WEBVTT - OCD AND SKATEBOARDING

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hello, Hi. What's your name?

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<v Speaker 2>No fucking way, Sully.

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<v Speaker 1>Sully, like the monster.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy, Yeah from Monsters, Inc.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, Sully? How can I get you today? What's

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<v Speaker 1>happening on the planet Earth? From your perspective?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess what I wanted to talk to you about

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<v Speaker 2>is numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I have this, like I.

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<v Speaker 2>Have this like weird thing with numbers. It might hurt

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<v Speaker 2>your brain. Holy shit, I can't believe I'm talking to you.

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<v Speaker 1>This ship is crazy numbers with some numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Any way. So it's like I'm like self city because

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<v Speaker 2>I skateboard a lot, and I like can only try

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<v Speaker 2>like certain stuff a certain amount of times, and like

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't know how I'll explain it with that

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<v Speaker 2>like being.

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<v Speaker 1>Weird you So just just to cut I'm gonna cut

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<v Speaker 1>you off for just a second because your your thing

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cut out a little bit. But you said

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<v Speaker 1>you were self diagoned, that you've self di diagnosed with OCD.

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<v Speaker 2>Well like kind of my parents and shit have kind

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<v Speaker 2>of told me because like I don't know. It's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm skateboarding and I do it a trick and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh shit, I'm really close. But I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>a numb I meant like try like ten or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that, depending on what day of the week. I

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<v Speaker 2>won't try it the eleventh try seriously if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so these okay, tell me more about these numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>Does this occur in your life in any in any

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<v Speaker 1>form other than in skateboarding?

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, so, like real quick backstory. How it like

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<v Speaker 2>started was like you ever, like you're listening to music

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<v Speaker 2>and then you like accidentally skip a song that you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to play, so you skip back to it.

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<v Speaker 1>M yes, yes, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would do that, but I would go like

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth, back and forth, back and forth until

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<v Speaker 2>like it felt right to listen to that song.

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<v Speaker 1>How many times would you go back and forth?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it would just whatever felt right.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess this does actually sound like OCD.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then it like went into like numbers and

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<v Speaker 2>then like like I've I've always put on like Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is weird, but like a certain like swipes the

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<v Speaker 2>deodorant or like how many like swishes I do with

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<v Speaker 2>like brushing my teeth and shit like that, if that

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense, And like if I'm like so, say, at work, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I pull into the parking lot depending on what day

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<v Speaker 2>of the week it is, I can only park in

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<v Speaker 2>that spot a certain amount of times during the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all of this hurts my brain.

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<v Speaker 1>How long have you been like this?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Ever since I was probably like I think, like a

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<v Speaker 2>junior in high school and I'm twenty now, so probably

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<v Speaker 2>like four years.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, what have you gone to see like a

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<v Speaker 1>psychiatrist about this?

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<v Speaker 2>No, which I probably should, But like sometimes it's like

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<v Speaker 2>money and like sometimes like my parents are crazy, not

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<v Speaker 2>my parents, more my mom. I love my mom, but

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<v Speaker 2>she's kind of crazy sometimes and like she had a

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<v Speaker 2>bad ex experience with shit like that when she was

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<v Speaker 2>a kid, so she kind of is like, don't go

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<v Speaker 2>and then like money, So I just talked to family

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<v Speaker 2>about it, and then it kind of makes me feel better.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what is what happens when you talk to your

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<v Speaker 1>family about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? My grandpa just reassures me that, like it's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like regular shit. But I might have like

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<v Speaker 2>an OCD or something like that. And then like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, definitely, the older I'm getting like kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the better it's gotten, do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like now it's not so much now it's not so

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<v Speaker 2>much like an everyday thing. Like it's still an everyday thing,

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<v Speaker 2>but not as much because like sometimes I'll have these

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<v Speaker 2>like crazy fucking like not episodes, but like some days

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just be fun and like I have to touch

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<v Speaker 2>shit a certain amount of times and like shit like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But like today, like I'm chilling, like I'm fine, life

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<v Speaker 2>is great. So it's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>H I really I oh man, well I'm conflicted exact.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, I really just think you should probably

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<v Speaker 1>see a psychiatrist.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I need to think about that, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I well, just can I ask you about your

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<v Speaker 1>your life in general? Are you in school? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? I work at a car autoparts store and the

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<v Speaker 2>skate shop and I teach kids how to skate.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that sounds really nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh it's really rewarding.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, okay, so you got like a cool you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing good things.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to because there's a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 2>like hate in the skate community. But like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>how could you hate on somebody who's helping.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people who hate in the skate community

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<v Speaker 1>within what sense?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, like say you do like a certain trick or something,

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<v Speaker 2>oh that was whack as fuck, and then like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, they just like someone always has something hateful

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<v Speaker 2>to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you'll do certain tricks and people will say that

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<v Speaker 1>your tricks are whack as fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So like quick explanations. So like I skate curbs,

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<v Speaker 2>so like a curb that you would see like on

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<v Speaker 2>the side of the road, you know, but like in

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<v Speaker 2>the skate community that's like deemed like something for like

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<v Speaker 2>old people. Why because like okay, you know what an

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<v Speaker 2>olie is, like how you like get the board. Yeah. So,

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<v Speaker 2>like I had surgery on my ankle like a year ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and it kind of like sorry, I'm sot of breath.

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<v Speaker 2>It made me like not be able to allie as

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<v Speaker 2>well anymore. And like I kind of hated skateboarding because

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, like it kind of ruined my

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<v Speaker 2>life for a little bit. And then like I started

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<v Speaker 2>like skating curves as like Okay, I don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>work as hard, not necessarily, because like once you get

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<v Speaker 2>into it, you're like, oh shit, like this shit is hard,

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<v Speaker 2>But like you don't have to like necessarily like Alie

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<v Speaker 2>into shit because it's called like a slappy, like you

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<v Speaker 2>slap your board into it and like it's just like

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<v Speaker 2>old people, so like old fat guys who like I

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<v Speaker 2>can't alie anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I have a lot of thoughts about your haters, man,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you? I mean, well, first, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>you said, what's your name again?

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<v Speaker 2>Sully?

