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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Holy Cow, we made it to Friday. Welcome to One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. We're at

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Speaker 2: the end of the week finally for a big showdown

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Speaker 2: Sunday night in Cincinnati. It's supposed to be balmy temperatures

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Speaker 2: Sunday evening, like sixty degree.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be great. It's gonna be a good game,

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Speaker 1: fun game. It's gonna be two good teams. Just what

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Speaker 1: we're just what everybody's looking for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is one of the market games on the

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Speaker 2: schedule for sure, which explains its primetime location.

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Speaker 1: It's almost for us for Bills fans. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be kind of a bookend game. I mean

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Speaker 1: nine thirty or something in the morning, Dolphins take on

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Speaker 1: the Chiefe, which is two teams that the Bills Bills

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Speaker 1: fans keep a kind of a side eye on, you know,

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Speaker 1: So you can start the day with that and in

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Speaker 1: the day with the Bills Bills Bengals that night.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, you can good day. You can literally feast

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Speaker 3: on football all day.

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Speaker 1: Long, and well you should.

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Speaker 2: It's good and it's calf yr evening with the Bills.

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Speaker 1: It's good and it's good for you.

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Speaker 2: As we know, it is Friday, which means it's the

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Speaker 2: OBL Friday fan mail Bag where we answer some of

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Speaker 2: your most pressing questions on the Bills, or the NFL

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Speaker 2: at large, maybe the AFC East Race, the AFC Conference Race.

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Speaker 2: Whatever you want to discuss, feel free to ask it

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Speaker 2: Tweetcheetah one Bills Live, Steve and I'll do our best

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Speaker 2: to come up with intelligent, insightful answers for you. We

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Speaker 2: also have the final injury report set to come out,

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Speaker 2: although head coach Sean McDermott on the team's flagship station

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Speaker 2: WGR here in Buffalo this morning, said that he has

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Speaker 2: already ruled out both of the linebackers on Buffalo's injury report,

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Speaker 2: aj Klein and balin Spector Spector with the hamstring injury,

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Speaker 2: Cline with the back injury, so both players already ruled

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Speaker 2: out for Sunday Night's game. He did say everybody else

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Speaker 2: on the injury report has a chance to play Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: Also interesting, Steve was head coach Sean McDermott has not

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Speaker 2: ruled out the possibility of both Rasul Douglas and Lynn

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Speaker 2: as well, and it was interesting to hear Lynvall Joseph

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Speaker 2: explained yesterday with the media that he has played in

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Speaker 2: a similar defensive system from his years in Minnesota, so

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Speaker 2: veteran guy might be quick on the uptake. He could

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Speaker 2: find himself on the field Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'll say this, the thing that's keeping him

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Speaker 1: would only be the coaches thinking, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: if we call this plane, we make this adjustment, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if we got you know, if he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to pick it up. You know, if they

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Speaker 1: get into this and do this, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he's gonna do you know what I mean? Right?

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Speaker 3: But you know that's it.

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Speaker 2: Things only get complex on third down, really, right, I

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Speaker 2: mean for the most part of first and second down here, yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if you got to worry about that, well.

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Speaker 1: You always got to worry about it. Well, your job

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Speaker 1: to worry about it. So me and you too, so

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Speaker 1: it's our job to worry about stuff like this. It is, yes,

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Speaker 1: and and I'm doing my job right now. I worries me.

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Speaker 1: So he's he's gonna help though, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: He's you know, he's a big Jordan Phillips looking dude,

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Speaker 2: a huge human being.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday at practice he and Jordan Phillips were standing next

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Speaker 2: best thing that Lynn Val Joseph does if he's in

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Speaker 2: to his more natural position, which is the three technique,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jordan has been Ed's rotational backup in that.

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Speaker 1: So you can have two really good three technique guys

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Speaker 1: He likes. He's a really good disruptor, and it's hard

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Speaker 1: And when you're the size of Jordan Phillips and you're

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Speaker 1: his athleticism is hard to handle with the guy that big. Usually,

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Speaker 1: And Jordan's got a little bit of both. So I

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Speaker 1: maybe right, so, And I think it keeps them at

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Speaker 2: because there's a lot on the line back there. As

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Speaker 2: we know, not to say that he can't handle it,

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Speaker 2: but he hasn't played with these guys on the back end. Ever,

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Speaker 2: You're in a road environment on top of it, so

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Speaker 2: I would anticipate he's not in the lineup. Maybe he's

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Speaker 2: study this week. Otherwise, I think the move is Josh

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Speaker 2: Norman getting elevated again this week to be that reserve

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would anticipate. Now let's think about it though.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Rasul's been down this road before. He's been

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So those are gonna be some interesting roster decisions.

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Speaker 2: I'm not anticipating Leonard Fournette to be brought up from

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Speaker 2: about two to four weeks to master this these pass

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Speaker 2: I think the reason he is here is to offer

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Speaker 2: knowing their propensity to use Murray on third downs for

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Speaker 2: pass protection. When he's on the field, it's either a

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Speaker 2: He doesn't offer anything else. Fournett offers leaking out of

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Speaker 1: And there's some stuff on social media that'll give you

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Speaker 1: an idea of how Leonard formet for Nett pass protects

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Speaker 1: he is not shy, so he's a big physical dude

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Speaker 1: he's a threat. So that that's one extra wrinkle and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just as he said himself, though, it's gonna

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Speaker 2: take him a couple of weeks, so that's all right.

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Speaker 2: You know, he'll just probably bide his time, you know,

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Speaker 3: And it's hard too.

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to talk out of both sides

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Speaker 1: extra time. They don't do any of that in the

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Speaker 1: regular season. They're putting game plans in. You got to

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Speaker 1: rather than be rather than be taught, you got to

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Speaker 1: catch up during the regular season, so it's a different atmosphere, and.

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Speaker 2: One way to catch up is just study the game

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Speaker 2: plan this week, right, Don't worry about the full complement

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Speaker 2: of the playbook, right, just focus on the game plan

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Speaker 2: this week so you can play and help us. And

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Speaker 2: that's another tactic that has been used before. One minor

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Speaker 2: roster move for the Bengals today they put reserve defensive

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Speaker 2: back Tyson Anderson on injured reserve. He's had a knee injury,

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Speaker 2: so he is now off the roster. They called up

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Speaker 2: a tight end yesterday, Tanner Hudson been a practice squad

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Speaker 2: that was interesting. You know, you always trying to read

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Speaker 2: the tea leaves on some of these roster moves late

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Speaker 1: It's like that, like last week when Almondola got called up,

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Speaker 1: what they were going to do. When Knox went down,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the Bills got like nine thousand

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Speaker 1: of knew, you mean Isabella, Yeah, Isabelle? What who di

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Speaker 3: Danny Amadoulad?

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Speaker 1: How about that?

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Speaker 3: The same kind of player Andy, Isabella?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So when that Yeah, so you knew that was

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Speaker 1: kind of happening, Which is kind of the way this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you kind of wonder what they're trying. What are

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Speaker 2: The obl fan Friday mailbag is open. We do want

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Speaker 2: to remind you our number two of the show will

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Speaker 2: feature none other than Greg co Sel, senior producer from

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Speaker 2: NFL Films and also co host of ESPN's NFL Matchup Show,

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Speaker 2: and undoubtedly this game, I would anticipate will have a

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Speaker 1: Do you think Miami KC Is going to be a big.

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Speaker 2: Game, Well, they do what they do.

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Speaker 1: I think that three or four least, Yes, this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was always super talented, so yeah, be interesting

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Speaker 2: The Texans like good lord. Yeah, so it's it's a

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Speaker 1: Plucky. That's the word I was gonna about to come

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Speaker 2: And you know, but like even Vikings Falcons, like two teams,

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Speaker 1: But he's got to learn the language, which basically is

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Speaker 1: all you got to do, true, right, I mean you

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Speaker 3: Well, you have to get some timing down with the guys.

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Speaker 1: just you know, you go play football, you know, and

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Speaker 2: Man, Like, come on, you just want to see a circus.

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Speaker 3: That's what you want.

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Speaker 1: I want to see.

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Speaker 3: You want a circus?

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Speaker 1: Mayhem?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you want a circus? You want k what do

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Speaker 2: The latest edision of football follies. You remember those football.

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Speaker 1: Our is our just traded for veteran quarterback better than

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Speaker 4: Who you who?

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Speaker 2: And that will be decided in Viking's Falcons kick.

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Speaker 1: Office next after we've after we've you know, teased that game.

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Speaker 1: How great it's going to be out awful A good lot?

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones, as the obl fan Friday

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Speaker 3: Let me pull him up here. What do you got

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Speaker 3: for us? Tom? You're on one Bill's.

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Speaker 7: Live Good Afternoon Jumps.

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Speaker 3: How are we doing?

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Speaker 7: I got a psycho loge to go question for you?

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Speaker 3: Oh boy?

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Speaker 7: Okay, Well it's a coaching question. Really, do you think

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Speaker 7: the Bill should go heavy dime to cover Chase Higgins

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Speaker 2: I think that's a down and distance answer, Tom, more

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Speaker 1: Right, I'll say this if I mean ah, I'm I'm

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It's almost a game where you want to stop

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Speaker 2: two back, one tight end set, they was the fifty

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Speaker 2: front sometimes right, they don't play five defensive linemen, but

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Speaker 2: they did last week and it worked, right.

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Speaker 3: They took them right out of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know if, yeah, if the Bills

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Speaker 1: have anything like that up there, see where they're going

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Speaker 1: to transform their their identity of their defense. McDermott has

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Speaker 1: never done that before. I imagine that we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: with what we're gonna go. I think that's what it

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Speaker 1: boils down to is how confident are the Bills they

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Speaker 1: can do something against this this Cincinnati offense in the

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Speaker 1: run defense department and still stay covered up in the

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Speaker 1: back end. So I would say dime is probably more

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Speaker 1: prevalent because Miami is a prevalently throwing football team. If

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Speaker 1: you want to change it up, you know, go to

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Speaker 1: defensive linemen, four linebackers and go and then invite them

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Speaker 1: to run, you know, but you got to be able

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Speaker 1: to stop it. You know, you got to get them

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Speaker 1: to third down. I think the problem is if you

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Speaker 1: get him into third and four plus, you got a chance.

