan. I love Key and Peel. It's 628 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: one of my favorite uh comedy shows of recent years. 629 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: And Jordan Peel's horror movies are really good. Absolutely, But anyway, 630 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: on the subject of horror, he talks about how the 631 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: first movie that scared him was The Fly, and he 632 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: says that it scared him because he watched it in 633 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: an age that was really inappropriate. He's I think he's 634 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: talking about the David Cronenberg Fly, not not the one 635 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: with Vincent Price. And so I would mess you up 636 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: that I would mess yet not a movie for kids 637 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: to see. I don't know who should see that. I mean, 638 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: like I respect that movie, but uh yeah, fun for 639 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: no ages. Yeah, that's like with me. I saw RoboCop 640 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: way too early and it's just like, oh my god, 641 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: really really did off more than I could chew with that. 642 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: But he also talked about a thing with reference to 643 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: The Fly. That's something I definitely feel. He says, you know, 644 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: part of what's good about horror is that, like he said, 645 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: he watched The Fly and it really messed him up, 646 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 1: like it scared him, but then once it was over, 647 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: he got through it and he was less scared because 648 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: he'd made it to the end. And it does give 649 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: you a kind of feeling of mental fortification to like 650 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: make it through a simulated scary experience in a horror 651 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: movie and then you come out the other end safe. Yeah. 652 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: But he also talks about how his favorite musical score 653 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 1: from a horror movie is not Mere on ELM Street. 654 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: I think that's a good choice. Yeah, I don't remember 655 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: it at all. I would not go in that direction. 656 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: I'd obviously go with with you know, some sort of 657 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: Carpenter score I imagine. Yeah, I lean very on, very 658 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: much on car Pender for for horror scores. But no, 659 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: the now we're on ELM Street team is good as 660 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: a do Do Do Do? Do Do? Do do do? Do you know? No? Okay, 661 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: vaguely yeah. He says his favorite B horror movie is Critters. 662 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: It's so good. That's that one that sounds that's on 663 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: the potential list for weird House. Critters is good. I 664 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: need to revisit Critters. I basically don't have memories of 665 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: this movie. I think I think I've only sort of 666 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: half watched it. Yeah, I mean it's another Gromlin movie, 667 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: so we gotta get in there. He says the scariest 668 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: horror villain is Michael Myers because he says he's not 669 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,439 Speaker 1: even evil, he's just curious, which I see what he's 670 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: saying about that. But that's funny because that's a direct 671 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 1: contradiction to what Loomis repeats over and over in Hewween 672 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: and the whole series. The evil has escaped, He's the evil. 673 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: Why are you not listening to Nick Jordan? Pe Uh. 674 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: There is one part where he's asked to assemble an 675 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: Avenger style team of horror villains. This is a really 676 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: good mix, he says. Okay, Freddy Krueger, Candy Man, the 677 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: silver Ball from Phantasm, Chucky from uh from the What's 678 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,240 Speaker 1: the Doll Movies, Child's Play, and one of the grab 679 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: boids from Trimmer's. Now that is a team. Yeah, yeah, 680 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: I guess so, I guess I could go with that. Yeah, 681 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: come on, that's funny. Only three of them talk, and well, yeah, 682 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: and you know Freddie's going to do most of the talking. Well, 683 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 1: I don't know. Chucky, Chuckie and Freddy both really talk 684 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: a lot, so it's going to be mostly them with 685 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 1: the silver Ball kind of going around in the background. Yeah. Oh, 686 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: but then the last thing is that. Yeah. In that interview, 687 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: Jordan Peele absolutely does say that he he's asked his 688 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: favorite final girl and he says Jada Pinkett and Demon Knight. 689 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: He says that, h she was the first black final 690 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: girl that he could remember from a horror movie and 691 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 1: and he identified with her. I think she's a great choice. 692 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: I mean Demon Knight, as as we've said, is pretty wonderful. Yeah. Yeah, 693 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: it's it's a solid horror flick. And yeah, and it 694 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: it also goes to show, you know, the representation matters, 695 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, having having diversity in your cast matters because 696 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: people are watching this and they grow they're you know, 697 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: they're growing up. You know, we shouldn't get ourn entire 698 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 1: view of of reality from horror films, but like that's 699 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: part of the media we consume, you know. Yeah, the 700 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: characters of horror films are not usually I don't know, 701 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: aspirational figures or role models. But but be horror is 702 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: a genre where I don't know, admirable levels of diversity 703 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: are still not often achieved. Absolutely. Here's a question that 704 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: what would an Avenger style team of horror villains like this, 705 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: What would they be trying to achieve? What? Why would 706 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: they come together? Like? What would they be a post? 707 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: I imagine it's like suicide Squad or something right like that. 708 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: We've got a we've got an even batter. I mean, 709 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: I've never seen suicide Squad. I'm what I assume the 710 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,720 Speaker 1: plot of suicide Squad is is we've got a villain 711 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,720 Speaker 1: who's so bad they can only be defeated by people 712 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: who are themselves bad. Oh man, what have it become? 713 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: You could do it as like a generational thing, like 714 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: to like there's a super team of of boring modern 715 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: horror icons. You know, so it's like ghost Face and 716 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: Uh and Jigsaw. I don't know. I realized those are 717 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: probably not modern anymore. But it's like those guys, that 718 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: generation of horror villains, and opposing them that the previous 719 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: generations of generation of horror villains. So it's like generation 720 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: versus generation. Who's gonna win? Okay, Actually we just got 721 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: a suggestion from Seth about what the modern horror icons are. 722 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: These are good. I couldn't think of them. So you've 723 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: got Annabelle from the annabel movies that messed up doll. 724 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: And then you've got I hate that thing. I tried 725 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: to watch one of those movies. It was awful. Um, 726 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: and then Uh, and then the guy from Sinister, which 727 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 1: I also have not seen those movies, but Seth compared 728 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: him to a member of slip Knot, and I think 729 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: that's appropriate. That's exactly what he looks like. Now, they're 730 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,240 Speaker 1: often the same universe, right, is that the Conjuring universe 731 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: that I've heard talk of? Well, Uh, annabel is the 732 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: Conjuring universe. I don't think the Sinister guy is. I 733 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 1: think he's just new Metal Demon universe. Okay, alright, I'm 734 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: just not up enough on my my current horror I think. Okay. 735 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 1: But anyway, so those are the villains, and then you 736 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: need a team like a crack Avenger style team of 737 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: traditional horror movie monsters, demons, and ball technology to go 738 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: up against them. All right, sign me up? Okay, Phantasm 739 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: ball versus Blair Witch, how about it? Right? The question 740 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: is does the ball get lost in the woods? It's 741 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: zooming around, but is it zooming in circles? Okay, I'll 742 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: give it a shot. All right, Well, I guess we're 743 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and uh put a stake in this 744 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 1: one as well. Um, this is your weekly listener mail, 745 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: but we'll be back next week, most likely with more 746 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: listener mail, so keep it coming. 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