1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:06,119 Speaker 1: You need more culturely in tune podcast It's up. 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: He can talk for seventeen hours and interview focus. 3 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 3: Yo, welcome to another episode of It's Up there podcast. 4 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 3: You know, the vibration is high. I'm big home and everywhere, 5 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 3: every city, every state. I appreciate everybody that's watching. 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: Listen. 7 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 3: If you need more content, you know where to meet 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: me at. The vibes is on Patreon. We got discord. 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: We got very high vibrations over there. That's where you 10 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 3: talk to me. That's what when I go live, you 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 3: get a chance to interact, send me things to speak about, 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 3: react to. It's just a vibe. So come to patreon 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: dot com for the vibes today. Man, we got somebody 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 3: I really couldn't wait to speak to. You know, it's 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 3: a lot of people in this game. Let me make 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: sure I fuck this because this is this is popping 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: and I don't like that. 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: So hold on, all right, look real attractive, you know 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: self taught is attractive. Don't do it to them being 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: I told you to do it. Break they fucking. 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: Next step better quick playing with this? 22 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: Sh yes, lord, But in this culture, man, you know, 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 3: I spread my wings and I speak to the people 24 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: that's this dynamic. You know, I think that today we 25 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: got somebody that my audience are enjoyed, and I think 26 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: her audience are also enjoyed this conversation. 27 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 2: Today we got Ajna. 28 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: Yes, Ajna Sarah, I appreciate that. 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: What does the internet know you. 30 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: By Ajna Sarah? Okay, yeah, they call me Queen Ajna. 31 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: My community called me Queen Ajna. It wasn't me myself. 32 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: They deemed me queen, so they referenced me as queen agnaw. 33 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: But it's a lot of new people, Like a lot 34 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: of people are finding their way here. So I'm Asna 35 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: Sarah the Healing Place dynasty. 36 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: Tell me where you call yourself? 37 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: That why I was given the name Osna Surah after 38 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: I had to experience some things and I went on 39 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: the spiritual journey and I was given another name, and uh, 40 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: life just. 41 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the spiritual journey. 42 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: Life is a spiritual journey. Life. Life is always a journey. 43 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: You know you live through it. 44 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: That's beautiful. 45 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all kind of shit that be happening. So like, 46 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: what what specific? Because I feel like I'm on my 47 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: fourth life in this life. 48 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: So let's get to the let's. 49 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: Get to the fourth life in it's life. 50 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I want to know you because you know, 51 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people see you talk online 52 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 3: and they don't know what's going on behind your eyeballs. 53 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: They don't need to, They don't. 54 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: Need to know that. 55 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: No, because you know, familiarity breeds disrespect. So you can 56 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: stay over there, get what God allows me to share 57 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: with you and the rest it's just if it's not yours, 58 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: you ain't got to be mad about it, because you 59 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: know the Creator is generous through me. You'll get plenty. 60 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: Do you think that that there's other young girls like you? 61 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 3: I think that may be right. So how do they 62 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 3: how do they get the voice you got? Like, how 63 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 3: do they get the courage to standing on that whatever 64 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 3: they believe in or speak on the things they may 65 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: have been through. 66 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: Just go through it, and as you go through it, 67 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: whatever type of shit that you're growing through, because so 68 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: many of us just go through things, and then you 69 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: get the choice to grow through things. And the moment 70 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: that you begin to grow through it, you realize that 71 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: is shit and you get offended by it initially, But 72 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: the more that you commune with the Creator because there's 73 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: fellowship and suffering, and the more that you get to 74 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: know God and God gets to know itself through you, 75 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: you realize that it's fertilizer. And you go from asking 76 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: the creator like why you let them shit on me? 77 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: To just being grateful for your experiences and then you 78 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: grow through your shit and through the process you get 79 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: a voice. And I don't know if yours will sound 80 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: like minds, so it won't be like this, but it'll 81 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: be yours right. 82 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: And you know, have you always spoke out? Have you 83 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: always been someone to voice your opinion? 84 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: It depends. Even even in my in my youth, it 85 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: just wasn't always convenient for me to have a voice. 86 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: So the more mature that I got, the more that 87 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to use it because it was always powerful thing. 88 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: People always repeated what I said, They always asked me 89 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: to say things. They always wanted to have a conversation 90 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: with me. Even as a young young girl, adults would 91 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: want to talk to me, and it had you know, 92 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: it's twofold because everything has a dark underbelly, but people 93 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: have always wanted to hear from me. So I think 94 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: that that's where the voice comes from. It's always been there. 