1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: What is up everybody? DJ, Bucky back here on Move 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: the Sticks and Buck. I always ask how you're doing. 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 1: But now that we have a game tonight and you 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: happen to be in the city going to the game tonight, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: how fired up are you? Man? I'm really fired up. 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm really fired up because it's uh, it's exciting whenever 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: the season starts, and the Hall of Fame game is 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: kind of the extra game where you get a chance 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: to see all the young players and those things with DJ, 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, like once it starts, like once it starts tonight, 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: it is on like because it would be non stop 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: until the middle of February. So it's a fun time. 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: It's fun to watch these guys. It's fun to watch 15 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: the Gold Jacket gays who would be in attendance. Um. 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: But it's the official kickoff to the season. I mean, 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: even though we have the real kickoff like in September, 18 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: but toficial kick off because once it starts, it's going back. 19 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: Do you ever playing this thing or be on a 20 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: team that Scott playing this thing? No? I did not, 21 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: because this is a game for some players, depending on 22 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: you're standing on the team, is great for others not 23 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: so much. But it's, uh, it's different. It's a lot 24 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: of fun, you know. It's it's different because they've moved 25 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: a game because now they have the game before the 26 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: ceremonies after that staff few years ago, where they used 27 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: to have it at the end of the weekend. But yeah, 28 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: we'll see that it it goes all right. We're gonna get 29 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: into a really kind of a fascinating study that was 30 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: done by the thirty third team, which is a really 31 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: cool site and it's some excellent work, and they did 32 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: a study on the organizations that have converted the most 33 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: of their draft picks into second contracts, whether with them 34 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: or with somebody else, basically saying, the guys you drafted 35 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: stayed in the league, which means you're doing a pretty 36 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: good job. So it's not a perfect study because you 37 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: think about where guys were picked, and some teams might 38 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: have had a lot of six and seventh round picks 39 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: and those didn't convert. Take away a grain of salt, 40 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: but it's fascinating. We're gonna look at that and just 41 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: a little bit also gonna look at the game, uh, 42 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: with the with the Raiders and the Jacks. We've talked 43 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: a lot about the Jacks are gonna lean into the 44 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: Raiders a little bit on today's show, But I want 45 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: to start buck because I think you know, we always 46 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: tap into our scouting experiences, but I always, I always 47 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: like getting your playing side of things. You've you've been 48 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: in preseason as a rookie high pick where you you 49 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: you made the team, like you're not sweating at but 50 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: there's been other times in your career where you've come 51 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: in there and you're fighting and clawn to make sure 52 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: you find yourself on that roster. What's the like give 53 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: us a little sense of the mindset and how the 54 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: difference can be from no One You're good to know one. 55 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta scrap make sure I make this team. 56 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: I think when you're rooking, you come in as a 57 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: draft pick. Is the excitement of playing. I mean you 58 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: you you know you don't even think about like being good, 59 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: Like at the second round pick, I didn't necessarily think 60 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: about like the team. Is just the excitement of playing 61 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: in your your first pro game. And so you have 62 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: the nerves and you've heard all about pro football, but 63 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: it's the the first realization of the dream. Like the 64 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: practices and all this stuff is different. But when you 65 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: put on the uniform and the helmet and you run 66 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: out in the crowd and the opponent in those things, 67 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: it becomes real. And I just remember, like the rubber legs, 68 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, like everything that you would get in high 69 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: school all over again, the butterflies, the rubber legs. Unfortunately 70 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: for me, I was returning to kick, so I got 71 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: a chance to touch the ball early and these it 72 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: was a blur. I remember them kicking it off and 73 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: then the play was over, and I don't remember anything between. 74 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: It was so fast, and so then you eventually settle 75 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: down and you started playing. As a bubble guy. A 76 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: roster guy is different because depending on where you are 77 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: on the depth chart, you may not get your first 78 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: action into the middle of the second quarter or in 79 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: the second half, and so you have to stay dialed 80 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: in when everyone is relaxing around you, all the first 81 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: teamers are putting the hats on, popping the pads off. 82 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: For you, it's it's serious business, and so can you 83 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: stay locked in and focus when everybody on the outside, 84 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: fans included, are saying this part doesn't matter. We've seen 85 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: the starters. But now can you watch and go out 86 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: and play when the quote unquote squirrels are out and 87 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: play at a high level. That's the part that is 88 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: the trick. Can you play when it doesn't appear to 89 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: everyone anyone really cares about what's going on on the field. 