1 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: Well, you know, as the world becomes increasingly divided, we 2 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: need spiritual leaders who can unify the church in love. Well, 3 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: today's guest shares why God is calling all believers to 4 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: be bridge builders and how the Lord raised him up 5 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: as a preacher yep, when he was just five years old. 6 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: But before you get to that, join me around the table. 7 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: As April Simon's I don't even know if you were 8 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: saved at five years old. I actually was not. 9 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: You are were you at sinner? 10 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: We were still praying, try to get saved. And I 11 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: finally got saved at seven years old. So I'm going 12 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: to have it. I'll want you to know I got 13 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: saved at six, so I was a year ahead of you, 14 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, and a kindall. How are you? 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: I am just great? 16 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: And I love the fact that he's a bridge builder, 17 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: building bridges over troubled waters. 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: That's right, you know. 19 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: I love it when a child gets saved. I heard 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 3: someone say when when an adult gets saved, that's a 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: soul that saved. When a child gets saved, that's an 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: entire lifetime that's saved. 23 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: Oh that's so good. Dorothy Newton, how are you? I'm good? 24 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: I think she wants to preach. We'll just cut her 25 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: loose and let her go at bit. I know you 26 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: can preach a little bit too, absolutely as well. Cindy Johnson, 27 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: how are you hey. I love pastors that have that 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: message of unity and bridge building and really taking the 29 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: church outside the four walls. 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 4: Yes, and the way that he sees beyond that he 31 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 4: sees wants to bring unity to all people. Yeah, all ages, 32 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 4: and I love that. 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: I need to Cindy Murdoch, how are you doing? These 34 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: are my two Cindy besties. Really everybody at the table 35 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: is my bestie? 36 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 5: Is like? 37 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: Do you have relationship with all these women? 38 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: Yes, been lifelong. 39 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: Seems like we love each other and that's why you 40 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: will sense that unity even with us around the table. 41 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: We love sharing that with you. 42 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 6: Well. 43 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: Today's guest is a senior pastor of New Life Church 44 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: International Fleas Welcome, Bishop Kelvin Caberis, come on in here, 45 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: Pis Are you doing all right? Good to see you. 46 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: It's so good to have you on the table. Yes, 47 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: all the way from Atlanta. Yes, you know, I was 48 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: born in Greenville, South Carolina. That's not that far from Atlanta, Georgia. 49 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: It's not well as a child, Bishop Kelvin Coberts like 50 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: to play church by preaching to the neighborhood kids. But 51 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: today God has raised him up as one of the 52 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: most influential pastors in America. He's joined us today to 53 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: reveal why he's dedicated his life to building bridges in 54 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: the body of Christ. Before we get into that, take 55 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: us back to five year old Kelvin. We want to 56 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: hear the story. 57 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 7: Five year old Kelvin and walked up to the altar 58 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 7: at his church home lives in the Street Church of God, Orlando, Florida, 59 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 7: told my pastor, I want to join the church. He 60 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 7: looks at me, taking me serious. Why the whole church 61 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 7: is laughing, and he says, what would you like to 62 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 7: do in the church? 63 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 8: I said, preach? 64 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 7: And the next night was Monday night prayering me and 65 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 7: he said, you're going to preach that night? 66 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 67 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 7: The church was packed out with all the people that 68 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 7: were laughing and they listened to this five year old 69 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 7: boy talk about drinking and driving. 70 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 8: And minnisols Will saved all of that message. Although it 71 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 8: was not hermaeutic in the sound, it was on point. 72 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: It may not have been totally theolanunchically rag. But it 73 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: was you know, the fact of the matter is that 74 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: you took the challenge on on me. How many five 75 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: year olds stand up? And actually people got saved that night. 76 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: So from that point on, did you always know that 77 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: you were going to preach? 78 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 7: I've actually knew it. I knew it early on from 79 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 7: a kid. My mom would tell me stories of how 80 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 7: God would use me to mendicalisor two and three year 81 00:03:59,360 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 7: old sat five. 82 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 8: So it was just in me. It was a part 83 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 8: of me. 84 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 7: No one taught me so like I came here that 85 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 7: way and throughout my whole course of ministry. 86 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 8: My pastor he brought me up, tutored me. 87 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 7: I had owned the job training and he poured into 88 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 7: me all the way up into my adult. 89 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 8: Age and sent me to school and everything. Here I 90 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 8: am today. 91 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: I think we have a picture of him. Actually, I 92 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: don't know if he's praying for you or your yes, 93 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: but it's a great picture. This man was the real deal, Yes, 94 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: And how important was that for you at that time 95 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: in your life? Kind of talk about some of the 96 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: circumstances you were going through privately, business. 97 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 8: Laugh was a bonus father. 98 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 7: Of course, my parents went through a divorce and of 99 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 7: course that was hard. It's harder for my brother. He 100 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 7: was older, four years older, so he had my dad longer, 101 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 7: and so of course going through that trap of transition. 102 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 7: My mom did the right thing. She brought her sons 103 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 7: to church, and she allowed the village to help bring 104 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 7: her children through a difficult time. And my mentor happened 105 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 7: to be the pastor himself who loved me like his own. 106 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 7: He treated me like his own natural son, poured all 107 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 7: of himself into me. And the last memories I have 108 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 7: of him before he died in twenty fifteen was the 109 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 7: fact that we pastored the church together in his final years, 110 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 7: and that was just the best time of my life, 111 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 7: just for him to watch me do everything that he 112 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 7: taught me to do in a congregation that he had 113 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 7: served for some forty years. 114 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: How did God bless you for the honor and respect 115 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: that you gave him in your life? How did you 116 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: get that and understand that early on and adhere to it? 117 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 8: Honor birth's honor. 118 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 7: When you give honor, your receive honor. Of course, as 119 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 7: a child my mother and my grandmother, like Timothy, I 120 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 7: was raised by that faith who taught me how to 121 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 7: honor God. How to honor them and to honor everyone, 122 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 7: And so that shaped my moral compass of that and 123 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 7: as a result of it, it gave me a respect 124 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 7: for this man of God, not only in his younger years, 125 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 7: but when he got older. I began to commit myself 126 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 7: to him and his widow. His wife is still alive 127 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 7: and while he's passed on, I still serve to the. 128 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: Sty That's awesome. Well, when we talk about honor, I 129 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: was thinking about we just had Lorenzo Sewell on the 130 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: on the table yesterday, and he's doing a great work 131 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: there in Detroit, and God's using him an amazing way, 132 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: even in the political arena, just like you. But he 133 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: talked about something that really struck a chord with me. 134 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: When you talk about honor, the word has a lot 135 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: to say about even honoring your father and your mother. 136 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: It doesn't say honor your father if he's perfect, or 137 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: honor your mother if she doesn't make any mistakes. But 138 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: why is that so important? And he was just talking about, 139 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: like he said in the African American community, that you 140 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: would never dishonor your mother ever, even if you had 141 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,119 Speaker 1: the worst either in the world. 142 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 7: That's called him be dumb, right, moms can kill you 143 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 7: with their look. 144 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: So talk a little bit about that. Why is it 145 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: so important? And we have a generation that doesn't adhere 146 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: to it? 147 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 7: Sure, we have a generation that has lost a sense 148 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 7: of Christ and culture because they are now embraced the 149 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 7: culture that anything goes, and as a result of that, 150 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 7: they don't honor anyone, not even themselves. And so that's 151 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 7: why you see the disrespects and homes. And you have 152 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 7: a lot of single parent homes and mothers that are 153 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 7: trying to rear young men and that's difficult, especially they're 154 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 7: trying to rear them outside of the faith and not 155 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 7: instilling something in them. You'll find it difficult, But I 156 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 7: thank god that early on my mom taught me, my 157 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 7: grandmother taught me that you're going to honor God, and 158 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 7: that's where it stars. You're going to honor us, and 159 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 7: you're going to honor your fellow man. And that's shape 160 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 7: who I am about unity and love and respect to 161 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 7: one another because everybody deserves that. 162 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: Now, where you find yourself today is probably where you 163 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't have thought you had ended up, because you ended 164 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: up in a predominantly white congregation when you had pastored 165 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: predominantly black agregations. But again it kind of adds to 166 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: that narrative of being a bridge builder because now that 167 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: church has become integrated with every color, which I think 168 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: the body of Christ, we should see every color represented 169 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: in our churches. Do you agree with that? 170 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 8: I totally agree. 