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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock Bat. We

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Speaker 1: show that makes the square sharper and makes the wise

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Speaker 1: guys pay attention. I am Chad Milman. I am joined

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Speaker 1: as always by my co host, my companion, Mike Campadre

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Speaker 1: Professional Better Simon Hunter Eto.

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Speaker 2: Simon, Chad.

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Speaker 3: Are we doing, buddy well?

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Speaker 2: Listen?

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Speaker 1: I really want to ask how you're doing because I

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Speaker 1: was on the Eagles last night and it was excruciating.

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Speaker 1: But I know how I felt when the Bears played

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Speaker 1: valiantly and didn't win. If the Bears had played terribly

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Speaker 1: and given it away, I know how I would feel.

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Speaker 2: So this is a safe space. Unload, my friend.

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Speaker 3: It's not a safe space. This is what the people want.

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Speaker 3: They love miserable Eagles fans. I know you sick best.

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Speaker 3: I get it though. I mean, we've we've been on

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Speaker 3: these primetime games and like you know, they're zooming in

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Speaker 3: on these Eagles fans who are just dying like I am,

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Speaker 3: and I get it, like you should basket our misery.

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Speaker 3: We just won the Super Bowl. But yeah, just an awful,

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Speaker 3: awful experience, especially if you had money on the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: They just dominated that game in every way. Uh just

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Speaker 3: could could couldn't stop doing whatever they wanted, running the game,

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Speaker 3: running the ball defensively. The only weakness was Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 3: who just had a total meltdown of a game. Four

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Speaker 3: Hurts is second best quarterback in the NFL. I still

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Speaker 3: stand by it, but heard a lot of noise last

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Speaker 3: night because he had a meltdown, terrible game, And you know,

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Speaker 3: I still think the read on it was correct. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Herbert twelve of twenty six, one hundred and thirty nine

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Speaker 3: one hand anytime. He scrambled on their punch at every time,

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Speaker 3: like they just were. The Chargers were dying to lose

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Speaker 3: that game, and Herts just couldn't help themselves. So in

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Speaker 3: incredible game for professionals. I was with a lot of

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Speaker 3: books went for two and a half all the way

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Speaker 3: down to one by kick. Yeah, and they're all over

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Speaker 3: the under and they needed every bit of those four

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that was that was a sharp game and

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Speaker 3: just a brutal, brutal loss as an Eagles fan, so

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Speaker 3: eating it right now and even worse. I told you,

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Speaker 3: HBO right now has a basic in nd season Hard Knocks,

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Speaker 3: and I can't watch it because it's just been two

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Speaker 3: weeks of hell for Eagles. We were eight and two

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Speaker 3: headed into the hard Knocks. We were now eight and five,

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Speaker 3: losing three straight games, and it's just it's as low

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Speaker 3: next It's gonna be really interesting in the next four weeks.

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Speaker 1: Why can't they block up any scheme to get Barkley

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Speaker 1: any any freedom on any of these interior runs.

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Speaker 3: Out Lane Johnson for multiple weeks and they've lost those

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Speaker 3: three games. He's been out so talk all the time.

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Speaker 3: He's very important. But you know, they were winning queen

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Speaker 3: flip games. They lost Dallas a coin flip game they

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Speaker 3: should have won. They lost his Chargers game of coin

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Speaker 3: flip game they probably should have won. So it's like,

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Speaker 3: once again, Eagles do have a lot of problems, but

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Speaker 3: it's like, you know what, are you gonna bitch about?

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Speaker 3: So it's football. It's just it's these coin flip games

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Speaker 3: and they're just not hitting right now. I just need

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Speaker 3: to sleep, Honestly. I'm just watched that game. Work through

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Speaker 3: that pick was just so egregious. It's just yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Well, we went three and two last week and our

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Speaker 1: five Yale picks from our Sunday morning show. You can

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Speaker 2: We won.

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Speaker 1: I can't even remember who do we win with. We

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Speaker 3: The Jets, I'm sorry, we went.

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Speaker 2: All right, Thursday Night football.

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Speaker 1: Faden teams here Atlanta out of the playoffs, playing for

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Speaker 1: nothing at this point. Who knows who's going to be

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Speaker 1: who knows who's going to be the quarterback. They're four

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Speaker 1: point dogs to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Whoever since Baker

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Speaker 1: same team. They're seven to six, still in first place

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Speaker 1: in the NFC South, but the Banthers they're coming for them. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: their fingernails. This line has moved from five and a

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Speaker 1: half to four and a half to four at hard Rock,

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Speaker 1: even after getting blown out with betting the Falcons against

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Speaker 1: to play this week either. It doesn't make any sense

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's just their models. Maybe keep thinking

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Speaker 3: the Falcons are undervalued and underrated, and we've been talking

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Speaker 1: It hasn't heard us betting chalk Thursday nights historically in

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Speaker 1: feel bad for Justin Herbert. They're winning by guts and guile.

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Speaker 3: is that happens to be a holding call? Holding call?

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Speaker 2: I got well, you know what, you know what.

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Speaker 1: I want to get to the rest, but I want

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Speaker 1: was this game rigged? And all the people who lost

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Speaker 3: Interesting. Yeah, I really like the Chiefs. Again, like last week,

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Speaker 3: I was on them, but everything we talked about just

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Speaker 3: them losing their offensive tackles. There was just didn't make sense,

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Speaker 3: Now they're just totally over. I think they're fifty to

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Speaker 3: makes sense, right, they're just the path for them to

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Speaker 3: just they have to be what they were in the past,

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Speaker 3: which the team that wins close games, and this year

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Speaker 3: they're just not that team. I mean, Andy Reid, it's

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Speaker 1: There's always those games that are the by low Sell High, right,

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Speaker 1: The New York Jets visiting the Jacksonville Jaguars. There are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, That's that's the tough part here. It's I

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Speaker 3: They've been a really good team this year, but they

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Speaker 1: Difference for the Jacks has been Jacobe Myers. Like he

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Speaker 2: I love that this week.

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Speaker 3: I think just because of weather. I give him that

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Speaker 3: It's why once again we hated the Travis Hunter pick.

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Speaker 3: why you take those exact guys. I know, a Duke

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Speaker 3: You're living it for theirs right now. He was. There

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Speaker 3: what this man is done. Turn around this Jaguars team

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Speaker 3: and yeah, like we said, old Jags, they always lose

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Speaker 1: To Buffalo at New England. New England is a one

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Speaker 1: Because if I can get the Bills as an underdog

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen, you ever get nervous before games? Sometimes? What

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Speaker 3: And that's what's so interesting here, Chez. I've talked to

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Speaker 3: a game pick. It's always the plus one plus one

433
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Speaker 3: and a half, yeah, or half even I want to

434
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Speaker 3: be on the Bills. I'm trying to be patient to

435
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Speaker 3: see if it does flip. But I can just take

436
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Speaker 3: a position on them as a dog here because I

437
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Speaker 3: think the public might come in and join them the

438
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Speaker 3: professionals on the Patriots. I just, you know, as much

439
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Speaker 3: as crap you want to give this Patriots team, how

440
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 3: easy of schedule they've had, this Bills team has not

441
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Speaker 3: done anything to make you super confident about them other

442
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Speaker 3: than the fact that they have Josh Allen. Like that's

443
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Speaker 3: just that's where it starts and ends for me in

444
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Speaker 3: this game, where I really when I broke broke it

445
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Speaker 3: down and looked more into it, it's like, this is

446
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Speaker 3: actually a pretty good matchup for this Patriots team. Like

447
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Speaker 3: I could see how these professionals are taking a position

448
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Speaker 3: because it's like they're they're able to put the blinders

449
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Speaker 3: on here Josh Allen, I can't do that. The fact

450
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Speaker 3: that Josh already lost to them this year. You're you're

451
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Speaker 3: in a spot now where I've been talking about this

452
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Speaker 3: cold it is coming people. There is going to be

453
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Speaker 3: a deep freeze, and this is another game up in

454
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Speaker 3: New England. It's going to be cold, cold, cold, So

455
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Speaker 3: that means it's going to be a ton of Josh

456
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Speaker 3: Allen running the ball and a ton of Cook which

457
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Speaker 3: on the flip side, they have their own, you know,

458
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Speaker 3: little version of Josh Allen with May who can run

459
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Speaker 3: the ball. I still think they're gonna play that way offensively.