90 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: And I know I've seen these guys and the teams 91 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: that I've worked for. I'm curious that guys you've played 92 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: with where there were there red light guys where you 93 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: know you've been in camp with with these guys for 94 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, and there's some we call them 95 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: Thursday all Americans, right, unbelievable, And then all of a sudden, 96 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: the lights come on and you're getting there on the 97 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: field in a preseason game an opponent and they kind 98 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: of disappear. But on the other side, you got some 99 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: guys like I just don't know them, I just don't 100 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: see it. Then all of a sudden, the light goes on. 101 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: You're like, WHOA, that's a different that's a different dude 102 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: out here tonight. It is a different dude in DJ 103 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, as scouts, like we say a lot of 104 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: stuff up until that first preseason game. Man, I really 105 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: like then we get to go feel like this team 106 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: is good and coaches are denied. After that first preseason game, 107 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: the depth chart changes, like all these big plans that 108 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: we have for these players and this and that and 109 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: veterans that are just kind of out there in no 110 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: man's land, the false starts ringing after the first preseason 111 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: game because when you see guys in action, you either 112 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: have that whoa you get on the horn, and so 113 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: it changes, and so these games matter, and like the 114 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: little appearances that happened in game one, they would change 115 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: the depth chart and guys would get on the horn 116 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,119 Speaker 1: and they'll started going to their emergency boards and looking 117 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: at players that hey, maybe we maybe we need a 118 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: little more depth here at corner. Maybe we need to 119 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: bring some of these vests in or pick up the phone, 120 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: and we might just want to be ready because I 121 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: don't know if I got that we were banking on. 122 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if if he's going to be there, 123 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: and it's really off that first impression of a preseason game. 124 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: The other thing I want to point out is the 125 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: importance of these you know, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round 126 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: guys who kind of entered the league a little bit 127 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: on that roster bubble. Guys all been star players in 128 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: college that they've been out there on offense or defense. 129 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: Very rarely have they played a lot of special teams. 130 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: Now there's some programs like Notre Dame is one, they 131 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: play a lot of their guys on core teams. UM, 132 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: but that is a huge evaluation for them getting to 133 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: see live special teams reps, to see man kind of 134 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: roster This guy, can he be my fourth can't be 135 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: my fourth fifth receiver? If you can't cover kicks, I 136 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: can't get you active. You know, maybe you make the team, 137 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: you're not getting a jersey on game that you're gonna 138 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: be an active So that to me, offense, defense, I 139 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: think the fans are kind of curious see what these 140 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: first second round picks. To me like where the real 141 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: important stuff is watch special teams and watch the back 142 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: end roster guys. That's where those jobs get decided. One 143 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: of the things that I've always advised young players and 144 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: comes from personal experience. UM, when you're getting ready for 145 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: training camp and getting ready for preseason games, conditioning is everything. 146 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: Because DJ you alluded to it for the first time, 147 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: and a lot of these players careers, they're being asked 148 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: to play special teams. So for instance, I'm a cornerback. Uh, 149 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: when the punt team runs out, I go as a 150 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: gunner and I run down the field and cover the kick. 151 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: My unit is now up on defense. They have an 152 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: eight nine ten played ride. We finally forced a punt. 153 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: Now I gotta go outside and play vice. And so 154 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: what happens real quickly the fatigue sets in and you're 155 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: just in survival mode, right, And so if you haven't 156 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: done a really good job of getting yourself um condition 157 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: mentally and physically, you just fall apart in the preseason game. 158 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: And it won't necessarily be because of skill. It will 159 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: just be because I am so fatigued that I can't 160 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: focus and lock in. And so a lot of it is, Yeah, 161 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: we're looking at the talent and skills, we're looking at 162 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: the conditioning, and we're looking to see who is going 163 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: to be the same player that we saw on the 164 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: practice field on game day. Can he take all the 165 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: great things that he did on the practice field throughout 166 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: training camp and O T A s and all season 167 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: workouts well that players show up and play well on 168 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: game day because you talked about those red light players. 169 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: There are a ton of them that can't take what 170 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: they do in practice and make it translate into the games. Yeah, 171 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: I mean one of some of those other you know, 172 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: things you looked for in the preseason game. I know 173 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: we've talked about this in years past, but it's totally different. 