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Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark has been dominating the news of late, but
Speaker 1: just really and I think before we even get into
Speaker 1: this Caitlyn Clark and Angel and and everything that's going
Speaker 1: on the W, I just think overall, it's a good
Speaker 1: look for women's basketball.
Speaker 2: Jack. I think it's a good look overall.
Speaker 1: I think the one thing that people have to understand
Speaker 1: that people who have been longtime fans, what is the
Speaker 1: twenty seven years of the league, like to understand the
Speaker 1: homage in the path and those who paved the way.
Speaker 1: I think people who appreciate the game due this Kaitlyn
Speaker 1: Clark and Angel recing kind of reminds me and go
Speaker 1: with me a little bit of the Magic Johnson Larry Bird,
Speaker 1: Black Star or white Star. If you remember, you know
Speaker 1: they say Magic and Bird saved basketball. That was a
Speaker 1: thirty fourth year of the NBA. You know, with all
Speaker 1: the greatness has happened in the prior twenty seven years
Speaker 1: in the WNBA. You know, some people are saying Kaitlyn
Speaker 1: Clark and Reese are kind of a new iteration of that.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the twenty eighth year for the WNBA,
Speaker 1: and again, although they've had a lot of greatness to
Speaker 1: come before, these ladies, these ladies are bringing the eyeball
Speaker 1: and the attention that they're going to make this game
Speaker 1: go to the next level.
Speaker 2: Well, you're in a noose with the Larry Bird Magic comparison.
Speaker 3: I think they're dealing with a lot of stuff that
Speaker 3: Magic and Larry deal with. Like people made Larry and
Speaker 3: Magic it seemed like it was racial between them, but
Speaker 3: it wasn't Larry and Magic.
Speaker 2: They loved each other, but.
Speaker 3: Everybody on the outside with their own side, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, They had to pick a side, and
Speaker 3: they made it racial. And I think both of the
Speaker 3: both of these young ladies are dealing with the same thing.
Speaker 3: It's always been great basketball, but it was never basketball
Speaker 3: on the eyes on basketball like it was in college
Speaker 3: for these two young ladies, and its transferring to the
Speaker 3: w bas So both of these young ladies have everything
Speaker 3: to do with it being the light being on basketball now.
Speaker 3: But I will it was a talented rookie class overall,
Speaker 3: but those two are there, right, yeah, exactly right right.
Speaker 3: And this is why I love that it's a lot
Speaker 3: of women basketball players who are speaking and having the
Speaker 3: same way we feel about it. Because when Lebron came
Speaker 3: in the league. I love Lebron, He's one of the
Speaker 3: top three all time players, one of my favorite players ever.
Speaker 3: But what he tried to dunk on me when he
Speaker 3: was a rookie and I slammed him to the grounds,
Speaker 3: hard down slammed, and we have the putage are hard
Speaker 3: down slammed him. That's just the part of the game.
Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to hurt him. It was just you're
Speaker 3: not gonna embarrass me and you coming to the league,
Speaker 3: you know, it's a part of the game. I don't
Speaker 3: think people are doing it to actually hurt her off
Speaker 3: being a personal If you've never been in the game,
Speaker 3: you wouldn't understand. That's why I like the way that
Speaker 3: a lot of the female athletes are speaking up saying
Speaker 3: that no, this happens in the game too. You know
Speaker 3: I played this game. We're gonna treat Kaitln just like
Speaker 3: everybody else. Am I saying she didn't do what she's
Speaker 3: doing for the game. No, but she is a regular
Speaker 3: player just like everybody else when we play the game.
Speaker 3: And I respect that so but you have to deal
Speaker 3: with the good and bad both ways. I think with
Speaker 3: any sports you deal with, people are gonna praise you.
Speaker 3: As soon as you get they get a chance to
Speaker 3: kick you, they're gonna kick you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Just the fact that the odds are on it. I
Speaker 3: think both of these women because I've been watching that
Speaker 3: come from Texas. You know, I watched, I watched the
Speaker 3: comments win multiple championships. But I love the fact from
Speaker 3: what Kaitlin and what Angel's done for the game, I
Speaker 3: love it.