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Speaker 1: But this second and one third and half is where

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Speaker 1: you get crushed. You know, you got to win on

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Speaker 1: first and second down, particularly if they're gonna hand the

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Speaker 1: ball off. So I'm you know, you know, Tom and

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Speaker 1: on the west side. I think the Bills invite him

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Speaker 1: to run a little bit because I think they feel

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Speaker 1: like they'll be better in the run game than they

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Speaker 1: were in January.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's fair.

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Speaker 2: I'd feel even better about it if Mixing did not

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Speaker 2: have his best game of the season last week, where

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Speaker 2: he had over one hundred total yards from scrimmage eighty

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Speaker 2: seven on the ground.

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Speaker 1: That's a real problem because here's the thing. The statistics

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Speaker 1: say Cincinnati is not that good offensively, but they stunk

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Speaker 1: the first two weeks of the season so bad because

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Speaker 1: numbers down, so all their numbers look bad. They look

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Speaker 1: like they can't run, they can't pass, all this stuff's going.

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Speaker 1: But they're playing really high at a high level now

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Speaker 1: because they you know, they flipped the switch when Burle

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Speaker 1: got healthy, So all of that makes a difference. I

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Speaker 1: can't really look at the statistics of this game a

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati and say that's the team you're gonna face because

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Speaker 1: it's not so. You know, the Niners, with all the

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Speaker 1: horses they've got up front, they couldn't get Burrow on

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Speaker 1: the ground last week. And you know they got a

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Speaker 1: bunch of playmakers out there, so it's a they're a load,

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Speaker 1: as you well know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to the tweet sheet to crack open

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Speaker 2: some questions there in the obl Friday fan mail bag,

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Speaker 2: and we begin with Nick, who asks, once he's fully

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Speaker 2: acclimated into the offense, does Fournett get more snaps per

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Speaker 2: game than Murray. I think it's possible because of some

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Speaker 2: of the things we just mentioned earlier. He offers you

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Speaker 2: more on third down because he is a more dangerous

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Speaker 2: pass catching threat. The other thing we should note is

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Speaker 2: he has not had a lot of opportunities in terms

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Speaker 2: of carries this season, but with the each successive week,

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Speaker 2: Latavius Murray's yards per carry average has been coming down, down,

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Speaker 2: down down. I mean earlier in the season, you know,

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Speaker 2: he was up around four point six per carry, and

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Speaker 2: now I believe he's a yard under that. I want

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Speaker 2: to say he is three point six on the year.

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Speaker 2: I'll double check it, but I think I'm right on that.

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Speaker 1: So some of that, some of that has to do

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Speaker 1: with the situations. He's being short. Short yardage, Yeah, short yardage, dude,

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Speaker 1: and that, and so that drags it down quick, particularly

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Speaker 1: when that's the bulk of your carries.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, three point six.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm not too worried about the yards per carry

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Speaker 1: because of the situational nature of how they use they're

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Speaker 1: using him, So but I'm with you. If they feel

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Speaker 1: like and and here's the thing too, the guy's in

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Speaker 1: his early thirties. If they feel like he's gonna wear down, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they want Fournette to be one more fresh set

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Speaker 1: of legs and give Murray, you know, a handful of

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Speaker 1: carries a game that he can really get out and

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Speaker 1: go rather than that. And for Nette, like we said,

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Speaker 1: if you get a guy off the street or whatever

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Speaker 1: and he comes in he acclimates, man, you kind of

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Speaker 1: want to feed him right off the bat, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 1: They don't know where he's at, they don't know what

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Speaker 1: he's like. They don't know you know, the other team

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Speaker 1: hasn't seen him play in your jerseys. You know, I

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Speaker 1: don't even know what he's gonna do for your offense

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Speaker 1: or what he's gonna be capable of doing. So get

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Speaker 1: him out there and the element of we don't know

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Speaker 1: what's going on here is going to help you a

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Speaker 1: little bit against Cincinnati defense that hasn't seen the guy.

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Speaker 1: There's that, you know. Teach the guy like six you

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Speaker 1: heard it. They ran like a dozen concepts last week.

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Speaker 1: Give him half of those and see what he can do.

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Speaker 1: And when he comes in, we run one of them

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Speaker 1: right the half the RPO's passing game and then the

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the run game if he wants it.

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Speaker 2: Now, what do you think of this new defensive answer

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Speaker 2: to the RPO game. The Jets unveiled it against the

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles earlier this season and actually with them to

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Speaker 2: beat him. We were talking to Daniero Loovski on Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: He wouldn't be surprised if Cincinnati turns to it as well.

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Speaker 2: What happens is knowing that the Bill's offense is RPO centric, so.

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Speaker 3: Too is Cincinnati's.

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Speaker 2: For what it's worth, he's wondering if Cincinnati will crowd

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Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage with six seven defenders to force

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Speaker 2: Josh to take the run play off and run a

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Speaker 2: pass play and then at the snap drop everybody out

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Speaker 2: and basically rush two or three guys and drop eight.

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Speaker 2: That's what the Jets did to Philadelphia. They beat him

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Speaker 2: first loss of the season, and other teams have followed

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Speaker 2: suit here in successive weeks to defeat the RPO game.

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Speaker 2: You think Cincinnati might turn to that.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a copycat league, and yeah, they'll try it.

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Speaker 1: They'll put it in their arsenal for sure.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if the Bill should too. Why not, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean we've seen Sean McDermott use simulated pressures already

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Speaker 2: this season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe not to that degree, but.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all of this stuff is probably on the table,

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Speaker 1: no question, Brandon. But it comes down to, you know,

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Speaker 1: when's your coordinator gonna call it? You know, when's he

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Speaker 1: gonna feel like it'll work. When's he gonna feel like

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Speaker 1: they're running this RPO stuff? And are they gonna run

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Speaker 1: this RPO stuff like time after time after time? Are

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Speaker 1: we gonna have to keep doing this? Are they are

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Speaker 1: we gonna all of a sudden start to you know,

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Speaker 1: you can't do the same defense against the same thing

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Speaker 1: every time. They'll they'll nick you all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: and the same same thing. Can't run the same play

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Speaker 1: over and over offensively, which is.

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Speaker 2: Why I think they've got to be a lot more

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Speaker 2: complex this week than they were last week with the off.

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Speaker 3: Offensive game plan.

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Speaker 2: Because this this coordinator, he's gonna catch on real quill

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Speaker 2: dial it in fast.

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Speaker 1: It seems like they do that. Yeah, uh Ana Romo

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Speaker 1: has been really good, really good this listen. They're they're

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Speaker 1: contender for a reason now. Conversely, so the team they're

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Speaker 1: playing this week. McDermott and Dorsey and all these guys

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Speaker 1: are dialed into so we can we can holler all

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Speaker 1: we want about the Bills, you know, whether they sputter

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Speaker 1: or do this or that, or the injuries and all

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Speaker 1: that stuff. There's still a tough team to be This

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Speaker 1: is a great game and Cincinnati's not looking past him,

583
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Speaker 1: no question. This is a game people want to see

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Speaker 1: because the Bills are in this current point history of

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Speaker 1: measuring stick for a lot of teams, because of Josh

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Speaker 1: and because of the defense, and because all their guys

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Speaker 1: uh Burrow and his crew are the exact same, They're

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Speaker 1: the exact same. That's why this is this is a

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Speaker 1: huge game. These two coordinators defensively, They're they're facing two

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Speaker 1: of the offense in the end of a handful of

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Speaker 1: offense in the NFL that are hard to get. You know,

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Speaker 1: they're hard to defend. They're hard to defend. Steph Diggs

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Speaker 1: is having a better season just by a hair than

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Speaker 1: Chase Uh, than Levart Chase, Jamar Chase, He's having a

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Speaker 1: better season by a hair than Jamar Chase is. They're

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Speaker 1: both right up at the top. Joe Burrow Josh Josh

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Speaker 1: is in the the MVP of conversation. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: they got some guys both these squads. So it's that's

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Speaker 1: the measuring stick for these two defenses, is how they're

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Speaker 1: gonna do it? And do they have to come up

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Speaker 1: with something like Ana Roumo comes up with something cockamamie

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Speaker 1: like five down fifty front Bills don't do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they really don't change their spots.

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Speaker 1: Bills don't do that. So it's it's it's fun to

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Speaker 1: think about and watch, but I don't know that it

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Speaker 1: comes down to the players on the field as much

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Speaker 1: as it does the the coordinators calling the stuff and

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Speaker 1: the creativeness of the of the offensive guys. You gotta

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Speaker 1: have a plan for it. But I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: just don't think the Bills are going to change their

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Speaker 1: spots defensively like the Bengals seem to like to do.

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Speaker 2: This week's winner is Michelle, who asks Steve going into

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Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety five Dolphins playoff game. Did you think

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Speaker 2: you were going to have one hundred eight yards receiving

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Speaker 1: I did not. There's a lot of that was this

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Speaker 1: It turned out he retired after this, and I didn't

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Speaker 1: The story I tell I remember about this game. I

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Speaker 1: one hundred and eight yards and a touchdown in the

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Speaker 1: first half, and it was going good. And the thing

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Speaker 1: I don't know whether it was my I think it

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Speaker 1: was my only touchdown. Came right and put it like

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Speaker 1: twenty eight to three or something, and that really kind

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Speaker 1: of drove the nail in the coffin in. They were

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Speaker 1: done after that, and I remember before I scored it,

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins were gonna punt. And one of my closest

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Speaker 1: friends ever is the punter for the Dolphins, John Kid,

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Speaker 1: who is a fifth round draft pick of the Bills.

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Speaker 1: I played with him here for a couple of years,

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Speaker 1: then he went to San Diego. Then he was back

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Speaker 1: with the Dolphins and he punted for them for like

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Speaker 1: three years. And I had told my buddy John bro,

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Speaker 1: if I ever return a punt against you for a touchdown,

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Speaker 1: I will embarrass you myself in the entire National Football

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Speaker 1: League with my celebration. We will people will talk about

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Speaker 1: it for fifty years. If I score on you, I

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Speaker 1: will absolutely go nuts. They run a fake punt, He's

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Speaker 1: gonna punt it to me. They run a fake punt,

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Speaker 1: and by this time, you know, I'm in my eleventh

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Speaker 1: year or whatever, and he's in his like thirteenth year

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Speaker 1: or twelfth year. We're old. And he takes off and

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Speaker 1: runs for the first down and I'm going down to

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Speaker 1: tackle him, and he's about to get he's he kind

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Speaker 1: of makes a move. He I'm coming in and I'm

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Speaker 1: I cover kicks. I'm ready to tackle him, right I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna go out and I'm you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna light my boy up. This is a touchdown right here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna light him up because this is

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Speaker 1: the old day. There's no player safety man like, just

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Speaker 1: so I'm I'm gonna come in and clean up on him.