174 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: It's way easier for evaluators now. We used to have 175 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: to go to the game. You take that folder. I 176 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: don't have one around me. Yeah, boxes, so you have. 177 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: I mean it would literally be like this big, You've 178 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: got this, and you've got every little box. So all 179 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: the backing guys. So you're you're going and scouting other 180 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: teams in preseason. And one of the things you would 181 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: have to do, remember this, you'd have to write entered 182 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: the game fourteen o three, third quarter. So then I 183 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: could go back and watch the tape and I could 184 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: find him, because these guys are shuttling in and out 185 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: and I don't know where he is. I might watch 186 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: the whole game and three of these guys didn't play. 187 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: One of them was only in for a series, and 188 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: you might miss it if you don't pay attention. Now 189 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: I can get in the computer type the guy's name up, 190 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: it will populate every play that he played. It's a 191 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: totally different, totally different setup. It is totally different. But 192 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: you remember how stressful in the chaoticy was because this 193 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: wasn't a normal hustle as college scals. So the way 194 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: that it works, when you get into the preseason, all 195 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: the color scals go into their respective teams city they 196 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: go they said this schedule like we used to, Oh, 197 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: I gotta set my schedule a book, all my hotel reservations, 198 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: get all my car rentals, and all the other stuff. 199 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: People will be um very particular about that. But then 200 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: you're scouting your own team and making reports. But then 201 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: the other part of it, when you go home, you 202 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: now are assigned to some preseason games that might be 203 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: in your area. So the Chargers were always the team 204 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,599 Speaker 1: that I would have to go see. So it's the 205 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: Charges versus another random team. I would have a list 206 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: of people. You talk about the file folder that you 207 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: would put all the boxes in, and you put the 208 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: numbers in and the position, and you're trying to look 209 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: at real time. You're trying to scout real time and 210 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: submit a report the next day. And so I just 211 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: remember and this. This is the funny thing. I remember 212 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: when Antonio Gates was playing for the San Diego Charges 213 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: and it was his free agent year, the first year 214 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: out right, and he's wearing I think he wore forty 215 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: nine in the preseason, and so I'm like, okay, I 216 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: see him. He runs around, the ball doesn't really go 217 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: in his direction. So you gotta put a grade on 218 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: what you saw. And I might have give him like 219 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: a four point nine, like incomplete, I don't know whatever. 220 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: And then like DJ like a year or whatever. Lady, 221 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: he's making these plays and I'm like, I don't even 222 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: see I remember seeing him, and so it's one of 223 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: those things where you're trying to flash out and all that. 224 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: But it is one of those things the second half. 225 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: As a scout, you better eat up before the game 226 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: because during the game, there's no getting up and getting 227 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: a drink and all that, because there are too many 228 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: people shuttling in and out the game to keep up 229 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: with the numbers, and you've got your binoculars. You gotta 230 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: look at the kick teams. You finally get the numbers 231 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: down for kickoff and then oh my god, defenses up. 232 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: Oh they've already substituted when did he get in the game, 233 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: and so it is very stressful. Let's let's give a 234 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: homework assignment because I know we have a lot of 235 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: people that that listen to the pod and and watch 236 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: the clips um that that are aspiring scouts, a lot 237 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: of people that are in college personnel working with teams. 238 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: Let me give you a little homework if you want 239 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: to kind of, you know, get a taste of what 240 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: I like to be a scout. I want you to 241 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: just pick one team and that's gonna be your team 242 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: you follow in the preseason. So pick one team that 243 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: you work for, right whatever your favorite teams you're like 244 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: to be. Oh, you're a Packer fan, so you're gonna say, okay, 245 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: I work for the Packers, the team i'm gonna watch. 246 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to watch the Rams, Okay, And then get 247 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: a piece of paper out. Go look at the roster 248 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: right down all of their fourth and beyond draft picks 249 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: from this year, so fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round rookies, 250 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: and then their rookie free agents. Okay, so we're just 251 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: gonna look at these first year guys. When you're doing 252 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: it as a team, A lot of times we look 253 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: at the second third year guys. Do it. Let's just 254 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: just for the exercise, print out that list. You might 255 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: have no more than twenty. It might be you know, 256 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen names. So you're gonna write those down. 257 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: Then you're gonna know the Packers roster because you're your 258 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: favorite team, whatever your favorite team is. And then watch 259 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: those preseason games and at the end of the preseason, 260 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: with those fifteen twenty players names, you need to label 261 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: him in one of these categories, like we would do 262 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 1: this is somebody I would claim. In other words, like 263 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: if he got cut, I would put in a claim 264 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: because he makes our fifty three man roster. This is 265 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: somebody that could be on our practice squad. So if 266 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,599 Speaker 1: he gets cut, we're gonna try and sign him to 267 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: be on our practice squad. This could be a workout guy. Okay, 268 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: not gonna claim him. I don't know if he's worth 269 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: the practice squad, but he's intriguing, he's got a uh, 270 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: you know, some speed, or he's got this. Out of 271 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: the other would bring them for workout are number four, 272 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: it's a reject, not interested. But you could take those 273 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: fifteen names and then you put him in one of 274 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: those four categories. That's that's actually a pretty good that's 275 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 1: a pretty good example of what you would do is 276 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: a scout during this time of year. It absolutely is, 277 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: and it's one of those things. And I think what 278 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: this will do, and I think for everyone who kind 279 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: of fancies himself as an aspiring scout or guys who 280 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: just love the NFL draft, I think the preseason is 281 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: really important, not only in terms of like looking at 282 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: what the guys that you saw in twin twin twenty 283 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: two draft class are doing, but just kind of trying 284 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: and get a sense of who is playing around the league. 