171 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 7: When I pastored a black church and I changed from 172 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 7: the Liberal Party and became a conservative, and when I 173 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 7: made that decision and gain and prayed for President Trump 174 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 7: and his first administration, that upset my community and as 175 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 7: a result of it, I lost all my members, and 176 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 7: that believed that there was a blessing behind a closed 177 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 7: door because God was now bringing me to the platform 178 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 7: of saying, now I don't want you to. 179 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 8: Just talking to black people. 180 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 7: I'm glad all the black folk walked out on you, 181 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 7: because now I'm going to introduce you to the Kingdom. 182 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 7: And from that time I start having opportunities to speak 183 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 7: to different people, different ethnic groups, and share the love 184 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 7: of Jesus Christ. And then I end up passoring a 185 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 7: church that was predominantly white when I got there, But 186 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 7: now we've got every type of different ethnic group that's 187 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 7: in that church. 188 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 8: Because it starts with me, oh well, I. 189 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: Will let y'all check. But I'm just saying one more thing. 190 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: So Fred Markaret is a dear friend. He's been here 191 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: on the table. He's a globalist and it was with 192 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 1: WYWOM for forty years and trained all these missionaries. But 193 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: he told me something a few days ago. He said, 194 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes in ministry, he said, you can look 195 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: at getting a healing or a resurrection. He said, now, 196 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: Jesus could have gotten to Lazar sooner and there could 197 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: have been a healing, but there actually was a death, 198 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: but then there was a resurrection, and that would be 199 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: a greater story than a healing. So sometimes there are 200 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: things in our life that have to die so that 201 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: they can be resurrected. And sometimes it's the whole perspective 202 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: that we have right and we may not understand, Like 203 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: you may be going through something right now and you 204 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: don't understand, and maybe it's just a death, but it 205 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: just hold on. Joy comes in the morning. Weeping may 206 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: en door for a night, but joy comes in the morning, 207 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: and there's going to be a resurrection if you will 208 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: hold on and trust God, because sometimes we can't understand 209 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: what he's doing, and he's working in our lives in 210 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: a supernatural way. But we're just thinking we just want 211 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: a healing, we just want to fix this one thing. 212 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: But God is saying, no, beyond this, I actually have 213 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: a death and a resurrection. 214 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 8: That's good. 215 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: You'll probably preach that. 216 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 9: And I was thinking when you said that about the 217 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 9: death that with Lazarus, he'd been dead long enough, they said, 218 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 9: But Lord, he stinketh right. Sometimes the death might even stink. Yeah, 219 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 9: it might really be look like no. 220 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: And they go on for three days and that, and 221 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: you think there's not going to be a resurrection. You 222 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: need to preach on a little bit about that. 223 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 7: Tell him it's just like And I looked at the 224 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 7: closed door as a death in a sense, because. 225 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: I mean, just it was a death. 226 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 7: It was a death you see in people that you love, 227 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 7: you serve, and turn against you because of your convictions 228 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 7: to pray for a leader. But then I saw the 229 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 7: real direction when God said, although that door closed, I'm 230 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 7: giving you a greater platform because there's a message I'm 231 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 7: giving you that you got to take not just not 232 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 7: just to America, but to the nations. And that's the 233 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 7: message of oneness and bringing people together through my reconcilation 234 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 7: and love and that's the resurrection. I've come to life 235 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 7: and come to life sharing the message of the love 236 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 7: of Jesus Christ and how we should come together and 237 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 7: be one good. 238 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: It's good. 239 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 5: I find that we see God move in the greatest 240 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 5: ways after an ending. And sometimes I just have to 241 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 5: tell myself, April, God put. 242 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 2: An ending to that. 243 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: Let it end. God shut the doors. Who quit trying 244 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: to open it? 245 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 5: But actually it actually died, Yeah, it actually died. And 246 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 5: you know, I like to say this, stop cheating on 247 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 5: your future with your past and just go for it. 248 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 5: God gave an ending. There's a period of mark now 249 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 5: he has something brand new for you. And if we 250 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 5: just embrace the new, like you said, that, God can 251 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 5: amaze us. 252 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: You know, and you have to let you know if 253 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: you really trust God. You know that that scripture says 254 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: trusting the Lord, one of my favored Chris, trusting the 255 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: Lord with all your heart. Yes, lean not into your 256 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: own understanding, but in all your ways acknowledge him and 257 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: he will direct your path. That's so important, isn't. 258 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: It is so important? 259 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: And I've seen people who've had a phenomenal vision and 260 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 3: they can't seem to get that vision to become a reality. 261 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 3: And what God wants many times is for you to 262 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: let give him that vision and he will end it. 263 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: But what he does then is give. 264 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 3: You one that is even bigger and better and contain 265 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 3: more if we just submit our thoughts and our ways. 266 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: And our visions to him. 267 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 6: What are some practical things that you did to diverse 268 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,599 Speaker 6: the body of Christ? I mean, did you diversify leadership? 269 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: I mean was that it? 270 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 6: Did you encourage groups to different ethnicities to meet together? 271 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 6: I mean, what is the key? Like, I've never been 272 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 6: in an all black or all white church. I believe 273 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 6: that I was called to be part of the body, 274 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 6: the Body of Christ. 275 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: And we've been in church together. We've been in church together. Yeah, 276 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: but so yeah, how did you do that? I mean 277 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: for pastors watching that, like, you know, I'd like to 278 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: see that happen in my church. 279 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 7: Well, this is what I did. First of all, you 280 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 7: got to lead self. You can't preach a message that 281 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 7: you're not going to live out. If you're going to 282 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 7: talk about bridge building, I need to ask you how 283 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 7: many of the different ethnic groups do you have in 284 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 7: your phone as your friends that you are intentional about 285 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 7: building a relationship with. So it's just start with you 286 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 7: that you're a model of a bridge building. And then 287 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 7: I started an organization called bridge Builders Network along with 288 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 7: a few other pastors, and the ideal was that was 289 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 7: we based it on the scripture make them one as 290 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 7: you and I one, so the world would know I 291 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 7: was sent by You, and we use that network to 292 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 7: bring people together, and we brought them together through worship. 293 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 7: But we brought them together through worship to then come 294 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,359 Speaker 7: to have table talk and what we call critical conversations 295 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 7: to talk through some of the issues that we found 296 00:13:58,960 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 7: that were. 297 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 8: Misunderstand at your own tables. 298 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 7: And that's how we really had We encouraged people to 299 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 7: have conversations, stop making misconceptions and judgments, and sit down 300 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 7: with somebody and understand where they come from and their walkness. 301 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 2: Real communications. 302 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 4: Yes, and don't you think having been able to ask 303 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 4: questions honestly from one person to another. 304 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: There are things I grew up in a very. 305 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 10: White world, and as God has brought other cultures into 306 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 10: my life, I have learned so much and it's made 307 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 10: my life richer. 308 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: Richer in so many ways. 309 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 4: But there are a lot of times there are just 310 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 4: questions that you don't understand about one another, although you're 311 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 4: born in the same country, you don't understand. 312 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: In your church. I mean the church you passor for 313 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: over thirty years definitely was diverse. Yes, I mean you 314 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: had Hispanic, black, white, Asian, everyone. 315 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 4: Yes, but it was white for a There were decisions 316 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 4: made that we needed to look like a five mile 317 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 4: radius of our church and the demographics of that, and that's. 318 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: What we sought out to do. But it made the. 319 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: Church so much richer and the communication there's better understanding, 320 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 4: and that's what we need. 321 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: But you lost people too. 322 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: We did. We had people say they need. 323 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 4: Their church and we need our church, and we're like, wow, Wow. 324 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 8: It happens. 