1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: Before we get out of your jacket, shout out Boogie 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Man Championship over there in Taiwan. 3 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 2: Yes, sir doing this thing. Salute Bro, We see you. 4 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 3: And that's the first championship because he has all the 5 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 3: Smoke Productions family. So that's the first championship we bring 6 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 3: home to the family. Appreciate your yes, sir, look, appreciate you, bro. 7 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 3: So if he doesn't go back, you're trying to get 8 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 3: him with the Big Three. 9 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, he told me they wouldn't doing that ship already. 10 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm gonna keep throwing it out there because 11 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 3: if I get Boogie I know I can get. 12 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: A third championship. It's over. 13 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 3: I wanted to be unfair. I'm not trying to be fair. 14 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: Welcome back Unplugged, our weekly look around sports, culture, entertainment, 15 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: coming to you live from Jack's room in Chicago. 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: We out here, baby. 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: It's not too late to get your tickets to our 18 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: show tonight with the Knuckleheads. Go to all the Smoke 19 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: Productions dot com slash tour. 20 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: Pull up man. We're looking to have fun. Man. 21 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: We and JACKI been walking on the seat a little 22 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: bit yes to day and today and a lot of 23 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: good energy. Tickets are going fast, so be there. Keep 24 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: being a square Jack. We got a newsletter now, I 25 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: mean we have a coffee table book. So the writers, 26 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: writers and excited just to kind of give you guys 27 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: more of a glimpse behind the scene, what's going on. 28 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: Cool stuff, we're doing, stuff we're getting into just all 29 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 1: around the goodness of all the smoke productions. We're gonna 30 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: be giving people an opportunity to win those new air 31 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: Jack Jordan Fords. 32 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: Wow, hit the screen, subscribe. 33 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: You get a chance you can use a link in 34 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: the description or all the smoke dot behive that's b 35 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: e e h. 36 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 2: I I v dot com two as as two ease too. 37 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: I so uh yeah, but little it will be weekly 38 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: exclusive content, inside access, behind the scene coverage and just 39 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: overall thoughts of what the hell we got going on, Jack, 40 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: thoughts on our Jordan Fords. 41 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 3: I think it's just a dope opportunity, man. Man, shout 42 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: out to the shoe the shoe surgeon. We appreciate you, bro. 43 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 3: The collab is crazy that like the python on them, 44 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: after all the smoke logo on them. I think if 45 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 3: you ever get a chance to collab with somebody so dope. 46 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 3: I think you should take the advantage of the opportunity. 47 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: So we definitely blessed. 48 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: Shout out Draft Kings, shout out Shoes, Shoe Surgeon, man, 49 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: the Jordan's I can at my house and next thing 50 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: I know, they said they're in Jack's house. 51 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, they want to leave those huh. And the 52 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: case that case is dope. 53 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark has been dominating the news of late, but 54 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: just really and I think before we even get into 55 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: this Caitlyn Clark and Angel and and everything that's going 56 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: on the W, I just think overall, it's a good 57 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: look for women's basketball. 58 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: Jack. I think it's a good look overall. 59 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: I think the one thing that people have to understand 60 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: that people who have been longtime fans, what is the 61 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: twenty seven years of the league, like to understand the 62 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: homage in the path and those who paved the way. 63 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: I think people who appreciate the game due this Kaitlyn 64 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: Clark and Angel recing kind of reminds me and go 65 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: with me a little bit of the Magic Johnson Larry Bird, 66 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: Black Star or white Star. If you remember, you know 67 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: they say Magic and Bird saved basketball. That was a 68 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: thirty fourth year of the NBA. You know, with all 69 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 1: the greatness has happened in the prior twenty seven years 70 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: in the WNBA. You know, some people are saying Kaitlyn 71 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: Clark and Reese are kind of a new iteration of that. 72 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the twenty eighth year for the WNBA, 73 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: and again, although they've had a lot of greatness to 74 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: come before, these ladies, these ladies are bringing the eyeball 75 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: and the attention that they're going to make this game 76 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: go to the next level. 77 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: Well, you're in a noose with the Larry Bird Magic comparison. 78 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: I think they're dealing with a lot of stuff that 79 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: Magic and Larry deal with. Like people made Larry and 80 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: Magic it seemed like it was racial between them, but 81 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: it wasn't Larry and Magic. 