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Speaker 3: I think they're still going to try to be pushing

461
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Speaker 3: the ball downfield. So really really interesting see what McDaniels

462
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Speaker 3: does with May here and then justin Tiel making this

463
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Speaker 3: game because it could be cold, could be really windy

464
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Speaker 3: and freezing in a little bit snow, and I just

465
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Speaker 3: once again lines up for josh An who's played in

466
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Speaker 3: these exact spots a lot and he tends to thrive

467
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Speaker 3: in it. So I love love this this game. This

468
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Speaker 3: is one of my fair games, just because it's it's

469
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Speaker 3: so split between professionals, and I'm interested what the public

470
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Speaker 3: does with it because right now, like you said, the tickets,

471
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Speaker 3: the money, it's so even, we've not really seen the

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Speaker 3: public tickets stand here, and I'm hoping they come on

473
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Speaker 3: the Patriots side, so maybe we get the Buffalo Bills

474
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Speaker 3: as a dog here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Patriots have had some offensive issues as of

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Speaker 1: late that that could be an issue, especially when you're

477
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Speaker 1: trying to run the ball with a new offensive line.

478
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Speaker 1: They've only had one game together really before the bye,

479
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Speaker 1: so there are some challenges. They are imperfect, so are

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Speaker 1: the Bills.

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Speaker 3: We know that what the.

482
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Speaker 1: Bills have done the past couple of years is just

483
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Speaker 1: completely transform their offense into a running offense, and like

484
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Speaker 1: it's stuff that the Chiefs haven't done.

485
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Speaker 2: And so the Bills are built to survive.

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Speaker 1: In cold weather where it's going to come down to

487
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen and what he can do with his legs

488
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Speaker 1: and how they can run the ball. Everyone should remember

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Speaker 1: to get their faucets, you know, just a little trickle

490
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Speaker 1: so your pipes don't freeze. It's really important because I've

491
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Speaker 1: had my pipes freeze and it's been ugly.

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Speaker 3: You're in the Northeast, and I just, once again, I

493
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 3: can't get over this. If you're a Patriots thing where

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Speaker 3: the Pros, but even your team, which I am truly

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Speaker 3: shocked by. I really thought this was going to be

496
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Speaker 3: a two and a half three number on this Bills team,

497
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Speaker 3: and they've totally come in and back to their team

498
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Speaker 3: early here. So you know, if this was my team,

499
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Speaker 3: I'd be very excited because you know, you're eleven and

500
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Speaker 3: two here and you win this, it's over right. They've

501
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 3: they've locked up the division, yes, this team, So it's

502
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Speaker 3: really interesting. As you said, you're on Tuesday effect that

503
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Speaker 3: the early money he's been the Patriots. But I'm dugging.

504
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 3: I believe Josh Allen Bill's he ain't dead yet. I

505
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Speaker 3: think he's gonna give him one last fight here.

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Speaker 1: For the record, as of right now, it's supposed to

507
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Speaker 1: be low thirties, but it could be fifteen. But right now,

508
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 1: six days out, whatever it is, the temperature at game

509
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: time is supposed to be very low thirties.

510
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I got a weather guy. He said. He

511
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Speaker 3: claims he's pretty good. He claims there's gonna be a big, big,

512
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Speaker 3: freeze coming, so it's gonna be really cold on the

513
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Speaker 3: East Coast for a lot of these games.

514
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Speaker 1: Well, Sunday is not my dog walking day because I'm

515
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Speaker 1: so busy working, so I'm gonna get out.

516
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Speaker 2: Of that one. Arizona at Houston.

517
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Speaker 1: Houston is a nine and a half point favorite, So,

518
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Speaker 1: I mean, the only time the Cardinals have been blown

519
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: out this year has been when they played teams in

520
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Speaker 1: the NFC West. Literally every other game has been four

521
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: points or less, and arguably the game against the Rams

522
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: last week was a low point. It was at home

523
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Speaker 1: for the Cardinals, unlike their game against the Niners. Unlike

524
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Speaker 1: their game against the Seahawks. They could not blame turnovers

525
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: and flukes in the first fifteen minutes of the game

526
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: that put them behind the.

527
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Speaker 2: Eight ball for their loss.

528
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Speaker 1: They just got dominated and decimated at every turn. They

529
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Speaker 1: were just terrible, to the point where the Rams had

530
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Speaker 1: their backups in, you know, with a quarter left. This

531
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: thing started moving on Sunday night from seven and a

532
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Speaker 1: half to nine and a half. With the majority of

533
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: the back the books the tickets on Houston right now

534
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: makes sense. They could get some players back. Marvin Harrison

535
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: Junior could come back Trey Benson, their running back who's

536
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: been out since Week four, could come back. They could

537
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Speaker 1: get some help back on the offensive line the Cardinals.

538
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: I mean, am I crazy to say this is a

539
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: by low sell high on the Cardinals?

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Speaker 3: No, but again it's these are the This is exact

541
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 3: game we get in troubled with because obviously when I

542
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 3: first thought, I loved it as well too. It's like

543
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 3: Arizona this exact type of games they back door and

544
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 3: stay in it, where the Houston they're not a Juggernau

545
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 3: of an offense like they're not. No, they're not comparable

546
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 3: to these other offenses that have rolled and blown out

547
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 3: this Arizona team. So I'm with you. It's my My

548
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 3: biggest issue is like, can we can we see the

549
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 3: scenario where we get burned here? Because it's obviously a

550
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 3: really bad Arizona team that is horrible defensively and they

551
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: could be burned here by Marx and CJ and all

552
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 3: the things that we think you Uston could do offensively.

553
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 3: Of course, but I think it's a nice spot they got.

554
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 3: We have a Houston team that just slaid the demon

555
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 3: the Chiefs. Like this is if you read anything lead

556
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 3: up to that game. Houston basically circled this one all

557
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 3: year because of that play, the loss, and they were

558
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: just so fired up about that game. And like we said,

559
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: it doesn't really feel like they won that game. It

560
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 3: feels like they got it. They did, but it feel

561
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 3: like a little bit of getted to them. They stole

562
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: that game in many ways. And this is being priced

563
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 3: into it. Like you said, this numbers move two points.

564
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 3: They the books are bracing for a ton of teasers,

565
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: all of it coming on this Texans team. So right now,

566
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 3: one book, one of the more public books, has already

567
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 3: hit ten. So that's why, like people, I think you

568
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 3: might be able to be patient here, Yeah, you might

569
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 3: be able to get to the tents here on Cardinals.

570
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 3: And at that number, I got no issue, no issue

571
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 3: taking this Cardinals team. So I'm already dreading it. This.

