1 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica and 2 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm Mela. Happy Wednesday mother, Happy Wednesday wife. How are 3 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: you feeling? I'm great? 4 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 2: How are you? 5 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 3: I am? 6 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm good. 7 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 3: I'm doing good, you know, mom life juggling being a 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 3: superstar and a mom trying to get people to pick 9 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 3: up my kid from school so I can interview the 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 3: biggest rock star of them all. 11 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: Agreed, Agreed, but all's well. 12 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 4: How are you? 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm great? You guys, if you are not following us 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: on YouTube, you should specifically now this is the time, 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: because bitches have leveled up today. 16 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: Okay, Actually I did a wrong thing and I started 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: to look at our our or comments on YouTube last night. 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: How would you do that? 19 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 4: I don't know. I was just curious. I was like 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 4: refraining from talking. 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: Shit you this is what you do in the late night. 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: I know. 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: I'm like you on Lipstick Alley, Like, why don't tell 24 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: me when I did that? 25 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 4: Secret? 26 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: Anyway, someone requested that we start showing our outfits. They 27 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 3: said they were fashion nistas. I mean, never show our outfits. 28 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: So I just wanted to say, for whoever wrote that comment. 29 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: Did you get dressed specifically for this you didn't even 30 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: know me. 31 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 4: I get dressed every day. 32 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? 33 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: I'd like to think that's for me. 34 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 3: Yes, we have our titties out and sometimes me and Erica. 35 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: Most of the time we always coordinate because we're spiritual, 36 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: which is wife's no. Oh my god, I'm okay. Let's 37 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 3: why should be introduce our guests. I was going to 38 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 3: tell about maur witchy incident over the weekend. It's really 39 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 3: not that intense. 40 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 1: But what she's talking about. 41 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: We were sitting in the somewhere and I had a 42 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: specific thought about a particular random person that we both know, 43 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: but it's not a very close person. It's someone who 44 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: lives in fucking Costa Rica. We do not talk to 45 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: him often. And I was like thinking of him, and 46 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: she turns and looks at me and goes, have you 47 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: talked to Gilly? And I said, stop right now, get 48 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 3: the fuck out of my head. 49 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 4: I do not appreciate it, and she's like, what are 50 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: you talking about? 51 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 3: I was like, bitch, I was literally thinking about this 52 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 3: nigga right this very instant, and you said this to me. 53 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: It scared me really bad. I mean not scared me, 54 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 3: like I knew we're connected and we're witches. 55 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 4: But that shit. 56 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: I was like, this is this is on a different 57 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: level of connection. I was like, are we talking without talking? 58 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: Are we that close that we're talking without moving our mouth? 59 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? 60 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's it's official. 61 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: We're witches. 62 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 4: Anyway, we have a very special guest here today. 63 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: Who's blessed us with this poppin' ass studio setting because 64 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: he's Poppington, the rock star of all the og the 65 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 3: original best to ever do it second time on our show, 66 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: the Dad, the entrepreneur. 67 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 4: The King, the mogul, the mogul. Damon, motherfucking dash. 68 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: I like that one. I was expecting an applause out 69 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: there that. 70 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: We can have that later. 71 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 4: How are you? 72 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: I'm good better now? 73 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: How are you? I miss you? Friend. Last time I 74 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: saw you was randomly in the backstages of Coach. 75 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you're having a ball. I was. 76 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: He was escorting his daughters around like a good dad. 77 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 4: The good rock star dad that he is literally like. 78 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: His daughter's like we're leaving, Dad, He's like, I gotta go. 79 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: They were really bossing his ass all over. 80 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: Erica told me she's like, yeah, I saw Dave. It 81 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 3: was so cute. She was he was here with his 82 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: daughter and his daughter's son. They're making out. He was 83 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: acting I mean daughter's boyfriend and not daughter's son. 84 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: They were kissing. They were getting real. It was right 85 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: in front of your face. 86 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: Was Eric I saw because she was like, damn, was 87 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: acting so cool and they were just making out. I 88 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: was like, guess that's what his rock star dad's all about. 