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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, and welcome to Unfiltered, the JBL podcast and

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Speaker 1: I Hot Radio production and partnership with j B L.

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Speaker 1: I am your host, Betty Who. This is a very

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Speaker 1: special episode because not only is it our season finale

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Speaker 1: if you can believe it, but right now I am

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Speaker 1: live in the Social studio at JBL Fest in Las Vegas, Vegas. Baby,

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Speaker 1: it's hot, we're sweaty, we're ready for Doja Cat, and

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Speaker 1: most importantly, we are ready for Tiger Lily. Yes, that's right,

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Speaker 1: this is our guest for today. I'm so excited that

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Speaker 1: Tiger Lily is here to help me wrap up our

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Speaker 1: first season of the podcast. If you have been sleeping

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Speaker 1: on Tiger Lily, let me catch you up. She's a kill,

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Speaker 1: a DJ and music producer and fellow Australian. When she's

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Speaker 1: not making and mixing insane beats, you can find her

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Speaker 1: doing her part as an animal rights activist or hosting

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Speaker 1: her own podcast, Team Tiger Radio, where she collaborates and

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Speaker 1: vibes with music's hottest DJs and producers. In every episode,

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to talk about what she's listening to

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Speaker 1: these days, musical inspirations and how she found her vibe

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Speaker 1: and place in this crazy industry. So what do you say,

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Speaker 1: Let's get right into it totally. I believe you're here

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Speaker 1: with me now today. Neither. It's amazing. It's really nice

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Speaker 1: because I was just saying before we started that I

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Speaker 1: get really Australian when I'm with a fellow Australian, and

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Speaker 1: when I'm talking to an American, I feel like I

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Speaker 1: get really American. So I feel like if you've listened

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Speaker 1: to any of the episodes before this episode, everyone's going

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Speaker 1: to be like, this is a completely new host. Because

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Speaker 1: now I'm a hundred percents turned all the way up.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for your inner Bogan to come out. I

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Speaker 1: feel so alive already. Okay, so when did you get here?

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Speaker 1: You got here from Sydney, right, you came in Okay,

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Speaker 1: came here a couple of days ago. Um jet lag

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Speaker 1: was pretty disgusting yesterday, but feeling really good today. The

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Speaker 1: podcast today Vegas? Is this your first time in Vegas? Now?

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Speaker 1: A copy? Definitely not for a djen here many many

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Speaker 1: many times, maybe one too many times. Well it will

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Speaker 1: not be one too many of this time. We were

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Speaker 1: really going to make it happen. Okay, So to start

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Speaker 1: us off. I've got so many questions for you, but

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Speaker 1: let's start with this whole podcast is about being authentic,

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Speaker 1: being confident, being yourself. And from your fabulous sufer and

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Speaker 1: pink hair and gorgeous energy, I can already tell that

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Speaker 1: you are excellent at being yourself. But I want to

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Speaker 1: know what kind of one of the biggest lessons you've

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Speaker 1: learned through your career as a musician. But also you

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Speaker 1: know how it feels to be a role model to

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Speaker 1: other younger people. Did you make an active decision to

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Speaker 1: step into the role and take that responsibility. What's that

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Speaker 1: journey been like for you? So I think the biggest

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Speaker 1: lesson that I have learned in my career is that

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Speaker 1: the journey changes and your goals And um, I suppose

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Speaker 1: your perspective on that journey changes throughout your career and

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Speaker 1: that's really okay. Um I suppose six years ago, I

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Speaker 1: was hustling so hard. I was like spending a lot

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Speaker 1: of time over here and in Europe and away from

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Speaker 1: Although my career was like smashing, it smashed, but career

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Speaker 1: was great, personal life not so good. And so they

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Speaker 1: said that in Devils Product, they say, if you just

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Speaker 1: if your personal life is crumble like, then you're ready

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Speaker 1: for a promotion. Yes. Absolutely, that's where I was. And

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Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'm I'm not happy

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Speaker 1: still achieving different career goals while still having great relationships

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Speaker 1: very difficult to listen to because we're told to just

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Speaker 1: keep hustling and keep pushing, and in regards to like

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Speaker 1: being a role model, being you know, a woman and

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Speaker 1: kind of stepping into that, I never really thought about it.