325 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 7: I'm telling you because when I made those decisions, I've 326 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 7: had family withdraw. I've had what I thought were friends 327 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 7: withdraw from me simply because I said I want to 328 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 7: love all people. I said, what's wrong with loving all people? 329 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 7: But you just don't understand. I said, obviously you don't understand. 330 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 7: And if you sit down and get an understand, then 331 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 7: maybe you'll treat people differently and stop judging a group 332 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 7: based on what a person did. And a story of 333 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 7: when I was preaching in or somewhere, I was and 334 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 7: a man came up and said to me, he was 335 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 7: brutally attacked by some black guys and he hated black 336 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 7: people from that time. 337 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 8: He said it. 338 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 7: Then one day when he became a pastor here, he 339 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 7: went through a sickness and it was a black man 340 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 7: in his church that basically took care of him and 341 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 7: nurtured him. 342 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 8: Wow, and he said what healed him? 343 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 7: Wills God had to say, you're mad at black people 344 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 7: because some black boys robbed you when you shouldn't have 345 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 7: been made at black people. You should have been angry 346 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 7: the guys who robbed. 347 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 8: You and not judge the whole group. 348 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 7: And that's exactly what people are doing. They're judging entire 349 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 7: group of people by the actions of a few, and 350 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 7: that's just ignorance. We've got to sit down, talk through things, love, 351 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 7: forgive and move forward. 352 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to ask you, and I don't even 353 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: know the answer to this question, but was there anything 354 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: that you had to work through personally? I mean, we've 355 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: done shows on this, by the way, where we talk 356 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: about the prejudice in both because you know you can 357 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: see them both sides. I mean there have been times 358 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: I've had guests and I could since the pushback, and 359 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, you know, And so I mean, we 360 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: talked about Dorothy. We did a show where she shared 361 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: some of the things she had gone through as an 362 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: African American woman. And again it was just to educate 363 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: because I had never had anything like this happened to me. Okay, 364 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: I couldn't even relate to it. She goes into Walmart 365 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: and a policeman follows her, yes, and then follows her home. 366 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 6: He thought I had stolen a jacket that I had 367 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 6: on and you know, got to the counter, you know, 368 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 6: asking for all this. ID followed me home. It was 369 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,719 Speaker 6: the most humiliating. 370 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: And then the next day came to her door. So 371 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: so I had to prove and she had to show 372 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: the receipt where she's also pictures. 373 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 6: Look, I had this jacket on it. It was the worst. 374 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 6: But I mean, you know those experiences, I mean, the 375 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 6: list is long, long, well. 376 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: And two, you know, when we did the shows with 377 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: you and I did it with several others. My mother 378 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: was watching in South Carolina and she said, wow, she said, 379 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: I can't blieme that happened to Dorothy. I mean, and 380 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: so again she's not telling that story. We go, oh, 381 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: Dorothy because she's forgiven and moved on past it. But 382 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: still we need that kind of clarity understanding. Don't you 383 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: think was there anything that happened to you that you 384 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: had to work through and forgive as well? 385 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 7: There I was in Cardissville, Georgia, on my way from 386 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 7: Cleveland from a meeting and stopped by an officer at 387 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 7: Cartersville and he stopt me for no reason and told 388 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 7: me to get out, and it was burning hot outside. 389 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 7: He made me stay, say, stand right here in front 390 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 7: of his car while he ran my license and found nothing, 391 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 7: and he sought my identification that I had a chaplain's badge, 392 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 7: that I worked with law enforcement. So as she told 393 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 7: him right there that I'm no one you need to 394 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 7: be concerned about. But he treated me like he would 395 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 7: anyone else that was a person of color, and it 396 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 7: was obviously what was happening. It made me feel uncomfortable, 397 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 7: and for a moment I had a moment like, ah, 398 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 7: here we go, because of course we've been taught well, 399 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 7: you know, the historical five of this country is this, that, 400 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 7: and the other. 401 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 8: But God had to. 402 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 7: Speak to me again and said, my love and my 403 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 7: sacrifice has changed all of this and you're not going 404 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 7: to turn your heart toward those actions. 405 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 8: You're going to represent me. So it's all about a choice, even. 406 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 7: In those moments where you're being mistreated, when you're being 407 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 7: done wrong. Yes, we have a history, but history is 408 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 7: just that history so that you can know it and 409 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 7: not repeat it. 410 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 8: That's the idea of it, which will make history not 411 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 8: repeat this. 412 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: So what would you say, Bishop to someone who's watching 413 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: that they just can't whatever color you are, but you 414 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: were heard from another race, whatever, and you just can't 415 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: get past it was the wound was so deep. Would 416 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: you just look in the camera minister to them right 417 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: now and talk about why the love of God and 418 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: forgiveness is so important for us. 419 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 7: Jesus was wounded for our transgressions and bruised for our 420 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 7: iniquitous He died for people that rejected him while he 421 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 7: was dying, and get this, they were his own people, yes, 422 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 7: but yet he did not have anyone take his life, 423 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 7: but he laid it down and sacrifice it for us. 424 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 8: So if the Lord Jesus Christ. 425 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 7: Himself can love and forgive despite what we have done, 426 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 7: what we continue to do, or what we will do 427 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 7: in the future, what makes you any better that, no 428 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 7: matter how deep the wound is, if you claim the 429 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 7: love of Jesus Christ and that Christ is in your life, 430 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 7: you have to forgive, You have to release the past, 431 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 7: and you have to be a platform messenger of how 432 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 7: we must move forward in unity today. 433 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: That's so good. And you know, if you're watching today 434 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: and for whatever reason you just stopped your listening and 435 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: you don't know, Jesus, how important is that decision? And 436 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: would you just lead them in a prayer and we'll 437 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: repeat after you and give everybody an opportunity. I know 438 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: what kind of caught job guard there's day right there, 439 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 1: because I'm just telling you the Holy spirit's knocking on 440 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: your door right now, and he's wanting to change your life, 441 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: and he's the one that can really set you free 442 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: from what we're talking about. 443 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 7: Jesus says, the day you hear my voice, heart and 444 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 7: not your heart. He's whispering to you now, saying, come 445 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 7: to me, embrace a love that is everlasting. You may 446 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 7: feel empty, hopeless and abandoned, but Christ is ready to 447 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 7: receive you. Just said, Lord Jesus, Lord Jesus, I believe. 448 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 7: I believe that you came you live. He died, you 449 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 7: ascend it and you will soon return. Serious that I 450 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 7: accept you today. That's my saving Lord. If you repeated 451 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 7: those words, welcome to the family. 452 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: Amen. Amen. And you know what, that is the most 453 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: important prayer that you could ever pray. And it's amazing 454 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: because all of us have prayed it and we know 455 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: that it's life changing. It doesn't mean that everything is 456 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: going to be perfect, but it means that we're never 457 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: alone again. What about that? 458 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 8: Right? 459 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 7: And that's the thing is And it's not perfect because 460 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 7: we're lifing. We're in a world that's not perfect. We're 461 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 7: in a world with wickedness and cruelty. But when you 462 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 7: have a relationship with Christ, it gives you confident in 463 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 7: that world to know that this is not the end. 464 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 7: The hope there is a hope. If you only have 465 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 7: hope in this life, your men, most men, But if 466 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 7: you have hope that a life that is coming, that's everlasting, 467 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 7: is full of His glory, then that gives you the 468 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 7: encouragement to keep going and keep moving. 469 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: What about encouraging people that are watching say they're maybe 470 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: not called into ministry or not to be a pastor 471 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: or whatever, but God has a calling on their life, 472 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: and he is really calling the body of Christ to 473 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: infiltrate this arena that has been plagued with darkness. What 474 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: would you say to encourage them? And are you doing 475 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: that and trying to build raise up young men and 476 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: women to get involved in what's going on in the 477 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: world today. 478 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 8: That's exactly what I'm doing right now. 479 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 7: I'm mentoring youth of all ages in my community. Within 480 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 7: my church, I run various programs that deal with at 481 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 7: risk youth, getting them out of the idea that they 482 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 7: have to conform to their environment. But they can dream 483 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 7: bigger and spread the dream and effect change. And I 484 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 7: want to say to you today, everybody's not apostle, prophety, vanders, 485 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 7: pastor teacher, but all of us are menisis of reconciliation. 