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Speaker 1: Welcome back Happy our listeners. We are here in studio

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Speaker 1: for a very excited episode. We are here live with

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Speaker 1: Mentell all and first and foremost, we were talking to

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Speaker 1: some of new favorite guys, and well, speaking of favorite guys,

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Speaker 1: we actually are starting with Nate here on Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: We saw a lot go down tonight, so I want

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Speaker 1: to get into all of it because a lot of

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Speaker 1: the viewers won't see everything. So we want to get

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Speaker 1: like the behind the scenes, the tea, like how you

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Speaker 1: were feeling in the moment of the hot sea seeing

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Speaker 1: Gabby again. So let's get into it first and foremost.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we have to start off Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: right with h Chios. So welcome Nate, Well, welcome Michelle.

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Speaker 1: Feels good to see in person again. Well, I feel good.

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Speaker 1: Just got out of the Vince tell All is good

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Speaker 1: seeing the guys again, good seeing the girls, and it's

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Speaker 1: just refreshing to be around familiar faces and people who

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Speaker 1: you went through so much with. So I feel really good. Right. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is the first time that you guys have all

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Speaker 1: been reunited, well not all, because obviously Chris and Hayden

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Speaker 1: are all in the same room again, Like what was

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Speaker 1: that vibe? Like that vibe was just a positive energy,

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Speaker 1: was one of just like accomplishment when you know, we

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Speaker 1: all tried to find love. It didn't happen, but we

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Speaker 1: found friendship and memories and experiences that we did grow from.

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Speaker 1: And we're going to continue to be the people that

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Speaker 1: you saw us as and maybe continue on with the

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Speaker 1: fascination if it so leads us down that path. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're stuck with us. I'm sorry, whether or not this world.

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Speaker 1: That's so interesting though, that you say that, just because

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Speaker 1: I think people who go into mental or even women

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Speaker 1: tal all, it's not always like a positive vibe. You know.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of drama that sometimes unfools, right, like

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Speaker 1: drama between the contestants, some that tends or a lot

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Speaker 1: a lot all the ways too much, right, But it's

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Speaker 1: but to like go into it and have that sense

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Speaker 1: of accomplishment afterwards, it's not necessarily a normal thing. Do

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Speaker 1: you feel like you were able to say everything that

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Speaker 1: you wanted to? Yeah, I definitely felt like I had

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Speaker 1: the platform to speak from my heart and to address

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Speaker 1: the issues that happened in the house that people may

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Speaker 1: not have known, you know, just like saying like I

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Speaker 1: wasn't a part of the first Crisp part and that,

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Speaker 1: you know, I had a reaction to Hayden, and I

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Speaker 1: I talked to him, you know, onside conversations about how

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Speaker 1: address it to the crowd it felt freeing. And then

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Speaker 1: as well as being able to reminisce with Gabby over

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Speaker 1: our time and let her know that I supported a

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Speaker 1: decision even though it hurt, like I still valued our

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Speaker 1: relationship and I grew from it. So that was very

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Speaker 1: to do that tonight. I feel like you can finally

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Speaker 1: I feel like the consensus for people coming in, like

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Speaker 1: because you never know what's gonna like be brought up

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Speaker 1: like every time, especially last Women until All, we did

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Speaker 1: the consensus was that they were like, we're so happy

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Speaker 1: we did it. We're so happy it's over. But now

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Speaker 1: we can just like put this behind us and move

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Speaker 1: next chapter. Yeah, it's like closure with an X. Like

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Speaker 1: one to your relationship with Gabby and then fast forward

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Speaker 1: So how in that moment when they're kind of coming

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that they were able to see me for

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Speaker 1: glad that they were able to recognize it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: as everybody's watching, as you're watching, you might think that

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Speaker 1: you have a piece of closure, and then something else

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like, with everything that has happened, are

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Speaker 1: believe who you are in your character. Yeah, it's always

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Speaker 1: good to be validated by the people around you have

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that the people who

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Speaker 1: I've had my heartbroken on it. We all have seen breakups. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: yours and Gabby's actually moved me to slight tears. I

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Speaker 1: like you could see Gabby's real emotion, like with that

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Speaker 1: just not there yet, like not ready to be a

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I don't ever know where to begin,

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Speaker 1: like rewatching it back, because that's the first time. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that was absolutely one of the hardest breakups I've had

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Speaker 1: still appreciate this for what it was, and I still

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Speaker 1: I love the growth that I had going through that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it flows through the screen. It was not a dry eye.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, it was so quiet as we were watching.

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Speaker 1: All right, but I can take it away for a

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Speaker 1: really long time. This is the number one thing that

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's not very often that we see

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Speaker 1: a good green Describe the fit for all of our listeners.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so I have a peak lapel green suit.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like a tweet, but not quite. It's like

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Speaker 1: It's shaped as an earring, but it's a pearl to accident,

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Speaker 1: you know, the pearl necklace that I well, we don't

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Speaker 1: just have to say we leave this. We named your

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Speaker 1: suit the Martini suit because it's like a jury mart

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Speaker 1: not dirty, but like an olive Martini like that, and

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Speaker 1: we love olives and Martini's. So yeah, we love the suit.