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Speaker 1: But it has kind of ended up that way, which

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Speaker 1: people to feel like they have a place at the table. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: that's amazing. With your sort of priorities shifting, Like, what

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Speaker 1: health because I was pretty hanging on both throughout. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: myself space to show up for myself. So I wasn't

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Speaker 1: I suppose, Um, So it looked like saying no to

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Speaker 1: ninety two, Baby, I'm a ninety one baby. I love

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Speaker 1: this first twinning on so many level. I really love

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Speaker 1: this for us. I feel like at this part, like

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Speaker 1: my early twenties was about the like club bus another club,

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Speaker 1: Yes exactly, I totally. I think that there is an

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Speaker 1: What's your vibe, what's your perfect night off? I have

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Speaker 1: I'm like music helps me wind down. Also, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: don't listen to those teachers. But I think it's it's

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Speaker 1: and so I starting, thanks, You've provided me with some

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Speaker 1: you by probably doing that a little bit more because

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Speaker 1: I reckon. I'm probably still, you know, a bit hung

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Speaker 1: up on that. Yeah, it's I understand it's really hard,

429
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Speaker 1: but I think I'm there's something that's really cool. I

430
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Speaker 1: think I value my toughness, and I think, especially for you,

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Speaker 1: I can imagine being in this business that is so

432
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Speaker 1: male dominated, that is so chauvinistic, and especially in Australia,

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Speaker 1: where I have experienced more sexism in Australia than I

434
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Speaker 1: have in America. That's my personal you know, I think

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Speaker 1: it's cultural. You know, um, and I don't want to,

436
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Speaker 1: you know, generalize, but you know what I mean, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I definitely agree with you. I think there you have

438
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Speaker 1: to be a little bit of a tough bitch, right.

439
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that you've your skin is thicker than it

440
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Speaker 1: was ten years ago, and you've had to arrive at

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Speaker 1: this place to be like, No, I'm I've had to

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Speaker 1: claw my way to where I am, Like, I'm not

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Speaker 1: giving this up for anything. I know who who I am.

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Speaker 1: So it's funny that I value my toughness, but then

445
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Speaker 1: also am like trying to be the sweet little flower

446
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 1: that everybody can be. You know. It's like so nice. Yes,

447
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Speaker 1: it's all about balance my labor energy. But I think

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Speaker 1: it's cool. I think it's good to like to value

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Speaker 1: that part of yourself and to be like, no, I'm

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Speaker 1: a tough fish. That's sick vibes, and this is what

451
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Speaker 1: I want and this is what I'm gonna do. Cool vibe. Um.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of that, Yes, the sort of patriarchy, if you will, Yes,

453
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Speaker 1: I want to know you know, we're keeping it light

454
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Speaker 1: and fun and authentic. Hashtag authentic, hashtag GBL, hashtag fun um.

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Speaker 1: But I I want to sort of gauge a little

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Speaker 1: bit of your experience of I think with social media, musicians, actors,

457
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Speaker 1: and other public figures, especially those who are women, are

458
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Speaker 1: constantly given an opinion about the way we look about

459
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 1: the way That's a huge factor, I'm sure, especially also

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Speaker 1: in night life that you've probably had to experience or

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Speaker 1: deal with. Can you share about your experience that puts

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Speaker 1: you in this like kind of spooky like I must

463
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Speaker 1: be hot air all limelight, like I mean if I

464
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Speaker 1: may be so bank you girl sitting next to me,

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Speaker 1: But like do you feel kind of pressure or sort

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Speaker 1: of putt in a box about it? Do you feel

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Speaker 1: like it's something that people really remark on all the time,

468
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Speaker 1: Like does it make you annoyed? Are you like, yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm hot, like loving this for me? Where are you

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Speaker 1: at a bit of all the bit of all of that? Absolutely, Um,

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Speaker 1: there's definitely pressure to look good. Like you look at

472
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Speaker 1: all the female DJs in the world and they are

473
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Speaker 1: all smoke shows, they are all super hot, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: that's not a coincidence, Like what's going on? So then

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Speaker 1: I definitely think there's pressure to I want to look

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Speaker 1: good and feel good. But for me, I already have

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Speaker 1: that pressure on myself and it's not physical. It's mental.

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Speaker 1: When I'm fit and my skins glowy and I've slept

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Speaker 1: well and I'm eating good. That's when I feel the best.

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Speaker 1: You're like, look at me, go totally, that's my friend,

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Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely. So I think for me, I don't mind

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Speaker 1: as much because I know with or without the expectation,

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Speaker 1: I would do it anyway. That's a hum that's a

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Speaker 1: huge part of it, maybe, I think so. I think

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Speaker 1: I am on the opposite spectrum where if nobody was

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Speaker 1: watching me, I probably wouldn't. I'm so such a personality, queen,

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Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? And so it's been

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Speaker 1: a long journey to arrive at being like this. It

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Speaker 1: does make me feel better when I take care of myself.

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Speaker 1: I love she loves to be in the gym and

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Speaker 1: feel like I'm I'm strong and I'm taking care of

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Speaker 1: my body and putting that time and effort in. And

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Speaker 1: so I think you arriving at a place where you're like, yes,

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Speaker 1: people expect something from me, but I actually do this

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Speaker 1: for me and not for everybody else. It's probably a

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Speaker 1: huge factor of what makes it really healthy and really

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Speaker 1: like useful to you, which makes it easy. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: think one thing that does annoy me is that people

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Speaker 1: always say, oh, you're so pretty or whatever, and then

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Speaker 1: they say, oh, I saw you perform last night. You're

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Speaker 1: such a great DJ. That was such a great set.

