Speaker 1: Welcome back Happy our listeners. We are here in studio
Speaker 1: for a very excited episode. We are here live with
Speaker 1: Mentell all and first and foremost, we were talking to
Speaker 1: some of new favorite guys, and well, speaking of favorite guys,
Speaker 1: we actually are starting with Nate here on Happy Hour.
Speaker 1: We saw a lot go down tonight, so I want
Speaker 1: to get into all of it because a lot of
Speaker 1: the viewers won't see everything. So we want to get
Speaker 1: like the behind the scenes, the tea, like how you
Speaker 1: were feeling in the moment of the hot sea seeing
Speaker 1: Gabby again. So let's get into it first and foremost.
Speaker 1: I feel like we have to start off Happy Hour
Speaker 1: right with h Chios. So welcome Nate, Well, welcome Michelle.
Speaker 1: Feels good to see in person again. Well, I feel good.
Speaker 1: Just got out of the Vince tell All is good
Speaker 1: seeing the guys again, good seeing the girls, and it's
Speaker 1: just refreshing to be around familiar faces and people who
Speaker 1: you went through so much with. So I feel really good. Right. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the first time that you guys have all
Speaker 1: been reunited, well not all, because obviously Chris and Hayden
Speaker 1: did not show up. Most the first time you guys
Speaker 1: are all in the same room again, Like what was
Speaker 1: that vibe? Like that vibe was just a positive energy,
Speaker 1: was one of just like accomplishment when you know, we
Speaker 1: all tried to find love. It didn't happen, but we
Speaker 1: found friendship and memories and experiences that we did grow from.
Speaker 1: And we're going to continue to be the people that
Speaker 1: you saw us as and maybe continue on with the
Speaker 1: fascination if it so leads us down that path. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you're stuck with us. I'm sorry, whether or not this world.
Speaker 1: That's so interesting though, that you say that, just because
Speaker 1: I think people who go into mental or even women
Speaker 1: tal all, it's not always like a positive vibe. You know.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of drama that sometimes unfools, right, like
Speaker 1: drama between the contestants, some that tends or a lot
Speaker 1: a lot all the ways too much, right, But it's
Speaker 1: but to like go into it and have that sense
Speaker 1: of accomplishment afterwards, it's not necessarily a normal thing. Do
Speaker 1: you feel like you were able to say everything that
Speaker 1: you wanted to? Yeah, I definitely felt like I had
Speaker 1: the platform to speak from my heart and to address
Speaker 1: the issues that happened in the house that people may
Speaker 1: not have known, you know, just like saying like I
Speaker 1: wasn't a part of the first Crisp part and that,
Speaker 1: you know, I had a reaction to Hayden, and I
Speaker 1: didn't really get to address it on the ship, but
Speaker 1: I talked to him, you know, onside conversations about how
Speaker 1: that wasn't really correct, and then it being able to
Speaker 1: address it to the crowd it felt freeing. And then
Speaker 1: as well as being able to reminisce with Gabby over
Speaker 1: our time and let her know that I supported a
Speaker 1: decision even though it hurt, like I still valued our
Speaker 1: relationship and I grew from it. So that was very
Speaker 1: free and it was I was glad that I got
Speaker 1: to do that tonight. I feel like you can finally
Speaker 1: breathe easy a little bit now that this is behind you. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like the consensus for people coming in, like
Speaker 1: you said, whether it's meant to all or women to all,
Speaker 1: is they dread it. They don't want to do it
Speaker 1: because you never know what's gonna like be brought up
Speaker 1: again and what you have to rehash. But I feel
Speaker 1: like every time, especially last Women until All, we did
Speaker 1: this in person, and we were cycling contestants through and
Speaker 1: the consensus was that they were like, we're so happy
Speaker 1: we did it. We're so happy it's over. But now
Speaker 1: we can just like put this behind us and move
Speaker 1: on with our life and like go on to the
Speaker 1: next chapter. Yeah, it's like closure with an X. Like
Speaker 1: you may not like it all the time, but it
Speaker 1: needs to be done so you can move forward with
Speaker 1: your life. And that was a bit step in the
Speaker 1: right direction for I think all of us. One thing
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you is because you had the
Speaker 1: hot seat, which obviously we could well not we I
Speaker 1: wasn't there, but you could talk about everything from night
Speaker 1: one to your relationship with Gabby and then fast forward
Speaker 1: to Gabby and Rachel are sitting in front of you
Speaker 1: at the end of the night. And one thing that
Speaker 1: I found very powerful and moving in that conversation where
Speaker 1: they addressed you actually and like the social media everything
Speaker 1: that's been going on, they said that they got to
Speaker 1: know you for you right and they can speak to
Speaker 1: how kind of a person you are, how respectful of
Speaker 1: a person you are. And I felt like that was
Speaker 1: a very special moment because they actually know you for
Speaker 1: who you are, which I think is so important. People
Speaker 1: forget as they're watching TV show that it is behind
Speaker 1: the screen and it's edited, and you know, everyone has
Speaker 1: like their thoughts on somebody until they get to know them.
Speaker 1: So how in that moment when they're kind of coming
Speaker 1: about for you, how did that feel? It meant a
Speaker 1: lot for me. You know, I'm not going to say
Speaker 1: that I was perfect. You know, I made a lot
Speaker 1: of mistakes in my past, but I have grown from
Speaker 1: that and I just wanted it to shine through with
Speaker 1: my character and what I've been doing moving forward. And
Speaker 1: I'm glad that they were able to see me for
Speaker 1: who I was during the show and who I'm going
Speaker 1: to continue to try to be. You know, anybody can
Speaker 1: point at you know, everybody can point at a pass
Speaker 1: where it did something stupid to me, not have acted
Speaker 1: in the right character that they should have been. But
Speaker 1: I've since moved from you know, that behavior, and I'm
Speaker 1: glad that they were able to recognize it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that was important. We've all done stupid stuff. We've
Speaker 1: all said stupid stuff knowing said anything perfectly. But I
Speaker 1: think who we saw on the screen and who they
Speaker 1: can attest to, and even the men that lived with you,
Speaker 1: who they can attest to your character. I think is
Speaker 1: should speak volumes over anything else. I'm just so consistent,
Speaker 1: you know. I think that's a hard part that people
Speaker 1: forget about, is the fact that as this is, you know, rerunning,
Speaker 1: as everybody's watching, as you're watching, you might think that
Speaker 1: you have a piece of closure, and then something else
Speaker 1: pops up or the you know, the audience's reactions pop up.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like, with everything that has happened, are
Speaker 1: you able to you know, be able to take those
Speaker 1: steps forward and kind of let let that go off
Speaker 1: your chest with hearing how Gabby you know truly does
Speaker 1: believe who you are in your character. Yeah, it's always
Speaker 1: good to be validated by the people around you have
Speaker 1: seen the change in you, you know, it's you know,
Speaker 1: I've forgiven myself for a lot of my past behaviors.
Speaker 1: I feel like I hope that people who have known
Speaker 1: me in the past can do the same. And then
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that the people who
Speaker 1: are close to me continue to place me in check
Speaker 1: if I do fall out online and getting the people
Speaker 1: in you know, having the right circle around you does
Speaker 1: really mold who you are, and I feel like I
Speaker 1: do have that, and so I'm glad that you know
Speaker 1: everything went well. I didn't do anything out of the
Speaker 1: character that I wanted to be, and I'm still growing
Speaker 1: into the man that i want to be. So I
Speaker 1: do want to ask you because I mean, I've watched
Speaker 1: the show for a while, I've done a few seasons.
