WEBVTT - Where's Your Suit?!

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Jetty arm Strong

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<v Speaker 1>and Jettie and he Armstrong and Yetty.

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<v Speaker 2>The President has said that in terms of territories and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>these are things that Zelenski's gonna have to decide on.

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<v Speaker 2>But people that are out there talking what they don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>with all these stupid leaks and things of that nature,

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<v Speaker 2>they all want to just sound important.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know what they're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was Marco Rubio, Secretary of State and the

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<v Speaker 3>National Security Advisor both. He was on a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of talk shows yesterday, and his main themes were, this

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<v Speaker 3>is the very beginning. It's like the opening drive of

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<v Speaker 3>a golf tournament, and you know, we'll go from here.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't come to any conclusions, and then you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have any idea.

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<v Speaker 1>What you talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know what we discussed, You don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>we're discussing, what our plans are.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the leaks are wrong. That was his

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<v Speaker 1>narrative all day long, right, and it's difficult to argue

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<v Speaker 1>with that. As it is. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>us and I include us in that because of the

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<v Speaker 1>enormous stakes here, not just the human you know, lives

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<v Speaker 1>in Ukraine and the children being blown apart and making

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<v Speaker 1>it safe for dictators to gobble up land by force

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<v Speaker 1>in the twenty first century. Blah blah blah. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's there's a lot here. So we're very anxious to

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<v Speaker 1>read tea leaves and want things to go quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>our way, whichever way that is. But often, in fairness,

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<v Speaker 1>there are ups and downs and ins and outs, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it we're not aware of. That's all true.

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<v Speaker 1>But if Trump had said anything one thing on the

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<v Speaker 1>side of.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, you're the evil SOB who started this and you're

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<v Speaker 3>killing civilians, I mean, anything even close to that, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>at any point, Yes, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be easier to believe that it wasn't capitulation. He signed,

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<v Speaker 1>He shows every sign of capitulating to putin having been bullied.

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<v Speaker 1>He's back down, shows every sign of that. Is that true?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know either. I hope that's

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<v Speaker 1>a negotiating thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, uh, I'm gonna take every effort here to

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<v Speaker 3>make this is like non uh damaging's wrong word, but uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I know what you mean. You're just you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna do anything that puts his guard up. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, oh, that's great, interesting, right, great proposal. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>Well think about that. Well, we're gonna play some more clips.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they include any of these include this,

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<v Speaker 3>But Marco kept saying that, kept saying, what about the sanctions?

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<v Speaker 1>What about it? This way? He said, the moment we

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<v Speaker 1>do that.

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<v Speaker 3>The negotiations are over, the moment we hit them hard

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<v Speaker 3>with something, there's still time to do that. But if

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<v Speaker 3>we do that right up front, then we can't get anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>So that that's his argument. I want to I do

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<v Speaker 1>want to say this.

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<v Speaker 3>NBC is reporting that Trump did discuss a NATO like

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<v Speaker 3>security guarantee for Ukraine with Zelensky and European leaders over

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<v Speaker 3>the weekend and that that will be some of the

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<v Speaker 3>topics of the conversation to day, a NATO like security

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<v Speaker 3>like you know here they were signing a document that

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<v Speaker 3>if that, if he could, if Putin comes back into Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 3>we got your back, that would be a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. If I'm Zelensky, I'm like, will this be just

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<v Speaker 1>like the agreement back in the day that said, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>ensure our security if we give up our nuclear arms

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<v Speaker 1>just like that one. Wow. Cool, I would be saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how about you get some guys here, like actually stationed

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<v Speaker 1>guys here, which otherwise and Great Britain among others.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe talking about that today at the Oval Office with

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<v Speaker 3>Trump because they're all going to be there anyway. Here's

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<v Speaker 3>a little more Mark or Rubio on the Sunday shows.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean you know this, well, how how long

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<v Speaker 4>these kind of diplomatic negotiations often President Trump was telling

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<v Speaker 4>European leaders. What was discussed was Putin demanding control of Dunesque,

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<v Speaker 4>a region in the east that his forces do not

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<v Speaker 4>fully hold, and the UK estimates that taking that full

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<v Speaker 4>area could be as long as another four years. Putin

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<v Speaker 4>also is demanding Russian be an official language in Ukraine

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<v Speaker 4>and something regarding Russian Orthodox churches. Did the US accept

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<v Speaker 4>all of what Putin laid out at that table?

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<v Speaker 2>The United States is not in a position to accept

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<v Speaker 2>anything or reject anything, because ultimately it's up to the Ukrainians.

