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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Mickey Spagnola Edition of Mick Shots. Bill Jones with
Speaker 1: Everson Walls and Mickey Spagnola, who is one of the
Speaker 1: very few people in the entire world who can go
Speaker 1: onto the premises of a National Football League facility on
Speaker 1: a Monday or Tuesday. That's where Mickey is. He is
Speaker 1: hunkered down inside the SWBC Mortgage studios. How do you
Speaker 1: get such privileges, Mickey, I don't need essential. Yeah, I'm essential, right,
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I don't know that it's a privilege.
Speaker 1: It's sort of a necessity to be here for some
Speaker 1: of the work. But I can tell you this, there
Speaker 1: ain't too many people up there. We're in our department
Speaker 1: coming in on Tuesday. By the way, I think there's two.
Speaker 1: I think there's two of us up there. Let's just
Speaker 1: be real. Bill Spags is having problems at home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's okay. We've got you. We got your bag, buddy.
Speaker 1: Ever right under the bus right off the shop. Well,
Speaker 1: but more specifically on that. As far as NFL essential personnel,
Speaker 1: this has been going on for a few weeks now.
Speaker 1: They can't be on at team facilities here on Monday
Speaker 1: or Tuesday day, and so Mickey happens to be in
Speaker 1: another The Star in Frisco is so large that Mickey
Speaker 1: can be in a non essential wing of the Star
Speaker 1: and that's why he can be on the premises, right, Mickey,
Speaker 1: do you realize I can't even remember the last time
Speaker 1: I was on the other side of the building. It
Speaker 1: might have been middle of January something like that. I
Speaker 1: believe that because after that we had, you know, no
Speaker 1: reason to be over there, and then you know, with
Speaker 1: a little bit of time off and then there, I mean,
Speaker 1: we just didn't go. I think the last time they
Speaker 1: did a deal with the assistant coaches, and I think
Speaker 1: that was maybe been the last time anybody has been
Speaker 1: over there, because then February hit and there was no
Speaker 1: reason to be over there, and then by the middle
Speaker 1: of March that that was it. It was closed down.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm gonna go through a whole season without
Speaker 1: seeing three quarters of the players on this team or
Speaker 1: meeting them. If you can think about that, I know that,
Speaker 1: I know Mickey. That is the most important thing. Everyone's
Speaker 1: wondering about whether Mickey Spagnola has access to the team.
Speaker 1: But there's a lesser important aspect of that as well.
Speaker 1: And I was talking with Mike last week. We were
Speaker 1: taping the Mike McCarthy Show on Wednesday. We normally would
Speaker 1: do it Tuesday. Of course, Cowboys played on Tuesday, and
Speaker 1: we normally tape his show on Tuesday, while we've switched
Speaker 1: it to Wednesday now because he can't be at a
Speaker 1: facility on Tuesdays during a normal work week like this
Speaker 1: one is. But I asked, And last week they were
Speaker 1: using the television studio to tape a Salvation Army segment,
Speaker 1: and so I was actually in the press conference room
Speaker 1: right there in the eighth my segment of the show,
Speaker 1: virtually with McCarthy over in the coaches wing, the player's wing,
Speaker 1: uh the football operations wing. And so I asked, I
Speaker 1: asked McCarthy, I said, have you even been to this
Speaker 1: side of the building? And he do you even know
Speaker 1: where the press conference room is? And he doesn't even
Speaker 1: know where it is. He has not been to the
Speaker 1: press conference room because of course, the pandemic hit in
Speaker 1: March and the Cowboys offseason didn't start until um, you know,
Speaker 1: and it was virtually when it did start in April.
Speaker 1: And you know, his opening press conference was done at
Speaker 1: Ford Center at the Star. He has no idea where
Speaker 1: even the press conference room is at the Star in Frisco.
Speaker 1: That's how crazy this year is. So you tape his show,
Speaker 1: you guys aren't together, No, but I'm in this. I'm
Speaker 1: in the TV studio and he is where he does
Speaker 1: normally does his press conference, which is adjacent to his
Speaker 1: office there on the and the operations wing inside Ford
Speaker 1: Center because they're supposed to be coming over to this
Speaker 1: side because we aren't the testing, right, we can't can't
Speaker 1: have any exposure to us. That's right, you guys. You
Speaker 1: guys are just uh. It's not nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the Corona. You guys are just play. That's what it is.
Speaker 1: If if they could have done this years ago, they
Speaker 1: wouldn't have done this, right, This is only use now,
Speaker 1: this a long time ago that we could get away
Speaker 1: from the media like this. I would I would imagine
Speaker 1: the post vaccine world up at the Star. If McCarthy
Speaker 1: has anything to do with it. It won't change from
Speaker 1: what it looks like right now. Not being around you guys,
Speaker 1: I would imagine the only time I've been down down
Speaker 1: there in the in the studio area was when we
Speaker 1: were outside, and of course I went to the wrong area,
Speaker 1: you know, Spats gave me specific instructions, and of course
Speaker 1: I still screwed it up. So I was over the
Speaker 1: main are. Yeah, I was about to go downstairs where
Speaker 1: we do the podcast, you know, pre COVID, and man,
Speaker 1: they sent me through the ringer, you know, I had
Speaker 1: to do all of this and then in the test
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, where's fags and you guys are outside.