285 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: Because I think what you do is if you really 286 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: study the league, it might help you become a little 287 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: more forgiving when it comes to the grades, particularly when 288 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: it comes to offensive linemen specifically. Yeah, like if if 289 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: you if you can watch preseason and see who is 290 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: actually playing, like guys who are playing are making rosters, 291 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: the flaws and awe, I think it would give you 292 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: a greater sense of, oh, this is how I need 293 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: the great position. When we're beginning to talk about college guys, 294 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: because it is very looks. As much as we love 295 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: like the prototypes and we want the perfect guy who 296 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: has to balance to bide, control the long arms and 297 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: those things. Those guys are kind of unicorns. And you 298 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: have a lot of guys in the league who DJ 299 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: I remember, we go to these schools and you're like, man, 300 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: this guy can't play. Did you look at me, like, man, 301 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: this guy's play eight Eastern League, like and and and 302 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: and so. With office line in particularly, I think it's 303 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: really in portant. Look at the preseason games, look at 304 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: who performs, look at how they perform over the course 305 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: of the preseason, and I think you would be surprised 306 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: at who actually makes it in this league compared to 307 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: those who don't. I always laugh because the Pro Department 308 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: would always give the college department their marching orders before 309 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: they went out, right before you send those guys out 310 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: to these preseason games. And every year like all right, guys, 311 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: this year, keep an eye. See we find a tackle, 312 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: and see we find a corner. And I'm like, okay, 313 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: As opposed to the previous year, we're looking for a 314 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: tackle a corner. Next next year, we're gonna be looking 315 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: for a tackle on the corner. Year after that, we're 316 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: gonna looking for a tackle on everybody in the whole league. 317 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: Is looking for a tackle in the corner. Nobody's cutting 318 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: a good tackle or a good corner. It's not happening. No, 319 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: it's it's not. And so what you have to do 320 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: is you gotta find the guys that flash on special 321 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: teams because now it's the special teams. Plus can they 322 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: perform well enough for special teams to maybe earn the 323 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: right to have a jersey on the game day? Active 324 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: that's what you're trying to do. Can I can I 325 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: keep him as a special team or while he's developing 326 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: skills to be a full time player on offense or defense. 327 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: And that's why special teams matter, and is at a 328 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: time when special teams have kind of been minimized a 329 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: little bit with the rules. But you still have to 330 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: find guys that can make contributions covering kicks, returning kicks, 331 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: being blockers, being guys that can maybe block a kick um. 332 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: And so you've got to dig deeper. But you really 333 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: gotta pay attention to the to the kicking game, because 334 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: that's where a lot of these guys are gonna make 335 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: the team, no doubt. All Right, we're gonna take a 336 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: quick break, we're gonna come back and delve into this 337 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: study about teams doing the best job of converting on 338 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: these second contracts. All right, buck, So here here it 339 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: is again, this is from the thirty third team's great website. 340 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: Go check that out. Actually, good buddy, mind t J. 341 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: McCrate is now is now doing some work with them 342 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: as well. We gotta get him on the pod. Um. 343 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: But they're doing a really good job over there. It's 344 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: Mike Tannenbaum and his crew. UM. But this was the study. 345 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: So if you're looking at how well you've drafted, um, 346 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: and this is a study that goes back to two 347 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: thousand eight through two thousand seventeen. So we're not saying 348 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: that you know you've drafted this many Pro Bowlers or 349 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: you know this many starters. This is just the percentage 350 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: of players you've drafted that have earned a second contract 351 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: so they've survived in the league for more than three 352 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: or four years. UM. The top teams here Green Bay, 353 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, Miami, Baltimore, Seattle, Green Bay is want to 354 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: enjoyed a lot of success during that that time period. 355 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: Tampa's obviously want a Super Bowl. Miami, I would say 356 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: probably a little bit underperforming during this period of time 357 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: for you know, drafting some some solid players. Baltimore has 358 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: been a pretty consistent winner in Seattle obviously during that 359 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: time had a heck of a run. So the one 360 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: I would say is a little bit of the outlier. 361 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: There would be maybe Miami. Yeah, those other teams have 362 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: reputations for being drafts and developed mental programs, meaning they 363 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: do a really good job of identifying what they want. 364 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: They kind of have a standard and there's been a 365 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: lot of stability within those organizations to make sure that 366 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: they understand the profile that the kind of player that 367 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: they want, and they have a development plan that works 368 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: with the coaches to get those guys up to speed. 