Speaker 1: Everybody.
Speaker 2: It's DJ env Charlamagne the gud We are to breakfast
Speaker 2: club Nowhew just joining us.
Speaker 3: We're talking about this guy I've been trending on social media.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: He was trending because he went on a date and
Speaker 2: it didn't go as planned. He was damn there crying.
Speaker 3: Let's see what he said.
Speaker 5: So I just left the restaurant after waiting thirty minutes
Speaker 5: for a day to show, and apparently I got stood up.
Speaker 5: I don't know what to say. I'm trying to do
Speaker 5: everything right to be a gentleman. I brought flowers.
Speaker 1: I've been consistent talking with this girl for two weeks,
Speaker 1: trying to get to know what she likes.
Speaker 5: But she doesn't like I made plans. I picked the
Speaker 5: restaurant the day of the time. I've done everything to
Speaker 5: be just the kind of guy that the value somebody's
Speaker 5: signed like. I just I'm just looking for my first
Speaker 5: I'm just looking for the one that I guess he's
Speaker 5: out there from me. Ladies, tell me what is that
Speaker 5: you wrong?
Speaker 3: And we're asking eight hundred and five eight five one
Speaker 3: oh five one, what's your thoughts?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: Willie D doesn't feel like this guy should have brought
Speaker 2: flowers at all. Thought that was the first red flag.
Speaker 1: First red flag, second red flag is all that damn crime. Look, man,
Speaker 1: don't know women want a dude like that leading them.
Speaker 1: I know it's a lot of women who was in
Speaker 1: the comments or the dumb meant section making these suggestions
Speaker 1: that we should show this guy some sympathy. Poor guy.
Speaker 1: That's bad. Those same women would not date that guy
Speaker 1: under any circumstances. Bringing. Bringing flowers to a woman on
Speaker 1: the first date is a red flag. She probably saw him,
Speaker 1: That's why she didn't show up. She probably saw him
Speaker 1: from a distance. Had one of her friends who work
Speaker 1: at the restaurant, you know, put him on FaceTime or
Speaker 1: something and be like that show show, let me see
Speaker 1: what this dude like.
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: Oh girl? And she probably called one of her friends
Speaker 1: cause it's crazy. He got some goddamn flowers, a whole
Speaker 1: bouquet of flowers. Yeah, flowers is that bad?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 4: I think it depends on what kind of flowers.
Speaker 5: Like.
Speaker 7: It's a first date, so I do agree with Williams.
Speaker 7: A first date, you know what I mean? So I
Speaker 7: might be moving kind of fast, but I don't think
Speaker 7: it's a bad gesture. But I just wouldn't bring a
Speaker 7: dozen roses. Maybe maybe some two, some lilies.
Speaker 2: Some sun something, just you know, because you know it's
Speaker 2: it's something nice. I think the starts the date off
Speaker 2: in the positive direction. You come pick up or she
Speaker 2: come here, you go madys as a bouquet of flowers.
Speaker 7: It can't be roses is very sentimental. Romance especially depends
Speaker 7: on what color.
Speaker 1: Man, This ain't no prime date, bro, it's saying prome.
Speaker 1: This is just a regular date.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been talking to this chick for a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. I'm trying to get to know it. It
Speaker 1: is very important that you're not spook a woman that
Speaker 1: you first meet. Yeah, you know, after they dated for
Speaker 1: a while and they really know each other and she
Speaker 1: understands him, he understands her. You know. He can buy
Speaker 1: roses anytime. It's great, but you gotta be very careful
Speaker 1: because women can easily get spooked.
Speaker 4: You think flowers, I don't think.
Speaker 1: Can spook a woman because.
Speaker 4: They roses will I think a little back of.
Speaker 1: Sun flowers isn't roses. Flowers?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but roses there.
Speaker 7: Different colors mean romantic, Like red means romance means love,
Speaker 7: I thought means love and romance.
Speaker 4: I forgot what white and all that means.
Speaker 1: But I was like some.
Speaker 4: Tulips, some lily.
Speaker 1: Okay, So if rose is cool, it's diamond stud it rains.
Speaker 4: Cool, flowers crazy.
Speaker 3: You can get flowers for ten dollars fifteen dollars at Walmart.
Speaker 1: Hell no, I'm.
Speaker 4: Gonna change the situation right now.
Speaker 2: Listen, whether you've got a door right, yeah, and the
Speaker 2: gentleman comes to pick up your daughter, you don't want
Speaker 2: them to come with some flowers.
Speaker 1: Nah, I want them to come with the right attitude.
Speaker 1: It's more important. So we're trying to learn each other.