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Speaker 1: And you can bring the pearls back in in a

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Speaker 1: classier way, so we're good, straight, dad. It looks wonderful.

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Speaker 1: You did great, you were awesome. You're doing great, sweetie,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Here we go. I feel like

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Speaker 1: we don't even need an intro for this one. We

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Speaker 1: no time, how to say, I feel like a slop

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Speaker 1: kebab over here. Gabby is in her diamond encrusted dress

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Speaker 1: with her diamond laser on. My pants are unbuttoned, same

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Speaker 1: here dress. Yeah, okay, we're wasting time. Were enough people all?

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Speaker 1: So we need more undressing? Yeah? Actually, speaking of your dress,

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Speaker 1: to tell us about it, I'm obsessed. I don't know

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Speaker 1: anything about it. It's lovely racket. The lizard liquor. Well,

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Speaker 1: I was like, I think she has an animal on

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Speaker 1: her dress. Feel like, I think it's a crocodile. It's

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Speaker 1: a dragon, a lizard, a crocodile, whatever style. I'm also

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Tonight. Yeah, coming into tonight, mente, all,

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Speaker 1: the host here here, Okay, we have one question. We

429
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Speaker 1: have one question or maybe I do OK when you

430
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Speaker 1: were younger, you know when you're you know when you're okay?

431
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: Do you know when you know? When you're young, you've

432
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 1: seen seen the movies, but like you know, you you

433
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 1: start to have feelings you practice like kissing a teddy

434
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 1: bear or a pillow or you're a kid, or maybe

435
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: like an orange. Have you ever done that? Uh? No,

436
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: you never? You need to are y'all? It seems embarrassing.

437
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: It seems embarrassing, but we've all done it. Honestly, we've

438
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: all done I think like I can remember what's funny

439
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 1: because like I just had an awkward kiss at the

440
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: age of thirty one. But I was like gonna say

441
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: I can remember my first like awkward kiss with someone

442
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: or my first kiss, I should say, But now I'm

443
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: thinking I was, like that was really good too, So

444
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 1: like was it or was that your first kiss you

445
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 1: just saw? I'm just replaying this and like you felt

446
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: so awkward the moment were you like picked up her

447
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: and kissed her hand. I was like, oh, he's nervous

448
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: right now. Honestly, like I think when I picked up

449
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: her hand, it was just like you know, I'll just

450
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,959
Speaker 1: back up in real time and in real time when

451
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: I when I saw it, I was looking at like

452
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: my body was just sing my leg was up. She

453
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 1: was there. I'm gonna be transparent with y'all. I wasn't

454
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: going for like full makeout. I think your hand was

455
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: actually like your own hands were on your leg, not hers.

456
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: I was like going were like the soft gentle and

457
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: then ease into kind of a gradual kid being respectful

458
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,479
Speaker 1: and no, I actually love that we have you here.

459
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: I just like love shooting the show with people. And

460
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: when we were watching the pack, I was like, this

461
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: is what we have to ask for the record. I

462
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: am a good kisser. Gabby and I had an awkward kiss.

463
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: We shared many kisses, but you guys caught the first one.

464
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: It's okay, though, because I still got the rose and

465
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 1: she said I was a good kisser. I am be

466
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: glad of line. We could talk about practicing kisses for

467
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 1: far too long, but actions better back it up in

468
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: the future. Mario, thank you for joining us. I'm glad

469
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: we've heard it from you here first. Yes, thank you.

470
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: You smell great, looks a little less great, but that's

471
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,959
Speaker 1: only I'm a great No, I'm just I'm looking at

472
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: these flecks of marinara sauce like dangling from your chin hair.

473
00:23:55,240 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: So I no, I've noticed smelt too like guys like Costa. Yeah,

474
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: we love this a little bit. I'm just gonna stand

475
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: and it is gonna that is strong. Okay, Meatball, allright,

476
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: we gotta get into this. We have the number one question. Okay,

477
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: what made you want to tack tackle Billy Eichner? And

478
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: how do you think he felt about it? And do

479
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: you regret it? Okay? I was just going in for

480
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: the hug and there was meatball sauce on the floor

481
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: and I slipped and we went down down that that's

482
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: how it happened. I did offer him and tied to

483
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: go pen and he declined, yes, he's gotta get on

484
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: a flight. You probably need one too many. How many washes,

485
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: how many shampoo conditions, rinse and repeats are you gonna

486
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: to do to get out of your hair? It's in

487
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 1: your eyebrows, It is in your in your eyebrows. You're

488
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: gonna be finding sauce for shirt. Okay, So overall, was

489
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: it worth it? It was? How did you feel about

490
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: getting basically naked once again on national television stop the

491
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: first time? That happened, and I love. I was like,

492
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 1: as long as he keeps the socks on, please keep

493
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: the socks on, sir, you want me to keep the

494
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: socks on. Yes, socks and sauce, baby, I have to say. So,

495
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: we were in the press room watching it all live,

496
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: and in the press room people are cheering and usually

497
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,959
Speaker 1: it's dead ass quiet. People are chanting your name, they

498
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: are clappy. They are cheering for you as you take

499
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: your jacket off, and though all of the guys are

500
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: helping you. Yeah, I was stripping down teamwork. I stripped

501
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: down in my boxer, was taking all my clothes off.

