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Speaker 3: we got so much to talk about tonight.
Speaker 4: Politicians find a new tragedy to politicize. Hurricanes are now
Speaker 4: affecting people who don't exist, and it turns out that
Speaker 4: Fox News might not have.
Speaker 3: Told the truth. Can you believe it? Let's get right
Speaker 3: in the headlines.
Speaker 4: Let's start tonight with a little stroll down memory lane.
Speaker 4: Remember the early days of the COVID pandemic when tests
Speaker 4: had just been developed, but you couldn't find one to
Speaker 4: save your life.
Speaker 3: Well, now we know where they went.
Speaker 5: There is reporting that former President Trump, the then sitting
Speaker 5: president at the time, had quote secretly sent Putin a
Speaker 5: bunch of Abbot points of care COVID test machines for
Speaker 5: his personal use as the virus spread rapidly through Russia.
Speaker 6: Here's how the phone call goes between Trump and Putin.
Speaker 6: Putin says, please don't tell anybody you sent these to me. Trump,
Speaker 6: I don't care, fine, Putin, no No, I don't want
Speaker 6: you to tell anybody because people will get mad at you,
Speaker 6: not me. They don't care about me.
Speaker 4: Oh if that phone call didn't just annex my heart.
Speaker 4: So Trump was secretly giving sound medical advice to a
Speaker 4: foreign adversary while publicly convincing Americans to.
Speaker 3: Poison themselves with bleach.
Speaker 4: I gotta say most presidents would do that the other
Speaker 4: way around. But hey, you do you Trump. Let's get
Speaker 4: to our top story tonight. The country is still dealing
Speaker 4: with the aftermath of Hurricane Helene, but now it looks
Speaker 4: like there's a sequel on the way that may pull
Speaker 4: a joker aka, cost a lot more and suck even harder.
Speaker 7: The breaking news potentially one of the most destructive storms
Speaker 7: on record. That's the new warning for the National Hurricane
Speaker 7: Center about Hurricane Milton, headed for Florida's west coast.
Speaker 8: It's a category five, which is something that I've never
Speaker 8: heard a category five actually coming on to land. But
Speaker 8: it looks like it's going to.
Speaker 4: Wow, Donald, you never heard of a category five hurricane
Speaker 4: hitting land. It's weird because I remember one happening while
Speaker 4: you were president.
Speaker 3: What did you say after that happened.
Speaker 8: I'm not sure that I've ever even heard of the
Speaker 8: category five.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, for all you people who think he's
Speaker 4: in men until decline, turns out he's been the same
Speaker 4: level of stupidity for years.
Speaker 3: He must do sudoku. Yes, one one one one one,
Speaker 3: I got it, I got it.
Speaker 4: Okay, But yes, Hurricane Milton is bearing down on Florida,
Speaker 4: which is terrible because we still haven't cleaned up the
Speaker 4: fallout from Helene. And not just the flooding and the debris.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about the torrent of misinformation and bullshit that
Speaker 4: we're still wading through. Because if you've been getting your
Speaker 4: news from Eternal Hurricane on the Spotless Mind over here,
Speaker 4: you might think that the victims of Hurricane Helene have
Speaker 4: been completely abandoned by the government.
Speaker 8: The White House is doing nothing. They've abandoned us. And
Speaker 8: you know, it's largely a Republican area. They haven't seen
Speaker 8: anybody from the federal government yet. The federal government isn't there.
Speaker 3: Horrifying if true.
Speaker 4: Comrade Kamala and Sleepy Joe's federal government has left Republican
Speaker 4: voters out to dry just because of their party affiliates. Now,
Speaker 4: these Republican governors of those states must be outraged.
Speaker 3: Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin, tell the world what horrors you've seen.
Speaker 1: I'm incredibly appreciated about the racket response in the cooperation
Speaker 1: from the federal team at VIVA.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, you're probably some deep state Democratic ploy but
Speaker 4: Tennessee and Florida and Georgia, you guys are the real
Speaker 4: red states. Your governors will dish on how slow the
Speaker 4: federal government's response has been.
Speaker 1: The response was quick from the federal government.
Speaker 9: We have what we need.
Speaker 10: We got what we need.
Speaker 2: He offered that if there's no other things we need,
Speaker 2: just to call him directly.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, all right, okay, let me get this right.
