1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, and welcome to Unfiltered, the JBL podcast and 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio production in partnership with JBL. 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: I am your host, Betty Who. 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: This is a very special episode because not only is 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: it our season finale if you can believe it, but 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: right now I am live in the Social studio at 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: Jblfest in Las Vegas, Vegas. Baby, it's hot, we're sweaty, 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: we're ready for Doja Cat, and most importantly, we are 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: ready for Tiger Lily. Yes, that's right, this is our 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: guest for today. I'm so excited that Tiger Lily is 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: here to help me wrap up our first season of 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: the podcast. If you have been sleeping on Tiger Lily, 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: let me catch you up. She's a killer DJ and 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: music producer and fellow Australian. When she's not making and 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: mixing insane beats, you can find her doing her part 16 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: as an animal rights activist or hosting her own podcast, 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: Team Tiger Radio, where she collaborates and vibes with music's 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: hottest DJs and producers. In every episode, I cannot wait 19 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: to talk about what she's listening to these days, musical 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: inspirations and how she found her vibe and placed in 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: this crazy industry. So what do you say, Let's get 22 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,919 Speaker 1: right into it totally. 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: I believe you're here with me now today. Neither. It's amazing. 24 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: It's really nice because I was just saying before we 25 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: started that I get really Australian when I'm with a 26 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: fellow Australian, and when I'm talking to an American, I 27 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: feel like I get really American. So I feel like 28 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: if you've listened to any of the episodes before this episode, 29 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: everyone's going to be like, this is a completely new host. 30 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: Because now I'm one hundred percents turned all the way up. 31 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: I'm excited for your inner Bogain to come out. Oh 32 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: I feel so alive already. Okay, so when did you 33 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: get here? You got here from Sydney, right, you came 34 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: in Okay, came here a couple of days ago. 35 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: Jet Lab was pretty disgusting yesterday, but feeling really good 36 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 3: today between the podcast today Vegas. 37 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: Is this your first time in Vegas? No, it can't be. 38 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 3: Definitely not Yeah for a DJ no way here many many, 39 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: many times. 40 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: I've maybe one too many times. Well it will not 41 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: be one too many. This time. We were really going 42 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:56,919 Speaker 2: to make it happen. 43 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So to start us off, I've got so many 44 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: questions for you, but let's start with this whole podcast 45 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: is about being authentic, being confident, being yourself. Yeah, and 46 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: from your fabulous offit and pink hair and gorgeous energy, 47 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: I can already tell that you are excellent at being yourself. 48 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: But I want to know what kind of one of 49 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: the biggest lessons you've learned through your career as a musician. 50 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: But also you know how it feels to be a 51 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: role model to other younger people. Did you make an 52 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: active decision to step into the role and take that responsibility. 53 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: What's that journey been. 54 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 3: Like for you? So, I think the biggest lesson that 55 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 3: I have learned in my career is that the journey 56 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 3: changes and your goals and I suppose your perspective on 57 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: that journey changes throughout your career, and that's really okay. 58 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 3: I suppose six years ago, I was hustling so hard. 59 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 3: I was like spending a lot of time over here 60 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: and in Europe and away from my family and friends, 61 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: and was really unhappy and unfulfilled. Although my career was 62 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: like smashing it smashed. Yeah, Yeah, career was great. Personal life, Yeah, 63 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 3: not so good? 64 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: And so would they say that in Devil we Was Prada, 65 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: they say, if you just if your personal life is 66 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: crumble like, then you're ready for a promotion. 67 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: Yes. Absolutely, that's where I was. 68 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: And I was like, you know what, I'm not happy 69 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 3: with it, giving Andy sax Okay, great, Yeah, I didn't 70 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: want to be doing this anymore. And so I made 71 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: a couple of changes with like my goals and what 72 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: I wanted to do. And it was the best decision 73 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 3: because like now physically and mentally, I'm so happy and 74 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: I'm still achieving different career goals while still having great relationships. 75 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: With my family and friends. 