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Speaker 1: Twelve of the NFL's finest quarterbacks have left the comfort

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Speaker 1: of their stadiums and luxury suites for the adventure of

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Speaker 1: a lifetime. These grid Iron heroes are used to leading

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Speaker 1: their teams on the field, but can they outplay, outlast,

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Speaker 1: and outthrow each other in the ultimate survival challenge? You

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Speaker 1: ain't everything you have in the Gobae taught you, man,

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Speaker 1: we find a way to win them.

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Speaker 2: No matter what.

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Speaker 1: The stakes are high and the competition is fierce, only

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Speaker 1: one can claim the title of the ultimate survivor. Who

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Speaker 1: will rise to the top and who will be sacked?

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Speaker 3: They wrote me off.

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Speaker 2: I ain't right back, though, that's the problem.

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Speaker 3: I'm right back.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: This is Quarterback Island.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Quarterback Island, Season two, episode three.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to R.

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Speaker 4: Randy Chavez, our former producer, for that outstanding open. One

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Speaker 4: of my favorite days of the year is when we

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Speaker 4: can get these four people do it together, especially at

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Speaker 4: this point of the season when things get a little tough,

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Speaker 4: little murky.

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Speaker 5: Yes, the people have been asking for it. Where's Quarterback Island?

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Speaker 5: When's Quarterback Island? It's today?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because that's what we're see in. Is

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Speaker 3: it truly now a quarterback driven league? Or is it

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Speaker 3: a tight end driven league or a defense driven?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Please, it's always a quarterback driven league.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Some of those guys impacting the quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: might have a saying.

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Speaker 4: The voice you hear, of course, is the man Steve Weiss,

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Speaker 4: the captain of NFL Network.

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Speaker 2: I like to think of him of all the my captain.

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Speaker 4: That's Jordan Rodrigue, co executive producer of Quarterback Island, an originator.

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Speaker 4: And Colleen Wolf.

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Speaker 2: Of course she's.

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Speaker 6: Here too, the person snutting sail with captain. I guess I'm.

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Speaker 4: Aboard in the Colleen's here too, so she'll try to

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Speaker 4: keep Jalen Hurts on at some point it'll be fun ly.

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Speaker 2: No, oh okay, So here here's the deal.

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Speaker 4: If you haven't listened to quarterbacks, Oh all right, before

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Speaker 4: we decide, who are the quarterbacks that are defining the

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Speaker 4: position this season as of yet? And we left twelve

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks on the island when we last talked, and so

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Speaker 4: I will mention who the quarterbacks on the island were

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Speaker 4: way back in week six or so when we last

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Speaker 4: did this. It's Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Jared Goff, Dak Prescott, Baker, Mayfield,

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Speaker 4: Justin Herbert, Sam Darnold, Drake May, Matthew Stafford, Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 3: How smart did we look. That's a hell of a

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Speaker 3: twelve right now.

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Speaker 4: We could have come tough, We could have come back

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Speaker 4: like a week or two ago, and yet everyone was

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Speaker 4: just playing so well. It didn't almost feel like there

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Speaker 4: was as much to talk about. The guys who were

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Speaker 4: voted on to the island, for instance, last time around,

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Speaker 4: Donald May, Stafford and Daniel Jones. You know, when we

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Speaker 4: did our half season MVP, we're talking about all those guys.

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Speaker 4: So this will be a very interesting show. And I

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Speaker 4: will start it just by announcing that not as many

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Speaker 4: people are staying on the island.

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Speaker 2: That's fair, that's fair.

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Speaker 6: I knew it shrinking the number of people of the island.

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Speaker 2: We had a new rink.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you guys were literally here a year ago

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Speaker 4: when we did it. In the exact same time period,

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Speaker 4: the island shrinks.

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Speaker 6: It does global warming exactly, the erosion.

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Speaker 3: People are leaving because they can't afford the HOA and

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Speaker 4: Shout out to the Santa Monica cliffs, you know, hanging strong,

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Speaker 4: But it's just like they're a little smaller water. Every year,

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Speaker 5: So my spiny sense was going it was this around

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Speaker 5: this time last year where Greg unilaterally decided to shrink

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Speaker 5: the island. It was the right move. This is also

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Speaker 5: the right move. But I knew it. I knew it.

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Speaker 5: You hit it so well. I kept saying, I know

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: I thought of going from twelve all the way down

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Speaker 4: it'll be it'll be down to ten and so we

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Speaker 4: today mortgage and there is there is one little extra

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Speaker 4: explain to the listeners what a rip chord is, because honestly,

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Speaker 4: I couldn't quite remember. Is it taking someone off or

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Speaker 4: putting someone on?

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Speaker 5: Yes, once again, it is called a riptide, the.

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Speaker 3: Ripcord when you jump out of an airplane with this.

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Speaker 7: I remember, everyone remembers Greg.

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Speaker 4: Eric did not collect correct me this morning when I

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Speaker 5: Okay, So what is a rip riptide is a person

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Speaker 5: can unilaterally use one riptide per season of Quarterback Island

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Speaker 5: they have to they have to they have to be.

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Speaker 7: The group would have to decide who comes on. But

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Speaker 7: washes away off the island, opens the parachute.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, like if you're skydiving into the island, you know

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Speaker 8: what a riptide is. It's when you're suddenly just vexed

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Speaker 2: To Yes, I felt that once out in Hawaii. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're not. They're no joke.

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Speaker 3: They're no joke.

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Speaker 2: Listen to those lifeguards when they see you can't remember.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk usually I talk about at the at the

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Speaker 4: very top of the show, just to you know, we've

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Speaker 4: Big four and be like, all right, these for these

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks are on the island. We don't really need to

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Speaker 4: discuss them. Does anyone disagree? And those four over time

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Speaker 4: have been Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes and Joe Burrow. Now,

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow was kicked off the island because he was

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Speaker 2: Big five, A big five, okay time around.

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Speaker 4: But I do think we can We could talk about

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Speaker 4: still Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes who are

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Speaker 4: not having their best seasons, and we can talk about that.

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Speaker 4: And then I threw on Matthew Stafford and Drake May as.

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Speaker 2: You have to take big five.

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Speaker 3: No problem with that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm good with that, especially you know, the latter

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Speaker 2: He'd be my choice right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean he's leading the NFL at passing yards

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Speaker 3: he's not too recently. Sure he drives.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is really insane.

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Speaker 4: We're eleven weeks into the season and it's pretty like

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Speaker 4: not a hot take to be like, Drake May's playing

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Speaker 4: quarterback the best of anyone in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 4: You could you could come up with other options, but

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Speaker 4: I think that's the right answer, you know, I thought

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Speaker 4: of Mahomes of these three, was the one.

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Speaker 2: I yeah, just for a second, was like, should we

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Speaker 4: Mahomes because he's coming off one of the worst two

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Speaker 4: game stretches he's had in a long time.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean he got lit up by Denver. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Denver really caused some some problems, but that was a

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Speaker 3: bad pick. You drough to McMillan there, you know, as

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Speaker 3: you were threatening. But still, for the most part when

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Speaker 3: who's going to be open on this play? His offensive

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Speaker 3: line hasn't been consistent with that said, he's still makes

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Speaker 3: most of the games look easy. He still makes playing

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Speaker 3: Goff the other day against Phildelphia was like, oh my gosh. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, but I have no problem with Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 8: But also the Bills game too that he struggled in

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Speaker 8: that one mightily his accuracy.