502
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: He was he was not only that. I was like,

503
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: they were very fast at it, truly were good at that.

504
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: I don't even know where I was going with that question,

505
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: but I just wanted to. I wanted to set the

506
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: scene for you in the press. But then the crowd

507
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: was like really into that. Everyone was channing Meatball. I'm

508
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: going to go to bed with hearing this in my mind.

509
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: I mean, this is not the last time he does this.

510
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: But okay, so every time he speaks, every time he speaks,

511
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: I promise I'm normally really gonna eye contact. But Okay, okay,

512
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: so beset the record straight. Yeah, that tackle was not scripted.

513
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: That was not planned. No not. Do you think any

514
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: of it was scripted? I hope not. I hope it's

515
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: not coming from my ass. Okay, we do have to

516
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: ask a couple of serious questions. We can't just talk

517
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: about sass me balls. As much as I love food,

518
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. Um Okay, Roby came at you

519
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: guns a blazing tonight. How was that? I don't know,

520
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm asking me. It was coming after me violent. Why

521
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: is the dyed hair? I didn't know who it was

522
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: at first. I was like, Oh, they brought in somebody.

523
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: I don't mind it. You know, it's more about what's

524
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: inside that counts, you know. Okay, Yeah, why are we

525
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: worried about hair? This man was eating nails? Yeah yeah,

526
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: but okay, I get so I gonna track to the question.

527
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: He did come up to you, well, not up to you,

528
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: but he called you out and basically said to man

529
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: up about rejecting Rachel's rose. What was going through your

530
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: mind in that moment, like when not even a lot

531
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: of drama, but like this bit of drama around you

532
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: was unfolding. Yeah, I mean, I thought I explained myself

533
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,479
Speaker 1: pretty well. Like early on, I was pretty confused. Um,

534
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: you know, all the other guys were as well. I

535
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: barely got time with both of them, and when I

536
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: did get time, it was it was like the dinner

537
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: thing meat balls. Yeah, and so I didn't know which

538
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: way to lean um so, and then the cocktail party

539
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: got canceled, so we went right in the rose ceremony.

540
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: And then they were intentional the roles they were handed out.

541
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: So when Rachel'll call my name, I wasn't expected I

542
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: respecting a rose from Gabby like I thought. If I

543
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: was gonna rose, it was from Gabby, and I kind

544
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: of freaked out in the moment. I denied it and

545
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: immediately regretted it. And I got to go back and

546
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: I have a great conversation with her and tell her

547
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: how I was feeling, and she gave me a shot,

548
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: and um, I really appreciate that and me lasted no offense,

549
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: but longer than expected. Yeah, I was still weak five Yeah,

550
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: and then she called her she called me her savior tonight.

551
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: Did you hear that? Yeah? I think I was too

552
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: busy by the Wow, that's a big deal. Okay, say savior.

553
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: I'll take it on that note. I feel like we

554
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: could talk to you forever. I do actually want to

555
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: talk about meatballs at some point. I don't think the

556
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: podcast is the time, were the place for that. Well,

557
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: you guys have a great, great podcast, but thank you. Yeah,

558
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: it's great. Hopefull saying that because people get nervous when

559
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: they come on the podcast. Now all the guys talk

560
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: back behind us and they're like, they get nervous with us,

561
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: So no as they should. Damn right though, right right, yeah,

562
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: you guys zoom. This is very we only when people

563
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: put my Anair sauce on their bodies. That's why we

564
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: call you in um. I would love to do it

565
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: again live like only if you are dressing the same

566
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: unpit well our sauce. You sare has been fun for

567
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: having me, Well we have a familiar face here with us. Well,

568
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: it's good to see you again. It's good to be here.

569
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: I promote your guys' podcast on my podcast. And so

570
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 1: do you have to do the ads for us? Yeah? Okay,

571
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: I don't have to. I do it because I love

572
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: you guys, and you pay me to do it, which

573
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: is also helps. That was only twenty dollars in wine,

574
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: in wine and hugs. Yeah, okay. When I first saw

575
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: you tonight, I told you you had this great glow. Yeah.

576
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's still from Paradise, right, I think so

577
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: that my my tan is lasted. It's been I've been

578
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: back for like I guess, like a month. But yeah,

579
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: it's uh when you live in Mexico for a month.

580
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: I said, like, it's like a terrible thing. You don't

581
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: even know. I just sat on the beach, Nacho. You

582
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: do deal with a lot of I do, and a

583
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: lot of UV rays and so that that's when my

584
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: skin is this beautiful chestnut cutter. Um. So, no, no

585
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: glowing spray tan before the wedding. No, no, maybe I

586
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: don't know. Wellesy with a little spray tan action, I

587
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: don't know they'll problem with spray tans. I feel like

588
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: you smell weird. You do, oh yeah, but only for

589
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, and your palms look weird and you

590
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: don't want it when you get in bed, you don't.