76 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: And yeah, I think that was probably my biggest learning lesson, 77 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: but something that was very difficult to listen to because 78 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: we're told to just keep hustling and keep pushing, and 79 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 3: in regards to like being a role model, being you know, 80 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: a woman and kind of stepping into that, I never 81 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: really thought about it. I just always wanted to be 82 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: a DJ and do music and so I just kind 83 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: of followed my heart. But it has kind of ended 84 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: up that way, which is really nice. And in Australia, 85 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: and I actually think probably here as well, we need 86 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: more women in music, especially dance music, because it's really 87 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: crowded by the lads. So yeah, it's lovely to see 88 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: more women joining in. And I'm hoping by you know, 89 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: continuing to show up that you know. 90 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: You can inspire people to feel like they have a 91 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: place at the table. Absolutely, that's amazing with your sort 92 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: of priorities shifting, Like what was sort of the things 93 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: that you really wanted to focus on and maybe step 94 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: back from. 95 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, the things I wanted to focus on was my 96 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 3: physical and mental health because I was pretty hanging on both. Yeah, 97 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: absolutely in many ways, and like I wasn't allowing giving 98 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 3: myself space to show up for myself. So I wasn't 99 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,799 Speaker 3: you know, feeling the best. I wasn't performing the best. 100 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 3: I wasn't able to, you know, come into a podcast 101 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: and feel like I was being authentic and really present, 102 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: I suppose. So it looked like saying no to a 103 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 3: lot of things, No to a lot of tours, no 104 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 3: to a lot of festivals. My agents over here in 105 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: Europe and Asia thought I was mad, but it felt 106 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: terrifying but really good, And looking back on it, Yeah, 107 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: I'm so glad that I listened to is what I 108 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: really wanted, even though you know, part of me wanted 109 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 3: to just keep pushing through and be a bad bitch 110 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 3: and just make it happen, and the other part of 111 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: me and you that I wouldn't be able to keep going. 112 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: And that's okay, and there's a time and a place 113 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: for it too, you know. 114 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: I definitely also really believe in that that thing you 115 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: have to have a little bit of that. I'll sleep 116 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: when I'm dead, you know, I'm going to work myself 117 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: to the bone, Like I think, I don't know how. 118 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 2: Old are you? May I ask thirty? 119 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: Okay, ninety one baby, ninety two baby, I'm a ninety 120 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: one baby. 121 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: I love this planning on so many levels. I really 122 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: love this for us. 123 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: I feel like at this part, like in my life, 124 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to speak for you, my early twenties 125 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: was about the like club bus another club sleep, Yes, exactly, Yes, 126 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: I totally I think that there is an amount of 127 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: that that you have to have to get to where 128 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: you want to be, and you should follow it until 129 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: until absolutely you get to the point where you're like, 130 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: all right, I think I did that. Yes, what in 131 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: this day and asi and in this part of your 132 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: life is your favorite way to sort of take care 133 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: of yourself and self care for me, like bathtub is 134 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: where I live, That's where I love to be. 135 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 2: What's your vibe, what's your perfect night off? I have 136 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: a dog. He's awesome, is Lenny? Lenny? Yeah, I'm already 137 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 2: obsessed with Lenny, and so. 138 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 3: I think like one of the best things for me 139 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: to do is, you know, he needs two walks a day. 140 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 3: He's a big, energetic doggo and just getting out in 141 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 3: nature and being able to spend time with him and 142 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: move my body as well is so important. Like switch 143 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 3: your phone off, you know, just not even bring it 144 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: and just chill out. I think it's really important in 145 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: it like the day and age where we're constantly connected 146 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: to our laptops and our phones and everything's buzzing and 147 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: pinging the whole time. It's so nice to be able 148 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: to switch off and spend you know, quality time with 149 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: him and be in nature. I think it's really healing. 150 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 3: So for me, I do that, you know twice a 151 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: day at home. 152 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: That's so nice. 153 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 3: And you know, when you're in places like this, you 154 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: really miss that connection. 155 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: A little over stimulated. 156 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you will, it's a big difference when you're 157 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: because I know sometimes I have a lot of friends 158 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: who work in music, and it's actually really hard to 159 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: music after a certain point and feel that connection. Do 160 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: you still are you kind of like I do music 161 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: full time, so then when you need a break, you 162 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: have to not listen to music absolutely okay, because I 163 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: liked to I'm like music helps me wind down. 164 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: Also, it doesn't know I'm all about the rain apps, 165 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: nature app or it's just silent love a white noise 166 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: app too. But yeah, to be honest, when I'm on stage, 167 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: I love music more than anything, and I know it 168 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 3: just gives me these feels of I can't even describe. 