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Speaker 6: He didn't throw a touchdown, I don't think in that game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think that was a stinker.

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Speaker 4: Though he's a little off, Like when they're getting to

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Speaker 4: the end of these games, I'm starting to just lose

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Speaker 4: the right place to win him because they're not. Like

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Speaker 4: he doesn't have a fourth quarter comeback or a game

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Speaker 4: it to brischard Smith like fast enough. That wasn't their

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Speaker 4: he's like not trusting his receivers.

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Speaker 2: No, that said, I didn't want to get too carried away.

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Speaker 4: I think he was maybe my MVP three weeks ago,

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Speaker 8: I thought was when I was looking at him and

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Speaker 8: the lack of rhythm and consistency with this offense. The

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Speaker 8: we had Lamar Jackson on the list. We kept him

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Speaker 8: that holds true Patrick Mahomes as well.

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Speaker 6: So he's not in.

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Speaker 2: The body of work. He's the fighting. That's why I

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Speaker 6: Vote flag you're there.

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Speaker 5: If he had a better run game, I think you'd

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Speaker 5: also be. I mean, he's always existed sort of as

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Speaker 5: this singular like unicorn entity, but we are talking about how, yeah,

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Speaker 5: you really need to get him a better run game.

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Speaker 5: It is really weird. He is like fourth right now

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Speaker 5: in EPA per dropback still in the NFL, but he

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Speaker 5: like two points and is one of the only guys

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Speaker 5: So it's just really in Congress kind of weird that,

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Speaker 5: you know, he's just.

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Speaker 2: All over the place.

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Speaker 4: He had third in QBR and twentieth in PFFS grading,

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Speaker 4: and I think part of that is the running helps.

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Speaker 2: Out your your QBR.

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Speaker 4: But he's he's just missed a few throws. But let's

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Speaker 4: be real, all three of them this is the worst

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Speaker 2: He's not playing great. Josh Allen's made a lot of mistakes.

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Speaker 4: worst games in a long time. He's not running the

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Speaker 3: I think he's injury. I think he's managing whatever going

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Speaker 4: And then you know he scores okay, so that we've.

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Speaker 4: Uh that Drake May and Stafford are just no brainers.

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Speaker 3: But the crazy thing with Drake may He's been sacked

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Speaker 5: They don't want catastrophe. The other two options are you

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Speaker 4: I'm sick of hearing from everyone we're keeping in that

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Speaker 3: You might have to change a sound after after Monday night.

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Speaker 4: That is an amazing quote that you just like anything

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Speaker 4: I think it's it's too early to talk. So those

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Speaker 5: Respect them all.

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Speaker 4: Now, I'll throw it to Colleen. Why not me, let's

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Speaker 3: So wait, wait, wait, are we are we gonna trim

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Speaker 4: Well, now, basically there's five guys that are up up

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Speaker 4: guys we could potentially nominate Caleb Williams, Jordan love Bo

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Speaker 4: So I think, Kallean, why don't you throw someone out

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Speaker 4: for discussion, say whether you want to kick them off

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Speaker 8: if we're talking about how we did leave Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 6: Really well and now he came back.

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Speaker 8: It's only one game, one sample size, but the offense

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Speaker 4: Yeah, those other guys that you mentioned, like Lamar and

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Speaker 2: I will push back early in the season.

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Speaker 5: This is I had to deal with this outscoding they got.

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Speaker 3: He's what me grandfather brock In is because Cooper Rush

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm not saying good you what does that

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Speaker 4: Rock Parties played three games this year and in two

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Speaker 5: We got another. We got another vote before.

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Speaker 4: The end of the season, so I can earn all. Right, then, Colleen,

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Speaker 4: I want you to throw off all I could throw

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Speaker 6: Throw someone off the island.

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Speaker 8: Okay, you want me to just throw Jalen Hurts under

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Speaker 6: That's the kind of our quick.

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Speaker 8: And the inconsistencies that we've seen with this offense and

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Speaker 6: Games. Then the bye week.

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Speaker 8: This is something that they have been dealing with the

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Speaker 3: That's a very legit argument. If we're especially if we're

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Speaker 5: This just makes him better.

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Speaker 8: This is motivation for him to get back on the island.

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Speaker 6: Get back out there, let's get that passer rating up.

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Speaker 3: He just got too comfortable, right.

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Speaker 4: We famously left him off the island to wrap up

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: This is all a part of Colleen's playing master player.

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Speaker 4: This whole thing where he like talks about wanting to

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Speaker 4: What I'm gonna say is then and then you think

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Speaker 4: Derek Gunn, who is he gone give a little context

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Speaker 8: Derek Gunn is a legend. We work together for many

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Speaker 4: But he is an icon, kind of an insider's insider.

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Speaker 5: And of all the things that you know, have emerged

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Speaker 4: It's like it's like a much handsomer version of what

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Speaker 6: So the number one seed in the NFC, we are voting.

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Speaker 2: I'm voting, we voting know for him to be on quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, so you have a sign we're voting off

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Speaker 6: Greg, Greg did give like, yes, he's voted.

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Speaker 6: It's easy for you guys to keep him on the island.

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Speaker 6: I thought I'm reading this room wrong.

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Speaker 5: Overthought it there, colle.

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Speaker 4: We we either vote them on or not. The players

443
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 4: that that are on the island that we still will

444
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 4: be voting on today at some point are Jared Goff,

445
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott, Baker Mayfield, Justin Herbert, Sam Darnold, and Daniel Jones.

446
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 4: So those guys will all be discussed at some point,

447
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 4: and anyone else that you guys want to nominate.

448
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 2: We still have five spots to go. Do you want

449
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 2: to kick anyone off?

450
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,679
Speaker 5: Jordan want is doing a lot of heavy lifting, but

451
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 5: I feel that I must because I have been the

452
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,879
Speaker 5: number one supporter of this quarterback outside of Matthew Stafford oh,

453
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Speaker 5: this entire season, and that is Baker Mayfield.

454
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Speaker 3: Wow.

455
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 2: Wow.

456
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 6: So here's the thing.

457
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Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield was playing and I don't care how tacky

458
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 5: it is to have this discussion too early in the season,

459
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 5: but he was playing at an MVP clip and he

460
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 5: was playing some of the best quarterback of any quarterback

461
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Speaker 5: in the NFL. He was like, you know, setting up

462
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 5: businesses on the Island at this point. You know, he

463
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 5: was supposed to be there, right but the last few

464
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Speaker 5: weeks and that is the sample size that I'm looking

465
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Speaker 5: at here. Actually, since our last vote, Baker Mayfield has

466
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 5: not been rolling. And this it's in part and we're

467
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 5: not gonna either punish or reward a guy for this.

468
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 5: We've been really good about this for the entire I

469
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 5: think since Quarterback Island has existed, we've been really good

470
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 5: at not punishing a guy for like injuries elsewhere on

471
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 5: the team or whether the system is uplifting or whatever.

472
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 5: But he does have a healthy offensive line through this

473
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Speaker 5: time period, and he did not through that first portion

474
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Speaker 5: of play. And still he is not playing consistent football.

475
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 5: He has under a fifty percent success rate, so in fact,

476
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Speaker 5: he's a forty three percent success rate on passing plays.

477
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Speaker 5: He is behind all of these guys who are even

478
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Speaker 5: in consideration for the island and some guys who are

479
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 5: not in consideration for the island. In EPA per drop back,

480
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 5: and he has a ninety seven quarterback rating passer rating,

481
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Speaker 5: And so I feel like this is it's just time.