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Speaker 1: And he sees me and he's gonna cut back. We

676
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Speaker 1: both have this huge plan where we're gonna he's gonna

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Speaker 1: embarrass me and I'm gonna crush him. He plants to

678
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Speaker 1: cut back, slot slips and pulls a hammy. I I

679
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Speaker 1: twing my hammy and the same thing, and instead of

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Speaker 1: embarrassing each other or me, we're both laying on the

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Speaker 1: ground hurt, and we talk about it to this day.

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Speaker 1: I think I made it off. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I ever actually went down, but I made it off

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Speaker 1: the field. I didn't play the rest of the day.

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Speaker 1: I didn't play the second half, and I actually had

686
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Speaker 1: to take a needle to play the next week in Pittsburgh,

687
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Speaker 1: where we lost. But that game was Don Shoota's final

688
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: game and we lit him up. It was good. The

689
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Speaker 1: Canadian comment Timmy Tyndale going in for the big long

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00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: one late in the game. It was great. But that

691
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: was in ninety five, when after playing in nine or

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Speaker 1: ten years, well eleven years in the league, I finally

693
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Speaker 1: got a chance to play receiver on a regular base

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Speaker 1: because there was a train wreck or something. We had

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Speaker 1: like nine guys hurt and they finally had to put

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Speaker 1: me in and Jim.

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Speaker 2: It was basically you Billy Brooks.

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Speaker 1: And and I think it was. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it was Russell Copeland. I think it was. But they

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Speaker 1: put me in. Jim had been lobbying, saying he wanted

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Speaker 1: me to play a lot he wanted because I was,

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Speaker 1: you know, nice one on one guy, and I could

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Speaker 1: read Jim's mind about what he wanted his receivers to do.

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Speaker 1: And I was always where he wanted me to be,

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Speaker 1: and he loved it. Right, So we so when I

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Speaker 1: got in there, forget about who the play was called to,

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Speaker 1: Jim was throwing it to me. So I was looking

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Speaker 1: like I was a world beater because Jim was like

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Speaker 1: making a point about I told.

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Speaker 2: You, just didn't they put Lewis Oliver on you or

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Speaker 2: somebody like somebody that was really tough tall.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't Lewis and not built his load to the ground.

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Speaker 1: They the way there, the way Oliva Dotti had adjusted

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Speaker 1: his defense. The defensive coordinator for the Dolphins, Tom and

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Speaker 1: Oliva Dotty. He brought when we got into a when

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Speaker 1: we shifted into something, they brought a safety down. And

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Speaker 1: yeah he couldn't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you want a safety, that's yeah.

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Speaker 1: The touchdown I caught. I didn't even run that good route.

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Speaker 1: I mean I just went I just bent it out

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Speaker 1: and went to the corner. I outran him and uh

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Speaker 1: caught it. And I was telling, I told I called

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Speaker 1: the play, or I said, Jim, if that guy comes down,

724
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Speaker 1: that safety comes down, you see him throw it to me.

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Speaker 1: He cannot cover me. And uh lo and behold he

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Speaker 1: did it. He told me good, he had a good call.

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Speaker 1: After we high double high fived after a good call.

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Speaker 1: It's the only time it ever happen. But yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was the thing I remember about that game. Wasn't my

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Speaker 1: that I was playing good and doing all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: It was it was Don Shula's last game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I rememberretty While we pivot from and

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Speaker 2: congratulations to Michelle, our winner this week. And excuse me,

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Speaker 2: mister tasker, you'll be getting a mystery box of Bill's memorabilia.

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Speaker 2: Good luck with opening that up. That should be fun.

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Speaker 2: But we pivot now to Soundbits, which, as we know,

737
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Speaker 2: is presented by Tim Horton's In this week's edition, some

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Speaker 2: Bill's newcomers react to joining the team. Josh Allen prepares

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00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: for the Bengals rematch. Let's listen in now to sound bits.

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Speaker 8: Obviously, last couple of days acquired a couple of players, Rasulle,

741
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 8: Douglas by Trey. He really found his groove in Green Bay.

742
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Speaker 8: And you know, obviously we've been looking at corners for

743
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 8: weeks now since Trey went down, and teams aren't openly

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Speaker 8: willing to give those. And it wasn't easy. It was

745
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Speaker 8: back and forth. Green Bay did not want to lose him.

746
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Speaker 8: You know, it took you know, a couple of days.

747
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 8: I mean I called on him even last week, and

748
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Speaker 8: you know, they they were not planning to do it,

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Speaker 8: but we finally made it attractive enough for them to

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Speaker 8: do it.

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Speaker 9: I watched Uhlis from from you know, watching Green Bay games.

752
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Speaker 9: I just met him for the first time out there. Obviously,

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Speaker 9: it seems like a great dude. And and uh, I

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Speaker 9: know from watching them on TV, just the plays that

755
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 9: he's made and and uh, you know, physical play that

756
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Speaker 9: he's been able to to show on TV. I'm I

757
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 9: love it. Uh and uh, I know he's gonna be

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Speaker 9: able to help out this secondary and help out this defense.

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Speaker 10: I came here to play and make plays for this organization.

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Speaker 10: So that's really my focus is doing whatever the team

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Speaker 10: need need to do, whether it's this week, next week,

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Speaker 10: whatever week it may be, and just play my heart up.

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Speaker 10: They've been close but haven't. Yeah, it finished. Just just

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Speaker 10: trying to get over that hump. So that was my

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Speaker 10: insue thoughts.

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Speaker 11: You know, to have a guy like that on our team, man,

767
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Speaker 11: it's gonna make us way better. You know, losing Tray

768
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Speaker 11: was tough, and you know you got a Russua to

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Speaker 11: kind of you know, feel that void kind of you

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Speaker 11: can you can never feel it all the way up

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Speaker 11: because Trey Trey White is Trey White. But you're going

772
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Speaker 11: to have Rassoul on our team is uh is uh

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Speaker 11: is huge for us.

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Speaker 12: They got a lot left in the tank to play,

775
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Speaker 12: So it was all about the right opportunity with the

776
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Speaker 12: right team. But Josh doing a great job and uh

777
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Speaker 12: the guys they brought along for the offense also defense

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Speaker 12: wise too. Uh, it's tremendous guys and that's going to

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Speaker 12: ball all across the board.

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Speaker 6: It feels good to be here one and this defense

781
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Speaker 6: is the defense I played in Minnesota attacking for to

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Speaker 6: three and it's nice to feel that again. So just

783
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Speaker 6: being out here, get a chance to do the things

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Speaker 6: that used to do. It feels really really good. This

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Speaker 6: demon special. You know, the locker room is special, the

786
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Speaker 6: guys is special. I know I'm new here, but I

787
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Speaker 6: feel like I've been here in this whole season, just

788
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Speaker 6: off of the meeting, just being here in the last

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Speaker 6: twenty four hours.

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Speaker 13: They score points, and they can score points on the ground,

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Speaker 13: they can score points in the air. You know, one

792
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Speaker 13: of the top quarterbacks in the league, one of the

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Speaker 13: top receiving group scores in the league, you know, and

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Speaker 13: so I just you know, we're coffing our team, yes,

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Speaker 13: but we know the challenge that Liza.

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Speaker 14: What it is going to be one of those games

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Speaker 14: We're gonna have to play extremely well to win and

798
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Speaker 14: find ways to take the football away. But you know,

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Speaker 14: it's a really good offense with you know, really good

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Speaker 14: skill position players and you know, a solid offensive line,

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Speaker 14: and so you know, when they're able to get in

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Speaker 14: a rhythm and you know, Burrough's able to get into

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Speaker 14: a rhythm and put the ball on these receivers and

804
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Speaker 14: you know, you know there's there's yards after catch, and

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Speaker 14: so you know it's gonna be a big task for us.

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Speaker 14: We had a great day today at practice. Just continue

807
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Speaker 14: to prepare, and continue to just evolve as a as

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Speaker 14: a defense.

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Speaker 15: Oh, we got to start faster. We got to play

810
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Speaker 15: together as a team, three dimensional. And however the game

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Speaker 15: ends after that, win or lose or draw, then I

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Speaker 15: can put my head down Tonight.

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Speaker 12: They got a lot of challenges that I've got a

814
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Speaker 12: great offense, you know what I mean, a great quarterback,

815
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Speaker 12: great receivers that can spread the ball around, run the ball.

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Speaker 4: So we just got to execute.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it's hard to tell exactly how guys are gonna feel,

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Speaker 16: exactly how I'm gonna feel. You know, I'm trying to

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Speaker 16: take it as the It's a normal game. You know,

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Speaker 16: we don't make any any bigger or less than the

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Speaker 16: previous or the next one. But I'm sure there's gonna

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Speaker 16: be a lot of emotions flown through some guys there

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Speaker 16: and being back on that field, especially tomorrow. But you know,

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Speaker 16: at the same time, we got we got a job

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Speaker 16: to do, and we got to figure out how how

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Speaker 16: we can either use it to motivate us or put

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Speaker 16: it behind us and focus towards you know, the game

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Speaker 16: on Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: So that is sound bits presented by Tim Horton's We

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Speaker 2: Take a Break here, but back to your phone calls

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Speaker 2: when we return Mark in Jersey City. W'll lead us

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Speaker 2: oh three oh five fifty as the obl fan Friday

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Speaker 2: Jersey City next.

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Speaker 3: What do you got for us? Mark?

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Speaker 17: A good afternoon, gentlemen. Oh Justin Armor was the other

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Speaker 17: receiver that.

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Speaker 3: Year, Steve Justin Armor. Wow.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, that's a real blast from the past. But they

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Speaker 17: Bills are going to be completely different team on Sunday.

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Speaker 17: So so the Bengals, I mean, their back end, the

847
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 17: middle of their defense, Von Bell, Jesse Bates are gone.