Speaker 1: I've had my heartbroken on it. We all have seen breakups. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yours and Gabby's actually moved me to slight tears. I
Speaker 1: will say that, which doesn't happen very often, but watching
Speaker 1: that moment between you two was something so raw and
Speaker 1: like you could see Gabby's real emotion, like with that
Speaker 1: struggle of like he is such an incredible man. I'm
Speaker 1: just not there yet, like not ready to be a
Speaker 1: mom or a stepmoman. That's just so much to take on.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I don't ever know where to begin,
Speaker 1: like rewatching it back, because that's the first time. I mean,
Speaker 1: you obviously lived it, but that's the first time watching it.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like now kind of have the closure
Speaker 1: after seeing it all unfold and watching it back and
Speaker 1: being able to speak with her. No. Absolutely, I think
Speaker 1: that was absolutely one of the hardest breakups I've had
Speaker 1: to go through. Because it wasn't anything with our connection.
Speaker 1: It was just you know, life circumstances and to understand
Speaker 1: that and be mature enough to be able to step
Speaker 1: back and say, Okay, you're not there right now. I
Speaker 1: still appreciate this for what it was, and I still
Speaker 1: you know, have a deep amount of respect and admiration
Speaker 1: for you. It was. It was special for me to
Speaker 1: see it and just to know that she went through
Speaker 1: a lot going through that relationship that she may not
Speaker 1: have thought that she would have had to face during
Speaker 1: this journey. So I'm just glad that I got to
Speaker 1: be a part of that aspect in her life to see,
Speaker 1: you know, see what she would face if she had
Speaker 1: to date a guy with the child and know that,
Speaker 1: you know, she can have a real connection even though
Speaker 1: she may not be there, but she did make the
Speaker 1: right choices. And I applaud her for not you know,
Speaker 1: just going through the motions and met on challenge and
Speaker 1: causing in that way. So it was it was really
Speaker 1: meaningful for me as well, because our entire relationship was
Speaker 1: beautiful to me and it still is and I and
Speaker 1: I love the growth that I had going through that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it flows through the screen. It was not a dry eye.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, it was so quiet as we were watching.
Speaker 1: All right, but I can take it away for a
Speaker 1: really long time. This is the number one thing that
Speaker 1: I had in my notes here. I love your suit.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's not very often that we see
Speaker 1: a good green Describe the fit for all of our listeners.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so I have a peak lapel green suit.
Speaker 1: It's almost like a tweet, but not quite. It's like
Speaker 1: a yeah, and explain here. Someone someone asked if this
Speaker 1: is an earring. No, it's like a right, it's so
Speaker 1: it's it's dedicated for a lapel pin, but it's this.
Speaker 1: It's shaped as an earring, but it's a pearl to accident,
Speaker 1: you know, the pearl necklace that I well, we don't
Speaker 1: talk about pearl Mexas here. Okay, yeah, okay, but I
Speaker 1: just have to say we leave this. We named your
Speaker 1: suit the Martini suit because it's like a jury mart
Speaker 1: not dirty, but like an olive Martini like that, and
Speaker 1: we love olives and Martini's. So yeah, we love the suit.
Speaker 1: And you can bring the pearls back in in a
Speaker 1: classier way, so we're good, straight, dad. It looks wonderful.
Speaker 1: You did great, you were awesome. You're doing great, sweetie,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Here we go. I feel like
Speaker 1: we don't even need an intro for this one. We
Speaker 1: have one of the women of our please. I wasting
Speaker 1: no time, how to say, I feel like a slop
Speaker 1: kebab over here. Gabby is in her diamond encrusted dress
Speaker 1: with her diamond laser on. My pants are unbuttoned, same
Speaker 1: here dress. Yeah, okay, we're wasting time. Were enough people all?
Speaker 1: So we need more undressing? Yeah? Actually, speaking of your dress,
Speaker 1: to tell us about it, I'm obsessed. I don't know
Speaker 1: anything about it. It's lovely racket. The lizard liquor. Well,
Speaker 1: at one point I saw only half the lizard and
Speaker 1: I was like, I think she has an animal on
Speaker 1: her dress. Feel like, I think it's a crocodile. It's
Speaker 1: a dragon, a lizard, a crocodile, whatever style. I'm also
Speaker 1: cold blooded girl. I feel like we're gonna get along
Speaker 1: real well. Yeah, the color of my dress is my soul.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Tonight. Yeah, coming into tonight, mente, all,
Speaker 1: you weren't sure what kind of questions or things we're
Speaker 1: gonna be coming your direction? If you're gonna be met
Speaker 1: with heat if you were going to be met with
Speaker 1: you know, just there's a lot of times when people
Speaker 1: come into it with closure. How are you feeling walking
Speaker 1: in tonight? I felt good walking into tonight. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: felt like I got a lot of closure on the
Speaker 1: show and while we were filming, and I always try
Speaker 1: to be open and honest with the guys in the moment,
Speaker 1: so they really got to know the full me. So
Speaker 1: I feel like I walked away kind of with no regrets.
Speaker 1: M Mario thought differently. I think, well, we don't need
Speaker 1: to bring up old moons here. Well. So actually, speaking
Speaker 1: of Mario and all of your exes, it's not every
Speaker 1: day that you walk into a room with thirty of
Speaker 1: your exes. No one likes me, need one, Let's be honest.
Speaker 1: So what was that like? Like where was your mindset
Speaker 1: walking in of like seeing these guys and is there
Speaker 1: anything that you really wanted to say to any of them?
Speaker 1: Not really? I mean I honestly felt like we were
Speaker 1: treated with so much respect besides the Jacob and Hayden's
Speaker 1: of it all. But Jacob, I think had a really
Speaker 1: heartfelt apology and all I wanted to hear is that
Speaker 1: he did learn and grow from what he had said
Speaker 1: to us by watching it back. So when he said that,
Speaker 1: I was like, there's nothing else that I can really give.
Speaker 1: That meant the world. So I was excited. All the
Speaker 1: guys looked so good. Damn I did that night? Yeah,
Speaker 1: had do you have any idea that Hayden was not
Speaker 1: going to be here? I did? Was I supposed to do?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what of What were
Speaker 1: your thoughts and what were your thoughts when you found
Speaker 1: out he was not going to be here? I chose
Speaker 1: not to it, Honestly, wasn't that surprising? Truthfully? I think
Speaker 1: he was getting a lot of heat online and stuff, rightfully, so,
Speaker 1: so I think he could have taken the high road,
Speaker 1: came to apologize and see what he had to have said.
Speaker 1: But I think he would have gotten ripped apart by
Speaker 1: the men, probably by me. So maybe he was just
Speaker 1: trying to probably by us also. Yeah, so if he
Speaker 1: was trying to protect himself, and that's what he needs.
Speaker 1: But hopefully he can learn and grow from the situation too. Ye.
Speaker 1: What was your highlight of the entire night so far?
Speaker 1: I think you're seeing Nate especially with the last episode
Speaker 1: that aired. I can't believe that was the last time
Speaker 1: we truly saw each other, and he did and does
Speaker 1: mean so much to me, So being able to have
Speaker 1: one last conversation that was really heartfelt and just I
Speaker 1: think we picked up right where we left off, and
Speaker 1: we both have such a mute respect for each other,
Speaker 1: so not that I expected anything different, but it was
Speaker 1: really good to have that again, and that respect was
Speaker 1: definitely shown because you did, you know the statement of
Speaker 1: I do know unate, you know, after he kind of
Speaker 1: really spoke about everything that was going on, the different
Speaker 1: things that have come out online as this is unfolding,
Speaker 1: and for you to have so much confidence in him
Speaker 1: and show him that what are your thoughts or what
Speaker 1: were your just reactions and intentions as those things were
Speaker 1: starting to come not even come to light because again rumors,
Speaker 1: but that's a part of this. How did you feel
Speaker 1: when all that was just kind of erupting? I think
Speaker 1: because I do know him so well and he was
Speaker 1: such a big presence in my journey and in the house.