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Speaker 1: How much do you love that? Like? Did you think

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Speaker 1: that I have not had like a twelve year career

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Speaker 1: and still going strong and like I'm not good? Like

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Speaker 1: did you think I was bad? Did you think I

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Speaker 1: was just pressing play on a pre recorded set? But

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Speaker 1: when people are shocked when they're like, oh my god, wait,

508
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: you're actually really good, the surprise and your voice needs

509
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: to go like such a back kind of compliment door

510
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: actually saying genuinely that I'm good. So I appreciate that,

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Speaker 1: but like the surprise, it's like the implication is that

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Speaker 1: they had yes, that they had no idea that you

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Speaker 1: could actually like turn it out. So that's really frustrating.

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Speaker 1: But I think that that is not just the thing

515
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: in the music industry, I reckon that's for women everywhere.

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00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: Imagine like a super stunning surgeon walks in and she's like,

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Speaker 1: let's go to do and the guys would be like, oh,

518
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: immediately makes a different judgment about her because she looks

519
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: she looks a certain way, And that's something that's always

520
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Speaker 1: frustrated me. If you're confident and beautiful physically, and like,

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Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't necessarily need to look a certain

522
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Speaker 1: way because you know, there's so many different elements of beauty.

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Speaker 1: People think that your diamond can't do something well well

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Speaker 1: and being beautiful as energy, right, Like I really totally

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Speaker 1: That's what I was trying to say, Like I think

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Speaker 1: that I think that, or of course genetics or a

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Speaker 1: blessing of course, but like I find that when I

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Speaker 1: feel my most beautiful as when I'm shining from the inside,

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Speaker 1: and then people are like, you look pretty today, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I had the same face when I was

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Speaker 1: hungover and tired and jet lagged and didn't have a

532
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: beautiful energy because I didn't feel like myself. So I

533
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 1: think there's such a a light from inside of us

534
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: that you can project and especially it's like sounds like

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00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: you've really tapped into and that's the thing that people experience,

536
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: they feel your energy when they're with you. How do

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00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: you deal with like hashtag caters, hashtag trolls. I mean,

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00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 1: it's like such a does it really actually bother you

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Speaker 1: or are you at a place where you're like the haters,

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Speaker 1: I'm good, I couldn't. Okay, that's awesome, but I was

541
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: hoping that was you never cared lessive. It's just like

542
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: block go away your I tend to laugh because I

543
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: think it's I think people drag it like people saying

544
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: mean things. Makes me laugh because I maybe I have

545
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: enough self love to realize that it's it shouldn't get

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00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: past like the outer alma, you know, it's like we

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00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: can all off about this together. And I think that's

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00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: you sound like you have a good You're like whatever,

549
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: get out of here. My favorite thing on Instagram is

550
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: when people I follow call out haters. Yes, and they

551
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: don't hide their name, they don't hide anything, and they

552
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: just ruthlessly going. And I actually I think, you know,

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00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: like I would never do it because this is me

554
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: being that nice girl, too scared to do that, but

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00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: like allowing these people and so they should because these

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00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: people have come at them publicly, because Instagram is pretty

557
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: public saying these awful things. And so that's my favorite

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Speaker 1: thing to watch the t on Instagram. Something that I

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00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: love that you do, also, UM, is that you have

560
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Speaker 1: made it a point I feel like to partner specifically

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Speaker 1: with inclusive clothing brands UM, which as somebody who necessarily

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Speaker 1: can't you know, probably could fit into a lot of

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00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: different clothing. To actively use your platform and voice to

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00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: exclusively work with brands who want to create a safer

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Speaker 1: space for women in fashion and not just women, like

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Speaker 1: women and men and everyone like this out that I'm

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Speaker 1: wearing at the moment. It's from Camilla, which is an

568
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: Australian designer amazing and she does stuff that's so inclusive

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00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: and is always thinking outside the square. She does often

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00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: cop a lot of hate that she's like not doing

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00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: it well enough, but she's giving it a go and

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00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that, and I think that that's really

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Speaker 1: cool totally. I feel like so many things. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I feel like we're best friends now so much obsessed

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Speaker 1: with us. Thank you so much for joining me here

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Speaker 1: at JBL Fest. This is actually my first in person

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Speaker 1: interview for this is the only one all seasons, so

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00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: that's really special. Thanks Australias of amazing. Have loved chatting

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Speaker 1: to you all. The question has been amazing and she's great.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it and we're going to party like it's tonight.

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Speaker 1: Sounds great. Thank you so much again to Tiger Lily

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Speaker 1: for joining me at JBL Fest. You are so talented

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Speaker 1: and bring so much beautiful joy and energy and light

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Speaker 1: to your fans and now also me and us here

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Speaker 1: at JBL Fest. It is crazy to say it, but

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Speaker 1: that is it for our first season. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining me on this ride. I had the

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Speaker 1: most fun, so I hope you did too. Don't forget

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