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Speaker 1: your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's it's a beautiful Wednesday edition. By beautiful, I

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Speaker 1: it's a beautiful day because guess what, it's time for

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Speaker 1: some talking Cowboys here on this Wednesday. Glad you're with

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Speaker 1: us on Dallas Cowboys dot Com, because, boyd, we have

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Speaker 1: a lot we've got to get to that happened over

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Speaker 1: the past twenty four hours. And we're also going to

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Speaker 1: previously Philadelphia offense going up against this Cowboys defense that

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Speaker 1: because of what happened over the last twenty four hours,

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Speaker 1: is probably going to bid be a little bit different

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Speaker 1: looking come Sunday. Isaiah stand back, our residence super Bowl champion,

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Speaker 1: our Cowboys insider, mister Rob Phillips, and everybody's favorite mister

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Speaker 1: Heck Maharrison. This sultry voice of heck Ma Harrison I'm

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's glass, you're with us? And oh yeah, And

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Speaker 1: now I just want to I want to preface this

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Speaker 1: of where do you start. Where do you start with personnel,

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Speaker 1: front office? Where do you start addressing changes? Where do

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Speaker 1: you start making changes in terms of the Cowboys in

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Speaker 1: their makeup of a roster or a staff or whatever

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Speaker 1: set the players. We said that at this point, whenever

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Speaker 1: gets worse, it ultimately probably goes on the talent of

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Speaker 1: the players. Will Rob. Yesterday they started to address that

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Speaker 1: trading Everson Griffin to the Detroit Lions for a sixth

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Speaker 1: fifth round pick. But dissect this deal for me, Rob

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Speaker 1: and tell us how it is a win for the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys and also it's a little bit of a win

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Speaker 1: for Everson Griffin. Yeah, they save I think three million bucks,

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Speaker 1: you know, half his salary for this season or what

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Speaker 1: he was going to make ultimately on the one year deal.

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Speaker 1: And look, you know if he was going to leave

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Speaker 1: in free agency next year, you're trying to get a

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Speaker 1: compensatory draft pick, so you kind of look at it

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Speaker 1: that way. And on the other side of it, it's

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Speaker 1: opening up snaps for younger guys, guys that you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they look at it and say, oh,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have a significant drop off. To be quite

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Speaker 1: honest with you, they want to get Randy Gregory Moore snaps.

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Speaker 1: I believe he had six against Washington in his season debut.

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Speaker 1: You've been on the table for Bradley and I Kyle

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Speaker 1: and he might definitely get more snaps now. Duran's Armstrong

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Speaker 1: how it goes. I think we've been talking for a

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Speaker 1: while that you know, this didn't seem like a fit,

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Speaker 1: I think the only thing missing on this show was balloons.

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Speaker 1: Many everybody was pretty excited about it. Yeah, but as

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Speaker 1: we'll continue to get into you know, a lot of

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Speaker 1: the moves they made on the defensive side of the

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Speaker 1: changes coming, and Rob made it. Rob makes a good point, though.

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Speaker 1: The thing is is as a show, we say it

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Speaker 1: with our chest quite a bit, and we're very excited,

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Speaker 1: say it with our chest with like we were wrong.

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Speaker 1: We we missed this one. We all missed it, and

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Speaker 1: we weren't alone in that regard. I think a lot

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Speaker 1: it just ultimately didn't pan out. Hey, man, I wrote

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Speaker 1: I feel like one of those one of those promotional

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Speaker 1: like I cannot believe this season. I mean you talking

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Speaker 1: And you know, um Champ, You've made a lot about culture.