169 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: I'm definitely meant to be there and I love it 170 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: so much. But in my personal life, I definitely think 171 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: now that I spend so much time listening to music 172 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: in the studio, creating sets, piecing things together. Like this morning, 173 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: I spent a couple of hours starting to piece together 174 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: my set for tomorrow night. I'm not in my hotel 175 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: room bopping to music because I've already listened to it 176 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: so much. So I try and find a nice balance 177 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: and you know, don't pressure myself. 178 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: Too much to be like got to listen to it 179 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: all the time. 180 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: Well, when you do when you are trying to get hype, 181 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: do you have a song that's like it's top of 182 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: your list of like I'm getting myself jacked up for something? 183 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: Pitbull? 184 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: Oh, Brazil, Morocco, London. 185 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: Amazing love that Okay, amazing. Yeah. So they're like my 186 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: commercial ton and a party go to. Yeah, I'm obsessed 187 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: with this. 188 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: Okay, So you have you seen that this trend on 189 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: social that I actually really love that I've been seeing 190 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: where someone will be like I feel like I'm not 191 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: making that enough money doing my art, and then it's 192 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: a picture of themselves as a child, and it's like 193 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: we make money doing art. 194 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: Question Mark, have you seen this? 195 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: I love these throwbacks. It's quite a few trends like 196 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: that where it's like, you know, talking about what they're 197 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 3: doing today and then it's like, oh, that girl would 198 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: be so proud of me. 199 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: There's so just hearing it. 200 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: What would be your advice to your young self about 201 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: kind of staying true to your vision. It sounds like 202 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: you've you've done so much growing and sort of adjusting 203 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: to the lifestyle that your crazy DJ lifestyle is like 204 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: intense so, yeah, what would you talk to, you know, 205 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: fifteen year old you. 206 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 3: Well, when I was fifteen, I definitely wanted to be 207 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: a DJ. I was at house parties and you know 208 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: when you'd have like a DJ at a house party, 209 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,239 Speaker 3: and I'd always be there, like annoying, the masking questions 210 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: like can I have. 211 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: A go and they'd be like get away, go away, 212 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: so annoying. 213 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: So I actually went to university to do dentistry lol, 214 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: I know, and then do that for a year and 215 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: just realized that I actually hated science. 216 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: I'd never done science before. Why would I like science? 217 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: I was, you know, doing music and art for my 218 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 3: whole of high school. 219 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 2: So I changed my degree and then. 220 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 3: Started to pursue a not a career, a hobby in DJing. 221 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: I would like to say. 222 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 3: So, what I would say to my fifteen year old 223 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 3: self was, don't doubt yourself. 224 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 2: Don't listen go to school for dentistry. Yeah, don't listen 225 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 2: to those teachers. 226 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: But I think it's it's so special that you, at 227 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: such a young age had that instinct and you you know, 228 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: did the work that you had to do and followed 229 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: the path that you had to follow to allow yourself 230 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: to then in the end be like, this is really 231 00:09:58,640 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: where I want to be. 232 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, really exciting. Thanks, You've provided me with some nice 233 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 3: inside there. Yeah, I appreciate that. 234 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm here for. 235 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: Sister. 236 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: Okay, you're a huge animal rights activist, yeah, which we love. 237 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: So you have your dogo obviously, Yeah. How important is 238 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: it to you, uh to have shall I say, like 239 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: a cause? So like my mom said to me when 240 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: I was twenty one and I was signing my record deal, 241 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: and she like, I signed my this big, exciting major 242 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: label record deal and basically the week after she was like, cool, 243 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: So what's your thing? 244 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: What's your cause? What are you going to use? 245 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: Like, now that you have a platform, now that you 246 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: have an opportunity, you have to use it for a 247 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: good instead of evil. How did you actively be like 248 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: I have to do something, you know, to heal the world? 