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<v Speaker 2>They're the ones that Russia has to.

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<v Speaker 1>Make peace with.

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<v Speaker 2>President said, it's up to the Ukrainians to make these conditions. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>there were some concepts and ideas discussed that we know

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<v Speaker 2>the Ukrainians can be very supportive of in that meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's we're not going to negotiate this

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<v Speaker 2>in the media. I understand that everybody wants to know

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<v Speaker 2>what happened. But ultimately there are things that were discussed

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<v Speaker 2>as part of this meeting that are potentials for breakthroughs,

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<v Speaker 2>that are potentials for progress. We'll be discussing that more

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<v Speaker 2>in depth tomorrow with our European allies, with the Ukrainians

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<v Speaker 2>that are coming over. We'll be just discussing all of

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<v Speaker 2>these things because ultimately we do need to find areas

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<v Speaker 2>where we're making progress and try to begin to narrow

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<v Speaker 2>the gap between the two sides.

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<v Speaker 1>That's either true or it's not right right. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>it is. Yeah, I suspect it is. Whether you know

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<v Speaker 1>the bulk of it is at all acceptable to the

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<v Speaker 1>Ukrainian people is the big question mark. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean to be cavalier from a comfortable radio studio,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are times in life where you have to

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<v Speaker 1>fight till you can't fight anymore. That's why the boxer

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<v Speaker 1>just keeps getting up and getting knocked down again because

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks I'm not gonna stop fighting till I'm defeated,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it's looking very bad. And there are plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of people in Ukraine who think, no, we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to just give up to quote unquote save lives and

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<v Speaker 1>be conquered by Putin. No, we're going to keep fighting

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<v Speaker 1>even if we've got to keep fighting until we're defeated. Otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>how do we live with ourselves? What do we tell

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<v Speaker 1>our children? And we'll just have to see how all

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<v Speaker 1>that plays out. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't like the way Friday looked, But Marco Mark

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<v Speaker 3>what's her name? Margaret Brennan's question there? Did you just

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<v Speaker 3>give on everything? What are you basing that on? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>what are you.

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<v Speaker 1>Basing that on? She is an obnoxious horror. Uh. The

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<v Speaker 1>shininess of her legs only you know, rivaled by the

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<v Speaker 1>darkness of her soul. I hate to fall into the

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<v Speaker 1>truck something.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate to fall into the trap that everybody does

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<v Speaker 3>of playing the most spicy clip, even though it's not

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<v Speaker 3>the most important. But this questioning about why the European

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<v Speaker 3>leaders are coming to the White House today. They got

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<v Speaker 3>into that conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>President Trump told Fox News his advice to President Zelensky

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<v Speaker 4>is make a deal. Russia's a very big power, and

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<v Speaker 4>they're not. You know, there is concern from the Europeans

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<v Speaker 4>that President Zelensky is going to be bullied into signing

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<v Speaker 4>something away. That's why you have these European leaders coming

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<v Speaker 4>as back up tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you No, It isn't that's that's not true. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's not why why that's not true. They're not coming

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<v Speaker 2>here tomorrow to keep Zelensky from being bullied.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not very old. They're coming here tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>The television cameras where President Zalynsky.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't how many meetings you?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, no, I know, And I was just up the

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of with Vladimir Putin where red carpet rules.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had more meetings we've had We've had We've had

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<v Speaker 2>one meeting with Putin and like a dozen meetings with Zelenski.

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<v Speaker 2>So that but that's not true. They're not coming here tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>It keeps Zelensky from being bullied. They're coming here tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>because we've been working with the Europeans. We talked to

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<v Speaker 2>them last week. There were meetings in the UK over

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<v Speaker 2>the follow the previous weekend, and they say.

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<v Speaker 1>As early as Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>But you said that they're coming here tomorrow to keep

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<v Speaker 2>Zelensky from being bullied.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not coming here tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>This is such a stupid media narrative that they're coming

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<v Speaker 2>here tomorrow because the Trump is going to bully Zelensky

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<v Speaker 2>into a bad deal. We've been working with these people

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<v Speaker 2>for weeks, for weeks on this stuff. They're coming here

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow because they chose to come here tomorrow. We invited

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<v Speaker 2>them to come. We invited them to come, The President

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<v Speaker 2>invited them to come.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're one hundred percent here to keep Zelensky

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<v Speaker 1>from getting bullied and or steamrolled. Yeah, although you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to put it a little more diplomatically,

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<v Speaker 1>they're there to represent the European point of view. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and interests which are more acute, more immediate.