482
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 5: It's time and he can come back on. And knowing

483
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield a little bit. You know, he has a

484
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 5: chip on his shoulder. You know what he's going to

485
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 5: do is go back in. But if we're cutting it,

486
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Speaker 5: especially even if it was twelve, I probably wouldn't have

487
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 5: him on so cutting cutting it down to ten certainly,

488
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 5: I think we got to vote Baker Mayfield off quarterback.

489
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 2: I thought this was gonna be a tougher conversation.

490
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 5: I don't I don't urge my soul.

491
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, guys, in your precious Baker, I mean,

492
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 4: we got to make a new drop ball.

493
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 2: We gotta we gotta, we gotta.

494
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 6: Make it stop rolling. It's horrible.

495
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: We need to come up.

496
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 4: You need to like put her voice into it where

497
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 4: it's like Baker ball not wait.

498
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: I don't know how it would work.

499
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 8: Doesn't keep rolling ideas strong idea Greg is.

500
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 4: Not keeps on rolling baby, because like, oh, the tens

501
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 4: is really gonna.

502
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Speaker 8: He had a good game against the Patriots, and I

503
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 8: thought that things were gonna maybe start to trend back up.

504
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 6: But then against the Bills that was another tough outing.

505
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 8: Although his mobility looked better because I guess he's getting

506
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 8: a little healthier, but it's.

507
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Speaker 5: Just not consistent, and it part of it and again

508
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 5: I have to be fair and evaluate him in a vacuum,

509
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 5: and yeah, I think it does. Should go on? Should

510
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 5: not go on? Said that, Yeah, he's still dealing. You know,

511
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 5: his first his top two receivers Mike Evans, Chris Godwins

512
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 5: still haven't been there. But still some of this tape

513
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 5: when you watch of him, guys are open and he's

514
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 5: not hitting them or their's inconsistencies. I think he will

515
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 5: right the ship r maybe so to speak or maybe,

516
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 5: but I also feel like this for this portion of

517
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 5: time that we're evaluating for quarterback Island, like I would

518
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 5: vote him off.

519
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 3: I don't think he's playing terribly, but because you have

520
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 3: to shrink and see the other people. I mean that

521
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 3: to me is the criteria because he's still, to me,

522
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 3: could lead a lot of teams. He hasn't had Bucky

523
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 3: Irving around for a lot of the run game. The

524
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 3: whole offense as a hole has gotten well, a little

525
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 3: bit inconsistent, but part of it is because Baker has

526
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 3: not been great. But he'll rally.

527
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

528
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 4: I think the Patriots game is a great example because

529
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 4: there were guys like they're just throws that he's not

530
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 4: making it right.

531
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Speaker 2: You look at you. That's the eye test.

532
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 4: Then you look at the numbers which which you talked about,

533
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 4: like seventeenth and EPA thirteenth in QBR, nineteenth in PFF.

534
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 4: Just a lot of like turnover worthy plays. He could

535
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 4: come back. I could easily see Sunday Rams like, that's

536
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 4: the game where Baker starts making it happen and uh,

537
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 4: Baker makes Jordan feel a certain way whilst he's there covering.

538
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 5: I know, I'm so excited. That is the game. Baker

539
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 5: Mayfield was the hinge point that basically pulled the Rams

540
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 5: football side of their.

541
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Speaker 6: Thursday night football.

542
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 5: I hear emotional depths on the wasteland and Baker Mayfield

543
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 5: comes to town and it's like a bolt of sunshine.

544
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 3: Here's a little story about that, because they got him

545
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 3: on like a Monday, right, he on Thursday, a tes day.

546
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 6: Uh huh.

547
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 3: And remember their center, Brian Allen, He used to walk

548
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 3: around barefoot to the grounding thing angry center. So I

549
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 3: saw him before kickoff. I was like, is Baker gonna

550
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 3: be able to start? He's like he has to because

551
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 3: he's the only guy on the roster who can throw

552
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 3: a forward pass.

553
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 6: Oh my god.

554
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: And if Baker comes in and leads into the the

555
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 3: late victory over the rate, and then it's on and

556
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 3: popping from there, like the whole rebirth of Baker started

557
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: that night.

558
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 4: All right, so let's vote on Baker Mayfield. I vote no.

559
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 5: I'm sorry Baker.

560
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: Everyone holding up voting no? Big fat.

561
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 3: Now, so we're ten, Greg Rosie.

562
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: Math, we're at five.

563
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 3: That's five that are on.

564
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: And we've only kicked two offs.

565
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 4: So even even under that that math, he said, yeah, yeah,

566
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 4: I just.

567
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 5: Want to point out that Colleen and I just demonstrated

568
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 5: some emotional bravery. Just now, are guys that we yeah,

569
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 5: we petitioned to kick off the island. I just want

570
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 5: to say profiles and courage.

571
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: Wow.

572
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 6: And also that Baker was whiteous guy too.

573
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Baker Maker.

574
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 5: We're all really I think, stepping up.

575
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 6: We're owning this.

576
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 4: I'm annoyed because I wanted to be able to use

577
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 4: the rip tide on him, and it's not even it's

578
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 4: not even necessary itself.

579
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 6: Right, he took away your rip.

580
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 2: All right, Steve, you could bring up someone to this

581
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: is a island or or it's easy to cement. I

582
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: don't know.

583
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think guys on here, it's easy to cement.

584
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 2: Dude.

585
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: On here, there's some guys you know, we're not good,

586
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 3: but I think I think one is that's legitimately up

587
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 3: for conversations. Jared Goff. Okay, you know he's he had

588
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 3: the DISASTERUS game against Philadelphia, but that's what Philadelphia's doing

589
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 3: the teams right now, So we'll see if he bounces back.

590
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 3: But just kind of based on who we have left

591
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 3: on here, I think Jared might be the most vulnerable.

592
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 3: There's one more on here that I could see, but

593
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 3: they haven't been now. The offensive line has been an issue,

594
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 3: I mean as much of a dominant offensive line as

595
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 3: it used to being. Greg we were talking about Pinet

596
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 3: School for MVP. He hadn't had the best couple of

597
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 3: weeks and the rest of the offensive line has not

598
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 3: been great. But when I'm looking at potent cuts here,

599
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: and this is just a numbers game, so to speak,

600
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 3: right we're at we've got to get to the final

601
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: fifty three, so to speak, got to the final ten,

602
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 3: I would say Jared Goff. And if not Jared Goff, dak,

603
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 3: I mean can't, I just can't see.

604
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 4: Let's talk Goff now and maybe we'll table it and

605
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 4: see if anyone would would lift up to potentially pass him.

606
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 4: The case against him is, you know, you watch them

607
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 4: in a game like that and you think about his limitations,

608
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 4: you know, against pressure's there's always such a dramatic difference

609
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 4: when you look at his stats the EPA per play

610
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 4: or whatever it is, and he's top five when he's clean,

611
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 4: and he's outside the top twenty when he's pressured. You

612
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 4: want a quarterback that can can maybe survive a little

613
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 4: better the weather situate, like he's had some bad games

614
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 4: in bad weather. And then you look at just overall

615
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 4: this year, like if we're going to give him extra

616
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 4: credit for when they're winning a lot, they're they're six

617
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 4: and four right now. And his stats are a little

618
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 4: all over the place. Some are good the e paper

619
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 4: drop back, some are bad. Fifteenth in QBR, twenty first

620
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 4: in pff S grading, And that's traditionally something he does

621
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 4: pretty well. And so when I look at him, like

622
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 4: he's always been a little bit of a limited quarterback,

623
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 4: and I think partly so affected by what's around him,

624
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 4: And I think that's the case now because what's around

625
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 4: him is not as good. So I'm struggling with how

626
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 4: much to punish him for that? Right, he seems like

627
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 4: he's on the edge.