486 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 8: While your attorney or doctor. 487 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 7: You know, whatever your profession is, you need to take 488 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 7: your life, your witness to the marketplace and let your 489 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 7: story change somebody's heart. 490 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: So good, that's so good, you know. Bishop. 491 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 5: One thing that I truly believe in is legacy. And 492 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 5: I believe you know Dorothy here and Dorothy's story and 493 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 5: actually witnessing things that Dorothy talked about and what not. 494 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: Witnessing what you talked about. 495 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 5: But we just because we were raised a certain way, 496 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 5: does it mean that we can't say, hey, it stops 497 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 5: with me. And generationally, if we've come from you know, 498 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 5: somebody that's kind of put people in their box, we 499 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 5: can say, you know, it ran in the family, told 500 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 5: it ran into me, and the buck stops here. And 501 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 5: I think, could you speak to people who maybe are 502 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 5: having trouble with that right now? 503 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 7: I mean I came a Bettal family that was affected 504 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 7: by Jim Crow and segregation and all those different things. 505 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 7: But I watched my grandmother still in all of that, 506 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 7: teach us to love. My father was a social justice 507 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 7: advocate for the fire department and he fought so black 508 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 7: men could get in position, and my uncle was the 509 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 7: first black fire chief of Orlando, Florida as a result 510 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 7: of it. And what that uses it allows me to 511 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 7: use that to say is that change comes. 512 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 8: It may take a long time, but it comes. 513 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 7: And instead of going backwards, let's move forward and not 514 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 7: repeat history, but make history by teaching your children the 515 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 7: right way. And I teach my children to respect and 516 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 7: love all mankind and not just love black children, love 517 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 7: white children. Asian Shooter Hispanic children. They are yellow, black 518 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 7: and white. They're precious in his side. 519 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: Good so good. 520 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: You know. 521 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,239 Speaker 3: I think about your analogy of the bridge, and there 522 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: are people who just refuse to go over the bridge. 523 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: They want to. 524 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 3: Stay where they are, even though the other side may 525 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: have more love opportunity, they're afraid to cross the bridge. 526 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 2: And then I was saying about in. 527 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 3: Their swinging bridges and covered bridges and bridges over traffic, 528 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 3: bridges over rivers. But the key is step on the 529 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 3: bridge and walk to the other side to make the connections. 530 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 2: Just applaud what you're doing. I think it is awesome and. 531 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 7: It's funny you would say that that we and Salmon 532 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 7: brought everybody to the Alabama Bridge, to the bridge builders 533 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 7: and white black, and everybody walked across that bridge, stood 534 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 7: on the bridge and polls, ask forgiveness for our forefathers, 535 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 7: ask forgiveness for actions of the past, and about it. 536 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 8: We're moving forward. Yeah, it was. 537 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 2: Feutiful for many of them, and they did it. 538 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: And then it's not about us. 539 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 6: We're used to make that different. 540 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: Exactly, what about just even like inviting people over us. Yeah, 541 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: in your neighborhood that looked different than you. I mean 542 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: you think about we could really change the world if 543 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: we paid attention to this right. 544 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 7: And it's all about intentionality. And it starts with you, 545 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 7: like you said, in your neighborhood, in your circle, there's 546 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 7: somebody does not look like you, did not come from 547 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 7: where you came from, and you can sit down and 548 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 7: eat with them and get to note them and get 549 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 7: an understanding of their life and build a relationship. 550 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 8: It starts with a conversation. 551 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 7: The woman at the well had a conversation with Jesus 552 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 7: and to change your life. 553 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 9: Have you noticed that within your church body, that they 554 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 9: are interacting with each other among the different cultures, ethnics, yes, 555 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 9: and different things. 556 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 7: Yes, And it is very intentionally. I mean we fellowship 557 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 7: outside of church. They built relationships where they go over 558 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 7: to one another's homes and they experienced life together. And 559 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 7: it all started because I said, this is a church 560 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 7: of love and I won't accept anything else. I will 561 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 7: actually ask you to leave if you bring anything else 562 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 7: up in here but the love of Christ. 563 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: Well, we are out, and Tom, it's been such an 564 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: interesting conversation. I hope you have been encouraged by it. 565 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: I hope you've been blessed by it. But I want 566 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: you to remember that God sent Jesus, of course, as 567 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: the ultimate bridge builder. Through his death and resurrection, Jesus 568 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: made a way for us to have eternal life. Some 569 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: people say that he reached his holy hand up to 570 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: God and joined the sinful hand of man together by 571 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: his sacrifice on the cross. That's what he did for you. 572 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: And if you prayed that prayer, what he did at Calvary, 573 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: and he shed his blood for our sins, that's why 574 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: you can be forgiven, and that's why you can be 575 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: joined to a holy God. Bible talks about how the 576 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: veil was rent from the top to the bottom. No 577 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: more did we have to go through a priest, but 578 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: we could go directly to the Lord ourselves. And you 579 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: can do that today. Well, if you need prayer today, 580 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: there's a prayer line number on the screen with all 581 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: those wonderful prayer partners Dorothy's talking about, and you can, 582 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: of course, if you prayed that prayer. I'd love to 583 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: send you the Book of John. It's the Gospel of 584 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: John from the Bible. It's a great place to start. 585 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: And that's just our free gift to you. But I 586 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: do want to thank Bishop Kelvin Cobaris for joining us today. 587 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: For more, you can visit him online at Facebook dot 588 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: com slash New Life Church. And as always, make sure 589 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: to follow us on all social media and subscribe to 590 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: our YouTube channel for full episodes and exclusive content. Let 591 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: us know how table Talk is touching your life. We 592 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: love hearing from you. Of course, you can also listen 593 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: to the Joni Table Talk podcast, available now on all 594 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: the major platforms. But I want to thank you bishop 595 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: for being here. Thank you, ladies, this was great fun conversation. 596 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what heaven is going to be diverse, okay, 597 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: I mean everybody is going to be every kind of 598 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: color in Creed and but the one thing we have 599 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: in common is the Cross. We all met at the Cross, 600 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: and because of what Jesus did, we will see each 601 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: other up there for sure. Well, we'll see you next time. 602 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: God bless you. Continue to call if you need prayer. 603 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: We love you. By backwards today, are we actually in 604 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: a recession economic passimism? It is still very much there. 605 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 9: Supreme Court decided to overturn the bulls and. 606 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 11: This landmark rule and making same sex needle cities in 607 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 11: America on edge as violence erupts among protesters, latest sign 608 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 11: that we may be headed. 609 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: For a recession for racial justice. 610 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 11: Continue the fight against climate change, unleashing a Twitter. 611 00:28:52,360 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: Variety, they are full of light. Well, you know, it's 612 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: hard to stay hopeful when there's so much bad news, 613 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: from global instability to natural disasters. But today's guest sheds 614 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: light on how these events may carry a profound prophetic message, 615 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: inspiring the church to rise with boldness in this critical hour. 616 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: But before we get to that, join me around the table. 617 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: As April Simons, who's ready to rise to the challenge, 618 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 1: sounded like Marcus lam I am. I'm ready, and I'm 619 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: ready for this. I love being informed, Yes for sure. 620 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: Dorothy Newton, how are you doing so good? 621 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 6: You can't never get enough information? I mean I learned 622 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 6: so much from here, you know. I don't watch the 623 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 6: news often, I must say, but when I come here, 624 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 6: I'm always updated, and I'm so glad because then it's factual. 625 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 5: You know. 626 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: That's what's neat about the Bible is that it is prophetic, 627 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: and God will speak to his prophets. I mean before 628 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: anybody else a lot of times about what's going to happen. 629 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 12: And I do watch the news because I want to 630 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 12: say up to date what's going on. But it's even 631 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 12: more fun to get to hear prophetic voices. Can you 632 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 12: give their insight and break down of current events? And 633 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 12: that's what we're gonna do today at the table, for. 634 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: Sure, for sure. Rebecca lamb Weiss, how are you? I'm 635 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: always happy to be here. Yeah, and are you excited 636 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: about our guests? 637 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 8: Oh? 638 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's great. He is great. Cindy Murdoch, Hey are 639 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: you doing? 