Speaker 1: So after all of that I ended up. Of course
Speaker 1: I didn't want to tell y'all this story before the
Speaker 1: show went outside, but yeah, I stumbled into that area
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's you know, it's it's like a
Speaker 1: ghost town over there. I have an office, my Ethos
Speaker 1: Education UH Foundation has an office in the formation, and
Speaker 1: I haven't been there either. I got this one kidney,
Speaker 1: so I'm not even thinking about going around anyone and
Speaker 1: being in those close confines. Oh sure, Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: understandable and you know, as it relates to McCarthy, go ahead, Mickey,
Speaker 1: now go ahead and finished with McCarthy and well, I
Speaker 1: was gonna I was gonna say, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: relates to a team that's struggled now at a four
Speaker 1: and nine record, and you know, the different storylines that
Speaker 1: emerge as you know the heat is on the coaching
Speaker 1: staff and so forth. It really affects things. The way
Speaker 1: media covers the team too. We don't have and the
Speaker 1: mintal media in general does not have access beyond the
Speaker 1: zoom press conferences, the WebEx press conferences that are done
Speaker 1: where you don't have the walk off with the coach
Speaker 1: to get perspective on things. You don't have the opportunity
Speaker 1: to talk off the record with coaches or players or
Speaker 1: so forth, and it really it hurts the ability for
Speaker 1: the media to do their job, and I think in
Speaker 1: the end it hurts even the perspective of the coaches
Speaker 1: and the players because what they are actually thinking, even
Speaker 1: in an off the record perspective, is not able to
Speaker 1: get out there to the media as easily as it
Speaker 1: would in a normal year. Yeah, it's very It becomes
Speaker 1: very sanitized because everybody gets the same information right. And
Speaker 1: you know the other thing that I think it also
Speaker 1: does is when you don't have face to face contact
Speaker 1: with somebody, a player or coach that you're writing about,
Speaker 1: I think it encourages people to take shots because you
Speaker 1: don't have to be confronted with whatever you say or
Speaker 1: whatever you write. Right, No one's gonna like, oh hey,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, now, what did you say about me?
Speaker 1: And you don't get that right, And you don't get
Speaker 1: a choice of who you want to talk to. It's
Speaker 1: basically who they provide for you to talk. Like yesterday,
Speaker 1: you know, we got the coordinators finally, it's been a
Speaker 1: while since we've been able to have a conference call
Speaker 1: with them. So you after Mike did his deal, the
Speaker 1: coordinator spent ten minutes or so answering questions. But it's
Speaker 1: easy to throw hard questions at somebody when they aren't
Speaker 1: looking at you face to face. Um, you know, same
Speaker 1: thing like yesterday when Stephen got peppered about. You know,
Speaker 1: is Mike McCarthy's job safe? You know, it's like all right,
Speaker 1: you know, I understand you want to ask that, and
Speaker 1: you can ask tough questions, but it's easier to ask
Speaker 1: him tough when you're separated, right, and uh so I
Speaker 1: think that's changed things also, by the way, one thing
Speaker 1: I was going to point out, I think before I
Speaker 1: came down, the NFL PA did a conference call and
Speaker 1: they had uh one of the their doctors, doctor Tom Mayer.
Speaker 1: Uh he was he was on the conference call and
Speaker 1: one of the questions he got and I thought this
Speaker 1: was somewhat important what they were going to tell the
Speaker 1: players about the vaccine like and it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: he first said, uh, you know, you can't make them
Speaker 1: take the vaccine. We would recommend, amended, But he also
Speaker 1: said that what they're telling the players is there. It's
Speaker 1: not known yet when this group of people in society
Speaker 1: will be the vaccine will be available, and he said,
Speaker 1: and it would be unlikely for anyone in the team
Speaker 1: area to be vaccinated before February first, so meeting before
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, but he said it's there. It's their
Speaker 1: duty though, to let the players know about the side
Speaker 1: effects that are generally mild and that they only last
Speaker 1: maybe a day or so if indeed you get any
Speaker 1: side effects. So I thought that was very interesting. And
Speaker 1: he was talking about how the vaccines ninety four effective
Speaker 1: for the people and that they would certainly encourage the
Speaker 1: players and their families to get vaccinated, not only for
Speaker 1: your own good, but to help everybody else out, because
Speaker 1: you know, you don't want to be the guy that
Speaker 1: spreads it to somebody else that didn't get vaccinated. So, uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was pretty interesting talking about how, how, how how
Speaker 1: they're gonna inform the players down the road. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's pretty interesting when you look at the NFL
Speaker 1: and you compare them to other workplaces, they can be
Speaker 1: extremely intrusive on your privacy as a person because even
Speaker 1: though we have a union, you know, you don't really
Speaker 1: look at the NFL as a corporate environment so to speak.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's kind of it's almost an entity
Speaker 1: to its own in regards to how you deal with
Speaker 1: your employees. Usually with the NFL, they take a lot
Speaker 1: of liberties when it comes to mandating that their players
Speaker 1: dress a certain way, they have to come and talk
Speaker 1: to the media. There are certain things that they are
Speaker 1: bound to do that most corporations don't have the ability
Speaker 1: to make you do. And now here we come with
Speaker 1: the COVID, which is extremely important and it goes along
Speaker 1: the same line as a flu shot that's when they
Speaker 1: have to be hands off, right. They can't force you
Speaker 1: to do anything and say, okay, you take this shot
Speaker 1: or you're gonna be fired. You know you're gonna be released.