Speaker 1: So it's more important that that that you know you
Speaker 1: you learn each other and watch each other manner hysms,
Speaker 1: and and and and get familiar with one another. That's
Speaker 1: the most important thing. I think, you know, like, it
Speaker 1: ain't even where you where you take them. It's not
Speaker 1: about fancy restaurants and and and and gifts and all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. It's about the human connection. That's
Speaker 1: what it's about. It's not about all that other stuff.
Speaker 7: And this is where we get confused that you don't
Speaker 7: think the flowers help to open up the human connection.
Speaker 4: No, damn A lot of people.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. You have to really think
Speaker 1: when you're doing this, when you're dealing with a woman,
Speaker 1: you have to like get out of your feelings. You
Speaker 1: got to get out of your emotions and think to yourself,
Speaker 1: if I do this, how can she how how might
Speaker 1: she interpret it? And you got to take out the
Speaker 1: as much wigger room for interpretation as possible.
Speaker 4: She might say, Damn, nobody ever gave me tulips before.
Speaker 1: All right, this is special, this is nice, something that
Speaker 1: nobody ever gave me tuolips before.
Speaker 7: This dude is a cornball, Tanya, Yes, what's up to
Speaker 7: talk to us with flowers on the first day?
Speaker 1: Tanya?
Speaker 4: What you think?
Speaker 6: Hey, guy, listen, Yes, flowers on the first day.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's fine. It's not like it's a big fill.
Speaker 8: He did everything right. It's just the only thing that
Speaker 8: I felt that he did wrong is he's whining about it.
Speaker 8: A woman does not want to hear a man whine.
Speaker 4: I think I agree with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the flowers, I don't see nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 6: This wrong?
Speaker 1: What's your name?
Speaker 6: Bro?
Speaker 8: Just brew from the Bronx.
Speaker 4: From the Bronx. What what you bring on that first day?
Speaker 3: Bacon?
Speaker 7: Egg, and cheese and cheese, bacon, egg and cheese, a
Speaker 7: box of backwood, a box cutter.
Speaker 8: I want to ask you that question with the flowers.
Speaker 6: I think what he is wrong about that.
Speaker 8: I think you can give a girl flowers any time
Speaker 8: you feel like that's how you feel about it one
Speaker 8: day school. It doesn't about him. And if you're a
Speaker 8: ladies man, you're gonna do that anyway.
Speaker 4: And that's why the bodega cell flowers, right.
Speaker 3: And the flowers is cheap at the bodega.
Speaker 4: Stop hanging up on people.
Speaker 3: Hello, who's this you know this morning?
Speaker 8: Can you hear me?
Speaker 3: I can hear you.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: What's your thoughts mind, Susie?
Speaker 4: What you think about flowers on the first day? Susie,
Speaker 4: I think that that was a good jest, like four three,
Speaker 4: hold of that Geechee and yourself. You know, we were romant,
Speaker 4: were romantic from the.
Speaker 7: On the mask already know, yeah, talking man, But I
Speaker 7: think like that was my thing for him to do,
Speaker 7: was to bring the flower.
Speaker 1: Was that was her all? Okay?
Speaker 4: I agree? See, we were romantic in the low country.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Willie just made all the
Speaker 4: floors in Texas lose money.
Speaker 1: This morning, say I'm I'm I'm a romantic guy too,
Speaker 1: but I believe that romance have to be earned. I'm
Speaker 1: not just giving them any chick romance, Like, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna have a conversation first, let me see if you
Speaker 1: are deserving, just like a woman shouldn't give any man romance.
Speaker 1: I think all that that's levels to it, and and
Speaker 1: and if and if it don't work out, whatever's left
Speaker 1: is better than whatever left.
Speaker 3: Rod, what's your thoughts, Rod?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I will.
Speaker 3: Will you did?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 6: First off? First off, you gotta set up the date.
Speaker 6: There's something that you want to be doing yourself. If
Speaker 6: somebody don't show up, you can still do you. Number
Speaker 6: two never Shunty's much better nowadays as far as women
Speaker 6: appreciate it like that, they gotta you gotta make a work.
Speaker 1: To earn that.
Speaker 6: You know, you gotta you gotta get out there and use.
Speaker 8: Your mouth piece.
Speaker 6: At first she would say about something, and then after
Speaker 6: that you could aculate to get get us and get flowers.
Speaker 7: I don't think we should, uh let let women dictate
Speaker 7: how we move as romantics, meaning that if I'm the
Speaker 7: type of person that like to bring a woman flowers,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna just bring the woman flowers.
Speaker 4: Now she messed that up. Then we don't go, no,
Speaker 4: you won't go no further than the flowers in this day.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, but you see how it ended for
Speaker 1: him crying on the internet. See see, so we could
Speaker 1: say all this stuff that we want to, but but
Speaker 1: if we look at that, we've looked at these situations
Speaker 1: in general, this this is usually the result. You know,
Speaker 1: there is a such thing as a guy being too
Speaker 1: kind too fast. Too kind too fast is a red flag.