89 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: You just act cool? 90 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 5: Well, you know, Ava, But I have a thing with 91 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 5: my daughter's is I'm actually like a straight slave for them. 92 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 5: And the reason why is because if they get with 93 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 5: a guy, the guy has to treat them at least 94 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 5: as good as me or as me, or if not better. 95 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 5: And you know, she has someone that really respects her 96 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 5: and that actually does the right thing by her. So 97 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 5: you know they're in a relationship, you know what I mean. 98 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 5: It's not like a hookup, even though if they're kissing, 99 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 5: I don't want to see that, but you know he's 100 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 5: doing and I know that. The reason why is because 101 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 5: she's seen our relationship Raquel's and I and the way 102 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 5: I treat her. 103 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: So she caught one a good one, you know. 104 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 5: But so he comes to Coachella, Like when I took 105 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 5: my daughter to Ava to Coachella when she was fourteen 106 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 5: years old. So then when Tulula turned fourteen, Ava leveraged 107 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 5: that and was like, you know, Tulula's fourteen, so we 108 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 5: all got to go to Coachella. So you got to 109 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 5: get the tickets, you got to get to the house. 110 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 5: And it was really nothing I could say to that, 111 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 5: and I actually enjoyed it, you know. 112 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 2: So I got that off. I don't know if Tallula. 113 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 5: Wanted to go as bad as maybe Ava, but she 114 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 5: got that off her bucket list. And I was able 115 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 5: to take both of my kids to Coachella when they 116 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 5: were a certain age and then together and then you know, 117 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 5: Ava graduated college. 118 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: That's amazing. 119 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, the good part about Ava is that I've taught 120 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 5: her a lot of my ideals, but she's like me 121 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 5: as a woman. But you know, I never have had 122 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 5: to feel that like pain of a daughter that's not 123 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 5: doing the right thing publicly, you know what I mean, 124 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 5: or just you know, sort of disrespecting or. 125 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: Growing or going through it. 126 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 5: She never went through it like that, and I appreciate that, 127 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 5: and I got to give a lot of those props 128 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 5: to her moms as well. But she's been classy she's 129 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 5: kept it classy and she's kept me proud, you know, 130 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 5: like she did it. She graduated college. And I didn't 131 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 5: care if she went to college, but she went. But 132 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 5: I'm proud, you know what I mean, she chose to go. 133 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 5: I'm more so proud that she got to go to 134 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 5: college without debt, you know what I mean. So that's 135 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 5: where that pride comes in. But she had the discipline 136 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 5: to do it. She's in a proper relationship. You know, 137 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 5: she does a modeling one too. 138 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: You know, both your kids are beautiful. First of all, 139 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: they're supermodels. 140 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, my two daughters. You know, I got Boogie and 141 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 5: Lucky and now baby Dustco as well. 142 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 2: Got boys. 143 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: Yes, all your kids, thank you. 144 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 5: We all make some beautiful kids. Yoh, I got some too, 145 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 5: Baby Dosco is ill. This is the first one I 146 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 5: was able to raise every single day and art detective 147 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 5: life where I never leave him, you know what I mean. 148 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 5: Like as soon as we've done here and right back there, 149 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 5: and I'm actually going to do an interview with my 150 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 5: daughter about our TV show and Love for a Living 151 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 5: about my children's amazing. 152 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 4: It's called in Love for a Living. 153 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. Rocket and I are in love 154 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: for a living. 155 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 4: I like that. I want to be in love for 156 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 4: a living. I mean, I am in love with you. 157 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 5: Well, the trick about making money is doing something that 158 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 5: you would do for free, something you enjoy so much 159 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 5: that you actually get paid for it, and it never 160 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 5: feels like work. So you know, why would you create 161 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 5: a career that doesn't include the person you want to 162 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 5: be around the most. That means you're not going to 163 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 5: be around her or him when you're promoting and you're 164 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 5: all doing what you got to do. 165 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: So my model, even with. 166 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 5: My ex wife Rachel, I create businesses with them so 167 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 5: that you know, we can do it together and we 168 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 5: never leave each other. And you know, when there's a 169 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 5: dream that's made, I was there to help make it 170 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 5: come true because overall, that's what your man is supposed 171 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 5: to do. He's supposed to make your dreams come true. 172 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 5: If your man is not making your dreams come true, 173 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 5: he's not your man. 174 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: Do you hear that? 175 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 4: That's a fucking word? 176 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: Do you hear that? No, it's been I've I have 177 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: really loved watching the evolution of you and Roquel, because 178 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: I've known you now for almost ten years. 