Speaker 1: I know all the boys love him. He was always
Speaker 1: teaching them how to treat women and how to have
Speaker 1: integrity and kind of do this the right way that
Speaker 1: when I heard about that stuff, it didn't even shake me.
Speaker 1: I didn't think twice I was like, I can't believe
Speaker 1: he's going through this. I can't believe that people are
Speaker 1: taking their precious time to take someone else down and
Speaker 1: you know, um kind of ruining an opportunity for them
Speaker 1: and living in this very positive light that they've built
Speaker 1: for themselves. And not to mention it's his decision when
Speaker 1: he chooses, and if he chooses to share that he
Speaker 1: has a child. I didn't ever. I mean, he was
Speaker 1: always upfront with me. We had a really good conversation
Speaker 1: about it, and it I always brought her into conversation
Speaker 1: and we are all talked about it. But that's not
Speaker 1: that's on his decision. That's not up to me. So
Speaker 1: I'll take, of course, what's given to me. But I
Speaker 1: think everyone has seen watching back how good of a
Speaker 1: guy he really is, and I don't think that should
Speaker 1: shake it. I don't think that should change anyone's mind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so my last question for you, Gabby hits Mecca. You
Speaker 1: know in the face. You know we saw meeop all
Speaker 1: slowly undressed. We saw him for that lovely Marion Haarrosaus
Speaker 1: all about his body. Did you like I loved it?
Speaker 1: I was like, I want somebody to do this to
Speaker 1: me too, Really, that's what I love. Sauce. Yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: something and then the dame. But my question was do
Speaker 1: you feel like there was ever a decision that should
Speaker 1: have been made? Okay, let me let me ask to
Speaker 1: keep ba for yes. Yes, do you feel like you
Speaker 1: and Rachel may have made a mistake and you should
Speaker 1: have kept him till the very end, till the very
Speaker 1: end for both of you. Yeah, I don't believe you.
Speaker 1: I would be the same. He's the one who got
Speaker 1: away me Ball is the walls that got away. Gabby,
Speaker 1: you are always so much fun to have. You truly
Speaker 1: are one of a kind. I love it. Hoofiness, classiness,
Speaker 1: wear your heart in your sleeve. It's been awesome and
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us today. Next up, Mario is
Speaker 1: here the first impression Rosemanner himself. You were just saying
Speaker 1: you wanted to introduce yourself. Here you go, take it away.
Speaker 1: I got the first impression. Rose. How are you feeling
Speaker 1: after everything tonight? I'm feeling I'm feeling okay. I just
Speaker 1: I'm very like I'll be honest, I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: for me, the big question was like, hey, you got
Speaker 1: the first impression rose from Gabby. You did not get
Speaker 1: a one on one. It's not about that, but I
Speaker 1: felt like we didn't even get a chance to build
Speaker 1: toward that this season, right, And so m I spoke
Speaker 1: with her and I got closure, but I felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, it was more of like a I agree
Speaker 1: to disagree type thing, and you know, with them being
Speaker 1: the two leads in the setting, like that you want
Speaker 1: to be careful about and I was very I felt
Speaker 1: like I was respectful with the way that I spoke
Speaker 1: with her about, you know, why we didn't really connect
Speaker 1: the way that we did and why we weren't able
Speaker 1: to continue to build or capitalize on our first night.
Speaker 1: But I felt like she gave me a response that
Speaker 1: I understood. But I still feel like that, you know,
Speaker 1: based on the season and the rejecting of Roses, that
Speaker 1: when that when the Roses came out the third episode
Speaker 1: that I was with Gabby, you know, and I just
Speaker 1: wish I would have got a chance to build on
Speaker 1: top of that. And so her reasoning was, you know, essentially, hey,
Speaker 1: the guys that were with me, they were about me
Speaker 1: from day one, and I was like, whoa, so was I.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not gonna hit the gas on
Speaker 1: that too much. So yeah, what kind of okay? So
Speaker 1: you said that you were the situation that happened. Can't
Speaker 1: go back and change it, unfortunately, But is there something
Speaker 1: that you would have liked to hear from Gabby that
Speaker 1: you didn't hear tonight? I think that part of me
Speaker 1: wishes that she would have been like, you know what,
Speaker 1: You're right in a sense, you know, because I felt
Speaker 1: like when I was watching this season back, I was
Speaker 1: waiting for them to show kind of a moment where
Speaker 1: Gabby and I didn't connect, but all you saw was
Speaker 1: like the first impression I had kind of a playful
Speaker 1: interaction with Rachel the second episode, where you know, I
Speaker 1: took her through a workout and I was squatting with her,
Speaker 1: But there was no like moment where it was like,
Speaker 1: oh and this is Mario, this is why him and
Speaker 1: Gabby didn't work out, And so part of me was like, man,
Speaker 1: you know, and talking to friends and family, they're like,
Speaker 1: where did you go? Like you got their first rows?
Speaker 1: What actually happened? And I'm like, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to find out tonight, right, And so she
Speaker 1: gave me a response that I felt like was was
Speaker 1: fair and something that I get where she's coming from.
Speaker 1: You know, the other guys made her a priority, but
Speaker 1: I felt like, man, all I did was have a
Speaker 1: conversation with Rachel and kind of have a playful interaction.
Speaker 1: It was week two, and so that's kind of what
Speaker 1: I'm getting out a little bit. Do you feel like
Speaker 1: it's okay? So I do hear you on what you're saying.
Speaker 1: And so you said that you when you're speaking or
Speaker 1: when you're watching the show, you're waiting for like this
Speaker 1: moment where you see you guys have like a miscommunication
Speaker 1: or disconnected correct, And you said you feel like you
Speaker 1: didn't see it first Tory line. Okay, So are you
Speaker 1: saying that you wish you had more time based off
Speaker 1: of your actual reality interaction with her, because it seemed
Speaker 1: like you guys are on the same page, right, or
Speaker 1: of more of your story shown, of seeing that connection
Speaker 1: and that connection to continue to play out on the screen.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yeah, the second one, more of
Speaker 1: our connection shown to continue to show, Like she kind
Speaker 1: of alluded to Rachel today she didn't say her name,
Speaker 1: but she was like, you know, we were like trying
Speaker 1: to figure out which side you were on, and so
Speaker 1: I was like, well, when the roses came out, I
Speaker 1: was for you. And I know I've said this a lot,
Speaker 1: but like we saw a lot of rejecting, a lot
Speaker 1: of people pivoting essentially, and so I never did that.
Speaker 1: And I think I just wish and show time that
Speaker 1: there could have been more of like a story because
Speaker 1: we did have a connection. I just didn't see it
Speaker 1: really grow. And that's okay because Gabby doesn't own me anything.
Speaker 1: I just wish that like I got some sort of closure,
Speaker 1: and I did tonight, but I mean even like from
Speaker 1: her in a show. Well, so I want to ask
Speaker 1: this on the flip side then, because other relationships that
Speaker 1: she had with other men obviously were growing and our
Speaker 1: girl rowing, and so did watching those other relationships because
Speaker 1: you obviously weren't privy to like personal intimate conversations, did
Speaker 1: that kind of give you a glimpse of like, oh,
Speaker 1: now I understand why she made certain decisions or let
Speaker 1: me go when she did. As you see like those
Speaker 1: other relationships growing and getting stronger, and she's like starting
Speaker 1: to fall for other people. Yeah, I mean over time
Speaker 1: you begin to see her grow with others and didn't
Speaker 1: give me clarity a little, but you know, getting that rose.