Speaker 1: That's something that they can't do. But if you don't
Speaker 1: show up for a press conference, okay, if you don't
Speaker 1: talk to the media and I'm talking pre COVID and
Speaker 1: you don't talk to the media and things of that nature,
Speaker 1: there are certain things within the contract between the player
Speaker 1: and the organization that clearly I think imposes on infringes
Speaker 1: on you know, your rights as a human being. But
Speaker 1: when it comes to this shot, they can't do that.
Speaker 1: And I think that's a very interesting comparison in regards
Speaker 1: to how uh these these organizations treat their employees and
Speaker 1: especially their players on those lines. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: like ever since you mentioned off the top with one kidney,
Speaker 1: I mean, people have different medical conditions to where I mean,
Speaker 1: someone cannot dictate to a person whether or not you
Speaker 1: know that just that person has to make the decision
Speaker 1: on their own whether they're going to take a vaccine.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the clock trying to determine if we
Speaker 1: got time. That was a great Monday night game last night,
Speaker 1: and I want to leave enough time for us to
Speaker 1: get into that. How about way to do this first? Mackey,
Speaker 1: you mentioned, well, no, I want to mention this because
Speaker 1: you take an on time break. We never take an
Speaker 1: early break. We need to take an on time break.
Speaker 1: You asked Chris about that. Yeah, you mentioned the question
Speaker 1: asked to Stephen Jones yesterday, and there was an NFL
Speaker 1: report that, uh that Mike McCarthy is coming back that
Speaker 1: the and then and so I have to I have
Speaker 1: to go on my CBS eleven newscasts last night, sportscast
Speaker 1: last night and say that that. And you know, we
Speaker 1: used the sound bite from Stephen Jones saying he's coming
Speaker 1: back whatever. And I said, Stephen Jones asking answering the
Speaker 1: question that nobody's asking because there's there's not any there
Speaker 1: hadn't been any speculation that Mike McCarthy wouldn't be coming back.
Speaker 1: Nobody's asking that question. But we in the media, we
Speaker 1: make it into a story because, Okay, now we got
Speaker 1: a sound bite confirming that he's coming back. Well, nobody
Speaker 1: nobody thought he wasn't coming back next year. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just crazy the way our business works, and all
Speaker 1: it has to do is one tale. The tale is
Speaker 1: wagging the dog. One person asked the question, right, One
Speaker 1: person asked the question and and you know, and I
Speaker 1: think he kind of said, frankly, I don't even think
Speaker 1: I should need to answer this. Um, you know, I
Speaker 1: had even been a thought. And then Mike McCarthy, and
Speaker 1: then it's got to be asked, Hey, the Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: gave you, you know, it's like a ringing endorsement, ringing endorsement.
Speaker 1: That and the way the question was asked to Steven
Speaker 1: because I think Ian Rappaport had a report that Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy is coming back, okay, And so then it gets
Speaker 1: asked if Stephen on the radio that are you surprised
Speaker 1: that it's even being questioned that Mike McCarthy. So then
Speaker 1: so then Steven has to answer it. So then it
Speaker 1: gets turned around Mike McCarthy that okay, Well, Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: says you're coming back. Whatever. It all gets twisted like
Speaker 1: it's a story all of a sudden, and then this
Speaker 1: morning Jerry gets asked about it, and so and so
Speaker 1: now we're going on forty eight hours of a non
Speaker 1: story where they're having to react to it. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: And Mike Nolan was asked, that's you guys fault. That's
Speaker 1: all you guys. Don't say guys, that's why. That's why
Speaker 1: y'alls talked about y'all so badly. He called you that.
Speaker 1: I believe he called you. He was before Trump calling
Speaker 1: y'all the enemy of the people, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: So yeah, now where the defenders of the people. And
Speaker 1: don't confuse talk radio with us guys. Okay, they're entertainers,
Speaker 1: were journalists and good. Let's not ever make that mistake again.
Speaker 1: But but that's the way the old fake news narrative
Speaker 1: gets going, is is all right? And by you watch
Speaker 1: this weekend on pregame shows, the big talk around the
Speaker 1: in Dallas Fort Worth in Texas, around the Cowboys was
Speaker 1: whether or not Mike mccarthe'll be coming back next year.