572
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 3: I already can see our future comes Sunday ten and

573
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: a half. In contest, can't avoid that because we've just

574
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 3: seen it. Jacoby Brissett his offense, you know, even against

575
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: good defense, he tends to move the ball and when

576
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 3: you know he's playing dead for two or three quarters,

577
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 3: he does eventually come the live for two or three drives,

578
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: it moves the ball, so it's it's a tough, tough

579
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: bet chat where it's like I can't avoid it. I

580
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 3: knew I was gonna like it as soon as I

581
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 3: saw it. And the fact that it's moved so much

582
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 3: once it hits that ten number, like it is right now,

583
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 3: as soon as we got off this call, I'm gonna

584
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 3: go Hame with that number.

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00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, we kind of have to. Like I said, there's

586
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: a couple of bi lows sell high spots that and

587
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,479
Speaker 1: we've won with these this season. Like it's not like

588
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: even though favorites keep winning at big numbers, it's not

589
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: like we haven't found the thread of the needle on these.

590
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: We just did it with New Orleans against the Bucks.

591
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: Obviously not the same situation, but the big numbers do cover.

592
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: The Panthers just covered against the Rams at ten and

593
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: a half. We just saw the Raiders covered it and

594
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: a half against the Broncos. Fluky things happen. Big numbers

595
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: are just hard to cover. It's just you know, like

596
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: at the end of the game. We've seen it so

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00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: many times with the Titans, betting against the Titans, Like

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Speaker 1: when you have a decent quarterback and you've got some

599
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00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: the team is just playing a shell defense. They don't

601
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Speaker 1: have to worry about losing the game. That's where bad

602
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: things happen for favorites.

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00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget they played what two and a half weeks

651
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: ago and Burrow was awesome, outscoring the Ravens twenty to

652
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: seven in the second half. The Bengals should have won

653
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: against the Bills last week. The Ravens are reeling. If

654
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: they have any pride, this is a get right spot

655
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: for this defense is tragic, and you've talked about where

656
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: it seems like players are starting to fade, like Mark

657
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: Andrews has been non existent as a weapon for the

658
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: Ravens and they're really struggling on the outside. And Lamar

659
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: Jackson could play more games than any quarterback. Ever, it

660
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: seems like the past six years at least, it is

661
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: banged up NonStop. How do you bet on the Ravens here?

662
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: It's Baltimore, gentlemen. The gods will not save you. Yeah,

663
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 3: I don't know what to do with it. My model

664
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: likes it for the Bengals that basically has this game

665
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: at a pick, so it's like they're pretty much power

666
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: of the exact same team. Now that Joe Bros Back,

667
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: that's how I should say how bad the Ravens are

668
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 3: and how much better the Bengals are than I guess

669
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 3: we perceive. But I wanted to be on the Ravens.

670
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: I feel like this is good back time to bet

671
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: the Ravens so we can talk I guess about it

672
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: again on Thursday because we're city right now. I just

673
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: I just I don't know what to do with this one.

674
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: Like I know, probably supposed to be on the Bengals.

675
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: The model is right like two and a half. That's

676
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: a good number for the Bengals. Hard Rocks already moved

677
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: it too, so clearly the professionals are going to back

678
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: this Bengals side. But I just I can't quit this

679
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 3: Ravens team. But I told you there's just there's a

680
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 3: lot of off field drama stuff that's leaking on the

681
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: public right now. This Ravens team, it's just all bad

682
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: in the locker room. It's just there's so many teams

683
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: right now that I just can't imagine how horrible the

684
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 3: locker room pipes are and this is one of them

685
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 3: with this Ravens team. So I know, I know Chat

686
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: we want both want to be on the Ravens. There

687
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: probably should be a tell of us we should probably

688
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: should probably be on the Bengals, and it's probably a

689
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: value number.

690
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: I know, I don't know why.

691
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: It's almost like, look, I had the same feelings last

692
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: week with the Bengals and the Bills. I wanted to

693
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: be on the Bengals. I loved the Bengals in that spot,

694
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: but it felt like such a public dog. And this

695
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: also was going to feel like such a public dog.

696
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: And that's honestly the only thing that's keep me from

697
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: doing it. It just feels too popular to beut the Bengals,

698
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: and I don't want to be popular.

699
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: At all.

700
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: Okay, sometimes again, we won on big, big, the biggest

701
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: chalk better the week. Last week was the Rams, and

702
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 3: we nailed it.

703
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: So nailed it. It does hit Cleveland and Chicago.

704
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: Chicago was a seven and a half point favorite at

705
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: home against the Cleveland Browns. This Bears defense, if it

706
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: cannot get a turnover, it cannot get a stop. Gino Smith,

707
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, Spencer Rattler, Jordan love it doesn't matter who

708
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: the quarterback is, how good they are or how bad

709
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: they are, they all find ways to move the ball

710
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: against the Chicago Bears. And in all of those games,

711
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,959
Speaker 1: all of those games, turnovers were the difference. The only

712
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: difference is that the Packers didn't have any at the

713
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: end of the game and they won. The other teams

714
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: which were bad all did and that's how the Bears

715
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: were able to eke out victories. So if they cannot

716
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: stop anybody, and Shedor Sanders is playing with more and

717
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: more confidence, do we ever go against type and bet

718
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: on this Browns defense as a big underdog when everybody

719
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: still wants to be.

720
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: Backing the Bears.

721
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: Because I will tell you it does feel to me

722
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: like the Bears stock has actually risen after their loss

723
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: in terms of public perception to the Packers because they

724
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: played so well against a good team and if not

725
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: for bad timing, play calling, however you want to measure it,

726
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: they might actually win that game.

727
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're probably right. This probably is the right time

728
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: to jump off this Bear's train. Right, You're now at

729
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 3: seven and a half, Like that's a crazy high number

730
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 3: with a hook and like you talked about this Bears

731
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 3: defensive suspect. But keep bringing up Chad the cold weather.

732
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: I mean Chicago. If East coach is going to be

733
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 3: in the twenties or thirties, what Chicago being the fives, tens, fifteens,

734
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 3: It's going to be freezing at this game. So I

735
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 3: kin kind of might end up backing the Bears just

736
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: because I see an avenue with them offensively, how they

737
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 3: can move, and they've played now this would be their

738
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 3: second week in a row playing in that kind of

739
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: type of gold where Cleveland that wasn't the cold I

740
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: mean should or played really well in it, but you

741
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: kind of saw it and that was not a little fluky,

742
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: but it felt a little fluky. With this Bears team,

743
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 3: it kind of feels exactly like we know what they are.

744
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 3: So it's a great matchup if you want to be

745
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 3: with the professionals. I think they're gonna come on the

746
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 3: Browns at seven and a half. It just feels like

747
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 3: a way too big one, yeah for this Bears team,

748
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: But I could be perspaded into this side. I just

749
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 3: I hate it, like it just it was six and

750
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 3: a half, went to seven. Now it's seven and a half,

751
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: and it's six and a half I could have been

752
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 3: talked to the Bears with seven seven and a half.

753
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 3: I'm I'm probably gonna have to be on the Cleveland

754
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: Eve though I really don't want to.

755
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: It's going to be because you know, in my weather

756
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: app I have Chicago on there, even though I don't

757
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: live there anymore. I always like to know what's going

758
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 1: on there, even though I haven't lived there in thirty

759
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: five years.

760
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: It's going to be.

761
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 3: Zero, right, That's what I mean. There's a big freeze coming,

762
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: so like this is one of the games gonna be

763
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 3: affected by it, and I don't know. It's like it's

764
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 3: it's tough. It's tough to trust their team. I feel

765
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 3: like the Bears are probably the more trustworthy team in

766
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 3: that episceonn Aarrea.

767
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: Do you have you ever seen the movie Planes, Trains

768
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: and Automobiles, Steve Martin.

769
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 3: John Candy, don't call me surely.

770
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 2: So one of my favorite.