591
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't gotten a spray tan, but you see,

592
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: I do, I do and everything, and you know, on

593
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: the wedding day, like your hands are very present. Yeah, Okay,

594
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: maybe do it a couple days before, but I want

595
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: to ask you, speaking of the Paradise flow, we saw

596
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: well some of the cast members that were in Paradise

597
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: this year, and then the teaser, Yeah, what can you

598
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: tell us about Paradise without giving too much away of

599
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: like what we can all expect. Well, I mean, because

600
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: Paradise is such a popular show in VAT Nation, but

601
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: also for ABC, they asked for more episodes, so you know,

602
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: the what is what is it? Um? The mother of

603
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: invention is like ingenuity, and like we had to switch

604
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: things up, we had to like try some new things.

605
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: So in that teaser, I think there's this like one

606
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: scene where like everyone says like fuck you Jesse Palmer,

607
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: which is hilarious to me, sweet guy in the world.

608
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 1: It's like yelling at it like a puppy. But I

609
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: think that's in reference to like kind of the things

610
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: that we switched up this year. And from my vantage point,

611
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: it was hilarious and wonderful and I loved it. I

612
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: had to make a lot more like like sad bastard

613
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: margharitas than I have in the past. Yeah, but uh,

614
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: and I don't think the people on the beach love

615
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: what was happening so much? But from Jesse and Ice perspective,

616
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: it was great. And I think from like Batch Nations perspective,

617
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: they're gonna love it like entertaining. It's so like the

618
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: craziness that ensues from like some of the new antics

619
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: that we pull, um is pretty great. And also the

620
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: other thing is I think people forget how many like

621
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: amazing meaningful, meaningful relationships have come out of Paradise. Um,

622
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: Like you, I'm laughing because he just said antics and

623
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: then he goes into meaningful relationships in the same sentence. Yeah,

624
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: I can pivot, like absolutely, but truly there are things

625
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,239
Speaker 1: that come from it. Yeah, And like the success rate

626
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: of Paradise is amazing, and a lot of people like

627
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: go on this journey with us and like kind of

628
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: fall in love with these relationships. And I think that

629
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: will be fun this season. I think you saw like

630
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of it. It's like people from the

631
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: past get to come back to Paradise and um, you

632
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: know kind of relive that fun. Uh. And I think

633
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: that the fans are really going to love that as well. Okay,

634
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: so we'll see some familiar faces. The consensus that I

635
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: got from the forecast members that were there was that

636
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: it's going to be shocking. I think every time they

637
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: were asked answering a question, they were like, I was shocked,

638
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: it was shocking, and I was like, and then Andrew,

639
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, it is hot. I do want to

640
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: ask you this because I saw you last year on

641
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: the Beaches of Paradise. It helped me fall in love,

642
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: even though I did break up with Thomas for a

643
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: hot second. I think I told you not to do that,

644
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: but hey, we talked to but hey, look up, you

645
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: know already married and I'm engaged. But I want to

646
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: ask you overall, what has been your favorite season of Paradise.

647
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,479
Speaker 1: Oh that's a tough one. Um, let me help you out. Seven.

648
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: Is that what season you were on? That was a

649
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: good one. It was so good. I mean, like you're

650
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: you fought it the entire time, which is really fun.

651
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: And I remember being like, becks, like you need to

652
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: stop fighting, like just enjoy it, Like, uh, that was great,

653
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: Like the whole ivan saw it was kind of crazy. Wow. Yeah, okay,

654
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: so that was pretty great. There was also Rebecca, but

655
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: because you can't, you can't, you can was way more

656
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: favorite piece. Well, my favorite piece of Paradise ever was

657
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: season four Paradise, when like we shut down for like

658
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: the entire season because of craziness that was ensuing. So

659
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: they made me do pup a treat for like half

660
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: the time. A wedding happened, right, didn't. Yeah there was

661
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: a wedding there, but yeah it was Evan and Carly's

662
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: wedding and I so I just like like acted out

663
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: scenes with puppets, and I to this day think it

664
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: was the greatest television I've ever made, and I wish

665
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: they would bring that back. Maybe it'll come back this season. Okay,

666
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: so wells, congratulations because you are getting married, yes, very shortly, hopefully,

667
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: fingers crossed. It's all gonna go wi um. It's gonna

668
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: be a dirty floral theme of all he's given me. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

669
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: it's gonna be beautiful. I'm so happy for you and Sarah. Yeah,

670
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: I can't wait. It's gonna be really fun to bring

671
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: all these weird people from different parts of our lives

672
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: into one room and make them all be cordial with

673
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: one another. Um. And then also it's a weird thing.

674
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: It's really wonderful. I got to experience a little bit

675
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: on the Bachelor party of people that you love so

676
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: much coming to celebrate you and your love and like

677
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: being champions for you. Um. It's a weird feeling as

678
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: someone who kind of shies away from I don't like

679
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: a whole lot of it. That sounds like he doesn't

680
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: any attention. He does podcast everything. But you know what

681
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Yeah, I feel weird about that. And it

682
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: is a really nice thing to have people that like

683
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: you love um, and that means something do you, um,

684
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: be happy for like the love that you found. And

685
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about that. We'll soak in that love.