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<v Speaker 1>You Sally? You sound like a good guy. You have

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<v Speaker 1>a you have respectable you have two respectable jobs, you

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<v Speaker 1>have a hobby that you like, you have family that

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<v Speaker 1>you care about. I mean, who the fuck that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing else.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of it is, like I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of it is like like other people like looking in

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<v Speaker 2>the mirror because like I've been like traveling and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>for skating, uh huh, like not necessarily like for like

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<v Speaker 2>skate competicians and shit, but just like I want to

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<v Speaker 2>work in the industry, Like that's what I want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And skateboarding is like really like die hard. Like if

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<v Speaker 2>you are like in the industry, you're like you're in there,

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<v Speaker 2>if that makes sense. So it's like really hard to

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<v Speaker 2>like get in anyway. Uh, That's what I'm trying to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think a lot of people because I live

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<v Speaker 2>in Iowa, I don't know if anyone I will listen

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<v Speaker 2>to this, but fuck it. But like, I live in

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<v Speaker 2>Iowa and we have the biggest skate park in the US.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I feel like a lot of people, like

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<v Speaker 2>I've noticed in general, like a lot of people like

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<v Speaker 2>don't make it out of Iowa, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So stop, I'm gonna stop you right there. You

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<v Speaker 1>say you want to be in the industry. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do, is that you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>a professional skater.

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<v Speaker 2>Not necessarily just doing something that like like whether that's

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<v Speaker 2>like film or like like press boards or like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>draw graphics for board. You know, something like that gets

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<v Speaker 2>me in the industry. And I guess that's what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was gonna say, I was gonna I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, first of all, you already are in the industry.

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<v Speaker 1>You make money. You make money, okay, but you make

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<v Speaker 1>you make money teaching kids how to skate, yes, And

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<v Speaker 1>you work at a skate shop.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And these things pay you money.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't pay you. It sounds like it sounds like they

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<v Speaker 1>don't pay you as much money as you'd like them

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<v Speaker 1>to pay you right now, Like, but when when when

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<v Speaker 1>but just just when we say, I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>like define this because I really like fucking mean that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like sometimes these things get to vague and that's annoying

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<v Speaker 1>to me. So if we were to define f this,

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<v Speaker 1>like if we were like the industry, if we were

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<v Speaker 1>to define the industry, can you hear me? Please tell

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<v Speaker 1>me you can hear me in this? You can hear me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. If we were to define the industry as like

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<v Speaker 1>you making money, making enough money to like pay your

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<v Speaker 1>bills by in the in the realm of skateboarding, then

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<v Speaker 1>the industry is not this closed off thing that is

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<v Speaker 1>determined by a select group of people who are cooler

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<v Speaker 1>and smarter than you. But it's it's a it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a wide open field of opportunity. I think. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me, do you what do you want to do

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<v Speaker 1>in skate You just said I want to design things.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to tell me more, like, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to what do you want to do?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I guess like I've kind of thought

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<v Speaker 2>about that, but like not to that extent. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of like my foot in is teaching kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I honestly, if I could get paid the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of my life to like do that like enough

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<v Speaker 2>where I'd be like financially well, I would totally do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't see why that? Well, hold on, why is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that a such a far off goal to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Because of right now, like especially in skating, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>in a downfall, and like a lot of companies are

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<v Speaker 2>like shutting down, and like not as many kids are

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<v Speaker 2>skateboarding because like COVID hit and like everybody was like

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<v Speaker 2>looking for something to do, yeah, and then and then

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<v Speaker 2>they found skateboarding and they're like, holy shit, like this

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<v Speaker 2>fucking skateboarding thing. And then uh and then you know

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<v Speaker 2>everyone everything's kind of like open now, and then it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>like we don't need that. So like all these companies

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<v Speaker 2>like overordered shit and like little shit like that, and

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<v Speaker 2>like the skateboarding economy is kind of like crashing as

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<v Speaker 2>of right now.

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<v Speaker 1>What how often are you teaching kids the skateboarding.

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<v Speaker 2>I do an after school thing with kids every like

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<v Speaker 2>once every week, and then like as of right now,

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<v Speaker 2>just because it's like starting to get cold, I do

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<v Speaker 2>like one on one lessons and like I do that

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe once or twice a week, but usually like

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<v Speaker 2>in the summer. It's crazy we have like so like

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<v Speaker 2>I guess during the summer because like we have like

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<v Speaker 2>winters here. I don't know if you've ever been to

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<v Speaker 2>Iowa or not, yeah, but Iowa. Yeah, and there's not

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to do. But it's sick definitely during the summer,

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<v Speaker 2>like all these parents are like getting their kids to

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<v Speaker 2>skate and my shit like that. And so during the summer,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm like booked all the time because all these

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<v Speaker 2>parents are like finding stuff for their kids to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But like now that kids are back in school, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like slowly going down.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, you said you were twenty Yeah, oh holy shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know. I'm pretty like I'm a baby. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like sometimes uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, shit, man, you I think you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of uh I don't know that. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there's so much opportunity for you. So like do

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<v Speaker 1>you make videos? Do you like market yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>Not necessarily with the what's it called? So I'm leaving

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<v Speaker 2>my house, I don't necessarily like as much, but like regularly.

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<v Speaker 1>Necessarily what you don't you don't necessarily what as much?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh like film like me like doing like skate lessons,

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<v Speaker 2>but like it's out there that I do skate lessons,

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<v Speaker 2>so like people now that I do skate lessons, and

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<v Speaker 2>then like like I do like post skateboarding, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>picked up a couple of sponsors from that and ship

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<v Speaker 2>like that, which is really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think that you're uh, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>this is out of the realm of possibility for you

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to do skateboarding stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't. I guess, like I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>like why I'm like thinking so hard about the skate

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<v Speaker 2>stuff because like I know, I'll be fine and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>always have skating, So I don't. It's just like a thought.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I I used to I used to love skateboarding. I

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<v Speaker 1>still do love skateboarding, just as like I love I've

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<v Speaker 1>always loved watching it, uh since I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to be obsessed with skate three and I

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<v Speaker 1>liked watching a lot of those like skate videos. I

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<v Speaker 1>still uh like watching it. It's scary. I used to.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to live in Venice and I would go

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<v Speaker 1>to Venice Beach and I would watch the skateboarders and

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<v Speaker 1>there were all these like like twelve year olds who

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<v Speaker 1>like were on their fucking like scooters and they were

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<v Speaker 1>jumping off like you they were doing shit that Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm double these more than double these kids age,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd be fucking terrified, but they're like with no fear.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fine. I'm not I'm going off the rails here,

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<v Speaker 1>no pun intended. But I thought, I'm watching these kids

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking, I'm like, if I was like this

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<v Speaker 1>kid's father, I would be like, you're never skateboarding ever,

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<v Speaker 1>I would forbid. I would be like, I think I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be pretty good at, like, you know, encouraging my kids

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<v Speaker 1>to like be whoever they want to be or do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they want to do. But skateboarding, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's so, it's just so I actually I really like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I like watching it and I appreciate it, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>just so easy to get fucked up, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like that's how I had surgery. And like I

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm just kind of like scared sometimes because I've

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<v Speaker 2>given so much of my life and like shit into skating,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's my whole like personality kind of, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>like I just want it to work out, but like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know like why I'm worrying because like

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<v Speaker 2>wherever I put my energy, that's where you're supposed to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen. I don't think. I don't think. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>said it just now nicely. I think I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you should lament all the time you spend skateboarding. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that uh you you'll have you have so much

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<v Speaker 1>uh uh time to develop yourself however you want to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think another thing is like maybe because it's getting cold,

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<v Speaker 2>but like I get kind of bored of skating, Like

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<v Speaker 2>not in a sense where I'm like I'm never gonna

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<v Speaker 2>skate again. Like sometimes like you get stuck, Like you

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<v Speaker 2>get periods where you get stuck because you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what to do or like learn or something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and so like you just start getting bored. So I've

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<v Speaker 2>been like doing other stuff and then I'll take a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of day break and then come back and feel

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot better.