771
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 1: Lines in any movie ever is they're trying to get

772
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: back to Chicago. You know, they've gotten screwed every which way.

773
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: They're riding in the back of a pickup truck through

774
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: the plains of Kansas. The country Goersmiths, the figure of

775
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: the temperature is one one. I love that line. It's

776
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: like he could say negative eighty five. Just one is

777
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: such a great deadpan line. Just made me think of

778
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: it when I said it was zero gonna.

779
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 3: I got Chicago people are a different breed.

780
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 2: Ad so true.

781
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: John Candy was Canadian, but really he was a Chicago

782
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: and at heart. All right, let's talk about it. Las

783
00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders at the Philadelphia Eagles. Eagles are eleven and

784
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: a half point favorites Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, famous for the Liberty Bell,

785
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: Blue Laws, soft pretzels, and losing football teams. The Raiders

786
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: ending was truly bizarre and it has lit up the internet.

787
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 2: So I did some research just to for everyone who

788
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: hasn't paid attention.

789
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: The Raiders were anywhere from seven and a half to

790
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: eight and a half point underdogs against the Broncos. They

791
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: kicked a meaningless field goal with five seconds left when

792
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: they were down ten. Game ends Broncos win by seven.

793
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: Everybody who was on the Raiders loses their bets. They're

794
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: all calling on everyone who bet on the Broncos loses

795
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: their bets. They're all calling for the NFL to investigate

796
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: this game. They're saying it was rigged.

797
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 2: All of this stuff. This has happened before. It happened

798
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 2: two years ago.

799
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: Sean McVay, as a seven and a half point underdog

800
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: against the Nine in twenty twenty three, did the exact

801
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: same thing strategically. You know, I get it, like, who

802
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: knows you kick the field goal, you're down ten, you

803
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: even get a second left, you get an onside kick,

804
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: someone fumbles it, you can run it back. Crazy, crazy

805
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: things have happened in the NFL. People say they want

806
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: to investigate the refs. I totally get it. Here's the

807
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: problem that's going on right now. This is not an

808
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: integrity problem. These games aren't fixed. If the NFL won

809
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: to fix games, they wouldn't focus on the Broncos and

810
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: the Raiders. They would make sure that Why because they

811
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: focus on the Chiefs on Sunday Night when they need

812
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: the Chiefs to win. Because the Chiefs and the Cowboys

813
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: are the two most popular teams who drive the most ratings.

814
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: It's not the Rams, it's not the Seahawks, it's not

815
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: the Broncos. Those are the teams they want to see

816
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: make the playoffs.

817
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 3: You're not good at s gaming, Chad that you don't

818
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 3: that's the house gaming works. It's where people aren't looking.

819
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 3: That's where they scam. But you miss the most egregious

820
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 3: part of this whole thing, the reason people are so

821
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: pissed off, as Broncos could have kicked the field goal.

822
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 3: They went for it on fourth down. Okay, they didn't

823
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 3: get it. Maybe they were going from four down because

824
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 3: they're trying to run out the clocket. Trump Payon does

825
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,959
Speaker 3: weird shit all the time. This this whole Raiders part

826
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 3: was so weird because they got that they had no

827
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 3: timeouts left. They through to the middle of the field,

828
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 3: the guy gets tackled, the defender was slow getting off

829
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 3: of him or whatever, and they called the delay a

830
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 3: game yes, which people got upset about because they that's

831
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 3: why I've been called say three four times in the

832
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 3: last five years, which is very rare, cold type of penalty.

833
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: And like we just said, they sent out the kicker

834
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 3: when there's five second less to kick it. Because his

835
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: whole math was, well, if we kicked that field goal

836
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 3: and we make it, I put the position that we

837
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: onside kick it, we could recover the Auntie said and

838
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 3: return it for a touchdown. That's what Pete Carroll exactly

839
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 3: said to defend himself. It's like, Okay, I guess that

840
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 3: covers all the bases here, but I think that's why

841
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 3: people were just so upset. And it's like, you needed

842
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 3: three really stupid things to happen at the end of

843
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: that game to lose that bet which you were winning

844
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 3: for the entire game. So that's why people were upset.

845
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 3: And uh yeah, I told you. I that's why I

846
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 3: took Demra on the money line. It's like I thought

847
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 3: something stupid like that might happen with the back door there,

848
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 3: but to lose that way, I get why people are

849
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 3: so pissed. That's like egregious to all the stupid things

850
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 3: have to happen. But we say all the time, that's gambling.

851
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 3: It's it's stupid things.

852
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: Yes, all the time, it's gambling, and like only gamble

853
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: where you can lose and then don't fucking whine about

854
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: it because this is this happens. Here's my solve, and

855
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: we've talked about this earlier this year. The speed at

856
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: which they can do expedited reviews now on so many things.

857
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: How are they just not having somebody in New York

858
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: doing an expedited review on every single call, and if

859
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: it is egregious and it's impactful in some way, why

860
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: aren't they saying to the refs, yeah, pick up the flag.

861
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: This was not the penalty you think it was. We

862
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: saw it in the Chiefs game. We sawt in the

863
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: Chiefs game. There was a penalty that was a phantom

864
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: pass interference penalty. There was a phantom holding penalty where

865
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: a guy just fell and they thought it was a hole.

866
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: Like we see these things happen all the time. It's

867
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: so much easier with technology to fix it in the moment,

868
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: and they're only qualifying it against what they feel our

869
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: sort of game changing plays. But a holding call can

870
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: be a game changing play. We just saw it last night.

871
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: A delay a game can be a game changing play.

872
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: They should be making these expeded reviews on such a

873
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: wider menu of calls in the NFL. It would increase

874
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: the quality of the game. It would eliminate so much

875
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: of the conversation about how bad the refs are. And

876
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: with integrity being front of mind for so many people,

877
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: it is more front of mine than it even was

878
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: two years ago when McVeigh did this, Like their.

879
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 3: Needs every week we have this conversation every week.

880
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: Chose so fix it every week.

881
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: I know what I'm saying. They're not going to, but

882
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: that's this issue. It's like they should make it. Coaches

883
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: can challenge one or two calls per game, and it's

884
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: not done through the referee creu on the field. It's

885
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: done through York like you said, So it's not biased

886
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 3: to the people you're on the field with, and it's

887
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 3: just they need to do something because it's every week

888
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: I'm getting yeah too by people say the NFL's fixed,

889
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 3: and we both have the same view. It's very stupid,

890
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 3: but I like to get on because it is funny

891
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 3: where it's like people really do believe it is fixed,

892
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 3: and it's like, guys, come on, they don't need to

893
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 3: fix these games. Like it's just it's gonna be a

894
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: billion dollar business regardless off whoever wins or loses that

895
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: Denver Raiders game. Like we both joke, no one cares.

896
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: But but it's like what you said about the red

897
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: zone the other night, it would be a more enjoyable product.

898
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 1: We're all paying for it, we're all gonna watch it.

899
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: It has no fear of fading. It's not gonna get worse.

900
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: For the NFL, But why not make it as good

901
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: as you can be? And you know this is an

902
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: issue for everybody who's watching it home. It slows the

903
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: games down, It ruins momentum, it changes the course of

904
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: these games. Why not just go to the competition committee,

905
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: expand the menu, Expand the menu of calls. They can

906
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: be expedited reviews. And if it's a phantom holding call,

907
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: if it's a bad pass interference call, if it's a

908
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: bad delay a game call, that just changed it on

909
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: the spot. Why change the outcome of games off of

910
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 1: what are small penalties? And that's that is happening. It's

911
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: not just the big turnovers and scores that are the

912
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: most impactful plays. Anyways, the Eagles are eleven and a

913
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 1: half point favorites at home against the Raiders.