686
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: We're so happy for you. Everybody grab glass cheers Sarah. Well,

687
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: we've had you on the podcast. We've had on the

688
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: podcast a couple of times, and it's like, I feel like, yeah,

689
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: this is the first time I can like smell you

690
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: know what your perfu spoke. You just keep talking about smelling.

691
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: I mean, such a person though, Hey we're smelling. I

692
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: remember people. I'm obsessed. It's my favorite part. Um who

693
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: started who? Yeah, the arn't smelling who started it. We

694
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: would always like smell my art, check my teeth, do

695
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: my hair, like if we were all over each other. Yeah,

696
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: the whole time. So I will say, watching all the

697
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: art pit smelling back as weird as it is, I

698
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: looked at Michelle and I was like, I wish I

699
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: had somebody to go through this journey with me, like,

700
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: and it was so funny because we were talking to

701
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: Wells back stag as we're watching all. He's like, no,

702
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,959
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't want anyone to like take my time

703
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: with the guys, and like, you only have such a

704
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: small handful of men to meat that you'll actually click with.

705
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: And I was like, you don't get it. You haven't

706
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: like been the lead, like having somebody with you. And

707
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: the more I watch you and Gaby together, I think

708
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: it's so special, Like I now I'm kind of having

709
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: foam all. I'm like, shit, can we redo our seasons together?

710
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: And we get to do like all of our press

711
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: and stuff together and we just have so much fun.

712
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: And I think it's so easy for people to pick

713
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: us apart and be like, oh, they deserve their own season.

714
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, I wouldn't ever want one and be such

715
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: a different vibe to you, Like would be so different,

716
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: you know when you live in something like this that's

717
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: now your experience. It's you and Gabby doing this journey

718
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: together and I hate to say journey, but it is.

719
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: And like, yeah, if you were to ever redo it,

720
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: and not to say that you ever would, but like

721
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: you wouldn't even want to never because it couldn't be

722
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: what it was, you know, No, I truly wouldn't. And

723
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: I really feel like the ultimate takeaway from this, even

724
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: when we're going through hard times like the Logan thing,

725
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: I was able to watch it back and like me

726
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: and Gabby going through this together and supporting each other

727
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: and having each other's backs, Like that's the ultimate takeaway.

728
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: And I think it's so easy for people to take

729
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: the negative, but there's so much positive. Oh man, that

730
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: was anomous to be with each other and that was

731
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: like the cool thing. It's such a nerve wrecking situation too.

732
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: It's just like when you can actually just relax as

733
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: much as you can, definitely as much as you can

734
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: on the season. It really is on one hour of

735
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: sleeve seventeen like Champagne, I do not miss that. Oh

736
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: I'll get ate only eight hours of sleep now and

737
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, you would always nap like she'd being full

738
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: makeup just snapping while they're doing my liner and everything,

739
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, it adds up, it does. I always

740
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: wanted to do my makeup sleeping, and then she just

741
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: never did because I was too anxious all the time.

742
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: But I feel like it's something I have to live through.

743
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: At some point. One time, I actually fell as I've

744
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: never fallen asleep standing up. I fell asleep in the chair.

745
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: In the chair, I'm like, oh my god, what is

746
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: my life? Well, And that's the thing, like people don't

747
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: realize there's like they see snippets of what you and

748
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: Gabby go through, you know, for two hours every Monday night,

749
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: Like there's so much that you guys are put through,

750
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: like on your body, on your mind, everything. What was

751
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: like the hardest part of being one of the leads

752
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: and then your favorite part? Honestly, I feel like the

753
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: hardest part is just having so many connections in these

754
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: great group of guys. You have to me these really

755
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: hard decisions so quickly, And I think it's so easy

756
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: for people to look at what we do and pick

757
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: our decisions apart or say we made the wrong decision.

758
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: But you really just have to trust yourself through it all.

759
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: And you guys know more than anything. These relationships are

760
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: happening so quickly and you get so limited time, so ultimately,

761
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: I think that was the hardest part, But I mean

762
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: the greatest part was just I feel like we had

763
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: such a great group of men who really put us first,

764
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: and I really couldn't be happier with the way it

765
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: all turned out good and having their group, having their

766
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: group of men and coming into tonight and knowing that

767
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 1: you'd be able to see them again all your feelings,

768
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: Like I was freaking out my trailer. I was remember

769
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm like I almost paid my pants walking out when

770
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 1: I came out to the Mental Life through I remember

771
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: watching yours and I was like, all your men were

772
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: like bowing down, and I love that, but I got

773
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: our guys are just so supportive as well. I was

774
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: not expecting the outpour of support consistently, and they've always

775
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: been so amazing, so it was really great. It was

776
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: hard to see some obviously, but amazing. Was there one

777
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: person coming into tonight that you were either looking forward

778
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: to seeing or you're not looking forward to seeing her interacting? Yeah,

779
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: I think the person tonight that I was most nervous

780
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: to see and excited was Tyler. I just watched our

781
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: breakup and it was hard to live, but it's harder

782
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: to watch back and you're in that moment and reliving it.