Speaker 1: And again I think they're the vehicle that are gonna
Speaker 1: make people look up who you know, Diana Trossi, you
Speaker 1: know everyone to go Stewie and the list on how
Speaker 1: talented these women are.
Speaker 2: Asian We'll speak about Asian lay a little bit later.
Speaker 1: But baby in the vehicle, but Jack, I think that
Speaker 1: brings me to my I made a comment the other
Speaker 1: day or I made a little video the other day
Speaker 1: when uh, Caitlyn got pushed down by Sydney Carter, And
Speaker 1: it wasn't so much that she got pushed. You don't
Speaker 1: want to see cheap shots. Sometimes it happens in the
Speaker 1: physicalategy hit with them.
Speaker 2: She's gonna get beat up.
Speaker 1: And they're supposed to beat her up, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like we were talking about before, Like I
Speaker 1: remember the first time we played KD in the preseason
Speaker 1: when he was with Seattle where with the We Believe
Speaker 1: Team Warriors, we was trying to dog his ass, trying
Speaker 1: to dog him at a he was a young boy,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like we tried to physically
Speaker 1: beat him up. But that's what you do to people
Speaker 1: who are supposed to be next in line, that were
Speaker 1: supposed to be great. So again, my whole thing wasn't
Speaker 1: with her getting elbowed or hard screen or even knocked down.
Speaker 1: My thing was where your teammates at your teammates got
Speaker 1: to have your back because this is going to be
Speaker 1: a cold league.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough. I mean, we saw.
Speaker 1: Angel get closed lined the other game, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like this is this is what happens to rookies,
Speaker 1: and I think you know, Jack, we talked about it
Speaker 1: last year or maybe two years ago when the ship
Speaker 1: talking all this stuff that women at the W has
Speaker 1: been chippy.
Speaker 2: They be getting each other's.
Speaker 1: Face, cuss each other out, guys knows saying what it's
Speaker 1: always been this way, but all of a sudden, now
Speaker 1: that people are really paying attention, like like saying, we
Speaker 1: might get cattier. Yeah, right, like oh my god, they
Speaker 1: talked ship, Oh my god they found Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's physical. There's there's flagrant too. Its like, yeah, these
Speaker 1: are women, they been This is competition. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be the dead horse. I just
Speaker 1: think overall the attention is good. You can't pick and
Speaker 1: choose what kind of attention you want because when attention comes,
Speaker 1: you get both sides of it. But shout out all
Speaker 1: these women, the ones that are doing it now. They
Speaker 1: brought a bunch of eyes and the ones that paved
Speaker 1: the way for these women.
Speaker 2: To be able to do what they do. Sent the
Speaker 2: Cooper Sheriff swoops all y'all t this Leslie and me.
Speaker 1: It goes on man, So Don Staley, So you know, again,
Speaker 1: I'm excited that this is uh a topic and that
Speaker 1: these women are getting you know, lights on and whether
Speaker 1: it be good or bad, but it's again, it's for
Speaker 1: the growth of the league. And this is how you know,
Speaker 1: we talk about I think there was a thing those recently,
Speaker 1: but you know, the top five players in the league
Speaker 1: and I think it's Skylar Diggins is making like around
Speaker 1: one point three billion. These kind of eyeballs only go
Speaker 1: back for their next negotiation if I think it's next summer.
Speaker 1: This is the kind of stuff, the eyeballs and the
Speaker 1: commentary and the Steven Age and the Pat McAfee's and
Speaker 1: us and everybody talking about this ship that goes back
Speaker 1: to the bargaining table like okay, Like these are people
Speaker 1: that they're watching these games, and that's how these women's
Speaker 1: salaries grow and they start making more money. So it's
Speaker 1: a whole ecosystem. And shout out all the women players
Speaker 1: out there, everybody who covers it is here. You know,
Speaker 1: Jack just yesterday the Cannice Parker's rookie year. Yep, that
Speaker 1: viral moment. They're trying to dog her, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And the scuff of the window. The sparks
Speaker 1: wasn't going No, the sparks wasn't going Rick Mahard right
Speaker 1: in the middle, old school bad boy. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I think I said all that to say that this
Speaker 1: has been a physical game, this has been a skilled game.