249 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: Was does it just happen organically? Like told me about 250 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: this part of your life. 251 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: It definitely happened organically, And I didn't really realize how 252 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 3: important it was until I found it and then realized that, 253 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 3: you know, you do have to have a passion for 254 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: something other than yourself. 255 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, And like apparently it's not cute to be selfish. Yeah, 256 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: who knew? 257 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: So when I was like three or four, I remember 258 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: so clearly this one Christmas Eve we were sitting down 259 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: for Christmas dinner, and I don't know why, but there 260 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 3: was like summer version. I didn't want to eat the meat, 261 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: and my parents like, you've got to eat your dinner. 262 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: It's Christmas. And I was like, so I just like 263 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: pretended to eat it and then like spat it on 264 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 3: the floor. 265 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: I got in so much trouble, and I remember moms. 266 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 3: I was like, I just want to be a vegetarian, 267 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: because being a vegan wasn't a thing back then. And 268 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 3: she was like, when you're older and you want to 269 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: cook for yourself, you can do that. And I was like, 270 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: fair cool, you have three kids, Yeah you also wet. 271 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 3: She's like, literally make a meal for yourself then, babe, absolutely, 272 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: I would have been living on cereal. I actually kind 273 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: of came back around to it and I thought, you 274 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 3: know what, I'm gonna maybe try and cut out all 275 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: this stuff from my diet. And then I realized that 276 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 3: I wanted to do that such a long time ago. 277 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 3: And then as soon as I made some changes personally, 278 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,479 Speaker 3: in my life. I felt a massive shift physically, energetically, 279 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 3: and then started to. 280 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 2: Think there's got to be more to this, like what 281 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 2: is this? 282 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 3: And then I started to look into the animal rights 283 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: perspective and what actually happens. And I was horrified, obviously, 284 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 3: because we're so sheltered. Like you ask the average person 285 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 3: how many animals do you think it killed a year, 286 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 3: they'd be like, oh, I don't know a million, No. 287 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: It's seven billion, Like it's insane. 288 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: Well, in the environmental aspect of it alone, you know, 289 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: one of the biggest contributors to green huh skass on 290 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: the planet is methane from cow factory farm me so. 291 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: Totally, and everywhere I looked there was like no negative. 292 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 3: I was like, you're saving animals, you're saving people, you're 293 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 3: saving the environment, you're saving your body. 294 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: I was like, this is amazing. 295 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: And so then I started speaking out about it and 296 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 3: it was met with some resistance on my DJ Tiger 297 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: Lily kind of page. And you know, people are pretty 298 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 3: especially Australians, they don't like to be told what to 299 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: do or what to think. 300 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: You know, it can be something for you that you 301 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: want to speak about because it's changed your life and 302 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: not everybody has to get. 303 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 2: On board totally. 304 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 3: And so I realized I needed to create a safe 305 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 3: space for myself where people who wanted to listen could listen, 306 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 3: and so I created like another account on Instagram. It's 307 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 3: called Ousehole Purpose and nice talk lots about it there. 308 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 2: That's your vegan that's your vegan profile. 309 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And I do some really cool collabse with 310 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: like vegan and sustainable brands and we donate all the 311 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,599 Speaker 3: money to animal sanctuaries and things like that in Australia. 312 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: So changing the world but a little step at a time. 313 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 314 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: More on Unfiltered the JBR podcast after a quick break 315 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: and now. 316 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: Back to the show. 317 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I want to talk more about your music, Yeah, 318 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: because that's what we're here for. Yeah, you got into 319 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: music young. 320 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: You were fifteen, younger, way younger. Oh my gosh, how 321 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 2: old were you here? 322 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 4: Four? 323 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: Four years old is when you started being like music 324 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: is my thing? Yeah? Did they make you play an instrument? 325 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 3: They put me into piano school, but it was music school, 326 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 3: so it was like percussion, singing, composition writing, all that 327 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: kind of stuff, And yeah, I loved it and just 328 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 3: did it and then in high school picked up guitar 329 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: and trombone. 330 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're a bono. I love myself a boner. 331 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: I can't even tell you. I love my the trombone section. 332 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: I went to all performing our high school and always 333 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: all the boys in the trombone section. 