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<v Speaker 1>Did What did you say?

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<v Speaker 3>Your name was? Jo?

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck Ship? I'm sorry I don't remember anyone, I Sully?

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<v Speaker 1>Mmmm mm hmmm, Sally is is uh is there anything

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<v Speaker 1>else that you want to say to the people of

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<v Speaker 1>the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I do. I'm pulling it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you wrote something, Yeah, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Not not wrote something, but like I'm really into like

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<v Speaker 2>trying to be happy and find purpose. Uh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just go with life is best lived in the

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<v Speaker 2>present moment. If not, who fuck? I forgot it?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go? Sorry? Wait no, oh I'm fucking this up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, Lyle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, man, Sorry you.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck. I just love yourself and like, if people are hating,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're doing something right.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not always, not always, not always at all, not always,

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<v Speaker 1>not always, not always. But I think if if people

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<v Speaker 1>are if people are hating on you because you're skateboarding

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<v Speaker 1>in a weird way, I think those people are are idiots.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess just be the energy you want. It would tract.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, well, take care, Sally. I hope to see you

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<v Speaker 1>Trey flipping uh all over all over the Tri County

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<v Speaker 1>area one day.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I love you. Can I Sally can? I?

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<v Speaker 1>There we go? He's Sully and I look like Mike Wazowski. Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is this?

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<v Speaker 3>This is John? John?

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? John?

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<v Speaker 3>What's up? Man? I was just calling first. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to say I love your show, bro. You thank you

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<v Speaker 3>doing great things. I appreciate you your show and everything. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a little nervous right now.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's okay, Thank you very much, John. I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that. What do you do? What are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Where are you right now? I'm at I'm at my house,

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<v Speaker 3>just finished eating some water Burger, some uh cool number eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>Now now I'm chilling in my room next to my cat.

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<v Speaker 1>What's a number eleven at Waterburger?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a grilled chicken sandwich right there?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh shit? What is uh? I didn't know they have

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<v Speaker 1>grilled chicken at Waterburger.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, they got uh got grilled chicken, they got

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<v Speaker 3>uh fried chicken, they got all kinds of stuff. Used

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<v Speaker 3>to work there as I had.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatater Burger eleven days ago? And uh, against my better judgment,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a Doctor Pepper milkshake. Did you get that?

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<v Speaker 5>Fuck?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Because normally here's the thing. Like a Doctor Pepper slurpy

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<v Speaker 1>is something I'm familiar with, but a milkshake is not

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<v Speaker 1>like a I've never heard in my life of like

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<v Speaker 1>a soda milk or even like a Doctor Pepper float.

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<v Speaker 1>But to combine the soda and the ice cream into

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<v Speaker 1>a milkshake is unheard of.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was, uh, yeah, I don't know about that,

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<v Speaker 3>doctor pepper milkshake. I feel like you'll give.

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<v Speaker 1>Me the ships, you know, yeah, it would, it would. So, John,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up? Was there a reason you called today?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, So I wanted to talk like about So I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't talked to anybody about this yet, but just graduate,

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<v Speaker 3>graduated nursing school and stuff like that. Because past my

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<v Speaker 3>my inflex, thank you bro, just past my inclex my

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<v Speaker 3>state exam. I'm a licensed nurse now. But I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>like I thought once I became like a nurse and

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<v Speaker 3>graduated nursing school, like you know, shit would get better, right,

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<v Speaker 3>But it turns out like sh it just got worse,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I think, uh after that, Like after I graduated

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<v Speaker 3>nursing school, i passed my exam, I was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>was the depressed I've ever the most depressed I've ever

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<v Speaker 3>been in my life. And I was like confused because

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, this is a goal I've been

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<v Speaker 3>working towards since I was like in high school, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was I've been contemplating on im like is

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<v Speaker 3>there I wanted to ask you, like what what what

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<v Speaker 3>kind of makes you makes you happy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting you say that. I the other day, like

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<v Speaker 1>two or three days, two days ago, I was in

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<v Speaker 1>my notes app and I was writing down everything that

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<v Speaker 1>had been making me happy lately at least, and I

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<v Speaker 1>could talk about that. But I guess, so for you,

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<v Speaker 1>why did why do you think you felt so depressed

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<v Speaker 1>after graduating?

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<v Speaker 3>So I was, uh, so, I also, I've been trying

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<v Speaker 3>to I was listening to your and I heard that

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<v Speaker 3>you journal and stuff, and I was like, oh, that's

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<v Speaker 3>a good idea. Let me trust journal. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>tried journaling and I was just like kind of typing

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<v Speaker 3>it out, could I do and all that? And I

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<v Speaker 3>realized it was because like nursing school did it did

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't give you break to like to think other

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<v Speaker 3>than what you have to do, what your schedule's like

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<v Speaker 3>and and all that. And my girlfriend she also moved

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<v Speaker 3>to what she didn't She joined the army and she's

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<v Speaker 3>in career right now, and she was like my main

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<v Speaker 3>like person to talk to you, m so she so

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<v Speaker 3>she left right before I graduated, and then I graduated,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I guess, like all my like emotions kind

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<v Speaker 3>of hit me at once, like everything that was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of being suppressed from like me kind of like grinding

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<v Speaker 3>to graduate and do all this crap.

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it all hit me at once.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. That actually makes

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<v Speaker 1>like a ton of sense that because there's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about ship and doing shit, and uh, there's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of I think there's an optimal balance in life between

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about ship and doing shit, like you should like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're constantly thinking about shit all the time, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be anxious and you're not gonna actually do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're constantly doing shit all the time, or

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<v Speaker 1>you're not even thinking about why you're doing it or

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<v Speaker 1>like examining your life in any way, shape or form,

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<v Speaker 1>then uh yeah, everything just gets kind of like bottled

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<v Speaker 1>up and comes out at once, or like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you spend seven years doing some bullshit and then afterwards

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, wait, why did they even do any of that?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is optimal, there's like an optimal balance

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<v Speaker 1>of actually living your life versus thinking about it. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you you do you feel like you spent too much

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<v Speaker 1>time doing and not enough time examining why you were

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<v Speaker 1>doing what you were doing or what was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>even going on in your life of a time.