Speaker 1: It has been a very competitive game. And I think
Speaker 1: all the new eyes are growth. Whether it be good
Speaker 1: or bad. They're talking, and that's what you want when
Speaker 1: you're trying to grow the game.
Speaker 2: You can't direct competition, man, just let it happen.
Speaker 1: Things got a little tricky, tricky this morning for Steven
Speaker 1: A on First Take with Monica McNutt and Stephen A
Speaker 1: was talking about you know, who talks about the w
Speaker 1: n B A who talks about the women? Who talks
Speaker 1: about women's sports more the first take and Monica McNutt
Speaker 1: put her foot down instead on business you're already smiling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out double lim Man.
Speaker 1: Respectfully, with your platform, you could have been doing this
Speaker 1: years ago.
Speaker 2: Who talks about that? Who talks about the w NBA,
Speaker 2: who talks about women? Who talk about women's sports more?
Speaker 2: More than more?
Speaker 3: The first take, steven A, respectfully, with your platform, you
Speaker 3: could have been doing this three years ago if you
Speaker 3: wanted to.
Speaker 1: Again, It's it's interesting, you know, because I got to
Speaker 1: see the edit I was. I was on the plane
Speaker 1: when it happened, but you know, listening to Monica talk,
Speaker 1: I kind of got the sense of women that talk
Speaker 1: about men's sports kind of have to watch their tongue
Speaker 1: and the way they address things. And I never looked
Speaker 1: at it that way, the way they approached, the way
Speaker 1: they called it. I never looked at it that way.
Speaker 1: And now you know they're saying that men who are
Speaker 1: coming into this space need to do similar things. You
Speaker 1: need to watch the way you addressed in certain words,
Speaker 1: not to say you do. And it's just a really
Speaker 1: interesting time. But when you hear those two go back
Speaker 1: and forth, and obviously you know, modicaming up. You know,
Speaker 1: had a mic drop old to Steven Day.
Speaker 2: What was your thoughts?
Speaker 3: I actually I love to take Matt because you know,
Speaker 3: we always say, can't even nobody really speak about the
Speaker 3: NBA better than we can, Right, She's a female basketball
Speaker 3: player that's been there and that done it, So it's
Speaker 3: kind of hard.
Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to go against what she's saying.
Speaker 2: But like, and she made a point.
Speaker 3: You know a lot of times people talking loud don't
Speaker 3: make you right, and she was real calm with the
Speaker 3: way she said, and she gave me.
Speaker 2: You know, she was right. You could have been talking
Speaker 2: about this three years ago. I get that.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, steven A Smith and they
Speaker 3: can't get mad at her for speaking facts. Matt, Like
Speaker 3: you just said, it's certain shit. It's certain shit, we
Speaker 3: can say it, certain words we can use when talking
Speaker 3: about women's basketball. And when women start to talk about basketball,
Speaker 3: sometimes you got guys like them, like Steve Nisman that
Speaker 3: trying to overtalk these women. But just because they men,
Speaker 3: you haven't played either, But just because you feel like
Speaker 3: you're a man, you over talk these women feel like
Speaker 3: it's cerain stuff that they can't say, and that and
Speaker 3: then that's not right.
Speaker 1: My question to you is, do men, if we're going
Speaker 1: to join this race, do we need to take a
Speaker 1: back seat and allow the women to lead the race
Speaker 1: as far as.
Speaker 3: The media goes well, in my opinion, I say yes,
Speaker 3: I ain't mad at that, because who can tell you
Speaker 3: more about it than the women that experience doesn't That's
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So that's what and that's what I think. That's the
Speaker 2: main thing.