95 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: I don't think I think. I don't think I've never 96 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: not had it. 97 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 3: It's dope. I think it's dope to hear, and I 98 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 3: believe that with me. I watch you, You watch me what 99 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: you're looking at? 100 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: I look at you know. 101 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 3: I try to receive the things that you that you 102 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 3: place a the universe. Okay, no, I'm in bluetooth mold. 103 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: So for me, it's just important to get around those 104 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: or just not just things from other people. Because I 105 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 3: give so much. I pour so much out, you know, it. 106 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: Inspires you to pour it out like you pour it out. 107 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: I think they need me out there. 108 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they can be so unworthy, so you still 109 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: give it to them when they're unworthy of it. 110 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: And they unworthy of it now because if I'm being honest, 111 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: they don't pay me enough to do what I've done. 112 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: Say that, then, right, what I've done to my reputation? Right, 113 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: what I've done to the visibility of myself. I've been 114 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 3: overexposed by way of trying to give things to the culture. 115 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, They've now been able to 116 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 3: identify me in places that I would have been unknown in. 117 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: And privacy is so much power. Like you to expose 118 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: yourself to that capacity, and it is deeper than the 119 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: bad because you can get money in other ways and 120 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: still keep yourself to yourself. Yes, so in the name 121 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 1: of the culture, please allow me to extend my gratitude. 122 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: We thank you for you. 123 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. 124 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: Thank you. 125 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. 126 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 3: I think watching you, I see your last thing that 127 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: I actually saw you were speaking about mothers and sons. 128 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a very very heated topic. It is because. 129 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 3: Oftentimes when I sit in the room by myself, I 130 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 3: say that a mother doesn't have the tools to raise us. 131 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: So I can relate to that not raised up, I 132 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: think that mothers. 133 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: If I may go ahead, No, that's what this is for. Okay, 134 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: this is healthy building. 135 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: I would like for women to consider this. The mother's 136 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: love is the foundation, and you may not be able 137 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: to build the house, but you can set a hell 138 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: of a foundation. You can make sure ain't no cracks 139 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: in the foundation. You can make sure that no matter 140 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: what the construct of the house becomes. And if it's 141 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: a tornado that comes through and burns it, blows it 142 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: up or blows it away, or a fire that burns 143 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: it down, you can make sure that you set something 144 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: in your son's that his foundation is sure, like I 145 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: can lose this shit a million times and get it 146 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: back a million times because my foundation. And that's what 147 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: I think that women underestimate our power of the foundation. 148 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: So we go into areas that are not our expertise 149 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: and we try to build the house. And it's the 150 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: father that is the construction worker to that capacity, that 151 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: builds the construct, that assists him with the social construct 152 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: of the society as a man, specifically exclusively if he's 153 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: a black man in America. It is the father that 154 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: builds that, that does that construction work. But you are 155 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: the foundation and lean into that, like leaning all the 156 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: way into. 157 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: That, I think, you know, And that's what I think 158 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: with the with the father, he has to teach him 159 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: how to interface with the world because it's passionate as 160 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: the mother is as reasonable as she is, you know, 161 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: as much as she's willing to do form sacrifice for him. 162 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: I still think that it's it's like putting putting makeup 163 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 3: on in a in a dim lit room. You see 164 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. The room is not lit enough for 165 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: you to really know and see exactly what you're doing. 166 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: But you know I'm doing something I know I got 167 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 3: the same tools they say he need. They say he 168 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 3: needs to know how to survive. They say he need 169 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: to know how to stand up for itself, be true 170 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 3: to his word, be a man to the woman's in 171 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: his life, to the women in his life. 172 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: He needs to be able to know. 173 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: So I got these things in my toolbox as I 174 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: approach my son, and I'm trying to pour these things 175 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 3: into him. But it's direction is interface that he has 176 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: to know what to do with those tools when he 177 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: get to the job site, you know. 178 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: And sometimes I worry about that, you know. 179 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: I think especially with black boys, I know, the mothers 180 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: want to give them a lot, you know, they want 181 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: to give them everything they got, and sometimes it's. 182 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: Just from guilt. A lot of times it's from guilt. 183 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: A lot of times because of the way we've handled 184 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: their fathers. We try to overlove them because we didn't 185 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: experience the love that we wanted to experience by their father. 