Speaker 4: So every red state governor, said Biden, is competently helping them.
Speaker 4: It's clear what's happening here. Either Trump has been lying
Speaker 4: or every governor has been seduced by the sexual power
Speaker 4: of Joe Biden's slow, confused smile.
Speaker 3: That's a smile that says I don't know where I am,
Speaker 3: but I know where I want to be.
Speaker 4: But Trump isn't the only one spreading misinformation. Conservative media
Speaker 4: is spreading lies that FEMA is diverting resources to Ukraine,
Speaker 4: that Jews and the government are secretly sabotaging AID and
Speaker 4: the biggest conspiracy of all that the hurricane was deliberate.
Speaker 10: A Republican Marjorie Taylor Green posting on x Yes, they
Speaker 10: can control the weather.
Speaker 11: It's ridiculous for anyone to lie and say it cannot
Speaker 11: be done.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 4: Whatever happened to the good old days when conservatives believe
Speaker 4: sensible things like hurricanes were creations of God who was
Speaker 4: pissed off by gay marriage?
Speaker 3: You know what happened?
Speaker 4: Did God go to a really nice gay weddinged in
Speaker 4: Cabo and pass off hurricane duties to Chuck Schumer?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 4: I was against this, but when I saw Bruce and
Speaker 4: Gary take those vows, Wow, they had a live band,
Speaker 4: for Christ's sakes, that's glass. These crazy conspiracy theories aren't harmless.
Speaker 4: They spread paranoia around a population that is already desperate,
Speaker 4: and we're starting to see the effect.
Speaker 10: We talked to people who believe that there were Fiddle
Speaker 10: officials who were seizing a town called Chimney Rock, North Carolina,
Speaker 10: that there was this conspiracy to seize the town and
Speaker 10: to bulldoze all the bodies and hide them, maybe to
Speaker 10: mine it for lithium.
Speaker 3: Do you see what's happening?
Speaker 4: People are afraid those who are coming to help are
Speaker 4: actually coming to steal their lithium.
Speaker 3: Everyone.
Speaker 4: Let's be clear, completely clear. The US government doesn't destroy
Speaker 4: towns to steal their resources in the US, in the
Speaker 4: Middle East, charm. All this misinformation distracts from the fact
Speaker 4: that there are real people in these disaster zones who
Speaker 4: need help. Like this heartbreaking photo of this little girl
Speaker 4: and her puppy beneath all these lies.
Speaker 3: Her suffering is real.
Speaker 9: No, these photos claiming to show girls and puppies being
Speaker 9: rescued after Hurricane Helene are not real.
Speaker 3: They were made with AI.
Speaker 8: Damn it.
Speaker 4: How can something so fake and this is such real tears.
Speaker 4: Of course, this hurricane is happening in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 4: which means on top of all the misinformation from our politicians,
Speaker 4: we also have to deal with the flood of fake
Speaker 4: AI bullshit like these pictures of little girls, or or
Speaker 4: this fake picture of Donald Trump wading through the floodwaters.
Speaker 3: Now, this one is subtle.
Speaker 4: You can tell this one is fake because it's a
Speaker 4: picture of Donald Trump helping people.
Speaker 3: Look, but you have to look close. You have to
Speaker 3: look close.
Speaker 4: For a lot of other pictures, we have to spend
Speaker 4: time learning how to spot AI.
Speaker 7: This is how we figured out this photo was AI generated.
Speaker 7: You can count that there are six fingers on this hand,
Speaker 7: and there's also three nostrils in this guy's nos, which
Speaker 7: obviously is not a thing.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Big Tech for improving our lives. We had
Speaker 4: to bulldoze fifteen acres of the Amazon to make that
Speaker 4: extra nostril, but I think we can all agree it
Speaker 4: was worth it.
Speaker 3: For more of the.
Speaker 4: Effects of all this misinformation. Let's go live to North
Speaker 4: Carolina to interview a first responder who's part of the
Speaker 4: rescue efforts, Brad McDonald. Mister McDonald's, mister McDonald, I want
Speaker 4: to thank you for joining us. I gotta say you
Speaker 4: must be sick of all the fake images of six
Speaker 4: fingered men swirling around out there.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'm sick of, mister Klepper. You
Speaker 1: people in the media who are saying I'm not real.
