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Speaker 1: That's what people say, all of it.

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Speaker 2: And you listened yesterday you said, huh.

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Speaker 1: I did I did? Just briefly.

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Speaker 2: Did you argue with yourself?

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Speaker 1: I was offended by myself?

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Speaker 2: That's even better.

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Speaker 1: Uh So we're going to talk to Jay Bieber now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, and as Yelsa Gona Times does it,

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Speaker 2: they like to pose stories. This is about the speed cameras.

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Speaker 2: K Newsom did sign the bill to start speed cameras

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Speaker 2: in a number of cities around the state. And they

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Speaker 2: found the story of a woman and it's really horrible.

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Speaker 2: A woman named Trina Newman hyphen Townsend. But you know,

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Speaker 2: she is a recently wed. I mean, this is like everything.

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Speaker 2: A recently wedded, sixty two year old pastor, mother of two,

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Speaker 2: foster mother of five, grandmother of eleven, just into a

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Speaker 2: pajama gift exchange and she was hit by a speeding

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Speaker 2: driver and it's a terrible tragedy. I feel very bad

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Speaker 2: for the for the family. But that's how they start

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Speaker 2: the story, yes, which basically favors the speed cameras.

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Speaker 1: Because what they what they do at the LA times

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Speaker 1: is emotional manipulation. What happened, They got.

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Speaker 2: To find the best possible victim they can to head

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Speaker 2: the story.

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Speaker 1: Somebody run over, except that that driver was doing more

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Speaker 1: than speeding. They were driving recklessly. They weren't paying attention.

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Speaker 1: They could have driven at half the speed and still

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Speaker 1: killed her because he wasn't driving in his lane. His

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Speaker 1: car had veered off enough to clipp her as she

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Speaker 1: came out of the car, And so that that is,

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Speaker 1: that is attention.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe he was drugged up, maybe he was drunk,

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Speaker 2: maybe he was angry, maybe he was distracted and he

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Speaker 2: was playing with his UH with his UH phone or

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Speaker 2: his iPad or something now, but that's got nothing to

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Speaker 2: do with the speed, because you could kill somebody easy,

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Speaker 2: you know, at twenty miles an hour so or thirty

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Speaker 2: miles an hour.

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Speaker 1: It's not the speed is. The placement of the car

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Speaker 1: is the issue.

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Speaker 2: But let's bring on Jay Bieber, executive director of Policy

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Speaker 2: for the National Motorists Association, And of course we've talked

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Speaker 2: to them about speed cameras and red light cameras years

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Speaker 2: ago before that. So let's see what can be done

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Speaker 2: about this, Jay.

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Speaker 1: How are you.

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Speaker 4: Well? Everything sucks?

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Speaker 1: Everything sucks. I'm with you on that, all right. For

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Speaker 1: people who are hearing about this for the first time,

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Speaker 1: and there are many explain how this new intrusive law

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Speaker 1: is going to work in their lives.

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Speaker 4: So here's the way the bill is written. The cameras

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Speaker 4: can be placed in three basic basic locations. One will

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Speaker 4: be where they've already lowered the speed limit unnaturally to

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Speaker 4: not match the operational speed of the roadway, a previous

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Speaker 4: built by the same author, Laura Friedman, who at the time,

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Speaker 4: by the way, she wasn't interested in cameras. Then yeah

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Speaker 4: she lost you. Yeah, and the and then the other

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Speaker 4: thing is supposedly to catch people who are street street racing, right,

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Speaker 4: except that those people aren't going to have any concern

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Speaker 4: a couple of you know, a couple of weeks later,

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Speaker 4: and you know, the damage is already done because that's

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Speaker 4: you know, that's dangerous at the time that it's happening.

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Speaker 4: Plus it's not just gonna ticket for them everybody in

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Speaker 4: though there's no rate street racing going on, those people

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Speaker 4: in those neighborhoods will all get tickets. So somebody street

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Speaker 4: we're gonna put a camera here, you're gonna get ticketed

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Speaker 4: all day long everybody else. That's who's actually going to

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Speaker 4: get the tickets right, and then school zones right. And

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Speaker 4: then school zones is the third place, which is again

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Speaker 4: it won't be just when the school zone is an effect,

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Speaker 4: it'll be twenty four to seven in anywhere around the school,

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Speaker 4: which is pretty much everywhere. But they only they have

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Speaker 4: a limited number of places they can place this under

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Speaker 4: the under the pilot program, they have like one hundred

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Speaker 4: So, but I mean, you know, the whole thing is

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Speaker 4: about generating revenue. Of course, they're saying it's to save lives.