628
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 8: He that Jared Goff reminded me of the Jared Golf

629
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 8: that played the Patriots in the Super Bowl, and I

630
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 8: feel like they sort of did some of the same

631
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 8: things the Eagles did in terms of pressure.

632
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: We talked about this, Oh, you are the one who

633
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: talk about it, fans. Your run to defense that fit

634
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 3: the model that the Bears ran when they absolutely took

635
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 3: apart the Rams and then the Patriots. Bill Belichier copied it.

636
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 8: So I went back and watched and you're exactly right,

637
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 8: which was fascinating to me. But then I'm like, Okay,

638
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 8: in terms of the Island, I don't want recency bias

639
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 8: to completely affect my vote here. How he did against

640
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 8: the Eagles when you compare it to how he played

641
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 8: against Washington the week before, he was so efficient, and

642
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 8: yes that's a totally different defense and a team. But yes,

643
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 8: he's been inconsistent recently, but prior to that, he's been

644
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 8: really good and leading the most high powered offense.

645
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 4: I think I think since we last taped the episode,

646
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 4: he has not been an Island worthy type of quarterback.

647
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 4: Correct I think even in the win against the Bucks,

648
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 4: like not an amazing game, the loss to the Vite, like,

649
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 4: he's probably had the worst five or five weeks or

650
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 4: so since we've seen I kind of want to table him.

651
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 3: Let's table him, Yeah, because O line has not been great.

652
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 4: It's just not been all right, Let's let's actually get

653
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 4: more people on the island, like in terms of who's

654
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 4: staying and uh, you know you're leading with.

655
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: Who you feel the most in your guys' souls. I

656
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: will too. Uh, let's do just Herbert.

657
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 4: Does anyone have a big argument against Justin Herber zero?

658
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: No?

659
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 5: And I feel terrible for him in fact, Okay, yeah,

660
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 5: frankly I feel on his behalf.

661
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 4: Yes, I thought, because you know, I try to take

662
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 4: a little bit of emotion out and when you do,

663
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Speaker 4: look at all these numbers that I keep quoting, like

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Speaker 4: EPA for play success rate QBR PFF, his profile is okay,

665
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Speaker 4: you know, it's not great. It's outside the top ten

666
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 4: and everything except for PFF, which is a little closer

667
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 4: to what I think most people would say, are like

668
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Speaker 4: eyeball test grading every quarterback just on a play to

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Speaker 4: play basis. But man, going into last week, I thought

670
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 4: he had a pretty good at like case as the

671
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Speaker 4: best quarterback in the NFL this year. I know that

672
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Speaker 4: seems crazy. Last week was brutal, but I'm not going

673
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 4: to kill him that much for one terrible.

674
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: His team to play one. That offensive line, which is

675
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: not great right now, absolutely broke down last week and

676
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: their defense didn't play well for the first time in

677
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,959
Speaker 3: a long time. But you know, we can we can

678
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: talk all the analytics, the pffs, everything. When Justin Herbert,

679
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: when you watch that dude play all right, like that

680
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 3: is like that's a guy like we talked about playing

681
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 3: the position and he's supposed to be played he is.

682
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Speaker 3: There's there's no there's no way in hell you can't

683
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Speaker 3: consider him a top five or six QB.

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Speaker 5: Also, there's a difference between not holding someone's lack of

685
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 5: tools around them or offensive line or play color whatever.

686
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Speaker 5: There's a difference between not holding that against them for

687
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Speaker 5: or against them, and what Justin Herbert's dealing with right now.

688
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 5: Trevor Penning was at left tackle, like, what are we doing?

689
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 5: What are we doing?

690
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: He's the island there all right? Everyone? I want an

691
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: audible yes.

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Speaker 8: Yes, he plu you're in the emergency exit row.

693
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Speaker 6: I need a verbal yes for one.

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Speaker 5: Start filling it.

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Speaker 4: And shout out to Justin Herbert's brother, Ben, is it

696
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Speaker 4: did not know you were in the NFL on the

697
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 4: Jaguars practice squad.

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Speaker 2: Must it's Patrick Patrick Herbert?

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00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, Ben, Ben Herbert's the Chargers strength coach.

700
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Speaker 4: Okay, who knew. Let's take a break. We are going

701
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Speaker 4: to decide who the final four quarterbacks are on Quarterback Island.

702
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Speaker 2: Maybe introduce some we're not there before. Back on Quarterback Island.

703
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 4: We're keeping this show nice and concentrated. The TNF preview

704
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 4: by the way, we're putting that into the preview. We

705
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Speaker 4: just want an all quarterback Island.

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Speaker 6: This is a tightly run ship.

707
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: We do have some the Captain News and it is.

708
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Speaker 4: It's actually time for our News of the Day, presented

709
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Speaker 4: by Olive Gardens, never ending soup or salad in breakfast.

710
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 4: We want the SuperFect. It's on us with every entre

711
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 4: and the breaking news here. It's actually part of Quarterback Island.

712
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield and Jalen Hurts have been kicked off Quarterback Island.

713
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 4: And what people don't realize is Quarterback Island.

714
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Speaker 2: For the most part, it's pretty sparse. It's pretty spare.

715
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 4: The guys are just hanging out, but there actually is

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Speaker 4: an olive garden there.

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Speaker 6: Hello, oh god, they can get all the soup they

718
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 6: want on breadsticks.

719
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Speaker 4: So like baker and hurts like no more never ending

720
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Speaker 4: soup and or salad and bread sticks for you.

721
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 5: I met Matthew Stafford just loves a nice broth, you know,

722
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Speaker 5: like a bone broth.

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Speaker 6: Like really, he.

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Speaker 3: Looks like we're an Italian wedding guy nourishing. Oh yeah,

725
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Speaker 3: you think good stuff there.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited that we're able to like introduce some more

727
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 4: food to the guys. I'm still we're getting hungry. I'm

728
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 4: starving to which means keep going. I'm just gonna throw

729
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 4: out a name that I don't think has a good

730
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 4: chance to make the island, but I just wanted to

731
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Speaker 4: bring him up, and that's Caleb Williams.

732
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Speaker 2: I was thinking that I'm not making the case for him.

733
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Speaker 4: I'm just pointing out that com he's gotten into the

734
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 4: quarterback island conversation with I think the ability to make

735
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 4: plays on his own and not make mistakes, that's like

736
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Speaker 4: a that's an intoxicating combination for a quarterback. He's not

737
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 4: doing everything at the highest of levels, I think maybe

738
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Speaker 4: to get over and get onto the island. But the

739
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 4: combination of wow plays and a real lack of negative

740
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 4: plays is a great foundation for him to build off.

741
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I mentioned this a couple weeks ago, but

742
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 5: I think that also Ben Johnson's doing a better job

743
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 5: of unclenching a little bit in terms of there are

744
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 5: times when it is so beneficial to turn on like

745
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 5: the superhero type of plays and the out of structure plays,

746
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 5: but there's also the when they aren't sort of turning

747
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 5: that valve. You can tell Caleb Williams has improved in

748
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 5: a lot of different areas. He's playing calmer in those plays.