82 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: They loved each other, but. 83 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: Everybody on the outside with their own side, you know 84 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, They had to pick a side, and 85 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: they made it racial. And I think both of the 86 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: both of these young ladies are dealing with the same thing. 87 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 3: It's always been great basketball, but it was never basketball 88 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 3: on the eyes on basketball like it was in college 89 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: for these two young ladies, and its transferring to the 90 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 3: w bas So both of these young ladies have everything 91 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: to do with it being the light being on basketball now. 92 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: But I will it was a talented rookie class overall, 93 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 3: but those two are there, right, yeah, exactly right right. 94 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 3: And this is why I love that it's a lot 95 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: of women basketball players who are speaking and having the 96 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: same way we feel about it. Because when Lebron came 97 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: in the league. I love Lebron, He's one of the 98 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: top three all time players, one of my favorite players ever. 99 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 3: But what he tried to dunk on me when he 100 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 3: was a rookie and I slammed him to the grounds, 101 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: hard down slammed, and we have the putage are hard 102 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: down slammed him. That's just the part of the game. 103 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to hurt him. It was just you're 104 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 3: not gonna embarrass me and you coming to the league, 105 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: you know, it's a part of the game. I don't 106 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: think people are doing it to actually hurt her off 107 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 3: being a personal If you've never been in the game, 108 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 3: you wouldn't understand. That's why I like the way that 109 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: a lot of the female athletes are speaking up saying 110 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: that no, this happens in the game too. You know 111 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: I played this game. We're gonna treat Kaitln just like 112 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 3: everybody else. Am I saying she didn't do what she's 113 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 3: doing for the game. No, but she is a regular 114 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: player just like everybody else when we play the game. 115 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 3: And I respect that so but you have to deal 116 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 3: with the good and bad both ways. I think with 117 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: any sports you deal with, people are gonna praise you. 118 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 3: As soon as you get they get a chance to 119 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 3: kick you, they're gonna kick you know what I'm saying. 120 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 3: Just the fact that the odds are on it. I 121 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: think both of these women because I've been watching that 122 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: come from Texas. You know, I watched, I watched the 123 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 3: comments win multiple championships. But I love the fact from 124 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: what Kaitlin and what Angel's done for the game, I 125 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 3: love it. 126 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: And again I think they're the vehicle that are gonna 127 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: make people look up who you know, Diana Trossi, you 128 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: know everyone to go Stewie and the list on how 129 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: talented these women are. 130 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: Asian We'll speak about Asian lay a little bit later. 131 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: But baby in the vehicle, but Jack, I think that 132 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: brings me to my I made a comment the other 133 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: day or I made a little video the other day 134 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: when uh, Caitlyn got pushed down by Sydney Carter, And 135 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: it wasn't so much that she got pushed. You don't 136 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: want to see cheap shots. Sometimes it happens in the 137 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: physicalategy hit with them. 138 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: She's gonna get beat up. 139 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: And they're supposed to beat her up, you know what 140 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: I mean, Like we were talking about before, Like I 141 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: remember the first time we played KD in the preseason 142 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: when he was with Seattle where with the We Believe 143 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: Team Warriors, we was trying to dog his ass, trying 144 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: to dog him at a he was a young boy, 145 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like we tried to physically 146 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: beat him up. But that's what you do to people 147 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: who are supposed to be next in line, that were 148 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: supposed to be great. So again, my whole thing wasn't 149 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: with her getting elbowed or hard screen or even knocked down. 150 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: My thing was where your teammates at your teammates got 151 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: to have your back because this is going to be 152 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: a cold league. 153 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough. I mean, we saw. 154 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: Angel get closed lined the other game, you know what 155 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: I mean, Like this is this is what happens to rookies, 156 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: and I think you know, Jack, we talked about it 157 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: last year or maybe two years ago when the ship 158 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: talking all this stuff that women at the W has 159 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: been chippy. 