Speaker 1: There never was any thought about him. Now I was
Speaker 1: gonna be on ESPN, They're gonna be talking about it
Speaker 1: all that's right, all right, just getting started on mix shots.
Speaker 1: How about that Monday night game last night, Let's get
Speaker 1: into that and maybe how this team might be able
Speaker 1: to learn a little something from those teams last night
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Speaker 1: game this week against the San Francisco forty nine ers
Speaker 1: a noon kickoff at AT and T Stadium, And in fact,
Speaker 1: what a big week at at and T Stadium. This
Speaker 1: week We've got for those of you not living in
Speaker 1: the area, we have high school football state championship games
Speaker 1: this week for the smaller classification starting from Class one
Speaker 1: A through four A, top two classifications five A and
Speaker 1: six A. Everson and Mickey, they're in. They're going into
Speaker 1: just the second round of the playoffs here in Texas
Speaker 1: in high school football in Texas. They're going to be
Speaker 1: playing high school football playoff games Christmas weekend this year.
Speaker 1: And in fact, they're six weeks of playoffs, and so
Speaker 1: for the five A and six A schools they're playing
Speaker 1: all the way until January sixteenth or so this year.
Speaker 1: But but here's the deal this week, all right, So
Speaker 1: you've got you've got high school state championship games starting Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
Speaker 1: and then you got the big twelve championship game Oklahoma
Speaker 1: and Iowa State at eleven am I think on Saturday,
Speaker 1: and then the Cowboys in forty nine ers play at
Speaker 1: noon on Sunday. So there you go. That's your schedule
Speaker 1: at AT and T Stadium. That's a lot of field
Speaker 1: changing out in Texas the next calendar years seems like,
Speaker 1: can I see though that one of the division one
Speaker 1: of the one A game, the championship game got postponed
Speaker 1: or canceled? Yeah? Yes, when when it's a Class one
Speaker 1: A school and you have a COVID case at a
Speaker 1: school that only has fifty students to begin with, Uh,
Speaker 1: it makes it problematical too. But you know what's happened is,
Speaker 1: you know, early in earlier rounds of the playoffs, if
Speaker 1: there's a COVID outbreak on a on a team, on
Speaker 1: a high school football team, they just got a forfeit
Speaker 1: the game. They can't play, and so you forfeit the game.
Speaker 1: The good news for that team of the town. But
Speaker 1: the good news for that is they're just going to
Speaker 1: go ahead and postpone their state championship game and play
Speaker 1: it like a month from now when they play the
Speaker 1: other state championship games, so it being the last round,
Speaker 1: they don't lose playing the game. But uh, but yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the way, that's the way. It is. Is so crazy.
Speaker 1: But the show must go on. That's right, that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: And it was last night. It was a show that
Speaker 1: before we get into it, but before last night, though,
Speaker 1: I want to mention this, what do you think of
Speaker 1: the announcers on the Cowboy game this week? This past week,
Speaker 1: he had Kevin Coogler and Chris Spielman doing the game,
Speaker 1: and I thought, I really liked Mickey shaking his head there.
Speaker 1: I like listening to Chris Spielman on the game. Spielman
Speaker 1: was fine. That Spielman was fine, Yeah, yeah, and all right.
Speaker 1: And the reason I bring it up is that is
Speaker 1: the last game Chris Spielman will be doing because he
Speaker 1: is leaving the Fox broadcast booth and he is joining
Speaker 1: the front office of the Detroit Lions. That's breaking news,
Speaker 1: uh this afternoon, so he do so I found I
Speaker 1: found an analyst that's a that's not a cowboy, a
Speaker 1: former cowboy. I gotta ask Bill, you know who impressed
Speaker 1: me since you brought that up, and I think I
Speaker 1: mentioned his name when he broadcast our game. I thought
Speaker 1: Jonathan Villema did a good job. I didn't know who
Speaker 1: he was by voice when I heard it, but I
Speaker 1: thought he did a really thorough job in regards to
Speaker 1: our game. I don't think we won that game, so
Speaker 1: that's why you might not be so impressed with him. No, No,
Speaker 1: that was the Viking game. He did the Viking game.
Speaker 1: He really did a good job. He didn't talk too much.
Speaker 1: He he just seemed to be very precise in what
Speaker 1: he was saying. His thoughts were good, and he worked
Speaker 1: well with the with the play by play. I did
Speaker 1: like Spielman, but I enjoyed Villema just a little bit
Speaker 1: more because I was surprised to hear that was his
Speaker 1: name in the booth. And from then on when I listened,
Speaker 1: I was impressed. Yeah, all right, and I and I've
Speaker 1: hearded Spielman before. I just I just it was a
Speaker 1: different voice, and I enjoyed it all. Monday night last night.