Speaker 1: You still like historically when you look at the show,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm not saying you gotta fallow said history,
Speaker 1: but you know you just feel like where did we
Speaker 1: go wrong? You know? And I think the big thing
Speaker 1: for me was like Logan, you know, when he made
Speaker 1: that jump, he was the reason that I went home,
Speaker 1: and so I think that that was my point today.
Speaker 1: It was like, hey, you know this guy jumped in
Speaker 1: like a we can have before hometowns and you sent
Speaker 1: me home. But I've been here since day one when
Speaker 1: you think about when you handed out the roses. So
Speaker 1: I was feeling like the largest cast ever thirty two
Speaker 1: men you noticed me night one? Um, you know, where's
Speaker 1: my t Yeah, where's where's my time? Respectfully? Well, speaking
Speaker 1: of time shown, we saw the first kiss with Gappy
Speaker 1: we which because no, no, no, because it was a
Speaker 1: very awkwardly long kiss. Okay, so when I happens first, No,
Speaker 1: this is about no. This is Mario, Mario. We are
Speaker 1: the host here here, Okay, we have one question. We
Speaker 1: have one question or maybe I do OK when you
Speaker 1: were younger, you know when you're you know when you're okay?
Speaker 1: Do you know when you know? When you're young, you've
Speaker 1: seen seen the movies, but like you know, you you
Speaker 1: start to have feelings you practice like kissing a teddy
Speaker 1: bear or a pillow or you're a kid, or maybe
Speaker 1: like an orange. Have you ever done that? Uh? No,
Speaker 1: you never? You need to are y'all? It seems embarrassing.
Speaker 1: It seems embarrassing, but we've all done it. Honestly, we've
Speaker 1: all done I think like I can remember what's funny
Speaker 1: because like I just had an awkward kiss at the
Speaker 1: age of thirty one. But I was like gonna say
Speaker 1: I can remember my first like awkward kiss with someone
Speaker 1: or my first kiss, I should say, But now I'm
Speaker 1: thinking I was, like that was really good too, So
Speaker 1: like was it or was that your first kiss you
Speaker 1: just saw? I'm just replaying this and like you felt
Speaker 1: so awkward the moment were you like picked up her
Speaker 1: and kissed her hand. I was like, oh, he's nervous
Speaker 1: right now. Honestly, like I think when I picked up
Speaker 1: her hand, it was just like you know, I'll just
Speaker 1: back up in real time and in real time when
Speaker 1: I when I saw it, I was looking at like
Speaker 1: my body was just sing my leg was up. She
Speaker 1: was there. I'm gonna be transparent with y'all. I wasn't
Speaker 1: going for like full makeout. I think your hand was
Speaker 1: actually like your own hands were on your leg, not hers.
Speaker 1: I was like going were like the soft gentle and
Speaker 1: then ease into kind of a gradual kid being respectful
Speaker 1: and no, I actually love that we have you here.
Speaker 1: I just like love shooting the show with people. And
Speaker 1: when we were watching the pack, I was like, this
Speaker 1: is what we have to ask for the record. I
Speaker 1: am a good kisser. Gabby and I had an awkward kiss.
Speaker 1: We shared many kisses, but you guys caught the first one.
Speaker 1: It's okay, though, because I still got the rose and
Speaker 1: she said I was a good kisser. I am be
Speaker 1: glad of line. We could talk about practicing kisses for
Speaker 1: far too long, but actions better back it up in
Speaker 1: the future. Mario, thank you for joining us. I'm glad
Speaker 1: we've heard it from you here first. Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1: You smell great, looks a little less great, but that's
Speaker 1: only I'm a great No, I'm just I'm looking at
Speaker 1: these flecks of marinara sauce like dangling from your chin hair.
Speaker 1: So I no, I've noticed smelt too like guys like Costa. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we love this a little bit. I'm just gonna stand
Speaker 1: and it is gonna that is strong. Okay, Meatball, allright,
Speaker 1: we gotta get into this. We have the number one question. Okay,
Speaker 1: what made you want to tack tackle Billy Eichner? And
Speaker 1: how do you think he felt about it? And do
Speaker 1: you regret it? Okay? I was just going in for
Speaker 1: the hug and there was meatball sauce on the floor
Speaker 1: and I slipped and we went down down that that's
Speaker 1: how it happened. I did offer him and tied to
Speaker 1: go pen and he declined, yes, he's gotta get on
Speaker 1: a flight. You probably need one too many. How many washes,
Speaker 1: how many shampoo conditions, rinse and repeats are you gonna
Speaker 1: to do to get out of your hair? It's in
Speaker 1: your eyebrows, It is in your in your eyebrows. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be finding sauce for shirt. Okay, So overall, was
Speaker 1: it worth it? It was? How did you feel about
Speaker 1: getting basically naked once again on national television stop the
Speaker 1: first time? That happened, and I love. I was like,
Speaker 1: as long as he keeps the socks on, please keep
Speaker 1: the socks on, sir, you want me to keep the
Speaker 1: socks on. Yes, socks and sauce, baby, I have to say. So,
Speaker 1: we were in the press room watching it all live,
Speaker 1: and in the press room people are cheering and usually
Speaker 1: it's dead ass quiet. People are chanting your name, they
Speaker 1: are clappy. They are cheering for you as you take
Speaker 1: your jacket off, and though all of the guys are
Speaker 1: helping you. Yeah, I was stripping down teamwork. I stripped
Speaker 1: down in my boxer, was taking all my clothes off.
Speaker 1: He was he was not only that. I was like,
Speaker 1: they were very fast at it, truly were good at that.
Speaker 1: I don't even know where I was going with that question,
Speaker 1: but I just wanted to. I wanted to set the
Speaker 1: scene for you in the press. But then the crowd
Speaker 1: was like really into that. Everyone was channing Meatball. I'm
Speaker 1: going to go to bed with hearing this in my mind.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is not the last time he does this.
Speaker 1: But okay, so every time he speaks, every time he speaks,
Speaker 1: I promise I'm normally really gonna eye contact. But Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so beset the record straight. Yeah, that tackle was not scripted.
Speaker 1: That was not planned. No not. Do you think any
Speaker 1: of it was scripted? I hope not. I hope it's
Speaker 1: not coming from my ass. Okay, we do have to
Speaker 1: ask a couple of serious questions. We can't just talk
Speaker 1: about sass me balls. As much as I love food,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. Um Okay, Roby came at you
Speaker 1: guns a blazing tonight. How was that? I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm asking me. It was coming after me violent. Why
Speaker 1: is the dyed hair? I didn't know who it was
Speaker 1: at first. I was like, Oh, they brought in somebody.
Speaker 1: I don't mind it. You know, it's more about what's
Speaker 1: inside that counts, you know. Okay, Yeah, why are we
Speaker 1: worried about hair? This man was eating nails? Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but okay, I get so I gonna track to the question.
Speaker 1: He did come up to you, well, not up to you,
Speaker 1: but he called you out and basically said to man
Speaker 1: up about rejecting Rachel's rose. What was going through your
Speaker 1: mind in that moment, like when not even a lot
Speaker 1: of drama, but like this bit of drama around you
Speaker 1: was unfolding. Yeah, I mean, I thought I explained myself
Speaker 1: pretty well. Like early on, I was pretty confused. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, all the other guys were as well. I
Speaker 1: barely got time with both of them, and when I
Speaker 1: did get time, it was it was like the dinner
Speaker 1: thing meat balls. Yeah, and so I didn't know which
Speaker 1: way to lean um so, and then the cocktail party
Speaker 1: got canceled, so we went right in the rose ceremony.