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<v Speaker 3>So I kind of figured out, like, all right, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to be in like I want to because I

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:21.920
<v Speaker 3>enjoy helping people stuff like that. But even fuck, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>don't I don't. Sorry, sorry dudles, your question again. I

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<v Speaker 3>kind of blank out how bad my question was.

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<v Speaker 1>If you feel like you've been spending too much time

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<v Speaker 1>doing shit that you haven't spent enough time thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>your life?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I've been yeah, yeah, definitely,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been uh shit, well single. I think I don't

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<v Speaker 3>remember the last time I was, uh say, I think

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<v Speaker 3>maybe four years ago I was single. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>a girlfriend, so I was no, it's probably like five

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<v Speaker 3>So I think I've constantly had like someone there to

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<v Speaker 3>like distract me and kind of keep my mind from

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<v Speaker 3>from all like a bunch of crap, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and with the school I've been in school for since

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<v Speaker 3>I since like twenty eighteen. I just kind of went

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<v Speaker 3>all over the place with school and then landing here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, so uh is your so are you single

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<v Speaker 1>now or your girlfriend? Is she she's away right where

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<v Speaker 1>she's in Korea?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's in Korea, and the army.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how like is she gonna be there? How long

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<v Speaker 1>are you guys gonna be separated? For you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, like a year?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh? What you What have you been doing since

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<v Speaker 1>you've graduated?

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<v Speaker 3>So since since I graduated, I was studying for the

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<v Speaker 3>state exam, so I was keeping busy with that. And

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<v Speaker 3>I I took my state exam. When was it last week? Monday?

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<v Speaker 3>So since then, dude, I've just been like going to

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<v Speaker 3>the gym, should just whatever. I kind of kind of

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<v Speaker 3>feel like I like making food. I've just been like

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:21.120
<v Speaker 3>doing ship to kind of keep me busy. Mm hmm,

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 3>yeah I haven't. I haven't just been chilling now.

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Why so, why do you think you're so depressed? Then?

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:33.439
<v Speaker 3>So? Oh dude, so I was. I was, Uh, I

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:35.640
<v Speaker 3>don't know, that was the thing. I don't know where

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 3>the fuck I was. I was so depressed. I was

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 3>trying to think of like, uh, I was, I was

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 3>gonna go to therapy too, but those fuckers aren't calling

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 3>me back. I was thinking maybe, like I was, I

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 3>was trying to think, maybe it is like it or

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 3>hereditary because my mom she's on uh SSR, I is

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 3>or like and and I had depressed into or whatever,

0:28:57.160 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 3>and uh, she's on them, and then my grandma's pretty crazy,

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 3>and then my mom's brother is pretty crazy. So it's like, oh, fuck,

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 3>is it like hereditary to have like a chemical imbalance?

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Do I need to be I'm like antidepressants or what.

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 3>So I was trying to go to a therapist or

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 3>is that or is that a psychiatrist?

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Uh, the psychiatrist is the one that does meds and

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 1>the therapist is the one that stares at you and

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>goes yes, uh huh yeah.

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 3>Uh huh yeah. Uh. I don't really know, dude, I've

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 3>been I'm trying to trying to figure that out. I

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 3>was I was on YouTube before you went on stream.

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 3>I saw a clip from Kai Sinnat with John Cena

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 3>and then he was uh, he was spit in some

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 3>some some truth. He was saying like he he thought

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 3>his purpose on the world was to like be a

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 3>wrestler and then he became an actor and he was like,

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 3>oh so I'm like, ah, like, uh, I forgot what

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 3>he said, like an entertainer or some ship. But then

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 3>he said he realized like that those things weren't making

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 3>him like half, those weren't his main source of happiness,

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 3>like external forces this this it's not like directly quoted,

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 3>but it's kind of like what he was saying, Like

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 3>these things weren't his uh source of happiness or his

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 3>his uh his purpose, but he he said he was

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 3>grateful for like waking up in the morning and like

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 3>being so fortunate to be where he's at. So I

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 3>was I was trying to think, like what the what

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 3>the fuck? Like I thought being a nurse would like

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 3>make me like, uh have like some sort of purpose,

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, like or happiness.

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, because like this goal I was I was

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:03.479
<v Speaker 3>going for since I was like in high school. I

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 3>finally got and I thought it would have been like this,

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 3>you fork, euphoric feeling of like oh shit, dude, finally

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 3>did it. Yeah. I was like, oh, like I was

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 3>expecting that. But when I was when I graduated, I

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 3>was walking with my friends, and my friends were like like.

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh, hyped up.

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 3>They're like, oh shit, we did it, blah blah blah,

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 3>and I was just like like like expressionless, Like I

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 3>was just like I wanted to be happy. I just couldn't,

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 3>Like I couldn't do it. I don't know. It was weird.

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>So all right, I mean, I have, I have some

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:42.719
<v Speaker 1>thoughts and these are just I'm just going off of

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>like my own lived experience, Okay, and everyone's brains are

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>differently and uh, you know, brain chemistry and shit is

0:31:53.000 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 1>a thing. So you know, aside from just me and

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Kai Sinnat, you should definitely still try to find a

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 1>real therapist or psychiatrist to talk through these things with.

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 1>But while you're waiting for them to call you back,

0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 1>and it is just me and Kai Sinnat, I'll say

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 1>from my own lived experience that I but that what

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>makes Because you asked me earlier, you were like, what

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 1>makes me happy? And I wrote down a list, and

0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 1>lately the things that are making me really happy, especially

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>as I get older and as I get kind of

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>further along in my what I'm doing, they become strongly

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 1>less and less about accomplishments and far more about general

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 1>peace of mind. Like again, I can only speak from

0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>my lived experience. I've accomplished what I like is a lot,

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 1>and I feel grateful to have accomplished and experienced and

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>everything that I've accomplished and experienced in my life. But

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was pretty and I've you know, there's

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 1>there's been a lot of misery among those accomplishments. And

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 1>as far as just like my general state of being,

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>it comes less from anything I've accomplished and more from like,

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 1>how do I achieve just like a like peace? And

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that peace is necessarily achieved by achieving

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff. I'm no expert and how peace

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 1>is achieved, because if I were, I would be more peaceful.