369 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins are a little surprising because of the 370 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: turnover and I would say maybe some of the lack 371 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: of success in terms of the record success. But when 372 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: you look they do have talented skill players. They've had 373 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: talented players um on both sides of the ball. The 374 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: anywhere they've struggled has been in the trenches offensive line. 375 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: They haven't been able to necessarily get it going, and 376 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: so that's been the biggest problem when it comes to 377 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: winning games. But in terms of procuring talent, they've been 378 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: at the top of the charts and and this is 379 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: a surprise, but yeah, I liked it. They have good players, 380 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: they just haven't put it together. Yeah, And I think 381 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: that's pretty accurate description of where they are coming into 382 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: this year. I don't think anybody disputes the fact there's 383 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: a lot of talent on their team. Now they got 384 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: to translate that into wins um. That was kind of 385 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: the takeaway there from the top. I think it's kind 386 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: of a chicken or egg argument when you think about 387 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: the continuity you use that word green Bay, it's been 388 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's been a change from Ted Thompson obviously, 389 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: but they're all in the same tree. They've all been 390 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: at Goody's been in that organization forever. They're they're definitely 391 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: a stable organization Baltimore, even from Oasi to Eric. Eric's 392 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: worked there for thirty years or however long he's been there. 393 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: So that's stability. Seattle with Pete Carroll and John Schneider, 394 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: that's a long run of stability. It's a it's a 395 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: pretty good argument. The question is, well, have they had 396 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: success which is why they've been able to stay there, 397 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: or they having success because they've stayed there. You know, 398 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: it's kind of an interesting chicken or egg argument. It 399 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: is an interesting argument, and there's something to the stability 400 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: um because what happens is everyone in the organization who 401 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: has come through to the last ten of fifteen years 402 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: knows exactly what uh the organization values, not only in 403 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,239 Speaker 1: terms of character standpoint the kind of guys that they 404 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: want to bring into the building. But then you begin 405 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 1: to have a solid feel for a these type of 406 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: offensive linemen we like, these type of cornerbacks that we like, 407 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: and so that allows you to have conversations and drafted 408 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: where you're like, hey, this guy kind of reminds me 409 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: of a previous guy that we brought in the program 410 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: that has success or maybe you have failures, but you're 411 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: able to make these comparisons, not like the TV comparisons 412 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: that we make, but the comparisons to kind of help 413 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: the coach envision how this player may come along when 414 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: he enters the program. Hey, he kind of reminds me 415 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: of this player that we had. It like, it took 416 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: a couple of years, but when it popped, it popped 417 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: in a major way. So maybe we need to kind 418 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: of put him on the simple same or similar plan. 419 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the bottom teams in terms 420 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: of converting this dead last Chicago Bears, and they are 421 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: well below everybody else. The second worst was Jacksonville at 422 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: sixty two percent. Chicago is at so they're significantly at 423 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: the bottom. And obviously, I have not enjoyed much success 424 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: during that time period that the surprising ones indies in 425 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: there um and I think that's some of the argument 426 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: about what they did or didn't do to support Andrew 427 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: Luck is a great podcast out right now that delves 428 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: into that um. But they have not had a lot 429 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: of guys on second deals. And then the other one 430 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: I would say is New England. Think about who's nobody's 431 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: had more success during this time period than the New 432 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: England Patriots. Yet they had a lot of players didn't 433 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: get second contracts. They've they've had some misses now in 434 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: the draft. What they've been able to do is they've 435 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: been able to cover some of that up with coaching 436 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and really really good work on the pro side 437 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: in terms of bringing in free agents, buying low and 438 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: and having those guys really hit. Yeah, the two ways. 439 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: The thing about the misses with the teams that we 440 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: talked about, we're talking about Jacksonville, Chicago in New England. Uh, 441 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: there's a school thought that says, particularly when it comes 442 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: to New England, Uh, they cut bait. As soon as 443 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 1: they realized that the guy is not there, that they 444 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: cut bait. It's not going to work in regardless of 445 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: your draft status. Uh, it doesn't impact our decision making 446 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to building out our roster. We're gonna 447 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: take the best fifty three and we're not going to 448 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: worry about the pettigree coming in. But then when you 449 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: think about Chicago and Jacksonville, UM, it's an indictment in 450 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: terms of like your processes when you're not able to 451 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: keep guys around all second contracts. Now, I'm not saying 452 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: that you expect the six and seventh rounder to be 453 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: around for multiple contracts, but your first second rounder, ideally, 454 