1 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: And BBSM A little as someone who takes on a 2 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: childlike or submissive role in a power exchange dynamic called 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: age play. This involves role playing where participants adopt different ages, 4 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: such as an adult caregiver and a child. The caregiver 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: provides nurturing, guidance, and protection, while the little typically portrays 6 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: a younger age, often that of a child or a teenager, 7 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: and may engage in behaviors or adopt mannerisms associated with 8 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: their age. This type of relationship is typically based on trust, content, 9 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: and clear communication between all parties involved, and involves elements 10 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: of discipline, playfulness, and exploring innocence and vulnerability. Today, my 11 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: guest would be sharing her personal journey as a little, 12 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: and she has a mommy on board with us. 13 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: Y'all. 14 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: So to my guests, how are y'all doing? How you feeling? 15 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: Let's go with the door the first. How you doing doing? 16 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: Good? Good? Okay, good? Everything's good. I love my dynamic all. 17 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: I love. 18 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: Being a little. It's it's really it's actually really good 19 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: being a little because you get to wait, hold on, hold. 20 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: On, let me ask your mother how she's doing. First? 21 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: Hold on? She ready to go? 22 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 23 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: Hello, el mommy, how you doing? 24 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: I am doing good. Thanks for asking. 25 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: Before we begin with your journey as a little were 26 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: you always interested in the BDSM community before you became 27 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: a little NF So what drew you to this lifestyle? 28 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: I would have to say no. Before I was into 29 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: just being Spain. That's what I was into being before 30 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: until I met my girlfriend. And my girl girlfriend, I 31 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: was telling her some things that I liked in relationships, 32 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: I like to do and she was like, oh, you're 33 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: a kinkster. She's like, I want to be a little 34 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 2: you don't. This is like it's okay, And I'm like, well, 35 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: I heard these terms before, but I've never want to 36 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: be them Because I go to a sex therapist and 37 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: we talk about those things. We opened that up, but 38 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: we've never like literally like dwelled into those things, talking 39 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 2: about like what each category was, until like I was like, 40 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: I like this. I think I want to be a 41 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: little I think I actually want to do this. Like okay, 42 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: so I've been a little for al once eight years 43 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: going on nine years now. 44 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: Oh wow, what were some of the things that you like? 45 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: I am baby, fine. My age range is from zero 46 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: to two, so I like that bonding stage, sitting on 47 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: your lab having my hair played with. Now, Mommy, take notes, 48 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: please do take notes. Oh, I know I like drawing 49 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: and coloring and ganging. 50 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: I like a little too, because I like those things too. 51 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: You might be I love like I'm not into like 52 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: stuff animals. I'm not into stuff animals. I like pacifiers. 53 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: I like bows. I'm twenty seven years old and I 54 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: still wear boats like I go to work with the 55 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: boat I show mommy I have my bows. I actually 56 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: go to work with bows and stuff. I'm Alila and 57 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: a stitch fan. I like baby dolls and barbies, so 58 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: I did still play with baby dolls and barbies. I 59 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: might to go to the store like I like to 60 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: go down to like the kids. 61 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: I'll you like to be carefree, like you like to 62 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: indulge in things. 63 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: Right. She would eat pizza rolls three times a day 64 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: if I had let her do that. So yeah, right? 65 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: And also, I know you work at a daycare. So 66 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: does that help you like go connected to you being 67 00:03:59,040 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: a little. 68 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: Yes, it always has. Yes, it makes me feel I 69 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: play all day like I had k through second For 70 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: a long time, I did infants and toddlers, and that 71 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: made me feel more connected to two year olds too, 72 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: because like, I like the brady side of being a 73 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: two year old, but I also like like the inquisitive side, 74 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 2: the loving side of children and how children are like 75 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: children are not like us when we get mad at somebody, No, 76 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: I don't want to be your friend anymore. Kids are like, oh, 77 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 2: I want to be your friend again. Like they're more 78 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: loving and nurturing and want to do things and want 79 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: to go places. Because I like that side. Adulting is 80 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: just hard after I adult. This is my reward. 81 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, adult in is ghetto child. Now, where are some 82 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: other factors that contribute to you being so connected to 83 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: the little identity my trauma. 84 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: I went through a lot in my life with my parents. 85 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 2: I was opted, so my biological mother died on my 86 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: graduation date from high school. I never got through. Yeah, 87 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: I never got to meet her. My me and my 88 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: biological father we have someone in a relationship but don't 89 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: really have a relationship. So me not knowing who my 90 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: mom is like never meeting her or getting that connection 91 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: with her mommy gives that connection to have with her 92 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: and being around other kids get that connection. Like the 93 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 2: trauma the things that I went through also in my 94 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: childhood is just like being a little like heals that 95 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 2: inner child. She's healing something that I've always needed to 96 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: be healed. 97 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: Right, Wait, how did you find out if you didn't 98 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: have no relationship with your your biological mother? 99 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 2: Who told me my father and boxed me on Facebook? 100 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: And when I called him, he told me drunkenly that 101 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 2: my mother had died from AIDS and she's in the hospital. 102 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: I knew nothing. Wow, nothing, knew nothing for years. And 103 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: he came up until me, like over the phone, He's like, 104 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: and guys, guess what you know? You're related to me. 105 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 2: Your dad's your cousin, so the guy, but my adoptive 106 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: parents who have been raising me for years. I found 107 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: out that my dad's not my dad. My dad's my cousin. 108 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 2: And he then fore told. 109 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: Me that, Wait, so you don't know who your dad is? 110 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: I know, well, now I know who my dad is 111 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: because he had Boxton. Oh got it. 112 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: God is to the person who was raising you. You 113 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: thought that was your dad, but come to find out 114 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: that was your cousin. 115 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, my biological cousin. 116 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: Wow. So mommy, when you heard when you heard her story, 117 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: how did this make you feel? 118 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: Well? My Princess had reached out to me about five 119 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: months ago, and I had no idea she had even 120 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 2: studied me. She had been looking through my tweets going 121 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: as far back as two thousand and nine when it 122 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: came to searching for a mommy doll, and she had 123 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 2: told me in the past about her experiences with two 124 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 2: two that I know that didn't work out for her. 125 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: And when she told me about her history, which is 126 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 2: different because this is something that she probably wasn't okay 127 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: with opening up or she probably didn't know of the aftermath, 128 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: how I would feel about how she opened up and 129 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: just hearing her story about how she was adopted, things 130 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: about her biological parents, things about her adoptive parents, it 131 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: didn't run me away. For some reason. I think it 132 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: was her approach, because she was really serious about her 133 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: intentions of finding a mommy dom and the one that 134 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: would suit her best, and the fact that she did 135 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: disclose that in the past. It has been rough trying 136 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: to find that connection that she was looking for. And 137 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: previously I had sworn off littles. I had never had 138 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: a little before. However, I had interacted with littles, and 139 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: those littles they gave me not a long impression or 140 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: a stereotype, but they weren't ready to receive the type 141 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: of mommy dom that I am. So when she reached 142 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: out to me and told me what her her intentions 143 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: was everything about her, including her upbringing, including any type 144 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: of mental health issues that she was experiencing, what she 145 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: has done, what she has accomplished, it made me feel 146 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: like this person had their head on straight and that 147 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: she was pretty much not using kink in the form 148 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: of hiding away from her vanilla problems but only to 149 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: help her but the Fanoen problems that she's having. So 150 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: it made me. It didn't make me apprehensive. It may 151 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: be like pretty much like welcome her, because I'm like, Okay, 152 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: this is someone who is not only a little but 153 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: this is someone who is an adult and has their 154 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: head on straight and they know how to go back 155 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: and forth between the dynamic between vanilla and kink in 156 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 2: order to make sure that they are efficient in both areas. 