160 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: They be getting each other's. 161 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: Face, cuss each other out, guys knows saying what it's 162 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: always been this way, but all of a sudden, now 163 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: that people are really paying attention, like like saying, we 164 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: might get cattier. Yeah, right, like oh my god, they 165 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: talked ship, Oh my god they found Oh my god, 166 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: it's physical. There's there's flagrant too. Its like, yeah, these 167 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: are women, they been This is competition. So I mean, 168 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to be the dead horse. I just 169 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: think overall the attention is good. You can't pick and 170 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: choose what kind of attention you want because when attention comes, 171 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: you get both sides of it. But shout out all 172 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: these women, the ones that are doing it now. They 173 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: brought a bunch of eyes and the ones that paved 174 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: the way for these women. 175 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: To be able to do what they do. Sent the 176 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: Cooper Sheriff swoops all y'all t this Leslie and me. 177 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: It goes on man, So Don Staley, So you know, again, 178 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm excited that this is uh a topic and that 179 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: these women are getting you know, lights on and whether 180 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: it be good or bad, but it's again, it's for 181 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: the growth of the league. And this is how you know, 182 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: we talk about I think there was a thing those recently, 183 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: but you know, the top five players in the league 184 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: and I think it's Skylar Diggins is making like around 185 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: one point three billion. These kind of eyeballs only go 186 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: back for their next negotiation if I think it's next summer. 187 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: This is the kind of stuff, the eyeballs and the 188 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: commentary and the Steven Age and the Pat McAfee's and 189 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: us and everybody talking about this ship that goes back 190 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: to the bargaining table like okay, Like these are people 191 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: that they're watching these games, and that's how these women's 192 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: salaries grow and they start making more money. So it's 193 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: a whole ecosystem. And shout out all the women players 194 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: out there, everybody who covers it is here. You know, 195 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: Jack just yesterday the Cannice Parker's rookie year. Yep, that 196 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: viral moment. They're trying to dog her, you know what 197 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: I mean. And the scuff of the window. The sparks 198 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: wasn't going No, the sparks wasn't going Rick Mahard right 199 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: in the middle, old school bad boy. But I mean, 200 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: I think I said all that to say that this 201 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: has been a physical game, this has been a skilled game. 202 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: It has been a very competitive game. And I think 203 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: all the new eyes are growth. Whether it be good 204 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: or bad. They're talking, and that's what you want when 205 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: you're trying to grow the game. 206 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: You can't direct competition, man, just let it happen. 207 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: Things got a little tricky, tricky this morning for Steven 208 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: A on First Take with Monica McNutt and Stephen A 209 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: was talking about you know, who talks about the w 210 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: n B A who talks about the women? Who talks 211 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: about women's sports more the first take and Monica McNutt 212 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: put her foot down instead on business you're already smiling. 213 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out double lim Man. 214 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: Respectfully, with your platform, you could have been doing this 215 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: years ago. 216 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: Who talks about that? Who talks about the w NBA, 217 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: who talks about women? Who talk about women's sports more? 218 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 2: More than more? 219 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 3: The first take, steven A, respectfully, with your platform, you 220 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: could have been doing this three years ago if you 221 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 3: wanted to. 222 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: Again, It's it's interesting, you know, because I got to 223 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: see the edit I was. I was on the plane 224 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: when it happened, but you know, listening to Monica talk, 225 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: I kind of got the sense of women that talk 226 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: about men's sports kind of have to watch their tongue 227 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: and the way they address things. And I never looked 228 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: at it that way, the way they approached, the way 229 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: they called it. I never looked at it that way. 230 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: And now you know they're saying that men who are 231 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: coming into this space need to do similar things. You 232 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: need to watch the way you addressed in certain words, 233 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: not to say you do. And it's just a really 234 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: interesting time. But when you hear those two go back 235 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: and forth, and obviously you know, modicaming up. You know, 236 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: had a mic drop old to Steven Day. 237 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 2: What was your thoughts? 238 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 3: I actually I love to take Matt because you know, 239 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 3: we always say, can't even nobody really speak about the 240 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: NBA better than we can, Right, She's a female basketball 241 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: player that's been there and that done it, So it's 242 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 3: kind of hard. 243 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to go against what she's saying. 244 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: But like, and she made a point. 