Speaker 3: I like that women that played it are starting to
Speaker 3: feel the same way we feel. About a lot of
Speaker 3: people that haven't played their game that have big opinions
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't mad at that at all. I ain't
Speaker 1: mad at that because again, the all attention is good attention,
Speaker 1: whether it comes in different forms, good and bad. But
Speaker 1: like you said, some of these women have either played
Speaker 1: there on the highest level of the W or played
Speaker 1: individual and college or overseas and did their things.
Speaker 2: So I do feel like they better than steven A.
Speaker 1: But I do feel like coming in because we expect
Speaker 1: other motherfuckers to take a back seat to us when
Speaker 1: we're exactly our game exactly, so we need to take it, Jack,
Speaker 1: I ain't even matter, but we men might need to
Speaker 1: take a back seat. And a lot of these women
Speaker 1: are steal the car because this is this is their game, Yes,
Speaker 1: and I respect that.
Speaker 2: I like that, Jack. I even even go forwards this, Matt.
Speaker 2: I think it to be.
Speaker 3: You know how we fart for black coaches in the NBA.
Speaker 3: I think we need to fight for it to be
Speaker 3: majority all women coaches in the W. But it's their league,
Speaker 3: league league. Let them have their league, bro, it's their league.
Speaker 3: Let's let's not have men try to come and the
Speaker 3: dominating coach. I think women should have their league. Bro
Speaker 3: will support we should support their league, not trying to
Speaker 3: put the NBA spein on a women's league.
Speaker 2: Okay, ship that the women.
Speaker 1: They have they have, I think they have they have.
Speaker 1: I mean there's women leading particular spaces in the mail.
Speaker 3: But they're just hosting. They're trying to ask for their opinion.
Speaker 3: They just got them on as a pretty face to
Speaker 3: run the show. You know what I'm saying, But in
Speaker 3: their opinions are not respected.
Speaker 2: No, they don't care.
Speaker 1: You're right, they don't care as much even though the
Speaker 1: lot of them know what they're talking about.
Speaker 2: I think I don't think we should air this part.
Speaker 2: But this part is gonna get Yeah, yeah, people that
Speaker 2: through the glass. But my point on TV what's her name?
Speaker 2: Last game? I'm using an example Melika and Malika's asking
Speaker 2: Stephen a basketball question. She's asking Perk. They're not asking
Speaker 2: a basketball question. She does have an opinion, though, you
Speaker 2: know what to ask them questions? You know what I mean? Yeah? No,
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree because I've never heard per say, well, Milika,
Speaker 2: tell me what you think. I've never heard that.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Steve and I say, well,
Speaker 3: nig what do you think who do you think gonna win? Like,
Speaker 3: I've never heard that she's she's asking them questions.
Speaker 1: No, I like the whole idea that you know we're
Speaker 1: coming over, you know we're Instagram post people are coming over,
Speaker 1: podcasters and all podcasters that everyone's talking about with this
Speaker 1: is the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we need to take a back seat and
Speaker 2: allow them to lead.
Speaker 1: I like that. So our brother Pat McAfee earlier today.
Speaker 1: We know Pat and know he means well, it comes
Speaker 1: from a genuine place. And you know the love he
Speaker 1: has for Caitlin Clark and she's been on this show.
Speaker 1: But he he got himself in this today. Jack got
Speaker 1: himself in a little shit. Excuse me, he got herself
Speaker 1: in this a little bit shit. Yesterday he said, I
Speaker 1: would like the media people that continue to say this
Speaker 1: rookie classes, rookie classes, rookie class.
Speaker 2: Nah uh, just call for what it is.
Speaker 1: There's one white and that's too short, like to say,
Speaker 1: what's my favorite word from the Indiana team who is
Speaker 1: a superstar. But I would like the media people they
Speaker 1: continue to say this rookie class, this rookie class, this rookie.
Speaker 2: Class, not just call it for what it is. There's
Speaker 2: one white bitch for the Indiana team who is a superstar.