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Speaker 4: And the story that you told is incredibly tragic, and

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Speaker 4: you know, the person who did that, you know, deserves

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Speaker 4: the highest penalty that's appropriate for for for that. But

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Speaker 4: that's not who's going to get these tickets. It's you

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Speaker 4: and I and everybody else who's just driving the way

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Speaker 4: the lower speed limit was in effect or whatever.

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Speaker 1: The people who drive recklessly or drive drunk or drugged

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Speaker 1: camera because they're they're they're their brains are already compromised in.

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Speaker 4: Some way, right right. The really dangerous drivers we kind

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Speaker 4: of call those the outliers, the people that that we notice,

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Speaker 4: like the people that are driving recklessly, they're cutting in

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Speaker 4: very common. I know he likes to think, well, you

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Speaker 4: know there's a lot of crazy drivers out there. Well,

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Speaker 4: it's only because you remember the crazy drivers. You don't

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Speaker 4: remember all the thousands and thousands and thousands of people

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Speaker 4: you could pass every day. They're doing nothing wrong. But

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Speaker 4: those people are the dangerous people. But that's not who

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Speaker 4: these cameras are going to target. The vast majority tickets,

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Speaker 4: just like with the right with the red light cameras,

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Speaker 4: is the vast majority of tickets are going to be

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Speaker 4: for mickey mouse violations and you know, remember with the

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Speaker 4: red light cameras, it was fraction of the second violations

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Speaker 4: when nobody was around. And it's going to be the

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Speaker 4: same sort of thing with these cameras.

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Speaker 2: Well, could it suffer the same fate? Could it suffer

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Speaker 2: the same fate as the red light cameras. There a

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Speaker 2: way that we can get rid of these in the future.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, the city council has to adopt it.

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Speaker 4: That's the first thing. So so I mean, if the

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Speaker 4: stop it. Because while it authorizes it, it doesn't mandate it, right,

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Speaker 4: So that's that's number one. Number two is once people

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Speaker 4: start getting these tickets, of course they're going to get upset.

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Speaker 4: But you know, unfortunately a lot of people are cheap

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Speaker 4: maybe even more important, is are people going to hold

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Speaker 4: the people responsible for implementing this accountable? They rarely do.

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Speaker 4: Lore Freedman is going to be running for Congress, and

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Speaker 4: the people that are in that congressional district should know

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Speaker 4: that she's the one who put this out there. Now,

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Speaker 4: probably that election will come before the tickets start flowing,

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Speaker 4: but they should be aware that this is you know,

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Speaker 4: this is her doing. These are these are low Freedman

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Speaker 4: ticketing cameras, and they and people should hold her accountable.

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Speaker 2: And what are they gonna supposed to do with the money?

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Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing about the money. So so there's

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Speaker 4: a convoluted section of the bill which supposedly says that

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Speaker 4: they have to use the money to do roadway improvements.

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Speaker 4: But roadway improvements are all.

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Speaker 5: The vision zero nonst road diets, yeah, which is road

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Speaker 5: diets and and bike lanes, which, by the way, there's

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Speaker 5: a study out there that has shown that if you

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Speaker 5: put in bike lanes, people go faster because no one's

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Speaker 4: Have a perception of being able to drive faster faster.

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Speaker 4: So the actual, So all of these things that supposedly

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Speaker 1: I drive the bike lanes. So sometimes sometimes, you know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you have a bike lane and you have a

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Speaker 4: Well, let me let me say that. They just also

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Speaker 4: passed the law and the governor signed it to ticket

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Speaker 4: autom with automated ticketing. So you know, this is not ending.

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Speaker 4: And here's here's the thing. Whatever people who might be

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Speaker 4: listening to this might think of, you know, yeah, we

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Speaker 4: idea for some kind of violation that's you know, really

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Speaker 4: you know, really dangerous. It's not to stop those people,

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Speaker 4: some way. The question you have to ask yourself is

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Speaker 4: what kind of society do you want to live in.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they have bus stop cameras, they have bus

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Speaker 1: Oh you know, I knew this was gonna havelate you.