Speaker 1: What do you think of that game? I mean, there
Speaker 1: are games that happened during the course of a regular
Speaker 1: season that remember, you know last year was it last
Speaker 1: year when the Chiefs played the Rams and there was
Speaker 1: a crazy game that went into the fifties whatever picks? Yeah, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: And that was that was like one of the might
Speaker 1: have been the most memorable game from that regular season,
Speaker 1: the last Night's Monday Night game, and especially the storylines
Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson leaving the game, coming back and first
Speaker 1: play throws a forty four yard touchdown past to Hollywood
Speaker 1: Brown and to give him the lead, and then Baker
Speaker 1: brings him back and then Justin Tucker wins it on
Speaker 1: a fifty five yard field goal. I mean that that
Speaker 1: game had a little bit of everything, you know. I like.
Speaker 1: What I liked about that game was the drama of
Speaker 1: it all. To me, a little bit over hyked. In
Speaker 1: regards to Lamar coming out of the dressing room. It's
Speaker 1: not like he was Willis Reid with a broken ankle,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. There's one word that he had,
Speaker 1: you know, just his hamstrings got tight on him. The
Speaker 1: other word was he had to go relieve himself that one.
Speaker 1: So you've got those two, you know, stories out there,
Speaker 1: and whichever one they are. I mean, Okay, the guy
Speaker 1: came out of locker room through a touch I didn't
Speaker 1: I didn't look at it as a New York Knicks
Speaker 1: Willis Reed moment. Not that particular moment. The entire ball game, now, yes,
Speaker 1: was amazing because both teams came to play. We know
Speaker 1: how much Baltimore needed this game, I think more than
Speaker 1: the Browns needed it, and the fact that they came
Speaker 1: out and finally played well offensively. I mean defensively, Baltimore
Speaker 1: is still in trouble. You know, they still let the
Speaker 1: Browns just run all over them. May Feel also had
Speaker 1: a great game, So I think he had You possibly
Speaker 1: had at least two hundred yards rushing against that defense,
Speaker 1: and you had Mayfield uh through for almost four hundred yards.
Speaker 1: So as far as I'm concerned that that whole game,
Speaker 1: it was a good game. But but the whole Superman
Speaker 1: coming out of the locker room, I thought that was
Speaker 1: a little bit over place. Well did they ever did
Speaker 1: they ever specify why he went into the locker room?
Speaker 1: I was working, he did. I was working, and so
Speaker 1: I was kind of half listening, half working, and then
Speaker 1: when the game got good, I said, oh, screw work,
Speaker 1: I'll finish it later. I'm watching this. But did they
Speaker 1: ever say why he went in during the game broadcast? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said it? Who said it? He said that he
Speaker 1: went in? No, No, I mean during the game. No,
Speaker 1: I mean during the game. They were saying cramps. During
Speaker 1: the game, they said it was cramps. That's what they said. Well,
Speaker 1: there's different kind of cramps you can have, By the way,
Speaker 1: I see, that's why you have Tether going off saying
Speaker 1: it was mentreal Forday's situation could have worked very well
Speaker 1: doing that situation, and so I don't know he said
Speaker 1: leg cramp. He Lamar Jackson actually said leg cramp as
Speaker 1: he explained it. And then he saw mcsoley go down
Speaker 1: and he comes, you know, coming out of there. He
Speaker 1: still looked like he was walking tight now, walking with
Speaker 1: a tight hamstring and walking with constipation. They looked just
Speaker 1: the light. Really, I could imagine that you if you
Speaker 1: want to analyze it. So, I you know, I think
Speaker 1: it was a little overblown about the bidet. I do
Speaker 1: eve it was just a hamstring issue. He did he
Speaker 1: did have a lot of good runs last night. What
Speaker 1: he did he read for over one hundred yards. What
Speaker 1: do you mean, okay, okay, that that was your setup?
Speaker 1: Was that with the ball? Because that was a pretty
Speaker 1: fog sprit from the locker room to the bench too.
Speaker 1: But oh man, well, you know they early on they
Speaker 1: talked about you can't tell his hands from the ball
Speaker 1: because he's brown. So I would imagine if he was
Speaker 1: in a particular situation, you still got brown to deal with. So,
Speaker 1: you know, after watching that game and you said how
Speaker 1: it relates to things that we see with the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Maybe we just need to get off the defense because
Speaker 1: even the good teams don't play good defense. You just
Speaker 1: got to score fifty points, right, This is turning into
Speaker 1: college football. At definitely high school football, no one plays
Speaker 1: defense or there's not enough athletes, so the good ones
Speaker 1: are all on offense and everybody else go play defense
Speaker 1: and we'll just try to outscore him. But it lets
Speaker 1: you know, it lets you know the importance those bags
Speaker 1: of situational football. You understand there are certain moments in
Speaker 1: a ball game. You have to be prepared for it
Speaker 1: because it can make or break your drive, It can
Speaker 1: make or break your quarter, can make or break your game.
Speaker 1: So to me, it makes coaching even more important to
Speaker 1: be prepared with whoever you're playing with. I don't care
Speaker 1: if it's a practice player or not. When you when
Speaker 1: we go over something, you have to listen to what
Speaker 1: we're saying because this point of the ball game is
Speaker 1: going to be important. As much as we saw scores
Speaker 1: and amazing plays, it still comes down to situational ball.