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Speaker 1: this stuff. Your buddy, we talked about this a lot,

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Speaker 1: I think you know, by picking up Jerald McCoy, by

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Speaker 1: that just hasn't been the case. McCoy got hurt. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, Poe's been playing Pole Griffin. Uh just didn't

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Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a I'm not a two point stance guy,

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Speaker 1: Oh No, there's definitely more smoke. I mean obviously we

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Speaker 1: So they get rid of guys like that, right, if

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Speaker 1: You don't have to be you know they don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say this league likes yes man, but

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Speaker 1: this league doesn't like guys who go who have who

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Speaker 1: voiced their opinions right, And obviously Griffin putting that out

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Speaker 1: b car, Bye bye Griffin. Who's next? And especially you know,

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Speaker 1: don't know if they view it like, oh, we're just

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Speaker 1: this as a tank move. If that's what fans were wondering. No,

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Speaker 1: the next year. I mean, if you're gonna get the

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Speaker 1: I'm the value that I'm getting right, the value proposition?

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Speaker 1: Hero of Talking Cowboys. Welcome back in to the SWBC

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the screen. Isaiah stand back, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: heck my Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeomans and guys, we gotta

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Speaker 1: preview this, uh, this Cowboys Eagles matchup. And I wrote this,

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Speaker 1: I wrote this in Big Picture yesterday. But usually whenever

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Speaker 1: there's a battle for first place between the Eagles and

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, it's a primetime matchup, and it's still going

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Speaker 1: to be in primetime, but it's it's a matchup that

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Speaker 1: everybody has to tune into because it's the rivalry, there's

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Speaker 1: the pedigree, there's the history between these two teams. But

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Speaker 1: this time there's a combined four wins between the two

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Speaker 1: teams before before they meet on Sunday. But heckmo, whenever

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Speaker 1: you look at this, yeah, we're in week eight exactly.

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Speaker 1: We've had seven games and there's combined or fourteen games

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Speaker 1: I guess between the two and they've combined for four wins.

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Speaker 1: So heck, whenever you look at this this offense for Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: Carson wins and then it's a bunch of injuries. If

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Speaker 1: we're being honest all the way through. What scares you

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Speaker 1: the most whenever it comes to the Eagles on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the line of scrimmage. Yeah, obviously what

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Speaker 1: scares me is their running game because we hadn't been

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Speaker 1: able to stop anybody. And even with the injuries that

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Speaker 1: injuries that they've had to their offensive line, and so

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Speaker 1: they're playing with a bunch of backups. But you know,

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Speaker 1: this is a robbery game, So throw all the records

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Speaker 1: out because it's it's Philadelphia in Dallas, right And I'm

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Speaker 1: still I'm still ticked off about what happened last year. Man,

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Speaker 1: we had an opportunity to win the division, had everything

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Speaker 1: to play for, and we lost that game. So I

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Speaker 1: had This is a game that I definitely had circle.

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Speaker 1: But coach Peterson is going to have his offense ready

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Speaker 1: to go. They deal with a bunch of formations that

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Speaker 1: I believe that's gonna give our defense some problems. You

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Speaker 1: guys talked about it as film study, and Isaiah eloquently

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Speaker 1: laid it out, you know, just the way that they

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Speaker 1: spread teams out. Carson Wentz is a twenty twenty version

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Speaker 1: of himself right now, and it's just it's not good.

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Speaker 1: He's uh has ten turnovers so far, and I think

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Speaker 1: that is the one thing that's costing h this team.

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Speaker 1: But he still has the moxie to bring these guys back,

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Speaker 1: as you saw last week against the Giants. But as

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Speaker 1: far as a matchup, it's Richard Rogers the tight end.

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Speaker 1: I mean, even though Ernst and Goddard are hurt, they

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Speaker 1: And so there's a lot of that's the guys Greg

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Speaker 1: ward Um and fold them the other receiver, those possession guys,

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Speaker 1: but they still have the ability to stretch the field.