783
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: And he's just such an incredible guy. And to sit

784
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: down with him when we were able to have a

785
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: conversation and to still have him be so amazing and

786
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: so supportive. I just I feel so lucky to have

787
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: known him, and I really just hope he gets all

788
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: the love and happiness in the world. Maybe I'm Paradise,

789
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: who knows. But he's just like, Okay, well, I know

790
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: we only had one more question, but I'm gonna ask

791
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: one more because I need you to tell us all

792
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: about your look. It's stunning. When you walked out again,

793
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: we were sitting in the press room and we're all like,

794
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: she is slain, a little like nude Kardashian look through.

795
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: I guess people, I think I'm more of a conservative dresser.

796
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: And this season, people, have you know, been able to

797
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: see that. I mean, Carrie, like, what if we do

798
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: a sea through? Momm Yes, it looks so good. You

799
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: look stunning, Carrie Fatman Special. I love it. You look

800
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: great from the jewelry to the shoes. It's so lovely,

801
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: so amazing. Thank you guys for having me. Thank you.

802
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: I don't want you to leave either people. Yeah, no

803
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: we will. We don't need the other guys. Keep the

804
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: girls on next up, but we have Tyler. You drew

805
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 1: some tears tonight, No, well from the audience from watching

806
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: that sad goodbye It really was, though. How are you

807
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: feeling after watching it all replay once again? Um? You know,

808
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: watching the season back definitely got closure, like seeing where

809
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 1: Rachel was in a relationship with the other guys and

810
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: understanding why ultimately what had happened happened. And there's not

811
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: a thing I would have changed, you know. I went

812
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: in with it with a full heart, like ready to

813
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: put my whole self out there for somebody. And I

814
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,479
Speaker 1: was ready for a relationship. And I met an amazing woman,

815
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: had great experiences with her. Watching it ends, watching the

816
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: rise in the fall of my relationship, you know, you

817
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: definitely bring up like old emotions and yeah, it was.

818
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: It was definitely tough, but you know, something that I

819
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: was prepared for. And um, you know, like I said,

820
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: there's just nothing that I would change about it. So

821
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: everything worked out the way that it was supposed to.

822
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: Good I want to ask you because you admitted something

823
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: tonight and that's the fact that you slid into Rachel's

824
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: d MS. Take us back, like, I mean the timeline here,

825
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: Wait did that happen? And do you remember what you said? Yes?

826
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: So what had happened? Was the only season that I watched,

827
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 1: like every single episode was Clayton's season, and I remember

828
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: so sorry. The first episode, I remember seeing Rachel guy

829
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: at Lemo and I was just like this girls beautiful. Wow. Um.

830
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: The next episode came on and I was drinking a lot.

831
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: I was absolutely hammered, and I was just like why

832
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: not just oh like episode two shots fired? Why not?

833
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: And I said, Hey, things don't work out with Clayton

834
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: and you ever end up as a Bacherette, sign me

835
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: up because I literally I think you're literally gorgeous. Shut up? Yeah,

836
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: the producers that had happened. And then a week later,

837
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: I get a random call from LA and they said, hey, like,

838
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: we're casting producers from the Bachelrette. Would you be interested

839
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: in the show? And I'm like no, seriously, like who

840
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: is this? And one of my friend's girlfriend had nominated

841
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: me for the show, and I got a call like

842
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: randomly out of nowhere. I had nothing to do with

843
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: like Rachel pushing that message to anybody else. She didn't

844
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: even know she was gonna be boucher at that point

845
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 1: when he ended her at that point. Yeah, oh wow, okay,

846
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: oh wait did she just put you on red? So

847
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't I didn't see because we weren't friends, so

848
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: you can't see read or not, um, so I don't know. Well,

849
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: how wow you talked about this on the show, right,

850
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, can you imagine the first time this comes out?

851
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: I mean, this is kind of like psychopath right down now,

852
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: Like when I went on, Like, you know, obviously I

853
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: want to have an open mind because you know, you

854
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: see somebody on a show, right and you're hoping that

855
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: they're like the way that they were on the show.

856
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: So I just went in going like all right, we like,

857
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. You know, obviously I think

858
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: this girl's gorgeous. You know, is there a personality the

859
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: exact same person that I saw? And she was everything

860
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: and more and just like getting to know her even more,

861
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: like getting to know like all the amazing qualities about her.

862
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: It was just like wow, Like not only did I

863
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: have a crush, on her report. But now my crush

864
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: is like even more just because I actually got to

865
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: know her and she was just everything you could ask

866
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: for in somebody. I'm trying to think like if I

867
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: was in your position and say I did that like

868
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: something into some random person's dams, like shooting my shot,

869
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: but like a far shot. The fact that that all

870
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: came to fruition. Did you just feel like you were

871
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: living in a dream while filming? Yeah, I walked up

872
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: Limo was looking out and like I saw Gabby and Rachel.