Speaker 4: Okay, wow, you really have six fingers.
Speaker 1: I sure do this look artificially generated to you?
Speaker 3: Fancy boy?
Speaker 1: Why I ought to give you a six knuckle sandwich.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, mister McDonald, I had no idea. Forgive me
Speaker 4: for forgive me for asking. But do you have six
Speaker 4: fingers on both hands?
Speaker 1: Of course not, I'm not a freak. My other hand
Speaker 1: is a footright.
Speaker 3: Of course.
Speaker 4: Clearly this isn't enlightening for me. Frankly, I had no
Speaker 4: idea there actually was a real six fingered man in
Speaker 4: North Carolina.
Speaker 3: You think I'm the only one.
Speaker 1: There's actually six of us, all right, and together we've
Speaker 1: rescued every dog in the county. But does anybody in
Speaker 1: the media ever thank us. No, they call us a
Speaker 1: bunch of AI fakes. If I ever see one of
Speaker 1: them newspeople, I swear I'm gonna put my hand foot
Speaker 1: up their ass.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, point taken.
Speaker 4: I guess I guess we'll need to find other clues
Speaker 4: that a picture is a like a person having three nostrils.
Speaker 3: You mean three nostril pete. I mean, come on, there's
Speaker 3: no way he's real.
Speaker 1: Oh tell that to his enormous Kleenex bill. I suppose
Speaker 1: you want to make fun of his beautiful three nostril
Speaker 1: kids too, putting down a man who's already been through
Speaker 1: so much. You know, his son, his son has the
Speaker 1: biggest coke problem you've ever seen.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I can't even imagine what that's like.
Speaker 3: I'll explain you.
Speaker 1: See, it's like a regular coke problem, but with three nostrils.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, No, I got it, I got it.
Speaker 4: I guess I didn't appreciate how difficult this is for you.
Speaker 4: How do you get through it?
Speaker 10: Well?
Speaker 1: I find strength in my personal relationship with shrimp Jesus.
Speaker 1: Now let me tell you about shrimp je I'm.
Speaker 4: Good, I'm thank you, totally real North Carolina resident Brad McDonald,
Speaker 4: thank you.
Speaker 9: We go back.
Speaker 4: We find out if Fox News lies don't go way.
Speaker 3: Well Max the Dale Show.
Speaker 4: We all know that our table media networks are the
Speaker 4: bet sources for trusted reporting, but sometimes slip up.
Speaker 3: Michael Costa has more.
Speaker 1: Last year, Fox News reached a nearly eight hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars settlement with Dominion Voting Systems for falsely claiming that
Speaker 1: they rigged the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 7: We begin with some breaking news and one of the
Speaker 7: most consequential media trials in decades.
Speaker 2: Dominion Voting Systems had alleged the right wing network knowingly
Speaker 2: broadcast lies that its voting machines were used to steal
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty presidential.
Speaker 12: Election, avoiding a trial that would have turned Fox News's
Speaker 12: biggest stars into star witnesses. The company will cut a
Speaker 12: seven hundred and eighty seven point five I have a
Speaker 12: million dollar checked.
Speaker 1: But what you might not realize is that Fox only
Speaker 1: reported those claims after one brave woman dared to send
Speaker 1: them an email. Surely, an email like this must have
Speaker 1: come from a seasoned investigative journalist or deep state whistleblower.
Speaker 1: So who exactly was this incredible source?
Speaker 13: I kind of liken myself to that statue of the
Speaker 13: girl in front of the big bed bull of Wall Street.
Speaker 1: Me Marlene Bourne, staring into the eyes of one of
Speaker 1: the most powerful unknown people in American politics. Was thrilling
Speaker 1: and intimidating at the same time. I needed to know
Speaker 1: how did she do it?
Speaker 13: So I started doing research. I applied my research skills.
Speaker 13: You know, it's one thing to have a collection of dots,
Speaker 13: it's another thing to be able to connect.
Speaker 3: Them dots ice cream of the future.
Speaker 13: No informational dots, informational doots. So I had these dots together,
Speaker 13: I just kind of threw together this email.
Speaker 1: But this wasn't your typical ordinary email. Oh no, this
Speaker 1: email had life altering consequences.