179 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: I think more than that. 180 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: No, I mean it was right right before I got pregnant. 181 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: That's when we first met. Yeah, like a year before that. 182 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so like eight eight nine years my daughter seven. 183 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and with the vitata, yeah yeah, that's the Veta. 184 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: She just like defriended me. 185 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 5: I don't know why she's around, I know, but she 186 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 5: never had She doesn't check any she don't. 187 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: She don't be going nowhere. 188 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: She would be on the ground, she don't. 189 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: She's fighting people's rights. 190 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: That's good. 191 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: People. But I know, Rocky started off as your assistant 192 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: and then grew into being like the wife your Wifey. 193 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: She changed my life unsuspectedly. 194 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: In what ways did you think she changed your life? 195 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 5: Well, she became my muse, and I wanted different qualities 196 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 5: in a woman that I had prior to so before 197 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 5: in a very egotistical way. I was really into dating 198 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 5: famous women and models and all that other ship. And 199 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 5: you know, I was really, really completely and everyone knows 200 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 5: it's in love with Aleah. And even while she was alive, 201 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 5: the relationship was painful because she was always gone and 202 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 5: I was always gone. We both we're professionals, and again 203 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 5: we weren't working together. But you know, I forgot what 204 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 5: I was talking about. 205 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: What we were talking about, well, just saying how like 206 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: how your expectations what. 207 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 5: You so, you know, around the time I met Rocky, 208 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 5: it was like I just wanted a girl that was 209 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 5: beautiful in the morning. 210 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: When she woke up like that, that was it. 211 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 5: I was like, as long as when we wake up 212 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 5: she's gorgeous, you know, because that's when you spend the 213 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 5: most time. Like when you get into a relationship with somebody, 214 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 5: you got to wake up with them every day and 215 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 5: go to sleep with him. And it's not like you're 216 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 5: out and dressed up. It's how good you look when 217 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 5: you dressed down, And she's just perfect when she's dressed up, 218 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And then you know, it 219 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 5: was about her showing me the things that I wasn't 220 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 5: really able to do because I became successful relatively young. 221 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 5: So going to supermarkets and just walking around in the 222 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 5: street and walking dogs and one of the bars, just 223 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 5: regular shit was like a big deal for me. And 224 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 5: she enjoyed things. And because she didn't know who I 225 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 5: was when she met me, she never had any expectation, 226 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 5: so everything that I did is a surprise to her. 227 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 5: Or do there's no everyone else that I've ever met. 228 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 5: It's just this is like an entitlement of everything being 229 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 5: big Willie no matter what you know. But her her family, 230 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 5: there's no entitlement. You know, they had no expectation. It's just, 231 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 5: you know, everything feels like appreciate it. So she's always 232 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 5: appreciated everything that a lot of people don't. And then 233 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 5: just like you know, wanting it, knowing like wanting a 234 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 5: girl that paints and it takes pictures and draws and 235 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 5: you know those kind of cooks you know, take does yoga, 236 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 5: you know, takes good care of herself. You know, when 237 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 5: someone takes good care of themselves, by default, they got 238 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 5: to take good care of you. 239 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: You know. 240 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 5: So if you see a person a partner in their 241 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 5: house is dirty, then don't expect them to clean yours. 242 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 5: If they don't cook for themselves, you can't expect them 243 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 5: to cook for you, you know. So if somebody doesn't 244 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 5: do something for themselves, it's rare they're going to be 245 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 5: able to do it for someone else. That's the reason 246 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 5: why when I work with people, they have to have 247 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 5: a dream and I have to see them working on it, 248 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 5: because the amount of work you put into your dream 249 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 5: is probably exactly the amount of work that you're putting into. Mind, 250 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 5: So if I see being lackadaysical about your own, I 251 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 5: know you being lackadaisical about mine, right, I. 252 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 3: Mean, then, even if you are putting more into my 253 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 3: shit than your own, how long will that last? If 254 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 3: you are not committed to yourself. There's something to be 255 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 3: said about someone more committed to the relationship than to themselves. 256 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 4: I don't think that's healthy. 