Speaker 1: Again, I don't think he meant to demean her disrespect
Speaker 1: her by any means, but I'll the only pushback I'll
Speaker 1: have is maybe choose a different word. But although it's
Speaker 1: a lot to do with Caitlyn, I think it also
Speaker 1: has to do with Angel because again, as we touched
Speaker 1: on earlier show, I think their rivalry, you know, started
Speaker 1: two years ago in college and it's carried over and
Speaker 1: their family. You got to think both these women were,
Speaker 1: with all due respect, numbers wise and business wise, bigger
Speaker 1: than the WNBA. They were built in brands and they've
Speaker 1: come over. And not only is Caavin because I love Kevine,
Speaker 1: you know, I speak up for it, and I love Angel,
Speaker 1: And again I think it is a very talented class.
Speaker 1: But these women in particular are playing in front of
Speaker 1: sold out.
Speaker 2: A news flash that only women can say that word
Speaker 2: to each other. Okay, if you don't know, they say
Speaker 2: it to each other all the time, and it's wanted.
Speaker 3: That's a compliment to them when they call it, But
Speaker 3: we can never say that at any time that I
Speaker 3: know what you mean. You're my dog. You got a
Speaker 3: great heart. I know exactly what you meant, but the
Speaker 3: world don't know that. So but he's right, man, He
Speaker 3: right though. She A lot of people are just trying
Speaker 3: to find a way to just kick Caitlyn because she's
Speaker 3: been having so much success and people don't want to
Speaker 3: don't want to just say she did it. But at
Speaker 3: the same time, he has to give Angel Angel excuse me,
Speaker 3: Angel Resea her credit. But she she's done a lot
Speaker 3: for the Gama. I you know what, I'm gonna keep
Speaker 3: it funky. My daughter, she's ten years old. I went
Speaker 3: in her room with her and her friend or watch
Speaker 3: her Angel Angels videos, so you.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. A lot but a lot of
Speaker 2: black kids are watching the game because of her dog,
Speaker 2: and I love it. And I just don't want people
Speaker 2: to think, like, if you love Caitlyn, you can't love
Speaker 2: that's whack. That's a whack mentality love.
Speaker 1: Because obviously, you know twenty twenty four, we want to
Speaker 1: don't want to say color plays. Color always plays a
Speaker 1: thing in in in sports and in life in general.
Speaker 1: And I hope that people think because you love one,
Speaker 1: you don't have to hate the other.
Speaker 3: But how'd you benefiting from picking side? They ain't paying you,
Speaker 3: they ain't gonna come in.
Speaker 1: You could like one more than the other, but I
Speaker 1: think at the same time we just have to understand
Speaker 1: what they both mean.
Speaker 2: Right there.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a there's a hero in a vellin,
Speaker 1: so to speak, and there's a storyline in the league.
Speaker 1: And again, like I said earlier in the show, all
Speaker 1: this shit is a vehicle to see what the rest
Speaker 1: of the league is like and shit over the first
Speaker 1: you know, handful of weeks, what stood out to you?
Speaker 3: You know, a friend of the program has been killing.
Speaker 3: That's all I want to really need to be talked about.
Speaker 3: It's our age you have been killing. That's all that
Speaker 3: needs to be talking about.
Speaker 1: She's been doing twenty six thirteen. Three buses are either
Speaker 1: three or four in the league right now. Connecticut Son
Speaker 1: are undefeated. I think Liberty, I think Sabrina's Liberty. I
Speaker 1: think are number two in the league. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: should have had a written down bringsballin.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the good stuff.
Speaker 1: Bringsballing, mom Man Kelsey, plug the whole. There's just a
Speaker 1: lot of good stuff. And again, Jack, you've been a
Speaker 1: fan for a long time. I've been a fan of
Speaker 1: the game. I'm not gonna lie act like I watched
Speaker 1: every since because I didn't. I neither, I didn't, but
Speaker 1: I definitely know who was who and who was winning
Speaker 1: and what was going on. But again, I think now
Speaker 1: that you know.
Speaker 2: There's just been more attention. It's a hot topic.