334 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: I was like, these are my dudes. Yeah. 335 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: Honestly, when I first went to like the first day 336 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: of my school opening, the band played Lassis trombone, which 337 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: is you know where the trombones are featured, and I 338 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 3: go to, mom, I'm playing that instrument. 339 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: They were the show today. That's going to be me, 340 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: that's me. I love the sphere. I didn't play that 341 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: song again. No, then you're just in the back of 342 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: the time. You're like, I've made the baseline. 343 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 3: But I loved it, and I did like extension music 344 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 3: for my HC, which for everyone listening is like the 345 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: most music you can do, yes, possible in Australia, and 346 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: always wanted to pursue a career in music, but once 347 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: again was told that I should probably go into something. 348 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: Are you really going to do? 349 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 4: Well? 350 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your real job going to be? What was 351 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: the moment for you? 352 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: Then, like, obviously music has been this huge through line 353 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: through your entire life. Yeah, do you remember a moment 354 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: where you were like, holy shit, I'm really doing it. 355 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your moment. 356 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 3: So there was this club that I used to go 357 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: to called Soho and was in King's Cross in Sydney, 358 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: and I used to party there a lot and loved it. 359 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: And then maybe three months later I did this DJ 360 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 3: competition called Your Shot, which in Australia like teaches young 361 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: kids how to play. You've got like a six week 362 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: intensive training program and then you kind of have to 363 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: dj off like perform against one another. And I came 364 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 3: second in that, and my prize for that was a 365 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: residency at Soho. So like full circle, I know, so 366 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: like I had this memory of this wow moment playing 367 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 3: my first set at Soho, shitting bricks by the way, 368 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 3: I was so nervous and thinking just months ago, weeks ago, 369 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: even I was in the crowd and now I'm up 370 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: here and just having this moment of I used to 371 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 3: look up and think that's all I want to do. 372 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: And now you're doing it. 373 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: I was doing it, Wow, probably pretty terribly, but I 374 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: was doing it and it's amazing, and I like give 375 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 3: thanks to my younger self a lot for having the 376 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: confidence to go out there and get that because. 377 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: Maybe now I'm I don't know, don't know if I 378 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: would be. So isn't that determined. 379 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: When I was? When I was a young person, I 380 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: remember having so much unearned confidence. Yeah, and I've had 381 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: actually like a retroactive realizing what insecurity feels like, being like, 382 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: is this the thing I haven't been feeling I've had 383 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: in my entire life? Just like no thoughts, just vibing 384 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: my way through my twenties and now I hit thirty and. 385 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, she was really bold. I love that 386 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: for her. 387 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: I used to walk into clubs pre being able to 388 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: mix and would say, Hi, I'm a DJ. 389 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: Can I play here? Can I speak to the manager? 390 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: Cool Vibe? 391 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 3: Would get business cards, would have all these emails. I'd 392 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 3: email them being like Hi, can I play? And They're like, yeah, 393 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 3: send me through a mixtape, And of of course I 394 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 3: didn't have a mixtape. 395 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: I've never dj'ated in my life. 396 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: I think I just wanted to see if I could 397 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 3: get a gig, and I obviously could, so like, Wow, 398 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 3: that's cozy, that's so amazing. 399 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: You really did that. I'm proud of you, thank you. Yes. 400 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: Something that I think about all the time is I 401 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: am putting this music out, I am showcasing this part 402 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: of myself. I have to think about what I how 403 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm expressing myself, what it says about me. What do you, 404 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: Tiger Lily, want your music to express about you? What 405 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: do you want people to feel when they experience it. 406 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 3: I've always just wanted my music to be fun, love 407 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 3: that and Enjoyableok, yeah, totally. I feel like there's lots 408 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 3: of amazing you know, writers who write ballads about you know, 409 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: love and breakups and you know, the world ending and things. 410 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 3: And I've just always wanted my music to be fun 411 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 3: because you know, in the clubs, you know, that's what 412 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: I'm there to do. I'm there to entertain people, I'm 413 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 3: there to read the crowd, and so I've always kind 414 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 3: of wanted my music to be about that. 415 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,239 Speaker 1: So I feel like you're at this place in your 416 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: life where you are like taking care of your sophomore. 