Speaker 11: Walk me through that faithful day November seventh, around five
Speaker 11: h seven pm.
Speaker 13: Whether it was crisp, the leaves were turning. I put
Speaker 13: together this email in about an hour, fought it over,
Speaker 13: hit send, and that was it.
Speaker 1: And that was it. Time to get to this infamous
Speaker 1: email that altered US elections for generations.
Speaker 13: So you're probably already aware of voting irregularities in a
Speaker 13: number of states which have one common thread, dominion voting system.
Speaker 13: Nancy Pelosi's longtime chief of staff is a key executive.
Speaker 13: Up to three percent of votes for mister Trump would
Speaker 13: automatically switch to mister Biden. That's what American Expressed charges
Speaker 13: merchants as a transaction fee.
Speaker 3: Marlene, I needed to visual eate to help me with
Speaker 3: this email.
Speaker 1: But what do you think about this?
Speaker 13: It's way more complicated than that.
Speaker 1: Okay, if you didn't get all that, it clearly states
Speaker 1: that Diane find three percent transaction fee and then basically
Speaker 1: the election was stolen. You say to people who say, Marlene,
Speaker 1: your email, it's a big conspiracy.
Speaker 13: So fine, I'm a conspiracy theorist. Okay, I also happened
Speaker 13: to be correct.
Speaker 1: So what started out as just an email led to this.
Speaker 8: A Dominion software.
Speaker 5: I know that there were voting irregularities then this.
Speaker 8: There were substantial questions.
Speaker 1: With Dominion all the way up the swampy drain pipe
Speaker 1: to this, with the.
Speaker 8: Dominion machines moved thousands of votes from my account to
Speaker 8: Biden's account.
Speaker 1: Causing people to believe the election was stolen. And again
Speaker 1: because of one email. I needed to know which hungry
Speaker 1: reporter first followed up on this explosive news.
Speaker 3: No one a text. They sent a messenger to your house.
Speaker 1: They contacted your lawyer and said, please have her identify
Speaker 1: the sources.
Speaker 11: A singing telegram, a hot air ble man, not a carrier.
Speaker 14: Pigeon whelp.
Speaker 3: Nobody contacted you, crickets.
Speaker 8: Crickets contacted you.
Speaker 13: I heard nothing but crickets.
Speaker 10: Oh, I see of that.
Speaker 11: Yet they were using your information to and share it
Speaker 11: with their viewers apparently, So you know, that's the respect
Speaker 11: that I crave. I love the people. Just accept what
Speaker 11: you're saying is truth.
Speaker 1: So what would have been one of the biggest stories
Speaker 1: in US political history wasn't even fact checked.
Speaker 2: But I get it.
Speaker 1: There's no need to fact check because Marlene is a
Speaker 1: reputable source that does her homework.
Speaker 11: What were your sources behind the conclusions you came about
Speaker 11: dominion voting system.
Speaker 13: The wind told me that there were people who wanted
Speaker 13: to know, wanted to hear what I had to say,
Speaker 13: so I could have sent just true.
Speaker 1: But I'm sorry I was nodding, but I didn't really
Speaker 1: understand what you said.
Speaker 3: The wind told you. The wind told me, and the
Speaker 3: wind speaks English.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, Look, everyone has their quirks. It's not always
Speaker 1: how you get the information, but rather the confidence of
Speaker 1: knowing the person who's delivering it is a legit.
Speaker 3: Say I'm a ghost.
Speaker 13: I talked with other ghosts.
Speaker 3: Am I Hailey, Joe Osmond in sixth sense?
Speaker 15: Right now?
Speaker 3: Is this real? Well?
Speaker 1: If Fox knew this, there's no way they would have
Speaker 1: aired the content to this email.
Speaker 3: Quote. The Wind tells me, I'm a ghost.
Speaker 8: The Wind tells me I'm a ghost.
Speaker 9: You would think that the contents of this letter would
Speaker 9: have sent it straight to the trash bin.
Speaker 1: But no, Instead they took that garbage and read it
Speaker 1: out loud on air the very next day.
Speaker 13: There has been a massive and coordinated effort to steal
Speaker 13: this election.
Speaker 1: Who knew all that was needed to take down Fox
Speaker 1: News was a ghost fluent in wind.