749
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 5: He's seeing the middle of the field, especially a lot

750
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Speaker 5: better in my opinion, And that's all of those things

751
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 5: are crucial to what Ben Johnson wants to do on

752
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 5: offense and now also him as a play caller, finding

753
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 5: that balance of when to like kind of be a

754
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 5: little freer with it. I think those things just come

755
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 5: with time, and you're starting to see that come together

756
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 5: a little bit.

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00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think too.

758
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 8: The if you just go back and look at his

759
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 8: recent performances, obviously Week eight against the Ravens. He had

760
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 8: that interception, but against the Bengals he had three touchdowns.

761
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 8: He also caught a touchdown himself, so that was historic.

762
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Speaker 5: He's the only quarterback on Quarterback Island in the conversations

763
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Speaker 5: Quarterback Island who I think has done that.

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Speaker 6: We have to look that up.

765
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Speaker 5: But it's like, gotta be worth It's gotta be worth

766
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Speaker 5: a raft, I think, so gotta be worth a floaty

767
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Speaker 5: at least.

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Speaker 8: But I also look at the game winning drive against

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Speaker 8: the Giants as being a step of growth, and I

770
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Speaker 8: think that we can see measurable growth from him and

771
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 8: development every single week, and it feels like he right

772
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Speaker 8: now is a totally different corea. Then the quarterback we

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Speaker 8: stall start the season with Ben Johnson totally agree.

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Speaker 4: So I am I'm going to vote no on Caleb Williams.

775
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 4: You know, I brought it up by just that's a good.

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Speaker 3: It's a good, it's a it's a real good conversation.

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Speaker 6: Like pack a bag, Cale, you might use it.

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00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 4: This is kind of a pat on the back, Caleb,

779
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 4: that Quarterback Island. We're scouting you. Yeah, you know, yes,

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Speaker 4: I might have a spot at the at the Olive Garden.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm voting no, but I hereby award him

782
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 5: a touchdown float.

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Speaker 6: That's great.

784
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Speaker 3: We go all right, Steve, why don't you conversation piece. Okay,

785
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 3: conversation piece my guy bo Nicks. Okay, we can sit

786
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 3: there and talk about, Oh, he's not this, he's not that.

787
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: Fourth quarter. Who do you want running your team?

788
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Speaker 5: Sean Payton, Patrick Mahon.

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton's running the other three two justin saying Bowennick

790
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: is doing it. By the way, Boennicks caught a touchdown

791
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 3: pass last season. But I mean, you look at this,

792
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: he's he's one of He's a tough guy to evaluate

793
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 3: because he played he's out of structure, which has got

794
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 3: to be driving Sean Payton absolutely nuts. But that's where

795
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 3: I think he's the most dangerous. When he can run

796
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: on the movie, he puts a defender in conflict, and

797
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: for whatever reason late in games he is on target

798
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 3: with the ball. I don't know if he's an Island

799
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 3: guy when I see who's on here, but man, the

800
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 3: ways they're playing overall, the way that he hangs in

801
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 3: there and plays. Now that R. J. Harvey has become

802
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 3: kind of that dual threat running back, I think that's

803
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,479
Speaker 3: going to open up the offense a little bit more.

804
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Speaker 3: I mean, I just want to put bo Nicks in

805
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 3: this conversation tenth leading passer.

806
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: Maybe.

807
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 4: Well, here's the case for Bonicks. He is helping to

808
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 4: define this season. He is one of the center pieces

809
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 4: and that is one of the late game rally.

810
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 8: You can't see the story of the twenty twenty five

811
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 8: NFL season without Bonett.

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Speaker 4: I do think that he has at least worth talking

813
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 4: about because of that. He's coming off his best game,

814
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 4: so I don't want it to be recency buys.

815
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Speaker 2: But he played well that whole game.

816
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 4: He outplayed Patrick Mahomes in that game and has had

817
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 4: a lot of success against the Chiefs. He's in a

818
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 4: better situation obviously. I think his inconsistencies over the course

819
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 4: of the season makes it tough. But I'm willing to

820
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 4: table him for now and not even.

821
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: Say assistance he's are in the passing game. I guess

822
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: what he does on the move, just change things a

823
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: little bit.

824
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Speaker 2: I know he had some dimes in that game. He

825
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: played really well overall.

826
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 4: I know Eric is probably going crazy because we didn't

827
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 4: follow the path this week and we haven't totally cemented

828
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 4: too many people on. So I think that's why I

829
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 4: want to That's why I want to table it for now.

830
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Speaker 2: What do you guys think?

831
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 6: What do we think about Eric's expression? Right now?

832
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 3: We have to clear a space too. If we're gonna

833
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 3: put somebody on, we have to clear a spright.

834
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 4: Well, we have to decide who is definitely on. Why

835
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 4: don't you, Jordan nominate someone you definitely want on the island.

836
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 6: I don't think we should table, guys anymore. I think

837
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 6: that we could decide, okay, process, I.

838
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 5: Still want Sam Darnold on the island.

839
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 3: He's on.

840
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, one one game we're all in agreement.

841
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 5: Against like the demon in his closet, which which is

842
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 5: the Los Angeles Rams pass rush does not a quarterback

843
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 5: island remove, Like, I really think that agree without this.

844
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 5: I know it's with Sam Donald. The thing that we

845
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 5: always get sucked into with him, and it's unfortunate for

846
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 5: him because it's coming at the hands of the Rams

847
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 5: every time. Is this recency bias of like, oh, his

848
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 5: last game affects the conversation about Sam Donald. We're not

849
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 5: going to let that happen this time. He is the

850
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 5: architect of the league's most explosive passing offense. So I

851
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 5: definitely want him on the island.

852
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 2: I will vote yes, yeah, Sam Donald.

853
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 4: I just wanted to punish him slightly by not putting

854
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 4: him in that top five, but you're right, he's probably

855
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 4: number ye.

856
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: Yes, and he wanted to well because look I gave him.

857
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 4: He was our official and no one can ever take

858
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 4: this away from him, our official NFL Daily half seat

859
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 4: mid season MVP this year. Now, since those two games,

860
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 4: he's thrown five picks and fumbled the ball twice, so

861
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 4: he needs to it. I know he played well enough

862
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 4: against against Are.

863
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 5: One of them came in in excuse me, four of

864
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 5: those picks in one game. I'm gonna go ahead and

865
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 5: call that an outlier.

866
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 8: He's getting a warning from the landlord on the island,

867
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 8: is what we're saying.

868
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: Yes, And here's the thing, the stuff he's doing, he's

869
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 3: got the fewest attempts of like like significantly by anybody

870
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: who's on the island, even in consideration, so he's dealing.

871
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 4: All right, congratulations to say, yeah, he's on, Colleen, anyone

872
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 4: else you want to nominate to either discuss or just

873
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 4: say is definitely on. However you want to frame it, why.

874
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 6: Don't we discuss a little I'm looking through my people here.

875
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 6: Let's discuss Daniel Jones. We have just brought him up yet,

876
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 6: and yeah, he's been a little inconsistent obviously.

877
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 8: In Germany he was sacked an unbelievable amount of times,

878
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 8: but he performed better than he did against Pittsburgh. The

879
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 8: game against Pittsburgh for Daniel Jones was absolutely brutal.

880
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: They warmed him up, turn the.

881
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 8: Ball over five times, three interceptions, two lost fumbles, he

882
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 8: got sacked ton.