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<v Speaker 3>Than ours is a nation. Yeah, it's not the only

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<v Speaker 3>reason they're here, sure, but it's part of it. It'd

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<v Speaker 3>be pretty hard to put together a deal that didn't

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<v Speaker 3>include the European leaders because we're not putting boots on

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<v Speaker 3>the ground. But Britain and Germany for instance, have talked

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<v Speaker 3>about it. Uh see, he can't make those decisions without

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<v Speaker 3>them in the room. Trump's meeting one on one with Zelensky,

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<v Speaker 3>Will Jade Vance and Trump are meeting with Zelensky, where's

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<v Speaker 3>your suit?

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<v Speaker 1>And then they're meeting with the European leaders later. Right, God,

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<v Speaker 1>dang it.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just so crazy today. I have no idea how

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to go. So Trump did, I've got we

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<v Speaker 3>probably have the clip. He said over the weekend that president,

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<v Speaker 3>she said told him. She told Trump, according to Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>that he would not invade Taiwan as long as Trump

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<v Speaker 3>was president, and Trump said.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know about that, but that's what he

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<v Speaker 1>told me. It's because they got a five year timetable.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I understand the United States running dogs of

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<v Speaker 1>capitalist system, you're termed out. So yeah, we got a

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<v Speaker 1>five year planned You're out in three years. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about it. I mean, it might be as

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<v Speaker 1>simple as that. I mean, Trump wants to portray it

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<v Speaker 1>as he doesn't dare because I'm such a hard ass. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just they're just not ready. They're getting their ducks

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<v Speaker 1>in a row. The Giant to militarize drone ducks. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so a lot of the world like myself.

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<v Speaker 3>Scheduled their day on Friday around that press conference because

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to see that. Yeah, and when it actually

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<v Speaker 3>was happening, I thought they skipped the lunch. Okay, what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>They skipped the lunch below, the lunch has been canceled.

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<v Speaker 3>They're coming out to talk. Putin comes out and gives

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<v Speaker 3>a rambling, weird speech about a bunch of different stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump talks for like twice, Trump's ass to a large extent,

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<v Speaker 1>kissing Trump's asking, but how about that stuff from Putin

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<v Speaker 1>saying the uh, you know, and I think you won

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty election and this war wouldn't have happened

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<v Speaker 1>if you had been president. I mean, what is that?

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<v Speaker 1>And then Trump with it, going on and on about

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<v Speaker 1>the Russia Russia Russia hoax. I don't know. It was. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody was excited about it. We all were watching it.

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<v Speaker 1>We were trading texts and stuff like that. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>it had been a nothing burger. It was an aluminum

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<v Speaker 1>foil and shards of glassburger. A nothing burger would have

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<v Speaker 1>been way better. But again, it might be a step

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<v Speaker 1>in the road towards something that's about as good as

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<v Speaker 1>it can get. I don't know. I was horrified by it,

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<v Speaker 1>sickened by it, you know. I yeah, I could not

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<v Speaker 1>have been more unhappy with the ass kissing of and

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<v Speaker 1>Putin and the utter refusal to condemn him. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the proof is in the pudding. The process is underway.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the cases afoot and the results are what matter.

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<v Speaker 1>And Trump has some weird methods.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the results are what's matter and we should judge

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<v Speaker 3>it by that at the end. But play sixty seven

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<v Speaker 3>for me, because this is a point Rubyo is making

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<v Speaker 3>over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>You talk about the intensifying strikes on the Russian side, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean their full time war machine.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>The Russian economy has basically been turned into a full

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<v Speaker 2>time wartime economy. They have a lot of people. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a big country. It's not just large geographically, it has

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<v Speaker 2>huge populations. It continues to turn through people. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they lost any thousand Russian soldiers were killed last month

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<v Speaker 2>in July in this war. That just tells you the

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<v Speaker 2>price they're willing to pay. Not saying any of this

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<v Speaker 2>is admirable, I'm saying that this is the reality of

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<v Speaker 2>the war. That we're facing. It's become attrition. In some ways.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a meat grinder and they just have more meat

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<v Speaker 2>to grind.

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<v Speaker 1>So in that sub trust, that is some really good realism.

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<v Speaker 1>Well right, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump saying to Zelensky, look, they're a big country.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean again, that's not you might not like it,

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<v Speaker 3>you might wish were true, it might be might suck

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<v Speaker 3>to have to say those words, but they are willing

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<v Speaker 3>to feed people into a meat grinder. They got tons

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<v Speaker 3>of people. They're bigger than you, got more meat. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so what do you do with that?

