WEBVTT - LIVE from ‘Men Tell All’ 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:05.800 Welcome back Happy our listeners. We are here in studio 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:09.880 for a very excited episode. We are here live with 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:13.360 Mentell all and first and foremost, we were talking to 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:18.600 some of new favorite guys, and well, speaking of favorite guys, 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:21.480 we actually are starting with Nate here on Happy Hour. 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:25.040 We saw a lot go down tonight, so I want 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.560 to get into all of it because a lot of 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:29.680 the viewers won't see everything. So we want to get 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:32.400 like the behind the scenes, the tea, like how you 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.200 were feeling in the moment of the hot sea seeing 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:38.400 Gabby again. So let's get into it first and foremost. 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:40.280 I feel like we have to start off Happy Hour 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:45.240 right with h Chios. So welcome Nate, Well, welcome Michelle. 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:49.320 Feels good to see in person again. Well, I feel good. 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:51.560 Just got out of the Vince tell All is good 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.320 seeing the guys again, good seeing the girls, and it's 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:57.840 just refreshing to be around familiar faces and people who 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:01.080 you went through so much with. So I feel really good. Right. Well, yeah, 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:03.080 this is the first time that you guys have all 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:06.600 been reunited, well not all, because obviously Chris and Hayden 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.920 did not show up. Most the first time you guys 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:11.720 are all in the same room again, Like what was 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.679 that vibe? Like that vibe was just a positive energy, 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:17.480 was one of just like accomplishment when you know, we 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:19.360 all tried to find love. It didn't happen, but we 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:23.160 found friendship and memories and experiences that we did grow from. 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:25.640 And we're going to continue to be the people that 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:29.000 you saw us as and maybe continue on with the 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:31.840 fascination if it so leads us down that path. Oh yeah, 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:36.759 you're stuck with us. I'm sorry, whether or not this world. 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:38.720 That's so interesting though, that you say that, just because 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:42.160 I think people who go into mental or even women 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:45.560 tal all, it's not always like a positive vibe. You know. 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.080 There's a lot of drama that sometimes unfools, right, like 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:52.080 drama between the contestants, some that tends or a lot 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.480 a lot all the ways too much, right, But it's 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.400 but to like go into it and have that sense 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:03.440 of accomplishment afterwards, it's not necessarily a normal thing. Do 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:06.000 you feel like you were able to say everything that 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.239 you wanted to? Yeah, I definitely felt like I had 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:12.079 the platform to speak from my heart and to address 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.839 the issues that happened in the house that people may 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.240 not have known, you know, just like saying like I 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.880 wasn't a part of the first Crisp part and that, 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.799 you know, I had a reaction to Hayden, and I 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:24.639 didn't really get to address it on the ship, but 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.920 I talked to him, you know, onside conversations about how 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.359 that wasn't really correct, and then it being able to 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.440 address it to the crowd it felt freeing. And then 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.000 as well as being able to reminisce with Gabby over 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:36.800 our time and let her know that I supported a 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.680 decision even though it hurt, like I still valued our 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:42.399 relationship and I grew from it. So that was very 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:43.920 free and it was I was glad that I got 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:45.880 to do that tonight. I feel like you can finally 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:48.880 breathe easy a little bit now that this is behind you. Yeah. Yeah, 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.320 I feel like the consensus for people coming in, like 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.400 you said, whether it's meant to all or women to all, 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:57.000 is they dread it. They don't want to do it 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.720 because you never know what's gonna like be brought up 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:01.800 again and what you have to rehash. But I feel 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.400 like every time, especially last Women until All, we did 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:07.119 this in person, and we were cycling contestants through and 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.640 the consensus was that they were like, we're so happy 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:11.560 we did it. We're so happy it's over. But now 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:13.640 we can just like put this behind us and move 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:15.360 on with our life and like go on to the 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:18.240 next chapter. Yeah, it's like closure with an X. Like 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:20.800 you may not like it all the time, but it 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:22.440 needs to be done so you can move forward with 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:24.960 your life. And that was a bit step in the 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:28.400 right direction for I think all of us. One thing 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.680 I wanted to ask you is because you had the 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.360 hot seat, which obviously we could well not we I 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.880 wasn't there, but you could talk about everything from night 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:41.560 one to your relationship with Gabby and then fast forward 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:43.560 to Gabby and Rachel are sitting in front of you 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:45.640 at the end of the night. And one thing that 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:50.000 I found very powerful and moving in that conversation where 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:54.120 they addressed you actually and like the social media everything 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:57.120 that's been going on, they said that they got to 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:00.040 know you for you right and they can speak to 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.240 how kind of a person you are, how respectful of 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.240 a person you are. And I felt like that was 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.840 a very special moment because they actually know you for 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.240 who you are, which I think is so important. People 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.720 forget as they're watching TV show that it is behind 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:15.040 the screen and it's edited, and you know, everyone has 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.360 like their thoughts on somebody until they get to know them. 