417 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: This feels like you're in a really good place. What 418 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: would you say to people who are sort of trying 419 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: to find themselves, find their authentic path and expression, And 420 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: it's a lot of trial and error, like what would 421 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: you say to them? 422 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 3: I think just really looking, like taking the time to 423 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 3: be quiet and by yourself and looking inside and really 424 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 3: thinking about the person who you are, but then also 425 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 3: the person you want to be. 426 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: So I think about the. 427 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 3: Person that I'm maybe having an interaction with and what 428 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 3: type of experience you want to have from spending time 429 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 3: with me. And I think that that's really important because 430 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 3: if I want you to get the vibe that I'm 431 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 3: kind and authentic and you know, energetic, let's say, then 432 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 3: if I'm thinking about that, then I'm really going to 433 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 3: focus on being the best version of myself. So I 434 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 3: think thinking about how you want other people to experience 435 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 3: your energy is really important as well. 436 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: Especially as an artist too. 437 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: I think that's a huge part of what you do 438 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: when you get on stage or you know, you get 439 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: behind in the booth in front of all of these people, 440 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: You're like, okay, I have to create the vibe. Yeah, absolutely, 441 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: You're setting a tone, and not everybody can do that. 442 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 1: Not everybody has that kind of control. Do you have 443 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: this thing? I have a little bit of a thing 444 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: where I especially I feel like as a woman, this 445 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: is ingrained in us. Yes, I feel very like I'm 446 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: going to do the nice thing and just say because 447 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: I want to make everybody feel comfortable and safe. That's 448 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: like a huge part of I think my brand is 449 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: to be like, you're safe with me, everything's cool here. 450 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: And I've started to now again ninety one ninety two babies. 451 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: That's the point in my life where I'm like, ooh, 452 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: would it be super sick if not everybody thought I 453 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: was the nicest person one hundred percent of the time. 454 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: Maybe it's fine, Maybe it's okay for me to be 455 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: like I know that I. 456 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: Know that I'm a nice person. 457 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that I take care of my friends, 458 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: and that I'm generous and kind and funny, and I 459 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: know all of these things about myself. An eight second 460 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: interaction with a stranger at an inconvenient time doesn't have 461 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: to be the thing that I like, hang my hat 462 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: on and live or die by You're good. 463 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 3: I still get pretty guilty about that. Like if I've 464 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 3: done like one hundred photos of people and then like 465 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 3: I'm running out and I really need to do away 466 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 3: or something, and someone's like, oh, kind of another photo, 467 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I mean I too, I follow you. 468 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: I still I try to say, you know, I'll always 469 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: try to be nice to everybody, but I think. 470 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: It's but I get what you mean. Yeah, you need 471 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 2: to be in my. 472 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: Life where I'm like, I'm trying to be efficient, I'm 473 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: trying to save time. I'm a business person now, like 474 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: we're trying to build global empires, sister, absolutely, and we're 475 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: out here being like, I don't have time to waste 476 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: what stuff's on to you? I'm a libra, what are you? 477 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 2: I'm an airy? Oh I'm air and you're fire. So 478 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: we create we create some heat together. 479 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I need to take a lesson from you by 480 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 3: probably doing that a little bit more because I reckon. 481 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: I'm probably still, you know, a bit hung up on that. 482 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's hard learning. I understand it's really hard. 483 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: But I think I'm there's something that's really cool. I 484 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: think I value my toughness, and I think, especially for you, 485 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: I can imagine being in this business that is so 486 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: male dominated, that is so chauvinistic, and especially in Australia, 487 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: where I have experienced more sexism in Australia than I 488 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: have in America. That's my personal you know, absolarience. Yeah, 489 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: I think it's cultural, you know, and I don't want 490 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: to you know, generalize, but you know what I mean. 491 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely agree with you. 492 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: I think there you have to be a little bit 493 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: of a tough bitch, right, I'm sure that you've your 494 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,239 Speaker 1: skin is thicker than it was ten years ago, and 495 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: you've had to arrive at this place to be like, no, 496 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: I'm I've had to claw. 497 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: My way to where I am. Like, I'm not giving 498 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: this up for anything. I know who who I am. 499 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: So it's funny that I value my toughness, but then 500 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: also am like trying to be the sweet little flower 501 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: that everybody can be. 502 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: You know. 503 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: It's like so nice. Yes, it's all about balance my 504 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: libra energy. But I think it's cool. I think it's 505 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: good to like to value that part of yourself and 506 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: to be like, no, I'm a tough bitch. That's sick vibes. 