245 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 3: You know a lot of times people talking loud don't 246 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 3: make you right, and she was real calm with the 247 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: way she said, and she gave me. 248 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: You know, she was right. You could have been talking 249 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: about this three years ago. I get that. 250 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 3: But at the same time, steven A Smith and they 251 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: can't get mad at her for speaking facts. Matt, Like 252 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: you just said, it's certain shit. It's certain shit, we 253 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 3: can say it, certain words we can use when talking 254 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: about women's basketball. And when women start to talk about basketball, 255 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: sometimes you got guys like them, like Steve Nisman that 256 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 3: trying to overtalk these women. But just because they men, 257 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 3: you haven't played either, But just because you feel like 258 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: you're a man, you over talk these women feel like 259 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: it's cerain stuff that they can't say, and that and 260 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: then that's not right. 261 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: My question to you is, do men, if we're going 262 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: to join this race, do we need to take a 263 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: back seat and allow the women to lead the race 264 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: as far as. 265 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 3: The media goes well, in my opinion, I say yes, 266 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: I ain't mad at that, because who can tell you 267 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: more about it than the women that experience doesn't That's 268 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 269 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 2: So that's what and that's what I think. That's the 270 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: main thing. 271 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 3: I like that women that played it are starting to 272 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 3: feel the same way we feel. About a lot of 273 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: people that haven't played their game that have big opinions 274 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 3: about it. 275 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't mad at that at all. I ain't 276 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: mad at that because again, the all attention is good attention, 277 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: whether it comes in different forms, good and bad. But 278 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: like you said, some of these women have either played 279 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: there on the highest level of the W or played 280 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: individual and college or overseas and did their things. 281 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: So I do feel like they better than steven A. 282 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: But I do feel like coming in because we expect 283 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: other motherfuckers to take a back seat to us when 284 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: we're exactly our game exactly, so we need to take it, Jack, 285 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: I ain't even matter, but we men might need to 286 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: take a back seat. And a lot of these women 287 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: are steal the car because this is this is their game, Yes, 288 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: and I respect that. 289 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 2: I like that, Jack. I even even go forwards this, Matt. 290 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: I think it to be. 291 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 3: You know how we fart for black coaches in the NBA. 292 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 3: I think we need to fight for it to be 293 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: majority all women coaches in the W. But it's their league, 294 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 3: league league. Let them have their league, bro, it's their league. 295 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 3: Let's let's not have men try to come and the 296 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 3: dominating coach. I think women should have their league. Bro 297 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 3: will support we should support their league, not trying to 298 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 3: put the NBA spein on a women's league. 299 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: Okay, ship that the women. 300 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: They have they have, I think they have they have. 301 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: I mean there's women leading particular spaces in the mail. 302 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: But they're just hosting. They're trying to ask for their opinion. 303 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 3: They just got them on as a pretty face to 304 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 3: run the show. You know what I'm saying, But in 305 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: their opinions are not respected. 306 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 2: No, they don't care. 307 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: You're right, they don't care as much even though the 308 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: lot of them know what they're talking about. 309 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: I think I don't think we should air this part. 310 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 2: But this part is gonna get Yeah, yeah, people that 311 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: through the glass. But my point on TV what's her name? 312 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: Last game? I'm using an example Melika and Malika's asking 313 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: Stephen a basketball question. She's asking Perk. They're not asking 314 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: a basketball question. She does have an opinion, though, you 315 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: know what to ask them questions? You know what I mean? Yeah? No, 316 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: I agree, I agree because I've never heard per say, well, Milika, 317 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 2: tell me what you think. I've never heard that. 318 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Steve and I say, well, 319 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 3: nig what do you think who do you think gonna win? Like, 320 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 3: I've never heard that she's she's asking them questions. 321 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: No, I like the whole idea that you know we're 322 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: coming over, you know we're Instagram post people are coming over, 323 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: podcasters and all podcasters that everyone's talking about with this 324 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: is the game. 325 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we need to take a back seat and 326 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: allow them to lead. 327 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: I like that. So our brother Pat McAfee earlier today. 