Speaker 3: You did it, Tucker Carlson's gone.
Speaker 1: Fox News had to pay seven hundred and eighty million dollars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Americans don't trust democracy as much anymore, but.
Speaker 3: You did it.
Speaker 13: Listen to the wind man. It will tell you things.
Speaker 13: It's simply having an awareness of your surroundings.
Speaker 1: Maybe I needed to be more open minded like Marlene
Speaker 1: and pay attention to my surroundings, listening to the breaking
Speaker 1: wind instead of the breaking news. And it turns out
Speaker 1: it has a lot to say, and it's telling me
Speaker 1: the election of twenty twenty four is going to be
Speaker 1: one hell of a shit show. Thank you, wend.
Speaker 3: Thank you Michael. We come back.
Speaker 4: Author Jason Reynolds will be joining me on the show
Speaker 4: Don't Go Away.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Daily Show.
Speaker 4: My guest tonight is a New York Times bestselling author
Speaker 4: of twenty one books for children and young adults. His
Speaker 4: latest book is called twenty four Seconds from Now. Please
Speaker 4: welcome Jason Reynolds. Jason, how are you, sir?
Speaker 3: I'm good now now. They tell me, they say this
Speaker 3: is your first y.
Speaker 4: A romance novel, but you insist it is not a
Speaker 4: romance novel. It is a it is a book about love.
Speaker 9: Listen. I'm nervous to say that it is a romance novel.
Speaker 9: I'm nervous to say that it's not a romance novel
Speaker 9: because my buddies who work in romance are very particular
Speaker 9: about the craft. That you know their craft. Sure, what
Speaker 9: I will say is that there's romance here. There is,
Speaker 9: there is romantic moments. But instead of thinking about it
Speaker 9: as a romance novel, for me, I like to think
Speaker 9: of it as a love story in which this young
Speaker 9: man is actually trying to figure out who he is
Speaker 9: in the midst of sort of these new feelings around
Speaker 9: his girlfriend.
Speaker 4: Oh but that just that that wouldn't fit on the cover.
Speaker 9: But that doesn't fit on the cover.
Speaker 3: It doesn't fit on the cover.
Speaker 4: So I mean, this book looks at male sexuality. Do
Speaker 4: you know which states it will be abandoned?
Speaker 9: I'd rather not say so. I don't have to give
Speaker 9: them any ideas. Let's hope that. Let's hope nobody always
Speaker 9: going to happen some way.
Speaker 4: I was talking to you a little bit backstage. When
Speaker 4: I read your book, it brought back a lot of feelings.
Speaker 4: It talks about somebody's first sexual encounter and don't worry,
Speaker 4: I'm not going to go into mine at all on television.
Speaker 4: Nobody wants that, especially for you. Yeah, I mean you
Speaker 4: could could be a little kind around that one.
Speaker 3: They're Jason.
Speaker 15: But but I think we said right off the bat,
Speaker 15: it puts you there, It puts you in a mindset there,
Speaker 15: and it is something that I don't find myself revisiting
Speaker 15: or literature paying much attention to.
Speaker 3: Was that part of the interest of tackling something like.
Speaker 9: This, Yeah, I much like you, I haven't seen it either.
Speaker 9: And there's a question, right that begs the question why not?
Speaker 9: Why don't we get to see young men navigating the
Speaker 9: most vulnerable moments of their lives. Why don't we get
Speaker 9: to see them insecure and nervous and trying to be
Speaker 9: trying to activate the tender bit right, trying to be
Speaker 9: okay with their bodies. These are all very normal things
Speaker 9: that you and me and many young men have gone through,
Speaker 9: but we never get to see it in any form
Speaker 9: of media, let alone in literature.
Speaker 4: It's interesting, I think when we talk to they have
Speaker 4: a lot of different people who talk about the crisis
Speaker 4: of masculinity of modern masculinity, and a lot of this
Speaker 4: looks at tech and the way kids are and young
Speaker 4: boys are affected by social media, but also their addiction
Speaker 4: to pornography. Like my generation, I mean, I would have
Speaker 4: killed for pornography in my pockets.
Speaker 3: I would have killed for it. I couldn't find it.
Speaker 4: I wasn't cool enough to know anybody who had it anyone.