873
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh no, She's like this is

874
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: happening right now, and you yeah, the Limo and you

875
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: just black out. You just walk up and I thank

876
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: god they didn't show my entrance when I walked up.

877
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was I did the Uncut Gems thing,

878
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: you know, uncut jobs, TikTok thing, so he woke up.

879
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: It was the whoever the actresses from Uncut Gems with

880
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler, and she had like an interview where she goes,

881
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: I felt like his muse and like I was his

882
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: uncut jomb so at you know what, why not call

883
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: both of the women Uncut Gems. Maybe they'll catch onto it.

884
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: They called on. Thank god, they laugh, they laugh, they

885
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: had a reference. I would have just walked right back

886
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: into because I would have been like, take me home

887
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: in the New Jersey. Okay, you with all the hearing

888
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: all this stuff that happened with Rachel deciding into the DMS,

889
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: this whole entire story, did you feel like it was

890
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: fate at that point? And then you know, when your

891
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 1: journey does come to the end. Was that really hard

892
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 1: to accept? In process? Um, you know, going into the journey,

893
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: you know the accepting part, like I you know what

894
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: you're putting yourself into, Like it's not just you. You know,

895
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: you don't in the real world. You don't date somebody

896
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: who's dating thirty something like guys at the same time.

897
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: So your chances of you ending up with you know,

898
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: the Batchel right at the end of the day or slim,

899
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: and like you just go into it with the mindset

900
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: hopefully it's me. If it's not me, then it's not

901
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: And you know, when everything had happened and ended the

902
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: way that it did, like I just knew because I

903
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: made such good relationships with the guys, like knowing that

904
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: she ultimately was going to end up with somebody, So amazing, like,

905
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: that's all you want for her at the end of

906
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: the day. If it's not you, hopefully it's somebody that

907
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: you know, we'll give her the respect and make her

908
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: feel like the only girl like in the world and

909
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: the rest of the guys. You know, I just knew

910
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: that she had that, so I was okay with it.

911
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: You know, I understood, you know, as things and full

912
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: ti times it's really hard to just accept that. Yeah, yeah,

913
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: I think it's definitely it's definitely tough, but you know,

914
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: it comes down in the mindset that you had, and

915
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: I just knew that. You know, if it's not me,

916
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: it's going to be somebody else, And yeah, she's gonna

917
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: get everything she wants. I have a feeling this isn't

918
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: the last we see of you, mister Tyler. Yeah, see

919
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: me again. I'll be here. I mean, we did see

920
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: a pretty in depth trailer of Paradise today, our little teaser,

921
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: so maybe we will have you on batch her Happy

922
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 1: Hour again. I'm hoping, so, I hope. So that's had

923
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: so much fun. We've had fun too, So thank you

924
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: for entertaining that this past season. Okay, Logan, thank you

925
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: for coming to Bachelor Happy hour. I have to say

926
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 1: them a little bit upset you don't have two chicks

927
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: in your hand. Yeah, you did not come prepared. They

928
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: couldn't make it. I'm actually surprised. I feel like there's

929
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: always like some sort of prop. I mean, we have

930
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: the Mariner ass, but I'm surprised that they didn't bring

931
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: the chicks today. Yeah, I think prop comedy might may

932
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: not have played well on the hot seat. You know,

933
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: maybe hey have to bring them on. You said to

934
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: bring them with you for the interview, and Beck and

935
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: I would have just called them and played with them interview. No, Okay,

936
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: we obviously loved to joke and just give our own ship,

937
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: but realistically, like mindset, now, after mental all is done,

938
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: you've seen the women, you've seen the men. How are

939
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: you feeling? You know what? I feel good? Um, obviously

940
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: there's like a lot of tough questions and there's a

941
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: lot of tension, and I don't I don't blame people

942
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: for having questions. I think if I were in the

943
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: shoes of some of my friends or in the issues

944
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: of the women, I would have questions too. So it

945
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 1: was a relief to be able to kind of express

946
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: where I was coming from and to be able to

947
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to get across the sentiment that like, I'm

948
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: still learning and there were things that I would do differently,

949
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, I came from

950
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: a place of you know, honesty, and I was my

951
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: heart was in the right place. That's what I wanted

952
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: to get across. And you know, I think a couple

953
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: of people saw that. Maybe not everybody, but yeah, I

954
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 1: feel good about today. Yeah. Well, in the grand scheme

955
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: of things in micheline, I've talked about this, like the

956
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: whole switch ru that you did, you know that caused

957
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: quote unquote drama that wasn't even that much drama. Let's

958
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: be honest. I don't think the issue necessarily was like

959
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: this switch, but more so, like the time frame and

960
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: the timing of accepting Rachel's roses for three weeks bring

961
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: us back to like when you were filming, what was

962
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: your mindset? Did you did you just want to make

963
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: sure you knew that you wanted to see how things

964
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: were with Gabby or was it just kind of like

965
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: allotted with I mean, we all know the travel schedule

966
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: or whatever it might be. It's a great, great question. Um,

967
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: you know that first night at the at their mansion