186 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: So's you get your own mini version if you had 187 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: that kind of relationship. Now, the dichotomy of that is this, 188 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: some mothers hate their sons because they hate their fathers. 189 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: So it can work both ways. And imagine growing up 190 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: in a home where you and your siblings have different fathers, 191 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: and your mother resented your father, but she loved your 192 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: brother's father, and she's not with either one of them. 193 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: Neither one of them wanted or asked for whatever reason, 194 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: neither one of them. They're not together. So now we 195 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: have civil and rivalry on a different level, because that 196 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: causes an issue amongst brothers, because you treat the brother 197 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: that you hate his father like you hate his son too. 198 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: You look at his son with contempt and resentment, and 199 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: the child's father that you still have love for or 200 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: may still be in love with, you will handle that 201 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: child differently. And some women say, well, I would never 202 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: do that. Okay, I hear you clearly. I totally comprehend 203 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: why that can be triggering for you. What I love 204 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: with you for you to consider is this, Your children 205 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: are your clearest mirror if you're really ready to see yourself. 206 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: Just in case you find yourself in that predicament, ask 207 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: your children do they feel like you treat them differently? 208 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: And if the one that feels like you treat them 209 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: so far, how do you feel about their father? That 210 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 1: can be a personal algorithm that you run within yourself. 211 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: Just as a mother, keeping in mind, you set the foundation. 212 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: So even if you have something that you need to 213 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: grow through and work through, because you have resentment through 214 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: your children for your experiences with their fathers. 215 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: And that's why I think with when we talk about 216 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: you know, the woman raising the boy, is that that 217 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 3: those emotional triggers are still very much uncontrollable in a 218 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: lot of instances. And so when you leave with that, 219 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 3: right you can get off the phone with the father 220 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: and now look at the sun and see him through 221 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 3: the son and say some some things based out of 222 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 3: emotion that you apologize for. 223 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: King unsay that shit, it's. 224 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: Your fifteen time apologizing for that. You done brought him 225 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: in the room, so you know, I shouldn't have said 226 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: that to you. I'm sorry about that. I overreacted your 227 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 3: father pissing me off. 228 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: So there, King, I have a question for you for 229 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: the women that may find themselves in that predicament and 230 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: they're losing their sons. And you don't even realize as 231 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: a mother that you're losing your son escessially, especially if 232 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: he's in the other room right you don't realize how 233 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: far he can be away from you in the prison 234 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: of your house and the resentment of your rules. Because 235 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: he's in the other room, you think he's close, but 236 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: he far because he heard what you said about his daddy, 237 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: and now growing into manhood, he has a different perspective 238 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: of his father, and he sees you in a way 239 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: that you refuse to see yourself. So, if there's a 240 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: woman out there that is desiring to see herself so 241 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: that she can be better and change herself, what recommendation 242 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: would you love for her to consider on approaching a son, 243 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: if there's even anything that she can do at this point. 244 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 3: Well, first I will probably tell her that you cannot 245 00:12:55,760 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 3: build a Skyt's grape bone on sand. Okay, So as 246 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 3: you spoke to foundation, you gotta be gentle in the words, 247 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 3: because again, the same way you can breathe life, you 248 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: can destroy life. Yes, you know, the woman can breathe 249 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: life into a son. She can damn them, make him 250 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: delusional with the kind of love she can possess and 251 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 3: give to him. She can make him believe he may 252 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 3: be capable of things that he never saw dumb period, 253 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 3: But she can also tap him down because as he 254 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 3: looks at her for that love and that that that 255 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 3: that building up, that she sometimes exhibits right, excuse the 256 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 3: excuse the relationship with those downsides. Yeah, because now when 257 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 3: you show me that, I believe that now somebody faking, 258 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 3: somebody lying. 259 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 2: You don't love me, like something's going on, and I don't. 260 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. Man. 261 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: I think for a woman in that position, she gotta 262 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 3: be gentle with her, she gotta be gentle with a word. 263 00:13:55,200 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so not just gentle if I would add something. So, 264 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: men feel things that you don't think that they feel 265 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: just because they didn't respond the way that you would 266 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: respond from feeling it. And there is an epidemic, a 267 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: pandemic of men that be in a different type of feeling, 268 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: They feel differently. This is not for y'all. This is 269 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: for real niggas. Only were always talking to the real ones. 270 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: This is the real ones under the sound of my voice, 271 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: the real ones under the sound of my voice. You'll 272 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: know it because you feel it. Isn't you. I'm talking 273 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: to you. I'm talking to you those of you who staying. 