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 1>But just in my own life, I think peace is

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>something you kind of arrived to. The acceptance and the

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 1>you know you talked about like how you haven't even

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 1>sorted through the thoughts like you have you've had You've

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:00.239
<v Speaker 1>been distracted. That's kind of was some of the things

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>you've been talked about. You said you felt distracted by

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>like your girlfriend and by your work and whatnot. And

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I think taking some time away from those distractions to

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 1>like work out why your brain is rattled or what

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the fuck is bothering you is helpful. I have, personally,

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>I have struggled with the the opposite where I think

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>there's wait, I talked about this again, there's the if

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 1>you if every single day you're thinking so much about

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:38.840
<v Speaker 1>yourself and your life and analyzing everything you do, you'll

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 1>you get, you get. It makes you kind of anxious,

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 1>but there needs to be an appropriate amount of like, Okay,

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 1>let me examine why I feel the way I feel,

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:52.359
<v Speaker 1>and maybe I can achieve a little bit of peace

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 1>through that. But like you know, at a certain point,

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 1>put the fucking pen down and uh go, you know,

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 1>play call of duty, do whatever you gotta do to

0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 1>turn your brain off. Yeah, I'm trying to think with

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 1>your specific situation. Hm hmmm, I mean, do you like nursing?

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you like the process of That's the other thing

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:30.879
<v Speaker 1>with the achievements is that they're not particularly process focused, right,

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>m So do you like nursing? Do you do you

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 1>like schooling? Are you excited to literally do the functions

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:41.280
<v Speaker 1>of your job?

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm pretty excited to do my job. I'm it

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 3>was weird, man, because when I when I first when

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 3>I first started like nursing, I was uh more compassionate.

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 3>I was more compassionate than I am now because I

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 3>work in the hospitals as a tech. Yeah, and you

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 3>you see like a lot of uh I mean yeah,

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 3>you see people dying. You see like death and ship

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 3>So fuck man, I don't know. I felt more compassionate

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 3>when I first started. But I do enjoy I really do, like,

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 3>uh like doing like the ICU kind of thing when

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 3>I did my clinicals. I mean, people are dying there more,

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 3>but I enjoy like the I enjoy that. But I

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 3>was trying to think, yeah, there's not really like a

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 3>process of of of doing that. But even then in

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 3>the ICU, I can't even like look forward. I mean

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 3>I can, but I can't like look forward to that

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:46.759
<v Speaker 3>either because it's like, well, ship, like I can't base

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:52.920
<v Speaker 3>my happiness anymore on that, like anymore getting to a place.

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Wow, what do you mean? What do you mean.

0:36:56.760 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 3>Like I can't base my happiness or I can't depend

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:06.239
<v Speaker 3>on on getting to a certain like destination two make

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 3>me happy anymore?

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:11.879
<v Speaker 6>Because sure I did that with uh, with like graduating

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 6>and ship, and it fucking it's like, uh like I

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 6>just like.

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 3>Kind of blew my fucking world apart, you.

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:27.239
<v Speaker 5>Know, yeah, because I was like, oh, I thought this

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 5>should have been it, you know, like I'm starting like

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:31.759
<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to be broken more.

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:34.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean I guess every day I had a fuck

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 1>man ah fuck uh, I guess every day you try

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 1>to take pride in your own competence. I mean, you're

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:53.800
<v Speaker 1>a you're a nurse, you help people, you're you seem

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 1>to be competent at your job, and like that's kind

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:00.319
<v Speaker 1>of everything. That's the only thing. I've been coming to

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:02.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of epiphanies lately, and that's one of them,

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 1>is that the only things that matter are like, you know,

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the people you're around, and then like what you're actually

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 1>fucking doing. You know, So you could have all the

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 1>accolades or whatever in the world, but it all, it

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:19.440
<v Speaker 1>all really comes down to what the fuck are you

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 1>actually doing. And what the fuck you're actually doing is

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 1>you're being competent and you're helping people who are dying.

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 1>So you got that on a pretty solid lock, I

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 1>would say, mm hmm.

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:41.239
<v Speaker 3>It's it's how how often do you feel like if

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 3>it's not too personal of a question, how like like depressed,

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 3>like you.

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:50.279
<v Speaker 1>I feel I feel I feel the pressed. I feel

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 1>the pressed pretty often. Man, Yeah, I feel depressed pretty often.

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm working really hard and I think achieving actually some results,

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:04.320
<v Speaker 1>like I've I've Yeah, I mean I feel depressed pretty often,

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:07.799
<v Speaker 1>And lately I've been kind of saying to myself, I

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:16.760
<v Speaker 1>need to make a concentrated effort to prioritize not feeling

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 1>depressed as much. Like that's my new goal. That's kind

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:24.920
<v Speaker 1>of my end. I've been having a lot of epiphanies lately,

0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:27.719
<v Speaker 1>and one of them is, you know, my new goal

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 1>is just I can not be depressed because you can

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:36.560
<v Speaker 1>have as many you know, as we're kind of on

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 1>theme of what I think we're talking about, is you

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 1>can have as many get to as many places as

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 1>you want to get to as possible. But if you're

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 1>fucking miserable the whole time, then I don't think it

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:52.319
<v Speaker 1>was worth it. You know, you have to kind of

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:56.359
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of work to not be miserable if

0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 1>that's your default state of being. Some people get lucky

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:02.640
<v Speaker 1>and they they're not that's not really their default state

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>of being, or they don't have to deal with that,

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:06.359
<v Speaker 1>and that's great. But if you're one of the people who, uh,

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 1>that is a fairly common state of being, it's a

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of PHASI fucking concentrated effort to not be that,

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:16.400
<v Speaker 1>you know. So that's I guess what I'm working on.

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know who David Goggins is.

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 1>My friend, my friend, one of my friends just went

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 1>through a breakup and we talked on the phone and

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 1>a few days afterwards, and he was like, I'm in

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 1>my David Goggins phase of the breakup where he's he's

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:42.360
<v Speaker 1>all on that like run wake up at four am

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:44.319
<v Speaker 1>and run ten miles a day. Ship.

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was. I was. I used to I used

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:51.239
<v Speaker 3>to be my fucking idol. And I was like, I mean,

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:56.319
<v Speaker 3>he seems pretty chill with a misery. So I was like, oh,

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 3>maybe maybe David Goggins is the way.

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he's he seems pretty chill with misery. What do

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:03.399
<v Speaker 1>you mean by that?

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Like he seems pretty uh. He he always says like comfortable,

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 3>like comfortable with being uh like there's a not fucking miserable,

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 3>like comfortable with with uh being like uncomfortable with with

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 3>like pain like mental mental pain, and like, oh sure pain.

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, well, because well he well that's different.

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 3>That's me.

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:32.560
<v Speaker 1>That's he's like, I want to wake up, I wake

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:35.279
<v Speaker 1>up at four o'clock in the morning. And I like,

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:38.840
<v Speaker 1>that's a whole different fucking thing, I think. But I

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 1>think that's a little different than like the whole like

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 1>woo woo self acceptance vibe.