Speaker 1: Everyone's talking about it and everyone's watching it, which we've
Speaker 1: all been saying.
Speaker 2: It's good for the game.
Speaker 3: Everybody got their favorite players. She's like, I've been watching
Speaker 3: Ty Young since she got the leader. That's my real friend.
Speaker 3: That is my sister, like I know, or we hang around.
Speaker 3: So like a lot of people have been watching the game.
Speaker 3: But you can't be mad that it's big as it's ever.
Speaker 3: But the game is supposed to evolve and get bigger.
Speaker 3: And that's where we're at.
Speaker 1: Right And like I said, good come with the bad yep.
Speaker 2: Jack.
Speaker 1: The finals are around the corner. I think game two
Speaker 1: or game one, excuse me, is Thursday evening. They're saying
Speaker 1: that if Dallas by the numbers. Sports folks are saying
Speaker 1: of Dallas upsets Boston, it will be statistically the biggest
Speaker 1: upset in NBA. It's one of the biggest upsets in
Speaker 1: NBA history.
Speaker 2: I don't think we look.
Speaker 1: At it like that, but I think that's I mean,
Speaker 1: numbers wise, you know, it's up there with Golden State
Speaker 1: and Cleveland, who was the other one Piston over the Lakers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't sound right.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts when you hear that, and what
Speaker 2: are your thoughts on this finals? It don't seem right
Speaker 2: to me. No, I think they're more even the match,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: I just feel like at this point in the game,
Speaker 3: in the NBA and the teams that's in it, it's
Speaker 3: all about being the best in that series.
Speaker 2: None of that stuff matters because we dealt with that.
Speaker 2: You know, they had us getting.
Speaker 3: Blown out by Dallas and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: and we end up winning the series, So none of
Speaker 3: that matters. They still have to play the game regards
Speaker 3: what they're saying or who gonna win. But both of
Speaker 3: these teams have dealt with a lot. I think for
Speaker 3: the biggest part for me about this series matters. If
Speaker 3: the Dallas supporting cast can continue to play the way
Speaker 3: they've been playing, it's gonna be hard for Boston to
Speaker 3: beat them. And Boston's big two they're gonna have to
Speaker 3: be the big two every game, like like Luke and
Speaker 3: Kyrie has been in order for no off nights and
Speaker 3: the last name KP if porzing is gonna be available,
Speaker 3: and what type of play he's gonna be good co.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's been out by the time
Speaker 1: game one hits, maybe forty days, almost a month and
Speaker 1: a half, he'll have been out.
Speaker 2: You ain't help it. Forty days, got damn.
Speaker 1: You gotta think that you gotta baby them calf strains.
Speaker 1: You know, that's something that they kept Gianness out the
Speaker 1: whole playoffs. This is something that KD came back on
Speaker 1: it and it turned it happened yep with that. So
Speaker 1: this is a skin and Porzingis has been someone who's
Speaker 1: you know and had bad luck with injuries, so I
Speaker 1: think he is going to be a.
Speaker 2: Key to this series.
Speaker 1: You know, Dallas has been excuse me, Boston has been
Speaker 1: the best team in the league all year. They won
Speaker 1: sixty four games, but they've kind of just flown under
Speaker 1: the radar for whatever reason. You know, There's been a
Speaker 1: lot of other bigger story lines throughout the season. But
Speaker 1: then like you said, Dallas has gotten hotter at the
Speaker 1: right time. Yeah, and the redemption story for Kyrie is incredible.
Speaker 1: If they win this, Luca's greatness continues to climb.
Speaker 2: But there are others.
Speaker 1: There are two big boys, Gafford and and what's the
Speaker 1: jumping boy. Lucas said KP wasn't tough enough, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he did the way PJ. Washington has been playing their role.
Speaker 1: Funny Tim Hardaway Junior has been pushed out the lineup.
Speaker 1: I like it with the young boys. I like it's
Speaker 1: not your daddy.
Speaker 2: I like it. Here you go. Nick is crazy.