Speaker 4: I didn't see pornography until I was thirty seven.
Speaker 3: I just could never figure it out.
Speaker 4: But now, being a thirteen year old, that's a different
Speaker 4: You're learning about sex in totally different ways when you
Speaker 4: think about something like that and you deal with that someone.
Speaker 4: In this book too, your main character is seventeen and
Speaker 4: has certain assumptions about the ways in which a first
Speaker 4: time goes. How do you how do you balance telling
Speaker 4: an authentic story there with what you want to articulate
Speaker 4: to a young audience reading it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it's tricky, right. I'm always very careful
Speaker 9: about coming into a story trying to teach any lessons,
Speaker 9: because I think young people can smell that a mile away.
Speaker 9: My job is just to beid witness to the realities
Speaker 9: of their lives, and sometimes that reality makes me uncomfortable,
Speaker 9: but it's something that we still have to grapple with,
Speaker 9: like pornography. And so for me, instead of me just
Speaker 9: inserting pornography into the story, it's also about the people
Speaker 9: around him and how they sort of contextualize it for him.
Speaker 9: Right when I was a kid and I started to
Speaker 9: have the sex talk with my mother, my mother was
Speaker 9: very aware that I had pornography. And my mother would say, hey,
Speaker 9: just so you know, I know you have those tapes.
Speaker 9: And I'm like, oh no, please, and she's like, no, no, no,
Speaker 9: I know they're there. And so what I want you
Speaker 9: to know, And so what I want you to know
Speaker 9: is like it's just like any other movie. Those are
Speaker 9: just actors and and the girls that you know are
Speaker 9: not those men men, and you are not those men.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, what do you mean?
Speaker 9: And she's like, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Well, that's as you describe it in the books. That's
Speaker 4: essentially taken from your experience with your mother. Rightly, that
Speaker 4: almost sounds like a threat to like how we talk
Speaker 4: to countries with nuclear weapons, like I understand you have them,
Speaker 4: but I know more on my side as well.
Speaker 9: And the truth and the truth is the consequences, though
Speaker 9: different from a macro level, I could be just as
Speaker 9: devastating on a micro level. If you don't, if we
Speaker 9: don't have these conversations, you could very well blow up
Speaker 9: your life and the life of the person that you
Speaker 9: claim to care about. Right, It's just that simple. We
Speaker 9: have to pay attention, we have to communicate, We have
Speaker 9: to be kind, we have to be gentle and tender
Speaker 9: and compassionate. We have to acknowledge the person across rom
Speaker 9: less is not a piece of furniture, but as a
Speaker 9: human being.
Speaker 4: Don't don't go nuclear your first time. That is what
Speaker 4: you're saying.
Speaker 3: You can't anyway you can, anyway you can. You could
Speaker 3: prematurely explode. I got that is something that that can happen.
Speaker 4: Did you go to literature, like you know, my understanding
Speaker 4: is you were not. You're not a big novel reader.
Speaker 4: When you were you like like like what what what
Speaker 4: hold you think you're feeling right there? Did you use
Speaker 4: literature in a way that was reflective of the experience
Speaker 4: you were having?
Speaker 3: Like what what? What? What? What are you? What are
Speaker 3: you trying to do with in your writing? To speak
Speaker 3: to this younger general.
Speaker 9: I mean, I think I think if I'd have had
Speaker 9: this book as a kid, I would have read it. Yeah, right,
Speaker 9: But this is not This isn't the literature that was
Speaker 9: given to me when I was young. I mean, you know,
Speaker 9: we're probably close to the same age. I mean back then,
Speaker 9: you're you're being I mean, we're coming up on the
Speaker 9: one hundredth anniversary. You have the Great Gatsby. And even
Speaker 9: though I have a lot of respect for Scott f
Speaker 9: Scott Fitzgerald as a kid growing up where I was
Speaker 9: growing up, at the time that I was growing up,
Speaker 9: that seemed like a far away land. The fancy parties
Speaker 9: and bow ties and black and black suits and all that.
Speaker 9: That's not my reality. Yeah was you know jeans and
Speaker 9: Jordan's right. And so I think with a book like this,
Speaker 9: we're able to say, like, your life as it exists
Speaker 9: today is a life that matters enough to be written about, right,
Speaker 9: Because if you don't see it that way, you don't
Speaker 9: know it.