640 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 9: I'm doing really good? And I kind of diddo with 641 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 9: Rachel there, Yeah, did I do? I love watching the news, learning, 642 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 9: being aware and then when you see the Bible prophetic 643 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 9: word come, that just confirm absolutely what's going on. 644 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: You s don't need to watch in these twenty four. 645 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 9: No, no, no, never ever, only enough because you know what 646 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 9: keeps going over my spirit, Jesus has come. People, get ready, 647 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 9: we'll be going home. 648 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 7: Well. 649 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: You know he is a powerful prophetic voice who we 650 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: are always glad to welcome back to the table. Please 651 00:30:51,280 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: welcome my dear friend Joseph ze Hello, Hello, Hello, the 652 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: be with you all. 653 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 13: Welcome to Thanks, this is great. 654 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: IV me Joseph. You know, just as the sons of 655 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: Issachar discerned the times and seasons. Joseph C joins us 656 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: today to reveal God's heart for the season ahead and 657 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: explain why prayer is our greatest weapon in these challenging times. 658 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: I want to get to a lot of these quickly, 659 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: but also wanted you to kind of explain to our 660 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: audience what is a prophet in being used prophetically And 661 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: I know a lot of times that term is used loosely. 662 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: Just to give us a little definition of that so 663 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: people can understand. 664 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 14: Well very quickly. We know that prophecies available for every believer. 665 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 14: They can grow in it. First Corinthians fourteen. A prophet 666 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 14: is a responsibility with that gift to a segment of 667 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 14: the body of Christ. 668 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 13: First Corinthians, chapter nine. 669 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 14: It talks about paulse that I was not an apostle 670 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 14: to others, but I am to you. Meaning there's territorial assignments, 671 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 14: there's jurisdiction, and prophets are called the equip and edified 672 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 14: the body with that prophetic gift. 673 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: And I know my dear friend who has graduated heaven, 674 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: John Paul Jackson. I know you admired him, but you 675 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: talked about that for those who who operating in the 676 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: office of a prophet. There's usually a real pruning and 677 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: reforming the high before God really uses them. It's true, 678 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: and you went through that, right. 679 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 13: I certainly did, Joni. 680 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 14: I went through years of it, and I don't even 681 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 14: know how to describe it, but I guess God calls 682 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 14: prophets and he really takes them through a process to 683 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 14: refine them so their voice can be trusted and honestly, 684 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 14: so the Lord can trust you. He searches to find 685 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 14: faithful people. The eyes of the Lord go to and fro. 686 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 14: He's looking for faithful people, and you've got to be 687 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 14: busy when he finds you. 688 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: Yes, so you have a few battle scars over there, yes, ma'am. 689 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 13: Yeah, all right, scars, knife fights. 690 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 8: Yes. 691 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: Well, you know, we just kind of want to jump 692 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: in and go go through all of these things that 693 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: the Lord was showing you even before they happened. But 694 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: I know that you talked about the first and second 695 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: quarter of twenty twenty five, right, really important? Why was 696 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: it that the Lord showed you well. 697 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 14: At the beginning or the end of last year. I 698 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 14: had a strong impression that twenty five would be a 699 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 14: year of fire. We were prophesying that. Of course, we 700 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 14: saw the fires break out in California from there. 701 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 13: I believe this. 702 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 14: I believe that the enemy wants to induce some kind 703 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 14: of dirty nuclear bombs, something that would take place in 704 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 14: the US riots, fires, more issues, economic turmoil. But the 705 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 14: Lord showed me if we can get through quarter one 706 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 14: and quarter two without a major event taking us down. 707 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: January through July, that's correct. Yeah, if we can get 708 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: to July. 709 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 13: If we can get to. 710 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: July, that's the month I was born in. 711 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 13: Come on, come on, there's a word in that for you. 712 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 8: Jonah. 713 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Well, and so this is a thing 714 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: like you have to understand that the Lord doesn't reveal 715 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: these things through the prophets to make us a pray. 716 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: It would be fearful he shows to these things so 717 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: that we can pray. 718 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 13: You can pray. 719 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 14: Imagine that Jesus said in Matthew twenty four, around verse 720 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 14: twenty he said, you know, pray that these things don't 721 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 14: happen on a sabbath or in the winter season. 722 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 13: Pray. 723 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 14: In other words, you can alter the narrative, not the prophecy, 724 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 14: not the word of God, but you can pray and 725 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 14: alter things. 726 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 12: Do you think that there's going to be an economic 727 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 12: crisis because of the tariffs or what do you think 728 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 12: is going to contribute and what does that look like. 729 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 14: I think Blackrock is going to contribute to it. I 730 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 14: think people like that that have been in control now 731 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 14: they're dominance. 732 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 13: Black is well, they. 733 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 14: Control basically every financial aspect, like what is it one 734 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 14: third of the world economy is run by Blackrock something 735 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 14: like that, And because of that, they have this grip, 736 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 14: this stranglehold on the world and there's only a few. 737 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 14: They run the media, they run economics, they run all 738 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 14: this stuff. Now you see Trump coming in, He's letting 739 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 14: Elon off the leash to go do what he's got 740 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 14: to do with Doge. You see this happening, and the 741 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 14: Spiritlard began to show me in advance that they're going 742 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 14: to try to crash the market. You know, when Kamala 743 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 14: was going to get in, they kept the study they 744 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 14: were going to say they were going to lower the 745 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 14: interest rates, and when Trump gets in, they kept them 746 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 14: high and they're keeping them there. The bottom line is, 747 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 14: I believe they're going to induce a stock market crash 748 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 14: if they can. And when that happens, they're going to 749 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 14: blame it on the tariffs. They're going to say, look 750 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 14: what you've voted for. This is where we're going. 751 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 13: Now there's riots happening. 752 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 14: One of the things I'm praying against is that when 753 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 14: we see these illegal migrants and things that are happening, 754 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 14: I'm believing that we will not see an act of 755 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 14: violence induced against them, that they can cause more riots 756 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 14: to break out as they're protesting and things are happening, 757 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 14: so we don't see the blame shifted with that, and 758 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 14: then it turns into chaos. 759 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: So how do people pray? Just give us an example 760 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: of that. 761 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 14: Well, we need to pray Sol ninety one. We need 762 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 14: to begin to pray against these nefarious powers that be. 763 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 14: And the Lord spoke to me clearly about quarter one 764 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 14: quarter two. The church is the deterrent of nuclear issues. 765 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 14: The church is the deterrent of economic complete collapse. The 766 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 14: church is the deterrent. We are the deterrent, and as 767 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 14: we use our authority from the Word of God, we 768 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 14: can stop a lot of this. 769 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: And you have to understand too, that the enemy will 770 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 1: try to distract you, yes from this bigger picture. True, 771 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: and it's really important that the church come together and 772 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: that we in a way that we've never done before. 773 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: It's the hour is so important because we do have 774 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: a window to preach the gospel. Come on, and I 775 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: know the Lord. I mean months ago he I mean, 776 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: I was praying one morning and I actually hurt his 777 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: hands clap and say, I need you to look up here. 778 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: Come on, I need you to listen to what I'm 779 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: telling you to do and pay attention. So we're just 780 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: I mean, we're going to do everything we can to 781 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: get the Gospel around the world to every living creature. 782 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: And I mean, because that's the most important decision you 783 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: can make today is just have you asked Jesus to 784 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: come in your heart? That is the most important prayer 785 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: that you can pray. So I hope you do that 786 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: before the program's over today. Well, a few years ago, 787 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: Joseph Z received a powerful prophetic vision that he sees 788 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: God is going to unleash in the upcoming season. And 789 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: it's already started happening. So let's watch. This is like 790 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 1: from a year ago, I began. 791 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 14: To see smoke in different places. I began to see 792 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 14: ten different cities simultaneously. 793 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 15: Strong winds and bone dry conditions in southern California. I 794 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 15: helped fuel the flames of two new wildfires. 795 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: New wildfires have erupted in southern California. 796 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 15: Both the Palisades and Eaten Fires made their marks at 797 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 15: some of the most devastating fires in California history. Emergency 798 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 15: officials have also faced a nightmare situation with fire hydrants 799 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 15: running out of water. 