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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast On

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Speaker 1: our Christmas night program, Scott Coolbaba with us doctor Scott

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Speaker 1: and we're talking about his work Physicians Untold Stories. How

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Speaker 1: many doctors were you able to interview for the book, Scott,

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Speaker 1: it's probably close to two hundred. George and I used

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Speaker 1: to hang out into the doctor's lounge and about five

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Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, five thirty in the morning, and

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Speaker 1: the doctors would come in and I'd grab them and say,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm doing a book. I committed myself to

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Speaker 1: doing a book. And I would say, do you have

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Speaker 1: any stories that you think might be very interesting that

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Speaker 1: you can't explain scientifically? And I was really surprised, George,

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Speaker 1: the number of stories I got were and the ones

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Speaker 1: I included were the ones that gave me goose bumps

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Speaker 1: or made me cry. And I've had probably fifty or

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Speaker 1: sixty additional stories that the doctors couldn't explain, but they

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Speaker 1: weren't as moving as some of the stories that I

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Speaker 1: put in the book. Now, I guess you could say

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Speaker 1: the same for nurses and other kinds of medical practitioners,

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Speaker 1: couldn't you. Exactly after I started writing the book and

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Speaker 1: nurses found out about it, I have a number of

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Speaker 1: nurses come to me and say, I've got a story

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Speaker 1: for you for the next book. And so I've decided

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Speaker 1: to start collecting some of those stories and maybe make

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Speaker 1: a second or third book on nurses and paramedical professional stories. So,

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Speaker 1: after interviewing these two hundred doctors, did it change your

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Speaker 1: thoughts or views about any of this? Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: when you start talking to doctors that are ordinary people

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Speaker 1: that have never revealed these stories before, and you get

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Speaker 1: some stories that are so so unusual, apparitions, dreams that

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Speaker 1: led them to a miracle, cure, actual miracles where people

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Speaker 1: were cured that you just couldn't explain. You have to

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Speaker 1: say to yourself, as something else out there, There's there's

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Speaker 1: some force. Many people call it the universe, they can

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Speaker 1: call it to God, whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 1: There's something out there. Most of the doctors, myself included,

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Speaker 1: think that this is a result of a divine intervention

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Speaker 1: from God. But there's something else out there. And that's

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Speaker 1: that's strengthened my faith and my testimony that there is

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Speaker 1: something that looks out for us, that helps us along

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Speaker 1: our way, and that people that have passed, and many

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Speaker 1: of your listeners, I'm sure with coronavirus have experienced the losses,

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Speaker 1: and I do think that those people can interact with

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Speaker 1: us and know what we're doing in this life. Some

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Speaker 1: strange coincidences occurred for a couple of the doctors when

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Speaker 1: this was happening to them, wasn't it. Yes, um, there are.

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Speaker 1: There were a number of docks that had some some

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Speaker 1: interesting coincidences. One of the docks, uh John show Walters.

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Speaker 1: His name, John John is a orthpeak's hand surgeon, and

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Speaker 1: the coincidence had happened to him was that he was

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Speaker 1: of Indiana. It's interesting the University of Indiana was one

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Speaker 1: program called microsurgery. And then the microscope has hatched a

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Speaker 1: little tiny blood vessels and little tiny nerves, and there

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Speaker 1: But what John found out was that he loved this

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