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 3>You know, Yeah, I guess I kind of watched his

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:50.719
<v Speaker 3>videos sometimes and I'm and I'm like, oh, maybe I'm

0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 3>just a bitch man. Maybe I need to, like, you know,

0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 3>like shut the fuck up and a little bit.

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 1>I really, I really, I really I swear. And this

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>is I'm an I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say this

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 1>because I think it's kind. I think I do find

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 1>it important. I really do believe, and I've thought I

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 1>swear my life. I think about this stuff so much.

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I think about the David Goggins universe, and I think

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 1>about the WU will self, the self acceptance universe a

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:18.880
<v Speaker 1>bunch and I and I like, like, how much of

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 1>I really do believe? The answer is somewhere? Truly, honestly,

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:32.279
<v Speaker 1>I really believe the answer is somewhere in between. Like

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 1>it's not one or the other, it's somewhere in between.

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:39.880
<v Speaker 1>The universe of like, you gotta love yourself and accept life,

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 1>accept yourself as who you are, and accept life for

0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 1>what it is, and accept your improfessions, accept your imperfections

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:50.040
<v Speaker 1>and accept the world and accept yourself and believe that

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:53.799
<v Speaker 1>you're enough. But also quit being a little bitch and

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:58.920
<v Speaker 1>fucking go exercise and quit complaining about fucking everything, and like,

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:02.320
<v Speaker 1>do some fucking work and stop. You know, it's somewhere

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:04.799
<v Speaker 1>in between those two things. I think, I think, I

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:07.280
<v Speaker 1>think you could. I really, I believe you could hold

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:12.960
<v Speaker 1>space for both ideas.

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:15.880
<v Speaker 3>You should get David Goggins on your on your podcast.

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:20.120
<v Speaker 1>That would be extremely funny. Anyway, man, is there is

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:21.399
<v Speaker 1>there anything else you want to say to the people

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 1>of the computer before we go?

0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 3>Uh? Shit? Fuck, I didn't think. I didn't think what

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:34.279
<v Speaker 3>to say. Uh have a oh ship name alert? I mean,

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 3>have a good day, keep watching the geck.

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, what what's the amber alert? Should we say? I

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 1>guess I guess that what's the Amber alert? They'll probably

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:45.640
<v Speaker 1>be gone by the.

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 3>Time Mitsubishi Outlander missing children are assume that ship. I

0:43:56.840 --> 0:44:01.280
<v Speaker 3>can't say their name ten year old suspect because Cheryl's

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Manchado Hernandez Jesus.

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I kind of wish I didn't ask you to.

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, I don't think we're gonna find them

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:13.319
<v Speaker 1>from the from this episode, but maybe we do. I

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:16.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Anyway, Yeah, I have those turned off on

0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:17.799
<v Speaker 1>my phone. Is that bad? Does that make me a

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:18.320
<v Speaker 1>bad person?

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 3>I wish, I wish I knew how to do that

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:26.080
<v Speaker 3>because one happened at like four in the fucking morning,

0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 3>and I had to get up at five, and I

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 3>was pretty pissed off. I mean, it sucks someone's uh,

0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, child got abducted. Yeah, but uh, I was like.

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:41.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're gonna sleep, you're probably having a kick ast.

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:44.959
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like what can what could I do? You know? Right?

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 1>All right? Well, what's your name again?

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:50.800
<v Speaker 3>John?

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:54.279
<v Speaker 1>John? Have a good night, John? Good luck?

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:55.800
<v Speaker 3>You do, man, you do?

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I really do. I really think the answer is somewhere

0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:10.520
<v Speaker 1>in between those two spaces, because I'm there, Yeah, because

0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 1>there's a push and a pull. I think I'm only

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:16.720
<v Speaker 1>speaking out of my own fucking lived experience. I don't

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 1>know the answers to any of the fucking questions that

0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:21.319
<v Speaker 1>of any of the things that people talk about on

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:23.400
<v Speaker 1>this thing. But there's a push and a pull between,

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Like you want more out of your life. In order

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:29.279
<v Speaker 1>to get more out of your life, you do have

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:32.480
<v Speaker 1>to like quit being a little bitch and like go

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:37.239
<v Speaker 1>fucking exercise and like you know, uh, work hard and

0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:41.440
<v Speaker 1>do things that to get you have to exert force

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:48.320
<v Speaker 1>and will yourself forward to make more out of your life.

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 1>That is true. But if you're gonna fucking if the

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:57.320
<v Speaker 1>whole way there is filled with you fucking being hating

0:45:57.360 --> 0:46:00.720
<v Speaker 1>yourself and being miserable and thinking that you're the fucking

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 1>that you suck, it's not, it's not. I just don't

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 1>think it's a proper equation. I think it's probably room

0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:13.280
<v Speaker 1>to for both to get there. It's like, I believe

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:15.759
<v Speaker 1>that you can get you can get more out of

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:19.960
<v Speaker 1>your life without having to be miserable and hate yourself

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:22.920
<v Speaker 1>to get there. I don't know if that's true. But

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 1>that's my that's I'm EXPERI I'm doing that experiment in

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:31.120
<v Speaker 1>my own life recently. That's my that's my recent epiphany.

0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:37.400
<v Speaker 1>That's my new experiment for myself. Can I move my

0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 1>life forward from a but do it from a place

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:45.239
<v Speaker 1>where I'm not hating myself into submission? I don't know.

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll report back to you guys in ten years if

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:48.640
<v Speaker 1>it all went well.

0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:52.080
<v Speaker 2>All from dragone?

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:58.279
<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hello, Hi? What is your name? Uh?

0:46:58.360 --> 0:46:59.080
<v Speaker 4>Dragone?

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's like the let's say they like the Pokemon

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:03.200
<v Speaker 1>mm hmm.

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:09.120
<v Speaker 4>My boyfriend and I are coloring some Pokemon right now, so.

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:13.239
<v Speaker 1>It sounds that sounds really fucking nice. You guys are

0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:16.040
<v Speaker 1>coloring together, dude, it really is.

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 4>And I feel like the last time we tried to

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:20.640
<v Speaker 4>color together we couldn't get into it this much. But

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:23.080
<v Speaker 4>now we're just coloring doodle and it's really nice.

0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:26.399
<v Speaker 1>That's fucking awesome. I gotta you know, what I gotta

0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:29.520
<v Speaker 1>write that down is an idea of something to do,

0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:31.680
<v Speaker 1>just like sit down and color. I can't. I don't

0:47:31.680 --> 0:47:33.120
<v Speaker 1>know when the last time I did that was.