800 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: Why is there no water in the hydrants? It's all 801 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: literally Is it gonna be different next time? 802 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 8: It has to be. 803 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 16: There's a decapitalist that's happening. This decapitalist ten Decca, the 804 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 16: Decca scenario, ten cities smoking at once, and the lord says, 805 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 16: when de capitalist comes, When the ten comes, the Lord 806 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 16: says five or foolish, five are not and five a 807 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 16: foil in the lapse, and five do not. 808 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 8: But I will raise you. 809 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 16: Up as a light in Goshan in the middle of 810 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 16: this ten Decca de capitalists. Gaushan will be present, Gaushan 811 00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 16: will shine as the ten. 812 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 8: So did Ghoshen shine with light in the middle of 813 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 8: a darkness play? 814 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: Could you have ever imagined that we would see that 815 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 1: tragedy in California, not the. 816 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 13: Way that it happened. 817 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 14: You know, there was a sign when they started removing 818 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 14: all the insurance in the state, especially regarding fire. 819 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 8: But that was a. 820 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: Sign there is a hidden agenda that people just don't 821 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: see in realize. Talk a little bit about who are 822 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: the players in that well. 823 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 13: It starts with a number of characters. 824 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 8: You got. 825 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 14: You've all Noah Harari, who says, you know, we will 826 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 14: put this technology under your skin. Your freedom's are Ovah, Right, 827 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 14: he's a little emaciated guy, needs to get saved. 828 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 13: And then you've got what is his name? 829 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 14: You got the main guy from the World Economic Forum, 830 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 14: Klaus Schwab. 831 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 13: Right, he's like, you will own nothing and you will 832 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 13: love it. 833 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 8: You're going to eat Boges. 834 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 13: You're going to do what I tell you to. 835 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 8: Do this year. 836 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 14: He's a perfect Bond villain. But you see these kind 837 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 14: of characters. Or Bill Gates, who's just really got all this, 838 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 14: you know, devoid of wisdom. Right, he's running around and 839 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 14: he's trying to mechanize another vaccine for everybody and all 840 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 14: of it. And I love the way you've stood against 841 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 14: this stuff, Jony, But Bill Gates and all these type 842 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 14: of players, they're all in league together. Trump comes along. 843 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 14: He's been a wrecking ball before he is now. And 844 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 14: I'm not saying he's the end all answer here. I'm 845 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 14: just saying God is trying to do something because the 846 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 14: righteous have cried out. And I believe when you see 847 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 14: RFK standing up the way he is, I believe seeing 848 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,280 Speaker 14: the power taken away from the who, even the un 849 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 14: and some of these things, we're going to get our 850 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 14: autonomy back and we have a real chance of right 851 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 14: sizing this whole picture. But the power players, they don't 852 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 14: want to go out quietly. They're going to fight hard. 853 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 9: And don't you think it's hard for people to believe 854 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 9: there could be so much evil, so much deceived. 855 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,959 Speaker 13: That's right and. 856 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: It really is. 857 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 13: Yes, Cindy, that's true. 858 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: And we really have to pray. I mean that's the 859 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: word for those of you that are watching, that your 860 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: little prayer warriors so important what you do, intercessors, really 861 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: pray about while we're talking about today, because I think 862 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: the church has got to do. Let's talk about some 863 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: of the things that you mentioned that kind of standout. 864 00:39:59,080 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: Cyber warfare. 865 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 14: Yes, there's cyber warfare that's going to happen that I 866 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 14: believe is really has China behind a lot of that 867 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 14: China's inducing that. Remember when the balloons it's over the 868 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 14: country are doing figure eights over our military basis. And 869 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 14: then we've seen all these drones coming out and they're saying, no, 870 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 14: these are local, and they could be, but I believe 871 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 14: much of that is involved with China. Also, they have 872 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 14: technology they can launch them from the ocean. I've looked 873 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 14: into all this stuff. I want to say one thing 874 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 14: very quickly. It's this Luke thirteen. In Luke thirteen, people 875 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 14: always ask the question, is God judging this nation? 876 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 13: Is God doing this? Is this God's doing? 877 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 8: Well? 878 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 14: The answer is found in one example Luke thirteen with 879 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 14: the Tower of Soloam. In the Tower Saloam, they asked Jesus, 880 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 14: did all these sinners get killed because they were worse 881 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 14: than everybody else? And Jesus said no, there was eighteen 882 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 14: people that died in this major catastrophe. Jesus said no, 883 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 14: unless you all repent, you will all likewise perish. Meaning 884 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 14: bad things happen in society. That is not always the 885 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 14: will of God. It's not always just things happening by 886 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 14: some spiritual force. Some times the powers that be are 887 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,439 Speaker 14: in places that induce evil. You know, I don't think 888 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 14: God called the World Trade Center to fall or any 889 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 14: of those things. When we see these things, we need 890 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 14: to know we are called to be the answer. We're 891 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 14: light in darkness and the world is going to get 892 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 14: darker and darker. But we're here, the Church of Jesus 893 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 14: Christ to stand up again. 894 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: Well in the law of reciprocity, talk a little bit 895 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: about that, because we open doors by what we sow 896 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: and what you've seen taken place in some of these states, etc. 897 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 8: Oh. 898 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,280 Speaker 13: Yeah, it depends on who's in charge. 899 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: You know. 900 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 14: It says in Proverbs that when the righteous rule, the 901 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,760 Speaker 14: people rejoice. When the wicked are in power, the people grown. 902 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 14: And so you're seeing different places have different rules, different 903 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 14: open doors. As you're talking about, they let things happen 904 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 14: in the land, and because of that, we're seeing different 905 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 14: states impacted differently. Sometimes though, we're seeing more unleashing of 906 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 14: evil upon good states than we are the bad because 907 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 14: they want to stomp out good believers. In other words, 908 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 14: North Carolina, for example, the Lord showed me eight days 909 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 14: before that there would be a surge happened in that area. 910 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,240 Speaker 14: I circled that state on the whiteboard. I was praying, 911 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 14: and then I thought it was going to be something 912 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 14: to do with like a bomb or nuclear activity, but 913 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 14: it was a hurricane and it did devastating things there. 914 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 14: But I believe that was weaponized because when you look 915 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 14: into some of this, I know this might sound crazy, 916 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 14: I really believe they use weather as a weapon. And 917 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 14: you can see that with things like harp you see 918 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 14: it with cloud seeding, you see it with all these 919 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 14: things that have been public knowledge for decades. 920 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: And you look at how the government didn't show up, 921 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: especially with the North Carolina. What a Travis, because I 922 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: know we send a lot of help in there to 923 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: try to help, and even send helicopters in to rescue people, 924 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: but they were all saying the same thing, no one 925 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: is coming. 926 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 13: Right, it's crazy. 927 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 14: Let's send all of our money to Ukraine or other places, 928 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 14: but let's not send it to our own people. But 929 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 14: that's changing now and it's happening, and I just really 930 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 14: appreciate the fact that this network reaches out and it 931 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 14: helps people. The way you do and the way you 932 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 14: guys stand with Israel, it is profound. 933 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 12: So another big hot button topic that people are talking 934 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 12: about that you've shared a lot about is UFOs. What 935 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 12: do you see happening in twenty twenty five. 936 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 14: Regarding that twenty twenty five or beyond, I believe they're 937 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 14: going to do what I call ultimate disclosure. I think 938 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 14: they're going to try to normalize UFO and alien life. 939 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 14: There's a great deception in that because eventually they're going 940 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 14: to lead to only one narrative. 941 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 13: They put us here. There is no God. 942 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 14: These creatures put us here, and because of that, they 943 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 14: want to absolutely cause us to fall in with that 944 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 14: and call them our God. 945 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 13: All those things. But there's only three things. I believe 946 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 13: it is one technology we don't understand. It's all over 947 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 13: the air. I believe that's government or corporations. 948 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,479 Speaker 14: Secondly, Project Bluebeam, where they're blasting stuff in the sky 949 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 14: and pretending like the Spider Man movie or number three, 950 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 14: it's real. You got real demonic stuff flying. 951 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 8: Around up there. 952 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 12: So you believe in aliens. 953 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 14: I believe in demonic activity. I believe in fallen angels. 954 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 14: I think that no matter what it is angels, little 955 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 14: green guys, lizard people, whatever it is that shows up, 956 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 14: the harry sasquatch, whatever it is that shows up, Jesus 957 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 14: Christ in Us is greater than that evil and we 958 00:43:59,280 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 14: can overcome it. 959 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 12: You talk about Mark Zuckerberg and free speech, collaborate on that. 960 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 13: Yes, ma'am Rebecca. 