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<v Speaker 1>I think Zelensky's response would be he's an evil doer.

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<v Speaker 1>That's upsetting all of the norms you've said are important.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you help us more? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>So that is the other said, that's something that Marko

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<v Speaker 3>Rubia didn't get into yesterday, and I don't think he

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<v Speaker 3>was pushed well on. Well, yeah, they're a little country,

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<v Speaker 3>but if they were backed up by native and or

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<v Speaker 3>the United States, they could take on Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>So why aren't we doing that? Or it wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>necessary because Putin wouldn't want that fight, right, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, blah blah blah World War three, nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>power escalation, not our fight. All those are legitimate concerns,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely legitimate. Sure your thoughts on this text line?

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<v Speaker 3>Four one five, Oh, it's it's COVID, promptly COVID whooping cough.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife went to the doctor, she's gotten uper respiratory thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They insisted on checking her for COVID. She's like, that's coronavirus.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, who cares if I have COVID? What does

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<v Speaker 1>it matter?

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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting When I had whooping cough. They never checked

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<v Speaker 3>me for COVID at any point.

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<v Speaker 1>Gunnery. It could be gunnery for me, not her. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see that. Most likely, Okay. Our text line is

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<v Speaker 1>four one five two k FTC.

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<v Speaker 3>An elephant in India ran toward a man who tried

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<v Speaker 3>to take a selfie with the beast.

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<v Speaker 1>Signed to say, it's the first instance of Rosie O'Donnell

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<v Speaker 1>going after a man.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, Wow, Greg, I don't think I've ever heard of

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<v Speaker 5>anybody who traffics in ugly or fat jokes more than

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<v Speaker 5>Greg Guttfeld.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, oh man, So.

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<v Speaker 3>We're trying to get a handle on where y'all are.

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<v Speaker 3>Not that that informs my opinion on this whole Rushia

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<v Speaker 3>Ukraine thing. I'm just interested in where you all are. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>Joe put out a pole on was it Friday? Did

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<v Speaker 3>you put the pole out on Twitter? What were your choices?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, your reaction to the summit meeting in Alaska. Let's see,

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<v Speaker 1>I worded them carefully, so I want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>I can get this right. Here we go. Uh, Trump

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<v Speaker 1>said ceasefire or severe consequences, and I will be very unhappy.

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<v Speaker 1>No ceasefire, flattery and press conference and no consequences yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Pick your headline choice one Donald Trump keeps deal alive.

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<v Speaker 1>It's smart headline. Two fake tough guy backs down, and

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<v Speaker 1>the first much more complimentary one one fifty nine hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of votes. Yeah, so it's basically fifty to fifty on that.

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<v Speaker 3>I threw out a I just said, I'm really this

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<v Speaker 3>was on Friday. I'm really disappointed in the way this

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<v Speaker 3>turned out, explaining me while I'm wrong basically, and uh,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a fair amount that agreed with me in disappointment,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're a fair amount that it's a long game,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a strategy, it's this and that, which it might

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<v Speaker 3>be for all I know. The text line for the

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<v Speaker 3>show is really hateful I mean, you guys have Trump's

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<v Speaker 3>private so far up your or down your whatever that

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<v Speaker 3>you can't see straight, that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, so it's anti Trump people who are berating us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's funny. I assumed it was pro Trump people at

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<v Speaker 1>least on the town line. It's funny. Mostly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you'll do anything to hill for the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, I hope you get help with your hearing

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<v Speaker 1>loss because that can be a devastating condition.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think I've been definitely mostly on the side

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<v Speaker 3>of extreme disappointment with Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I heard a lot of ass kissing myself.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way I interpreted your obsequious belly showing remarks.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to be diplomatic here, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways, trying to figure out where you all are on that.

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<v Speaker 3>So you can feel free to text or email. But

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<v Speaker 3>we'll have a lot more clarity today what happened in

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<v Speaker 3>the last seventy two hours. Probably Lee is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be not matter at all after today, because there'll be

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of movement with the European leaders and Zelenski

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<v Speaker 3>there at the White House. Got a lot more on

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<v Speaker 3>the way. If you missed a segment get the podcast

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<v Speaker 3>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 1>On Demand Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>Katie didn't tell us the full story about the Minnesota

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<v Speaker 3>Vikings cheerleaders.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay, oh, oh is she keeping key facts back? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Hiding them as it were. Oh, don't look all incident,

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<v Speaker 1>All innocent, Katie. Easy for you to say, all right, yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>more on that to come. What else? There was something

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<v Speaker 1>else I was going to say, I can't remember. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. Oh, that's right. So, you know, just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the angst of some of the good folks about