883
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 6: He had a little bit of a step forward in Germany.

884
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 8: He performed a little better, but he still turned the

885
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 8: ball over and was sacked a ton. The offensive line

886
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 8: really struggled in this game. But prior to that, if

887
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 8: you look at weeks seven and eight, he was super

888
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 8: efficient and the you know, the ball security.

889
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 6: Too, was there.

890
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 8: He had two of his best games of the season.

891
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 8: He had really impressive passer ratings. Sure it was against

892
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 8: the Titans one of those games. And the Chargers, man.

893
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 3: That's a competitive football team as bad as they are, man, right,

894
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 3: They're not the Raiders.

895
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 6: They're chaos causers.

896
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 8: Right, So Daniel Jones, you know how I feel about DJ.

897
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 8: He's kind of the same way I feel about Sam Darnold.

898
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 8: For me, he stays on the island, but he's also

899
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 8: getting a warning from the landlord.

900
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:54,479
Speaker 4: I think he's he's a trickier case because those two

901
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 4: games were pretty brutal, you know, Darnold, I mentioned it's

902
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 4: five interceptions, two fumbles for the two games. For Daniel Jones,

903
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 4: it's four interceptions and six football and twelve sacks.

904
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: At least one of.

905
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 4: Those was a center snap exchange, which is really not

906
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 4: as well. But that's a lot and even over the

907
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 4: course of the season. Now, his rate stats are incredible.

908
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 4: They make a strong case to like be on the island. PFF,

909
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 4: for instance, has him eighteenth, and that's on the more

910
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 4: play to play kind of a little bit more of

911
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 4: an eyeball test, so to me, eyeball test, I'm not sure.

912
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 4: It's a tough conversation between him and GOFF and Jared

913
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 4: Love who Jordan Love who we have not gotten to.

914
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 6: For me, what we do is put Jonathan Taylor on

915
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 6: the island, right.

916
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 5: I do also want to point out that even when

917
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 5: he's not blitzed, he's turning the ball over frequently. Again

918
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 5: without a blitz this season, six of his interceptions. So

919
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 5: it's like, okay, if you're rushing four and this cloudier

920
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 5: in the back, you want to a quarterback has to

921
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 5: make those pinpoint throws and do you know all that.

922
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 5: I think he's been incredib but these last two games

923
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 5: have really really hurt him if we're looking at that

924
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 5: sample size.

925
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean again, I look at they have

926
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 3: they hurt him enough to get him off the island.

927
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: I don't when I'm looking at this, I don't see.

928
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 6: It not clear. And part of it evidence and.

929
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: Part of it, I mean the fumbles I hate because

930
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 3: that is something that is just with him. He's going

931
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 3: to put the ball on the ground and that's something.

932
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 5: But and against pressure, you know, six only completely sixty

933
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 5: percent of his passes when any pressure at all is

934
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 5: coming toward him.

935
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's that's not bad. That's yeah, it's

936
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 3: not like it's not bad.

937
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 5: But it's like you factor in the interceptions along with that.

938
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: Sure, you know, but but there's this and this this

939
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 3: has to be one of my factors into quarterback criteria.

940
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 3: And it's an old saying. If a quarterback is willing

941
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: to jump in the pile for a fumble, that's a

942
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 3: leader you want to have. And Daniel Jones has shown

943
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: that take of the image of the bloody mouth looks

944
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 3: like he had.

945
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 5: Ah, he's a fantastic leader. Right.

946
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 3: So I again, I think with all of that, the

947
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 3: fact that they're winning despite some of the other things

948
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: they going on, and just we can talk about his

949
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 3: inaccuracies here and there, but when he's on, man, I

950
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 3: mean he's sick.

951
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 4: It's tricky for like what the exercises is really because

952
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 4: he's still like eighth and epa per play, he's second

953
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 4: in success.

954
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 5: Rate and he's defining this year.

955
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: He is helping to define.

956
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, can we table him because I kind of want

957
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 4: to have the conversation of who are the finding we're.

958
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 2: Tabling one more guy.

959
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 4: So if we all agree, let's see where we are

960
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 4: with Dak Prescott. Is there a big case against Prescott?

961
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: Quick?

962
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 6: Okay, yes, no issue?

963
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 4: Great, we can speed it up there, Okay, deak Son, great,

964
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 4: good job by Dak. By the way, you know, he's

965
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 4: going to be a big part of the rest of

966
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 4: the season. Speaking of le Christmas and skimming and Sunday

967
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 4: nights and.

968
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 5: Just listen to have a team through the tragedy that

969
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 5: they've just gone through. To be a captain and a

970
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 5: leader for a team going through a loss like that,

971
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 5: and it's it's unfathomable really, And you could really tell

972
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 5: him and Solomon Thomas and Bradshott Homer together how they

973
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 5: had that group just well.

974
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 3: Dak and Sally went through it with family members of

975
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: their own.

976
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 8: You could tell after when he was talking to SVP

977
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 8: on the postgame show that like he was, he was

978
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 8: so emotional about it. But he's just so emotionally intelligent.

979
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 8: He's an intelligent quarterback in general, but that's a different

980
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 8: measurement and he was really speaking from the heart.

981
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 4: Always so impressed when Dak Prescott speaks, and I have

982
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 4: noticed the change life changes happened to you, and you

983
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 4: change as a as a person. And since his brother

984
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 4: committed suicide and he spoke about that many times, he

985
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 4: always he always just attacks his job with the right perspective.

986
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 4: And by the way how he's attacking it on the

987
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 4: field is just a beauty to me.

988
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 2: He is the closest thing we have to like Peyton

989
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: Manning and.

990
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the way he deals with dynamic of the

991
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 3: owner yep, oh, he manages being the owner just even

992
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 3: realized he's realized he's being managed.

993
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 5: That's how well Deck manages the owners.

994
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: Let's let's talk Jordan Love, because here's how I want to.

995
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 6: Frame I'm excited.

996
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 4: Okay, we have eight eight guys are definitely on the isisle.

997
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 4: We've already voted them on, which means in theory, there's

998
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 4: two spots available that Jared Goff and Daniel Jones. Daniel

999
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 4: Jones are are holding tenuously.

1000
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: Hmm.

1001
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 4: I think love for me and then bo Nick's we

1002
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 4: also talked about, are threatening to maybe take those two spots.

1003
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 4: And so I think that's how I wanted everyone to

1004
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 4: think about it. It's those four guys now for two spots,

1005
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 4: and Jordan you you wanted to talk, Jordan Love, So

1006
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 4: what do you what do you got to say?

1007
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I feel like we all know and see

1008
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 5: the lows are whooo, buddy, they are crazy some of

1009
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 5: the some of the lows and some of the misthrows.

1010
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 5: He's been hurt by drops, I would say yes, more

1011
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 5: than one occasion. And the highs. There is no quarterback

1012
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 5: who can throw the ball like him. On the little

1013
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 5: fadeaway shot sixty yards down the field, there is no

1014
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 5: quarterback who can be this young era of gunslinger like him.

1015
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 5: We already pulled a young gunslinger in Baker Mayfield off

1016
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 5: the Island. I want Love on representing the young Gunslinger

1017
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 5: era in the NFL. He gives no f's. I mean

1018
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 5: he does, he cares quite a bit, but like he

1019
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 5: will take these risks and make these plays and I

1020
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 5: think at times doing it despite the fact that he's

1021
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 5: got a great play caller, but one who just really

1022
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 5: wants to run the ball, probably a little too much sometimes.