Speaker 1: And then they were intentional the roles they were handed out.
Speaker 1: So when Rachel'll call my name, I wasn't expected I
Speaker 1: respecting a rose from Gabby like I thought. If I
Speaker 1: was gonna rose, it was from Gabby, and I kind
Speaker 1: of freaked out in the moment. I denied it and
Speaker 1: immediately regretted it. And I got to go back and
Speaker 1: I have a great conversation with her and tell her
Speaker 1: how I was feeling, and she gave me a shot,
Speaker 1: and um, I really appreciate that and me lasted no offense,
Speaker 1: but longer than expected. Yeah, I was still weak five Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then she called her she called me her savior tonight.
Speaker 1: Did you hear that? Yeah? I think I was too
Speaker 1: busy by the Wow, that's a big deal. Okay, say savior.
Speaker 1: I'll take it on that note. I feel like we
Speaker 1: could talk to you forever. I do actually want to
Speaker 1: talk about meatballs at some point. I don't think the
Speaker 1: podcast is the time, were the place for that. Well,
Speaker 1: you guys have a great, great podcast, but thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's great. Hopefull saying that because people get nervous when
Speaker 1: they come on the podcast. Now all the guys talk
Speaker 1: back behind us and they're like, they get nervous with us,
Speaker 1: So no as they should. Damn right though, right right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys zoom. This is very we only when people
Speaker 1: put my Anair sauce on their bodies. That's why we
Speaker 1: call you in um. I would love to do it
Speaker 1: again live like only if you are dressing the same
Speaker 1: unpit well our sauce. You sare has been fun for
Speaker 1: having me, Well we have a familiar face here with us. Well,
Speaker 1: it's good to see you again. It's good to be here.
Speaker 1: I promote your guys' podcast on my podcast. And so
Speaker 1: do you have to do the ads for us? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't have to. I do it because I love
Speaker 1: you guys, and you pay me to do it, which
Speaker 1: is also helps. That was only twenty dollars in wine,
Speaker 1: in wine and hugs. Yeah, okay. When I first saw
Speaker 1: you tonight, I told you you had this great glow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's still from Paradise, right, I think so
Speaker 1: that my my tan is lasted. It's been I've been
Speaker 1: back for like I guess, like a month. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's uh when you live in Mexico for a month.
Speaker 1: I said, like, it's like a terrible thing. You don't
Speaker 1: even know. I just sat on the beach, Nacho. You
Speaker 1: do deal with a lot of I do, and a
Speaker 1: lot of UV rays and so that that's when my
Speaker 1: skin is this beautiful chestnut cutter. Um. So, no, no
Speaker 1: glowing spray tan before the wedding. No, no, maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know. Wellesy with a little spray tan action, I
Speaker 1: don't know they'll problem with spray tans. I feel like
Speaker 1: you smell weird. You do, oh yeah, but only for
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, and your palms look weird and you
Speaker 1: don't want it when you get in bed, you don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't gotten a spray tan, but you see,
Speaker 1: I do, I do and everything, and you know, on
Speaker 1: the wedding day, like your hands are very present. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe do it a couple days before, but I want
Speaker 1: to ask you, speaking of the Paradise flow, we saw
Speaker 1: well some of the cast members that were in Paradise
Speaker 1: this year, and then the teaser, Yeah, what can you
Speaker 1: tell us about Paradise without giving too much away of
Speaker 1: like what we can all expect. Well, I mean, because
Speaker 1: Paradise is such a popular show in VAT Nation, but
Speaker 1: also for ABC, they asked for more episodes, so you know,
Speaker 1: the what is what is it? Um? The mother of
Speaker 1: invention is like ingenuity, and like we had to switch
Speaker 1: things up, we had to like try some new things.
Speaker 1: So in that teaser, I think there's this like one
Speaker 1: scene where like everyone says like fuck you Jesse Palmer,
Speaker 1: which is hilarious to me, sweet guy in the world.
Speaker 1: It's like yelling at it like a puppy. But I
Speaker 1: think that's in reference to like kind of the things
Speaker 1: that we switched up this year. And from my vantage point,
Speaker 1: it was hilarious and wonderful and I loved it. I
Speaker 1: had to make a lot more like like sad bastard
Speaker 1: margharitas than I have in the past. Yeah, but uh,
Speaker 1: and I don't think the people on the beach love
Speaker 1: what was happening so much? But from Jesse and Ice perspective,
Speaker 1: it was great. And I think from like Batch Nations perspective,
Speaker 1: they're gonna love it like entertaining. It's so like the
Speaker 1: craziness that ensues from like some of the new antics
Speaker 1: that we pull, um is pretty great. And also the
Speaker 1: other thing is I think people forget how many like
Speaker 1: amazing meaningful, meaningful relationships have come out of Paradise. Um,
Speaker 1: Like you, I'm laughing because he just said antics and
Speaker 1: then he goes into meaningful relationships in the same sentence. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can pivot, like absolutely, but truly there are things
Speaker 1: that come from it. Yeah, And like the success rate
Speaker 1: of Paradise is amazing, and a lot of people like
Speaker 1: go on this journey with us and like kind of
Speaker 1: fall in love with these relationships. And I think that
Speaker 1: will be fun this season. I think you saw like
Speaker 1: a little bit of it. It's like people from the
Speaker 1: past get to come back to Paradise and um, you
Speaker 1: know kind of relive that fun. Uh. And I think
Speaker 1: that the fans are really going to love that as well. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we'll see some familiar faces. The consensus that I
Speaker 1: got from the forecast members that were there was that
Speaker 1: it's going to be shocking. I think every time they
Speaker 1: were asked answering a question, they were like, I was shocked,
Speaker 1: it was shocking, and I was like, and then Andrew,
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, it is hot. I do want to
Speaker 1: ask you this because I saw you last year on
Speaker 1: the Beaches of Paradise. It helped me fall in love,
Speaker 1: even though I did break up with Thomas for a
Speaker 1: hot second. I think I told you not to do that,
Speaker 1: but hey, we talked to but hey, look up, you
Speaker 1: know already married and I'm engaged. But I want to
Speaker 1: ask you overall, what has been your favorite season of Paradise.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a tough one. Um, let me help you out. Seven.
Speaker 1: Is that what season you were on? That was a
Speaker 1: good one. It was so good. I mean, like you're
Speaker 1: you fought it the entire time, which is really fun.
Speaker 1: And I remember being like, becks, like you need to
Speaker 1: stop fighting, like just enjoy it, Like, uh, that was great,
Speaker 1: Like the whole ivan saw it was kind of crazy. Wow. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so that was pretty great. There was also Rebecca, but
Speaker 1: because you can't, you can't, you can was way more
Speaker 1: favorite piece. Well, my favorite piece of Paradise ever was
Speaker 1: season four Paradise, when like we shut down for like
Speaker 1: the entire season because of craziness that was ensuing. So
Speaker 1: they made me do pup a treat for like half
Speaker 1: the time. A wedding happened, right, didn't. Yeah there was
Speaker 1: a wedding there, but yeah it was Evan and Carly's
Speaker 1: wedding and I so I just like like acted out
Speaker 1: scenes with puppets, and I to this day think it
Speaker 1: was the greatest television I've ever made, and I wish
Speaker 1: they would bring that back. Maybe it'll come back this season. Okay,
Speaker 1: so wells, congratulations because you are getting married, yes, very shortly, hopefully,
Speaker 1: fingers crossed. It's all gonna go wi um. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a dirty floral theme of all he's given me. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be beautiful. I'm so happy for you and Sarah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't wait. It's gonna be really fun to bring
Speaker 1: all these weird people from different parts of our lives
Speaker 1: into one room and make them all be cordial with
Speaker 1: one another. Um. And then also it's a weird thing.