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<v Speaker 1>whether we were busy servicing Trump in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>should only be done by his wives and paramours, or

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<v Speaker 1>whether indeed we're anti Trump lunatics, and we've been accused

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<v Speaker 1>of both, like in the last fifteen minutes. Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're trying to decide which side are they pandering to? Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>you've actually figured out the answer to that because we don't. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay if we disagree sometimes. Can you imagine agreeing

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<v Speaker 1>with somebody one hundred percent of the time, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>being honest with you. They're pandering. It's not what we do.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, I hope you can have a little patience

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<v Speaker 1>with us for that, all right. Having said that, of

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<v Speaker 1>all the things in the last day, the last week,

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<v Speaker 1>the last month that have made you say, what the

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<v Speaker 1>hell this might be the what the helliest of them,

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, I give you former head of the FBI,

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<v Speaker 1>framer of Donald Trump, propagator of the Russia hoax, James Comy.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, everybody, welcome back to my substack. Last week's cold

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<v Speaker 6>turns out to have been COVID quite a flat, and

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<v Speaker 6>Donald Trump is still president and still humiliating America on

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<v Speaker 6>a national stage standing next to Vladimir Putin. It's like

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<v Speaker 6>a dream, a bad dream you can't wake up from.

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<v Speaker 6>But I don't want to talk about that bad dream

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<v Speaker 6>this week. I want to talk about a truly inspirational

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<v Speaker 6>public figure named Taylor Swift. Of course I watched her

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<v Speaker 6>podcast interview with the Kelsey Brothers. Of course I watched

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<v Speaker 6>the whole thing, although on YouTube. Teresa and I got

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<v Speaker 6>kicked off for the last fifteen minutes and finished it

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<v Speaker 6>on her phone. But I watched it. You see Taylor

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<v Speaker 6>Swift and I go way back. I went to my

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<v Speaker 6>first concert of hers fifteen years ago. What I've been

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<v Speaker 6>to a second, and I have helped financially support the

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<v Speaker 6>attendance of a lot of family members at others. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>in a family's Swifty group chat. I know all her

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<v Speaker 6>music and I listened to it on my headphones when

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<v Speaker 6>I cut the grass.

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<v Speaker 1>There's more. It goes on for a couple more minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell that's James? Call me? Are we sure

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<v Speaker 1>that's not Ai. I'd seen headline slash stories about it

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<v Speaker 1>in other places that I think would have known better,

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<v Speaker 1>or he would have pushed or looked like him. He

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<v Speaker 1>would have come out by now and said that wasn't him.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, I would agree. Wow, that's what If

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<v Speaker 1>anybody has any evidence that it is AI, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be even more interesting than whatever the hell

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<v Speaker 1>that just was the way he said certain things.

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<v Speaker 3>I've contributed to the financial efforts of some family members

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<v Speaker 3>to support Taylor Swift.

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<v Speaker 1>You mean you bought tickets for your kids? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times x FBI director James Comy makes bizarre

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<v Speaker 1>confession Fox News James Comy raves about Taylor Swift in

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<v Speaker 1>bizarre video. The Daily Beast Maga melts down over James

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<v Speaker 1>Comy's creepy Taylor Swift video. Even they being lefties, are like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was weird and creepy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, so I don't you know he likes Taylor

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<v Speaker 3>Swift whatever. I don't care kind of music other people like.

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<v Speaker 3>But the like the juxtaposition of that with Trump and.

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<v Speaker 1>Putin and everything, it's so weird and what is he

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<v Speaker 1>What was the point of that? Yeah, conservatives mock komy

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<v Speaker 1>over Taylor Swift video. That's the hill. Yeah, it's it's legit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's weird. Wow, he's a half a nut. Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely true. Okay, Katie, you got to explain this.

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<v Speaker 3>So Katie had in her headlines I think last week

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<v Speaker 3>something about there are a couple of male cheerleaders from

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<v Speaker 3>the Minnesota Vikings. And I remember at the time, Am

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<v Speaker 3>I making this up? You didn't have that story?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? I had a story about people were mad. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>it was an email that there were a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>gay fellas that were being Minnesota Vikings cheerleaders. And the

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<v Speaker 1>emailer was saying, look, you didn't care about the Vikings

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<v Speaker 1>cheerleaders before, don't start caring about them now. Worry about

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<v Speaker 1>things that matter.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, wherever the story came from, So I was

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<v Speaker 3>just thinking, why is this a thing?

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<v Speaker 1>There's always been male's cheerleaders.