Speaker 7: And I think this is the thing that what that
Speaker 7: lady said about the wine and is important because I
Speaker 7: feel like he had a sense of entitlement, you know
Speaker 7: what I mean, even though he did get stood up,
Speaker 7: like what if something happened, like do your mind, don't
Speaker 7: even go to maybe something.
Speaker 3: But it seems like this, it seems like he's been
Speaker 3: stead up numerous times.
Speaker 1: Come on, That's what I'm saying a lot of times
Speaker 1: these guys. I heard some people saying that, well, you see,
Speaker 1: this is what happens when you do guys stuff, do
Speaker 1: stuff like this, the guys they end up being mass murderer,
Speaker 1: serial killers and rapists and all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Because people pick on them, bully them. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you something, man, If being rejected is going to make
Speaker 1: you that you're a chump, you a sucker. Anyway, Look, man,
Speaker 1: the greater there have been greater men than us who
Speaker 1: have been rejected and picked themselves up, dust themselves off,
Speaker 1: and kept it moving. You get rejected, man, you keep
Speaker 1: it moving. And if you aw that what you think
Speaker 1: you are, then it's her loss anyway.
Speaker 2: But we'll take some more calls eight hundred and five
Speaker 2: eighty five one o five one. But really, I will
Speaker 2: say that's that's today's society.
Speaker 3: And that's part of the problem, right.
Speaker 2: Because before you know, you get rejected, what your pops
Speaker 2: or or your family tell you do you go back
Speaker 2: out there and try and get suck it up. Same
Speaker 2: thing if you get into a bully. Let's say you
Speaker 2: got a problem with a bully, what did your pops do?
Speaker 2: You go fight that bully. If you lose, you go
Speaker 2: fight him again. You go fight him again. All you
Speaker 2: learn if he's making fun of you, learn how to
Speaker 2: make fun of him back. It was never to the
Speaker 2: point where you gotta go cry because your family wasn't
Speaker 2: gonna allow it.
Speaker 3: Now I feel like a lot of times we put
Speaker 3: gloves hand.
Speaker 2: We hear massides these kids with gloves where they feel
Speaker 2: like it's the end of the world when they get
Speaker 2: talked about, feel like it's the end.
Speaker 7: Of the world, when they get dissed on a date.
Speaker 7: The only thing I don't agree with is that whole
Speaker 7: bully thing. I always thought that was a lie. Somebody
Speaker 7: beat your ass good one time, you ain't going back
Speaker 7: and put you to go back.
Speaker 1: Well, well, the thing about it is that if you
Speaker 1: fight a bully, typically, if you fight a bully and
Speaker 1: you fight back, you usually don't have to deal with
Speaker 1: that because bullies don't like resistance. Bullies like easy targets.
Speaker 1: They like soft targets. And this is why it's important
Speaker 1: when somebody bullies you iportant to stand up for yourself
Speaker 1: the first time, because if you don't, you're teaching them
Speaker 1: that it's okay to belly.
Speaker 7: So you don't think that man stood up for himself
Speaker 7: on the internet by whining like that, No, no, stop
Speaker 7: playing with me.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: I think he laid down for himself and he did
Speaker 1: himself for a huge disservice. And no woman, no woman,
Speaker 1: that's really a boy. Something would want appro create with
Speaker 1: a dude like that, what is he gonna teach his
Speaker 1: boy to cry harder? Look, Dad, your cry was weak.
Speaker 1: Look at my cry? Dad. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: All that No man, get on up out of here
Speaker 1: with the woman.
Speaker 4: They stop all that crime.
Speaker 1: Man, stop all that, and not just him, all you
Speaker 1: other dudes, you newscasters. I've been seeing news. I've been
Speaker 1: wanting to say this for a long time. You news
Speaker 1: casters out here. All this damn crime. Stop all that
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, specifically black men.
Speaker 4: Stop all that damn crime.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: You know, like, it's a time and a place for everything.
Speaker 1: I'm not one of those dudes who subscribe to the
Speaker 1: concept that men should not cry. I'm not that dude.
Speaker 1: But there's a time and place for everything, and we
Speaker 1: have to learn to control our emotions. If that's two
Speaker 1: things that a man must control in order to operate
Speaker 1: at his optimum, it is his emotions and his penis.
Speaker 1: We gotta learn to control that. If you can do that, man,
Speaker 1: you can.
Speaker 3: Rule eight hundred five eight five one oh five. One
Speaker 3: will take some more calls.
Speaker 2: It's to breakfast Clogo morning, the breakfast club, the breakfast club.