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Speaker 1: So for me, I just want to see where the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are going to apply that pressure because on that

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Speaker 1: offensive line, like I said, they have a bunch of

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Speaker 1: guys that are hurt so collapsed in the pocket and

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Speaker 1: hopefully getting getting turnovers from wins is going to be

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Speaker 1: the key to this game. Uh, yep, I agree. Heck,

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Speaker 1: and if you guys haven't seen the film room with

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Speaker 1: myself and Kyle. You guys need to gonna check that

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Speaker 1: Go to the website. M But you know these guys,

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Speaker 1: the running game is nice. Um, they do something, they

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Speaker 1: do some odd stuff. Many they do some stuff. I

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Speaker 1: Um that deserves a play. Yesterday that we showed whether

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Speaker 1: just gashed Baltimore. It's just it's crazy the type of

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Speaker 1: stuff they're doing. But they want to spread you out

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Speaker 1: the area that we've had issues and the thing that

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Speaker 1: was misdirection, right, you maybe of LA came out and

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Speaker 1: they were running bootlegs and nakeds left and right. And

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Speaker 1: our linebackers are super aggressive, right, We know our linebackers

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Speaker 1: are super aggressive. They want to play downhill, they want

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Speaker 1: to come hit you. And now teams are running misdirection,

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Speaker 1: now Jalen and those guys who are looking now, they're

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Speaker 1: second guessing themselves. They know that they're aggressive, they're cognizant

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Speaker 1: Now they're like, I can't do what I really want

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Speaker 1: all kinds of confused. And this team is gonna be

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Speaker 1: no different. They're gonna run misdirection, they're gonna spread you out.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna try to get our defense to go across

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Speaker 1: the whole fifty three and a half yards of this field,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna try to run right up the middle

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Speaker 1: of this of this defense where we've had issues all

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Speaker 1: year long. Man, Heck that game last year in Philly,

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Speaker 1: that seems like a lifetime ago. He had Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 1: we had fans in the stands twenty twenty. Man, you

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Speaker 1: guys are you guys are right on? Like the matchup

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Speaker 1: that concerns me is Boston Scott for them US. He's

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Speaker 1: five five five six running back and Miles Sanders has

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Speaker 1: been really productive when he's been in there, but he's

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Speaker 1: injured and I don't think he's gonna make it back

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Speaker 1: this week. We'll see. I think he's a getting six

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Speaker 1: you talked Isaiah about exactly what has been their problem

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Speaker 1: got to move latterly and in space. And you watch

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Speaker 1: Boston Scott when he's had opportunities for them last year

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Speaker 1: and then last week against the Giants in the passing

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Speaker 1: game out wide, out of the backfield. He kind of

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Speaker 1: has some sprolls to his game where he can do

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Speaker 1: a lot, yes, a lot of different things for you.

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Speaker 1: And he's tough talk, he's tough to diagnose, and he's

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Speaker 1: tough to bring down. And with the Cowboys speed that

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Speaker 1: we've seen defensively against a guy like Scott, I think

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be a matchup issue. They've got to be

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Speaker 1: ready for him and WinCE. It's not been a good

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Speaker 1: year for him statistically, but I've been so impressed the

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Speaker 1: last two games I've watched of him just battling out

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Speaker 1: there with no offensive line. His top two tight ends hurt,

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Speaker 1: that all of his receivers hurt except for some of

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Speaker 1: the backups they've had in there, and he keeps grinding

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Speaker 1: it out and fighting and trying to find a way

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Speaker 1: buying time with his feet. They've got account for that,

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Speaker 1: you know. It's it's definitely not pretty with Wentz, but

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Speaker 1: he's finding a way to get it done for them,

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Speaker 1: or at least keep them competitive. Hey, Rob, Hey, and

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Speaker 1: don't don't be surprised if you see a heavy dose

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Speaker 1: of Jalen Hurts. Don't be surprised because this is they

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Speaker 1: utilize him a lot against Baltimore, and we have a

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Speaker 1: so um, Jalen Hurts has come in and he's been

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Speaker 1: very effective. Man, So have your I have your intent

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Speaker 1: as up for him. I think you'll also look at

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz in a different light at the end of