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Speaker 17: Eli Apple was a pest that game. For some reason,

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Speaker 17: he's gone. Not that many people take him seriously. I

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Speaker 17: think I told you see be Mike and is the

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00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 17: guy that the Bills have to watch him and Logan

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00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 17: Wilson tell you exactly what their defense is going to

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00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 17: do every time. It's not like they beat up the

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Speaker 17: forty nine ers last week. The forty nine ers constantly

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Speaker 17: shot themselves in the foot. I know the Bengals had

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Speaker 17: a red zone turnover themselves, but I believe forty nine

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Speaker 17: ers had like two. It was insane the way they

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Speaker 17: exchanged those. And the Bills were a mass unit psychologically

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Speaker 17: and physically. I even even at Oliver had his shoulder

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00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 17: and a harness. Never really talked about that much. But

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Speaker 17: the Bill's defense is almost I don't you could do

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Speaker 17: the numbers. Their linebacker unit is different Bernard and and

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Speaker 17: I don't know if it's going to be Williams, and

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Speaker 17: then the secondary. There was no hide that the corners

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Speaker 17: are different. Elam and White started the game at corner

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Speaker 17: and Dean Marlow was the other safety and Poyer was

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Speaker 17: a mummy last year. So this this is going to

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Speaker 17: be a completely different unit. And up front they're completely

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Speaker 17: different helpwise, So that's I think that's what's going to

870
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 17: make it very interesting to see the chest pieces, how

871
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 17: they're used at full health this year for the Bills.

872
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that, And you're right, Mike Hilton.

873
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: Their nickel corner is he's a dog man that guy

874
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: plays physical brand of football, came over from the Steelers,

875
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 2: really good player for them. Like he's right up there

876
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: with Tarren Johnson and he's a little bit bigger too.

877
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, it is a different game. I don't think

878
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 2: there's any question about that. And I'm really I want

879
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: to believe that the Bills are going to bring some

880
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: extra juice into this thing. That is a tough environment

881
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: to play. We know that, but you know, you still

882
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: see the Bengals chirping this week, you know, Tyler Boyd

883
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 2: bringing up the whole snow comment by Isaiah McKenzie again,

884
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 2: and like I'm sitting here in this chair and I'm

885
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 2: tired of it. Like can you imagine what the guys

886
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: in the locker room like, they got to be fed up,

887
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 2: Like let's shut these jokers up already, you know what

888
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 2: I mean. But then you look at this, You look

889
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 2: at the last five games, Steve and the Bills have

890
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 2: traded wins for losses every week, win loss, win, loss, win,

891
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: And it's like, you gotta get back to a consistent

892
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: level of play and start stacking some wins here.

893
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, And what it comes down to for all of

894
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: us out here.

895
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 4: Is that.

896
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: This this game as much as we for us, it's

897
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: another game with Cincinnati. We just had the playoff game

898
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: eight months ago, and then before that, it was a

899
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: Monday Night game that we saw a little bit of,

900
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: and you know, so this is another one of those games.

901
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: But these it's virtually a vastly different defense of the

902
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: Bills are putting out there. It's a vastly different defense

903
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: of the Bengals are putting out there. And it's a

904
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: different group offensively for the Bills as well, a different

905
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: kind of you know, it's still Josh and Diggs, but

906
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: it's also Cook and Kincaid as well. I mean, and

907
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of different elements in this game.

908
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: We don't know how it's gonna play out. We don't

909
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: know how it's gonna play out. What you know, it's

910
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: the old adage and it's why they got to play

911
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: the game. But nothing about those other games. It feels

912
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 1: to me, this feels like a vastly different game for

913
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills than it was eight months ago or

914
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: nine months ago for the Monday Night game. It just

915
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: feels like a vastly different atmosphere, different team, different vibe.

916
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: You know, a lot more players that are differently important.

917
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: Vaughn was hurt that you know then, and I don't know,

918
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,479
Speaker 1: you know, how how's Vaughn gonna play this week this year?

919
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 1: In this game, you just don't know. The Bengals don't

920
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: sack the quarterback very much. They got one guy with

921
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: eight sacks and the whole team has twelve. So they

922
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: got you know, Dicken, what's his name, Dickens, what's his name, Dixon?

923
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: What's the the sack guy's name for Cincinnati Hendrickson, Trey Hendrickson.

924
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 3: Eight sax.

925
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got eight sacks. Nobody, you know, they got

926
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 1: four as a team. Aside from that, they don't sack

927
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: the quarterback, so you would think Josh gonna have a

928
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: chance to throw the football where he wants to throw it.

929
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: You know, it's just a lot in this game that

930
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: you don't know about. I'm it's it's really interesting when

931
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: you get when you bore down on it about the

932
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: personnel differences than what it was in January, about where

933
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: the differences are the team, when the teams, you know, uh,

934
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: it's just really gonna be an interesting game. It's it

935
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: is a difficult game. I mean, both these clubs are

936
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: looking at a good team and you'd like to see

937
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: your team measure up somehow, some way. But you said it,

938
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: I mean you just don't. This is this will pick

939
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: him game to me, and the Bengals are favored for

940
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: a reason.

941
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to Mark in West Seneca. From one

942
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: Mark to another. What do you got for us?

943
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 5: Mark?

944
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 2: Hey?

945
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 18: Guys today?

946
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 3: Good hey.

947
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 18: I was listening to Steve talk about getting into that

948
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 18: game and catching all the you know, one hundred yards

949
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 18: and TV and all that. Uh, and it arose in

950
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 18: me one of my pet peeves, which for pro sports,

951
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 18: and I see it in hockey more than football. But

952
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 18: guys who are talented and they get pigeonholed into roles

953
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 18: teams and need them to fill and then don't truly

954
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 18: get opportunities to show what they can do. More than that, Steve,

955
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 18: I'm sure you're very happy with how your career panned

956
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 18: out and everything, but I was curious as to how

957
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 18: you truly feel about the fact that you never really

958
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 18: did get an opportunity to show what you could do

959
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 18: as a wide receiver. You mentioned several times that Jim

960
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 18: used to bang the drum for you to play more

961
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 18: and all that and as Jim was seeing it. I

962
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 18: don't understand how coaches weren't, And it's sort of for me,

963
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 18: correlates a little bit to Gabe Davis on the current roster.

964
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 18: Gabe has been here and he's typically runs certain routes,

965
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 18: deep threat sideline routes typically for the most part, and then,

966
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 18: for whatever reason, last week, Dorrisey decided to give him

967
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 18: opportunities to run routes we typically didn't see him do,

968
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 18: and he had a career day, huge production. Again, a

969
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 18: guy pigeonholed into doing a certain thing to make the

970
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 18: offense work a certain way, but then doesn't get an

971
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 18: opportunity to show what he can truly do in other situations.

972
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 18: And I hope that doesn't continue. I hope Dorsey is

973
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 18: up this week to the challenge of going against an

974
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 18: Oamo or however you say his name Amo. Yeah, I mean,

975
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 18: because that guy is eye quality defensive coordinator and right

976
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 18: up there with the best in the league. So I

977
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 18: think that's where the game is going to be won.

978
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 18: I really truly think it's going to be the scheme

979
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 18: Dorsey comes up with in the game against him, and

980
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 18: then if it's not working, can he change quick enough

981
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 18: to really be a threat after that. But Steve, I

982
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 18: was really curious, how do you feel about all that?

983
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 7: Thanks, guys, Yeah.

984
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can see it happen. You're right, I'm I

985
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: wouldn't change too much about my career. I might have

986
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: dodged a big hit or two, but other than that,

987
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't change much. And I was never bitter about it.

988
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: It was hard to get on that team. It was

989
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: a hard roster to make, let alone contribute to, and

990
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: I was sitting over there. They ran three wides a lot,

991
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: and the logic behind me not playing wide receiver a

992
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: little bit of it was I would have been the

993
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: third guy because you had James Loft and Andre Reid.

994
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: Both of them, by the way, were in the Hall

995
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: of Fame. So you're not gonna put me ahead of

996
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: the pecking order any one of those guys, either one

997
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 1: of those guys. So if I go in and play

998
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: third wide receiver, are you going to get more out

999
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: of me at third wide receiver? Are you going to

1000
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: get more out of me as an All Pro Special

1001
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: teams guy? And that they made that decision, and I

1002
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: was fine with it. I'm and I probably had a

1003
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: longer career as a special teams player than I would

1004
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: have as a wide receiver because I had trouble staying

1005
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 1: healthy as a wide receiver.

1006
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 3: It's that simple, and some.

1007
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: Of that probably does go on today in today's game.

1008
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 1: I don't think that much has changed.

1009
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Gabe Davis, I think you could at

1010
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: least make the argument that Mark is making that he

1011
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: has been somewhat pigeonholed running those deeper, more down the

1012
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 2: field routes, which inherently are lower percentage plays, lower percentage

1013
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: completions he runs underneath routes. I mean I almost fell

1014
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: out of my chair when he ran a quick slant

1015
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 2: last week.

1016
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 3: I was like, when.

1017
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 2: We've last seen that. I don't know if we've ever

1018
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 2: seen it from Gabe Davis. And it was the result

1019
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 2: was a single game career high nine receptions. So I

1020
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: think there's something to be said for that, and you

1021
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 2: kind of hope, like watching it back on film, they're like,

1022
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: you know what, we got to do more of this?

1023
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 3: You got to do more of this.

1024
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: No question, opportunities come from coaching decisions. You can earn

1025
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: more by playing well, but even the chance to earn

1026
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: more comes with an opportunity, right, is because of an opportunity.

1027
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: So there's a lot in that, and I'm not you know,

1028
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: we're not gonna You'll never give everybody every opportunity they

1029
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: could ever want. And some guy's careers are changed by it.

1030
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: Who knows. I know this is not a deliberate attempt

1031
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: to keep Gabe Davis down, that's for sure. It's just

1032
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: like it wasn't for me either. So they're trying to

1033
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: win games, and sometimes you get caught up and guys

1034
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 1: get overlooked or whatever. It's just the mechanics of being

1035
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: a human being. I think more than anything.

1036
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 3: We've got to take a break here.

1037
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: But Greg co Sell, senior producer from NFL Films, joins

1038
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 2: us next to dice up Bill's Bengals Here on one

1039
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented by Colide of Health.

1040
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 3: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1041
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 5: These on Bill's Live, presented by calllighta Health.