Speaker 1: The most important situation last night, fourth down in five, right,
Speaker 1: that's when he comes out of the out of the
Speaker 1: locker room. He makes that fourth down in five situational football.
Speaker 1: It don't get it convoluted with all these great plays.
Speaker 1: It still comes down to certain parts of a ball
Speaker 1: game that you have to be prepared for and you
Speaker 1: have to win that battle. Never let that be confused
Speaker 1: with all the points of the being scored. See and
Speaker 1: what do you think of go ahead? And aid Mickey? No,
Speaker 1: go ahead? Uh? I was gonna say, what what do
Speaker 1: you think of Stefanski's decision to go for two? Where
Speaker 1: they were down thirty four, They were down thirty four
Speaker 1: twenty They scored a touchdown to make it thirty four
Speaker 1: twenty six. Now they had missed two extra points earlier.
Speaker 1: Cody Parky had their kicker, and they decided to go
Speaker 1: for two to make it thirty four to twenty eight.
Speaker 1: And how did it play out after that? They wound
Speaker 1: up taking the lead, that's right to make it and
Speaker 1: then comes back to take the lead, the pressure on
Speaker 1: Baltimore where they had to anyway, it was, it was
Speaker 1: it was the height of analytics right there, Mickey. You
Speaker 1: think you think it was analytics or do you think
Speaker 1: he looked at his kicker and I'm going I'm not
Speaker 1: missing another extra point. We're better off just going two
Speaker 1: and yeah, that's the guy. That's the guy that had
Speaker 1: a history, right, that's the guy the Bears got rid of.
Speaker 1: Y Oh my god, is that that guy? Right? And
Speaker 1: what I expected from him? Who's that that miss forty
Speaker 1: field goals in the playoff game when Trubisky was having
Speaker 1: a good season? Was that two years ago? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he banged went off the up anyway. You know, once
Speaker 1: once they once they made the two point conversion, I
Speaker 1: was sitting there going, I'm I'm kind of liking this.
Speaker 1: You know, they had momentum Old Moe was on their
Speaker 1: side at that point, and uh, I kind of like
Speaker 1: the decision because when you think about it, I'm starting
Speaker 1: to come around on this idea of going for two
Speaker 1: like that because you you always have the opportunity. You're
Speaker 1: still only down eight. Okay, even if you don't make
Speaker 1: it where you're still within a score. That's true. I
Speaker 1: would have a real problem with it if it was otherwise.
Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't agree. I would not I would
Speaker 1: not agree with it. If I am down. Let's say
Speaker 1: I'm down thirty four to twenty five and I'm going
Speaker 1: for two to get it within seven, I would kick
Speaker 1: it then to make sure I'm getting within eight. A lot.
Speaker 1: I'm sure the analytics would say, I don't like a
Speaker 1: lot of coaches. We had that situation coming about yesterday.
Speaker 1: Was it? God, I can't remember the team, but they
Speaker 1: had it. They were trying to they were down by ten,
Speaker 1: and they decided to try and score first. And I'm
Speaker 1: talking to my son and I'm thinking, man, I really
Speaker 1: kicked this field goal now, because at that time they
Speaker 1: were just under three minutes to play in the ball game.
Speaker 1: Let me just kick this field goal instead of trying
Speaker 1: to grind my way into the end zone and using
Speaker 1: a bunch of time. Well that's what they ended up doing.
Speaker 1: They used a bunch of time, and of course they
Speaker 1: didn't have time to it was I think that it
Speaker 1: was the Saints. It was the Saints, wasn't it was
Speaker 1: because they were down, they were down ten and they
Speaker 1: needed to score twice. They ended up scoring the touchdown
Speaker 1: they could have saved. They took him like a minute,
Speaker 1: took him a minute to see what happened. What happened
Speaker 1: on the Saints game was they took a sack and
Speaker 1: then they kicked along field goal, didn't make it, and
Speaker 1: then Jalen Hurts fumbled. Hurts fumbled, and they went ahead
Speaker 1: and drove down and scored the touchdown, and then on
Speaker 1: the onside kick they came. The one I'm talking about
Speaker 1: is Miami in Kansas City. Okay, okay, Miami, kse Miami
Speaker 1: was down there trying to score because they were down
Speaker 1: by two scores. And if I'm not mistaken, it took
Speaker 1: him like a minute ten seconds to score. Way too
Speaker 1: much valuable time, because you still you still need to
Speaker 1: field goal after you score. So do you go for
Speaker 1: the field goal first? Get that out of the way.
Speaker 1: Quick money, quick money, and then you still have time.
Speaker 1: Don't even have to do an onside kick. Kick it deep,
Speaker 1: hopefully stop them, use your timemouth or whatever. Sometimes no timemouse.
Speaker 1: But it's still a better management of the clock. I think.