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<v Speaker 3>They're usually like really stocky, athletic looking dudes that look

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<v Speaker 3>like there are probably gymnasts that can, you know, hoist

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<v Speaker 3>the girls and flip them up in the air.

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<v Speaker 1>And catch them in that sort of stuff. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>really a new thing. No, being a friend in college

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those guys.

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<v Speaker 3>These male cheerleaders from the Minnesota Vikings are a tall, skinny, effeminate,

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<v Speaker 3>long haired, wearing the girl's outfits cheerleaders.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh gender bending madness? Yeah, what the hell? I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, do you so woke the Minneapolis metro area?

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<v Speaker 1>You do you?

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm just surprised for the NFL that they went

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<v Speaker 3>with the I mean, they don't say they're specifically transgender,

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<v Speaker 3>although they look.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they could be. Blaze see their dudes dressed as women,

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<v Speaker 1>blaze chic really and.

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<v Speaker 3>As one person's and uh yeah, and they I mean

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<v Speaker 3>they're liberacci is in heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying that's too gay, too blaze cheic. You gotta rein

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<v Speaker 1>it in. You think liberacis in heaven? Not in my heaven?

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<v Speaker 1>He's not. Wow, I'm fine, not going there.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I just thought, man, they went really far

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<v Speaker 3>there at the I know, I realized Minnesota is a

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<v Speaker 3>very progressive town, but NFL fans generally aren't.

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<v Speaker 1>Right well, Minneapolis as such is that weird red green

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<v Speaker 1>alliance between like way left Marxists and Muslim fundamentalists mostly

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<v Speaker 1>from Somalia. The only thing they agree is they hate

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<v Speaker 1>America and want to tear it down. Sorry to do

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<v Speaker 1>it with the help of two lanky dressed as male

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<v Speaker 1>women or women. It's whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>So I drug sorry, I drug you into this, Katie

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<v Speaker 3>for some reason, I thought you were involved in this story.

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<v Speaker 1>Then all right, I'll get over it. Oh Katie, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what you need to hear. You're gonna find this

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<v Speaker 1>so sweet. So we're going to London next week, will

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<v Speaker 1>be off. Please forgive me. Judy and I we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>really done much for a long time, and so we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing a vacation in London, and we got to have

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<v Speaker 1>somebody take care of our dog. Well, our friend, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, I'm gonna call him Don, our friend Don

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<v Speaker 1>who like loves dogs beyond loving dogs. When he was divorced,

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<v Speaker 1>he and his dog, it was just the two of

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<v Speaker 1>them living in rural Wyoming, okay, out in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere. They were close. Well, he lost his beloved

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<v Speaker 1>dog a couple of months ago. He passed on, and

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<v Speaker 1>they volunteered to take care of Baxter for the week

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<v Speaker 1>we're gone. And so we brought Basie over to the

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<v Speaker 1>house and had dinner and stuff to introduce him and

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<v Speaker 1>show him around the house. And I'll oh my, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to give him back. Oh that's oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they bond And the two of them were like

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<v Speaker 1>fast friends and oh wow, my buddy, don he's just

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<v Speaker 1>oh he was so happy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's more from a dog's perspective. When you come back,

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<v Speaker 3>Baxter's gonna say, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, Oh you that like makes me do stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>you give me commands and stuff. I get nothing but

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<v Speaker 1>love here, nothing but love. I didn't realize how good

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<v Speaker 1>it could be, you fully telling me to sit and

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<v Speaker 1>wait to eat until you say it's okay, I'm staying here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>probably so, but anyway, Oh it is so sweet. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that. Yeah, I know. Katie's a famous dog lover.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, a couple of non Ukraine Russia related

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<v Speaker 3>news items for you, Mayor Adams of New York slams

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<v Speaker 3>Mumdani for wanting to decriminalize prostitution.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where in.

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<v Speaker 3>His Kuran it states that that's okay. Oh like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, see, that's the thing. The Marxists and the Islamists

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<v Speaker 1>is an unholy alliance pun intended well out of side

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor Adams finding a way to work in.

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<v Speaker 3>He wants prostitution to be illegal and takes a shot

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<v Speaker 3>at his being a Muslim at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's pretty clever. That's a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 1>That race is not over. That's exciting stuff. No, the

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<v Speaker 1>knives have just now come out from Mamdani really, uh

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<v Speaker 1>so totally different topic. Musk Altman and all the other

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<v Speaker 1>super heavyweights of AI are now getting together, well not

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<v Speaker 1>getting together exactly, but they're all talking about how universal

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<v Speaker 1>basic income is a really good idea and that when

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<v Speaker 1>AI unleashes just mountains of profit, but you know, inconveniently

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<v Speaker 1>renders millions of people unemployable, they are willing to share

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<v Speaker 1>the wealth and we will probably have a major universal

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<v Speaker 1>basic income system. I think you said this a week

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<v Speaker 1>or so ago. Well, how's the math work on that?