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.560 So how in that moment when they're kind of coming 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:21.680 about for you, how did that feel? It meant a 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:23.920 lot for me. You know, I'm not going to say 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:25.400 that I was perfect. You know, I made a lot 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:27.360 of mistakes in my past, but I have grown from 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.599 that and I just wanted it to shine through with 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:32.840 my character and what I've been doing moving forward. And 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:34.680 I'm glad that they were able to see me for 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:38.160 who I was during the show and who I'm going 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:41.040 to continue to try to be. You know, anybody can 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.120 point at you know, everybody can point at a pass 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:45.800 where it did something stupid to me, not have acted 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:47.800 in the right character that they should have been. But 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:51.160 I've since moved from you know, that behavior, and I'm 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:54.680 glad that they were able to recognize it. Yeah, I 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.160 think that was important. We've all done stupid stuff. We've 0:04:57.160 --> 0:05:00.479 all said stupid stuff knowing said anything perfectly. But I 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:02.440 think who we saw on the screen and who they 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:04.279 can attest to, and even the men that lived with you, 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.640 who they can attest to your character. I think is 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:10.600 should speak volumes over anything else. I'm just so consistent, 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:12.479 you know. I think that's a hard part that people 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:17.760 forget about, is the fact that as this is, you know, rerunning, 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:21.159 as everybody's watching, as you're watching, you might think that 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.159 you have a piece of closure, and then something else 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.640 pops up or the you know, the audience's reactions pop up. 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:30.000 Do you feel like, with everything that has happened, are 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.440 you able to you know, be able to take those 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:34.600 steps forward and kind of let let that go off 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:38.760 your chest with hearing how Gabby you know truly does 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.279 believe who you are in your character. Yeah, it's always 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.720 good to be validated by the people around you have 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.800 seen the change in you, you know, it's you know, 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.680 I've forgiven myself for a lot of my past behaviors. 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:51.960 I feel like I hope that people who have known 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.160 me in the past can do the same. And then 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:55.880 I just want to make sure that the people who 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.320 are close to me continue to place me in check 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.040 if I do fall out online and getting the people 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.039 in you know, having the right circle around you does 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:06.240 really mold who you are, and I feel like I 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.919 do have that, and so I'm glad that you know 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:12.240 everything went well. I didn't do anything out of the 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.080 character that I wanted to be, and I'm still growing 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.040 into the man that i want to be. So I 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:19.280 do want to ask you because I mean, I've watched 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.480 the show for a while, I've done a few seasons. 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:25.839 I've had my heartbroken on it. We all have seen breakups. Yeah, 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:30.560 yours and Gabby's actually moved me to slight tears. I 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:33.360 will say that, which doesn't happen very often, but watching 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:38.280 that moment between you two was something so raw and 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.760 like you could see Gabby's real emotion, like with that 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.440 struggle of like he is such an incredible man. I'm 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:46.279 just not there yet, like not ready to be a 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.520 mom or a stepmoman. That's just so much to take on. 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.120 Oh my gosh, I don't ever know where to begin, 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:55.000 like rewatching it back, because that's the first time. I mean, 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.560 you obviously lived it, but that's the first time watching it. 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.360 Do you feel like now kind of have the closure 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.000 after seeing it all unfold and watching it back and 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.640 being able to speak with her. No. Absolutely, I think 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:09.560 that was absolutely one of the hardest breakups I've had 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:11.920 to go through. Because it wasn't anything with our connection. 