328 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: We know Pat and know he means well, it comes 329 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: from a genuine place. And you know the love he 330 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: has for Caitlin Clark and she's been on this show. 331 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: But he he got himself in this today. Jack got 332 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: himself in a little shit. Excuse me, he got herself 333 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: in this a little bit shit. Yesterday he said, I 334 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: would like the media people that continue to say this 335 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: rookie classes, rookie classes, rookie class. 336 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: Nah uh, just call for what it is. 337 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: There's one white and that's too short, like to say, 338 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: what's my favorite word from the Indiana team who is 339 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: a superstar. But I would like the media people they 340 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: continue to say this rookie class, this rookie class, this rookie. 341 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: Class, not just call it for what it is. There's 342 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: one white bitch for the Indiana team who is a superstar. 343 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: Again, I don't think he meant to demean her disrespect 344 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: her by any means, but I'll the only pushback I'll 345 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: have is maybe choose a different word. But although it's 346 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: a lot to do with Caitlyn, I think it also 347 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: has to do with Angel because again, as we touched 348 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: on earlier show, I think their rivalry, you know, started 349 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: two years ago in college and it's carried over and 350 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: their family. You got to think both these women were, 351 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: with all due respect, numbers wise and business wise, bigger 352 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: than the WNBA. They were built in brands and they've 353 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: come over. And not only is Caavin because I love Kevine, 354 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: you know, I speak up for it, and I love Angel, 355 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: And again I think it is a very talented class. 356 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: But these women in particular are playing in front of 357 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: sold out. 358 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: A news flash that only women can say that word 359 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: to each other. Okay, if you don't know, they say 360 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: it to each other all the time, and it's wanted. 361 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: That's a compliment to them when they call it, But 362 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: we can never say that at any time that I 363 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: know what you mean. You're my dog. You got a 364 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: great heart. I know exactly what you meant, but the 365 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: world don't know that. So but he's right, man, He 366 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 3: right though. She A lot of people are just trying 367 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: to find a way to just kick Caitlyn because she's 368 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: been having so much success and people don't want to 369 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: don't want to just say she did it. But at 370 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 3: the same time, he has to give Angel Angel excuse me, 371 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 3: Angel Resea her credit. But she she's done a lot 372 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: for the Gama. I you know what, I'm gonna keep 373 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: it funky. My daughter, she's ten years old. I went 374 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 3: in her room with her and her friend or watch 375 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 3: her Angel Angels videos, so you. 376 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. A lot but a lot of 377 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: black kids are watching the game because of her dog, 378 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 2: and I love it. And I just don't want people 379 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: to think, like, if you love Caitlyn, you can't love 380 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: that's whack. That's a whack mentality love. 381 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: Because obviously, you know twenty twenty four, we want to 382 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: don't want to say color plays. Color always plays a 383 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: thing in in in sports and in life in general. 384 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: And I hope that people think because you love one, 385 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: you don't have to hate the other. 386 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 3: But how'd you benefiting from picking side? They ain't paying you, 387 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 3: they ain't gonna come in. 388 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: You could like one more than the other, but I 389 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: think at the same time we just have to understand 390 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: what they both mean. 391 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: Right there. 392 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: You know, there's a there's a hero in a vellin, 393 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: so to speak, and there's a storyline in the league. 394 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 1: And again, like I said earlier in the show, all 395 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: this shit is a vehicle to see what the rest 396 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: of the league is like and shit over the first 397 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: you know, handful of weeks, what stood out to you? 398 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 3: You know, a friend of the program has been killing. 399 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 3: That's all I want to really need to be talked about. 400 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: It's our age you have been killing. That's all that 401 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 3: needs to be talking about. 402 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: She's been doing twenty six thirteen. Three buses are either 403 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: three or four in the league right now. Connecticut Son 404 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: are undefeated. I think Liberty, I think Sabrina's Liberty. I 405 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: think are number two in the league. If I'm not mistaken, 406 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: should have had a written down bringsballin. 407 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the good stuff. 