Speaker 1: It's really wonderful. I got to experience a little bit
Speaker 1: on the Bachelor party of people that you love so
Speaker 1: much coming to celebrate you and your love and like
Speaker 1: being champions for you. Um. It's a weird feeling as
Speaker 1: someone who kind of shies away from I don't like
Speaker 1: a whole lot of it. That sounds like he doesn't
Speaker 1: any attention. He does podcast everything. But you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Yeah, I feel weird about that. And it
Speaker 1: is a really nice thing to have people that like
Speaker 1: you love um, and that means something do you, um,
Speaker 1: be happy for like the love that you found. And
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about that. We'll soak in that love.
Speaker 1: We're so happy for you. Everybody grab glass cheers Sarah. Well,
Speaker 1: we've had you on the podcast. We've had on the
Speaker 1: podcast a couple of times, and it's like, I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the first time I can like smell you
Speaker 1: know what your perfu spoke. You just keep talking about smelling.
Speaker 1: I mean, such a person though, Hey we're smelling. I
Speaker 1: remember people. I'm obsessed. It's my favorite part. Um who
Speaker 1: started who? Yeah, the arn't smelling who started it. We
Speaker 1: would always like smell my art, check my teeth, do
Speaker 1: my hair, like if we were all over each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole time. So I will say, watching all the
Speaker 1: art pit smelling back as weird as it is, I
Speaker 1: looked at Michelle and I was like, I wish I
Speaker 1: had somebody to go through this journey with me, like,
Speaker 1: and it was so funny because we were talking to
Speaker 1: Wells back stag as we're watching all. He's like, no,
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't want anyone to like take my time
Speaker 1: with the guys, and like, you only have such a
Speaker 1: small handful of men to meat that you'll actually click with.
Speaker 1: And I was like, you don't get it. You haven't
Speaker 1: like been the lead, like having somebody with you. And
Speaker 1: the more I watch you and Gaby together, I think
Speaker 1: it's so special, Like I now I'm kind of having
Speaker 1: foam all. I'm like, shit, can we redo our seasons together?
Speaker 1: And we get to do like all of our press
Speaker 1: and stuff together and we just have so much fun.
Speaker 1: And I think it's so easy for people to pick
Speaker 1: us apart and be like, oh, they deserve their own season.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I wouldn't ever want one and be such
Speaker 1: a different vibe to you, Like would be so different,
Speaker 1: you know when you live in something like this that's
Speaker 1: now your experience. It's you and Gabby doing this journey
Speaker 1: together and I hate to say journey, but it is.
Speaker 1: And like, yeah, if you were to ever redo it,
Speaker 1: and not to say that you ever would, but like
Speaker 1: you wouldn't even want to never because it couldn't be
Speaker 1: what it was, you know, No, I truly wouldn't. And
Speaker 1: I really feel like the ultimate takeaway from this, even
Speaker 1: when we're going through hard times like the Logan thing,
Speaker 1: I was able to watch it back and like me
Speaker 1: and Gabby going through this together and supporting each other
Speaker 1: and having each other's backs, Like that's the ultimate takeaway.
Speaker 1: And I think it's so easy for people to take
Speaker 1: the negative, but there's so much positive. Oh man, that
Speaker 1: was anomous to be with each other and that was
Speaker 1: like the cool thing. It's such a nerve wrecking situation too.
Speaker 1: It's just like when you can actually just relax as
Speaker 1: much as you can, definitely as much as you can
Speaker 1: on the season. It really is on one hour of
Speaker 1: sleeve seventeen like Champagne, I do not miss that. Oh
Speaker 1: I'll get ate only eight hours of sleep now and
Speaker 1: I'm like, you would always nap like she'd being full
Speaker 1: makeup just snapping while they're doing my liner and everything,
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, it adds up, it does. I always
Speaker 1: wanted to do my makeup sleeping, and then she just
Speaker 1: never did because I was too anxious all the time.
Speaker 1: But I feel like it's something I have to live through.
Speaker 1: At some point. One time, I actually fell as I've
Speaker 1: never fallen asleep standing up. I fell asleep in the chair.
Speaker 1: In the chair, I'm like, oh my god, what is
Speaker 1: my life? Well, And that's the thing, like people don't
Speaker 1: realize there's like they see snippets of what you and
Speaker 1: Gabby go through, you know, for two hours every Monday night,
Speaker 1: Like there's so much that you guys are put through,
Speaker 1: like on your body, on your mind, everything. What was
Speaker 1: like the hardest part of being one of the leads
Speaker 1: and then your favorite part? Honestly, I feel like the
Speaker 1: hardest part is just having so many connections in these
Speaker 1: great group of guys. You have to me these really
Speaker 1: hard decisions so quickly, And I think it's so easy
Speaker 1: for people to look at what we do and pick
Speaker 1: our decisions apart or say we made the wrong decision.
Speaker 1: But you really just have to trust yourself through it all.
Speaker 1: And you guys know more than anything. These relationships are
Speaker 1: happening so quickly and you get so limited time, so ultimately,
Speaker 1: I think that was the hardest part, But I mean
Speaker 1: the greatest part was just I feel like we had
Speaker 1: such a great group of men who really put us first,
Speaker 1: and I really couldn't be happier with the way it
Speaker 1: all turned out good and having their group, having their
Speaker 1: group of men and coming into tonight and knowing that
Speaker 1: you'd be able to see them again all your feelings,
Speaker 1: Like I was freaking out my trailer. I was remember
Speaker 1: I'm like I almost paid my pants walking out when
Speaker 1: I came out to the Mental Life through I remember
Speaker 1: watching yours and I was like, all your men were
Speaker 1: like bowing down, and I love that, but I got
Speaker 1: our guys are just so supportive as well. I was
Speaker 1: not expecting the outpour of support consistently, and they've always
Speaker 1: been so amazing, so it was really great. It was
Speaker 1: hard to see some obviously, but amazing. Was there one
Speaker 1: person coming into tonight that you were either looking forward
Speaker 1: to seeing or you're not looking forward to seeing her interacting? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the person tonight that I was most nervous
Speaker 1: to see and excited was Tyler. I just watched our
Speaker 1: breakup and it was hard to live, but it's harder
Speaker 1: to watch back and you're in that moment and reliving it.
Speaker 1: And he's just such an incredible guy. And to sit
Speaker 1: down with him when we were able to have a
Speaker 1: conversation and to still have him be so amazing and
Speaker 1: so supportive. I just I feel so lucky to have
Speaker 1: known him, and I really just hope he gets all
Speaker 1: the love and happiness in the world. Maybe I'm Paradise,
Speaker 1: who knows. But he's just like, Okay, well, I know
Speaker 1: we only had one more question, but I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: one more because I need you to tell us all
Speaker 1: about your look. It's stunning. When you walked out again,
Speaker 1: we were sitting in the press room and we're all like,
Speaker 1: she is slain, a little like nude Kardashian look through.
Speaker 1: I guess people, I think I'm more of a conservative dresser.