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Speaker 2: When they first started with public cameras, I thought, this

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Speaker 2: recorded somewhere and can be used against us. Living in

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Speaker 2: a surveillance state is not fun because now they're going

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Speaker 2: to charge you for everything that they decide you've done.

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Speaker 4: Wrong exactly, and they get to decide what you've wrong,

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Speaker 4: And you want to hear something really scary and it's

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Speaker 4: almost Halloween, so let me let me scare you some more. Okay.

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Speaker 4: There is a camera that is deployed in Great Britain

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Speaker 4: right now, which they're calling the Everything AI camera, and

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Speaker 4: that camera can peer inside your car using AI technology

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Speaker 4: and determine everything you're doing wrong in that car. So

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Speaker 4: if you're not wearing a seatbelt, you're looking at your phone,

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Speaker 4: you're eating, you're drinking, whatever they determine is a violation

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Speaker 4: that will Those cameras can surveil you twenty four to

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Speaker 4: seven and ticket you for every little thing that you

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Speaker 4: do wrong. And again, every one of these little things

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Speaker 4: you can say, maybe it makes a little sense here

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Speaker 4: or there. The question is do you want to live

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Speaker 4: in communist China and North Korea or do you want

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Speaker 4: people are reasonable people and they're not ticketed for every

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Speaker 4: little minor violation that they use throughout the The next

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Speaker 4: thing will be cameras for putting your trash cans out

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Speaker 4: too early.

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Speaker 1: Most drivers who cause the damage are the outliers you

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Speaker 1: talked about, and they can't be intimidated by cameras. They

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Speaker 1: are They drive fast because they're intoxicated, they're drugged up.

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Speaker 1: They're just young and reckless. They were raised badly by

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Speaker 1: their parents. They're angry and that's why they do what

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Speaker 4: That is that is true. And the thing is that again,

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Speaker 4: the vast majority of people. I mean, if you think

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Speaker 2: Jay Bieber, Executive director of the Policy of the National

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles Long Beach in Glendale can install the cameras

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Speaker 2: This also good to time story on the speed cameras

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Speaker 2: real zinger there at the end. For years, US states

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Speaker 1: That is the socialist progressive mindset point at some naggy

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Speaker 2: In other words, other countries that irritate the crap out

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Speaker 1: Most of the people who get run over late at

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Speaker 2: The other angle they took was, uh oh, the ACLU

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Speaker 2: So the bill actually cuts the fine if you're under

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Speaker 1: The street racers are in Boil Heights, they're not in

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Speaker 1: They declared a fake crisis. They know exactly who's doing

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Speaker 2: And as we put it out before, the ticket goes

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of good stuff. Will update you now

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Speaker 2: You're well aware of his uh his day.

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Speaker 1: It works. Oh yeah, Oh, there's a Biden cam. You

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Speaker 2: It was a failed Islamic jihad blast. The enemy rocket

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Speaker 1: What's what's more radical than beheading babies.

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Speaker 2: Hundreds of Palestinians had taken refuge in that hospital and

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Speaker 1: I figured first reaction I had was Hamas bombing itself

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Speaker 1: the thing we're trying to see is whether or not

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Speaker 1: there's going to be a ground invasion. There were some

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Speaker 1: that believe that isn't necessarily going to happen, that they

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Speaker 1: may have another way of rooting Hamas out. I can't

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Speaker 1: imagine what that would be. I don't know what either,

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Speaker 1: with three hundred miles of tunnels.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now you know, the Israelis are good at this,

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Speaker 2: so they may be taking this time to come up

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Speaker 2: with a more efficient, if not elaborate, plan to do

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Speaker 2: what they have to do. They already claim they've killed

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Speaker 2: several Hamas leaders, which is something to be gained. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're doing those drone strikes, which are my favorite. Rub

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Speaker 2: him out with hear this little worrying above you?

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Speaker 3: What's that?

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Speaker 1: You get a missile right in the head too?

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Speaker 6: Eight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a smudge in the desert.