157 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: And that's something that I was looking for. I'm not 158 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: asking for anybody to be perfect, but what I am 159 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 2: asking is for someone to go ahead and try and 160 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: that she set herself from the littles that I had experienced. 161 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: Now, wait, daughter, how many moms have you had before 162 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: you met mommy? 163 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 2: Woo, We're actually like like list, don't say yea, but 164 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: it was a number, but numbers you want numbers off 165 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: the top of my head. I can say I have 166 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 2: talked to twenty off the top like, I like literally 167 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 2: went through list of like Okay, today, we're going to 168 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: do five, Tomorrow, we're gonna do this five. 169 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: And then like but you was like interview and now yeah, yeah. 170 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: Much yeah hmmm, seeing what does that expect from me? 171 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: And then when I found mommy, I liked her content. 172 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 2: I like the way that she talked, I liked the 173 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: way she did things. And I literally sat down and 174 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: studied her. I took like two days and I was like, 175 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: she got two thousands of nine suld be said thousands 176 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: of tweets about herself. I want to see her. I 177 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: want to see like what sessions do I didn't want 178 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: to see like anything that she did with anybody. I 179 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 2: want to see her mindset and where her mindset is 180 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: for me. 181 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: Look, mommy is proud. 182 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: I sat down and did that, like okay, Like and 183 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: in school, I was never a steadier. I was never 184 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: like something like I want to actually be like, no, 185 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: I hated homework, but this was homework for me. I 186 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 2: got to figure out who this person is. I want 187 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: to know there who they are, because you know, we 188 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: read people text messages and like you be like okay, 189 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: but when you read their tweets or stuff for other 190 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: people to read, other people in the world to see, 191 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: you sit down and be like, Okay, let's see what 192 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: type of feedback she's given a whirl, Like, let me 193 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: see what comes out of her mouth. 194 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: You want to get a sense of her. 195 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, let me see if she's able to leave me 196 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: and guide me by what she says out of her mouth, 197 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: because I'm I'm looking up to her and she's looking 198 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: down to me. So whatever comes out her mouth when 199 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: downwards is going to spew into me to text me jessus. 200 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: From like two thousand and nine, I looked at like 201 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: where she was and how she came, like where she 202 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: was as a person in two thousand and nine into 203 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, and like that's a lot. Yeah, And 204 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 2: back in two thousand and nine, I wasn't even in 205 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 2: the king community then. I was only twenty by Twitter 206 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 2: had started out as a vanilla account, and even when 207 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: I had gotten to kink in twenty twelve, it was 208 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: still a vanilla account because I was afraid of how 209 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: people would react, what they would think could be at 210 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: that time. My account didn't turn dark into about twenty twenty. 211 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: That's how long he was looking at me from a 212 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: point of view of someone who was a regular, average 213 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: person through my tweets. And I'm not talking anything about 214 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 2: BDSM up until like maybe the tweets are in twenty 215 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: twenty around the pandemic, right, So it was interesting to know. 216 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, Dann, you can watching me to head off 217 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: like you are in a good way. 218 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good thing you especially when it 219 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: comes to something that's per is your space and your 220 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: well being. You want to make sure you have to 221 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: write people around you that's going to give you exactly 222 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: what you need. So I think that's amazing. 223 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: I was like, I want to know, like and then 224 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 2: when I got into her tweet so when she got 225 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: into the lifestyle, then I started to look like, look 226 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: at sessions and things she did with people, how she 227 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: talked to them, how she approached them. How is she 228 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 2: different than the the mom that I have The relationship 229 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 2: with my mom. And it's totally different because it's something 230 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: that I've always wanted. And when I started to look 231 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 2: at her keen tweets, it was like, okay, yeah, cook 232 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 2: line and singer. I mean, if I had the tribute, 233 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to keep this one in my life. I 234 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: don't care. Let's do it. And she reached out. She 235 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: was just like, do I have to tribute anything? And 236 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 2: I'm like no, Like she literally sent me like a 237 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: few paragraphs and I took the time to like literally 238 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: read it, and I'm like, oh wow. I'm like, this 239 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: is someone really with their head on their shoulders, not hey, 240 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 2: I'm looking for a mommy or I need a session. 241 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: It's just like no, she introduced herself. She told me 242 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 2: about herself and how long she's been in a lifestyle, 243 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: and she told me what she wanted and what she 244 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 2: had to for me. And that literally secard apart from 245 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 2: anybody because because it's a switch it's a switch off. 246 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: A lot of people don't realize that doms have lives too. 247 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: Doms have needs, don't have once doms have dombs have 248 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: stuff that they eat, and as a sub for me, 249 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: I just feel like that I have to make sure 250 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: that if you're making sure I'm good. I got to 251 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: make sure you're a ge. 252 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: Need to be beneficial for both parties, correct, both for 253 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: all parties involved. So how do you go about finding 254 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: How did you go by finding her? 255 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: Like? 256 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: Did you because did you use hashtags? 257 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: Or like Twitter? She was on someone's tweet, she made 258 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: a tweet like a subtweet or something of someone, and 259 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: I was like, I like her, thinking let's see what 260 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: else she thinks about, Like I like this. 261 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: But how did you find the other mom mom the same? 262 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: Or Facebook? Instagram? Some of them knew my dad daddy 263 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: Dom and my daddy Don is also a female. They 264 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: would we had made posts. I'd started making posts about it, 265 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: putting my pictures and stuff out there, and some of 266 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: them would like inbox and be like, hey, y'ah, I 267 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: know you're looking for a mommy dom. And I'm like, okay, 268 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: what can I offer you? And what can you offer me? 269 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: Like what, I'm going to put all my baggage on 270 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: the table and then you can accept my bagage and 271 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: accept me for who I am. We can go for it. 272 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of them wanted money. A 273 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: lot of these mommy doms. I'm putting it on the record. 274 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: They want money. They want the cat, they want the 275 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: money for it. They could care less about your emotional needs, wants, 276 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: or desires. They want money for it. One of Mommy, 277 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: one of Mommy tech well, one of her statements that 278 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: she put on toilers that he doesn't need your money. Correct, 279 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: So you don't need my money. But I know that, 280 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: like so that that made me feel comfortable that she 281 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: doesn't need my money. A lot of them that make 282 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: posts and stuff, they tell you they want your money, 283 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: they want your honey, they want. 284 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: Describe your relationship with your mom, because I feel like 285 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: when people hear this conversation, or people who are vanilla, 286 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna automatically think sexual. But I don't get sexual 287 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: from y'all. Like I really do get a relationship between 288 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: two people that is very beneficial and that's helping each 289 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: other out in different areas of each other's lives. So 290 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: describe your relationship with her and your desires and expectations. 291 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: As far as with my mom that I live with, 292 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: No mommy, okay with me, all right, So the relationship 293 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: I have with mommy is non sexual. It's non sexual. 294 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get sexual from y'all. 295 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: But have we been asked? Yes? Yes, we are just 296 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: a normal every day like mother and daughter. This is like, 297 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: you know how we do things. I ask for permission 298 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: to go places, do things. I don't care what she's doing. 