Speaker 1: And this season, people, have you know, been able to
Speaker 1: see that. I mean, Carrie, like, what if we do
Speaker 1: a sea through? Momm Yes, it looks so good. You
Speaker 1: look stunning, Carrie Fatman Special. I love it. You look
Speaker 1: great from the jewelry to the shoes. It's so lovely,
Speaker 1: so amazing. Thank you guys for having me. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to leave either people. Yeah, no
Speaker 1: we will. We don't need the other guys. Keep the
Speaker 1: girls on next up, but we have Tyler. You drew
Speaker 1: some tears tonight, No, well from the audience from watching
Speaker 1: that sad goodbye It really was, though. How are you
Speaker 1: feeling after watching it all replay once again? Um? You know,
Speaker 1: watching the season back definitely got closure, like seeing where
Speaker 1: Rachel was in a relationship with the other guys and
Speaker 1: understanding why ultimately what had happened happened. And there's not
Speaker 1: a thing I would have changed, you know. I went
Speaker 1: in with it with a full heart, like ready to
Speaker 1: put my whole self out there for somebody. And I
Speaker 1: was ready for a relationship. And I met an amazing woman,
Speaker 1: had great experiences with her. Watching it ends, watching the
Speaker 1: rise in the fall of my relationship, you know, you
Speaker 1: definitely bring up like old emotions and yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was definitely tough, but you know, something that I
Speaker 1: was prepared for. And um, you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: there's just nothing that I would change about it. So
Speaker 1: everything worked out the way that it was supposed to.
Speaker 1: Good I want to ask you because you admitted something
Speaker 1: tonight and that's the fact that you slid into Rachel's
Speaker 1: d MS. Take us back, like, I mean the timeline here,
Speaker 1: Wait did that happen? And do you remember what you said? Yes?
Speaker 1: So what had happened? Was the only season that I watched,
Speaker 1: like every single episode was Clayton's season, and I remember
Speaker 1: so sorry. The first episode, I remember seeing Rachel guy
Speaker 1: at Lemo and I was just like this girls beautiful. Wow. Um.
Speaker 1: The next episode came on and I was drinking a lot.
Speaker 1: I was absolutely hammered, and I was just like why
Speaker 1: not just oh like episode two shots fired? Why not?
Speaker 1: And I said, Hey, things don't work out with Clayton
Speaker 1: and you ever end up as a Bacherette, sign me
Speaker 1: up because I literally I think you're literally gorgeous. Shut up? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the producers that had happened. And then a week later,
Speaker 1: I get a random call from LA and they said, hey, like,
Speaker 1: we're casting producers from the Bachelrette. Would you be interested
Speaker 1: in the show? And I'm like no, seriously, like who
Speaker 1: is this? And one of my friend's girlfriend had nominated
Speaker 1: me for the show, and I got a call like
Speaker 1: randomly out of nowhere. I had nothing to do with
Speaker 1: like Rachel pushing that message to anybody else. She didn't
Speaker 1: even know she was gonna be boucher at that point
Speaker 1: when he ended her at that point. Yeah, oh wow, okay,
Speaker 1: oh wait did she just put you on red? So
Speaker 1: I couldn't I didn't see because we weren't friends, so
Speaker 1: you can't see read or not, um, so I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: how wow you talked about this on the show, right,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, can you imagine the first time this comes out?
Speaker 1: I mean, this is kind of like psychopath right down now,
Speaker 1: Like when I went on, Like, you know, obviously I
Speaker 1: want to have an open mind because you know, you
Speaker 1: see somebody on a show, right and you're hoping that
Speaker 1: they're like the way that they were on the show.
Speaker 1: So I just went in going like all right, we like,
Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. You know, obviously I think
Speaker 1: this girl's gorgeous. You know, is there a personality the
Speaker 1: exact same person that I saw? And she was everything
Speaker 1: and more and just like getting to know her even more,
Speaker 1: like getting to know like all the amazing qualities about her.
Speaker 1: It was just like wow, Like not only did I
Speaker 1: have a crush, on her report. But now my crush
Speaker 1: is like even more just because I actually got to
Speaker 1: know her and she was just everything you could ask
Speaker 1: for in somebody. I'm trying to think like if I
Speaker 1: was in your position and say I did that like
Speaker 1: something into some random person's dams, like shooting my shot,
Speaker 1: but like a far shot. The fact that that all
Speaker 1: came to fruition. Did you just feel like you were
Speaker 1: living in a dream while filming? Yeah, I walked up
Speaker 1: Limo was looking out and like I saw Gabby and Rachel.
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh no, She's like this is
Speaker 1: happening right now, and you yeah, the Limo and you
Speaker 1: just black out. You just walk up and I thank
Speaker 1: god they didn't show my entrance when I walked up.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was I did the Uncut Gems thing,
Speaker 1: you know, uncut jobs, TikTok thing, so he woke up.
Speaker 1: It was the whoever the actresses from Uncut Gems with
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler, and she had like an interview where she goes,
Speaker 1: I felt like his muse and like I was his
Speaker 1: uncut jomb so at you know what, why not call
Speaker 1: both of the women Uncut Gems. Maybe they'll catch onto it.
Speaker 1: They called on. Thank god, they laugh, they laugh, they
Speaker 1: had a reference. I would have just walked right back
Speaker 1: into because I would have been like, take me home
Speaker 1: in the New Jersey. Okay, you with all the hearing
Speaker 1: all this stuff that happened with Rachel deciding into the DMS,
Speaker 1: this whole entire story, did you feel like it was
Speaker 1: fate at that point? And then you know, when your
Speaker 1: journey does come to the end. Was that really hard
Speaker 1: to accept? In process? Um, you know, going into the journey,
Speaker 1: you know the accepting part, like I you know what
Speaker 1: you're putting yourself into, Like it's not just you. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't in the real world. You don't date somebody
Speaker 1: who's dating thirty something like guys at the same time.
Speaker 1: So your chances of you ending up with you know,
Speaker 1: the Batchel right at the end of the day or slim,
Speaker 1: and like you just go into it with the mindset
Speaker 1: hopefully it's me. If it's not me, then it's not
Speaker 1: And you know, when everything had happened and ended the
Speaker 1: way that it did, like I just knew because I
Speaker 1: made such good relationships with the guys, like knowing that
Speaker 1: she ultimately was going to end up with somebody, So amazing, like,
Speaker 1: that's all you want for her at the end of
Speaker 1: the day. If it's not you, hopefully it's somebody that
Speaker 1: you know, we'll give her the respect and make her
Speaker 1: feel like the only girl like in the world and
Speaker 1: the rest of the guys. You know, I just knew
Speaker 1: that she had that, so I was okay with it.