914
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 2: What do you want to fucking do?

915
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: I mean, Lane Johnson's back, I'll bell over the Eagles,

916
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 3: but without him, I'll probably end up on Vegas. I'm

917
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 3: just or pass on this game, so we'll see. I

918
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 3: think Lane Johnson will be back. But this is a

919
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: great spot once again, freezing cold Gino Smith outdoors. He's

920
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 3: already been horrible this year's indoors let alone outdoors against Eagles.

921
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: As much crap you want to give him, they do

922
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 3: have a really good defensive line. They can get after quarterbacks.

923
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 3: So we've seen that Phillips kid that got from Miami.

924
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 3: He's been great for them and he think this is

925
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: a good match for him. So it's a huge number.

926
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 3: Public will be all over in Vegas. I mean everyone,

927
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 3: just like the Chiefs. There's no one out there betting

928
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 3: this Eagles team. So I'll be paid. It has moved down, yeah,

929
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 3: just be patient. It kick get under ten.

930
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: Philly has moved from eleven and from twelve and a

931
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: half to eleven and a half. Yeah, if you're gonna

932
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: talk about buying it the low. I mean everyone watched

933
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: that game, so I don't.

934
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 3: Even think that's wrong about them. Like I said, I

935
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: think they could lose this game. They are just it

936
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 3: is so bad that plane ride. I can't even imember

937
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: how horrible that plane ride was. And it's a short week,

938
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: like it's just everything is just so negative for this

939
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 3: Eagles team. But they should smoke this Vegas team, just defensively.

940
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 3: I just don't see how Gino can move the ball,

941
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: So really really couldn't have asked if you're an Eagles

942
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: fan or that team to have a better team to

943
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 3: play against.

944
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: Here at home Washington Commanders at the New York Giants.

945
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: The Giants are two point favorites. I don't think any

946
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: team has been more unlucky than the Giants this year.

947
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: You mentioned doctor Nick Giffin from Action, our buddy Nick

948
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: who does the luck rankings, and last week his luck rankings.

949
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: The two games that were sort of great at a

950
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: were the Commanders as underdogs against the Broncos and the

951
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: Giants as underdog the Patriot underdogs get the Patriots. It

952
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: worked out with the Commanders, didn't work out with the

953
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,479
Speaker 1: Giants because their luck continued under the first half until

954
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 1: they made it a game.

955
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: Washington.

956
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels is expected to play, so that's crazy, it's crazy,

957
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: but he is. They held him out for precaution because

958
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: he was questionable to return. You know, talk about by

959
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: low Sell high similar to the Cardinals here, like it's

960
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: not going to get lower for the Commanders losing thirty

961
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: one to nothing to a quarterback that basically everybody was

962
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: putting on the scrap heap and saying, was this generation

963
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: JaMarcus Russell and JJ McCarthy. So Commanders plus two, I

964
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like that's the play.

965
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, we're saying it Tuesday. I'll probably bet the Commanders,

966
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 3: but that's I don't even want to be involved in

967
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 3: this game. For being totally honest, I'll make this pick

968
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 3: for a pick pulls, but putting the actual money on

969
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 3: either side of this. There's so many good games this week.

970
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 3: I'll totally happily not have this on any TV.

971
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: Good I'm glad we don't talk about it. I definitely

972
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: don't want to put it in the Molti view. Detroit

973
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: is visiting Los Angeles Rams. Rams are five and a

974
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: half point favorites. Look, the Lions dominated the Cowboys. That's

975
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: the good news. Right in that game, they lost Brian Branch.

976
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 3: For the year.

977
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: They were already without Terry.

978
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: And Arnold who hasn't even been the corner they need

979
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: him to be, but he was the best they had

980
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: and now he's out. Thomas Harper, another guy in the

981
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: defensive backfield who's been starting, may miss the game because

982
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: of a concussion. They may get Kirby Joseph back.

983
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 2: He's been he's questionable. He's been out for a while

984
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: with an injury.

985
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: They beat the Cowboys with a lot of his own

986
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys, Cowboys have not played a lot of

987
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: his own. I mean, they played a lot of his own

988
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. They haven't played a lot of own

989
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: this year. It doesn't matter against Stafford. He's great against Soewn,

990
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: he's great against Man. They've got a dominant rushing game.

991
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: The success rate for this team's rushing game is as

992
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: good as any team in the last six years. When

993
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: it was twenty eighteen and it was the Los Angeles

994
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: Rams who went to the Super Bowl.

995
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: They're playing awesome right now.

996
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just doesn't feel like the type of spot

997
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 3: they have a letdown or play bad. Right This is

998
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: a huge deal. This is Matthew Stafford's former team on Salman,

999
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 3: the opposite for Jared Goff. This is his former team

1000
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 3: as well. So this is I mean, doesn't get much

1001
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 3: better than this is probably the best game of the week.

1002
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: Just two teams both desperately need this game for playoff seeding.

1003
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 3: And you know I talked a little bit about Sunday night.

1004
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 3: I love the Rams like I love them at four

1005
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 3: and a half, they're five actually still at hard Rock

1006
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 3: here in Jersey. Every other book is five and a half.

1007
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 3: I'm seeing a couple of six pops. So I want

1008
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 3: to make this, Simon says, but don't want to mush

1009
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 3: it because I'm gonna bet this heavily, and Simon says

1010
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 3: has just been toxic. So I am really really happy

1011
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: that this number stillers six. I really love this Rams

1012
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 3: team for just a bunch of different match with Bigs.

1013
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 3: When you just talked about the injuries to the secondary

1014
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 3: of this team, the lines, they're gonna try to run

1015
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 3: the zone because they're gonna have so many backups in there.

1016
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 3: He's just gonna eat you a live staff especially the

1017
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: way Puka is playing right now, and you know we've

1018
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 3: talked about the amount they Adams. He is. My feeling

1019
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 3: about Devant Adams. He's an old man level where I

1020
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 3: feel like Stafford tells him, Hey, this time, run really

1021
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 3: hard route like I'm actually gonna go to And they

1022
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 3: picked their spots where, especially in the red zone, it

1023
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 3: just like feels like if you see certain plays, you

1024
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 3: can see where Puca's going really hard off the line,

1025
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 3: as if Puka knows it's coming his way on the

1026
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 3: flip side. Devout the Adams just basically rubs. The guy

1027
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 3: at the line doesn't even move because he's like, I'm

1028
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,959
Speaker 3: not wasting energy here, and it's just totally in sanc

1029
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 3: I just love watching this Rams team so much. Everything

1030
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 3: is just clicking. So, yeah, it's it's a big number.

1031
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 3: I assume the public will come in on this Lions team,

1032
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 3: especially if it touches six. So, like you said, they

1033
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 3: had that huge win, right and now they're on ten

1034
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 3: days rest, So I get it. Stafford especially, I'm sure

1035
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 3: the Trens will back it up. Stafford is a dog indoors,

1036
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 3: you know, and I should say golf as a dog

1037
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: indoors tends to be a really good spot to take them.

1038
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 3: But talked about those numbers, it feels like it's the

1039
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: Detroit of the past, and this is a bank the

1040
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 3: Detroit offensive line that's struggle against good defensive lines, which

1041
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 3: the Rams have and we've seen it. Their secondary is

1042
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 3: just two me injuries. So I know pansby Lions fans,

1043
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 3: but this just feels like a really bad spot to

1044
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 3: go against this juggering out of a Rams team.

1045
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: I feel like you're expressing.

1046
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: I've heard this many times during our years together, a

1047
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: quiet confidence on the Rams.