299 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: I will pick up the phone and be like, hey, 300 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: can I go here? Can I do this? Before I 301 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: walk out? Because I be where I had a mammy dumb. 302 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: I was so used to just eating what I wanted 303 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: to eat, getting up and going where I wanted to go, 304 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: acting the way I wanted to act. And it's not 305 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: like that anymore. Like now I have structure and discipline 306 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: and like roadblocks before I hit the nailbank, I actually 307 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: have to like I have somebody be like, hey, wait, 308 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: did jax me? 309 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: Did you see how you asking for permission for everything? 310 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, all the way down to spend the money. Because 311 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: I have a habit of when I'm mad, I'm going shop. 312 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: I'm one of McDonald's. And she's like, yeah, no, you're 313 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: not just. 314 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: Going to go. 315 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: No, We're talked about like no, like I had to 316 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: be broken out of a lot of things, which is 317 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: like she said, my eating habits for horrible. I wasn't 318 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: even booping when I met her. 319 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: Oh wow, I was like, I had to are you 320 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: pooping out? 321 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: Hell? Yeah, okay. I ended up happening to get a 322 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: colonosky Like it was that bad with her, like, oh wow, 323 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 2: you had to set up like no need you need 324 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 2: either you need fruits any veggies every day. This isn't 325 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: all funny. Get mcdonals like NOI rolls and she's like, 326 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: look like like I have bad times. I have her like, 327 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: you know, to get up. But she has got ant 328 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: like she's gotten to know me so well, so like 329 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: she know olds my habit. So if I'm lying or 330 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: if I'm like tired, she knows I'm online, Like she 331 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 2: has all my stuff, she knows. It's a literally a 332 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: mother daughter relationship as if we live in the same 333 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 2: house together, the same house change like we act as 334 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: if like she pretty much she had me birthday. 335 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: I know that you've been in this lifestyle for you 336 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: said eight nine years. How have you and mommy been together? 337 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: Five months? Five months? 338 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: Oh wow, you could have fooled me child life. 339 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: You get that, We get that. 340 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that also speaks to Mommy's character. For somebody 341 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: to feel so comfortable within a short amount of time 342 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: because that's a lot of trust there. 343 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: It is, it is, and I have trust issues. And 344 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: she makes me very well aware or like assure me 345 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 2: that I'm not leaving you. I'm not we're not doing that. Well, 346 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 2: I'm here, I love you, I understand you. She makes 347 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 2: me feel comfortable enough to talk to her and you know, 348 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: be able to express how I feel or like I 349 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 2: have a load of triantual load of baggage. She's like, okay, 350 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: let's talk about it, Like, let's let's see why you're 351 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 2: feeling this way, how you're feeling this way, not just 352 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 2: you know a lot of mommy doms that I have 353 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 2: interviewed or talk to. Oh well, you're gonna tat me 354 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 2: this week, or oh well, you know I have this 355 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: to do, Like no, shoot, mommy will put down. Okay, 356 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: give me like an hour, I'll call you back. Let's 357 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: talk about it, right, Okay, that's what's wrong. I didn't 358 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: even I didn't even take any sort of monetary tribute 359 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: or donation for like maybe like a month and a half. 360 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, I was doing everything like because I 361 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: knew what she had been through and I knew her 362 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: path trying to find an appropriate mommy don so it's 363 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: just like the last thing I'm gonna do is gonna 364 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:34,479 Speaker 2: go ahead and ask her for a monetary contribution. But 365 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 2: I needed before she acts like we did giving yeah, 366 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 2: because she has a life, just like I have a life. 367 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 2: She has a life, and she she has needs some 368 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 2: ones that she needs. And once now, do I require 369 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: her to give me stuff? No? Do I ask her no? 370 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 2: Because that's not my job. That's not her job. That's 371 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 2: my job. My job have my shap together so that 372 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 2: she can have her shap together. If she wants something, 373 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: I give it to her. 374 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: Well, Jordan, how old are you when you are being 375 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: a little Yeah? Why too? 376 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: I like that age. There are two year olds are 377 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 2: that's terrible too, exactly two years old. They're terrible, but 378 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 2: they have that sweet incent type of behavior where it's like, oh, yeah, 379 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: I know, I just picked my pants, but I love 380 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: you right like yeah, like you know, like I know 381 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: I just knocked off this stuff off the table, But 382 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: don't you. 383 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: Love me like right? 384 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 2: But it does not work on her like that does that? 385 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: I'm telling you that. 386 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: But I'm just curious. There's something because I know you 387 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: mentioned that you had a lot of trauma in your 388 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: during your childhood, the something happened to you at the 389 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: age of two for you to regress to that age. 390 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, mine, I was a foster home. I was in 391 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: a Jewish foster home. So I didn't keep that. I 392 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 2: didn't get that time with my parents. I didn't get 393 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: that love and care that I needed. I didn't get 394 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 2: that right. I was adopted at three. My parents, the 395 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 2: parents that I live with now, adopted me when I 396 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 2: was three years old. So from like zero to two, 397 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 2: like I didn't I was in a foster round with 398 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: plenty other. 399 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: Kids right as soon as she was born. 400 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I came out the gate into a foster 401 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 2: So I like that age. I like being able to 402 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 2: just sit down and be a kid for a while 403 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: and and at that time. But I also know how 404 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: to click it on and click it off, like if 405 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 2: we're in front of people, were around people, or like 406 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: you know, we're on the phone and it's like, okay, 407 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: let's have a serious conversation. I know how to like 408 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 2: have a serious conversation then be like okay, like hey, 409 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: like you know, right. 410 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: But wait, is this your voice, your daughter's voice, or 411 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: this is your actual voice? Because I know sometimes people 412 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: put on, know, yeah. 413 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 2: I actually talk like a little like sometimes I actually do, 414 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 2: and then like, but you're hearing my extule adult works 415 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: like yes. 416 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,239 Speaker 1: Come on, daughter, give us a little voice, give give 417 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: us a little voice. Oh my god, don't let me 418 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: get to acting out. 419 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 2: Come on, I can I help you out with that? 420 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: None of this podcast. I yes, shine Maggie right now. 421 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 1: Yes, But is this something that's like automatic, like if 422 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: Mommy actually do something, then it's like the voices come on, yeah, yeah, child, 423 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get this voice out of you. Come on, mommy, 424 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: I need your help. 425 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 2: My voice usually comes out when I have to be 426 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: serious and I'm like, prinstance, I'm very disappointed in you, 427 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: and then the water works, wellcome automatically, she hates when 428 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: I'm disappointed. It usually does not happen a lot, but 429 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: when it does, she's usually ventilating and going crazy at 430 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: that point. But if you, if it helps, you can 431 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: go ahead and close your eyes and the vision how 432 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: you read me? Every morning at almost a crack of dawn, 433 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: it's like I give her like like oh yeah, let 434 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 2: don't call, but I give her in the morning, and 435 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 2: normally she gives me that a good morning, like like tired. 436 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: Mom, don't want to be bothered, like. 437 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 2: Girl vibrant super early and I'm wiping off the crust 438 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: oude of my eyes at this point, and I'm just like, hey, 439 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 2: baby girl, like right, how many times I have pauled? 440 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: And she's like almost, I'm putting on. She's getting out, okay, 441 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: waiting Princess Mommy is just getting up. Like I'm like, Mommy, 442 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 2: what are you doing. She's like I literally just woke up, 443 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 2: like okay. But she never yells. She never screamed. No 444 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 2: great impersonation of mommy. She never yelled. She never raised 445 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: her voice. She will literally be like I was like, 446 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: I'll tell her, like, mom, I really just I really 447 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 2: don't feel veggy ish. She's like, Okay, you don't have to. 448 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: It's okay, it's fine. If you want another colonoscope, it's 449 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: fine to go ahead. We can get another colons coupee. 450 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 2: That's fine by me. Just like me, oh my god, 451 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: She's like, well, I guess pretty vegetable today. 452 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yourself. 