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<v Speaker 3>So these companies become incredibly productive they're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>voluntarily give this money over to the Guaranteed Income program,

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<v Speaker 3>so that government going to tax you if you use

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<v Speaker 3>a I at a different rate or no.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's that these companies. Let me, let

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<v Speaker 1>me just read you this and see if that answer

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<v Speaker 1>your question, then I've got an answer. Well many of

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<v Speaker 1>well many people think of UBI, that's universal basic income

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<v Speaker 1>as a taxpayer funded system. Silicon Valley's elite envision AI

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<v Speaker 1>doing humans work from mundane factory jobs to highly skilled

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<v Speaker 1>white collar roles and funding payouts through cost savings and

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<v Speaker 1>more revenue. Tech leaders say that revenue can be shared

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<v Speaker 1>under a massive wealth redistribution system. Essentially, there are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be so few people running these companies making such

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<v Speaker 1>astounding mountain of money that they're willing to share a

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<v Speaker 1>significant chunk to keep the populace from going berserk because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so many people are going to be out

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<v Speaker 1>of work. Okay, that's nice. Words. They're going to share

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<v Speaker 1>how much with who distributed how well the bare minimum

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<v Speaker 1>they can get away with through the filter of government,

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<v Speaker 1>which will enrich bureaucrats and fat cats and takers, not makers,

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<v Speaker 1>and the rest of us will get a pittance after

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<v Speaker 1>the oligarchs have taken their share.

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<v Speaker 3>Well like, and then do they hand out the money

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<v Speaker 3>to everyone? I mean, like, if I'm unemployed, I can say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I would have a job over there if

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<v Speaker 3>it weren't for AI give me a check whereas I'm working.

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<v Speaker 3>Me Jack Armstrong, I'm working. Why don't I I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>getting any of that because I already.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a job. So isn't that going to motivate people?

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't quit this job, But wouldn't that motivates some

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<v Speaker 3>people who have jobs they don't prictually like to quit.

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<v Speaker 1>Them and claim that I don't know that this is

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<v Speaker 1>how it's gonna come out, But you're forgetting the universal

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<v Speaker 1>part of universal basic income goes to everybody gets it,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody gets it flat fee.

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<v Speaker 3>I really don't see how this works. Altman said, isn't

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<v Speaker 3>that okay? There are so many questions I have here.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'm just a dullard. But so if I'm all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden getting a big check from Universal income

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<v Speaker 3>that keeps my life going, doesn't my company then not

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<v Speaker 3>need to give me a raise or starts hiring people

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<v Speaker 3>at lower salaries because a chunk of it's picked up

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<v Speaker 3>by the government with the universal income.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the gainfully employed will be such a minority.

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<v Speaker 1>Folks like you will be an afterthought. Wow your scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah wow, so Altman, Old Sam Altman of Open AI

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<v Speaker 1>chat GPT fame. He was on THEO Vaughn's podcast. He

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<v Speaker 1>now thinks that instead of money, everyone could receive an

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<v Speaker 1>ownership share in whatever AI creates that would allow the

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<v Speaker 1>wealth accumulated by AI to he spread across the population,

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<v Speaker 1>calling the idea a universal extreme mode. You're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a restructuring of society in a very short period of time,

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<v Speaker 1>the likes of which has never happened in the history

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<v Speaker 1>of the world. Correct. Yes, it's a brave new world.

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<v Speaker 1>He imagined a scenario in which every human is giving

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<v Speaker 1>a given a trillion tokens. Oh, there's more to hate here.

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<v Speaker 1>The basic unit of information that large language models use

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<v Speaker 1>each year. You can sell it or treat it as

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<v Speaker 1>personal wealth. Is an alternative to all wealth being consolidated

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<v Speaker 1>in the normal capitalistic system. He says, Okay, okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>is just this is too much, too fast. This is

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<v Speaker 1>never gonna happen. Uh yeah, Actually, there the labor there's

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<v Speaker 1>a labor economist in Mit called it frightening in a

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<v Speaker 1>political fantasy land. There's more to this discussion. We ought

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<v Speaker 1>to maybe bring it over to the next on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of the break.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would like to talk more about it. I

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<v Speaker 3>wonder if they're just not throwing out half brained ideas

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<v Speaker 3>because they got to have something to say, say to

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<v Speaker 3>push back against everybody's going to be out of work. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we got a lot on the way. While that is

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<v Speaker 3>really really interesting, stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a horrible story.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we'll get to later about this little girl who

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<v Speaker 3>was using chat gpt.