Speaker 4: Your morning's will never be the same morning.
Speaker 2: Everybody is DJ NV, Charlamagne, the gud. We are the
Speaker 2: breakfast club. Now if you're just joining us, we're talking
Speaker 2: about this video that went viral about this man that
Speaker 2: we're on a date.
Speaker 1: It was his first day.
Speaker 2: He brought flowers. He got stoed up, he was crying.
Speaker 2: Will he d said, well, he shouldn't have brought flowers.
Speaker 2: Flowers is too early. You don't understand why, right, So
Speaker 2: we're taking your calls. Eight hundred five, eight five, one
Speaker 2: oh five. One of course WILLI did is our guest
Speaker 2: co host this morning Me shit, good morning, me shit,
Speaker 2: good morning, good morning.
Speaker 3: What's your thoughts? Misha like he was wrong for bringing
Speaker 3: her flowers?
Speaker 6: It was nothing wrong with that?
Speaker 3: Or you don't see nothing wrong with that?
Speaker 8: No, flowers are not expensive and it's a good gesture.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think as long as they're not roses, I
Speaker 7: think it's cool. What if you would have brought her
Speaker 7: brought her a pair of red bottoms? That's a little
Speaker 7: too far, that's wow. I like sweet flowers seven to
Speaker 7: ten dollars bottoms of a committed might be like, yeah,
Speaker 7: but what woman ain't going to accept those red bottoms?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: But I wouldn't do that. That's it, that's doing too much.
Speaker 7: Because I'm a woman. I'm looking at do you do
Speaker 7: this all the time? You just randomly give people red
Speaker 7: bottom flowers a.
Speaker 1: Little randomly, just give people flowers.
Speaker 7: Flowers are different tho, because you can just give them
Speaker 7: a person just because you want to light up their life.
Speaker 1: Flowers are a sentimental gesture. Being sentimental to a woman
Speaker 1: should be earned. It should be something earned. If you
Speaker 1: give her to give it to her too fast, she's
Speaker 1: not going to appreciate it. The same thing with you
Speaker 1: don't pay for the meal, give it to it too fast.
Speaker 1: We're not you don't pay for the meal, pay for
Speaker 1: the meal. That's you know what I'm saying. I would,
Speaker 1: I would do that. I mean, I mean, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm old school in the sense that that that that
Speaker 1: I do believe that men pay for everything. Women are
Speaker 1: h paragamut. You know what I'm saying, Like, I believe
Speaker 1: in that. Mad you know, I'm cool with that. I
Speaker 1: have no problem with that.
Speaker 3: And it was going on, good morning morning, Matt, what's
Speaker 3: your thoughts?
Speaker 1: Brother?
Speaker 8: Hey, so, first of all, everybody flowers, I'm not vering
Speaker 8: her flowers on the first day, and first of all,
Speaker 8: I'm not thinking. And then if we're gonna go to
Speaker 8: a coffee that or something like, it's a talk and
Speaker 8: get to go each other in the pumping space if
Speaker 8: you're safe, and that's it. Before I got married, every
Speaker 8: day that I had we went to Barnes and Nobles.
Speaker 8: We could see what kind of books you're in, and
Speaker 8: if you want a coffee, I got your head the
Speaker 8: stone bus. That ain't nothing bee, and then.
Speaker 4: I liked going to Night's Day afterwards. I'm gonna be
Speaker 4: honest with you. I think that's more. I think going
Speaker 4: to Barnes and Nobles is very intimate.
Speaker 3: But you but you know what.
Speaker 2: The guy also said he was talking to her for
Speaker 2: the last two weeks. I guess on the phone.
Speaker 3: I guess he was. He gave the initial conversations.
Speaker 2: He said he was feeling around to see what she liked,
Speaker 2: but she didn't like, so he was already doing the
Speaker 2: initial conversations.
Speaker 7: I hope some of y'all keeping notes, because I you know,
Speaker 7: even though Willie did, I think bringing a woman flowers
Speaker 7: on the first day is cool, but also that Bonds
Speaker 7: and Nobles thing is dope. Meeting a woman that bonds
Speaker 7: and nobles and y'all just having a conversation that bonds
Speaker 7: and noble, y'a can talk about what kind of books
Speaker 7: y'all like and stuff like that. That's that's cool and
Speaker 7: it's very cost effective. What's the moral of the story, Oh,
Speaker 7: the moil of the story?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 7: I really want y'all to listen to me, because you
Speaker 7: know everybody's looking for somebody.
Speaker 4: I understand that, So please listen to me. Please, are
Speaker 4: y'all listening?
Speaker 7: Okay, just because you haven't found the right person doesn't
Speaker 7: mean you will not mistake