1048
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it a lot. Again, I don't want

1049
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 3: to mush it what Simon says, but this is I

1050
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 3: feel like this is a very nice number in a

1051
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 3: nice spot. So, like I said, hard Rock, it's still

1052
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 3: five year in Jersey. Shop around people. You might be

1053
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 3: able to get a five. We can hear this, but

1054
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 3: I just see this again into six by the timeless

1055
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 3: people hear this.

1056
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I am gonna unload on the Rams. I don't

1057
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: know about that betting it all. Yeah, on the Los

1058
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams Carolina at New Orleans. Look, I know we

1059
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: wanted this one to get the three. We want to

1060
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: bet the Saints at plus three, and we hate betting

1061
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: against the Panthers when they're in the hunt for the division.

1062
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: Are beloved, beloved Panthers. I'd really like to bet New

1063
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: Orleans here. I just wanted to be at a number

1064
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: that makes me a little bit happier.

1065
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm fortunately, I'm impatient. I can't wait. Simon says,

1066
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 3: give me the Saints plus two and a half. I

1067
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,439
Speaker 3: want to play a game. Simon says, like Chad said,

1068
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 3: there are some threes popping up every on them, but

1069
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 3: they keep getting hit back down at two and a half.

1070
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 3: So I want to get the Saints now two and

1071
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 3: a half just in case the pros do come in

1072
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 3: hit this down. But this is going to be the

1073
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 3: biggest split game. The public will be all over the

1074
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 3: Carolina team, especially effectively. Last time they saw them, they

1075
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 3: upset the Rams and they had a bye week. So yeah,

1076
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 3: you know, as much as you know, I want to say, well,

1077
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 3: I thought the public would love this Saints team, was

1078
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 3: that he was went against the Bucks. Feels like everyone's

1079
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: kind of the same boat, right, It's like that's more

1080
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 3: about something being wrong with the Bucks than the same

1081
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 3: winer where it's like once again they're overlooking the Saints team.

1082
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 3: They play really tough and just looking at these teams

1083
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 3: previous matchups going back these last couple of years, while

1084
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 3: the Saints have been bad, they've kind of owned this

1085
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 3: Panthers team. It's been shocking. So this year they beat

1086
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 3: him seventeen to seven, which we remember because we bet

1087
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 3: on it, and you know this exact next next scenario

1088
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 3: or the next time. The last time they played, the

1089
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 3: Panthers did beat him twenty three to twenty two last year,

1090
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 3: and then before that they've lost four straight. They lost

1091
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 3: to the Saints forty seven to ten, twenty eight to six,

1092
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 3: and then twenty to seventeen. So it's like the Saints

1093
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 3: have kind of owned this matchup in this Panthers team

1094
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 3: usually in this matchup. So I don't know if the

1095
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 3: publics were looking to that historical facts where we talk

1096
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 3: even last week, it happened right all those divisional matchups.

1097
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 3: The trends war went out like these teams and when

1098
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 3: you get in these divisional games, for some reason, they

1099
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 3: just match up all against certain matchups. And we've seen

1100
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 3: the Saints team they do match up well against his

1101
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 3: Panthers team. They give them problems up front where you know,

1102
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 3: as old as Cam Jordan is, he gives pressure up

1103
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 3: the middle, which we've seen with Bryce Young, get him

1104
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 3: off his spot. That's just not great for him. So

1105
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 3: I love this number. I wish I could say my

1106
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 3: model had this a great mmer like I did last

1107
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 3: week with that Jacks team, where I was like, oh,

1108
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 3: it's four points off. Sadly the model literally has said two,

1109
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 3: So it's it's not that big of a margin. I

1110
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 3: just it's really about me loving the spot for the

1111
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 3: Staints team, the effect they play so well against the

1112
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: Panthers team that tends the letdown after big wins. We've

1113
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 3: seen him multiple times this year. They've had letdown spots

1114
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 3: after big wins. So we'll see how they perform. It's

1115
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 3: a rare opportunity Bryce Young as a favorite in his career,

1116
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 3: I believe as one win.

1117
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 1: I had to spend all day yesterday researching Bryce Young

1118
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: as a road favorite.

1119
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 3: Has it happened before? No, It's never happened before. No,

1120
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 3: I was gonna. I was trying to think of it. It

1121
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 3: was like, has it happened before?

1122
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: When could have happened?

1123
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 3: Right?

1124
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: It's an impossible It doesn't it doesn't exist.

1125
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 3: Not only is he a road favorite for the first

1126
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 3: time his career, he's getting eighty seven percent of the

1127
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 3: bets and eighty percent of the money right now.

1128
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: I mean, it's that I just want to like.

1129
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: Simon says, it incredible, Thank you, Chad. Simon says, presented

1130
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: by a hard rock bet. It's going to be the

1131
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints plus two and a half. It's going

1132
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 1: to be hard to avoid this one in the contest.

1133
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: Not that we want to, you know, telegraph it, but

1134
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: we're both going to be on the Saints here, the

1135
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: number is probably going to be two and a.

1136
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: Half in the contest, so that's what we're gonna be betting.

1137
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 3: Even one and a half, I'd still take it, even

1138
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 3: though again that's under my model's number. I still think

1139
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 3: this this this number should be a pick, right. It's

1140
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 3: like the Saints just are not as bad as people

1141
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 3: perceive and as much praise we're given to Carolina, They're

1142
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 3: an up and down team. That's just who they are

1143
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 3: this year.

1144
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. Will you be with me on

1145
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: this next game? Green Bay at Denver? Denver is a

1146
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: two point home underdog. It's been bouncing one and a

1147
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: half and two and a half. Every time it gets

1148
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: to two and a half, somebody buys the Broncos, and

1149
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: every time it gets to one and a half, somebody's

1150
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: buying the Packers.

1151
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 2: And that's what we're seeing in the splits.

1152
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to make this one Chad's choice, and I

1153
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: am taking the Green Bay Packers.

1154
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 3: Are you sure you want to do this? Are you

1155
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 3: willing to make a choice? What choice? We can't run

1156
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 3: from away? Are sharp dues? Can just see it? You

1157
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 3: know what I mean?

1158
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: You look the numbers we talked about this on Sunday.

1159
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: It's really hard to find the weakness in this team,

1160
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: even though it doesn't feel like they've been the dominant

1161
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: talked about team right everyone in the NFC. They've been

1162
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: talking about the Rams, they've been talking about the Seahawks

1163
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: and the Packers. Like all of a sudden, they're nine

1164
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,959
Speaker 1: to three to one. They're atop the NFC North. Their

1165
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 1: defense is so fast and playing lights out. Jordan Love

1166
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: is incredible under pressure, which is what the Broncos are

1167
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: going to bring. Even if they're only bringing four or

1168
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: five guys. They're not going to be a blitz heavy team.

1169
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: That's not their scheme. Their receivers on the Broncos on

1170
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: the Packers side are getting healthier. There's just opportunities here

1171
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: for the Packers to steal this game. I don't think

1172
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: any of us trust bo Nicks, and while we like

1173
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: bo Nicks as an underdog, I think I just like

1174
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: this Packers team, and I think they're starting to roll

1175
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: and finally getting healthy at the exact right time. So

1176
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: we got to go with the Packers. Chat Choice presented

1177
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 1: by hard Rock Bet.