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: they need to be there long enough because they are 455 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: your nucleus, your foundational pieces to the program. And if 456 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 1: you're not able to retain those guys, particularly your first rounder, 457 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: there's a problem because that's a big swing and a miss, 458 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: and you can't miss in the first two rounds. Great teams, 459 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: great teams make sure they get it right on day one, 460 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: and they should get it right when it comes to 461 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: their second and third round pick, because if you can 462 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: get it right in those aspects, it allows you to 463 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: have a stable basis. So now in free agency, you're 464 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: going to feel maybe one void not rebuild the entire 465 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: team using free agent dollars because from economical standpoint, it's 466 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: not sensible to build your team that way. The other 467 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: thing is when we talk about talent over everything, so 468 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: not only you know, are you not signing these guys 469 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: the second contracts, nobody in the league is signing these 470 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: guys the second contracts because this isn't just limited to 471 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: you resigning your guys. This means that they're at the 472 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: very bottom of Chicago Bears only fifty three of the 473 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: players they've drafted have gone on to get a can 474 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: contract from anyone. So I mean that's that to me, 475 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: tells me you're not you're not identifying talent um. And 476 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: you can take that over to other sports as well 477 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: and say, look, at the end of the day, we 478 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: all want to be aspirational, we all want to find 479 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: the perfect person to go along with the perfect player. 480 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: But you've got to start to the funnel of the talent. 481 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: If they don't have the talent. It might be the smartest, 482 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: the best leader. You can't play, you can't play. And 483 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: if you have talent, buck, you know it, you're gonna 484 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: get second, third, and fourth chances in this league. You do, 485 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: you get an opportunity. And so DJ it starts with, okay, 486 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: can you identify guys that have the prototypical things that 487 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: you look for an NFL player? Like people get mad 488 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: at scouts doing the draft process when they talk about height, weight, speed, arm, 489 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: left hand size, all those things, Well, those things typically translate, like, 490 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: there's a reason why we study those things because over time, 491 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: those guys with the measurables are the ones that tend 492 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: to play in our league. Yes, they're always outliers that 493 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: don't necessarily fit those things, but the league typically has 494 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: a prototype every position that plays well. So if you're 495 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: missing that badly poorly, you're missing on some of those 496 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: things where you're taking chances on guys that aren't NFL 497 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: players just from a talent standpoint. The other part of it, 498 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: when it comes directly to your team, it's the talent, 499 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: but how does the talent fit within the scheme that 500 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: you're running on offense and defense? Does the talented player. Look, 501 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: is he an ideal fit for being a three technique 502 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: in a one gap up the field for three defense 503 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: or is he more of a two gapper and you 504 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: misidentified him. But even with that, the talent has to 505 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: be there because someone else will give him an opportunity 506 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: if he's in NFL prototype. And so it does speak 507 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: to somewhere along the line you are just swinging and 508 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: missing and you just don't have a good feel for 509 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: what an NFL player looks like. Another thing that this does, 510 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: it's a competitive advantage when we go back up to 511 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: that top. I mean, we've talked about on here for 512 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: years about the Baltimore Ravens owning the comp process, you know, 513 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: drafting players third fourth round, playing really well, getting huge 514 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: deals elsewhere, let them walk, get a third round comp pic, 515 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: get another talented player, and then just the cycle just 516 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: keeps going. Man, So they keep the cost down because 517 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: they have the confidence knowing they know what talent looks like. 518 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna bring in talented guys. We're not gonna resign 519 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: all of them. We're gonna resign the guys that we 520 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: feel are the key position of the core guys. The 521 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: other guys we're gonna let them walk and we're gonna 522 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: get the comp pics, you know, because of that formula, 523 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: And we're gonna just keep this thing churning because the 524 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: guys we get are gonna play in this league. Maybe 525 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: not with us, but they're gonna play in this league 526 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: for a long time. They're gonna play for a long time. 527 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: And it's not a secret. Um, all scouting departments are 528 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 1: not created equal. There's some teams that have a reputation 529 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: around the league for being great when it comes to identifying, uh, 530 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: drafting and developing their talent. And those are the teams 531 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: that you look for. And those are the same teams 532 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: that in the preseason you always have a bunch of 533 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: scouts hovering at their preseason games because they know, hey, 534 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: we're going to claim some of these players because traditionally 535 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 1: this team gets NFL products in the building. Um, I 536 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: think it's a d deeper pride and maybe it more 537 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: of an offseason look is to look at those teams 538 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: that were at the top. What is the scouting process like, 539 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: like what separates them from others? Like how do they 540 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: go about it? Are the a team that digs a 541 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: little deeper in the character stuff. Are the a team 542 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: that watches take collectively, it makes decisions? Are they there 543 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: a team that uses maybe three or four cross checks 544 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: to get enough eyes on the people? When you are 545 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: as successful as the teams that we mentioned, there's something 546 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: in the seecret sauce to being able to get it 547 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: right consistently over time. And I think we probably need 548 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: to dig a little deeper to see why do these 549 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: teams get it right consistently whereas other teams are not 550 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: able to be as consistent when it comes to selected players. 