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Speaker 1: this season than maybe you had previously, because previously, the

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Speaker 1: couldn't stay healthy one and two, he wasn't necessarily a

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Speaker 1: clutch quarterback. But I think this year he's kind of

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Speaker 1: turned that narrative around because, like Rob said, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: really have a whole lot around him. It's a very

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Speaker 1: similar situation that the Cowboys are dealing with and WinCE

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Speaker 1: in the final two drives of that game on Thursday

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Speaker 1: Night football win five of seven for one hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty one yards and two touchdowns in order to go

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Speaker 1: back to back seventy plus yard drives to win that

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Speaker 1: football game. But they are two four and one. It's true.

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Speaker 1: It's true, two four one. They suck. They are horrible also,

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Speaker 1: all right, So it's just I have a hard time

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Speaker 1: you poking up the egg. You put some respect on

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Speaker 1: the division leaders. Okay, I can't. I'm incapable. I'm incapable.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we're I don't think we're hyping up

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Speaker 1: it just I just I just felt. I just felt that,

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Speaker 1: a little bit, but the Eagles and not just I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have However, Yes, it's still going to be a

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Speaker 1: tough matchup for this defense, which I guess if you

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Speaker 1: throw the Alan Eagles out there, it might be a

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Speaker 1: tough matchup for this defense. Right now, the Wakeland Wolverines,

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Speaker 1: Frisco Lone Star Rangers. Now, with that being said, you

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Speaker 1: look outside, and I mean I've been really impressed with

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Speaker 1: what the Eagles have shown in terms of depth at

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Speaker 1: wide receiver because you don't have alshon Jeffrey he's been

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Speaker 1: out for a good amount of time. Of course John

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Speaker 1: also had de Sean Jackson who's on IR. They've had

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Speaker 1: Jalen Rager who's on IR, and then Marquis Goodwin, who

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Speaker 1: was their big addition this offseason. Of course opted out

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Speaker 1: before the season and even got underway, but greg Ward

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Speaker 1: has really stepped up for them. Travis fulgam is absolutely

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Speaker 1: stepped up. He's played fantastic. I'm interested to see what

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Speaker 1: you guys think about the wide receiving corp as a

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Speaker 1: hole in one kind receiver. He is a huge receiver.

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Speaker 1: And then also not to mention what they go up

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Speaker 1: and potentially Cheetah Alusier would match up against these guys,

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Speaker 1: and I think they match up well, guys, and especially

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Speaker 1: for Treyvon Diggs, who look man, he has had the

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Speaker 1: full gamut of every I mean just start from week

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Speaker 1: big plays and stretching the field. He just has to

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Speaker 1: say assignment sound. He got caught with his hand in

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Speaker 1: the cookie jar last week on that bomb, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure he's gone over the tape and doesn't like that.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, Folgum from Old Dominion is

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Speaker 1: a dude that will stretch the film the field on you.

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Speaker 1: And Grant Ward is a Texas kid. He just happens

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Speaker 1: to play for the wrong team. He's also a great

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Speaker 1: possession receiver. They do a lot of good things as

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Speaker 1: a duo. They work really well together. But they got

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Speaker 1: Um and and as Isaiah and Robert said, Man Scott Man,

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Speaker 1: he's going to be a problem for us out in

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Speaker 1: the flat and we've been susceptible in those areas, so

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Speaker 1: look for Peterson to definitely try and expose us there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: as we look at when we talk about personnel, Kyle,

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Speaker 1: personnel wise, I think we match up just fine. But

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Speaker 1: it comes down to the scheme and our and our

639
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: as we've seen on film, we like to run a

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Speaker 1: lot of cover four and the reason why our flats

641
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: have been the issues because in cover four you have

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00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: four guys that are now going deep into the coverage,

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Speaker 1: and you have three guys that you expect to cover

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Speaker 1: fifty three and a half yards. So flat routs are