453 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 2: She hit me the day and was like I want 454 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: a donut, and I'm like, okay, you can have to donut, 455 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: but that means you won't be able to have any 456 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 2: other sweets for the rest of the week, and she's just. 457 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: Like, never mind, never mind, I don't want to do that. 458 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: Now. I'm like, what's wrong I do that with her? 459 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: Like if I feel like I like, I'm not dumb, 460 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 2: Like if I feel like Mommy's tryna like hook line 461 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: and sinker me, I'm like, yeah no, she'd be like, yeah, 462 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: you can have mcdoubles. 463 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: But why a head. 464 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, never mind, right, hey, look you can have it. 465 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna cook something we got in the house. 466 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 2: I don't even want it at this point. 467 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: So do you see the relationship relationship between you and 468 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: mommy evolving over time? And so what does that look like? 469 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: Oh? I see it along like longevity, Like once we 470 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: locked in, the ain't gonna switching up, right, I see 471 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: that with her, and everybody sees the difference, the change, 472 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: the happiness, and the like me doing everything that I 473 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: need to see. Like people see that, even like therapists, 474 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: like I see it. I see a therapist and they're like, 475 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: she's really really good with you, Like we wish she 476 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 2: would have been in your life the times that you, 477 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: you know, didn't want to go to therapy, didn't want 478 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 2: to get up, didn't want to do what you're supposed 479 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: to like case workers, Like a lot of people see 480 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: the change. They're seeing the change. 481 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: That's what's up. 482 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 2: I'm really happy for you. 483 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, So how do you define the balance between power 484 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: and authority within y'all? Dynamic? 485 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 2: We talk, We talk everything out. Everything is literally communication 486 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: and talking. I always ask her, are you comfortable doing this? 487 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 2: Are you okay with this? If you're not, then we 488 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 2: can do something different. We could try something different. What 489 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: do you want me to do? What are your needs? 490 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 2: What are your wants? What are you suggesting that we do? 491 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 2: And she lets me know how she feels and she 492 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 2: does the same thing with me. She's like I sometimes 493 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: when you know something's on Bamy's mind and she's been 494 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 2: thinking for she like I've been thinking, and I'm like, 495 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: oh shit, what I do now? Did she facebook late 496 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: night like well, like okay, I'm gonna get in trouble. 497 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: And she's like, no, I'm just thinking that we can 498 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 2: try this, or we can do this, or I can 499 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: buy you this, Like I could tell like I'm gonna 500 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: have a lot of the low stitched stuff, a lot 501 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 2: of toys, Like when I come to see her in August, 502 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have like tons of stuff to play with 503 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: and like, I like being collared and I like having 504 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: like you know her name, Like I could tell that 505 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: it's going to be like World War One, like tons 506 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 2: of stuff and lots of love and care because she 507 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 2: treats me like I'm her real child, Like I like, 508 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 2: she popped me out and I love that. 509 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: Listen. So we had a conversation because she has her 510 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: own episode coming on coming out talking about being a 511 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: professional dominatrix, and one of the questions I asked her, 512 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, so I know you have a daughter, 513 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: and it seems like she's like very supportive, and I 514 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: was like, how do you balance that with your friends 515 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: and family? And she was like, well, no, I don't 516 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: have a daughter. And I'm like, what do you mean 517 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: you don't have a daughter. I'm like, I see her 518 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: comment and you underneath your comment posting and she love 519 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: you mommy. So that's when she broke it down, and 520 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, yeah, my fuck, because I'm like, 521 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: you do have a daughter. I saw her comment. But 522 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: then I was like, because we all are, like we're 523 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: in the same age group, and I'm like well, wait 524 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: a minute, I know black done crack, but something ain't 525 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: looking right. 526 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm twenty seven, I'm right, yeah, yeah, prety much right. 527 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: So mommy, how has this relationship being beneficial for you? 528 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: Oh? My goodness, A princess has definitely been a godsend. 529 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 2: I'm not even talking about what she does for me 530 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: and minitary. She has taught me a lot about patients 531 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: and she has pretty much assisted in the boost that 532 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 2: I needed to in order to take on them mommy 533 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 2: don position, because at first I was just like, uh, 534 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: I'm a tet towards littles, like I'm an auntie like 535 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: out to me in an auntie farm. I've never like 536 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 2: felt like motherly. But with just felt like naturally to 537 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 2: care for her, and it made me softer. It definitely 538 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: made me more feminine. It made me more confident in 539 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: my role as a mommy don, especially because I can't 540 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: think about just me anymore. I have to think about 541 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: me another individual, and in her little age she can't 542 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: think for herself, and her adult age she can. She 543 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 2: has autiomy over her thoughts and feelings, and I mean 544 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 2: in her little age. I give her that grace too, 545 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: but it she has benefited me just by being someone 546 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 2: who is open enough to talk to to. I had 547 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: not had any experience being a mommy don to a little, 548 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: So I'm still learning her and I'm learning how to 549 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: sharpen my skills and my technique as a mommy. Don 550 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 2: Does she want any siblings? Now? Do I want any? 551 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: I would just like to ask, you, can mommy have 552 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: more than one child? Baby? 553 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: She is not going for that, and I don't want 554 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: another little. I don't think I can find anybody that 555 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: would be comparable to me smile. She makes me laugh, 556 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 2: She lets me be myself. She lets me take the 557 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: load off, like she knows that I work a stressful 558 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: job of another job. But she calls and texts me, 559 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: and even though I'm just like, what do you want 560 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: to do, I'm I'm happy to hear from her. It 561 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: is very It's a breath of fresh air hearing from 562 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: her because I know her intentions are pure and you 563 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: need those types of people, and I don't think these 564 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: types of connections come around often, right, right, So I 565 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 2: feel like she was like definitely in destined to be 566 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: sent to me, and I'm like, I don't know how 567 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 2: the heck she found me, But I'm glad that she did, 568 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: and I'm glad that I was just like, you know what, 569 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: I'm just going to be open minded to it, because 570 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 2: not all littles are the same. And it made me 571 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: appreciate the fact that I was able to step into 572 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: something new and actually enjoy it rather than just saying 573 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 2: I'm not doing that, so I. 574 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: Really enjoy it. 575 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, she made me feel really open minded and it's 576 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: something that I'm definitely compassionate about. Her first thing was 577 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 2: after she accepted it, She's like, oh, oh my gosh, 578 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: this outfit and that outfit I wanted to transform. I 579 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 2: did not want to wear any sort of latex or 580 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: PVC clothing or lingerie or leather boots or anything. I 581 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: was just like, I have to be like my mom. 582 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: Now I have to cater to this individual and I 583 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: cannot look like I'm servicing just any old client. I 584 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: want the Stepford House five dress. I want to And 585 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 2: I'm really good at putting makeup on, like I love makeup, 586 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: love getting my hair, and now was done. 587 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: And may Yeah, because somebody thinks you a makeup artist, Yes, 588 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: makeup artists. So y'all hear that? In her episode when 589 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: it comes out, and. 590 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 2: So she wants said, look, you want to look like 591 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: a mommy on the paper for it, Like yeah, bearing none, 592 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 2: like a mommy. I'm gonna pay for it. You want 593 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: to reach out to the friend be like, hey, do 594 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: you need anything? And I'm like, no, I think I've 595 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: got done. So she said, well, I'm I get paid 596 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 2: this day. You need to write down what you need 597 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: for me within these days so I can have it 598 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 2: and I can remember it. Like She's on top of 599 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: shit even before I even have to like remind her 600 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 2: sometimes get it out of me to ask me what 601 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 2: I need because I'm just so like no. It worked, 602 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 2: like I'm good, I'm good, baby girl. She's just like no, 603 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 2: but this is what I want to do, So I 604 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: let her do it. 605 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: Listening, y'all gonna be having people thinking that they kids 606 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: supposed to be paying them to helping them out with 607 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: bills and stuff. Y'all doan't me having people making them 608 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: making their children get a job. Chill. 