551 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: And I think that also goes into that continuity. You know, 552 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: when you have a philosophy and you stick to it, 553 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: and then guys go out there, they know what they're 554 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: looking for, they find it, they've been properly trained and developed. 555 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: I think sometimes people don't realize that. A lot of 556 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: times you change a general manager, you wipe out a 557 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: coaching a scouting staff, and you might have guys that 558 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: I've seen this, a bunch of guys that you get 559 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: along with great on the road and you think, now 560 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: this guy is a really good evaluator. Then you get 561 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: him in the building and you get through two drafts, 562 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: you know this guy has no clue what he's looking at. 563 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: And you've had Now when you're at an organization where 564 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: you've kept the same staffing, I know, you know what Buck. 565 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: Buck crushes whiteouts. But Buck's blind spot is linebackers like 566 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: DJ DJ DJ can't into your lineman give him trouble. 567 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: So we're not gonna, really we're gonna kind take his 568 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: grades there. Maybe not as important, Yes, it's that's huge. 569 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: When you know the scouts, you know who you can 570 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 1: trust on certain positions. Employers, you have to scout the scouts. 571 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: There's not a team, there's not a team in the 572 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: league that has a level scouts from top to bottom. 573 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: But the best teams are able to understand this guy 574 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: is good in disregard, this guy is good in that 575 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: regard when he gives this guy who is great on DBS, 576 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: When he gives someone a low grade that's really a 577 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: higher grade for other people. You know, when this guy 578 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: gives a big grade, we gotta bring it down because 579 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: he's an oversellerst graiter. But the only way that you 580 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: can know that about your scouts, they have to be 581 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: around for a long time. And then as the decision 582 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: maker or the guy that's over the top of the department. 583 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: You know that, and so you allow people to play 584 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: to their strengths and you're able to sort that out 585 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: without embarrassing and you just kind of know, like, I 586 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: look at all the grades, does he have the grades? 587 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: Come in? But I know these people well enough to 588 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: know what this grade really means in the bigger scheme 589 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: of things. Yeah, you might. You might be my Midwest 590 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: scout and you're gonna do the Midwest guys. But then 591 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: once we finished the fall, we get into what we 592 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: call cross check season. Boy Bucky has brought us in. 593 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: We we drafted two dbs in the sixth, seventh round, 594 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: and he crushed it. He nailed those guys, got them right. 595 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: So guess what, buck you got. You gotta watch all 596 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: the corners and the whole draft, and you're gonna be 597 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: able to find us that fourth fifth round pick because 598 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: you've already done it for us twice. Um. That's where 599 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: they advantages. That is what advantages. And and everybody kind 600 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: of has especialty. Everybody has a sweet spot that they're 601 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: really good at. They know exactly what to look at, 602 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: they have a feel for it. Uh, they have success 603 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: time and time again over Uh successive drafts identifying guys 604 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: who can make it. And it may not be drafting 605 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: for your team, but it may be someone that you 606 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: stood up on the table before that goes on. The 607 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: has to says you're like, May, you're right on that guy. 608 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: How do you know this guy was going? And so 609 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: that builds up your resume and your reputation and allows 610 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: you to kind of be a specialist within the room. 611 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: But conuity allowed allows all of that to work because 612 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: you have the same crew that grows up within the 613 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: system together. They make their mistakes, they have their successes, 614 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: but everyone grows. And then you've got the trust the 615 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: relationship where a I trust that he's going to do 616 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: a really good job looking at these kind of players. Um, 617 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: all right, we got a game tonight. We got your Jags. 618 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: You were working with the Jags. They're taking on the Raiders. 619 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna see all the stars. We've 620 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: talked a lot about the Jags, you know, with you 621 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: spend time out there. However, we haven't talked as much 622 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: about the Raiders and and our expectations for this group. 623 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: Let me just put it to you this way, Buck, 624 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: We've talked so much about what this group can be. 625 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: You know, if it all works out and we know 626 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: the star power they have, it white out and on 627 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: the defensive front, what would be you know, if you're 628 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: if you're coming into this season, if you had a 629 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: concern for the Raiders, what would it be. I think 630 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 1: the concern for them always stems on the defenses. Out 631 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: of the ball. I love the addition of Chandler Jones. 