1042
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 2: All Right, our number two on a Friday means only

1043
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: one thing. Senior producer from NFL Films, Greg co Sale,

1044
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: joining us, also host of ESPN's NFL Matchup Show. And

1045
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 2: might this be a matchup that shows up on that

1046
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,959
Speaker 2: said program. We'll find out in a second. But every

1047
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: appearance by one Greg co Sale is brought to you

1048
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 2: by Scott Lonyard, an official commercial site where partner of

1049
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. Does it make the cut this week?

1050
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,439
Speaker 4: Greg, Well, I'm glad to see you guys are rocking

1051
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 4: the sweatshirts. And yes it's a full segment game, Brownie.

1052
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 4: So yeah, it kind of made the cut because it's

1053
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 4: one of the biggest games on the schedule.

1054
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: Well, we always go casual Friday, which is why this

1055
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: and you always go shirt and tie Friday.

1056
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 4: So taping well, because we shoot the matchup show every

1057
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 4: Friday morning.

1058
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: I know.

1059
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 4: So you dress up one required to look at least

1060
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 4: semi classy.

1061
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 3: Steve.

1062
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: You know, we dressed down once a week. You dress

1063
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: up once a week. That's all there is.

1064
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 4: There, you go, there, you go, Givens night.

1065
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about this? What's the matchup looked

1066
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: like to you guys?

1067
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I think one thing that we looked

1068
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 4: hard at in this game was the Bengals on first

1069
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 4: down because over the last three weeks, Joe Burrow has

1070
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 4: been ridiculously good throwing the ball on first down. In fact,

1071
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 4: he's forty three for fifty two throwing the ball on

1072
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 4: first down the last three weeks, So that's something I

1073
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 4: think that needs to be dealt with. Most coaches, most

1074
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 4: defensive players would tell you that first down is normally

1075
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 4: the best down to throw on. So I think that's

1076
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 4: something that the Bills defense has to be extremely aware

1077
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 4: of and they have to do something to minimize that.

1078
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 4: You're not going to take it away, but you need

1079
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 4: to minimize it.

1080
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 2: We'll get into more of the matchup in just a

1081
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 2: second here, but the Bills have three new additions to

1082
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 2: the roster. Lyn Vall Joseph, the defensive tackle, signs as

1083
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 2: a free agent. He's thirty five years old, but he

1084
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: played eight games for the Eagles last year and looks

1085
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: like he still got a little juice left in the tank.

1086
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 2: And we know the Bills are still trying to shore

1087
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 2: up their run front after the loss of Daikwon Jones

1088
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 2: for the rest of the season, potentially with the torn peck.

1089
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 2: How do you see him coming in and being a

1090
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: help here? What's his skill set?

1091
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 4: Well, Brownie, all I can tell you is what he

1092
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 4: did last year. He came off the couch last year,

1093
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 4: just as he's coming off the couch this year. And

1094
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 4: he played really really well for the Eagles as their

1095
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 4: basic you know Nos one technique, did a really good

1096
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 4: job in the run game. That's his thing. He's a

1097
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 4: strong interior presence. He can hold up at the point

1098
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 4: of attack, he can stealmate blocks, he can still defeat

1099
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 4: double teams at times. So again, all I have to

1100
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 4: go on is what he did a year ago. Let's

1101
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,959
Speaker 4: assume he's the same player. Then he's a very very

1102
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 4: strong interior un defender.

1103
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: And what about Rasuel Douglas from the Packers.

1104
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 4: Here, Rasoul Douglas is an interesting guy, Steve. He's been

1105
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 4: in the league quite a while. He's played both outside

1106
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 4: and in the slot. Obviously they got him to play

1107
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 4: outside because he's not going to play in the slot.

1108
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 4: You know, he's always been a guy that's been a

1109
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 4: really good kind of gear and clewer of routes and

1110
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 4: the ball. So, uh, you know, they're obviously looking for

1111
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 4: help at corner. That was that's clearly, you know, something

1112
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 4: that that they've struggled with this year. They've been playing

1113
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 4: Bedford and Jackson on the outside. You guys might know

1114
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 4: more obviously being in the building is is he likely

1115
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 4: to be one of the starters on the outside.

1116
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 2: Not this week, probably not this I wouldn't expect it

1117
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 2: this week, but maybe in due time.

1118
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 1: Yes, he is he an eyes on the quarterback kind

1119
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: of corner.

1120
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, he's he's Yeah, he's in that mold, Steve.

1121
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 4: You know you've seen guys in your career. I'm sure

1122
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 4: I remember with the Eagles of Sante, Samuel was very

1123
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 4: much like that. You know, I always use the term

1124
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 4: keyer and cleer. They sort of read the receiver through

1125
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 4: to the quarterback and they're very willing to jump route.

1126
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 4: So every once in a while they get beat. If

1127
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken. Didn't they attack him last year when

1128
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 4: the Bills played the Packers? Didn't they catch him on

1129
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 4: a double move?

1130
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 3: They did, But he also had an interception in that game.

1131
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 4: So yeah, but I remember the double mover. It just

1132
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 4: popped into my head. Yeah, because that's the kind of

1133
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 4: corner that he is. But he can make plays on

1134
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 4: the ball. He's always been that guy.

1135
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that game last year is a microcosm of

1136
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: who he is as a player.

1137
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 4: I think it is. That's a great point, Brownie, I

1138
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 4: think you're right.

1139
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 2: Moving ahead, though, the Bills last week used their dime

1140
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 2: package with three safeties on the field on thirty eight

1141
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 2: percent of their snaps. It's the most extensive use of

1142
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 2: it we've seen with coach McDermott as the play caller,

1143
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 2: and for the most part, it worked pretty well. Poyer

1144
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 2: was a demon up close to the line of scrimmage

1145
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 2: there last week. Yeah, racked up a ton of tackles.

1146
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: We already know he's a very good blitzer. This chiefly

1147
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 2: is their answer to replacing Milano at the second level

1148
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:12,959
Speaker 2: in pass coverage. How much do or should we anticipate

1149
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: this being used going forward?

1150
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 4: I mean, that's obviously they did that. They played twenty

1151
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 4: two snaps of dime against the Bucks. You know, I

1152
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,959
Speaker 4: don't know if they would do that on first down. Look,

1153
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 4: the one thing, here's what we do know. We do

1154
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 4: know that the Bengals are a very very high percentage

1155
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 4: eleven personnel offense, meaning that they are going to play

1156
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 4: with three wide receivers on the field. I think they

1157
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 4: play well over eighty percent of their offensive snaps with

1158
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 4: three wide receivers. Then it gets Brownie to be situational.

1159
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 4: Do you do that on first down? Are you doing

1160
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 4: that only on second and long or third? Down. I

1161
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 4: guess we won't know the answer to that. My guess

1162
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 4: is on first down they will not play dime. But

1163
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 4: you know, I think that that will be a meaningful

1164
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 4: part of what they do when you get into those

1165
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 4: longer yarded situations. For sure, it was effective player is

1166
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 4: really good in that spot. And then you still have

1167
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 4: hide uh and and uh wrap on the back end.

1168
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 4: So I would expect to see it. It's just a

1169
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 4: matter of how much and and situationally.

1170
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,439
Speaker 1: Are they doing anything in their passing game differently now

1171
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: that Burrow can go under center and his calf seems healthy,

1172
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: obviously they're doing some under center stuff that were they

1173
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: never did when his when his calf was bothering him, right,

1174
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: and you can throw all their statistics out right, I

1175
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: mean they're completely they're doing completely different stuff now that

1176
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: Burrows healthy than they were in the first couple of

1177
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: weeks of the season when they were struggling to get

1178
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: the ball down the field. How have they changed, uh

1179
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: and what are they doing now that they could not

1180
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: do early in the season.

1181
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I think it's it's mostly a function

1182
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 4: of Burrows to you, because he couldn't move very well, right,

1183
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 4: and you could see it on tape. You could see

1184
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 4: that he was very conscious of the fact that he

1185
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 4: couldn't move well. Now he can move well. You know.

1186
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 4: Burrow is not a runner per se, but he's very

1187
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 4: light on his feet. I mean he has you know,

1188
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 4: the term I've heard from some offensive coaches, which I love,

1189
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 4: is he has outstanding operational movement. You know, he can

1190
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 4: move within the pocket exceptionally well, and he can get

1191
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 4: out of the pocket at times too. But you know

1192
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 4: this is this is really an offense that runs through

1193
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 4: the pass game. I mean, they will run the ball.

1194
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 4: It's not as if they never run the ball, but

1195
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 4: it really runs through the pass game in Burrow. You know,

1196
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 4: as I said, they're high percentage eleven personnel, you know,

1197
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 4: so that's how they play. They don't play a lot

1198
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 4: of snaps with two tight ends. They get a lot

1199
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 4: of own coverage because of their wide receivers. Burrow is

1200
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 4: one of the quickest processors in this league versus zone.

1201
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 4: I mean, he reads underneath defenders incredibly quickly and incredibly well,

1202
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 4: and he gets the ball out in a normal situation

1203
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 4: when they're proactive with the passing game, which is why

1204
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 4: I mentioned the first down passing, he's tough to sack.

1205
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 4: The sacks come normally, and their old line is still

1206
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 4: not great, But their sacks come normally in the longer

1207
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 4: yardage situations. When they throw it on first down, they

1208
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 4: don't really get sacked.

1209
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 7: Right.

1210
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 2: We know that the Bills turn to RPO is a

1211
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 2: good deal. So do the Bengals. And I was curious

1212
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: because we saw the Jets very effectively neutralized Philadelphia's RPO

1213
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 2: game a few weeks ago by crowding the line of

1214
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 2: scrimmage to take the runaway and then back everybody out.

1215
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: I'm wondering how much that has been copycatted across the

1216
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 2: league and should we expect something like that from lou Anarumo.

1217
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 4: I guess we don't know, but here's what I will say.