1178
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. Love the Packers. They love the

1179
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 3: match for them and another game I thought would be

1180
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 3: affected by the cold, but it seems like that cold

1181
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 3: air is just just to the east, so just Chicago

1182
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 3: and then heads east of the Mississippi, and this game

1183
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 3: will probably be in the fifties fourties for kickoffs. I

1184
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 3: know either team really going to be affected that much

1185
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 3: by the cold, but you just look at this matchup. Yeah,

1186
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 3: the Green Bay Tea. To me, they're the team that

1187
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 3: I've been there before and more complete team. You expect

1188
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 3: them this moment to kind of live up to that moment,

1189
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 3: and the fact that it is under three, it feels

1190
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 3: like it's the right number for the Packers, right, Like

1191
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 3: we just how many times had this game played as

1192
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 3: a Packer's gonna win this game by a Fielgal. It

1193
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 3: feels like it's gonna be way more times than this.

1194
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 3: Bronco seems to covers the dog here, so I'm interesting

1195
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 3: where this line goes. The guy talked a little bit

1196
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 3: about Sunday night, I thought maybe it could flip, and

1197
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 3: you did see some one and a half start popping

1198
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 3: up on this Bronco side. But like Chad talked about,

1199
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 3: it's all two's now all off to two and a half,

1200
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 3: so a lot of books as well. So if you

1201
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 3: do like the Packers like we do, I would definitely

1202
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 3: get in now, grab the two before it moves two

1203
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 3: and a half because I just see this being two

1204
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 3: and a half three by close. For most books, it's

1205
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 3: just the Packers to me, professionals will bet them in

1206
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:55,919
Speaker 3: the public will they just feel like that's the more

1207
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 3: trusted side than even though you know the Broncos eleven

1208
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 3: and two they've been great this year, they haven't really

1209
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 3: been tested. They have not really been tested. So this

1210
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 3: is a great test for them against a team that

1211
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 3: it feels like we've talked about this Green by team

1212
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 3: Lafleur in December. They seem like they always turn around

1213
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 3: like McVay teams do and get better as they go alonger.

1214
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 3: So we'll trust the better team, I suppose in Green

1215
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 3: Bay and take the number under field.

1216
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 2: Goal, better team, equal defense, equal coaching, better quarterback.

1217
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, we're fading bo Nicks

1218
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: on this one. Tennessee at San Francisco. Sam Frusco is

1219
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: a twelve and a half point favorite. The Titans have

1220
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: covered three of their last four games since interim coach

1221
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: Mike McCoy took over. They have had bursts of competitiveness.

1222
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say whole games, but definitely bursts. But Simon,

1223
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to refer to Sunday Show in case people

1224
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: did not hear it or watch it. Matt, please roll

1225
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:56,439
Speaker 1: the clip.

1226
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 3: Ched What the hell if you're so lucky this is

1227
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 3: holiday season. I'm so mad at you. Your job is

1228
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 3: not to let me bet these damn Titan games.

1229
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: And everyone we tried, dude, we tried to talk ourselves.

1230
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 3: Out of you stop me from putting this in. You

1231
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 3: you have the power. Now you're putting the picks in,

1232
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 3: and you let me put it in. It's ridiculous. I

1233
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:20,479
Speaker 3: told you I cannot get a read. Whatever I say,

1234
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 3: the option will happens.

1235
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: Is there anything else to say about this game?

1236
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 3: I think I just looked so much younger with the

1237
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 3: no stress of Foreig interceptions. But Yellon hurts at that

1238
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 3: moment in my rage. Uh yeah. If people want to

1239
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 3: keep fading me, I like the forty nine ers year

1240
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 3: like you're fading. We get to fade Tennessee off a

1241
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 3: road wind now on the road again against a well

1242
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 3: rested forty nine Ers team. The number should be like

1243
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 3: fourteen twelve and a half in a lot of books.

1244
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 3: I think it's going to keep going up. So I

1245
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: like the Niners year. I think they absolutely roll this

1246
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 3: Tennessee team. But once again, I am not put any

1247
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 3: money on it. I am wrong every time with this game.

1248
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 3: And if you've been following the trend, Hammer Hammer Tennessee.

1249
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: Indie at Seattle, Seattle's a thirteen and a half point favorite.

1250
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: Line's moved up from twelve and a half. This is

1251
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: the bury the Colts. In Sports media week, everyone from

1252
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: ESPN to the Wall Street Journal writing about how the

1253
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: Colts are done, how this was the season they went

1254
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: all in. They traded the future for Sauce Gardner.

1255
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 2: Now he's out.

1256
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: They thought they had Daniel Jones is their quarterback of

1257
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: the future. Now he's going to be repairing an achilles.

1258
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: They don't even know who their quarterback is going to

1259
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: be when they start next year. This week they've got

1260
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: to go with Riley Leonard because they had the freak

1261
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: accident with Anthony Richardson on the sideline before a game.

1262
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: Listen all the tickets coming in on Seattle.

1263
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 3: Here.

1264
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 2: I said, this one is moved. Do we take a taste.

1265
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a contest play one way or

1266
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: the other, but do we take a taste to the Colts.

1267
01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 3: No, I'm not to get me the other. I was

1268
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 3: the Vikings in this exact scenario. It's not even Riley Leonard.

1269
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 3: I think it might be the other backup now, and

1270
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 3: I mean I could spend ten minutes going to obtain

1271
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 3: them about Philip Rivers and all these people in all

1272
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 3: these people in sports media act like they care about

1273
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 3: players safety and h CT and all this other bullshit.

1274
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 3: For all these years, I hated it because it's so

1275
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 3: phony and fake. And you saw it this week those

1276
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 3: same people. Oh, would it be great if Philip Rivers

1277
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 3: came back? A forty four year old grandfather should come

1278
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 3: back and play the most violent sport. Like, I cannot

1279
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,479
Speaker 3: believe people want Philip Rivers comme back. Another part too,

1280
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 3: people talking about Philip Rivers as he's a hall of famer.

1281
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 3: When did that happen? When did Philip Rivers become a

1282
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer guy with zero playoff success. It's very

1283
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 3: bizarre times we're living in. I just I might have

1284
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 3: too much hate in my heart. I just as soon

1285
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 3: as I saw people want Philip Rivers back. It's like,

1286
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 3: you should all be in jail. This man could die

1287
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 3: entering a field of play at forty four years old.

1288
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 3: I saw some report, Yeah he's still suddenly, it's still slinging.

1289
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 3: It looks healthy. I have no doubt he could come

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01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 3: back and play a game like we've seen it with

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01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 3: Flacco as an old man. It can happen. Like these

1292
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 3: guys are gun slingers, they're smart, they know to read defenses.

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Speaker 3: But I think he can play two or three games

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Speaker 3: and survive. I just I think that is that is

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01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 3: criminal to put a man like that.

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Speaker 2: It's never the arm that is. It's the body.

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Speaker 1: It's the legs, it's the knees, it's the head. Guys

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Speaker 1: who have the arm talent, like Philip Rivers, Dan Marino,

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01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: John Elway, you know Tom.

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01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 2: Brady, they could throw it till they're eighty. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: that's not the problem.

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Speaker 3: It's just so I get it. They worked them out

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01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 3: and they're trying again to come back. But I just

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01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 3: when I saw people in the media, I'm like, man,

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01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 3: this is like criminal. You guys are like it's like

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01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,919
Speaker 3: marching a man to his death and celebrating it. It's

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Speaker 3: I just did not like the fact that he's gonna

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Speaker 3: come back. But you know, as a kid, yeah, that

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Speaker 3: makes me excited. Philip Rivers is coming back, that's great.

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Speaker 3: But for this number. If it's philp Rivers, sure, Chad,

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01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind taking a piece, But if it's not

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Speaker 3: Riley Leonard and it's the other backup or some other

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01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 3: rookiear some guy they just picked up off the street,

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Speaker 3: I just you can't make me take it. Seattle's defense,

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01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 3: We've seen it time tam again. They will destroy a

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01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 3: lackluster quarterback performance. So their only hope. I mean, it

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Speaker 3: is terrible it is Philip Rivers or Joe Flacco gets

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Speaker 3: released by the Bengals. Other than that, it's just grim,

1319
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 3: grim grim. If you're this Colts fan, I.

