1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: It's time for Donkey of the Day. Donkeys, I'm a Democrat, 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: so being donkey of the day is a little bit 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: of a mixed so like a. 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: Donkey of the Day record club. Now I've been called 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: a lot of my twenty three years that donkey of 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: the day is a near wife. 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: Yes, donkey today for Monday, September eighteenth, Oh Monday, it 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: goes the Yon Winner. Jan is the co founder Rolling 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: Stone magazine and he's seventy seven years old. Okay, when 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: you're seventy seven, you have the license to say whatever 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: you want, however you want to whoever you want, but 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: you are not exempt from the backlash. Are the consequences 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: of saying what the hell you want? I mean, there 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: are many consequences for a seventy seven year old anyway. 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 1: But Jan has been removed from the Rock and Roll 16 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame Foundations board after some criticism he got 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: for comments he made in the New York Times interview. 18 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: See Yan has a book coming out called The Masters, 19 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: which features interviews he conducted with artists such as John Lennon, 20 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: Bob Dylan, Mick Jagger, just to name a few, and 21 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: some other people while at the Helm of Rolling Stone Magazine. 22 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: I think it's seven interviews all together, all white males, 23 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: and he spoke about his decision to not include interviews 24 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: with women and black artists to needless to say, the 25 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: conversation didn't go well. Let's go to NBC News for 26 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: your port police. 27 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: Rolling Stone Magazine co founder Yon Winner explains why he 28 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: only included white men in his new book The Masters. 29 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: Insofar as women, I mean, there were just none of 30 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: them were as articulate enough on this intellectual level. 31 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: Oh stop it, you're telling you Jonay Mitchell is not 32 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: articulate enough. It's not that they're not creative geniuses. 33 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: It's not that they're inarticulate. 34 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: Although you go to have a deep conversation with Gray 35 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: Slick or Janis, please be my guest. Those comments, published 36 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: Friday from an interview with New York Times magazine, now 37 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: criticized as sexist and racist, you think the foundation Winner 38 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: helped create. Issuing a terse statement Saturday saying Jan Rinter 39 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: has been removed from the board of directors of the 40 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation overnight, Winner releasing 41 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: an apology. In my interview with The New York Times, 42 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: I made comments that diminished the contributions, genius and impact 43 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: of black and women artists, and I apologize wholeheartedly for 44 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 2: those remarks. 45 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: Jon said that black and women artists weren't articulate enough 46 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: on an intellectual level to be interviewed for his book 47 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: The Master stat Irony in this statement is Yon isn't 48 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: smart enough to not say this out loud. Okay, if 49 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: you feel that way, fine, you can't change it was 50 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: in a person's heart. But to speak this out loud, now, why? 51 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: All right? Fun fact, Tina Turner, black woman with the 52 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: second person ever on the cover of Rolling Stone, clearly 53 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: first woman, clearly, first black person on the second of 54 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: an issue of Rolling Stone Magazine, November twenty fifth, nineteen 55 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: sixty seven. John Lennon was the first. Now I know 56 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: Tina Turner is no longer with us, but I'm making 57 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: that point to say, clearly Yon understands the value of 58 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: black people and women and music. He just doesn't believe 59 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: intellectually we are capable of having a conversation about said music. 60 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: This is like racism one on one, Okay. The stereotype 61 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: of the dumb black right, all these false presumptions and 62 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: biases for years trying to prove that black people are 63 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: biologically and intellectually inferior to white people, and same with women. 64 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: You know, good old fashioned sexism wants women to believe 65 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: that they are dumbed in men. That's what's so stupid 66 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: about these comments Yon made. Not only are they rooted 67 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: in foolishness that can be easily debunked. He doesn't even 68 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: have an intellectual argument as to why he didn't put 69 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: black people in women in his book. Okay. In fact, 70 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: he said, for public relations sake, maybe I should have 71 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: gone and found one black and one woman artist to 72 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: include here that didn't measure up to that same historical standard, 73 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: just to avert this kind of criticism. That's not an 74 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: intellectual argument at all. It's just a racist and sexist one. Okay. 75 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: I need Yon to articulate to me, why do you 76 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: feel a woman and black people didn't deserve to be 77 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: in this book called Damasters. Stevie Wonder not a master 78 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: of his craft. Okay, if you ask me, Stevie Wonder 79 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: or run circles around everybody you got featured in this book. 80 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: There is no intellectual reason as to why Joni Mitchell 81 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: shouldn't be interviewed either, We probably could listen to both 82 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 1: of them Watx poetic about music for days. But Yon 83 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: can't because he already has preconceived prejudices about black people 84 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: and women. Okay, to Yon, Stevie Wonder and other black 85 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: people sound like this one. 86 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: They talks, I am but an adult, and but these 87 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: but boys are with me. 88 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: To Yan Joni Mitchell, and women sound like this when 89 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: they talk. 90 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, eat his seds his. 91 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: Well, jan to us, you sound like this. That's right. 92 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: Please let Chelsea handle give Yon Winner the biggest he 93 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: huh hee haw hee haw. 94 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: That is way too much. 95 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: Dan Maynes. Kathy Griffin went in on this. 96 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: Please give this giant jar male the biggest he haw. 97 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: Shall Little Mama said when they got we go high. 98 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: I feel sometimes and they go low. We should go 99 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: to the floor with them. Chris rock onon in on 100 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: this cracker ass crack of Oh okay, okay, oh girl, 101 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: my girl, my girl's working fast food right, okay, okay, 102 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: it's gonna be busy today, okay, all right, all right, well, 103 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: thank you for that donkey of the day. Yes, indeed, 104 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: b e t we see out of mall. Donkey today 105 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: is brought to you by the law Office of Michael 106 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: s Lam Andsoft. Don't be a donkey. Dot pound two 107 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: fifty on your cell and say the bull. If you've 108 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: been hurting a construction accident, that's pound two five oh 109 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: from your cell and say the bull. 110 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: Wake that ass up in the morning. 111 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club