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:15.280 It was just you know, life circumstances and to understand 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.120 that and be mature enough to be able to step 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.120 back and say, Okay, you're not there right now. I 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:22.480 still appreciate this for what it was, and I still 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:26.000 you know, have a deep amount of respect and admiration 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:27.840 for you. It was. It was special for me to 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.440 see it and just to know that she went through 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.800 a lot going through that relationship that she may not 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:34.440 have thought that she would have had to face during 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.600 this journey. So I'm just glad that I got to 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:40.600 be a part of that aspect in her life to see, 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.640 you know, see what she would face if she had 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:45.600 to date a guy with the child and know that, 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:50.760 you know, she can have a real connection even though 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:52.600 she may not be there, but she did make the 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:56.040 right choices. And I applaud her for not you know, 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.120 just going through the motions and met on challenge and 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.280 causing in that way. So it was it was really 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:06.400 meaningful for me as well, because our entire relationship was 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:09.040 beautiful to me and it still is and I and 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:12.320 I love the growth that I had going through that. Yeah, 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:15.200 it flows through the screen. It was not a dry eye. 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:18.119 Oh no, no, it was so quiet as we were watching. 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.480 All right, but I can take it away for a 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.560 really long time. This is the number one thing that 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:25.520 I had in my notes here. I love your suit. 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.480 I feel like it's not very often that we see 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:33.199 a good green Describe the fit for all of our listeners. 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:36.720 Oh my gosh, so I have a peak lapel green suit. 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:39.360 It's almost like a tweet, but not quite. It's like 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:44.199 a yeah, and explain here. Someone someone asked if this 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:49.839 is an earring. No, it's like a right, it's so 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.439 it's it's dedicated for a lapel pin, but it's this. 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:56.120 It's shaped as an earring, but it's a pearl to accident, 0:08:56.280 --> 0:09:00.000 you know, the pearl necklace that I well, we don't 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:07.520 talk about pearl Mexas here. Okay, yeah, okay, but I 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:10.800 just have to say we leave this. We named your 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:14.319 suit the Martini suit because it's like a jury mart 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:17.160 not dirty, but like an olive Martini like that, and 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:20.920 we love olives and Martini's. So yeah, we love the suit. 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.160 And you can bring the pearls back in in a 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:30.120 classier way, so we're good, straight, dad. It looks wonderful. 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.280 You did great, you were awesome. You're doing great, sweetie, 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:37.080 thank you, thank you. Here we go. I feel like 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.040 we don't even need an intro for this one. We 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:44.920 have one of the women of our please. I wasting 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.920 no time, how to say, I feel like a slop 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:51.840 kebab over here. Gabby is in her diamond encrusted dress 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:55.040 with her diamond laser on. My pants are unbuttoned, same 0:09:55.120 --> 0:10:02.280 here dress. Yeah, okay, we're wasting time. Were enough people all? 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:05.960 So we need more undressing? Yeah? Actually, speaking of your dress, 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.000 to tell us about it, I'm obsessed. I don't know 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:13.880 anything about it. It's lovely racket. The lizard liquor. Well, 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.160 at one point I saw only half the lizard and 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:17.920 I was like, I think she has an animal on 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:24.199 her dress. Feel like, I think it's a crocodile. It's 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:27.720 a dragon, a lizard, a crocodile, whatever style. I'm also 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:31.800 cold blooded girl. I feel like we're gonna get along 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:35.199 real well. Yeah, the color of my dress is my soul. 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:39.600 Thank you very much. Tonight. Yeah, coming into tonight, mente, all, 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.120 you weren't sure what kind of questions or things we're 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.079 gonna be coming your direction? If you're gonna be met 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.439 with heat if you were going to be met with 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.800 you know, just there's a lot of times when people 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.040 come into it with closure. How are you feeling walking 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:55.640 in tonight? I felt good walking into tonight. Honestly, I 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.520 felt like I got a lot of closure on the 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:59.960 show and while we were filming, and I always try 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.120 to be open and honest with the guys in the moment, 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.120 so they really got to know the full me. So 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.319 I feel like I walked away kind of with no regrets. 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:12.679 M Mario thought differently. I think, well, we don't need 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:17.120 to bring up old moons here. Well. So actually, speaking 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.000 of Mario and all of your exes, it's not every 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.560 day that you walk into a room with thirty of 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:25.000 your exes. No one likes me, need one, Let's be honest. 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.400 So what was that like? Like where was your mindset 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.439 walking in of like seeing these guys and is there 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.400 anything that you really wanted to say to any of them? 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.120 Not really? I mean I honestly felt like we were 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:39.360 treated with so much respect besides the Jacob and Hayden's 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.400 of it all. But Jacob, I think had a really 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.840 heartfelt apology and all I wanted to hear is that 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.480 he did learn and grow from what he had said 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:49.040 to us by watching it back. So when he said that, 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.280 I was like, there's nothing else that I can really give. 