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Speaker 1: Feel like we might be seeing Seattle, San Francisco, maybe

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01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: Jacksonville in the money line parlay at reduced spreads.

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Speaker 2: Come Thursday again.

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Speaker 3: One of every epic one that we would sit here

1324
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Speaker 3: and be like, one of them is gonna lose, doesn't

1325
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 3: It's not like I used to. I mean, just getting

1326
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 3: the cover now from these big dogs, that's the win.

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01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, does feel that way?

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01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: Right, All right, let's focus on some prime time games.

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01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna watch these island games. We know we're gonna

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01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: bet these Island games. Minnesota at Dallas. Dallas is six

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01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: point favorite. It's come down a little bit from six

1332
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: and a half. Minnesota went from being the is the

1333
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: first team to ever go from being shut out to

1334
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 1: winning by a shutout at significant margin as they did.

1335
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 2: I have no read on this game.

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01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 3: No I liked Minnesota. It's it's simply because I think

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01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 3: their defense will want to get stops and offensively I

1338
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 3: think gaves you a bit of design stuff up. Then

1339
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 3: they'll be able to move the ball against this Cowboys

1340
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 3: defense that yeah, they played better of late, but there's

1341
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 3: still suspected many aspects of their team. So hard Rock

1342
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 3: here in Jersey is actually five and a half, and

1343
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 3: I'm looking there's still two books with sixes and a half.

1344
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 3: So if you can when you take the Vikings to

1345
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 3: get the six and a half or the six, I

1346
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 3: think it's going to be out there. But I do

1347
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 3: see the professionals coming in on this Viking side and

1348
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 3: it's getting bumped down. So despite all the money, all

1349
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 3: the tickets, early money is on the Cowboys team.

1350
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: I just well, it moved to move from six and

1351
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 1: a half to six, so we know that's where the

1352
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: pros are going to be so.

1353
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 3: And I think they keep coming on it. Like I

1354
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 3: said on Sunday, I think six is a good number

1355
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 3: from Minnesota. But I get all you're hesitant. Like I

1356
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 3: betting JJ McCarthy on the road after a huge win.

1357
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 3: It just doesn't appet to problect, So get I get

1358
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 3: your hesitation. I'm there with you, the cloud filled friends

1359
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 3: about for Monday nine.

1360
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: But Miami at Pittsburgh Pittsburgh is now a three point

1361
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: favorite minus one twenty at hard Rock, three and a

1362
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: half everywhere else. And since we stupidly walked away from

1363
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin and the raw rock trends last week, I

1364
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: do want to bring up that Mike Tomlin in his

1365
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: career as a three plus home favorite fifty one percent

1366
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: against the spread. But since twenty eighteen when we entered

1367
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 1: into the Duck Hodges, we don't know who's going to

1368
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: be quarterback, and of Ben Roethlisberger era, he's well below

1369
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: five against the spread as a three plus point favorite

1370
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:03,959
Speaker 1: at home.

1371
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 3: Football is our game, a business is winning.

1372
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: Now we're getting all the news this week other than

1373
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and the Colts, And how tragic is how

1374
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: brilliantly Mike McDaniel has saved his job.

1375
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 2: And since we have to buy high.

1376
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: On both teams right now, I'm more inclined to sell

1377
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: Tomlin and buy the Dolphins for one reason. The Dolphins

1378
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:39,919
Speaker 1: running game Devon A. Chant has just been brilliant this year,

1379
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: and before he left the Jets game with a rib injury,

1380
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: he will be playing this week, by the way, ninety

1381
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: two yards on seven carries. That's the difference for this team.

1382
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: And I know it's going to be you know, Arctic blasts,

1383
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: but Arctic blasts for the Dolphins used to me and

1384
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: they couldn't do anything because it was into his hands.

1385
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 1: It's not going to be into his hands. So I'm

1386
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: less uncomfortable with a team that focuses on an explosive

1387
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: run game against a defense in the Steelers that has

1388
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: been terrible at giving up explosive runs.

1389
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything you said is so true. I immediately wanted

1390
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 3: to be on Miami at three and a half. But

1391
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 3: the freeze has scared me off because we've just talked

1392
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 3: about how horrible to his record is and everything like

1393
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 3: that is. But maybe the chee could is you just

1394
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 3: two is not nothing these last three four weeks and

1395
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 3: they'd keep winning because they have such a dominant run game.

1396
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 3: So maybe I'm overthinking it here. Miami probably is the

1397
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 3: right side. The three, though, is very tempting. I mean,

1398
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 3: the hard rock already moved back to three and a half,

1399
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 3: so something clearly came and hit that right away once

1400
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 3: they moved it. And I'm tempted, not gonna lie tempted

1401
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 3: to take Pittsburgh the minus three. But you're everything you're

1402
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 3: saying is so true. It's Miami three and a half.

1403
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 3: And we know Tomlin's record whenever he's a big favorite

1404
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 3: like this, especially after that emotional of a win on

1405
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 3: the road against the Raves of divisional foe, it's easy

1406
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 3: to see them having let down here. But you know,

1407
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 3: it's that those trends, Chad, they're going to scare me

1408
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 3: off man, that Miami in the freezing cold. They're just

1409
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 3: it's so bad, especial when they're playing against what this

1410
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 3: team is right now, Pittsburgh a divisional team, so we've

1411
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 3: seen it there. It's the double negative. It's a to

1412
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 3: a plane against a team on the road above five

1413
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 3: hundred tun a plane against a team that's in the

1414
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 3: freezing cold. So a lot of shunger opinion come Thursday

1415
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 3: on this one. But said here right now, I am

1416
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 3: leaning towards this Pittsburgh side.

1417
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 2: Hmm. Interesting.

1418
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: Interesting, All right, well, listen, we got a lot to

1419
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: review and think there's a lot to unpack still because

1420
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:39,600
Speaker 1: lines are still going to be moving and we're going

1421
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: to get roster information. But Kansas City minus four is

1422
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: a debate. New England Buffalo is a debate. Arizona will

1423
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: it move? Will we start feeling all of a sudden

1424
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: like we have no choice?

1425
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 3: So think I think we have like three or four

1426
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:57,799
Speaker 3: games we like legitmately like, so.

1427
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 1: I think we definitely like The Week Honesty normally like.

1428
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: But I think we I circled on my list games

1429
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: that I know we like Rams, New Orleans, Green Bay?

1430
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:13,719
Speaker 2: Are those the same three that you have circled?

1431
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 3: I don't have anything circle, but I do like those.

1432
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 2: But those are the ones we agree on.

1433
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying I don't write anything like you do.

1434
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 3: That's what I love you, though, Man, you're.

1435
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,839
Speaker 2: Taking us it taking outs. I got a whole notebook.

1436
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 2: Fill in it. I get new one each year.

1437
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 1: Just fill it up with Sharper Square stuff. All right,

1438
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 1: this has been Sharper Square part of the Volume podcast network.

1439
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 1: We will be back on Thursday with the games we

1440
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 1: are zeroing in on. We'll talk about our head to head,

1441
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: We'll talk about our brass ball so much more.

1442
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:48,160
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01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 3: Together, we can do it.

1448
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 2: Nobody can do it alone, but together we can do it.

1449
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 3: Let's play our kind of football and we'll come out

1450
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 3: of it with a win.

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01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: Let's go