507 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: And this is what I want and this is what 508 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to do. Cool vibe. 509 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: Speaking of that, Yes, the sort of patriarchy, if you will, Yes, 510 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: I want to know. You know, we're keeping it light 511 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: and fun and authentic hashtag authentic hashtag. 512 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 2: JBL hashtag flying and fun. 513 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 1: But I want to sort of gauge a little bit 514 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: of your experience of I think with social media, musicians, actors, 515 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: and other public figures, especially those were women are constantly 516 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: given an opinion about the way we look about the 517 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: way That's a huge factor, I'm sure, especially also in 518 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: night life that you've probably had to experience or deal with. 519 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: Can you share about your experience that puts you in 520 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: this like kind of spooky like I must be hot, 521 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: We're all limelight, Like, I mean, you are a harder 522 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: if I may, if I may be so hark girl 523 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: sitting next to me, But like, do you feel kind 524 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: of pressure or sort of put in a box about it? 525 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: Do you feel like it's something that people really remark 526 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,719 Speaker 1: on all the time, Like does it make you annoyed? 527 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: Are you like, yes, I'm hot, like loving this for me? 528 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: Where are you at? 529 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 3: A bit of all the bit of all of that. Absolutely, 530 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 3: there's definitely pressure to look good. Like you look at 531 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 3: all the female DJs in the world and they are 532 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 3: all smoke shows, they are all super hot, and I'm like, 533 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 3: that's not a coincidence, Like what's going on? So then 534 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 3: I definitely think there's pressure to want to look good 535 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 3: and feel good but for me, I already have that 536 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 3: pressure on myself, and it's not physical, it's mental. When 537 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 3: I'm rutual fit and my skin's glowy and I've slept 538 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 3: well and I'm eating good, that's when I feel the best. 539 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: You're like, look at me, go totally, that's my friend. Absolutely, absolutely. 540 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 3: So I think for me, I don't mind as much 541 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 3: because I know with or without the expectation, I would 542 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 3: do it anyway. 543 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: That's a human That's a huge part of it. Maybe, yeah, 544 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: I think so. 545 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: I think I I'm on the opposite spectrum where if 546 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: nobody was watching me, I probably wouldn't. I'm so such 547 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: a personality, queen, do you know what I mean? And 548 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: so it's been a long journey to arrive at being like, 549 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: oh this, it does make me feel better when I 550 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: take care of myself. Yeah, I love she loves to 551 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: be in the gym and feel like I'm strong and 552 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm taking care of my body and putting that time 553 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: and effort in. And so I think you arriving at 554 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: a place where you're like, yes, people expect something from me, 555 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: but I actually do this for me and not for 556 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: everybody else. It's probably a huge factor of what makes 557 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: it really healthy and really like useful to you. 558 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: Which makes easy. Yeah. 559 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 3: I think one thing that does annoy me is that 560 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 3: people always say, oh, you're so pretty or whatever, and 561 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: then they say, oh, I saw you perform last night. 562 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 2: You're such a great DJ. That was such a great set. 563 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: How much do you love that? 564 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 3: Like, did you think that I've not had like a 565 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: twelve year career and still going strong and like I'm 566 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 3: not good? Yea, Like did you think I was bad? 567 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 3: Do you think I was just pressing play on a 568 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 3: pre recorded set? 569 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: When people are. 570 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: Shocked when they're like, oh my god, wait, you're actually 571 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: really good, the surprise and your voice needs to go, it's. 572 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: Like such a backhanded compliment or actually saying genuinely that 573 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 3: I'm good. So I appreciate that, but like the real 574 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 3: surprise is. 575 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: Like implication is that they had, yes, they had no 576 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: idea that you could actually like turn it up. 577 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 3: So that's really frustrating. But I think that that is 578 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: not just the thing in the music industry, I reckon 579 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 3: that's for women everywhere. Imagine like a super stunning surgeon 580 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 3: walks in and she's like, let's go, and the guys 581 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: would be like, oh, immediately. 