609 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: She has been doing her big one with me and 610 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 2: in her personal life. Tell her, tell her what you 611 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: just did over the weekend that was oh yeah, see 612 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: I have not drove like I've been down to high 613 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: school for like years. Now right, driving was like one 614 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: of my big like I'm actually driving and I'm scared. 615 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 2: I went to driving school. I actually have my driving permit, 616 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 2: so I'll be switching over to get driving license. I 617 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 2: paid her car off. Okay, so she doesn't have a 618 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 2: bill to page. So I paid her car off, and 619 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: then the next week aphabet I went and bought me 620 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 2: a car. I was like, I'm gonna actually do this 621 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: and drive and beg okay, come on getting princess treatment. 622 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm gonna let my parents take me. 623 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 2: I'm not driving, and right. We talked about it and 624 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 2: she was like, yes, it's about that time, right, So 625 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 2: now I drive. 626 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: I'm just curious door to Do you want kids? 627 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 2: No, not at the moment. If I find a good 628 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: guy that it's okay with, you know, having kids and 629 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 2: understanding that, or if he has step kids. I've been 630 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 2: in relationships with guys that has kids. I don't mind 631 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 2: being like a step parent. I'm a teacher and I 632 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: teach them. I taught many kids for ten years. I've 633 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: been teaching for ten years, so no, I have way 634 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 2: too many God kids, I've got children and real kids. No, 635 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 2: not right now, A don't now. I mean you're still 636 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 2: young though, of course, of course. 637 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: But mommy, you want kids, right. 638 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 2: I'm not sure yet. I feel like I'm comfortable, and 639 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 2: I'll be thirty four this year. There are still some 640 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 2: things that I want to do in my life before 641 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 2: I think about bringing my child into this world. I've 642 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 2: always felt like antie, but now with me having a 643 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 2: little I'm like, okay, so this is like not a 644 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 2: full crash course in some motherhood because she is an 645 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 2: actual adult human being. I said, but this gives me 646 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 2: an idea of what it looks like. It's not going 647 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: to be just about me anymore. Someone is for me, 648 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 2: waking me up before I'm eaving up and telling me 649 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 2: that hey, like I need attention. So this is teaching 650 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 2: me about patients. Having kids would be cool if I 651 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 2: were ready to settle down and do that, but now 652 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: I'm not ready to. 653 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: Now I think I still got some more years. I mean, listen, y'all, 654 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 1: both for young. All of us are young, so listen, 655 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: we have some time. 656 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 2: Okay. 657 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now I know that you have a dad dominant. 658 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: How is that relationship with your dad dominant? And how 659 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 1: is it as a as a family. 660 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it's it's different because Daddy gets to 661 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 2: take a break now, and like. 662 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: It's not take a break where Daddy yet Daddy. 663 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 2: Gets Daddy's in Ohio. I live in Florida, so I 664 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 2: travel between both domes, which I will be doing. But 665 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 2: I've seen Daddy and I used to live with Daddy 666 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 2: for like a month. I wanted to I want to 667 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 2: crash for crash, a crash course and what a real 668 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 2: dom lives like. So I went to live with her 669 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 2: for a month. I went on my job, told my job, look, 670 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 2: I won't be here for a month. I'm going to Ohio. 671 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 2: I flew out for a month. I lied and told 672 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: my parents I'm going on some work retreat and they 673 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 2: believe me. You wasn't scared. No, I flew my first time. 674 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 2: I got on a plane for the first time by myself. 675 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 2: She got me off the flight. Her and her family 676 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 2: was so loving and welcome. I am like a step 677 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 2: mom to her. I was when he was seven, he's thirteen. 678 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 2: Now she's been in my life for eight years, so 679 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 2: I've been I take care, I love and care for 680 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 2: my Also my first term that experienced like wow, mommy 681 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 2: because I tribute to her. I make sure she I 682 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 2: actually paid pay a bills with her, and I make 683 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 2: sure things are done. I don't care how many jobs 684 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 2: I gotta get. I'm gonna make sure you took the 685 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 2: care of a point blank period. That dynamic with me 686 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 2: mommy and daddy is lack a real family. She will 687 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 2: not give me my way into Well, let me ask 688 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 2: your mother what. 689 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: I need it. 690 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 2: I don't need it. If you got to ask her 691 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,919 Speaker 2: for it, it's gonna be a deaferen No, I don't 692 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 2: need it. 693 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: But when you want to go, before you continue, when 694 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: you want to go stay with her and her family? 695 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: What did her family say? 696 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 2: Did they know your family? Actually? She called her kids 697 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 2: that she's a dog. My dom sat down and told 698 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 2: her kids, look, I'm a dog. This is what I do. 699 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 2: She used to put her kids to bed and then 700 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 2: go in the neighborhood and dominate on a lady that 701 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 2: wanted to be spainked. She would let her oldest daughter 702 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 2: watch her kids and she will go out and do 703 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 2: what she needed to do and come back home. She's 704 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 2: she older, Yeah, she's fifty fifty year old. 705 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: Why are you dating? Is your relationship with her dad. 706 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: Is that sexual? 707 00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,240 Speaker 2: Yes? 708 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, let me find out about your daughter out 709 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: there and playing no games baby, right. 710 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 2: So I live with her for a moment. Her kids 711 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 2: were her seven year old we have not like really 712 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 2: disgusted disgusted. So at seven years old, it was kind 713 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 2: of like what is all that noise in there? Like 714 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 2: what is going on? So I had to break it 715 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 2: down to him that I'm his mom's special friend. Is 716 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 2: she white, she's mixed, she's black, and they never make American? 717 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: Okay now her. 718 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 2: Then husband but not her husband, but the stepdaddy did 719 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 2: not like our relationship. He still does not like our relationship. 720 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: But can you blame him though? 721 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 2: It is what it is. I mean, if you're not 722 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 2: getting shipped down, I might as well. 723 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: Not a real nigga pulling up baby. 724 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was just likes for like a year and 725 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 2: then I was like, listen, if I'm paying. 726 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 1: Bills right here for like yo. 727 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, I live with her for like a month, 728 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm cool with that. I'm cool 729 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 2: with this. I can like this, I can do this, 730 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 2: and took care of her her kids. I showed her 731 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 2: I'm the type of person I like to show you 732 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 2: what you got before you decide you want to go 733 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 2: and pick something else. I actually met her on the 734 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 2: foreign website. Me connected and talked and I looked through 735 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 2: her profile, her stuff, I talked to her, I sat 736 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 2: down and got to know her. And then like maybe 737 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 2: six months later into our relationship, I was like, I'm 738 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 2: gonna come live with you for a month. I want 739 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 2: to see what you're made of, Like what you got right? 740 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 2: All right? I got this. So I fell in love 741 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 2: like it was accident. That was an accident. Falling in 742 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 2: love with her was a total total accident. We did 743 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 2: not mean for that. Man. She was supposed to be 744 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 2: my dom my mind. She was my mommy don before 745 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 2: my daddy dom. Daddy dom issues can do in the 746 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 2: bedroom and outside the bed room. And I was like, 747 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 2: I want you. 748 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: To be my mom mommy's face right now, I. 749 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 2: Want to do my daddy dog like I want you 750 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 2: to be daddy. I want you to dominate me. You 751 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 2: know what you're doing on the daddy's side. I can 752 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 2: find a mommy like, we can do that later. I 753 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 2: want a daddy don. So she became my daddy dom 754 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 2: and like it's just been that was a freaking accident. 755 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: She was like one day she was like, look, I 756 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 2: think I like you more than you like me. And 757 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,919 Speaker 2: I was like, yep, I do too, and we just 758 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 2: like fell in love and didn't love every since. 759 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: Now I got two questions, and Mommy, don't feel away. 760 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: I'm just asking because I'm playing Devil's advocate. How do 761 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: you daughter? How do you know that these relationships are 762 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: as genuine as you say they are? 763 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 2: Like how do you communication? 