Speaker 3: You don't know it.
Speaker 4: I feel like that's a lesson I learned too late
Speaker 4: in life in many ways, that like literature and.
Speaker 3: Art, you have to use it.
Speaker 9: You have to use it.
Speaker 3: You don't just engage with it.
Speaker 4: You have to use it, and you can use it
Speaker 4: to be reflective of your life, or to make your
Speaker 4: life better, or to gain perspective. I'm curious seeing yourself
Speaker 4: reflected at an early age is important. Now that you've
Speaker 4: grown older, do you seek out literature?
Speaker 3: What do you read now?
Speaker 4: Are you looking for things that are reflective of your
Speaker 4: life or are you looking for experiences that are outside
Speaker 4: of it?
Speaker 9: It's different. It's different, and I work in this field too,
Speaker 9: so it's a little different in general. I mean, for
Speaker 9: me right now, I'm always looking for I look at
Speaker 9: literature these days like I look at abstract art, right.
Speaker 9: I want to stand in front of it and see
Speaker 9: if it makes me feel something, whether I understand it
Speaker 9: or not. Right, And so a lot of a lot
Speaker 9: of the times I'm reading, you know, experimental works with
Speaker 9: things that I deemed to be experimental, like Ali Smith's novels,
Speaker 9: or I've just been going over all these Mary Oliver
Speaker 9: poems to see if there's something there that resonates with me,
Speaker 9: something that that that that bonds itself to my psyche.
Speaker 9: So my subconscious is something that I can walk around
Speaker 9: with and live with, language that can live in the body,
Speaker 9: so that it might change the way I move through
Speaker 9: the world. That might not always be you know, a
Speaker 9: story about me. That might be a story about someone
Speaker 9: living across the world going through a very difficult time.
Speaker 9: But I can still sit with that and live with that,
Speaker 9: and because I can ingest it, I can use it
Speaker 9: to make myself a better person.
Speaker 3: I love that. I love that You're You're only right.
Speaker 4: You also teach, and you've also spent a decent amount
Speaker 4: of time going to schools interacting with the youth as
Speaker 4: somebody who perhaps understands them or has a view into
Speaker 4: their experiences more than the the average adult.
Speaker 3: Do you have faith?
Speaker 4: Are they gonna they're gonna pull this one out? Are
Speaker 4: they gonna help this generation who's everything up?
Speaker 11: Yes?
Speaker 9: And you know I know that we look the Atlantic.
Speaker 9: There's an article that came out about how like college
Speaker 9: kids can't read books and that there's all this stuff.
Speaker 9: We get all these tidbits about all the things they're
Speaker 9: not doing right. But as someone who's around them all
Speaker 9: the time, I think they have the biggest hearts that
Speaker 9: we've seen in human history. I think they care about
Speaker 9: things very differently. I don't always know that they have
Speaker 9: the vocabulary just yet but the vocabulary that they do
Speaker 9: have has already shifted the way we think about the
Speaker 9: world in which we live. We can look at sex
Speaker 9: and gender and see how the young people have shifted
Speaker 9: the way that we talk about things, in the way
Speaker 9: that we honor the identities of our fellow men and
Speaker 9: women and non binary people, right, and so like that's
Speaker 9: coming from that's coming from from the youth.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 9: When we think about gun the gun, gun violence, right,
Speaker 9: that that move men is being led by the youth.
Speaker 9: When we think about the Women's March some years back,
Speaker 9: a lot of people there were very young, right fighting
Speaker 9: this particular fight. And so I think that while we
Speaker 9: criticize them, and while we worry, we have to remember
Speaker 9: that the people were worrying about are just teenagers. And
Speaker 9: if we would give them a moment to grow up,
Speaker 9: give them time to mature, do our jobs right by
Speaker 9: creating a pathway in which they can walk instead of
Speaker 9: just judging them. Right, Let's say, hey, look, I'll point
Speaker 9: the light this way. I may not drive the boat
Speaker 9: for you, because I believe you can drive it yourself,
Speaker 9: but I'll definitely show you the way to go. And
Speaker 9: if we do that, I think I think We'll all
Speaker 9: be okay.
Speaker 3: I love that.
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