257 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: Well, I find people that are totally like will commit 258 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: to other people's dreams versus their own, and that's not 259 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: the right relationship. 260 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 4: Do you But do you want that person? 261 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: Of course not. But I think I see that all 262 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,119 Speaker 1: the time, and just in every aspect, not just relationships, 263 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: and as well. 264 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 5: I think the thing about relationship of finding the perfect 265 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 5: partner is like with rocky things that people look at 266 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 5: in other relationships that I've had as faults, she finds 267 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 5: as strengths. 268 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 2: You understand what I mean? 269 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:13,239 Speaker 4: What are some examples. 270 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: She doesn't mind women around, She doesn't mind it at all. 271 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 3: Well, And when you say women around, are there just 272 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: women around in the house and the bathing suits and 273 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 3: all the cuttle pockets and the pool, are you interacting 274 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: with women? Are you just making three way kissing them? 275 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: Like? 276 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 3: What level of around is she accepting of? And the 277 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: people weren't prior to her. 278 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: The level of accepting when you guys were in the pool. 279 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 4: I haven't announcement. 280 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: I want to tell you, Dame, after that pool they so, 281 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: I know everyone hears this. If you're listening, if you're 282 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 3: a longtime listener, you know that I'm a three way 283 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 3: kissing bitch. 284 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 4: I'd be three way kissing. 285 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: I don't know why it brings so much joy to 286 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 3: my heart does, but it's it's because of Dame. 287 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: I know you really didn't. You lit the fire in her. 288 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 3: Ever since, Dame, I have been three way kissing. Ever since, 289 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 3: I have been on like a like a fucking manifesto. 290 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 4: Come everyone gather around you. You you no, we can't 291 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 4: do that. We did four too, I have you know, 292 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 4: I reserved the four for us. 293 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 3: I haven't taken that far, but I have three way 294 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: my fucking life away. 295 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 5: I wasn't expecting you to say all that. I see 296 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 5: what we're working with now. I appreciate that. 297 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 298 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: Last time, last time Erica and I went to the house, 299 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 3: we all went swimming, and. 300 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: Why not Damon gave us. 301 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 4: What kind of show did you think you were on? 302 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: Dave? 303 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 4: I know, we're never rock star moms. 304 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: The fun we're rock star moms. 305 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 3: We tell it like it is in the pool, and 306 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 3: then Rocky came and then we wait. 307 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: Okay, let's we don't want to tell everybody. 308 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 4: So I thought it was lovely. 309 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: No, No, that was great. 310 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 4: Anyway back to you. 311 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 5: Damn, I got out, Dame dash that's crazy was the 312 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 5: next question. 313 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 4: He that you hear that? 314 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 3: Guys, I've out, Damon. Damon started sweat. I'm sorry bringing 315 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 3: it back. 316 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: So what you're saying you think previously in relationships have 317 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: you have you tried to fit into a box of 318 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: like what's like a normal I guess monogamous relationship would 319 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: look like. 320 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 5: I think I was always tried to put be put 321 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 5: in a box. No, Like, if you're attracted to a 322 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 5: man because women like him, and then you get with him, 323 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 5: you can't be mad at women still being attracted to him. 324 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 5: And you know, if he's a witty, humorous, flirtatious kind 325 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 5: of a guy or charming, you can't expect the person 326 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 5: to stop being charming. 327 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: You know, how do you think you balance that though, like, 328 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,479 Speaker 1: how do you I mean, obviously. 329 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: I know Rocky and I'm with Rocky every single day. 330 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 4: You guys get tired of each other. 331 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 5: Never, That's the thing. I never get tired of being 332 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 5: around Rocky. You see, I don't be out. I got 333 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 5: what I'm looking for. I'm not out recruiting. I'm not 334 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 5: out recruiting, you know. And I don't disrespect our relationship 335 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 5: by lying. So, you know, we have a very honest relationship. 336 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 5: And it just so happens that she's one of the 337 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 5: most confident people I've ever met in my life because 338 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 5: it's not like an issue that has to be pushed. 339 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 5: She doesn't like dudes around me, Like she doesn't like dudes. 