764 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 1: Hmm? 765 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 2: If I have to sit down and talk to a 766 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 2: person over the phone, text message can only go so much. 767 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 2: I want I want to look at them and I 768 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 2: want to see their body language. Like with Mommy, I 769 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 2: automatically wanted to FaceTime because I need to see her 770 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 2: body language. Yeah, because energy don't lie exactly. That's how 771 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 2: I knew, Like, yep, she's the one. Let's close up 772 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 2: thingsbook block everybody that's like I still everybody, I still 773 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 2: get People got to be like, oh, are you looking 774 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 2: for a mommy dom? Nope, Block, Like I'll sober, I 775 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 2: sober everything, but they know you're. 776 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: Looking for mommy dom. You on the platform somewhere. 777 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 2: I'm still in Like groups that were in and they 778 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 2: they probably seen the post I posted, and I'm like, Okay, 779 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm not taking it down. I have 780 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:52,919 Speaker 2: a mommy dom so it doesn't matter. And if they do, 781 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 2: like you know, I've had one person. Oh you said 782 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,919 Speaker 2: on the post you're still looking for mommy dom. Yep, 783 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 2: but I have one now delete block and which whatever? Right? 784 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: But now my second question is you don't think that's 785 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: too much to be telling the kid about you getting 786 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: spanking his mama dom and all this other stuff. 787 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 2: No, you know, we bring out the bag. We brought 788 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 2: out of the bag like he knows, he knows what. 789 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 2: She has gone back too. And I was like, you 790 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 2: got to move bag. 791 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: She has gone back, ye, mommy, how do you feel 792 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 1: about that? You don't think that's too much for a 793 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: kid to know? 794 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 2: In my personal opinion, and I want to say that 795 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 2: black parenting, especially black parenting, is not a mind of it. 796 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,720 Speaker 2: I probably like, if I had a child, I probably 797 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,280 Speaker 2: would have been like, you know, that's just Mimmy's special friend, 798 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 2: that's all. Probably when he got a little bit older. 799 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 2: But he is a very smart kid. He is not 800 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 2: the average little child that you would think. He's thirteen now, yes, 801 00:42:54,440 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 2: and he knows everything like, that's very understanding. He was 802 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 2: very understanding, and yep, yep, he's very understanding, very open minded. 803 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 2: Now he does not know about the relationship that me 804 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 2: and her have, like a sexual relationship, but he knows. 805 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 2: Like one day I got in trouble and Daddy told me, 806 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 2: she's like, listen, at six o'clock in the morning, better 807 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 2: have my son ready dressed, teeth, brush, and out the door, 808 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 2: ready for school. At you on the bus at seven. 809 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 2: I was so scared. I had that boy ready at 810 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 2: five o'clock in the morning. And remember the episode from 811 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 2: Good Times when they took the guy from the alley. 812 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: And made him a tour. 813 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 2: That's how I had that man. He's like, he's like 814 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 2: one o'clock in the morning. Listen, I ain't gonna ask 815 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 2: before you better get up. He was so he was 816 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 2: so tired. I literally brush his teeth while he was sleeping. 817 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 2: I was like, listen, I gotta brush your teeth. It's 818 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 2: five o'clock in the morning. You know, as you get 819 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 2: off right on the buts out the way. She was 820 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 2: to dominate me, spank me, and we would have our 821 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 2: little time everything before three o'clock. So when he left 822 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 2: me and her would come down. I would be almost 823 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,399 Speaker 2: like I would cook her breakfast. I would bring her 824 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 2: you know, drinks, whatever she wanted, serve her like a 825 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 2: child with everything. We would do everything that we wanted 826 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 2: to do by three o'clock. But if I acted up 827 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 2: in front of her kids, she'd give a damn. She 828 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,879 Speaker 2: would beat me in front of her kids. She did 829 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,959 Speaker 2: that one time, like what she'd beat the dog should 830 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 2: out of me for disrespecting her in front of her 831 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 2: kids because I thought I could in front of her kids. 832 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: You know what's so interesting about this because I feel like, 833 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 1: especially with Mommy, right, I feel like with Mommy and 834 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: just interacting with her the few times that we have, 835 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: I feel like the reason why you thrive so much 836 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: in this lifestyle is because it's giving me something that 837 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,839 Speaker 1: you never have with the stability, which is family, which 838 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 1: is support. Because I feel like you really enjoy it, 839 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: which I can tell you really do, because I feel 840 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 1: like a certain part of you it's finally getting the 841 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: healing that you deserve. Yes, very correct, Yes, because I 842 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 1: can tell you that this this is your ship, this 843 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:09,959 Speaker 1: is your bag. 844 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have fun, I actually have fun. I have 845 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 2: a lot of fun now. 846 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: Are there any hard limits or activities that are off 847 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 1: limits for either one of you in this dynamic. 848 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 2: We're not having sex. Don't peg me, We're not we're 849 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 2: not tagging, correct. I don't do like ship. I would 850 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 2: never ship in a pull up like I were pull 851 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 2: up because you know it's fun whatever, like kids underwear. 852 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 2: I'm not shitting in it, You're not. I would. I 853 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 2: would like literally like grow a lot. Yeah, she's like 854 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 2: put around looking like what you do? You know? 855 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't see mommy doing that. 856 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 2: I'll think about it. I'll think about pissing. No, that 857 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 2: is no limits as well. 858 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, and we know how you feel about ship mommy. 859 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we are both on like off board. Like now 860 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,400 Speaker 2: I have to say, like I'm not into flogging, like 861 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 2: the typical things that she do with her other clients. 862 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 2: Now that I'm learning more about that prodom side and 863 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 2: like you did what you well, And she's like, princess, 864 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 2: let me explain something, so she really break it down. 865 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, now I was like, those are my heart limits. 866 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 2: The stuff she does with other clients are my heart limits. 867 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 2: Like I have a whole different book and I have 868 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 2: to actually, you ain't gonna be doing that to me right, like, yeah, no, never, 869 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 2: And I'm like, I. 870 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 1: Don't get that from y'all adult, Like I don't get 871 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 1: like I feel like when you speak about your dad 872 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 1: compared to mommy, I feel like it's two different types 873 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 1: of energies. 874 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,280 Speaker 2: Yes, it is. Mommy is one of the disciplenarian Daddy 875 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,720 Speaker 2: will actually instead of Daddy being daddy, we've given daddy 876 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 2: the backseat because Daddy has did it for age, like 877 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 2: she's been holding it together for eight years, and now 878 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 2: that mommy's here, Mommy is more of the like disciplinarian, 879 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 2: the one that be like, no, Daddy, she cannot have 880 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,760 Speaker 2: ice cream at three o'clock in the morning. Like she's 881 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 2: the one that be like no, like like, are you 882 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 2: serious right now? Right? Like she will take it. Hey, Mommy, 883 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 2: can I have like a centiment roll? And I'm like, 884 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 2: you can have one or two? She was just like, 885 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 2: but it has eight in the pack. I'm like, that 886 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 2: doesn't mean you need to eat eight. And then I 887 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 2: will have her take a picture or we'll get on 888 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 2: fake time and she will cook it and then put 889 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 2: the rest away and I'm like, hey, what about them 890 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,799 Speaker 2: cinnamon rolls? The other day do you still have the 891 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,399 Speaker 2: same amount that I told you to have? Like, I'm 892 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 2: very much on her when it comes to that, and 893 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 2: my brother turns around and eat them and I'm like, bro, 894 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 2: I needed that for forevidence, and he's like, Bro, I'm sorry. 895 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 2: I was hungry and like bro, like really like, my 896 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,479 Speaker 2: parents are not supportive of my life style. 897 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: But before you get there, so we I want to 898 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,399 Speaker 1: ask you some ques that. But Mommy, do you like Daddy? 899 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:08,240 Speaker 2: I do? I do. It's a little bit hard because 900 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 2: we live in different states, like she's in Ohio and 901 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 2: I am in Georgia. So when we do family time, 902 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 2: we'll get on either like Facebook, Messenger, like do a 903 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 2: video call with all of us together, or will FaceTime 904 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 2: each other. We've actually disciplined Princess that way before and 905 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 2: had her stand in the corner for about an hour. 906 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 2: But I do like Daddy. I do like the fact 907 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 2: that she is able to take a back seat in this, 908 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,439 Speaker 2: especially since she has been doing this for so long. 909 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 2: We definitely have different styles of parenting and personalities and 910 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 2: stuff too, But I do love Daddy and I do 911 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 2: cherish her, especially as an authority figure figure for her, 912 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 2: and she's actually a really good person to speak with, 913 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 2: especially regarding BDSM and the dynamic. Like she's very heavy 914 00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 2: on high protocol and discipline. 