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:54.640 That meant the world. So I was excited. All the 0:11:54.679 --> 0:12:01.240 guys looked so good. Damn I did that night? Yeah, 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.120 had do you have any idea that Hayden was not 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:07.280 going to be here? I did? Was I supposed to do? 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:10.120 I don't know. I don't know what of What were 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.360 your thoughts and what were your thoughts when you found 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:14.360 out he was not going to be here? I chose 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.560 not to it, Honestly, wasn't that surprising? Truthfully? I think 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:20.959 he was getting a lot of heat online and stuff, rightfully, so, 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.520 so I think he could have taken the high road, 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:25.720 came to apologize and see what he had to have said. 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:27.720 But I think he would have gotten ripped apart by 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.760 the men, probably by me. So maybe he was just 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.880 trying to probably by us also. Yeah, so if he 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:36.880 was trying to protect himself, and that's what he needs. 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.480 But hopefully he can learn and grow from the situation too. Ye. 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.559 What was your highlight of the entire night so far? 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.360 I think you're seeing Nate especially with the last episode 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.480 that aired. I can't believe that was the last time 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.240 we truly saw each other, and he did and does 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.200 mean so much to me, So being able to have 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:56.520 one last conversation that was really heartfelt and just I 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.840 think we picked up right where we left off, and 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:01.000 we both have such a mute respect for each other, 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:03.840 so not that I expected anything different, but it was 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.520 really good to have that again, and that respect was 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.040 definitely shown because you did, you know the statement of 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.800 I do know unate, you know, after he kind of 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:14.880 really spoke about everything that was going on, the different 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.880 things that have come out online as this is unfolding, 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:21.079 and for you to have so much confidence in him 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:23.880 and show him that what are your thoughts or what 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:28.559 were your just reactions and intentions as those things were 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:32.160 starting to come not even come to light because again rumors, 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:35.400 but that's a part of this. How did you feel 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.120 when all that was just kind of erupting? I think 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.160 because I do know him so well and he was 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:43.400 such a big presence in my journey and in the house. 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:46.280 I know all the boys love him. He was always 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.160 teaching them how to treat women and how to have 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.920 integrity and kind of do this the right way that 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.160 when I heard about that stuff, it didn't even shake me. 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:55.920 I didn't think twice I was like, I can't believe 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.079 he's going through this. I can't believe that people are 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.040 taking their precious time to take someone else down and 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:04.520 you know, um kind of ruining an opportunity for them 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:07.199 and living in this very positive light that they've built 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:10.120 for themselves. And not to mention it's his decision when 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.160 he chooses, and if he chooses to share that he 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.520 has a child. I didn't ever. I mean, he was 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:19.120 always upfront with me. We had a really good conversation 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.120 about it, and it I always brought her into conversation 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.920 and we are all talked about it. But that's not 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:28.000 that's on his decision. That's not up to me. So 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:30.280 I'll take, of course, what's given to me. But I 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.120 think everyone has seen watching back how good of a 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.480 guy he really is, and I don't think that should 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.200 shake it. I don't think that should change anyone's mind. Yeah, 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:41.920 so my last question for you, Gabby hits Mecca. You 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:49.040 know in the face. You know we saw meeop all 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:56.200 slowly undressed. We saw him for that lovely Marion Haarrosaus 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:58.560 all about his body. Did you like I loved it? 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.600 I was like, I want somebody to do this to 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:07.280 me too, Really, that's what I love. Sauce. Yes, yeah, yeah, 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:11.840 something and then the dame. But my question was do 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:15.760 you feel like there was ever a decision that should 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:17.560 have been made? Okay, let me let me ask to 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.720 keep ba for yes. Yes, do you feel like you 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.080 and Rachel may have made a mistake and you should 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.320 have kept him till the very end, till the very 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.680 end for both of you. Yeah, I don't believe you. 