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Speaker 1: Stuff like to call this smudge, Well they did it

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Speaker 1: leaves a black smudge in the same Well, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: the blood, the debris, everything all smashed down. All right,

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Speaker 1: we got more coming up. Johnny Ken kf I AM

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Speaker 1: six forty Live everywhere iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 6: AM six forty.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, what is the Hall of Famer longtime

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Speaker 2: NFL player like Terrell Owens do with you know, some

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Speaker 2: of his time off. Remember he was on the forty

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Speaker 2: nine Ers and the Cowboys wide receiver. He plays pick

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Speaker 2: up basketball in Calabasas and apparently he got into an

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Speaker 2: argument with another guy during the game and after the game,

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Speaker 2: the guy took his car and bumped Owen's knee with

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Speaker 2: his car. Owen's not injured, didn't need medical treatment. But

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Speaker 2: the clickbait is the head Torell Owen's hit by car

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Speaker 2: that was looking all over. Oh my god, what happened? Now?

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Speaker 2: We need speed cameras, John.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a speed camera would have prevented that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's had his little run. Ins apparently punched an

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Speaker 2: alleged heckler in a CBS parking lot last year after

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Speaker 2: that person allegedly made offensive gestures and threatening statements toward him.

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Speaker 1: So he's kind of a character, but a violent character.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you haven't seen this video, and I had

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Speaker 2: to look at it because I didn't believe it. In

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Speaker 2: other parts of the world, they certainly deal with different

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Speaker 2: animals than we do. And of course down Under in Australia,

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Speaker 2: that would be the kangaroo. I don't see too many

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Speaker 2: kangaroos unless you go to a zoo in California, but

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Speaker 2: you can see them in the wild in that part

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Speaker 2: of the world. And what's really bizarre about this video.

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Speaker 2: It's an Australian man by the name of Mick Maloney.

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Speaker 2: He took a partial video of this because he was

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Speaker 2: fighting for his dog's life. Apparently he was by the

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Speaker 2: water and the dog, as dogs will do, wandered into

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Speaker 2: the water and a kangaroo popped out of the water.

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Speaker 2: And if you look at the video, John, if you

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Speaker 2: saw it, the kangaroo is holding the dog's head. He's

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Speaker 2: got the dog ready to drown it. His dog's name

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Speaker 2: is Hatchie. And he saw this and he ran into

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Speaker 2: action and apparently he got into a little quick boxing

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Speaker 2: match with the kangaroo, who he called buffed. He said

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Speaker 2: that this kangaroo look like he just got out of prison.

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Speaker 2: He's he looked jack because this guy Maloney is martial

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Speaker 2: arts and jiu jitsu trained, So does that.

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Speaker 1: Work on kangaroos.

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Speaker 2: Well, remember they're known to like box And did you

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Speaker 2: ever see kangaroos fight? Actually? No, this video? Where would

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Speaker 2: I see that? I think John used to be portraying

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Speaker 2: cartoons when we were kids. All right, all right, but

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Speaker 2: cartoon kangaroo.

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Speaker 1: I saw a video and the kangaroo is standing there

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Speaker 1: like this tough guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's holding the dog like all right, don't

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Speaker 2: give you the money, I'm gonna kill your animal.

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Speaker 1: He's got this intimidating stance and glare he don't mess

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Speaker 1: with me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just he's just sitting there in the water

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Speaker 2: gently holding the dog. And it's like, basically, it looks

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Speaker 2: like a hostage situation. Pay up where your dog gets it.

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Speaker 2: So apparently he went into action, and he said he

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Speaker 2: took a hit at the animal before getting hit back

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Speaker 2: and almost seriously injured.

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Speaker 1: But the dog got loose.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he said that this thing looks like it just

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Speaker 2: got out of jail or something.

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Speaker 5: You know what.

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Speaker 2: I looked at it several times because I couldn't believe

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Speaker 2: what I was looking at it. It looked like like

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Speaker 2: like a guy in a kangaroo costume. Right, he got

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Speaker 2: some of the fight before the camera was hit down

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Speaker 2: by the kangaroo. But I guess he must have recovered.

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Speaker 1: And then and then it up. Yeah, he picked it up,

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Speaker 1: and then you could see the dog had escaped.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the dog got it. Everybody survived. And he says

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Speaker 2: he doesn't want to run into that kangaroo again because

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Speaker 2: he calls it a draw.

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Speaker 1: I got a few punches in, he got a few

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Speaker 1: punches in, but the dog, the dog lived. I wish

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Speaker 1: there was a shot at him and the gangaroo bunch

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Speaker 1: of each other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's taking a swipe out of that.

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Speaker 1: Well, we got Conway and Thompson here. How crazy is that?

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Speaker 1: Huh ding? Dog ding and don Yeah, it's just another Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: I prefer to be dong.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you've got over this. You prefer the dog. I

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Speaker 3: don't mind being dang.