645
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: going to be open all day long. And if you

646
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: decide to try to have that that corner, try to

647
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: squat on that right in terms of like a cover

648
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: two type type setting, Well, now you have a hole

649
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: behind him, right, So we have to figure out we

650
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: have to figure out what we want to do scheme wise. Um,

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00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: but personnel wise, I think we're fine. Um, but Mike Nolan,

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do this week? Right? What would

653
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: you do scheme wise? What would you do in order

654
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: to switch that up from a Cover four into whatever

655
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Speaker 1: you're gonna do this week against Philly? Oh, I'm playing

656
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm playing press man or I'm playing three all day long.

657
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to single high safety. I'm not allowing a

658
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: team to run the ball on us. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: we've had guys beat us, but these guys are not

660
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: the guys that Diggs, Diggs and company has faced this year. Um,

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00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: they're not. I mean, you still respect them because they're

662
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: in the league. You still respect them because they you know,

663
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: they they're starters right now. But these aren't their main guys.

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Speaker 1: These aren't there guys that they're expecting to beat you

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00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: every single play in play out. Um, So I like

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00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: our percentages in that regard. What I don't like our

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00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: percentages on is our defensive line, right and I think

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00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: even with going they're gonna go these guys go four

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Speaker 1: wide to one side. I mean, these guys, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: do some crazy stuff and they'll put four figures on

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Speaker 1: one side and one on the other side and empty

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Speaker 1: you out. Oh and by the way, Jalen Hurts it

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00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: is one of the receivers, or he's at quarterback and

674
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: hurt and Wins is one of the receivers. So I

675
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: mean they're gonna they're gonna try to do some things

676
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: to you. So why not just match up and just

677
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: and challenge your defense, challenge your secondary to say, hey,

678
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna put you guys into position all week long.

679
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna practice, we're gonna practice this, and our challenge

680
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: to you is can you stick these guys man to man?

681
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: When you when you call out a competitor, a true competitor,

682
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: and you let him know the week in advance that hey,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna rest on your shoulders. We're not gonna

684
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: go zone defense. We're playing man all game long. It

685
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: rests on you guys will step up, because nobody wants

686
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: to be embarrassed. Man. If these guys are true competitors,

687
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Speaker 1: which I believe most of them are, and hopefully get

688
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: Cheeto back this week and hopefully that helps you. It's

689
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: just a little better end, you know, to go back

690
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: there and try to cover these guys. Sean Lee also,

691
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that, Isaiah. Now I like that, Isaiah.

692
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: I like the fact that you know press, man, cover three,

693
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: all of those things. You want to give your guys

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to make plays. Put a hat on the

695
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: hat I call a cat coverage, and the these guys

696
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: can play that coverage on the set of receivers. What

697
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: I want to see from this defense is when you

698
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: get punched in the mouth, what do you do right

699
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: this open and drive? Because that's what's been the mo

700
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: of this team. If something bad happens, the whole thing

701
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: goes downhill. There's gonna be some adversity in this game.

702
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Speaker 1: How are these guys gonna step up in that because

703
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: you know that you are going to have to make

704
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:29,959
Speaker 1: a play defensively, especially if you have a rookie quarterback. Yeah,

705
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 1: I get off the field. I think part to your point,

706
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: I think a lot of what's happened. You know, it

707
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: can be demoralizing when they when you get run on

708
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: early and often and you're on the field a lot,

709
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 1: and I think it has it has a snowball effect

710
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: as the game goes on. I think that's what's happened too.