915 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: So this is cool, Like y'all the gift that keeps 916 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 1: on giving. Set that up for me, mommy and daughter. 917 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 918 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: Now, I feel like when people hear this conversation or 919 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 1: when you have these discussions about the lifestyle that y'all live, 920 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that you encounter a lot of misconceptions 921 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: or stereotype about being a little within over outside of 922 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 1: your community. And if so, how do you address. 923 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 2: Though, that's my mom and people are like, you know, 924 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 2: it's kind of like panophileist. No, that's my mom. We 925 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 2: ain't doing nothing sexual. That's like I've had to tell 926 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 2: people off like that's my mom, Like, no, there's nothing 927 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 2: in between the lines. Don't you have a mom? They'd 928 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 2: be like yeah, yeah, yeah, I was like I got 929 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,360 Speaker 2: one too, that's my mom, like right, And then on 930 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 2: what people like, so you're little really like gives you money, 931 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 2: like and like pays for your hair and nose and 932 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 2: patch your craws, Like I want someone that's like that. 933 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 2: I'm like no, because submission is earned and unless you 934 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 2: have done something or contribute to this person's well being. 935 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about just because you want to 936 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 2: receive something. I'm talking about you are pretty much responsible 937 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 2: for a whole another person and their mental, physical, and 938 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 2: emotional well being. Then you don't get the privilege in 939 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 2: order to be a mother down to anyone and anybody 940 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 2: in this lifestyle, especially littles and subs. They've been in 941 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 2: this lifestyle pretty much longer than you, so they will 942 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 2: pretty much know when you are in this for the 943 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 2: money or if it's some sort of ulterior motive that 944 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 2: you have, Like, these people require more care than anyone 945 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 2: else in my opinion, because of the age play that 946 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 2: they have. There's littles, there's middles like, there's teenagers like, 947 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 2: and they have different needs. So the needs of one 948 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,919 Speaker 2: little is definitely going to differ between the other one 949 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 2: and depending on exactly depending on what type of background 950 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 2: that they have actually have, you're gonna have to hater 951 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 2: that experience so that it's a dynamic between you two 952 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 2: and it's not universal. It has to really be something 953 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 2: that is dedicated to that specific person, and that takes 954 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 2: a lot of time. It takes a lot of patience, 955 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 2: which a lot of people don't have a lot of 956 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 2: people are in natural caregivers right, and when people hear 957 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,800 Speaker 2: our stories and stuff, they automatically try to I've been tried. 958 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:30,720 Speaker 2: I've almost kidnapped twice, kidnapp who by people They want 959 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 2: me as their sub or they want me as their submissa, 960 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 2: they want me as their little. They will underhandedly try 961 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 2: to have a conversation with me or her and be like, 962 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 2: oh this, your little does this, or like, you know, 963 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 2: trying to be sneaky and ask questions that they know 964 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 2: knowingly they're not acting for good intentions. They're asking for 965 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,880 Speaker 2: like bad intentions to try and get me from you know. 966 00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 2: They'll reach out to her, oh can you teach me 967 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 2: to be a mommy domarsh of like no, but you 968 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 2: can talk to my mommy dom about you know, her 969 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 2: domination one on one. Don't do that in the attempts 970 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 2: to try to get the experience of doming this person, 971 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 2: and it just be like, hey, well, since I've been 972 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 2: doing this for so long with you, might as well 973 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 2: go ahead and make an official And it's just like 974 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,839 Speaker 2: my little already knows where home is. I'm not worried 975 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,359 Speaker 2: about her switching up or you're in influenced by anyone else, 976 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:24,799 Speaker 2: but people out here will try it. 977 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 1: Now, Mommy, we know that people think that you're a 978 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,320 Speaker 1: makeup artist. So, daughter, do any of your close friends 979 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,840 Speaker 1: or family knows about you being a little and if so, 980 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 1: what are the thof on your identity? 981 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 2: Yep, I've had My family does know. My parents do know, 982 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 2: and they're they're not. My family is okay with it, 983 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 2: but they don't like it. They think it's kind of 984 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 2: pantasied wish. How did they find out they don't like it? 985 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 2: I had to break it down and tell my mom like, 986 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,319 Speaker 2: she's like, why are you taking all these trips? So 987 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 2: why do you have all this like white? 988 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:09,239 Speaker 1: Why? 989 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 2: I just order? Like, Mom, I'm a little. I like 990 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 2: to be spanked. I like to be I like to 991 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 2: be handled like a child. I like that bonding, that 992 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 2: one on one time that she can't give me, so 993 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 2: somebody else is giving it to me. I told her 994 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 2: strap like that and she wasn't okay with it, but 995 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,720 Speaker 2: she accepts it because she feels like maybe that's healing 996 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 2: my trauma in some type of way. So she's understanding now, 997 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 2: but she's not. She doesn't like it, but she understands it. 998 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 2: But my job, a lady on my job had said 999 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 2: something to me along the lines of can you come 1000 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 2: and do this with me? I was like, no, I 1001 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 2: have a DOM. I can't do that what she wanted 1002 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 2: you to do, like, hey, you gout with people. I 1003 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 2: asked for permission before I do certain things. And my 1004 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 2: boss looked at me and was like, you have a 1005 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 2: What I said, I have a dom. I have a disciplinarian. 1006 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 2: I've asked my mommy before I'm allowed to like come 1007 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 2: and hang out and do things with other people because I. 1008 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 1: Just don't know. They was probably looking at you like no. 1009 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:11,320 Speaker 2: Actually, my boss was very interested. She was like, what 1010 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 2: what else do they do? 1011 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 1: Like correct and they. 1012 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 2: Don't judge me. My job is do we don't talk around. 1013 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 2: The kids don't ever talk around, but we do and 1014 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 2: privately they be like, oh my gosh, like this is 1015 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 2: like cool, like you got somebody to hold you accountable. 1016 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 2: How job loves it. Like they'll even like say hi 1017 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,320 Speaker 2: to Mommy, like if I'm on clubhouse with her or whatever, 1018 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 2: and I'll be like, oh, Malik's ander, and malikiuld be 1019 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 2: like hi. Like the guys they understand it. They are 1020 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 2: very okay with it. They know I have a mommy done. 1021 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,439 Speaker 2: They know that they've heard her voice before and said 1022 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,360 Speaker 2: hi to her. They they're okay. 1023 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: So how do you navigate the transition in and out 1024 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 1: of the little headspace? 1025 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 2: Like? 1026 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 1: Is that hard for you? Sometimes? 1027 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 2: Now it's fine, it's different. It's like, Okay, you're a 1028 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,319 Speaker 2: little when you need to be a little and banded. 1029 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:07,759 Speaker 2: You're an adult when you need to sit in an 1030 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 2: adult mm hmm. So when I need to be an adult, 1031 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 2: I don't talk as an adult. Do what I gotta 1032 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 2: do so that I can quickly become a little and 1033 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 2: enjoy my time. 1034 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,840 Speaker 1: Right, And is it hard for you to balance everything 1035 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:30,000 Speaker 1: between your career, your life, everything you have going on 1036 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,359 Speaker 1: in your personal life, and also on your life style. 1037 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 2: No, because I've been doing it for eight years. At first, 1038 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,320 Speaker 2: it was like the first year it was like damn, 1039 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 2: this is hard, right, what am I doing? Like? But 1040 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 2: once you find purpose in what you're doing and you 1041 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 2: start to love what you're doing, it's like I could 1042 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,319 Speaker 2: do this. I've been doing it for eight eight nine 1043 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 2: years with my daddy, so I knew what mommy to 1044 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 2: be easy? Like right, it's cool, Okay, Like. 1045 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 1: Now, in what ways have been a little provided comfort 1046 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,840 Speaker 1: or helping hope with the emotional challenges associated with losing 1047 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 1: your mom. 1048 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 2: That I have a mom like, I feel like God 1049 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,800 Speaker 2: furposely like brought her to me to be a mom 1050 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 2: to me that I needed. So she gives me the 1051 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 2: comfort and reassurance that everything's okay. And I'm a dramatic child. 