582 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: Makes a different judgment about her because she looks a certains. 583 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: A certain way, and that's something that's always frustrated me. 584 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 3: If you're confident and beautiful physically and like you know, 585 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 3: it doesn't necessarily need to look a certain way because 586 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 3: you know, there are so many different elements of beauty. 587 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 3: People think that your Darmond can't do something well well in. 588 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: Being beautiful as an energy, right, Like I really totally, 589 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 2: And that's what I was trying to snatch. 590 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: Like I think that, I think that, or of course 591 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: genetics are a blessing, of course, but like I find 592 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,239 Speaker 1: that when I feel my most beautiful is when I'm 593 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: shining from the inside and then people are like, you 594 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: look pretty today, and I'm like, I had the same 595 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: face when I was hungover and tired and jet lagged 596 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: and didn't have a beautiful energy because I. 597 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 2: Didn't feel like myself. 598 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely, So I think there is such a light from 599 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: inside of us that you can project and especially it's 600 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: like sounds like you really tapped into and that's the 601 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: thing that people experience, They feel your energy when they're 602 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: with you. How do you deal with like hashtag haters, 603 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: hashtag trolls. I mean, it's like such a does it 604 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: really actually bother you? Or are you at a place 605 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: where you're like, fuck the haters. 606 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: I'm good. I couldn't careless. 607 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 3: Okay, that's awesome, but I was hoping that careless like vibe, 608 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 3: it's just like block, go away out of it. 609 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: I tend to laugh. 610 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: Because I think it's I think people drag it like 611 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: people saying mean things makes me laugh because I maybe 612 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: I have enough self love to realize that it's it 613 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: shouldn't get past like the outer amah. You know, it's 614 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: like we can all laugh about this together. And I 615 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: think that's you sound like you have a good You're 616 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: like whatever, get out of here. 617 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 3: My favorite thing on Instagram is when people I follow 618 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 3: call out haters. Yes, and they don't hide their name, 619 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 3: they don't hide anything, and they just ruthlessly going And 620 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 3: I actually, I think, you know, like I would never 621 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 3: do it, because this is me being. 622 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: That nice girl. 623 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, too scared to do that, but like me too, 624 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 4: don't having these people, and so they should because these 625 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 4: people have come at them publicly, because Instagram is pretty 626 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 4: public saying these awful things, and so that's. 627 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: My favorite thing to watch the tea on Instagram. 628 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: Something that I love that you do also is that 629 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: you have made it a point I feel like to 630 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: partner specifically with inclusive clothing brands which as somebody who 631 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: necessarily can't you know, probably could fit into a lot 632 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: of different clothing, to actively use your platform and voice 633 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: to exclusively work with brands who want to create a 634 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: safer space for women in fashion feel and. 635 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 3: Not just women, like women and men and everyone like 636 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 3: this out that I'm wearing at the moment. 637 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 2: It's from Camilla, which is an Australian designer. 638 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,479 Speaker 3: Amazing, and she does stuff that's so inclusive and is 639 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 3: always thinking outside the square. She does of cop a 640 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 3: lot of hate that she's like not doing it well enough, 641 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 3: but she's giving it a go and I really appreciate that. 642 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 2: And I think that that's really cool totally. 643 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: I feel like so many things. First of all, I 644 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: feel like we're best friends now, say he so much 645 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: and I'm obsessed with us. Thank you so much for 646 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: joining me here at JBL. First, this is actually my 647 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: first in person interview for this is the only one 648 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: all seasons, so. 649 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 2: That's really that's creating special Thanks Australia. Yeah, of course, 650 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 2: thanks for being here. Amazing. Have loved chatting to you all. 651 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: The questions have been amazing. Yeah, energy's great. I appreciate it. 652 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 2: And we're going to party like it's nineteen ninety nine tonight. 653 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: Sounds great. 654 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: Thank you so much again to Tiger Lily for joining 655 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: me at JBL Fest. You are so talented and bring 656 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: so much beautiful joy and energy and light to your 657 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: fans and now also me and us here at JBL Fest. 658 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: It is crazy to say it, but that is it 659 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: for our first season. 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