340 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 5: I don't like dudes, you know what I'm saying. So 341 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 5: we have that in common. But she really does, like 342 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 5: she feels you know, she knows, I guess from being 343 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 5: around me. She knows every single thing a dude's not saying, 344 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 5: and what a dude is thinking, and what a dude 345 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 5: has the potential to do, you know, So she just 346 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 5: like cut all of that off completely. 347 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: So you know, I have. 348 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 5: Friends, and I have a lot and I have consistent 349 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 5: relationships with them, but they don't entail me being away 350 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 5: from my girl, but it doesn't entail my girl being 351 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 5: around a bunch of dudes, you know what I mean. 352 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: So it works out that way. 353 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: So now that I know you guys, you guys just 354 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: had a baby, were not just how does dusk going 355 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: to year and a half? Year and a half times? 356 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: It's flying And essentially, I mean, I guess it's almost 357 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: like a second chance of fatherhood for you. Not that 358 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: like you needed a second chance, but like we said, 359 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: like this is the first so I. 360 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: Needed I needed a fifth chance. That was my fifth chance. 361 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: I needed it, sorry fifth And I know, I know, Rocky, 362 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, she really really wanted a child as well. 363 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 5: That's all she wanted, right, She didn't care about anything 364 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 5: but having a child. And actually we went through IVF 365 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 5: and fairly far along in the pregnancy it went wrong 366 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 5: and you know that didn't work out, and a year 367 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 5: later we had a baby. I mean, we really had to. 368 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 5: Well yeah, and we're starting the process again today. Yesterday 369 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 5: she started taking the shows. I'm like, yo, I'm fifty one, man. 370 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 5: If we're gonna do this, we gotta do this now. 371 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 5: But yeah, every relationship that I've had Prior to this one, 372 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 5: I've had to fight to see my children. My children 373 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 5: have been used to hurt me, which hurts them, and 374 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 5: my children haven't been able to have the luxury of 375 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 5: seeing both of us at the same time and enjoying 376 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 5: both of us at the same time and not seeing 377 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 5: me hurt because I missed them so much. So being 378 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 5: able to art detect the world where I can be 379 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 5: with my child every I've been with baby Dusco every 380 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 5: single day since he's been born, Like I've flown places 381 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 5: and come back to New York and back and think 382 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 5: New York and back in the day Nicolett and I 383 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 5: just because I can't be I can't do it. I 384 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 5: have a different option. And it's the best feeling in 385 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 5: the world. There's nothing better, you know, like just watching 386 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 5: your baby grow and being able to invest time and him, 387 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 5: be able to just be with both of us or 388 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 5: one of us and just pivot back like it's crazy 389 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 5: to be able. 390 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: I know that I've been. 391 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 5: I've been the person that's rocked him to sleep because 392 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 5: every day. 393 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: More than anyone. It's not like we swim three times 394 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: a day. 395 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 5: We went to the doctor yesterday and the doctor was 396 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 5: like he's at a four year old level. You know 397 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 5: the things he's doing. And I don't think, you know, 398 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 5: he's a super genius. I just I think every child 399 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 5: is a super genius if both parents can invest a 400 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 5: certain amount of time. 401 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 2: And that's another thing. Is Rocky does that? She done, 402 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 2: made two. 403 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 5: Books, coloring books, she makes his food from You know, 404 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 5: he's complete. 405 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: It's the dream. 406 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 5: And I always remember where I came from all the time, 407 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 5: not to say the hood, just where I was mentally 408 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 5: and what was hurting me, So I know what was 409 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 5: hurting me before it was hurting me that I couldn't 410 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 5: see my children. My whole life has been court and 411 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 5: being positioned just so I could see them the moments 412 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 5: that I can, the pain of missing them on holidays 413 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 5: and birth days, and Rocky stuck with me through actually 414 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 5: every bit of that since Tallula was born. And then 415 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 5: I know the pain of wanting to have a baby 416 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 5: with a woman and it not working out so quickly, 417 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 5: knowing that it's the perfect relationship, like finally I got 418 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 5: the woman, but we can't have the baby, and I 419 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 5: subsequently we went through some shit that I never ever 420 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 5: went through, you know, a different kind of pain, but 421 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 5: I knew that the only reason for that darkness was 422 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 5: because the light was going to be crazy. 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That's everlywell 516 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 3: dot com slash GNBC for twenty percent off your next 517 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 3: at home lab test Everywell dot com slash gmbc. 518 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 5: Like a lot of people don't get to go through that. 519 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 5: You get that lighter back, you got to be a 520 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 5: lighter passer, backup past that fireback. 