Speaker 3: No, I like it because he ain't. It's guys that's
Speaker 3: coming off the bus has been way more productive than him.
Speaker 2: He's a bucket. But yeah he can shoot, but he
Speaker 2: don't do nothing, no defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's gonna be again. I'm excited that. I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a great series. You know, two
Speaker 1: stars versus two stars, and who's others come to play?
Speaker 1: But obviously I think port Zings is going to be big.
Speaker 1: And just the storylines with Kyrie going back to Boston.
Speaker 1: What you just said about Luca, what Lucas said about KP.
Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot of act there's just
Speaker 1: a lot of activity in basketball right now, male and female.
Speaker 1: Let me get a shout out to Joe Mizzoula too.
Speaker 3: They asked him a tough court asking question about Kyrie
Speaker 3: and the and the and the reporter was basically trying
Speaker 3: to bait him to say some negative stuff.
Speaker 2: His whole reply was, well, you know, I love Kyrie.
Speaker 3: You know he's a great plays some amazing stuff this
Speaker 3: week this year, and uh, you know, he's somebody that
Speaker 3: we gotta really pay attention to his guard. But I
Speaker 3: love everything he's doing. Trying to get wait, Joe, wait,
Speaker 3: did I fall forward? I love Joe Miszoula, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I even love the fact that he
Speaker 3: teaches all his players to contest every shot during timeouts.
Speaker 3: If if his players don't contest a shot when they
Speaker 3: call the time out, he run out there and contest.
Speaker 2: I love it. But you got Jack, what you got
Speaker 2: this series?
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people we all, we are all,
Speaker 1: and we are all a part of the Anthony Edwards height.
Speaker 1: Although he's a great player.
Speaker 3: That was like Ca Cats, sole Man Cats. So I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: I'll still speaking of it. We'll get to it makes
Speaker 3: the ship.
Speaker 2: All I will say that that's tough. Dallas and seven,
Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving m v P.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go against you, then I'm gonna go against you.
Speaker 1: I just I want a good series. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stay Boston and seven and Tatum MVP.
Speaker 2: You can't go wrong with that either. I think it's
Speaker 2: gonna be great.
Speaker 3: But you know what, Brown needs to get this MVP though,
Speaker 3: because this year they won all these games, and basically
Speaker 3: at the beginning of the season, if you've seen en
Speaker 3: listened Tatum talk, he took a step back and let
Speaker 3: Brown take the lead because it ain't been working as
Speaker 3: far as him being the league with Brown been taking
Speaker 3: the lead a little more this year and that's why
Speaker 3: they had a lot of success. So I think if
Speaker 3: he gonna they continue to play that way, he's gonna
Speaker 3: get the MVP instead of the table.
Speaker 2: I ain't better. Fact.
Speaker 1: No. Yeah, speaking of ant in Minnesota, you saw Cam
Speaker 1: came back with Uh. First of all, I like the
Speaker 1: outside the box ship that he did. Is went with
Speaker 1: that really felt like Ann Edwards commercial. I didn't take
Speaker 1: it serious, but you know what he said the fuck
Speaker 1: But you know, Carmelo Anthony, you know, is he ready
Speaker 1: to be you know the face. They're throwing that word
Speaker 1: around loosely. He just had a lot of receipts and
Speaker 1: Cam says something and and and said fuck buddy. So
Speaker 1: you know Cam came back yesterday with what you ever
Speaker 1: heard the distract?
Speaker 2: Well I heard the Didas line. Now there's a whole
Speaker 2: song bro about that about everybody. He brought up Kevin ware.
Speaker 2: He went at Adidas. He said, go get Kevin wear.
Speaker 2: What was all his toes? So and said fuck him.
Speaker 1: She said fuck buddy in the commercial, like yeah, fu buddy.
Speaker 1: He was talking like fun buddy.
Speaker 2: Back to basketball.
Speaker 1: With the championship, Luca already a top five European player
Speaker 1: all time.