711
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: They to Isaiah's point, upfront, they've just got to be

712
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: more stout. I know the kind of the personnel is

713
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: what it is. But if they don't stop the run, um,

714
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna struggle against every team they play the rest

715
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Speaker 1: of the way. To me, that's been the the biggest

716
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: problem they've had. That's what Jerry Jones talked about yesterday

717
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: and what he said whenever he came to Hey, personnel

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Speaker 1: changes are going to be coming because we have to

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Speaker 1: stop the run. And maybe that's what that is. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's just getting guys in there like Bradley and I

721
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Speaker 1: or Randy Gregory or Justin Hamilton or a Neville Gallimore

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Speaker 1: who want to play and who want to have those

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Speaker 1: kinds of snaps, Well, they're gonna have a chance against

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Speaker 1: a running game like the Philadelphia Eagles with also a

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Speaker 1: of course join us for breakfast tomorrow each and every day,

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Speaker 1: but especially tomorrow nine fifteen because of Mike McCarthy pushing

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Speaker 1: our pushing our show up. But we'll have some fun

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Speaker 1: tomorrow out in the cold. Oh wait, wasn't supposed to

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Speaker 1: say that, but I'm gonna say it anyways, all right, Isaiah,

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Speaker 1: and Isaiah. I'm curious because we were just talking about

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Speaker 1: Greg Ward, who's a quarterback turned wide receiver. Do you

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Speaker 1: guys have a group text of quarterbacks turned wide receivers

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Speaker 1: when they get into the NFL? Do you guys like

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00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: have any kind of talking back and forth? Is there

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Speaker 1: any any connection there between y'all two not on a

788
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: group text on me? And it is just four three

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Speaker 1: forty club. That's it. It's four threason under. That's it,

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00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: for threason under. Okay, okay, that was a subtle flex.

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00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: You didn't even want to talk about our groups at

792
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: the same time and not at all like that's not

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Speaker 1: us headman three. Sorry, you guys are in training. You

794
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: guys are in training, absolutely not. I mentioned this a

795
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: little bit earlier whenever he comes to the personnel changes

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Speaker 1: in some of the roster moves that we've seen over

797
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours, and of course the Cowboys

798
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: trading Everson Griffin. The report comes out about maybe Don

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00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: Tari Poe or Daryl Worley would be on the move

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Speaker 1: as of today, and how we don't really see that

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Speaker 1: as a tank scenario. We don't see it as tanking moves. Well,

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Speaker 1: I've got a bold prediction for you guys. We've only

803
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: got like five minutes to address it. However, I think

804
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys are not done making moves like that

805
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: of unloading talent. But I also don't think they're in

806
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: terms of bringing someone in. I think they might be

807
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: trying to look for a defensive tackle. I'm not saying

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00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: that off of anything that I've heard. It's just a

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00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: gut feeling that we're I'm saying it with my chest.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's a possibility to maybe go out

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Speaker 1: and get a little interior line play or maybe try

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00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: and find somebody out there that's available via trade without

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Speaker 1: giving up too much. Nobody wants to touch that one. Yeah,

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00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: I said, I think there's always a possibility. Right, Um,

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Speaker 1: the situation seemingly fits. But I think that I think

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Speaker 1: this this front office is done with the veteran projects

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00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: right for this year at least, I think they've they swung.

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Speaker 1: They swung hard, right, They swung with three three of

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Speaker 1: them on the defensive line. Three miss so three misses right,

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00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: which we thought were just you know, sure shots. You

821
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Speaker 1: thought it was just all day long, but they weren't that.

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Speaker 1: So I think now they're just gonna rest in there,

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00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: and they're young guys, and they're gonna allow their they're

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Speaker 1: young guys to kind of you know, spread their wings

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00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think if they do bring in

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Speaker 1: another veteran at any position, I think it has to

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Speaker 1: be on the back end, And I think it has

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Speaker 1: to be a position, you know, it has to be

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Speaker 1: a safety position that you just can't you just can't

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Speaker 1: miss it. Safety or splash, you know. I think I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about at both. Well, there's there's some corners out

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Speaker 1: there too, right, There's some corners out there too, so, um,

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00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's just some sure guys out there

834
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Speaker 1: that you don't really have to question whether or not

835
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Speaker 1: they're gonna be successful. And I think if you are

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Speaker 1: type of guys you gonna grab. Hey. Rob said something

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00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: yesterday about you know, the salary cap. But whatever we do,

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Speaker 1: deal because of some looming contracts that will have next year.