961 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 14: It's been so fun doing your podcast, by the way, 962 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 14: so thank you Mark Zuckerberg. What happened with him is 963 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 14: something that the Lord showed me a few years back. 964 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 14: I think it was in twenty twenty one. I was 965 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 14: writing on the whiteboard prophet saying, I saw Elon by Twitter, 966 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 14: and I put Elon musk somebody's going to do this 967 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 14: freedom tech thing, and freedom tech would put pressure on 968 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 14: all the other platforms. Now we're seeing that happen, and 969 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 14: I even mentioned Mark Zuckerberg would be one of the 970 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,240 Speaker 14: guys that would fall in line and say, gee, freedom 971 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 14: of speech is cool again. Maybe you know the tutalitarian 972 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 14: idea and fascism isn't. So we're going to go ahead 973 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 14: and see freedom of speech come back. I believe that 974 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 14: started with the prophetic word that the Lord showed me 975 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 14: when Elon stepped in, that it would lead to a 976 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 14: pressure to make freedom of speech normalized. 977 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 1: Okay, well, you know the tech world is shifting with 978 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 1: changes in social media, and unexpected alliance is emerging. And 979 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 1: before Joseus, he joins us at the board. Yes, we're 980 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 1: sending him to the Let's take another look at the 981 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,959 Speaker 1: prophetic word God gave him in twenty twenty one about 982 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: freedom tech, so we can see how it's unfolding today. 983 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 13: I began to see a new freedom technology. 984 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 14: Okay, Now, I don't know who's going to bring this forward, 985 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 14: but it could be the former president. He might actually 986 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 14: do something like that. I think that would be more 987 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 14: powerful than him even going back in right now, a 988 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 14: freedom tech one way or another. Now, will it come 989 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:26,800 Speaker 14: through the president? 990 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 8: Maybe? 991 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 13: Will it come through Elon and Don Junior and all 992 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 13: these people? 993 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 14: This freedom technology that could come forward, I believe there's 994 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 14: going to be a fresh social media voice of a voice. 995 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 13: Of freedom. In other words, we could be able to speak. 996 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 14: Freely again on an open platform for the public, and 997 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 14: it can't be shut down, censored, or silenced the way 998 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 14: that they would like it to be. This indeed gives 999 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 14: hope because this man here, he's a rebel. He's a 1000 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,800 Speaker 14: little bit of a rebel. I'm not saying that he's godly. 1001 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 14: I'm not saying that everything he does is going to 1002 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 14: be right. There could be a lot of wrong, a 1003 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 14: lot of unrighteousness. Happening, but at least he's not going 1004 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 14: with the narrative of the popular opinion of things. Elon 1005 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 14: Musk may may not be perfect and may not preach 1006 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 14: the gospel and do things the way people are thinking, 1007 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 14: but listen to me, make no mistake about it. He 1008 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,919 Speaker 14: is a reformer and God will continue to speak through 1009 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 14: him and offend the institutions just because of what he 1010 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 14: has going on in him. 1011 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: On Monday, Twitter's board of directors. 1012 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 11: Announced it had agreed to sell the social media company 1013 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 11: to Elon Musk. 1014 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 7: There have been some seismic changes in the tech world 1015 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 7: today that could have far reaching consequences for all of us, 1016 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 7: involving some of the key plays in Silicon Valley. 1017 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 11: Hey everyone, I want to talk about something important today 1018 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 11: because it's time to get back to our roots around 1019 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 11: free expression. On Facebook and Instagram, there's been widespread debate 1020 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,479 Speaker 11: about potential harms from online content. Governments and legacy media 1021 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 11: have pushed to censor more and more. We're going to 1022 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 11: work with President Trump to push back on government around 1023 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 11: the world. They're going after American companies and pushing to 1024 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 11: censor more. 1025 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 1: Well, you know, one of our favorite things to do 1026 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: when we have Joseph z Is to send him to 1027 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: the board, the magic board, to tell us what God 1028 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 1: is showing him. And you know, I think that was 1029 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 1: an important point in understanding that God can use anybody 1030 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 1: he wants to use at anytime he wants to use it. 1031 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 13: Yeah, that's right. It's very important. 1032 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 2: You know. 1033 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 14: I believe that the world is shaking, and there's going 1034 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,919 Speaker 14: to be a lot of shaking that happens. But God 1035 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 14: really wants to speak to us to be forewarn us 1036 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 14: before armed. We know it's coming, so we can pray. 1037 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 14: It's very important. 1038 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 1: All right, Well just take it away. We want to learn. 1039 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 14: Okay, Johnny, I'm going to go here and just here's 1040 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 14: what I've seen. So I'm going to draw this the 1041 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 14: best I can. And you know, when we're doing this, 1042 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,479 Speaker 14: pray for us, because you know, we work. 1043 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 13: We know in part, we prophesy in part. But we're 1044 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,399 Speaker 13: trying to help you. So you can pray. 1045 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,240 Speaker 14: And I want to say one thing that everybody's watching 1046 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 14: right now here on table talk. First of all, God 1047 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 14: doesn't show these things to us to put us in 1048 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 14: fear or shaking. 1049 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,760 Speaker 13: You need to rise to meet these things with faith. Okay. 1050 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,800 Speaker 14: So this is why we do it, and I promise 1051 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 14: you there's hope at the end of this. But let 1052 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 14: me show you some things. They're a little negative. 1053 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:07,320 Speaker 13: But let me go into this. 1054 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,439 Speaker 14: First of all, I want to say, over the years, 1055 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 14: I've had this vision where I've seen this type of 1056 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 14: picture over and over again where the USA other nations 1057 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 14: are involved. I've seen it go down at thirty sixty 1058 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 14: to one hundredfold in a time of darkness. Okay, it's 1059 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 14: been difficult. Then I see us coming back at thirty 1060 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:31,280 Speaker 14: sixty and one hundredfold back and I see the new America. 1061 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 13: That's the word I keep seeing over the future. 1062 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 14: Now, there's so much we can talk about with it, 1063 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 14: but I really want to just kind of get to 1064 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 14: what I've seen recently. As I was praying, I some 1065 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,400 Speaker 14: time ago saw this storm on the land, this very 1066 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:45,280 Speaker 14: difficult storm. 1067 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 13: All of that. 1068 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 14: I was praying because people keep asking me, they keep asking, so, 1069 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 14: where are we are? We have sixty to one hundred fold, 1070 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 14: where are we in this time of difficulty as we 1071 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 14: cascade into darkness? 1072 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 13: Where's it at? 1073 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 14: So one of the things I've seen recently is I 1074 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 14: was praying for a number of reasons, I saw this 1075 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,839 Speaker 14: word on money, that this time would be a time 1076 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 14: where money would begin to shake. Money, economy, all of 1077 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 14: this would begin to shake. And the powers of darkness, 1078 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 14: people that are in high offices, places where they can 1079 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 14: make decisions, they don't want to be unseated by the 1080 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 14: new form of authority that's coming in meeting the new 1081 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 14: administration in the United States. They want to cause a 1082 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,320 Speaker 14: crash to take place with the economic setting that's happening 1083 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 14: in our land. And because of that, they're going to 1084 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 14: do a variety of things. First of all, they're going 1085 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 14: to blame it on tariffs if they can pull this off. 1086 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,320 Speaker 14: Now again, all of this, we are the absolute deterrent 1087 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 14: to this. Through prayer, we can stand against these things. 1088 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 14: But I believe tariffs will be. 1089 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 13: One of the things that they blame on all of this. 1090 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 13: Oh look what he did. The tariffs are happening. 1091 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 14: Then I believe they're going to try to induce riots, 1092 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 14: and I think this will come before middle during whatever 1093 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 14: they can pull off through this process. And then I 1094 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 14: believe you get to remember, all of this is going 1095 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 14: to be the ultimate f false flag event. And you say, 1096 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,399 Speaker 14: why is it a false flag event? Well, because these 1097 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 14: powers that be are going to do everything they can. 1098 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 14: One sign we're already seeing is that when you saw 1099 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 14: that Kamala might get in, they were going to lower 1100 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 14: interest rates for her. They're going to keep them very 1101 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 14: low and keep things rolling. All of a sudden, she 1102 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,840 Speaker 14: doesn't win, and they raised the interest rates. And we 1103 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 14: see that happening in this place. So as we're walking 1104 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 14: through this whole process, and we're recognizing that, we see 1105 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 14: this momentum happening and things are taking place. I call 1106 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 14: this a money quake. I believe this is the big 1107 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 14: thing they want to bring forward. But there is hope 1108 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 14: at the end of it. And when I'm looking at 1109 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 14: all of it, I believe God is saying, remember, when 1110 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,919 Speaker 14: this happens, keep your eyes on him, because they want 1111 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 14: to induce a chicken little spirit. And you say, what 1112 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 14: are you talking about? Chicken little is where they said 1113 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 14: the sky is falling, The sky is falling. All of 1114 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 14: it's terrible, and they want to blame this new administration. 