1052 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 2: And every time I talk to her, she's like, it's 1053 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 2: you're fine, you're not dying, but you're fine, You're going 1054 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 2: to be okay. I'm like, well why, She's like, you're fine, 1055 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 2: You're going to be okay. And she gives me that 1056 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 2: reassurance that real mothers do that. But when I got 1057 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,640 Speaker 2: can't do that, she can't like navigate with my feelings. 1058 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 2: This one does. This one gives me like the feelings, 1059 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 2: the love and the understanding that I'm right. 1060 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 1: I feel like the mom that you have y'all not 1061 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 1: really close for y'all, No, we're not. Yeah, I can tell. 1062 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 2: I don't get that, like, m we're not. We are 1063 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,319 Speaker 2: on some level, but other levels like this not. She 1064 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:15,959 Speaker 2: doesn't really have feelings and connect intimacy, Yeah, but mommy don't. 1065 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 2: She gives me all all that and more so I'm like, yeah. 1066 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: Right, I can ask, now, if your mom was the lie, 1067 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 1: would you would would you be open to have a 1068 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 1: next conversation or have some type of relationship with her? 1069 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,360 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, and I would tell her about mommy. Yeah, 1070 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 2: I've heard my mom. Mom. Biological mom is a really 1071 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,440 Speaker 2: nice person, so I'm pretty sure she'll be understanding of 1072 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 2: what I like. 1073 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,080 Speaker 1: Right, and what is your relationship with her dad? Now, 1074 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 1: your biological dad. 1075 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 2: My dad lives in Tampa and he's a listed pedophile, 1076 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 2: so I have no conversations like oh wow, and he 1077 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 2: has schizophrenia really bad. So it's hard to talk to 1078 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 2: somebody that doesn't know fiction from reality and type of people. 1079 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,120 Speaker 2: Just have to be careful about what you say and 1080 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 2: how you say it because. 1081 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 1: You don't know what can trigger them. 1082 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,640 Speaker 2: Yes, I do speak to him once a month and 1083 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 2: I check on him to see how he's doing. But 1084 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 2: otherwise than that, there's really no relationship. 1085 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,320 Speaker 1: Like you know, I don't really know you that well, 1086 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 1: but I'm want to say, I'm really proud of you 1087 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 1: because you you've been through some shit, and you know, 1088 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,240 Speaker 1: to see where you at now, you look very happy, 1089 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 1: Like I can tell that this is a healthy relationship 1090 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 1: with you and mommy, like, because I know in life 1091 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 1: it's not really it's not easy trying to navigate do 1092 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 1: all this shit that life. Those that are so, I'm 1093 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 1: really happy for you. 1094 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, You're welcome. 1095 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 1: And what is your advice you would give to others 1096 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 1: who have experienced similar losses in art or are exploring 1097 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,480 Speaker 1: being a little as a form of healing a coping mechanism. 1098 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,240 Speaker 2: Do it. Go ahead and do it. It's like the best 1099 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 2: thing ever, Like I wake up happy but been happy. 1100 00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 2: Once you find the person that has that that gives you, 1101 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,800 Speaker 2: like you know that clicks with you, It's like the 1102 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 2: best thing ever, Like once you find that person, once 1103 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 2: you find your person and you and your person clicks, 1104 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 2: it's fun like it. I love it. 1105 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,760 Speaker 1: And Mommy, you have any advice for those who may 1106 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 1: be in a similar situation as your daughter. 1107 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 2: For anyone who is thinking about being a little, I 1108 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 2: would say, go ahead and embrace it. If you are 1109 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 2: searching for a parent or a big or in this 1110 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 2: case like a mommy dom, definitely study them. Look at 1111 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 2: their social media profiles, look at what they are saying 1112 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:45,680 Speaker 2: in their most intricate thoughts. When they're not in scene. 1113 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 2: Ask good questions like why is submission paramount? Why is 1114 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 2: consent paramount within this dynamic? What this submission means to you? 1115 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 2: What do you have to offer as a mommy dom 1116 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,480 Speaker 2: to a submissive? These types of questions go way further 1117 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 2: than how long have you been in the BDSM lifestyle 1118 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:25,200 Speaker 2: because but not everybody who's in this lifestyle can be 1119 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 2: a caregiver. Like when people say, oh, I'm a dom, 1120 01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,760 Speaker 2: that's a very important job. What type of d type 1121 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 2: are you? Are you a sayist? Are you a mommy dom? 1122 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 2: Are you affectionate? Like? What are are you a high protocol? 1123 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 2: There are different types and sometimes those can go ahead 1124 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 2: and interwine in order to see what type of dynamic 1125 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,680 Speaker 2: that you would be able to present or represent yourself. 1126 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 2: But it's important to know who you are are and 1127 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,640 Speaker 2: as subs, especially since they're on searches for a parental figure, 1128 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 2: you really have to really vet and make sure that 1129 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,840 Speaker 2: the person that you're interested in is right for you 1130 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,960 Speaker 2: and suit your needs too, because your needs are definitely important. 1131 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 1: Well, I thought this was a very insightful and amazing conversation. 1132 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 2: Me too, right, I like this as I'm very proud 1133 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:20,840 Speaker 2: of her. This is her first time like speaking on 1134 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 2: a podcast. 1135 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 1: Yes, thank you so much. Daughter. You know I do 1136 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 1: have one more question for you. So where do you 1137 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 1: hear mommy from Mother's Day? 1138 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,960 Speaker 2: Oh? Man, well, she could get them aside or I 1139 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,280 Speaker 2: actually did she want flowers for Mother's Day? I was 1140 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,760 Speaker 2: gonna do an edible arrangement and send it to her house. 1141 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,920 Speaker 2: But since you know, grandma don't know much, I want 1142 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 2: her to open a gift and eat it. So I 1143 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:51,800 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I have Tommy and story eating. And 1144 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 2: then she's like, oh, I thank you for the edible arrangement. 1145 01:01:54,680 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 2: Then you're gonna be sendactic mh you ate my edible? Now? 1146 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,600 Speaker 2: Would you be mad with your mama? Low KEI like, yeah, 1147 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 2: remember that mother say at the ble arrangement, I don't 1148 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 2: want you to be mad words. I had to figure 1149 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 2: that out. But she's definitely getting a Mother's Day good form. 1150 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 1: But mommy, you know you're going to have to tell 1151 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 1: your mama about something real soon. 1152 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 2: Probably once I am out of the house. 1153 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 1: And well, yeah, that makes. 1154 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:31,640 Speaker 2: Sense the city as much as yeah, I will, And 1155 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,120 Speaker 2: I know she's probably gonna go ahead and run her 1156 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,120 Speaker 2: mouth to cousins or aunts, and they're gonna be like, well, 1157 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,760 Speaker 2: we already knew you were just the only person who. 1158 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,480 Speaker 1: Didn't, right, Like girl, catch up? 1159 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:47,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, but I know eventually have to have this 1160 01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 2: conversation and I don't know how it's gonna go, but 1161 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 2: I'm just preparing for the worst. She's not gonna do. 1162 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 2: I think she's just gonna think I'm away now and 1163 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,000 Speaker 2: I don't think anything. I listen here because I'm in it. 1164 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,320 Speaker 2: But this is coming from somebody who was like in 1165 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 2: their sixties, who goes to church, and who's going to 1166 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,600 Speaker 2: look at this as the eyeball in like, where do 1167 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 2: you do? And this is a much so I'm not gonna. 1168 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 1: I must say this conversation was very insightful. So I 1169 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 1: definitely want to thank daughter and mommy for coming on 1170 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 1: a show because I think this was a very amazing conversation. 1171 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,920 Speaker 1: But before we leave, I do want to take a 1172 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,920 Speaker 1: moment to acknowledge those who have lost their moms. Mother's 1173 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 1: Day can be a tender time for many, and I 1174 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 1: just want to send my love and support to all 1175 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:39,160 Speaker 1: of those who carry the bittersweet memories of their beloved 1176 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:43,520 Speaker 1: mothers in their hearts. Remember Helling comes in different forms, 1177 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,920 Speaker 1: and the mom dom Little dynamic we explore today is 1178 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,680 Speaker 1: just one example of how individuals find solace and growth 1179 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 1: within the BDSM community, whether you identify as a little 1180 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,920 Speaker 1: EG caregiver or simply just navigating your own unique path. 1181 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,920 Speaker 1: I hope that this episode has shed light on the 1182 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:08,720 Speaker 1: power of vulnerability, trust and love and our journeys towards healing. 1183 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 1: So if y'all have any questions, comments of concerns, please 1184 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,680 Speaker 1: make sure to email me at Hello at the phgpodcast 1185 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 1: dot com. And until next time, everyone Later, bye Dorby. 1186 01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:30,000 Speaker 1: You're not gonna say bye bye. The Professional Homegirl Podcast 1187 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,960 Speaker 1: is a production of the Black Effect podcast Network. For 1188 01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:37,600 Speaker 1: more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, app a podcasts, 1189 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,280 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Don't forget 1190 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,280 Speaker 1: to subscribe and rate the show, and you can connect 1191 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 1: with me on social media at the PGD podcast