968
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: when I was selected from the speedo competition to go

969
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: hang out with them. Obviously I had time with both

970
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: of them and we both shared, you know, a kiss

971
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: and really good conversation. And I did feel at that

972
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: point like the connection with Gabby like moved me and

973
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: that it was it was palpable, it was heavy to me,

974
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: and it felt strong. But I did have a great

975
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: conversation with Rachel and I did feel attracted to her,

976
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 1: and when she offered me the rose, I thought, maybe

977
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 1: this is a really ship that will take time. Maybe

978
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: there's something here that I haven't quite found. Maybe she

979
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: takes longer to open up, maybe there's a spark that

980
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: all it takes is a date and all of a

981
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: sudden we will see something that's not there yet. And

982
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: you know what, looking back, I should have spoke my

983
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: feelings right then and there when she offered me the rose,

984
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: but I decided, you know what, it's still early. I'm

985
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 1: going to see if maybe this turns into something. Maybe

986
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: my feelings will change, maybe their feelings will change. And

987
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: you just can't think like that in these environments because

988
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: the circumstances changed so quick. And I wasn't able to

989
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: have a one on one conversation with them uninterrupted for

990
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: another two and a half weeks after that, And so, yeah,

991
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: looking back, you know what, after I was offered that rose,

992
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: I would have said, I'm honored and I'm flattered and

993
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: I'm so open to exploring things. But to be honest

994
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: with you, my connection with Gabby felt really moving, and

995
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: I thought I was going to get a rose from her.

996
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: That's what I would have liked to have done. But

997
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 1: obviously that's hindsight, you know. So as you're watching all

998
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: of this back and you're watching their emotions, you're kind

999
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: of rethinking about how you navigated the entire situation. How

1000
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: are you feeling it about speaking with both Gabby and

1001
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: Rachel going into mental all and kind of having to

1002
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: explain that, Yeah, I think I'm on very different in

1003
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: very different places with each of them. They hold a

1004
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: strong friendship, obviously, so there's a level of support that

1005
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: they have for each other. I think the fact that

1006
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 1: Gabby welcomed me in and saw something worth exploring, we're

1007
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: maybe in a little bit of a better place right

1008
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: now than that of me and Rachel. I want Rachel

1009
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: to know how like I see how difficult her journey was,

1010
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: and I hate that I contributed to that difficulty. But

1011
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: she's like so strong and she's gotten through it, and

1012
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: you know, she doesn't need me to keep apologizing. I

1013
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: think she's kind of tired of me talking about it, probably,

1014
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: And I don't I don't blame her, but yeah, certain

1015
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: things just you know, take a little time. I don't.

1016
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: I don't think either of them have harsh feelings towards me,

1017
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: but maybe he's a little tender, you know. Yeah. Well,

1018
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: and so speaking of time, I have a feeling that

1019
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: this is not the last time we see you on

1020
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: our TV screens. We obviously did see a little sprinkling

1021
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: of Paradise and the teaser tonight. Is there anything I

1022
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: don't even like want to give it. I'm just gonna

1023
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: ask us what can we expect from that? Um? I

1024
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: break down the walls a little bit in Paradise, Um

1025
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: I yeah, show a little bit more emotion. I'm kind

1026
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: of like a stow it guy sometimes and okay, break

1027
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: it down a little bit and on the beach, yeah,

1028
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: um yeah, I feel things very deeply over there in Paradise,

1029
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: and sometimes that's a good thing. Sometimes it hurts a

1030
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: little bit. But yeah, I'm excited to watch bag. I mean,

1031
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I mean everyone kept saying it was

1032
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: supposed to be shocking, so I hope it lives up

1033
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: to the hype. But Logan, thank you for joining us.

1034
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: I know that there's probably so much we could have

1035
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: covered and talked about it, n asked you, but obviously

1036
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: time is limited. But again, if we do see you

1037
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: on the screen, I'm sure this is not the last

1038
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: time we'll see you. I'm happy, No, I hope not.

1039
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: That you guys are great. Well, thank you Logan. Oh

1040
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,280
Speaker 1: my gosh, Michelle, this is well, this is the second

1041
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: time we've done this in person together. I'm so glad

1042
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: that we could be in studio and that was fun

1043
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 1: just talking to multiple people switching ended up getting multiple

1044
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: sides of every story. Really, this is your first tell

1045
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: that you've done. Yes, actually, yes, you know that now

1046
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 1: that you say that. It is and it's like the

1047
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 1: first time interviewing other people in person. But it's also

1048
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: such an emotional night because so many things happen with

1049
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 1: mental all or at any of these teels, and it's

1050
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: like you walk it, you go in having these thoughts

1051
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: of what you wanted to talk about, and then you

1052
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: get closer or maybe not closure. So I think there's

1053
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: like a lot of emotions, but it's overall positive all

1054
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: over the place, you I mean. And here's the thing,

1055
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: like we want to talk to everyone about all of

1056
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: the drama, about all of the emotion and feeling and

1057
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: like the end of a lot of relationships, and we

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Speaker 1: But this was so much fun. I'm so glad that

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