521 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's amazing. I think obviously, I think 522 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: as mothers and women, this is something that we you know, 523 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: we had Joe Budden on the show and he he 524 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 1: said that mothers are the primary parent and I took 525 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: issue with that because I felt like, no, motherfucker, this 526 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: is a this is a two per situation. We both 527 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: laid down had this baby and said we were going 528 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: to be there to hear what you're saying and saying 529 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: that you want to be there through every step of 530 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: the way and be involved. 531 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,719 Speaker 2: Every doctor's appointment, and that's what I mean. 532 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: He said that that's just how it goes and I said, no, 533 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: that's a choice. 534 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 2: That's a choice. 535 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: That's for sure a choice like men make that choice 536 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: of like, yeah, you got it, No. 537 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 5: I got what happens when you get to spend that time, 538 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 5: you get to see how hard it is to raise 539 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 5: a child or baby because a baby needs to be 540 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 5: watched twenty four seven. They're always moving around, so it's 541 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 5: hard to have time for yourself. So if Rocky didn't 542 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 5: have the support system, I would I don't even know. 543 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 5: It's still hard with the support system, but you know 544 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 5: we I'm no one's complaining. We love that kind of hard, 545 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Paul, So. 546 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: So I know again. 547 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 5: I was having an argument with a debate with one 548 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 5: of my friends that I resp backed a lot, and 549 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 5: I was like, yo, women and God to me man, 550 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 5: I'm a slave for and you know that's what makes 551 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 5: me a king and that's why I deserve a queen. 552 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 5: And he was like, no, you bugging. The man is 553 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 5: the prior and the man is I'm like, yo, everything 554 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 5: under man's control is fucked up. He's still fighting wars. 555 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 5: Don't see no women really setting it on people like that. 556 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 5: You feel me like it's crazy, it's all under the 557 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 5: world is. 558 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 2: Messed up under men's control. 559 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 5: So of course a man is going to make women 560 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 5: believe that they're smarter. But women create life and that's 561 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 5: the closest thing to God, I know, and I get 562 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 5: a lot of pushback for that, but I don't care. 563 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 5: That's just that's that's what's made my life to what 564 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 5: it is. 565 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 4: Do you think you would? 566 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I agree one thousand percent, And I think 567 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 3: that's why the world isn't a deep imbalance, because men 568 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 3: have been tricked into believing that otherwise. But it's not 569 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 3: really hard to figure out if you're paying attention. Do 570 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 3: you think you would have been that aware had you 571 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 3: not taken this last like, had this experience and been 572 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 3: in the house every day raising your child. 573 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, never. 574 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 5: I can't believe how much work it is to be 575 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 5: a mom, you know, and that women do this on 576 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 5: their own, and that men don't have the strength to 577 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 5: see it through where a woman just won't give up 578 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 5: on their child. So when you just say let your 579 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 5: mother take care of it, that's like saying I'm giving 580 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 5: up on my child. 581 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: And then you're not visualizing how much work. 582 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 5: Like when I think about rocky doing certain things I 583 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 5: think about or even me what it's going to look 584 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 5: like in the future, carrying a baby while you going 585 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 5: shopping or going to the doctor, and what could happen 586 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 5: and all these things. I just I couldn't have pictured that. 587 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 5: It's that much work to take care of a baby. 588 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 5: And I actually have to give my you know, my 589 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 5: other kids mom's kudos despite how I feel, because they 590 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 5: took their challenge on and they they did a lot 591 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 5: without me. 592 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: You know, I just would. 593 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 5: I don't know why they chose that, you know what 594 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 5: I mean, I was fighting to be there, Like that's 595 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 5: the crazy shit is I'd be the one fighting to 596 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 5: be there. 597 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 2: You know. 598 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 5: You got to remember I had custody of Boogie when 599 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 5: he was eight, so I was a single father, and 600 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 5: I wouldn't do that to another child ever. 601 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 2: Again, it's affected him to this day. 602 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: Do you think it's your lifestyle, the rock star lifestyle 603 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: that they like they don't understand or they don't they 604 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: don't understand even like the idea that you know, you 605 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: would have other women in the house and also be 606 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: married essentially, and that's not the I'm just curious because, 607 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: like I know, because you have perspectives. 