1218
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 4: I would say that you're likely to see the Bills

1219
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 4: continue to use a good dose of no huddle tempo

1220
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 4: because the one thing about no huddle tempo, as you

1221
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 4: guys know, is it shrinks the defensive menu. It forces

1222
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 4: them to show their hand because the ball could be

1223
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 4: snapped at any time. Put the game in Josh's hands,

1224
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 4: Let him determine that, let him see what the front is,

1225
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 4: let him see what the coverage is, and therefore you

1226
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 4: minimize the ability of the defense to jump around pre

1227
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 4: snap and disguised with late rotation. It's hard to do

1228
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 4: that when you're playing against no huddle tempo. As we

1229
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 4: probably talked last week because we spoke after the game,

1230
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 4: but it's worth mentioning again is last week the ball

1231
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 4: came out of Josh Allen's hands from snap to throw

1232
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 4: quicker than in any game in his career, and I

1233
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 4: think a lot of that was indeed a function of

1234
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 4: the no huddle tempo because they played a defense in

1235
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 4: the Bucks a little different than the Bengals, but similar

1236
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 4: in the sense that the Bucks do a lot of

1237
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 4: things as do the Bengals, and it really limits what

1238
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 4: you can do. So again, I'm not saying there'll be

1239
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 4: no huddle tempo on every snap, but I would think

1240
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 4: that's something they would want to continue to really limit

1241
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 4: what the Bengals can show and the disguise and lead

1242
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 4: rotation element of their defense.

1243
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: Their inability to show different and more exotic defense is

1244
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: because of the pace of the offense. Is that the

1245
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: reason or one of the contributing factors as to why

1246
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: so many more guys had so many more passes. It

1247
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: wasn't just you know, digs with fifteen targets.

1248
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 5: Yep.

1249
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: You know what I mean is that is that one

1250
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: of the cause of effects?

1251
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 4: Yes, because now because now scheme becomes more a factor

1252
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 4: Steve as opposed to individual players. You know, obviously you

1253
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 4: always hear, hey, critical situations, you got to go to

1254
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 4: your best guy. But you know, don't forget we talked

1255
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 4: about the first down passing for the Bengals. Well, last

1256
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 4: week Josh was sixteen for twenty for one to fifty

1257
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 4: seven on first down and a lot of that did

1258
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 4: come out of no huddle. So then the scheme becomes

1259
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 4: more of a factor than Hey, we got to feed

1260
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 4: one guy, and that's why Davis was a bigger factor.

1261
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 4: So yes, I mean, I think your point is truly

1262
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 4: well taken. I think that's the reason, because it becomes

1263
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 4: more scheme and tactics driven as opposed to individual driven.

1264
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 2: And then you know, knowing that Buffalo was able to

1265
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 2: utilize other players with great effectiveness in the passing game

1266
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 2: last week, how much more does that how much more

1267
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 2: difficult does that make them to defend across the field

1268
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 2: for the Bengals. I mean, as you know, it's largely

1269
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 2: been the dig show. You know, through the first six

1270
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 2: or seven games. You know, now Kincaid has thirteen catches

1271
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 2: in his last two games, Khalil Shakira as a single

1272
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 2: game career high six for ninety two. Even Gave Davis

1273
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 2: has a regular season, single game career high nine catches

1274
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 2: last week. How much does that muddy the waters for

1275
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 2: the Bengals defense.

1276
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 4: I mean, theoretically it does, but I'll tell you one

1277
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 4: thing I'd look for. We've seen Lou and Orom do

1278
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 4: this over the last number of years. He did it

1279
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 4: last week as well. It's part of what he does.

1280
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 4: It would not surprise me, given the quick nature of

1281
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 4: the past game and how many balls were thrown inside

1282
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 4: the numbers to see him with the three man rush

1283
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 4: and the eight in coverage to get that extra guy

1284
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 4: as an underneath defender. So you know, maybe on those

1285
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 4: quick throws, all of a sudden, Josh is ready to

1286
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 4: turn a loose and boy, there's an extra defender underneath.

1287
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 4: So I would expect to see three man rush, eight

1288
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 4: in coverage with an extra guy in underneath coverage to

1289
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 4: try to take away some of those quick rhythm between

1290
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 4: the numbers. Throws.

1291
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: The Bills play, you know, a ton of zone. They're

1292
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: like eighty percent zone and the Bengals are not, They're

1293
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: like sixty percent zone. Does that mean you think that

1294
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: with a three man rush you can play some man

1295
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: to man and you can double team a couple of

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Speaker 1: guys if you're gonna go eight man drop. But do

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Speaker 1: they you think they'll play more zone because of that

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Speaker 1: with eight guys across the or will they go as

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Speaker 1: much man with a three man front. I mean, they're

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01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 1: not gonna I heard my guess. Why I guess asked

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Speaker 1: is because if they go three man rush, it's almost

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Speaker 1: has to be zone coverage because Josh will just take

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Speaker 1: off and run right.

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Speaker 4: Well, it becomes situational Steve as you know. I mean,

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01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 4: they're not gonna do it on ninety percent of the snaps,

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01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 4: so I think it'll be situational, you know. So it's

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01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 4: hard to know exactly when they would do it, but

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Speaker 4: that's part of what Luenamo does, and he's you know,

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Speaker 4: I remember in the playoffs a few years ago when

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Speaker 4: they first beat the Chiefs in the second half of

1311
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 4: the game, they made the adjustment and they did a

1312
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Speaker 4: lot of three man rush and eight men in coverage.

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01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 4: And you know what they did is they took one

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01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 4: of their pass rushers basically on the side of Kelsey

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01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 4: when Kelsey was close to the formation, and they used

1316
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 4: him to kind of jam Kelsey. So it becomes specific

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Speaker 4: to the opponent, specific to the situation, specific to the personnel.

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01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 4: But it's something that they will do.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I think that they're a team that does that, plays

1321
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 4: man that and that plays zone. You know, they'll play both. Again,

1322
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 4: it'll be situational. You know, an extra underneath defender for

1323
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 4: a quarterback can be tough. I remember listening to Peyton

1324
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 4: Manning on one of the Manning casts, I think it

1325
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 4: was last year, talk about how troublesome that is for

1326
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 4: a quarterback because all of a sudden, you're ready to

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01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 4: turn it loose and there's a guy where you don't

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01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 4: expect them, and so again, you know, it's just something

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01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 4: that will be part of their plan. I'm just real

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01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 4: curious to see how the Bills decide to come out

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01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 4: and play, because I believe that they'll still do some

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01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 4: no huddle temple, you know, a meaningful amount of it.

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01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Bengals have feasted on takeaways you know,

1334
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 2: two interceptions in each of their last three games, which

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Speaker 2: leads me to my last question for you, Greg, how

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Speaker 2: have or how has the new duo at safety performed

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01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 2: on the whole for the Bengals. No Jesse Bates, no

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01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 2: Vie Bell. It's Dax Hill and Nick Scott. Now, I

1339
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 2: know Dax Hill has put a lot of crooked numbers

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01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 2: in the defensive column. He's been productive, but how have

1341
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 2: they worked as a tandem back there thus far?

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01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 3: In your opinion?

1343
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 4: I think it's been solid. And he'll just so you

1344
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 4: guys know, Hill, he's their tight end matchup, so when

1345
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 4: they do play man, he'll be on Kincaid and Hill

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01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 4: has corner traits when he came out of Michigan. I

1347
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,759
Speaker 4: mean he's six feet one ninety, he runs exceptionally well.

1348
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 4: A lot of people, including myself, thought that he could

1349
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 4: line up and play corner in the NFL. So he's

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01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 4: the tight end to matchup. Now they they play mostly

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01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 4: Scott with him, but they also get the rookie Jordan

1352
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 4: Battle from Alabama in the game. At times when they

1353
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 4: play dime, they have two forms of dime. They will

1354
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 4: at times play four corner dime. Okay, we're actually Hilton

1355
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 4: very often Mike Hilton, who we all think of as

1356
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 4: a slot defender. He'll become a deep safety when they

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01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 4: play four corner dime at times, and then of course

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01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,759
Speaker 4: they'll play three safety and three corner dime where Battle

1359
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 4: is the third safety and Hilton remains in the slot.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: But they they are very multiple with their deployment of

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01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 4: personnel and their unpredictability in terms of how they use

1363
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 4: their personnel. So that's that's something you have to be

1364
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 4: aware of. They're going to show you a lot of

1365
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 4: different things. So what it does is that, you know,

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01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 4: it might make it a little more difficult for Ken

1367
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,799
Speaker 4: Dorsey to feel comfortable with exactly what he's calling because

1368
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 4: there's going to be an unpredictability to what Luan Aramo does.

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Speaker 1: Great, great talking to you. Always appreciated. Thanks for spending

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01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: some time with us. We'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 4: Love you guys. Thanks appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 2: That's Greg Coseel, senior producer from NFL Films, joining us

1374
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 2: as he does every Friday.

1375
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 3: He just said he loved us. Wasn't that nice time?

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01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 1: Love you back man?

1377
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 3: What a guy? Yeah, that was kind of cool.

1378
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do throw a lot at you. The amazing

1379
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 2: thing for me is because any coordinator in this league

1380
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 2: can come up with the ideal one week game plan

1381
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 2: that you know, changes things up and gives the opponents

1382
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 2: something they haven't seen before. But you also have the

1383
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 2: have to have the confidence in your players to adapt

1384
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 2: to that change in your scheme as well and then

1385
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 2: execute it in the snap of a finger on a

1386
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 2: given down and distance. And for some reason, Anaroumo is

1387
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 2: able to make those sometimes seemingly seismic changes in his

1388
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 2: defensive scheme, for example last week, playing a fifty front

1389
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 2: against you know, San Francisco when they're a four to

1390
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 2: three defense and make it work. And that's what makes

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01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 2: them so difficult to predict. And that will be the

1392
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 2: challenge in the early going and throughout the game against

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01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:46,839
Speaker 2: lou Anrimo and this Bengals defense.

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01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 1: It's hard for coordinators on either side of the ball,

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01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: offense or defense to put in a defense that transforms

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01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: your identity. The Patriots were good at this for a

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01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: long time. They would they had players that they liked it.

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01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 1: They would just switch their fala from week to week.

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01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 1: They'd go from a three to four to a four

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Speaker 1: to three to a blitzing defense, to a coverage defense,

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01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: to a zone blitz defense, all of that stuff. They

1402
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: had the ability to transform themselves like that. Anna Rumo

1403
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 1: seems to have the guys in the ability to get

1404
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: his players to do that in game. Their ability to

1405
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 1: pick up and do things that are a unexpected and

1406
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 1: be perfect for the to combat the philosophy that you're

1407
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: showing offensively and do it quickly has been really the

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01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: difference in Cincinnati's ability to play defense and get deep

1409
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. You can say what you want about

1410
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and t Higgins and all

1411
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: of that stuff, Joe Mixon and all that. They're good,

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01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 1: but it's as much about their defense and its ability

1413
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: to stop people as it is their offense. So that's

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01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: why that's why they were in the AFC Championship Game

1415
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 1: last year, and that's why they're expected to play well

1416
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 1: and be in that conversation again this year. They're tough

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01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 1: and then they're coaching. Is a reason why.