Speaker 1: I think so too. I agree with you. All Right,
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Speaker 1: the team will be back to work on Wednesday. Yes,
Speaker 1: that looks like it is going to be back to
Speaker 1: work on Wednesday. He's out of it. It looks like
Speaker 1: he's going to be out of his COVID protocol or
Speaker 1: COVID reserve issue reserve COVID nineteen. Yeah, Mike McCarthy said,
Speaker 1: Cheeto would He anticipated him being back on Wednesday. Also
Speaker 1: said that Savian Smith, with the hand injury suffered in
Speaker 1: the game. He said he's going to try to go Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Maybe Donovan Wilson will be back, and maybe Trayvon Diggs
Speaker 1: hopefully maybe, he said on Wednesday. So that's kind of
Speaker 1: a quick injury update. He also pointed out that this week,
Speaker 1: since it's getting close to the end of the season,
Speaker 1: what he normally does is through the practices during the week,
Speaker 1: he's cutting sixty minutes out to make sure he's keeping
Speaker 1: his team's legs fresh. So how about this, So it
Speaker 1: looks like the forty nine ers are going to go
Speaker 1: to CJ. Bethard as their starting quarterback, maybe Benching Mullins.
Speaker 1: I went back and looked, and I was thinking CJ. Bethard.
Speaker 1: He played against the Cowboys before, and he did. He
Speaker 1: started the twenty seventeen game against the Cowboys when Kaepernick
Speaker 1: not Kaepernick, they benched Brian Hoyer and so now the
Speaker 1: last this will be the third time in a row
Speaker 1: they've played the forty nine Ers without their starting quarterback
Speaker 1: because in twenty sixteen, when they played the Niners, Kaepernick
Speaker 1: was still coming back from three offseason surgeries thumbnee, and shoulder,
Speaker 1: so Blaine Gabbert was the starting quarterback in that game.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys only one twenty four to seventeen. So once
Speaker 1: again the Cowboys are gonna face C. J. Beethard, who
Speaker 1: in that game in twenty seventeen completed twenty two of
Speaker 1: thirty eight passes for two hundred and thirty five yards.
Speaker 1: He ran five times for thirty but he was sacked
Speaker 1: five times five times. And guess who caught one pass
Speaker 1: for five yards in that game? Some guy named Hiccotini,
Speaker 1: the tight end that's now on the Cows practice squad,
Speaker 1: Cole Hiccotini caught one pass in that game. Well, I
Speaker 1: would not have guessed that. I bet you wouldn't have.
Speaker 1: How's that for digging up a stat And then the
Speaker 1: other thing that's questionable for San Francisco is most Dirt
Speaker 1: has an ankle. They're not sure if he'll be ready
Speaker 1: to go along with UH. George's kittle is on IR
Speaker 1: and he's got a foot. They're thinking he might get
Speaker 1: back UH this week, but they're pretty definite. Jimmy Garoppolo
Speaker 1: is not ready to go UH in that game, So
Speaker 1: if Mostar is not there, Tevin Coleman will share running
Speaker 1: back duties UH for the for the forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: who are now five and eight, only one game better
Speaker 1: than the Cowboys, by the way, oh and by the way,
Speaker 1: one more, one more, and this one's really important. Deebo
Speaker 1: Samuel's out. He's got a hamstring and he looks like
Speaker 1: he may miss the rest of the game. And that
Speaker 1: guy is a big renting Yeah, that guy is an
Speaker 1: He could be the running back if Mosta didn't make it.
Speaker 1: I promise you this guy's a stun I saw that earlier, Spags.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad. I don't want him for his sake, right,
Speaker 1: you don't want to see him hurt. But a guy
Speaker 1: like Diebo being out, it kind of piques my interests
Speaker 1: a little bit. And how it can you know, relieve
Speaker 1: our defense a little bit. Then you're talking about most
Speaker 1: of being out, but it's backup Coleman. That guy runs
Speaker 1: downhill as well. Yeah, this is just that team's culture.
Speaker 1: That team's culture really a lot like I was in
Speaker 1: regards to the running game. No matter what, we really
Speaker 1: want to establish that that position for us offensively, you
Speaker 1: got kittled out. I think he's gonna continue to be out.
Speaker 1: You've got Debo out. The Cowboys have a chance, guys,
Speaker 1: they really have a chance. I remember when we were
Speaker 1: one in fifteen, back in nineteen eighty nine, Losing it
Speaker 1: at home was always so disheartening because you felt like
Speaker 1: you just let not just your teammates down, but everyone
Speaker 1: else who was at the game. And sometimes playing on
Speaker 1: the road can be a little bit of a reprieve
Speaker 1: for you. Right, we won our only game at all
Speaker 1: f K. You remember that, Oh, I do very well.