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<v Speaker 1>Little girl shoes young using chat.

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<v Speaker 3>Gpt for therapy and ended up killing herself and now

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<v Speaker 3>mom's trying to sue somebody about therapy or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they've really got to work out that whole. It

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<v Speaker 1>encourages you and is supportive of you, even if you're

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<v Speaker 1>like delusional or terribly depressed. Hey, you're right, nobody does

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<v Speaker 1>like you. If you say you're worthless, I'm working. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with you. You know, No, you got to tweak that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam so Sam Altman of Open Ai, speaking of witches,

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<v Speaker 1>we were discussing. He's been making the rounds talking to

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<v Speaker 1>various folks about how AI is going to create just

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<v Speaker 1>ginormous amounts of wealth but also put scads of people

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<v Speaker 1>out of work. And so he's pushing something it's like

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<v Speaker 1>universal basic income, but he calls it universal extreme wealth,

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody will just get the outflow of wealth from

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<v Speaker 1>this technological marvel he and others are designing.

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<v Speaker 3>I like how blase they are about restructuring society in

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<v Speaker 3>ways nobody has ever done. In like six months from now,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, turning us all into the idle rich and then

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<v Speaker 1>it'll just be grand and marve. Think about the rich

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<v Speaker 1>kids you know that have been on trust funds their

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<v Speaker 1>whole lives. They've all got wonderful lives. So happiness and

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<v Speaker 1>productivity right. Elon Musk touts universal high income, the concept

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<v Speaker 1>that AI will automate most production and the public can

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<v Speaker 1>share in the revenue. Mark Bennioff, CEO of Salesforce, says

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<v Speaker 1>up to half of the work at the company is

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<v Speaker 1>now done by AI. Oh my god. He is an

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<v Speaker 1>evangelist for universal basic income and said during the pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>that he sees COVID nineteen stimulus checks as a model

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<v Speaker 1>for broader income distribution. Oh wow. Mark do you even

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<v Speaker 1>read the news? But so you.

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<v Speaker 3>Emphasized the you and universal. I wasn't picturing that. So

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<v Speaker 3>we're all gonna get a.

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<v Speaker 1>Chunk of the money. Well then how about that? He

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<v Speaker 1>canna be welfare. It's just gonna float everybody. But we're fine.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you don't have a job that was affected

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<v Speaker 3>by AI, I'm assuming this is enough to live on,

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<v Speaker 3>is the point they're making. I mean, right, so if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have a job affected by AI, why would

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<v Speaker 3>you keep working your job? Won't everybody quit?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, see, that's the thing. Benioff actually sees it as

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<v Speaker 1>more of a welfare program. He wrote that automation will

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<v Speaker 1>drive income inequality one of the most overused in stupid

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<v Speaker 1>terms anywhere, and necessitate supplemental income quote for those who

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<v Speaker 1>cannot be retrained and even those traditionally not compensated for

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<v Speaker 1>raising a family or volunteering to help others. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>a massive amount of wealth will be available, and politicians

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<v Speaker 1>will decide who gets what. They will route it to

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<v Speaker 1>cronies and keep a fair amount for themselves. It will

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<v Speaker 1>just be you know, uncountable scads of money. Now there

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<v Speaker 1>are critics, not all of Silicon Valley is on board.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's David Autor, labor economist, and MIT said the hypothetical

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<v Speaker 1>society in which the majority of income has distributed from

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<v Speaker 1>a few sources is frightening in a political fantasy land.

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<v Speaker 1>AI leaders support universal income because quote, they think they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put everyone out of work and they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a better idea for what to do about that.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, this, Yeah, this is a that's a This

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing you've described is completely unworkable.

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<v Speaker 1>In any realistic sense.

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<v Speaker 3>So I is anybody thinking about this?

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<v Speaker 1>Is Congress thinking about this? They should be if they're not. Interestingly,

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<v Speaker 1>venture capitalist Marc Andreesen is my man in this. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He says that man was meant to be useful, to

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<v Speaker 1>be p ductive, to be proud, And if AI transforms

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<v Speaker 1>every job, that's going to be a serious, serious challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the big world's biggest understatement, serious challenge. Yeah, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>say maybe the end of mankind might be closer. All right.

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