Speaker 1: You know, I understood, you know, as things and full
Speaker 1: ti times it's really hard to just accept that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's definitely it's definitely tough, but you know,
Speaker 1: it comes down in the mindset that you had, and
Speaker 1: I just knew that. You know, if it's not me,
Speaker 1: it's going to be somebody else, And yeah, she's gonna
Speaker 1: get everything she wants. I have a feeling this isn't
Speaker 1: the last we see of you, mister Tyler. Yeah, see
Speaker 1: me again. I'll be here. I mean, we did see
Speaker 1: a pretty in depth trailer of Paradise today, our little teaser,
Speaker 1: so maybe we will have you on batch her Happy
Speaker 1: Hour again. I'm hoping, so, I hope. So that's had
Speaker 1: so much fun. We've had fun too, So thank you
Speaker 1: for entertaining that this past season. Okay, Logan, thank you
Speaker 1: for coming to Bachelor Happy hour. I have to say
Speaker 1: them a little bit upset you don't have two chicks
Speaker 1: in your hand. Yeah, you did not come prepared. They
Speaker 1: couldn't make it. I'm actually surprised. I feel like there's
Speaker 1: always like some sort of prop. I mean, we have
Speaker 1: the Mariner ass, but I'm surprised that they didn't bring
Speaker 1: the chicks today. Yeah, I think prop comedy might may
Speaker 1: not have played well on the hot seat. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe hey have to bring them on. You said to
Speaker 1: bring them with you for the interview, and Beck and
Speaker 1: I would have just called them and played with them interview. No, Okay,
Speaker 1: we obviously loved to joke and just give our own ship,
Speaker 1: but realistically, like mindset, now, after mental all is done,
Speaker 1: you've seen the women, you've seen the men. How are
Speaker 1: you feeling? You know what? I feel good? Um, obviously
Speaker 1: there's like a lot of tough questions and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of tension, and I don't I don't blame people
Speaker 1: for having questions. I think if I were in the
Speaker 1: shoes of some of my friends or in the issues
Speaker 1: of the women, I would have questions too. So it
Speaker 1: was a relief to be able to kind of express
Speaker 1: where I was coming from and to be able to
Speaker 1: I wanted to get across the sentiment that like, I'm
Speaker 1: still learning and there were things that I would do differently,
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, I came from
Speaker 1: a place of you know, honesty, and I was my
Speaker 1: heart was in the right place. That's what I wanted
Speaker 1: to get across. And you know, I think a couple
Speaker 1: of people saw that. Maybe not everybody, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel good about today. Yeah. Well, in the grand scheme
Speaker 1: of things in micheline, I've talked about this, like the
Speaker 1: whole switch ru that you did, you know that caused
Speaker 1: quote unquote drama that wasn't even that much drama. Let's
Speaker 1: be honest. I don't think the issue necessarily was like
Speaker 1: this switch, but more so, like the time frame and
Speaker 1: the timing of accepting Rachel's roses for three weeks bring
Speaker 1: us back to like when you were filming, what was
Speaker 1: your mindset? Did you did you just want to make
Speaker 1: sure you knew that you wanted to see how things
Speaker 1: were with Gabby or was it just kind of like
Speaker 1: allotted with I mean, we all know the travel schedule
Speaker 1: or whatever it might be. It's a great, great question. Um,
Speaker 1: you know that first night at the at their mansion
Speaker 1: when I was selected from the speedo competition to go
Speaker 1: hang out with them. Obviously I had time with both
Speaker 1: of them and we both shared, you know, a kiss
Speaker 1: and really good conversation. And I did feel at that
Speaker 1: point like the connection with Gabby like moved me and
Speaker 1: that it was it was palpable, it was heavy to me,
Speaker 1: and it felt strong. But I did have a great
Speaker 1: conversation with Rachel and I did feel attracted to her,
Speaker 1: and when she offered me the rose, I thought, maybe
Speaker 1: this is a really ship that will take time. Maybe
Speaker 1: there's something here that I haven't quite found. Maybe she
Speaker 1: takes longer to open up, maybe there's a spark that
Speaker 1: all it takes is a date and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden we will see something that's not there yet. And
Speaker 1: you know what, looking back, I should have spoke my
Speaker 1: feelings right then and there when she offered me the rose,
Speaker 1: but I decided, you know what, it's still early. I'm
Speaker 1: going to see if maybe this turns into something. Maybe
Speaker 1: my feelings will change, maybe their feelings will change. And
Speaker 1: you just can't think like that in these environments because
Speaker 1: the circumstances changed so quick. And I wasn't able to
Speaker 1: have a one on one conversation with them uninterrupted for
Speaker 1: another two and a half weeks after that, And so, yeah,
Speaker 1: looking back, you know what, after I was offered that rose,
Speaker 1: I would have said, I'm honored and I'm flattered and
Speaker 1: I'm so open to exploring things. But to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, my connection with Gabby felt really moving, and
Speaker 1: I thought I was going to get a rose from her.
Speaker 1: That's what I would have liked to have done. But
Speaker 1: obviously that's hindsight, you know. So as you're watching all
Speaker 1: of this back and you're watching their emotions, you're kind
Speaker 1: of rethinking about how you navigated the entire situation. How
Speaker 1: are you feeling it about speaking with both Gabby and
Speaker 1: Rachel going into mental all and kind of having to
Speaker 1: explain that, Yeah, I think I'm on very different in
Speaker 1: very different places with each of them. They hold a
Speaker 1: strong friendship, obviously, so there's a level of support that
Speaker 1: they have for each other. I think the fact that
Speaker 1: Gabby welcomed me in and saw something worth exploring, we're
Speaker 1: maybe in a little bit of a better place right
Speaker 1: now than that of me and Rachel. I want Rachel
Speaker 1: to know how like I see how difficult her journey was,
Speaker 1: and I hate that I contributed to that difficulty. But
Speaker 1: she's like so strong and she's gotten through it, and
Speaker 1: you know, she doesn't need me to keep apologizing. I
Speaker 1: think she's kind of tired of me talking about it, probably,
Speaker 1: And I don't I don't blame her, but yeah, certain
Speaker 1: things just you know, take a little time. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think either of them have harsh feelings towards me,
Speaker 1: but maybe he's a little tender, you know. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: and so speaking of time, I have a feeling that
Speaker 1: this is not the last time we see you on
Speaker 1: our TV screens. We obviously did see a little sprinkling
Speaker 1: of Paradise and the teaser tonight. Is there anything I
Speaker 1: don't even like want to give it. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: ask us what can we expect from that? Um? I
Speaker 1: break down the walls a little bit in Paradise, Um
Speaker 1: I yeah, show a little bit more emotion. I'm kind
Speaker 1: of like a stow it guy sometimes and okay, break
Speaker 1: it down a little bit and on the beach, yeah,
Speaker 1: um yeah, I feel things very deeply over there in Paradise,
Speaker 1: and sometimes that's a good thing. Sometimes it hurts a
Speaker 1: little bit. But yeah, I'm excited to watch bag. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I mean everyone kept saying it was
Speaker 1: supposed to be shocking, so I hope it lives up
Speaker 1: to the hype. But Logan, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1: I know that there's probably so much we could have
Speaker 1: covered and talked about it, n asked you, but obviously
Speaker 1: time is limited. But again, if we do see you
Speaker 1: on the screen, I'm sure this is not the last
Speaker 1: time we'll see you. I'm happy, No, I hope not.
Speaker 1: That you guys are great. Well, thank you Logan. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, Michelle, this is well, this is the second
Speaker 1: time we've done this in person together. I'm so glad
Speaker 1: that we could be in studio and that was fun
Speaker 1: just talking to multiple people switching ended up getting multiple
Speaker 1: sides of every story. Really, this is your first tell
Speaker 1: that you've done. Yes, actually, yes, you know that now
Speaker 1: that you say that. It is and it's like the
Speaker 1: first time interviewing other people in person. But it's also
Speaker 1: such an emotional night because so many things happen with
Speaker 1: mental all or at any of these teels, and it's
Speaker 1: like you walk it, you go in having these thoughts
Speaker 1: of what you wanted to talk about, and then you
Speaker 1: get closer or maybe not closure. So I think there's
Speaker 1: like a lot of emotions, but it's overall positive all
Speaker 1: over the place, you I mean. And here's the thing,
Speaker 1: like we want to talk to everyone about all of
Speaker 1: the drama, about all of the emotion and feeling and
Speaker 1: like the end of a lot of relationships, and we
Speaker 1: just simply can't get into the nitty gritty. But I'm
Speaker 1: sure we'll see more unfold as the season goes on.
Speaker 1: But this was so much fun. I'm so glad that
Speaker 1: we could be here together. So think you, Michelle. Thanks
Speaker 1: to both of the girls and all of the guys
Speaker 1: that we had on today, and also a huge thank
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