Speaker 1: We beat beat Doug Williams and the at that time
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins, and that was our only winning the season,
Speaker 1: And it did feel good to play away from home
Speaker 1: and get away from the from the disappointment that you
Speaker 1: kept laying down at that time at Texas Stadium. So
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys felt a little better being on
Speaker 1: the road. Winning on the road, that's really a great
Speaker 1: feeling to win on the road. It really feels better
Speaker 1: than winning at home. So hopefully they could kind of
Speaker 1: get that out of the system like they did in Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: and come back home and do work. Donovan Wilson being
Speaker 1: out I can never remember his name, but him being out,
Speaker 1: of him being possibly in this ball game, that also
Speaker 1: gives me a little bit of, you know, a little
Speaker 1: bit of hope, because I really liked the way he
Speaker 1: established a presence in that secondary. He's the only one
Speaker 1: that I saw coming up in a timely fashion and
Speaker 1: not just throwing his head in there just trying to
Speaker 1: hit somebody, but he was making timely, precise hits on
Speaker 1: receivers and running backs. I'd be good to see him
Speaker 1: come back in the game. Maybe he can make a
Speaker 1: difference like he did I thought in the Vikings game
Speaker 1: and propel us to have some type of a defensive,
Speaker 1: stubborn presence in that second day. You know this, Vike
Speaker 1: surprised you about people do what they want. We just
Speaker 1: might surprise you about Donovan Wilson. So he has started
Speaker 1: seven games, so just one more than half they've played.
Speaker 1: He ranked sixth on the team right now, No, tied
Speaker 1: tied for fifth with forty seven tackles. The guy in
Speaker 1: fourth has forty nine, so he's almost fourth in total tackles.
Speaker 1: And he's only started seven games, So that tells you
Speaker 1: sort of the impact he's had back there as a
Speaker 1: safety making tackles. He's got two and a half acts
Speaker 1: quarterback pressure, two forced fumbles, and obviously he recovered no.
Speaker 1: Three force fumbles. No, yeah, three force fumbles and two recovered.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's made an impact. You know, And I
Speaker 1: was going to ask you ever since if you ever
Speaker 1: remember being on a team that and you guys didn't
Speaker 1: have a practice squad, you had taxi squad or whatever
Speaker 1: that stuff was called. But going like having to go
Speaker 1: three and four deep at the cornerback position to get
Speaker 1: through a game like the Cowboys did this past Sunday,
Speaker 1: that's unbelievable that they're out there with practice. We have
Speaker 1: never we have never had that now, we have never
Speaker 1: had that, having to go that deep. But you remember
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty nine, Jimmy was looking for players from
Speaker 1: all over the country or maybe even all over the world.
Speaker 1: We're out there practicing, and we see people almost what
Speaker 1: our jersey numbers are out there, you know, trying out
Speaker 1: for the cowboy and seeing who they can replace. So
Speaker 1: they were always running guys in the forty they were
Speaker 1: always having them do drills, and here we are at
Speaker 1: that time hadn't won a freaking ball game. I think
Speaker 1: we were oh and eight before we became one and eight.
Speaker 1: And Jimmy Johnson did not hold any secrets. He's like, look, well,
Speaker 1: we're working guys out to take y'all spot. So if
Speaker 1: you guys want to keep playing like crap like you're doing,
Speaker 1: one of these guys gonna take your position. That was
Speaker 1: always one of the most bold, outrageous things I had
Speaker 1: seen a long time fore. We kind of nicknamed that
Speaker 1: the revolving door. Right. A guy would come in on
Speaker 1: Tuesday workout, he would practice for the first time on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: He would start on Sunday and get cut on Monday.
Speaker 1: That happened over and over and over again. That was
Speaker 1: that was the closest we came build to a COVID situation.
Speaker 1: Was just to suck as badly as we did in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine. Hey, I'm gonna leave. Yeah, No, it
Speaker 1: had an inability. It was foot problem. Yes, talents, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna leave you this with this stat And I don't
Speaker 1: know who gets charged with coming up with these things,
Speaker 1: but LP Latticer, a Canadian, has played two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty games in the National Football League. He is tied
Speaker 1: with one Eddie Murray for the most games played by
Speaker 1: a Canadian born player in the National Football League? Who
Speaker 1: figures that stuff out? And I heard it and I said, well,
Speaker 1: let me look up and see. Oh. Pro Football Reference
Speaker 1: has a list of about a hundred names of every
Speaker 1: Canadian player that played in the NFL and how many
Speaker 1: games they played, And sure enough, he was tied with
Speaker 1: Eddie Murray for two fifty. So on Sunday, assuming all
Speaker 1: goes well and he gets to go out there and play,
Speaker 1: he will have played the most games in the National
Speaker 1: Football League by a Canadian. Oh come on, man, we
Speaker 1: should be striking up the Canadian national anthem right now.
Speaker 1: You gotta Chris that co ordinate with the producer man,
Speaker 1: we should have been do they put their hand on that?
Speaker 1: What do they do? And then oh, can so I'm
Speaker 1: thinking he's a shoeing to be He's a shoeing to
Speaker 1: be a co captain right on Sunday. Yeah, pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Co all right, that sounds good. Appreciate it, Mickey ever since.
Speaker 1: And how about we do it again tomorrow? Another edition
Speaker 1: of mix Shots, a Wednesday edition tomorrow. How about we'll
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