408 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: Bringsballing, mom Man Kelsey, plug the whole. There's just a 409 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: lot of good stuff. And again, Jack, you've been a 410 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: fan for a long time. I've been a fan of 411 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: the game. I'm not gonna lie act like I watched 412 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: every since because I didn't. I neither, I didn't, but 413 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: I definitely know who was who and who was winning 414 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 1: and what was going on. But again, I think now 415 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: that you know. 416 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: There's just been more attention. It's a hot topic. 417 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: Everyone's talking about it and everyone's watching it, which we've 418 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: all been saying. 419 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 2: It's good for the game. 420 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 3: Everybody got their favorite players. She's like, I've been watching 421 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 3: Ty Young since she got the leader. That's my real friend. 422 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: That is my sister, like I know, or we hang around. 423 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 3: So like a lot of people have been watching the game. 424 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 3: But you can't be mad that it's big as it's ever. 425 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: But the game is supposed to evolve and get bigger. 426 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 3: And that's where we're at. 427 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: Right And like I said, good come with the bad yep. 428 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: Jack. 429 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: The finals are around the corner. I think game two 430 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: or game one, excuse me, is Thursday evening. They're saying 431 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: that if Dallas by the numbers. Sports folks are saying 432 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: of Dallas upsets Boston, it will be statistically the biggest 433 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: upset in NBA. It's one of the biggest upsets in 434 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: NBA history. 435 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: I don't think we look. 436 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: At it like that, but I think that's I mean, 437 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: numbers wise, you know, it's up there with Golden State 438 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: and Cleveland, who was the other one Piston over the Lakers. Yeah, 439 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: don't sound right. 440 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts when you hear that, and what 441 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: are your thoughts on this finals? It don't seem right 442 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: to me. No, I think they're more even the match, 443 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: you know. 444 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: I just feel like at this point in the game, 445 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: in the NBA and the teams that's in it, it's 446 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 3: all about being the best in that series. 447 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 2: None of that stuff matters because we dealt with that. 448 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 2: You know, they had us getting. 449 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 3: Blown out by Dallas and you know what I'm saying, 450 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: and we end up winning the series, So none of 451 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 3: that matters. They still have to play the game regards 452 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: what they're saying or who gonna win. But both of 453 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: these teams have dealt with a lot. I think for 454 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 3: the biggest part for me about this series matters. If 455 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: the Dallas supporting cast can continue to play the way 456 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 3: they've been playing, it's gonna be hard for Boston to 457 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: beat them. And Boston's big two they're gonna have to 458 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 3: be the big two every game, like like Luke and 459 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 3: Kyrie has been in order for no off nights and 460 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 3: the last name KP if porzing is gonna be available, 461 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: and what type of play he's gonna be good co. 462 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's been out by the time 463 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: game one hits, maybe forty days, almost a month and 464 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: a half, he'll have been out. 465 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 2: You ain't help it. Forty days, got damn. 466 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: You gotta think that you gotta baby them calf strains. 467 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: You know, that's something that they kept Gianness out the 468 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: whole playoffs. This is something that KD came back on 469 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: it and it turned it happened yep with that. So 470 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: this is a skin and Porzingis has been someone who's 471 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: you know and had bad luck with injuries, so I 472 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: think he is going to be a. 473 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: Key to this series. 474 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: You know, Dallas has been excuse me, Boston has been 475 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: the best team in the league all year. They won 476 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: sixty four games, but they've kind of just flown under 477 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: the radar for whatever reason. You know, There's been a 478 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: lot of other bigger story lines throughout the season. But 479 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: then like you said, Dallas has gotten hotter at the 480 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: right time. Yeah, and the redemption story for Kyrie is incredible. 481 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: If they win this, Luca's greatness continues to climb. 482 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: But there are others. 483 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: There are two big boys, Gafford and and what's the 484 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: jumping boy. Lucas said KP wasn't tough enough, right, Yeah, yeah, 485 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 1: he did the way PJ. Washington has been playing their role. 486 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: Funny Tim Hardaway Junior has been pushed out the lineup. 487 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: I like it with the young boys. I like it's 488 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: not your daddy. 489 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: I like it. Here you go. Nick is crazy. 490 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 3: No, I like it because he ain't. It's guys that's 491 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 3: coming off the bus has been way more productive than him. 492 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 2: He's a bucket. But yeah he can shoot, but he 493 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: don't do nothing, no defense. 