1115 00:50:58,680 --> 00:50:59,320 Speaker 13: They want to blame it. 1116 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 14: But I'm here to say, if we begin to lean 1117 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 14: into this with great capacity, we will come to the 1118 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,879 Speaker 14: other side. And ultimately, what I believe the Lord wants 1119 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,400 Speaker 14: to do is he wants to bring us to a 1120 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 14: place where we get through it real quick. In the 1121 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 14: middle of it, they want to induce the capitalists also 1122 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 14: what is to capitalist While you heard the word earlier 1123 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 14: deca meaning ten ten cities burning. They want to try 1124 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 14: to bring this into this picture. All of this is 1125 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 14: tied together. But I believe as the intercessors pray, there's 1126 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,880 Speaker 14: nothing more powerful than a grandma praying. There's nothing more 1127 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,800 Speaker 14: powerful than that. I'm telling you, they will take the 1128 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 14: devil to the woodshed. Okay, But when we're looking at 1129 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,840 Speaker 14: this whole picture, here's what this spirit the Lord showed me. 1130 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 14: If we can get through this, if we can go 1131 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,239 Speaker 14: through this next four years of redemptive instability, we're going 1132 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 14: to come to a time twenty twenty eight and beyond 1133 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 14: where I see the Lord making an opportunity to solve. 1134 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:50,280 Speaker 13: The national. 1135 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 8: Debt. 1136 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 2: Wow. 1137 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,359 Speaker 13: Now that's quite a statement, I know. But the Lord 1138 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,280 Speaker 13: is saying there's a way it's going to be creative. 1139 00:51:58,320 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 14: I don't know if this involves crypto or what's going 1140 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 14: on here, but something is happening where the spirit of 1141 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 14: the Lord is saying, God wants to make it so 1142 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,839 Speaker 14: America does not burn in all the death that it owes. 1143 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,880 Speaker 14: And right now there's a supernatural momentum on people that 1144 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 14: will cause them to get revelation break through this. And 1145 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,359 Speaker 14: what we've got to do is keep striking and see 1146 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 14: the spirit of God bring strength and victory through this. 1147 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 13: And this is our job right now. 1148 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 1: What about flu pandemic? Are they going to do all 1149 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 1: of it? Is that going to come back up as 1150 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 1: we I. 1151 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 14: Think the flu is going to be a major thing. 1152 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 14: As we're talking about with fog, we see that. I 1153 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,399 Speaker 14: believe the alien narrative is going to continue to rise 1154 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 14: up more and more as we were talking about earlier. 1155 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 14: Anything they can bring about to bring about fear and distraction. 1156 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 14: A word I have for our audience all the time, 1157 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 14: especially for the day Star audience today is this when 1158 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,919 Speaker 14: you see the big news, pay attention to the small news. 1159 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 14: A lot of this stuff is false flags, the crashes, 1160 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 14: the things that are happening some time ago. You recognize 1161 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 14: all of that can be a false flag, and they're 1162 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,440 Speaker 14: doing something else under the veil, And so we've got 1163 00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 14: to keep discerning and keep watching. 1164 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,320 Speaker 1: Can you explain what a false flag is? 1165 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 14: A false flag is when something's happening but it was 1166 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 14: on purpose. So they do it on purpose to make 1167 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 14: the news, and everybody look at that while they're pulling 1168 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 14: something else off over here. 1169 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,959 Speaker 1: What are the big things that we should be looking at. 1170 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 14: When we're looking at this. We need to pay attention 1171 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 14: to the economic talks that are happening with World Economic Form. 1172 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 14: What are they really going to do? We need to 1173 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 14: begin to look at all these areas where people are 1174 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 14: operating in powers that once we're shaking the earth, and 1175 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,319 Speaker 14: we need to see what their next steps are. If 1176 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 14: we pull back from the who, if we pull back 1177 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 14: from the economic form, if we pull back from this 1178 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,759 Speaker 14: Paris climate accord stuff, and we begin to get autonomous 1179 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 14: and we truly drill for oil, we're going to start 1180 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:38,240 Speaker 14: to see this unfold. 1181 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 1: All right. See all the ladies in the table are climbing. 1182 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 1: Come on back over, Joseph. 1183 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 13: Okay, yes, ma'am. 1184 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:48,239 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is that you know, you can't 1185 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 1: just do a one to eighty turn. It's a slow 1186 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: turn it and so a slow turn would mean the 1187 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 1: first six seven months. Yes, we're trying to fix some 1188 00:53:59,160 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 1: things that are broken. 1189 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 14: It took us a while to get here. Yeah, it's 1190 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 14: going to take a little while to get out of this. 1191 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,719 Speaker 14: But this is where intercession, this program and so many 1192 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,800 Speaker 14: things keep your hope there. When you see difficulty, and 1193 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 14: if we see a true economic thing where they start 1194 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,839 Speaker 14: pulling the plugs and the economy starts going down, get 1195 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 14: in faith because I see a roar coming back at 1196 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 14: the end of that. If we don't lose hope and 1197 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 14: we stand through it. 1198 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,400 Speaker 1: Yes, I love that. Now, Joseph, we just have a 1199 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,240 Speaker 1: minute or two life. Would you just take a moment 1200 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,799 Speaker 1: for those watching. Yes that if tomorrow you were to die, 1201 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 1: you wouldn't know where you go or end up. And 1202 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 1: the Lord wants to make sure that you're ready to 1203 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 1: meet him. Talk just a quick second and lead him 1204 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:36,879 Speaker 1: in a prayer. 1205 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 3: Wa. 1206 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 14: I want to introduce you to my friend Jesus. Jesus 1207 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 14: is Lord. 1208 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,440 Speaker 13: He loves you. There's not a thing you can do 1209 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,799 Speaker 13: about it. You might as well stop running. Give your 1210 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 13: life to him. 1211 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 14: God is not mad at you. He's not coming after you. 1212 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 14: If God wanted to get you, he'd have got you 1213 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 14: by now. Here's the bottom line. Give your life to him. 1214 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 14: We're not offering you the plague. Give your life to Jesus. 1215 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 13: He wants to know you. 1216 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 14: You simply repent to your sins. You repent to your 1217 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 14: way of doing things. Give your life to him. Jesus, 1218 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 14: save me, rescue me. I give you my life and 1219 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 14: He'll rescue you. He'll save you, and I'm telling you 1220 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 14: the greatest days of your life he has in store 1221 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:10,800 Speaker 14: for you. 1222 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 8: Right away. 1223 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,720 Speaker 13: God bless you receive him today. 1224 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,320 Speaker 1: All right, Just that simple, just to say Jesus, just 1225 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 1: call out on his name, say I need you forgive me. 1226 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,479 Speaker 1: Come into my heart and be lord of my life. 1227 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 1: I've tried everything else. I'm going to give you a shot. 1228 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,359 Speaker 1: That's right, and it will change your life forever. Well, 1229 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: we are out of time, but I want you to 1230 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 1: remember that God has not given us a spirit of fear. 1231 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 1: The Bible said, He's given us not a spirit of fear, 1232 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 1: but of power and of love and a sound mind. 1233 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 8: That's right. 1234 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 1: No matter what's happening around us, we can stand firm 1235 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 1: and his promises, trusting that He will guide us, He'll 1236 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 1: protect us and sustain us every step of the way. 1237 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,759 Speaker 1: If you're watching the day and you need prayer, maybe 1238 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 1: you're in a crisis, maybe you're hurting, maybe you're sick. 1239 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,400 Speaker 1: In your body. That's why that number is on the screen. 1240 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 1: We would love to pray for you and encourage you today. 1241 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 1: We have prayer partners are standing by. If you pray 1242 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 1: that prayer. I'd love to send you the Book of John. 1243 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,600 Speaker 1: It's a great place to start in the Bible. You're 1244 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 1: sixty six books. This is one of the books and 1245 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 1: that's absolutely free. It's just our way of getting you 1246 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,240 Speaker 1: started on this journey. Well, I want to thank Joseph 1247 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,839 Speaker 1: Z again for joining us today. For more, you can 1248 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 1: visit him online at Joseph z dot com and is 1249 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,760 Speaker 1: always make sure to follow us on all social media. 1250 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,760 Speaker 1: Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full episodes and exclusive content, 1251 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,319 Speaker 1: and let us know our table Talk is touching your life. 1252 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 1: We love hearing from you. Of course, you can also 1253 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 1: listen to the Johnny Table Talk podcast, available now on 1254 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,319 Speaker 1: all major platforms. And thank you Joseph. Will you come 1255 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,399 Speaker 1: back of course in a few months. Let's see where 1256 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 1: we are. 1257 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 13: It's a privilege to you with you, ladies. 1258 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,359 Speaker 1: Thank you, I will well, we thank you for being here. 1259 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,920 Speaker 1: Did jall enjoy us? Okay? So good? Well, continue to 1260 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,399 Speaker 1: call today. That's why that numbers up there. We love 1261 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,280 Speaker 1: you pray. You've been encouraged today. Don't be fearful, just pray. Folks, 1262 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,239 Speaker 1: we need you to pray. See next time by Bucke 1263 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:56,720 Speaker 1: for today