608 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: My first child, I was twenty so it was never 609 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: really like that. 610 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: M hm. 611 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: And you know, I was married to Rachel. 612 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 5: And again, I have so much respect for my children 613 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 5: that I don't really get into that. 614 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 615 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, they she just 616 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 5: wasn't like you know, I guess Rachel was like with 617 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 5: like swing on girls the club, like jealousy, just just disrespect, 618 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 5: like a girl might just come up and kiss me 619 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 5: and she'd be like and it be the whackest punch 620 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 5: in the world, you know what I mean. 621 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 2: And I'd be like, you gotta stop doing that. You 622 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Somebody's gonna whip your ass, like 623 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 624 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 5: So it wasn't even about And again I would never 625 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 5: what I've been used as an example of, which is 626 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 5: even great. My daughters will probably never get with a 627 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 5: man like me, you understand, I mean, they know what 628 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 5: a man like me is. 629 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's a choice. 630 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: Would you want your daughters to date a man like you? 631 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 5: No, I want my daughter to date the man like 632 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 5: she's dating, like he does everything, but he's not. 633 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: He has you know. 634 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 5: And again it's not you have to understand the issues 635 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 5: I have. You know, these are like I think they 636 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 5: weren't me sometimes being a little insecure. My mother died 637 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 5: and that was my worst nightmare when I was like fifteen, 638 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 5: and that from in that space on, I was very 639 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 5: leary about letting myself get close to a woman. And 640 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 5: then I get close to a woman and she dies 641 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 5: in a plane crash. So of course I'm like, I 642 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 5: have a fear of being invested, and only you know 643 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 5: what I mean. It's like I already know it. You 644 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 5: know what I mean, and I think Rocky understands that. 645 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 646 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 5: But it's not like I'm not don't get a twisted 647 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 5: I'm not in a bunch of relationships with a bunch 648 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 5: of women at all. It's just they be around, you 649 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 5: know what I mean. They're around to hang out and 650 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 5: to kick it. But she just doesn't have any issues 651 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 5: with it, you know what I mean. Where the women 652 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 5: that I've been with before just they just didn't want 653 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 5: girls around me at all. But again I wouldn't either, 654 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. But I think our relationship 655 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 5: would be different if I wasn't around Rockel every single day. 656 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 5: So if I was leaving her to be with other 657 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 5: around women, that would be different. But I don't want to. 658 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 5: I have no desire to do that. You know what 659 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like, what's your I forgot? 660 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, tars, Oh that makes total sense. 661 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 4: Your birthday just passed. 662 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, happy birthday. 663 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: Thank you? 664 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: Grounded home life is really important. You like nice things, stability, independence, independence. 665 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: Are you a preature of habit? Like you do? Order 666 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: the same shit over and over again. You go to 667 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: the same places, Yeah. 668 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: Eat the same food. I mean, I don't like to 669 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 2: take chances. And I like to. 670 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 5: Control my environment. Mhm, so like Coachella. I can't control 671 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 5: the environment, so anxiety all those people. But I do 672 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 5: like to be able to make my rules, you know, 673 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 5: without them breaking any laws. 674 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: What I think, what I was going to say is 675 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: that you know, I know you have a son and 676 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: a baby son, a baby son, and obviously you share this, 677 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: you share this perspective of that women are gods and 678 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: all these things. Like, I guess, in what ways do 679 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: you are you going to raise him different than you 680 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,959 Speaker 1: were able to with your sons? Obviously I know they 681 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: were there, I know you're there, but it's anything different 682 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: that you would change versus the lessons you taught your 683 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: older sons versus you know, now having a much younger son. 684 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 5: Well, the difference between my first son and the rest, 685 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 5: it was like I had just made all that money 686 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 5: as I had him, so it was like I didn't 687 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 5: really know how I was new money and I had 688 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 5: he was outside. 