494 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's gonna be again. I'm excited that. I 495 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a great series. You know, two 496 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: stars versus two stars, and who's others come to play? 497 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: But obviously I think port Zings is going to be big. 498 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: And just the storylines with Kyrie going back to Boston. 499 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: What you just said about Luca, what Lucas said about KP. 500 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot of act there's just 501 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: a lot of activity in basketball right now, male and female. 502 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: Let me get a shout out to Joe Mizzoula too. 503 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 3: They asked him a tough court asking question about Kyrie 504 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 3: and the and the and the reporter was basically trying 505 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 3: to bait him to say some negative stuff. 506 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 2: His whole reply was, well, you know, I love Kyrie. 507 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: You know he's a great plays some amazing stuff this 508 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 3: week this year, and uh, you know, he's somebody that 509 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 3: we gotta really pay attention to his guard. But I 510 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: love everything he's doing. Trying to get wait, Joe, wait, 511 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: did I fall forward? I love Joe Miszoula, you know 512 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I even love the fact that he 513 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 3: teaches all his players to contest every shot during timeouts. 514 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 3: If if his players don't contest a shot when they 515 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: call the time out, he run out there and contest. 516 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: I love it. But you got Jack, what you got 517 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: this series? 518 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people we all, we are all, 519 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: and we are all a part of the Anthony Edwards height. 520 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: Although he's a great player. 521 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 3: That was like Ca Cats, sole Man Cats. So I'm sorry, 522 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 3: I'll still speaking of it. We'll get to it makes 523 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 3: the ship. 524 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: All I will say that that's tough. Dallas and seven, 525 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving m v P. 526 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go against you, then I'm gonna go against you. 527 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: I just I want a good series. But I'm gonna 528 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: stay Boston and seven and Tatum MVP. 529 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: You can't go wrong with that either. I think it's 530 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 2: gonna be great. 531 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 3: But you know what, Brown needs to get this MVP though, 532 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: because this year they won all these games, and basically 533 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 3: at the beginning of the season, if you've seen en 534 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 3: listened Tatum talk, he took a step back and let 535 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 3: Brown take the lead because it ain't been working as 536 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 3: far as him being the league with Brown been taking 537 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 3: the lead a little more this year and that's why 538 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 3: they had a lot of success. So I think if 539 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 3: he gonna they continue to play that way, he's gonna 540 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: get the MVP instead of the table. 541 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: I ain't better. Fact. 542 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: No. Yeah, speaking of ant in Minnesota, you saw Cam 543 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: came back with Uh. First of all, I like the 544 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: outside the box ship that he did. Is went with 545 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: that really felt like Ann Edwards commercial. I didn't take 546 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: it serious, but you know what he said the fuck 547 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: But you know, Carmelo Anthony, you know, is he ready 548 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: to be you know the face. They're throwing that word 549 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: around loosely. He just had a lot of receipts and 550 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: Cam says something and and and said fuck buddy. So 551 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: you know Cam came back yesterday with what you ever 552 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: heard the distract? 553 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 2: Well I heard the Didas line. Now there's a whole 554 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: song bro about that about everybody. He brought up Kevin ware. 555 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 2: He went at Adidas. He said, go get Kevin wear. 556 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 2: What was all his toes? So and said fuck him. 557 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: She said fuck buddy in the commercial, like yeah, fu buddy. 558 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: He was talking like fun buddy. 559 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 2: Back to basketball. 560 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: With the championship, Luca already a top five European player 561 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: all time. 562 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 2: Yes, excuse me, top three all time? It depends. Yeah, 563 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: yeah I got I got Dirk and Jokic. Okay, I 564 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: got international European So you got the King went to 565 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: the U of H where Yeah, well he went to 566 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: U of AGE. Bro gave him and kicked it. 567 00:24:55,040 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I mean is Tumbo leading blocks about most 568 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: blocks of all time? 569 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. So if you're gonna put a team, 570 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: you gotta throw ma Tumbo. 571 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: So is it European player or is it international players? 572 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: As a whole. 573 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 2: Let's do it international everyone international? Where's Luca at the hierarchy? 574 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 3: Still Lucas still top five international all time, Jokic is 575 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 3: top five and Dirk Okay, I'm not putting before Kim 576 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 3: Elijah Wan. 577 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 2: Are you putting You're putting Luca ahead of Yanna stuff. 