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:35.759
<v Speaker 4>You should do it, definitely, it.

0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Sounds really nice. Well, dragon Night, I mean, we can

0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:45.919
<v Speaker 1>just you know, fuck around, But do you have something

0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 1>particular you want to talk about.

0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:52.880
<v Speaker 4>Well, I've been watching you for probably about a month now,

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:56.479
<v Speaker 4>and I have this thing with podcasts where I start

0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 4>from the very beginning, like your first video, have and

0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:04.480
<v Speaker 4>been watching it. But I guess kind of just been

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:07.640
<v Speaker 4>struggling with like figuring out what I want to do

0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:10.200
<v Speaker 4>as a jult, which I feel like is common. But

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:13.719
<v Speaker 4>I think I really like what you do, and I

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 4>really like talking to people and getting to know people

0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:18.040
<v Speaker 4>and like how they grew up to be the way

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:21.680
<v Speaker 4>they are. I just I don't know what career I

0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:22.320
<v Speaker 4>can make out of that.

0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:27.839
<v Speaker 1>Are you in college right now or what's up.

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:34.080
<v Speaker 4>No, I graduated high school a year ago and not

0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:37.640
<v Speaker 4>in college. I'm just working, just working and working.

0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Mhm. And so you want to do some kind of

0:48:42.719 --> 0:48:44.240
<v Speaker 1>job where you can like talk to people.

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:50.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I just I really like learning about how people

0:48:50.840 --> 0:48:54.080
<v Speaker 4>have grown up and how they become who they are

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:56.319
<v Speaker 4>and why they act like that. I just like, I've

0:48:56.520 --> 0:49:00.759
<v Speaker 4>been thinking about a therapist, but I don't I don't know.

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:04.440
<v Speaker 4>I feel like I would take their emotions to heart

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:07.040
<v Speaker 4>and it would like hurt me in some way.

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:07.920
<v Speaker 3>I guess you.

0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Feel like you would take their emotions to heart and

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:12.799
<v Speaker 1>it would hurt you in some way. I guess, well,

0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I guess well, I guess if you I mean, I

0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 1>could talk about my own life. Yeah, I mean I

0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I have no interest, ever, no interest ever in becoming

0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:37.239
<v Speaker 1>like an actual therapist, like having this kind of I mean,

0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of feels that's like a lot of responsibility.

0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, that's kind of and it's a lot

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:46.440
<v Speaker 1>of work, and it's a lot of school, and it's

0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:48.919
<v Speaker 1>a lot of like I mean, I I'm nothing close

0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:51.440
<v Speaker 1>to a real therapist. I just fuck around on a

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:56.400
<v Speaker 1>podcast and chat with people. But you know, I think

0:49:56.440 --> 0:49:58.719
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of nobility in becoming a real therapist

0:49:58.719 --> 0:50:04.320
<v Speaker 1>if you're you're you really really want to help people.

0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:08.719
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean I like learning about other people's

0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:13.120
<v Speaker 1>learned experiences, and I like getting to chat with a

0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:18.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of people, and so I just do it fucking

0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:20.000
<v Speaker 1>around on the internet. I do it in the phone

0:50:20.040 --> 0:50:22.920
<v Speaker 1>call stuff. I do it in the live shows, I

0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:27.480
<v Speaker 1>do it in the street, And there's nothing. If that's

0:50:27.520 --> 0:50:29.360
<v Speaker 1>what you want to do, you want to just make

0:50:29.920 --> 0:50:32.680
<v Speaker 1>you want to just go out into the fucking world

0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:35.640
<v Speaker 1>with a pencil and interview people. I mean you can

0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:40.600
<v Speaker 1>do that today. You know, you're right If we're talking

0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:43.960
<v Speaker 1>about like what do you want to do to make

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:46.959
<v Speaker 1>money so that you can live in a place and eat,

0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't necessarily have to be the same thing that

0:50:53.960 --> 0:51:02.160
<v Speaker 1>you do to you know, to to gain enrichment from life.

0:51:03.600 --> 0:51:03.719
<v Speaker 3>HM.

0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Well go ahead, No, go ahead.

0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:13.799
<v Speaker 4>I would just like, well, for a question for you,

0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:19.520
<v Speaker 4>is like what made you want to talk to people

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:20.840
<v Speaker 4>like this over the phone?

0:51:20.920 --> 0:51:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I this had this my this happened on accident. It

0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:28.520
<v Speaker 1>was yeah, this happened on accident. This was there was

0:51:28.600 --> 0:51:32.000
<v Speaker 1>never this was not there was this? What I my

0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:34.279
<v Speaker 1>life and what I do is not the result of

0:51:34.360 --> 0:51:39.440
<v Speaker 1>me going, uh oh, I really want to talk to people,

0:51:40.120 --> 0:51:42.120
<v Speaker 1>and uh maybe I could, maybe I could do this

0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:47.440
<v Speaker 1>therapy gecko thing that could be a thing. I just

0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:50.680
<v Speaker 1>was scoring around on the internet and people started calling

0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:56.800
<v Speaker 1>in and then as a result of fucking around, uh,

0:51:57.000 --> 0:52:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I kind of fell into doing this and it worked.

0:52:00.080 --> 0:52:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Then it was kind of this whole thing. But none

0:52:08.520 --> 0:52:12.719
<v Speaker 1>of this was not I like fell into a weird thing.

0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I always knew I wanted to do something that was

0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:18.000
<v Speaker 1>my own thing. I was always wanted to be like

0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:21.319
<v Speaker 1>an entrepreneur of some kind or do something that was

0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:26.240
<v Speaker 1>like weird or fun or interesting. But being a therapy

0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:32.520
<v Speaker 1>gecko was a complete accident. Hmm.

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:35.160
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I feel like a lot of things

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:37.719
<v Speaker 4>happened just by chance. Two So.

0:52:39.840 --> 0:52:43.160
<v Speaker 1>They do, they do, they do, but but they they Okay,

0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 1>they do, all right, let me add a let me

0:52:44.640 --> 0:52:48.600
<v Speaker 1>add something to this so therapy gin this thing that

0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing happened as a complete accident. But the accident

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:59.200
<v Speaker 1>happened as a result of a certain way that I

0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:03.960
<v Speaker 1>do think I is being intentional about my life, Like

0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:11.439
<v Speaker 1>I intentionally screwed around, you know, I was exerting intentional

0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:17.680
<v Speaker 1>effort into making stuff and doing stuff and trying new things,

0:53:18.440 --> 0:53:24.719
<v Speaker 1>and that created an accident. Does that make sense? So

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:26.919
<v Speaker 1>you have a desire that do you want to talk

0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:30.840
<v Speaker 1>to people? Right? You like, so, why don't you just

0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:35.799
<v Speaker 1>write down like five fucking ways that you could do

0:53:35.880 --> 0:53:40.920
<v Speaker 1>that and then just go do them. Just start doing stuff, okay,

0:53:42.480 --> 0:53:46.600
<v Speaker 1>and then and then maybe you'll run into a nice accident.