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Speaker 1: But no, I didn't say I prefer the dog. I

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Speaker 1: said prefer being for the dog. Well, god, we don't

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Speaker 1: have to know everything, all right, dom shooting in studio City,

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Speaker 1: This is scary. I more parking Lancasham. Oh yes, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, the lake. Yeah, well to look alike. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but then two guys died right there in the emergency

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Speaker 1: room at Saint Jose and Burbank, which you can see

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Speaker 1: from this window. It's right there. I mean, that's really

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Speaker 1: getting closed. Yeah, that's uh. You could have heard it

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Speaker 1: from this building.

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Speaker 2: Night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, So we'll cover that. No suit's going on there.

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Speaker 1: Plus a security guard was shot in his car in

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Speaker 1: Laguna Hills.

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Speaker 3: A lot of shooting.

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Speaker 1: Guard another safe area, you know. And the reason why

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Speaker 1: people that make a lot of money is to get

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Speaker 1: away from crap like that. Yes, you've got a lagoon

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Speaker 1: or you don't want to hear about shooting, that's right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not what you're paying for.

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Speaker 2: Catch it up to them.

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Speaker 1: And then then we also have I don't know if

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Speaker 1: your kid, you know, if you have kids that do this,

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Speaker 1: but cruise ships. I know Mark's a big fan. The

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Speaker 1: prices are going through the roof. Oh no, they can't

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Speaker 1: make enough of these and sell enough of these rooms.

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Speaker 1: Everyone of them's packed. They're making four or five new

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Speaker 1: ships a year, and these just big fat Americans are

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Speaker 1: getting on them.

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Speaker 7: Now they've got those buffets. You if you weren't fat

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Speaker 7: when you got on, you'll be fat when you got off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a Las Vegas style crawd it really is.

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Speaker 1: But it's for people that like to, I guess, be

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Speaker 1: in close quarters and eat a lot. Well, it's a

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Speaker 1: lazy way to vacation. But there you never have to

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Speaker 1: leave the boat. But don't you have to get up

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Speaker 1: early to get a chase near the port.

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Speaker 7: You need to get up early to get on these

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Speaker 7: excursions to that you have this idea that you're on

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Speaker 7: the boat the whole time. No, they got you out there.

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Speaker 7: It's like summer camp. Yeah, you know, volleyball at ten

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Speaker 7: and then he choose to stay on the boat. Yes,

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Speaker 7: that's right, you can choose to But then you then

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Speaker 7: your wife.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever had this or you know, at least

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Speaker 1: experienced this or witnessed it where your the ship is

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Speaker 1: leaving and people are running towards the show.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, is that right? Oh yeah, no, it's happened.

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Speaker 1: It's on their dime to get to the next port.

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Speaker 3: Well, they've got to write if you miss it, you

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Speaker 3: miss it, why do you have to catch it?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: That happened to my wife. Actually, really.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she made it, but she got into a long

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Speaker 2: involved negotiation with this Egyptian guy that we went on

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Speaker 2: like an Israel, Egypt, Greece cruise. Yeah, and there was

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Speaker 2: one last string of souvenir shops. Right, she went in

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Speaker 2: there for one more negotiation and I'm on the ship

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Speaker 2: leaning over with my son talking and she's trying to

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Speaker 2: squeeze the last what I wouldn't give for video that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so long she got the prize. That's wild. Well

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Speaker 1: you went to Egypt on a cruise? Yeah, yeah, great cruise.

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Speaker 1: Do you go down the Pyramids and then oh, I

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Speaker 1: see the Pyramids?

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Speaker 3: The Nile? Did you go on you catch a little

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Speaker 3: the Nile?

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Speaker 1: We saw a floating dead goat in the channel that

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Speaker 1: leads to the Nile.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we saw a lot of things that do you

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Speaker 1: go through the Suez Canal? No, I don't remember doing that.

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Speaker 3: Has just exhausted his Middle East.

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Speaker 1: I said, geography, quiz, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But the did you go through the shoe?

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Speaker 1: That's supposed to be a really cool thing to do

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Speaker 1: a lot of warships go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because they get that whole lock thing and then

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Speaker 3: they put their water in.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Well, Tim and Mark will describe how the

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Speaker 1: canal works.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Crozier's got the news bizer and uh, all right, he's right.

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Speaker 1: He was always said a lot in the.

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