578 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 3: I'm definitely putting Luca ahead of Yannis because I said 579 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 3: that Jannis is run was gonna run out. 580 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: So who's the top five then? 581 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: So we got we got in no particular order that 582 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: Dirk k Luca, we got Elijah on So that leads 583 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: one spot for like cou coach Matumbo, Osten Petrovitch, Genobli Stoyakovich. 584 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: Who else has blessed the game list as the top 585 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: five right now is Nash Dirk Nash? I forgot about that, 586 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: Jokic a team that was last year. 587 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take Giannis out, I'll take Nash out, and 588 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 2: they'll be Dirk. 589 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 3: Jokic, Luca, Elijah Wan and I'm going Genobili because he 590 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: has does have five championships four four he got four, 591 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 3: Tim got five, he got four. 592 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 2: He wasn't there for the ninety nine Yeah, yeah, yeah. 593 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: I mean his resume you know, Rookie of the Year 594 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: next five seasons, he's most likely to be first team 595 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: All NBA one. 596 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, one of twenty eight players in the history that 597 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: the league, scoring twice in the last team selections by 598 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: the age of twenty five, league scoring twenty nine, nine 599 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: and eight. Like, what are we bus Korea? That's crazy? Donald? 600 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, right now, I mean I would be what is 601 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: what were Lebron's numbers at this point? 602 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: Similar? 603 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: They gotta be right, games a lot different, it's. 604 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: Close, it's a lot different. It's close different. So this 605 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: is a little bit under Maybe it's twenty five Lebron 606 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: is twenty seven, seven and seven. 607 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: Different game, different game. Yeah, I think Bron was going 608 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: in Detroit playing to gain the Ben Wallaston Boys, going 609 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: to San Antonio and playing to get Timmy and the 610 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: boys and Kobeba players. 611 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 2: How do you look at him winning at EuroLeague title 612 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: and n VB at eighteen for DRED. 613 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's dope, But it's it's just 614 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 3: not the that's that you the nicest motherfucker over there 615 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: at eighteen says a lot, yes, because it's a whole 616 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 3: bunch of grown men you play against. It's a whole 617 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 3: bunch of NBA players and all these no at eighteen, 618 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 3: that says a lot. 619 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: That says a lot. Look at what you're doing right now. 620 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, But I said, even with all that said, that 621 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: doesn't do nothing. When you come here though, he's still 622 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: proving his exactly right in here. 623 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 2: You're right one. 624 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: So I think we're winnessing greatness, man, and I think 625 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: we got to appreciate it and enjoy it. 626 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: You know. 627 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: I just hope this time around, you know, with broun 628 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: On and KD and Steph and maybe Steph. Steph didn't 629 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: get a ton of hate, but Braun and KD got 630 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: a ton of just a ton of hate the whole 631 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: entire time. 632 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 2: Which is crazy. 633 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: You know. 634 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: Obviously there's more love, but the hate is louder. 635 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: I just hope we appreciate this next generation of new 636 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: stars because they're incredible and they're doing great things. Jake 637 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: Plumber episode drops this week. We went out there, Miller 638 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: Gram Schmiller Space, Cheetos, Turkey Tail. 639 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: We learned a lot. What do we have Line. 640 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: Dell's wife, This is a special message coming from Steven 641 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 3: Jesse Jackson. 642 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: You made vegan passion fruit tarts that were out of 643 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 2: this world. Send us some please, thank you. 644 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: Shut you know, healthy solutions for people again. This is 645 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: a little different for you guys to see this. 646 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:17,479 Speaker 2: Man. 647 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,479 Speaker 1: This was a good We had a lot of health benefits. Though, 648 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: a lot of health benefits. Excited. 649 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: I got a chance to play catch with a snake. Yeah. 650 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: Uh the ship they have me roller though he was 651 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: leaving me, told me he was gonna go see Prime. 652 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: What do you say telling? Telling what to telling? The 653 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: snake said, hello, that's my god. Yeah yeah anyway, man, 654 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: shout out Jake Plumbing. Episode drops this Thursday. Mention you guys, 655 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: tap in a man still trying to buy tickets before 656 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: you get out of here on productions Slash Tour, get 657 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: you some tickets, Come hang out with us, Quinn Richison, 658 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: Darius Mile Us Spot talk to him. 659 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 2: Chicago wants all the smoke anyway man. Hopefully we'll see 660 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: you guys tonight. 661 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: We'll catch you next week with the show catch Us 662 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: All the Smoke Productions YouTube and the DraftKings Network. 663 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: Man, we'll see you guys next week.