689 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: Him and my nephews was too cool. I wanted them 690 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: to be as cool as me. 691 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 5: But that's too cool because I get you in trouble, 692 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 5: you know, you gotta be They was outside. So like 693 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 5: you know again, I had boogie with all my nephews, 694 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 5: the heirs, Darien and little Darien, Nico Dash now little Stevie, 695 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 5: little Bobby, and little Kathy and even little Austin out 696 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 5: here Stacy's son. 697 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: Those little motherfuckers are all the same age. And they 698 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: was bad. 699 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 5: And you know what I would do is I would 700 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 5: give them my cars. I didn't really use, like my van, 701 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 5: like I had the van custom before everybody, but once 702 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 5: I got sick, I'd give it to them. And their 703 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 5: nanny was basically a driver with a gun. And I 704 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 5: would hear now that they're older, i'd hear the stories 705 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 5: and I'm like, and they all got in trouble or 706 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 5: every last one of them. You know, they're are like 707 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 5: they're good now. But for my other nephews and my kids, 708 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 5: especially my boys, I tried to keep a lot of 709 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 5: that cool shit. I teach them the ideals, but I 710 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 5: didn't want it. Wasn't like I don't have them running around, 711 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 5: you know. I almost wanted to be a little corny, 712 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 5: just a touch, you know what I mean. Too cool 713 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 5: means you've dealt with pain too much. 714 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: Too cool to get you fucked up out here. 715 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 4: I have a question speaking of pain. 716 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 3: I know you've talked about, you know, just understanding how 717 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 3: you relate to women from your past experiences and some 718 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 3: of your trauma from your mom and the relationship that 719 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 3: you had. How have you like that's first of all, 720 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 3: bomb to be able to recognize exactly where it's inflicted 721 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 3: and how it's affected you in your relationships. But how 722 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 3: have you worked on healing that? 723 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 2: Like? 724 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 4: Are you in therapy? 725 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 5: And yeah, I did a lot of I still do 726 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 5: therapy every week. But I'm lucky enough to have like 727 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 5: a friend that's a therapist. So you know, we got 728 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 5: that show Healing is Gangster, But before that, like when 729 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 5: I'd have to get court order therapy, like I had 730 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 5: to go through like supervised visitations and therapy just to 731 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 5: see my children. 732 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 2: But it really did help. I'm glad I went through it. 733 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 5: So what I learned was when you're spending time with 734 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 5: your child, like I had Ava and Boogie, they used 735 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 5: to be in my world with me. So they'd come 736 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 5: to the office, my office, and they come to my events, 737 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 5: and I felt like that was me spending time with them. 738 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 5: What I learned was I have to go to their office, 739 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 5: so you know, it became for tulula tulula time, and 740 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 5: we would make you know that, we would make her environment. 741 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 5: I would basically go to a seven eight year old's 742 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 5: environment and create that. 743 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 2: So now if you go. 744 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 5: Into baby duscos it's an environment, it's his environment. We 745 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 5: don't really try to bring him in our environment so often. 746 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 5: That's why he doesn't come to the office. You know, 747 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 5: we uh, we create an environment of his that we 748 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 5: hang out in. 749 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you said that, because I think 750 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: that's something that a lot of parents miss, not just 751 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:29,919 Speaker 1: dads and moms too. 752 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 5: But well, I had to get professional help to realize 753 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 5: that I didn't just that wasn't just something in your mind. 754 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: You were like, what I'm doing, I'm spending the time, 755 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: or at the show, they're seeing Janet Jackson in person, 756 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,439 Speaker 1: they're doing this, Like what the fuck are they complaining about. 757 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 5: What's crazy is how confidence you could be in something 758 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 5: that you're so wrong, and then when you figure out 759 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 5: or find out or get enlightened or have that epiphany, 760 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 5: it's your responsibility to change immediately. But some people don't, 761 00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 5: even though they're conscious, they go by pattern. But yeah, therapists, 762 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 5: I needed that? 763 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: Was that just one? Was that just one breakthrough? Like 764 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: they just she just broke it down like that and 765 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: you just understood it or it took time for you 766 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: to get together and they stood it. 767 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 5: As soon as she said it, because I saw, you know, 768 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 5: when I went to the therapy. It wasn't like us 769 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 5: sitting in a therapist from what we were in like 770 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 5: a nurse, you know, like a romper room type shit 771 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 5: places