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01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 2: Both teams injury reports are out for Sunday Night's game.

1419
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 2: We know that Specter and Klein are out. Everybody else

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01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 2: is good to go. According to the injury report. Even

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01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 2: though cornerback Christian Benford was added to the injury report

1422
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 2: with a hamstring injury, he is list He has no

1423
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 2: designation for Sunday's game, which means he is good to play, So.

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01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 3: Something we'll have to keep an eye on.

1425
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 2: If there's a practice squad elevation something of that nature.

1426
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 2: Maybe that's a clue that Benford might be a little gamy,

1427
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 2: shall we say, fit, be fit to play, But as

1428
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 2: a precaution, you know, maybe they have somebody else called

1429
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,799
Speaker 2: up on the roster so they don't get caught short handed.

1430
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 2: As for the Bengals, backup defensive tackle Josh Tupo has

1431
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,759
Speaker 2: a shoulder injury. He is out questionable for the game.

1432
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 2: Running back Joe Mixon, backup linebacker rakeem Davis Gaither, and

1433
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 2: backup guard Max Sharping. Mixon, we should tell you was

1434
01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 2: a full participant in practice today, so he certainly trending

1435
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 2: on the more positive side of questionable for Sunday Night's game.

1436
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:06,759
Speaker 2: And that's kind of where it sits for both teams.

1437
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 2: Both rosters relatively healthy.

1438
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 1: Well relatively healthy with the guys they have left standing.

1439
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 3: With the guys they have left standing that's a good point.

1440
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 2: That's a good point with the players they have left

1441
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 2: to choose from. Shall we say, got to take a

1442
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 2: break here, but when we come back. More of your

1443
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 2: questions from the obl Friday fan mail bag. Still taking

1444
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 2: your phone calls as well at eight h three oh

1445
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 2: five point fifty one eight eight eight five point fifty

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01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 2: two five point fifty open line for you there to

1447
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:32,799
Speaker 2: talk to us.

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01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 3: When we return here.

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01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 2: On one Bill's Live presented by Cold of Health, It's

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01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:53,360
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1452
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills Get Back in the Game, and

1453
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 2: the collision course for this week is the matchup up

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01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 2: front between Bill's left tackle Dion Dawkins and defensive end

1455
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 2: for the Cincinnati Bengals Trey Hendrickson. You already heard Steve

1456
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 2: Mention how Hendrickson has eight sacks on the season in

1457
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 2: seven games played for the Bengals. Thus far, Dion Dawkins

1458
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 2: been playing some pretty good football. People haven't noticed him.

1459
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 2: That's a good thing when an offensive lineman isn't noticed,

1460
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 2: but he's only given up one sack. All season long.

1461
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 2: It's a heavyweight battle here.

1462
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but none, none of them have to play by themselves.

1463
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 1: You can give Dawkins some help, and they will give Dawkins.

1464
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 3: You don't.

1465
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 1: He's a left tackle. He's a very good left tackle,

1466
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: beaving an elite left tackle. You're gonna give some help

1467
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 1: once in a while to a guy with Hendrickson, with

1468
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:50,759
Speaker 1: Hendrickson's ability. So and believe me, from the looks of things,

1469
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: you're not gonna worry too much about the other guys.

1470
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the guy with all the sacks,

1471
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 1: so you're gonna.

1472
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 2: Do Sam Hubbs, a try hard guy gets the sacks

1473
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 2: by the end of the year.

1474
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: Point is, this is the guy that gets the attention.

1475
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna find him and he may or may not

1476
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 1: rush over Dawkins all day, or they may move him around.

1477
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna give somebody some help, you're gonna

1478
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 1: give the guy some help that that's getting that's blocking

1479
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 1: hen Hendrickson, even if it is Dion. So Dion didn

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01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 1: I have to do it by himself. Uh, They'll give

1481
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 1: him some help and and go from there. But yeah,

1482
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 1: once in a while, there's no question he'll have him

1483
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 1: all alone and you got to watch it.

1484
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 3: I mean, the guys you can slide protection that way.

1485
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, you can make sure if you slide the

1486
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 1: protection towards Dion, he knows the only place he's vulnerable

1487
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 1: is to his outside shoulder if he gets bull rushed,

1488
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 1: and that, you know, taking options away from a guy

1489
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 1: makes it easier on the offensive lineman. So yeah, all

1490
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 1: that's possible. And plus if he got you know, a

1491
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 1: guy like Latavious on the outside, and you know you're

1492
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: gonna get a chip from him. As Oatavious releases into

1493
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 1: the route, he comes up and gives a chicken wing

1494
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 1: to Hendricks and that helps you as well. So you know,

1495
01:15:56,960 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: all that's gonna help Dawkins in that battle. But you

1496
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: know that's yeah, that's a guy you gotta find. That

1497
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 1: is the guy you got to find on the front

1498
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 1: four or if it's a fifty front front five.

1499
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 2: I mean there is yeah, winning and getting a sack

1500
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 2: on party seat.

1501
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: In their own end, it's big.

1502
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been taking the ball away.

1503
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 3: They had two picks. They've had two picks.

1504
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 2: In each of their last three games, and you know

1505
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 2: how those coming bunches. The interesting thing is the Bengals

1506
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 2: haven't turned it over much. And I'm a big believer

1507
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:32,879
Speaker 2: in law of averages.

1508
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 3: Stee, They're overdue.

1509
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 2: They're overdue yet, and so are the Bills, who have

1510
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 2: not had an interception in their last four games now,

1511
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 2: so I think they're overdue for a few teams. No, no, yeah,

1512
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 2: Bill's getting a takeaway because they haven't had an interception

1513
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 2: in four games.

1514
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: I see, I thought you said no, their.

1515
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 3: Defense hasn't had one in four games.

1516
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 1: I see, I thought you meant Josh hadn't.

1517
01:16:58,400 --> 01:16:58,599
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1518
01:16:58,640 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 3: One.

1519
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 2: So Bill's defence is overdue, and so is this Bengals offense.

1520
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 2: So let her rip, man, let her rip. We do

1521
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 2: have to get to tailgate Friday. I gotta tell you,

1522
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 2: I've spoken to three different people this week that are

1523
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 2: going to this game in Cincinnati. Really yeah, they're making

1524
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 2: the drive seven hours and change, give or take, yes,

1525
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 2: and they're going. So what is on the tailgate menu

1526
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,759
Speaker 2: this week? Tailgate Friday presented by high Marked Blue Cross,

1527
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:34,799
Speaker 2: Blue Shield, the official healthcare plan of the Buffalo Bills.

1528
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 2: And we look at said menu and let me see

1529
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 2: what we've got here is what is topping the list?

1530
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:43,879
Speaker 3: From Andrew?

1531
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 2: He says, gonna be lazy this week, gonna get some

1532
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 2: cheese and pepperoni pizza and get some Crown Royal Barbecue

1533
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 2: wings so good, highly recommend them. Wing flavors have gone

1534
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 2: off the deep end of late, do you know what

1535
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 2: I mean? Like, look, I like different flavors and different offerings.

1536
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,719
Speaker 1: It's not just now we're going anymore.

1537
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 2: Now we're going Crown Royal barbecue.

1538
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 1: Like really, I do not know what that is, but

1539
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 1: that good friend.

1540
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 2: It sounds like alcohol and barbecue.

1541
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 1: And I know Bill's fans have been talking about this

1542
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: because you and I talk about it every week. We're

1543
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 1: in the back of the radio booth. And these Sunday

1544
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 1: night games, it seems like they kick off at like

1545
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: one am.

1546
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 3: Because you've been waiting all day.

1547
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's like it's a game about to

1548
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:33,600
Speaker 1: kick off. Yeah, we only got another two and a

1549
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: half hours before kicks.

1550
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 2: And think about how long it's gonna feel when your

1551
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 2: football watching starts at nine thirty in the morning. With

1552
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 2: the Germany game, it's gonna feel even longer.

1553
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 1: It's a it is a trek to get through Sundays

1554
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 1: when you kick it off at eight fifteen that night,

1555
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 1: and and you.

1556
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 3: Know this time when you're sitting on your couch.

1557
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but that's why you gotta get lazy, Like

1558
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 1: over the peach is gonna be gone for two hours

1559
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: before the game kicks off, right, I yeh. And we

1560
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 1: all know how this is because it's that time of year.

1561
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: It's dark at like four thirty.

1562
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. We actually turned the clocks back this weekend, right, yeah, right, so.

1563
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 1: We'll get Yeah, so it's another hour.

1564
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 2: You're gonna be yes, yes, another hour, tack it.

1565
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:22,759
Speaker 1: On, hit me with a stick.

1566
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 19: I mean, it's just it takes four Oh my god,

1567
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 19: it takes forever for these games.

1568
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 1: To kick off.

1569
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 19: I'm you eat, you have a pizza party, and then

1570
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 19: you gotta like take a nap. Then you wake up,

1571
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 19: go for a walk, to walk the pizza off, take

1572
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,679
Speaker 19: the dog out, go out and get gas in the car.

1573
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: Come back. He's like, yeah, already, No game kicks off

1574
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 1: in an hour.

1575
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I've never heard someone so disappointed in daylight

1576
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 2: savings time in my life.

1577
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 3: That was fantastic, grief.

1578
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I love my weekend. I love listen.

1579
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: I love my weekends as much as anybody. But man,

1580
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: I tell you what Sunday is like get the game.

1581
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 1: Sundays last until Tuesday, like a kick the game off already.

1582
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 3: Oh man, got your reaction.

1583
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 1: It's dark for six hours before they kick it off.

1584
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:23,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god, your reaction to daylight stamings time was priceless.

1585
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 3: That was fantom. I enjoyed that.

1586
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 1: There's so it's so bad?

1587
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 2: All right, Elizabeth on the Tailgate Friday tweets sheet says,

1588
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 2: uh am, I gonna say this right, get a sausage

1589
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 2: with buffalo sauce, Frida egg hash brown potatoes, jalapeno cheddared,

1590
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 2: corn bread waffles, whoa, and sausage grat She.