1023
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 5: And Jordan Love when he is on, you have this

1024
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 5: feeling like anything is possible, any throw is possible. And

1025
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 5: you notice, I'm not even saying stats because his stats

1026
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,479
Speaker 5: are crazy, because we've seen some truly atrocious playing times

1027
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 5: from him this year and he's still among the leaders

1028
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 5: in the league and EPA per dropback because of how

1029
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 5: productive the highs are. I think he belongs on the Island.

1030
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 5: I think he is one of the players that define

1031
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 5: especially through this difficult middle part of the season and

1032
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 5: the Packers having to figure out how to win these

1033
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 5: games that they are way too close in and way

1034
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 5: too consistent, and he is a part of that as well.

1035
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 5: The inconsistency. But he is defining a part of this

1036
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 5: season where it is either they are going to be

1037
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 5: a Super Bowl true Super Bowl contending team or not.

1038
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 5: And he is a quarterback who, at the highest of highs,

1039
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 5: can be that guy. Yeah, the highest of highs.

1040
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 8: You look at his performance against the Steelers and he

1041
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 8: got NFC Offensive Player of the Week.

1042
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 6: Those are the high moments.

1043
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 8: But I just thought against the Giants, even though it

1044
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 8: wasn't a pretty game and he was playing through the

1045
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 8: shoulder injury and he had all of the drop passes,

1046
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 8: his leadership and his poise in that game for them

1047
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 8: to grind it out just speaks volumes of his intangibles

1048
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 8: too that he's bringing to the table.

1049
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 6: So I would consider having him on the side.

1050
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 5: I want him on.

1051
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 3: It's what I don't love him, That's the thing. When

1052
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 3: I watch him. I love I love his leadership, I

1053
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: love his toughness. But there's just something and this is

1054
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 3: an eye testing, there's just something about his game where

1055
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 3: I just don't know if he is you know he's there.

1056
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 3: It's almost like how you were talking about with Daniel Jones,

1057
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 3: like I just don't know if the game had to

1058
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 3: come down to him. And part of that is with

1059
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 3: Tucker Craft out of the lineup, they seem to have

1060
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 3: lost their daddy, Like what do we do they do?

1061
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 3: Like what are we doing off that? Like why do

1062
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 3: we figure this out? Where do we go? And that's

1063
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 3: where someone like a Josh Allen, Someone's like, don't worry,

1064
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 3: we got this. And I don't know if I've seen

1065
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 3: that out of him now is that enough to pull

1066
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 3: off a Jared Goff and say yeah, Because Jared Goff

1067
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 3: has shown some of those same tendencies as well. But

1068
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 3: I don't know. Jordan Love is one of these guys.

1069
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 3: I love his talent so much and his toughness and everything,

1070
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: but it's just a weird evalue way she for me,

1071
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 3: just taking the numbers out of everything.

1072
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 4: I think, you know, people use game manager as a pejorative,

1073
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 4: but Lamar Jackson's one of the best game managers, like

1074
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 4: in the NFL, like great quarterbacks know when to do

1075
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 4: certain things. I do think it's a fair criticism or

1076
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 4: at least place for development that Jordan Love like that's

1077
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 4: not his strength yet. The last four weeks I think

1078
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 4: are a good example of like that.

1079
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 5: I don't think it's his play callers strength either.

1080
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 2: Right, well, and that's it's all. It's all tied together.

1081
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 4: Like after that Pittsburgh game, I'm thinking, man, how did

1082
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 4: we not have Jordan Love on the island. Then the

1083
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 4: next two games, it's the Panthers and those Eagles games,

1084
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 4: And Jordan Love wasn't terrible in the Panthers game, but

1085
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 4: he left you want in a couple game management situations,

1086
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 4: and the Eagles game was rough and you're like, Okay,

1087
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 4: that's why Jordan Love's not on. And then the Giants

1088
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 4: game was one of the best quarterback games I thought

1089
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 4: of the entire season. Despite his stats, he was incredible.

1090
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 4: So let's actually put a pin in it. We're going

1091
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 4: to take one final break and on the other side

1092
00:51:54,520 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 4: we will vote on all four quarterbacks who our colleagues like.

1093
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 3: No more table and Greg dropped two.

1094
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 6: On trying to streamline. Fine, we need a.

1095
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: Break back for the final segment.

1096
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 4: Hold up, real quick, quarterback, Hold up, hold on, Daddy's here,

1097
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 4: by the way, Daddy's not gone anywhere.

1098
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 3: No, Colleen, Joe, will you explain it to me every

1099
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 3: time you come back from break. I don't know, it's

1100
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 3: a nervous tick whatever. But Greg is with.

1101
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 5: This, and he's almost hitting you.

1102
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: I'm why arm swinger next to Greg.

1103
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 6: You gotta have your head on.

1104
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 2: We've got a nervous tickets and excited.

1105
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 3: There we go.

1106
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 6: All right, he's like fanning, I would like this.

1107
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 4: I now, when I watch the Packers all season, I'm

1108
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 4: just gonna think Daddy's gone whenever they show Tucker Craft

1109
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 4: on the side.

1110
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 2: Okay, we left off talking.

1111
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 5: Emotional dependence on Tuckers me and my dog.

1112
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 4: We off talking about I guess one of Tuckercraft's sons,

1113
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 4: Jordan Love and I think it's time to bring up

1114
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 4: a vote.

1115
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 2: And we'll do it one by one. Steve Weisch your

1116
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 2: your vote.

1117
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 3: I voted, you know, I just I'm seeing that some

1118
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 3: of the other quarterbacks who have been on the island,

1119
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 3: and I don't know if I could put him on

1120
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 3: over them.

1121
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 4: I am going to vote yes. Jordan made a convincing case,

1122
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 4: I thought, and it's a trap somehow, it's a feel

1123
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 4: and it's a statistical case combined. And it's also, let's

1124
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 4: be honest, we have a certain amount that we got

1125
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 4: to fill. I think he deserves it more than Jared

1126
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 4: Goff personally.

1127
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: So I'm voting yes.

1128
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 5: Yes, I fully admit, as I mentioned in my argument

1129
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 5: of some of the inconsistencies that we've seen, But Jordan

1130
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 5: Love belongs on Quarterback Island. It's about time also, and

1131
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 5: I think that you know, throw for throw. He is

1132
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 5: playing more unbelievably than some of the other quarterbacks that

1133
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 5: we're talking about.

1134
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 6: Throw for throw.

1135
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 2: All right, Colleen, Okay.

1136
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 6: If I'm looking at the fact that we have two

1137
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 6: spots left.

1138
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 2: And four courts, you got to pick youre two that

1139
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: you wanta.

1140
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 8: Off Jones, Love Nicks out of those four, Love goes on.

1141
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 2: Yes, she had on.

1142
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 9: Oh my god, we need to have slow mo replay

1143
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 9: of that new sponsor replay of that one.

1144
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 4: We need to have like extra cameras in here so

1145
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 4: people can watch it live. And anyone that was on

1146
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 4: the ISO Colleen cam was seeing the no she was holding.

1147
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 8: I was like, well, because then I looked at list

1148
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 8: and the spots and wow, that was a brotou.

1149
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 2: You could also look at it as all of your pros.

1150
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, now we're talk good.

1151
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 2: Okay?