632 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: I like to you know, the thought of pairing him 633 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: with Max Crosby and how they can generate a pass 634 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: for us. I still worry about the second level of 635 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: the defense with the linebackers. Uh. This league is one 636 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: where you have to have you have to have like 637 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: a dominant playmaker at all three levels to really play 638 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: the kind of defense that you want to play. And 639 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: so I'm trying to figure out who is going to emerge. 640 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: Is that player on the second level that can hit 641 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: running chase, that can make the splash plays, that can 642 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: get the stops you know when when they need to 643 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: have them. That is where I'm looking at. And in 644 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: this division where you have great quarterbacks, you have speed 645 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: at tied in, you have playmakers all around, you still 646 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: have to have someone on the second level, that can 647 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: run from sideline to sideline, that can create chaos. Maybe 648 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: as a blitzer and coverage. I have a question mark 649 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: about the rates ability to have that guy because I 650 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: don't think they have together right now. Denzel Perriman played well, 651 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: put up huge numbers last year for them at the 652 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: second level. Now keep in mind he was in the 653 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: defense with Gus Bradley, he had played in it and 654 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: with the Chargers, so there's familiarity there. Um. But he's 655 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: a he's a he's a big time tackle collector. He's 656 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: gonna rack up big tackle numbers. The question with him 657 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: has been in coverage. Last year he was better, but 658 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: he's got to continue to play at that level. And 659 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: then I would say, give me a name, Uh, divine Diablo. 660 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: You know we're talking about him, excited about him, about 661 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: him and down. So he's got some length and some range. 662 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: I think he can he can be that guy, a 663 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: real difference maker. Um. But again, young player, emerging player 664 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: will see how he does. Uh. To me, I look 665 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: at my concerns buck still the corner position. How does 666 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: that group come together? Um? And then you go over 667 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: to the offensive side of the ball on how you 668 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: can say anything other than the offensive line. There's some 669 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: good pieces there. There's some question marks as well, particularly Um, 670 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: you look on that right side of the line and 671 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: you look at some of the defensive fronts they're gonna see, 672 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: how are they going to use leatherwood? Does he come around? 673 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: Is he better playing guards? Playing tackle like? Those are 674 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: things that you have to be determined. Yeah, they you 675 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: have to be determined, but you have to do it 676 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: and you gotta sort it out. And you know the 677 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: funny thing and talking to coaches the last couple of weeks, 678 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff would be determined nine in 679 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: preseason games where you just got to train and get 680 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: it done in joint practices. The joint practices are the 681 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: new thing right now, and people really love the joint 682 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: practices because it gives you game like intensity, game like speed, 683 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: but in the controlled environment. And for coaches who want 684 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: to see if they can get the game one with 685 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: all of their pieces, the joint practice is a much 686 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: better plan than playing in the preseason game, which is 687 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: why you see so many guys engage in those joint 688 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: practices ahead of a preseason no doubt. Um, I'm gonna 689 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: give you one name to watch tonight. Tyrann Johnson nickname 690 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: T Billy, was with the chart just for a couple 691 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: of years. He has got legit speed, guys that pop 692 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: in the preseason, guys that can run. So when you're 693 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: watching the game tonight, we'll see what Tyron Johnson does. 694 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: Keep an eye. He's number one, so he'll be easy 695 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: to find out there for the Raiders. Imagine he'll get 696 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: some run out there, So keep an eye on him. 697 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: I think you'll see him. Uh, he'll make some place 698 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: out there. And you get those guys that can run, 699 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: get out there with a bunch of twos and threes. 700 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: Watch out. I will say that if you're looking for 701 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: the number one overall, pick Trayvon Walker. I would say, 702 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: make sure you're there early. Don't get up, don't get 703 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: up and get your popcorn. Make sure all that stuff 704 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: is ready because when they kick off eight o'clock, I 705 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: think he's only gonna play maybe a series or two, 706 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: but they do want to put him out there. He's 707 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: gonna play though, right, He's gonna play a little bit. 708 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: He's gonna play a little bit, and they're number one secondary, 709 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: he's going to play a little bit as they try 710 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: and put all this together. Oh, I'm looking forward to 711 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: There's a lot of good young players I'm excited to 712 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: see on that Jags group. So check out that game tonight. Uh. 713 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: I'll be doing a little pregame and post game on 714 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: the network, and then we're gonna be out at Chargers 715 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: camp on Sunday, so we'll have we're gonna get some 716 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: great interviews there, so we'll have those for the pod 717 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,959 Speaker 1: next week. And we're off and running up. So pump Man, 718 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: we got football games, and like you said, the train 719 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,959 Speaker 1: has left the station, didn't come back to the station 720 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: for quite some time. So we made it football season 721 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: this year. We appreciate you guys hanging with us and 722 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: we'll catch you next time. Right here on, move the sticks.