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:30.480 I would be the same. He's the one who got 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:34.720 away me Ball is the walls that got away. Gabby, 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.840 you are always so much fun to have. You truly 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:42.000 are one of a kind. I love it. Hoofiness, classiness, 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.040 wear your heart in your sleeve. It's been awesome and 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:50.200 thank you for joining us today. Next up, Mario is 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.760 here the first impression Rosemanner himself. You were just saying 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.600 you wanted to introduce yourself. Here you go, take it away. 0:15:56.680 --> 0:16:01.760 I got the first impression. Rose. How are you feeling 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:05.960 after everything tonight? I'm feeling I'm feeling okay. I just 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:09.840 I'm very like I'll be honest, I think that, you know, 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:11.880 for me, the big question was like, hey, you got 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.720 the first impression rose from Gabby. You did not get 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.400 a one on one. It's not about that, but I 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.960 felt like we didn't even get a chance to build 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:23.280 toward that this season, right, And so m I spoke 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:27.520 with her and I got closure, but I felt like, 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.240 you know, it was more of like a I agree 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.960 to disagree type thing, and you know, with them being 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:34.920 the two leads in the setting, like that you want 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:36.440 to be careful about and I was very I felt 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:38.200 like I was respectful with the way that I spoke 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.880 with her about, you know, why we didn't really connect 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:43.640 the way that we did and why we weren't able 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:47.320 to continue to build or capitalize on our first night. 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.480 But I felt like she gave me a response that 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:57.360 I understood. But I still feel like that, you know, 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.720 based on the season and the rejecting of Roses, that 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.680 when that when the Roses came out the third episode 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.840 that I was with Gabby, you know, and I just 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:07.240 wish I would have got a chance to build on 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.800 top of that. And so her reasoning was, you know, essentially, hey, 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.359 the guys that were with me, they were about me 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.640 from day one, and I was like, whoa, so was I. 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.320 But you know, I'm not gonna hit the gas on 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.920 that too much. So yeah, what kind of okay? So 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:25.200 you said that you were the situation that happened. Can't 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:28.639 go back and change it, unfortunately, But is there something 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:31.159 that you would have liked to hear from Gabby that 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:36.000 you didn't hear tonight? I think that part of me 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:37.600 wishes that she would have been like, you know what, 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:43.320 You're right in a sense, you know, because I felt 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.280 like when I was watching this season back, I was 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:48.280 waiting for them to show kind of a moment where 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.920 Gabby and I didn't connect, but all you saw was 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:52.919 like the first impression I had kind of a playful 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.480 interaction with Rachel the second episode, where you know, I 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:57.280 took her through a workout and I was squatting with her, 0:17:57.280 --> 0:17:59.520 But there was no like moment where it was like, 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:01.679 oh and this is Mario, this is why him and 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:05.320 Gabby didn't work out, And so part of me was like, man, 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:07.080 you know, and talking to friends and family, they're like, 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:08.880 where did you go? Like you got their first rows? 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.959 What actually happened? And I'm like, I don't know, but 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:14.280 I'm going to find out tonight, right, And so she 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:17.800 gave me a response that I felt like was was 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:21.399 fair and something that I get where she's coming from. 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:23.679 You know, the other guys made her a priority, but 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:25.560 I felt like, man, all I did was have a 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:27.880 conversation with Rachel and kind of have a playful interaction. 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.720 It was week two, and so that's kind of what 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:32.560 I'm getting out a little bit. Do you feel like 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:34.960 it's okay? So I do hear you on what you're saying. 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.800 And so you said that you when you're speaking or 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:40.080 when you're watching the show, you're waiting for like this 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:43.600 moment where you see you guys have like a miscommunication 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:46.040 or disconnected correct, And you said you feel like you 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.760 didn't see it first Tory line. Okay, So are you 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.520 saying that you wish you had more time based off 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:56.520 of your actual reality interaction with her, because it seemed 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:58.560 like you guys are on the same page, right, or 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:03.680 of more of your story shown, of seeing that connection 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:06.000 and that connection to continue to play out on the screen. 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.720 Does that make sense? Yeah, the second one, more of 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:13.720 our connection shown to continue to show, Like she kind 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:15.639 of alluded to Rachel today she didn't say her name, 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:18.040 but she was like, you know, we were like trying 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:20.359 to figure out which side you were on, and so 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:22.639 I was like, well, when the roses came out, I 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:24.920 was for you. And I know I've said this a lot, 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:27.160 but like we saw a lot of rejecting, a lot 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:30.760 of people pivoting essentially, and so I never did that. 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:34.119 And I think I just wish and show time that 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.080 there could have been more of like a story because 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:39.359 we did have a connection. I just didn't see it 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.879 really grow. And that's okay because Gabby doesn't own me anything. 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:45.920 I just wish that like I got some sort of closure, 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:49.120 and I did tonight, but I mean even like from 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:52.120 her in a show. Well, so I want to ask 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:56.439 this on the flip side then, because other relationships that 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:59.719 she had with other men obviously were growing and our 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:04.320