1152
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 4: And that was Quarterback Island, episode three season is your

1153
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 4: boy bo getting Now? I feel bad because if we

1154
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 4: vote no on bo Nix, which I'm going to It

1155
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 4: almost feels disrespectful to Steve because he didn't want No.

1156
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 3: There's more of a season, There's more seasons, there's more

1157
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 3: of a season left.

1158
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just.

1159
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 4: Don't think he's played quarterback well, like, I know, the

1160
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 4: fourth quarter matters more, but ultimately, every play I want

1161
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 4: to be evaluated, and for the eleven weeks of this

1162
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 4: season he falls.

1163
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: It's fair, it's fair, but he's like the fact that

1164
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: he's even being talked about that's a win. I'm voting no.

1165
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 3: I'll vote now, I'll voute now.

1166
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, I'm voting no on Bow because I want

1167
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 5: someone else on more.

1168
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 3: There's more season.

1169
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, I'm saying no on bow. Do you not

1170
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 6: want my vote?

1171
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 2: Greg? We had three. It's just kind of well, you

1172
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 2: know what, that's a bro No.

1173
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 4: No, it's just like all of us who you know

1174
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 4: sent the mail ins for Prop fifty, but they put

1175
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 4: it out you know, you sent it on Tuesday.

1176
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, I guess it.

1177
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 4: You know, it's going to take a while for them

1178
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 4: to even like count that broke, but counts in the end.

1179
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 4: Last two it's it's a war and it's gonna be

1180
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 4: either Daniel Jones or Jared Goff getting kicked off quarterback Island.

1181
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 4: I think you have the most emotionally at stake here, Colleen,

1182
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 4: So I'll let you talk about. Why don't you basically

1183
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 4: talk about the quarterback between these two you want?

1184
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 2: And then and then vote.

1185
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 6: Yes Jones.

1186
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 8: Between these two yes, because I need a tiebreaker, so

1187
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 8: to speak. I will go with the larger body of work,

1188
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 8: and I will go with Jared Golf.

1189
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 3: Say to stay on.

1190
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 9: Okay, ah, like god, it's like a little more as

1191
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 9: a DJ guy. I think about this year and I

1192
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 9: and I come back to that.

1193
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 4: I hear what you're saying in terms of tiebreaker like

1194
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 4: body of work, but my body work is twenty twenty five.

1195
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,919
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones is defining the position in twenty twenty five.

1196
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 6: You guys are the ones who got me off. Daniel Jones.

1197
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 6: All this turnover and fumble and interception.

1198
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 4: Talk, well, we were just were tabling him. I truly

1199
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 4: didn't know how it was going to work out. So

1200
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 4: he felt like someone that was right on the edge,

1201
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 4: which we found out he is. But now it's come

1202
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 4: down and there's two men, and I know who I prefer.

1203
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 4: I vote yes on Danny Dimes. It's not a prediction

1204
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 4: for the future, it's who's been doing it so far,

1205
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 4: and the highs I think have been higher than Jared.

1206
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 3: That explanation was all over the place by.

1207
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, all of mine.

1208
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 5: Are are we voting on? Who are we voting?

1209
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: Are we voting?

1210
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 3: Who are we what? Are we voting?

1211
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 2: No on Daniel Jones? So I just decided I'm voting

1212
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: yes on Daniel Jones.

1213
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 3: Okay? So are we voting on Daniel Jones? Golf?

1214
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: Okay on Daniel Jones.

1215
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 6: Okay, Daniel Jones.

1216
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 8: It's because Jared Golf stays on though I'm saying no, I'm.

1217
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 3: Voted yes for Daniel Jones stay on the island. I mean,

1218
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 3: besides the fifteen passing touchdowns, which was his great season

1219
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 3: with the Giants, he's got five rushing touchdowns, third leading

1220
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 3: pastor in the NFL.

1221
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 4: You know how I feel, Which means the deciding vote

1222
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 4: comes down to Jordan rod Rigg. Now if she if

1223
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 4: she voted no on Daniel Jones, that would be two

1224
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 4: to two, and we'd talk about golf and see if

1225
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 4: he could get you know, a clearer choice.

1226
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: But you know what you're doing. Jordan's I do. You

1227
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 2: are deciding who is the tenth.

1228
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 4: And send it to Turmoilmer, are you saying yes on

1229
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones or no on Daniel Jones.

1230
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 8: You just shuffled her cards around and then peaked to

1231
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 8: see what.

1232
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 5: Was Pass me a bottle, mister Jones, Sanny Dimes, I do,

1233
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 5: and it is it is because of this. Yes, the

1234
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 5: fumbles are a problem, Yes to turnover problem they are

1235
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 5: with Jared Goff. To the fumbles could be a problem

1236
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 5: with Jared Goff. The pressure can be a problem with

1237
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 5: Jared Goff. Daniel Jones is helping to define the quarterback

1238
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 5: position right now. And yes on data, maybe this was

1239
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 5: all reverse psychology.

1240
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 3: Of us.

1241
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 5: All of us have a ripcord riptide who still available?

1242
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 4: You could take someone off if you really felt like

1243
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 4: it was necessary. I do love that it's set up

1244
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,919
Speaker 4: that the number one thing we learned was you can't

1245
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 4: trust Colleen in a foxhole here because she.

1246
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 2: Turns her back.

1247
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 8: But my eyes okay, and nobody put up a fight

1248
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 8: with that. Vote for Jalen hurts, So don't come at

1249
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 8: me with that. Greg Oh, Drake May is doing so great.

1250
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 8: We can't have Drake May in our lives.

1251
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 5: Do you notice how he gets a little flush to

1252
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 5: his face when he talks about Drake May. I've guessed this.

1253
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,439
Speaker 5: He gets a twinkle in his twinkle in his eyes.

1254
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 4: It's been a great time on the island, a great

1255
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 4: time with the four of you, and I've actually secured invites.

1256
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 4: We can't stay there because it's only quarterback, but we

1257
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 4: can just like go and alive garden.

1258
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 8: I want James Wisdom to be like the ambassador of

1259
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 8: the like the offseason, so he's like the cruise director

1260
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 8: of Quarterback Island.

1261
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 5: Don't forget Caleb Williams out there on a touchdown floor.

1262
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 2: He is and uh yes, Nicks has got QB Islands.

1263
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 2: So that's it.

1264
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 4: We will have one more quarterback guy, would you for

1265
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 4: the listener? Season going to that final Quarterback Island is

1266
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 4: going to be after week seventeen. It's already been put

1267
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 4: on the calendar that following Tuesday, before the final regular

1268
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 4: season week, but without any further ado. The ten men

1269
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 4: who are comprising Quarterback Island after episode three, season two

1270
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 4: Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Dak Prescott, Justin Herbert, Sam Darnold,

1271
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 4: Drake May, Matthew Stafford, Lamar Jackson, Danny Dimes and welcoming

1272
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 4: only one new member to the island. Congratulations to Jordan,

1273
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,919
Speaker 4: Congratulations you did it. Now you just gotta go win

1274
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 4: a very difficult division. It was a pleasure as always,

1275
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 4: always okay, good, no hard feelings on the back stabbing things.

1276
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 3: Get him to save it. Just get him. Next time

1277
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 3: you see, we.

1278
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 2: Will be back on Wednesday.

1279
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 4: We have our big preview show and yeah you might

1280
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,959
Speaker 4: have noticed no t n F preview in this show,

1281
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 4: so we'll handle that on the Wednesday show myself and

1282
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 4: Jordan and Patrick back

1283
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 2: In a few and back in a month on Quarterback Island.