1591
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 1: She does it right. She's having breakfast for the game

1592
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 1: at eight o'clock at night. He's having break Monday morning

1593
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 1: breakfast before the game.

1594
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 2: She got me on the Jalapeno chick cornbread waffles.

1595
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 1: Those cornbread waffles. Yes, everything in there sounds good.

1596
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 3: All right.

1597
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,799
Speaker 2: Well, I know I like jlopenios, I know I like cheddar,

1598
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 2: I know I like corn bread, and I'm damn sure

1599
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 2: I like waffles. So I'm in on a four for

1600
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 2: four streak with one food.

1601
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 1: Ice sausage gravy.

1602
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 3: That could be a hard stopper.

1603
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 1: Wow, I'm getting pained on my left arm just thinking.

1604
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 2: Well done, Elizabeth Jack says, cooking up some spicy chili

1605
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:31,799
Speaker 2: this Sunday.

1606
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:32,799
Speaker 3: It is chili season.

1607
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 2: I haven't decided yet if I will be making Cincinnati's

1608
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 2: five way over spaghetti or just having bowls of chili

1609
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 2: with warm bread and crackers. I'll decide after the chili's made.

1610
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:45,600
Speaker 2: I do disagree with Steve though chili needs beans. I

1611
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 2: use at least two types in mine.

1612
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 3: I'm big on the season chili beans in my chili.

1613
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,759
Speaker 2: But please don't do any of that ridiculous Cincinnati stuff

1614
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 2: like chili over pasta.

1615
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 1: What the fan of it?

1616
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 4: Either?

1617
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: I I do put beans in my chili too, but

1618
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: I put refried in a flavor and it thickens the

1619
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 1: chili up. Yet, but there's no bean. It doesn't look

1620
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: like there's beans in it, but there is. There's refried

1621
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 1: beans in it, pentos.

1622
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 3: So it's like a stealth bean chili. Right.

1623
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get the Yeah, you get the flavor and

1624
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 1: the whatever it is, but without the looking like it

1625
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 1: has beans in it. Yess my own thing.

1626
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 2: And when you're older and you don't have any teeth anymore,

1627
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 2: you don't have to worry about the beans because it's refried.

1628
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 2: It's already mush already, you already got your pot of

1629
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 2: gruel ready to go. All right, That is a tailgate

1630
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 2: Friday for this week's edition, as we said, presented by

1631
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:43,719
Speaker 2: high Mark, Blue Cross, Blue Shield, the official healthcare plan

1632
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills. So we look at this, Steve,

1633
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 2: because you were talking about it earlier in the show.

1634
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 2: You wanted to see chaos in the Vikings Falcons game.

1635
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,799
Speaker 2: There's a greater chance happens what happened. Josh Dobbs will

1636
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 2: be active for the Vikings Falcons game. That just came down. Uh,

1637
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 2: so you chew on that. I'm gonna go back to

1638
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 2: the phones because we have Jack and Ken Moore waiting.

1639
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 2: What you got for is Jack, you're on one Bill's Live.

1640
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 5: Okay, guys, there it goes our defensive coordinators, our head coach, Okay,

1641
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,600
Speaker 5: and it's up to him to stop these people. And

1642
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 5: if he out coaches this guy, we win the ball game.

1643
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 5: That's the bottom line. And that's that's all I gotta say.

1644
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's a matter of it's a matter of

1645
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 2: out coaching Zach Taylor for Sean McDermott. Something tells me

1646
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:44,759
Speaker 2: you kind of do need your players to execute as well,

1647
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 2: but I guess I understand the premise.

1648
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, okay, Yeah, it's it's interesting and we came

1649
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: up earlier in the year when.

1650
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 3: When and.

1651
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott was coaching against Mike McDaniel in Miami. Got

1652
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 1: both head coaches, ones an offensive head coach, the other's

1653
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 1: a defensive head coach, and they both call the plays

1654
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 1: for the respective sides of the ball, right, And it's

1655
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 1: it's kind of fun to think about, And it's gonna

1656
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: be the exact same thing here with Zach Taylor calling

1657
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: the plays in Indiana and Cincinnati and Sean of course

1658
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 1: coordinating the Bills defense. So it's it is there is

1659
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 1: something a little extra in that. No question. We saw

1660
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 1: how it went in Miami. We'll hopefully have some some

1661
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,600
Speaker 1: better success, the same success against Cincinnati that we did

1662
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 1: against Miami. But there's a lot more into it than that.

1663
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 1: So we'll see if the alternate factors play a bigger

1664
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 1: role than the coordinators.

1665
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:47,480
Speaker 2: Bills are five and zero on Sunday nights under Sean McDermott,

1666
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 2: so you can hang your hat on that.

1667
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 1: If you wish.

1668
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 2: I will say that Josh tends to play some of

1669
01:24:55,600 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 2: his better games in the primetime window. Obviously, you have

1670
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 2: the exception of the Sunday night game this week, already

1671
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 2: this year, already against the Giants, didn't play his best

1672
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 2: game by far, and you know they only scored fourteen points,

1673
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 2: still won the game. So you would like to think

1674
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 2: that if they can pull it together and play their

1675
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 2: best game, get a much needed win here. I'm also

1676
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 2: kind of thinking, you know, he had that call from

1677
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 2: Mark and Jersey City, and I already I knew most

1678
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 2: of the guys that were out of the lineup for

1679
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 2: the Bills defensively, you know, Daikwan Jones, Micah Hyde had

1680
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 2: already been lost for the season. Jordan Poyer, as he said,

1681
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 2: looked like a mummy because he was all wrapped up

1682
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 2: with you know, he looked like.

1683
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 3: RoboCop out there.

1684
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 2: And he's the starting corners Benford were kyer Elam and

1685
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 2: Dane Jackson, right, you know. And you have Terrel Bernard

1686
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 2: at linebacker now, who I think is a more instinctive

1687
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 2: and splash play linebacker than Tremaine Edmonds ever wa and

1688
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 2: your pass rush is far more formidable even with a

1689
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,480
Speaker 2: not all the way back von Miller.

1690
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 1: Yet VN was gone in that game.

1691
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't play in that game either, Right, No,

1692
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:19,440
Speaker 3: day Kwon Man. We're missing half the damn team. Tredevius

1693
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 3: was back.

1694
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 2: Oh it was Tredevious and kyri Elam That's who it

1695
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 2: was in that game January second, That's who it was

1696
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:25,719
Speaker 2: on the outside.

1697
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, Tamar Hamlin was playing safety.

1698
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 2: Tomorrow was playing safety, and he was the face.

1699
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 1: He was the fifth safety in the on the squad

1700
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year.

1701
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 2: Well Dean well for the playoff game though Dean Marlow

1702
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 2: was starting at safety within it with a banged up

1703
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 2: Jordan Poyer.

1704
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 1: Right, but Dean had gone in before Damar and was

1705
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: hurt in the Cincinnati game the first one and got

1706
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 1: healthy again to get back on the field. Okay, cam

1707
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 1: Lewis was playing before that. They had gone down.

1708
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 3: It was a mess. It was a mess. It was

1709
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:57,639
Speaker 3: a real mess.

1710
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, they go into this, I think, certainly with a

1711
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:03,600
Speaker 2: much better front.

1712
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 3: The back end.

1713
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 2: You know, you have those two safeties together back there,

1714
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 2: and you know if they go to that three safety dime,

1715
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:13,839
Speaker 2: look you got rap who's an athlete and good ball skills,

1716
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 2: you know, playing deep center field. So yeah, I like,

1717
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 2: I kind of like their chances better this time than

1718
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 2: I did last time. And light all the injuries that

1719
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 2: we just ran through from last year.

1720
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 3: Break time for us.

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Speaker 2: Steve and I close it up when we return here

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Speaker 2: on One Bills Live presented by Collide Health.

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Speaker 3: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, We're closing it out with Vision to Victory

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Speaker 2: presented by Adwall eye Care, the official eye care provider

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01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills. Well, our last caller, Jack thinks

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01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 2: it's about one coach out coach in the other in

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01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 2: terms of Sean McDermott now coaching Zach Taylor. I think

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01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 2: it runs a little bit deeper than that. I think

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01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 2: the defense that can come up with a couple of

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01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 2: extra splash plays for me turns the tide in this game.

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01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 2: And both teams are very good at taking the ball away.

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01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 2: They're both in the top five in total takeaways. Cincinnati

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01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 2: leads the AFC in interceptions with ten. Buffalo has one

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01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 2: more total takeaway than Cincinnati, fourteen to thirteen. And as

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Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, Cincinnati has not turned it over a

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Speaker 2: whole lot in recent games and you know, there's just

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01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 2: a law of averages. Teams turn it over, you know,

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01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 2: and when they go along stretch without doing that, it

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01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 2: crops up and bites them sometimes for whatever reason. I'm

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01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 2: not going to try to dive into why. And I

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01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,799
Speaker 2: just think the Bills defense has to be the defense

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01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 2: that gets that extra sack strip or get that extra

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01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 2: tip ball for a for a pick something like that,

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01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 2: to get their offense the extra possession.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully go in and win the game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be nip and tuck.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the team that comes out positive or negator on

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01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,679
Speaker 1: the turnover ratio is gonna win that game. If they're

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01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 1: positive and plus, if you go plus two, you're you're huge.

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01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a huge difference in this game.

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Speaker 1: And I also think this The Bills have twenty eight

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01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 1: sacks on the season, the Bengals have twelve. Bill's got

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01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback. They got to get after him.

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01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 1: If they can get him on the ground, if they

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01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 1: can get him to drop back and take away that

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01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:35,680
Speaker 1: first read like they do with Tuatongo I loo, if

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01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 1: they can take the first rate game to hold the ball,

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Speaker 1: they can close that gap and get close, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's the different sacks and turnovers for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Defense is gonna win it.

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Speaker 2: I like that plan taking away his first read because

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01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 2: he got it out in two point two seconds in

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01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 2: the playoff game and they could do nothing about it.

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Speaker 3: They got to change the conversation.

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Speaker 1: They'll see.

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Speaker 2: That's it for us here on a Friday. We'll see

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Speaker 2: you back here on Monday to discuss the game at noon.

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Speaker 2: We will see you that enjoy the game this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Everybody