0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I was. I did like a So I went to

0:53:50.640 --> 0:53:54.200
<v Speaker 1>college at at Temple University in Philly, and I went

0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:59.040
<v Speaker 1>back there like a month ago to uh like talk

0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:04.680
<v Speaker 1>to students there and shit, and somebody asked me. They

0:54:04.680 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 1>were like, how do you figure out what you want

0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:09.480
<v Speaker 1>to do? And I didn't. I first split second, I

0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:11.720
<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't know. I'm currently trying to figure

0:54:11.719 --> 0:54:16.520
<v Speaker 1>out what I want to do, you know, with my life,

0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:19.399
<v Speaker 1>even though I already do this, I still I'm trying

0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:22.000
<v Speaker 1>to figure out, like, well, what do I really want

0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:25.560
<v Speaker 1>to do? And then the answer kind of came to me.

0:54:25.600 --> 0:54:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, uh, it's you have it flipped. He

0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:32.919
<v Speaker 1>I told me that it flipped somebody. I by the way,

0:54:32.920 --> 0:54:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm a hundred percent by the way, I don't want

0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:36.480
<v Speaker 1>to I'm like, ut my own ass right now. I

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:40.319
<v Speaker 1>almost certainly got this from somebody else just to be

0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I probably got this from like a YouTube comment or

0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:48.720
<v Speaker 1>some shit. But I think it's the other way around.

0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:51.799
<v Speaker 1>I think you're supposed to just do stuff and then

0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:54.040
<v Speaker 1>figure out what you want to do, because you sit

0:54:54.080 --> 0:54:55.640
<v Speaker 1>there trying to figure out what you want to do,

0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:57.279
<v Speaker 1>and then you don't figure out what you want to

0:54:57.320 --> 0:54:59.960
<v Speaker 1>do and then do it. You do things and then

0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:02.520
<v Speaker 1>and then figure out if you actually like the thing

0:55:02.560 --> 0:55:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you're doing.

0:55:04.120 --> 0:55:07.000
<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, just do more social things things then maybe

0:55:07.120 --> 0:55:10.759
<v Speaker 4>just meet more people just like Yeah, I think I

0:55:10.760 --> 0:55:14.000
<v Speaker 4>think you called it an omnivert or something someone that's

0:55:14.000 --> 0:55:16.200
<v Speaker 4>like extroverted and introverted.

0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh I ambivert ambivert.

0:55:19.000 --> 0:55:22.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I've been like I'm extroverted, but I've also

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:25.120
<v Speaker 4>been really introverted lady lately, and I want to make friends,

0:55:25.120 --> 0:55:29.280
<v Speaker 4>but I don't feel like coffee and it's just it's

0:55:29.320 --> 0:55:30.160
<v Speaker 4>not a fun cycle.

0:55:32.440 --> 0:55:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Well you're like nineteen, yeah, Well and you're a are

0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:40.120
<v Speaker 1>you in like a big.

0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:44.480
<v Speaker 4>City kind of next to a big city.

0:55:47.040 --> 0:55:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, and you don't go to school, yeah, because

0:55:53.560 --> 0:55:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess normally I guess, like, yeah, when I was nineteen.

0:55:56.920 --> 0:55:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I went to in college, and it's easy. It's it

0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:00.799
<v Speaker 1>does make it easier to be like because you're in

0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:04.680
<v Speaker 1>a big, walkable community with a bunch of fucking clubs

0:56:04.680 --> 0:56:08.319
<v Speaker 1>and shit going on. But right, I don't know, try

0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:09.759
<v Speaker 1>to leave your house as much as you can.

0:56:10.920 --> 0:56:14.360
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'll start doing that because I've been trying to

0:56:14.360 --> 0:56:16.080
<v Speaker 4>look for a second job because the job I do,

0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:17.839
<v Speaker 4>I just sit on the computer all ding, don't get

0:56:17.840 --> 0:56:23.359
<v Speaker 4>too much human interaction, yes, and sucks. Yeah, So I've

0:56:23.360 --> 0:56:25.400
<v Speaker 4>been trying to look for a second job, something that

0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:29.479
<v Speaker 4>has more socializing, I guess. So I'll just keep trying

0:56:29.480 --> 0:56:32.640
<v Speaker 4>to look for things to do outside.

0:56:34.840 --> 0:56:40.080
<v Speaker 1>What's your name again, dragon knighte? Dragon KNIGHTE. Uh, Well,

0:56:40.120 --> 0:56:41.920
<v Speaker 1>coloring is a good idea, Like I'm gonna ta I'm

0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:44.839
<v Speaker 1>gonna take a you've given me. I feel like you've

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<v Speaker 1>given me more advice on this than I have because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take the I'm gonna take your coloring thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, definitely do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else you want to say to the

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<v Speaker 1>people of the computer before we go.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think so. I just I really am inspired

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<v Speaker 4>by what you do. I think it's really click.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying my best keep it up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I like learning more about you, so you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, I'm trying to talk more about myself. It feels good.

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<v Speaker 1>I get why people want to hop on here and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about themselves. It feels it's fun to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>yourself on a podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm yeah. So yeah, I appreciate you talking to me.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been fun.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless you Dragon.

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<v Speaker 4>I take care you too, Bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man. I wish I was funnier. Sometimes I'll like,

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<v Speaker 1>like when I can't like when I find myself being

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<v Speaker 1>too sincere or like just talking very sincerely for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. Here's this happens to me all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be talking too sincerely for a while, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to say something stupid or try to be

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<v Speaker 1>funny to break up this long streak of me talking

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<v Speaker 1>sincerely and being up my own ass. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>try to say something funny and then it's just not funny.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm like, well, now I've just ruined this sincerity,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I get so I just don't say anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wish. I often wish I had something funnier

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<v Speaker 1>to say when I'm saying something sincere. But what That's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I accept myself for who I am in this very moment.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay. Whatever, whatever, let's fuck this, Let's play an ad.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck this, let's play an ad. We do we even

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<v Speaker 1>add after this? I don't know if I'm gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>this call. I don't know if I'm gonna put an

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<v Speaker 1>AD after this, or if it's going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the podcast. But whatever, I don't ask, but whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know. Sorry, I'm sorry. Goes

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<v Speaker 1>on the line every night.

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<v Speaker 6>Everythink goes towards Eye, who is teaching you how to

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<v Speaker 6>your life, but he's not really an expert.