Speaker 2: Yes, excuse me, top three all time? It depends. Yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah I got I got Dirk and Jokic. Okay, I
Speaker 2: got international European So you got the King went to
Speaker 2: the U of H where Yeah, well he went to
Speaker 2: U of AGE. Bro gave him and kicked it.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I mean is Tumbo leading blocks about most
Speaker 3: blocks of all time?
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. So if you're gonna put a team,
Speaker 2: you gotta throw ma Tumbo.
Speaker 1: So is it European player or is it international players?
Speaker 1: As a whole.
Speaker 2: Let's do it international everyone international? Where's Luca at the hierarchy?
Speaker 3: Still Lucas still top five international all time, Jokic is
Speaker 3: top five and Dirk Okay, I'm not putting before Kim
Speaker 3: Elijah Wan.
Speaker 2: Are you putting You're putting Luca ahead of Yanna stuff.
Speaker 3: I'm definitely putting Luca ahead of Yannis because I said
Speaker 3: that Jannis is run was gonna run out.
Speaker 2: So who's the top five then?
Speaker 1: So we got we got in no particular order that
Speaker 1: Dirk k Luca, we got Elijah on So that leads
Speaker 1: one spot for like cou coach Matumbo, Osten Petrovitch, Genobli Stoyakovich.
Speaker 1: Who else has blessed the game list as the top
Speaker 1: five right now is Nash Dirk Nash? I forgot about that,
Speaker 1: Jokic a team that was last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take Giannis out, I'll take Nash out, and
Speaker 2: they'll be Dirk.
Speaker 3: Jokic, Luca, Elijah Wan and I'm going Genobili because he
Speaker 3: has does have five championships four four he got four,
Speaker 3: Tim got five, he got four.
Speaker 2: He wasn't there for the ninety nine Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean his resume you know, Rookie of the Year
Speaker 1: next five seasons, he's most likely to be first team
Speaker 1: All NBA one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of twenty eight players in the history that
Speaker 2: the league, scoring twice in the last team selections by
Speaker 2: the age of twenty five, league scoring twenty nine, nine
Speaker 2: and eight. Like, what are we bus Korea? That's crazy? Donald?
Speaker 1: Yeah, right now, I mean I would be what is
Speaker 1: what were Lebron's numbers at this point?
Speaker 2: Similar?
Speaker 1: They gotta be right, games a lot different, it's.
Speaker 2: Close, it's a lot different. It's close different. So this
Speaker 2: is a little bit under Maybe it's twenty five Lebron
Speaker 2: is twenty seven, seven and seven.
Speaker 1: Different game, different game. Yeah, I think Bron was going
Speaker 1: in Detroit playing to gain the Ben Wallaston Boys, going
Speaker 1: to San Antonio and playing to get Timmy and the
Speaker 1: boys and Kobeba players.
Speaker 2: How do you look at him winning at EuroLeague title
Speaker 2: and n VB at eighteen for DRED.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's dope, But it's it's just
Speaker 3: not the that's that you the nicest motherfucker over there
Speaker 3: at eighteen says a lot, yes, because it's a whole
Speaker 3: bunch of grown men you play against. It's a whole
Speaker 3: bunch of NBA players and all these no at eighteen,
Speaker 3: that says a lot.
Speaker 2: That says a lot. Look at what you're doing right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I said, even with all that said, that
Speaker 1: doesn't do nothing. When you come here though, he's still
Speaker 1: proving his exactly right in here.
Speaker 2: You're right one.
Speaker 1: So I think we're winnessing greatness, man, and I think
Speaker 1: we got to appreciate it and enjoy it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I just hope this time around, you know, with broun
Speaker 1: On and KD and Steph and maybe Steph. Steph didn't
Speaker 1: get a ton of hate, but Braun and KD got
Speaker 1: a ton of just a ton of hate the whole
Speaker 1: entire time.
Speaker 2: Which is crazy.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Obviously there's more love, but the hate is louder.
Speaker 1: I just hope we appreciate this next generation of new
Speaker 1: stars because they're incredible and they're doing great things. Jake
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