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Speaker 1: So I think, uh, you know, Isaiah, You're definitely right. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they may be done at this point, but we still

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Speaker 1: have to keep in mind, man, we are tied for

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Speaker 1: first place and the yeah time for there's a three

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Speaker 1: way tie for first place. But the trade deadline is

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Speaker 1: next week, guys. But we still the trade line Tuesday, Yes, Tuesday, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So that's that's a lot of things that can happen

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Speaker 1: in between now and then. So Rob, what do you

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Speaker 1: think you may You may be right, Kyle, you know, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Jerry was asked what last Friday, would they be more

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Speaker 1: in tune to, you know, make a move to bring

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Speaker 1: in as the unload and and he said probably to

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Speaker 1: bring in but we'll see. That was before the Washington game.

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Speaker 1: I don't, you know, I don't know. I just I don't.

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Speaker 1: I have a hard time seeing them give up high

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Speaker 1: draft picks before the deadline. You know. Yeah, they, like

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Speaker 1: Isaiah said, they might make a move. They might bring

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Speaker 1: in somebody to help on the back end or defensive line.

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Speaker 1: I think we've all kind of cited those is are

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Speaker 1: the two biggest needs. But uh, you know, maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: there's a maybe there's a somewhat minor move out there

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Speaker 1: where they can get some help and because ultimately they're

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Speaker 1: not out of it, you know, and and they're going

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Speaker 1: to try to continue to compete as Mike McCarthy tries

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Speaker 1: to build this culture that we're talking about, build this program.

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Speaker 1: So there might be an opportunity out there, but I

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Speaker 1: don't I wouldn't foresee a Marii Cooper type blockbuster trade

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Speaker 1: coming up. I just I'd have a hard time seeing that.

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Speaker 1: I think I think if something does happen, it comes

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Speaker 1: from an organization that has that's known for hard work

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Speaker 1: and diligence in a strong culture. I don't think it

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Speaker 1: comes from you know. I think I know, like like

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Speaker 1: Dune laps out there, I don't think you go get

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Speaker 1: done that from Cincinnati. You know when you talk about

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Speaker 1: guys like Gilmore, you know about making big splashes. Well

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Speaker 1: there's somebody you can get from New England because you

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Speaker 1: know what they're coming from, right, and you don't have

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Speaker 1: to try to teach them to play hard. You'd have

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Speaker 1: to try to teach them to work hard, like they

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Speaker 1: are coming from that already. So you could adopt that

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Speaker 1: and try to have that enforcement all your team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I mean the Jets are in that conversation for

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Speaker 1: a certain player over there. I mean, you're not in

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Speaker 1: that kind of that was the opposite. That was the

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Speaker 1: opposite of what I say it. That's what I meant,

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Speaker 1: Like the Jets are in the opposite of that conversation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I don't disagree. I think you get the playing

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Speaker 1: time for the guys who are here and the guys

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Speaker 1: who you want to develop. And I mean, once again,

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Speaker 1: Bradley and I, I just want to see more snaps.

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Speaker 1: That's all I got, And maybe we get it this week.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I finally get to see fifty six active and

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Speaker 1: rolling on that that off of that edge. I hope

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Speaker 1: that that's or I hope that comes to fruition this week.

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Speaker 1: But that's gonna do it here for Talking Cowboys. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back tomorrow. Like I said, come get breakfast with

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Speaker 1: us at nine fifteen. But for now, Isaiah stand back

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Speaker 1: for Rob Phillips, for heck My Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeoman

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Speaker 1: saying so long from the Star in Frisco Special. Thanks

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Speaker 1: to Chris Beam in the back as well. Can't forget him.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow here on Talking Cowboys. This has

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