274 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: Don it. Yes, when even when you want to do 275 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: something else, even when it would be easier to be 276 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: a fuck nigga, you just stand, don't it, and you 277 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: eat that I'm talking to you, Lord. We need y'all 278 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: and this is for you. So, Kings, if you are 279 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: dealing with resentment against your mothers, I would love for 280 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: you to consider this. We know we'd be having it 281 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: fucked up bad times and we don't know what to 282 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: do about it. So I would love for you, if 283 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: the opportunity unveils itself, just tell her what she can 284 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: do about it, because sometimes we don't know how to 285 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: be of service as mothers after we've made a mess 286 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: of our sons. So, for example, I have a son 287 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: in his twenties and we've navigated through a really rough 288 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: spot and now he's like letting me in and having 289 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: grace for me, grace in areas where I didn't even 290 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: know that I needed it until he explained himself to 291 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: me as a man. And this is a bar that 292 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: he dropped on me, and it crushed me. But I 293 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: needed that because it put me back on the potter's 294 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: will to be made over again as a woman. It 295 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: changed my entire approach to men holistically. And my son 296 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: told me this when he was seventeen years old. He said, 297 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: if you really loved me the way that you said 298 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: you loved me, you would have taught me how to 299 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: survive in the situations that you were afraid of killing me, 300 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: instead of protecting me and not teaching me how to 301 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: protect myself. And that is what happens when mothers think 302 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: that they can raise men. We don't teach them how 303 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: to protect themselves the way that a man teaches a 304 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: man how to protect himself. What we do is we 305 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: coddle them, and we become this wall of security that 306 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: come crashing down when they get to smelling theyself. And 307 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: they in the eighteens and nineteens, and now he can't 308 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: live in your house no more, and you send him 309 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: out into the world unprotected. 310 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: And that's why he resents you facts because it indirectly 311 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: disrupts their understanding. 312 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: Yes, you love them so so soch. 313 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: The birth of a villain story, Like that's the birth 314 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: of a villain story. You know how a lot of 315 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: villains have complex relationships with Mommy. Yes, And it's like, 316 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: because I love to hate her. I noticed she only 317 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: did it because she yes, But if she really loved me, 318 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: you would have taught me how to protect myself. Instead, 319 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: you still. 320 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 2: Get me away from it. 321 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: You can't do that too. 322 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: And because it's gonna be things. 323 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 3: And that's what I mean, like the tools that because 324 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: that's maybe that maybe that works for a woman, maybe 325 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 3: that worked for the woman her whole life. 326 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: Well, because as a woman, that's that's the thing that 327 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: many of us are taught to do. Get somewhere safe 328 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: and sit down. That don't work for men. And a 329 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: lot of women don't realize men do not think like us. 330 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: We do not think like them. I don't care how 331 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: many dresses that you put on, whatever you call yourself, 332 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: if you are a her or them, if you don't 333 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: have a name, if you were born genetically male, I'm 334 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: telling you right now you still think different from a 335 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: genetically born woman. And this is not to offend you. 336 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: This is just to let the women know the depth 337 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: of even your friend that's gay, that seems to be 338 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: your dream goals, because that's what a lot of these 339 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: bodies look like. They look like them bodies that you know, 340 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: like trans bodies, that's what all the bodies look like. 341 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: Remember back in the day, like omafuck used to be 342 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: so bad that they either had to be genetic or 343 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: it had to be like are you even the like 344 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: are you real right? That would be like when a 345 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: man used to ask are you real? That's what basically 346 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: what he asked, because this shit too good to be true? 347 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: Did you grow it? Did your home? Are you real? 348 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: Cause if you're real, come on over here. I need 349 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: to see something, right. So all the bodies look the same, 350 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: and that's what they that's what they look like from 351 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: what I remember. But back to the subject at hand, Women, 352 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: we do not think like men, and there is nothing 353 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: that we can do to make a man think like us. 354 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: And holding men hostage and situations and being stuck in 355 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: circumstances because you want to keep reliving situations that he 356 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: don't agree with because he don't think like you like 357 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: you gotta love it or. 358 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 3: Let it go right and respect process right, respect procedure, 359 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 3: procedure because you know you will teach your son to 360 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 3: zig when he should have zagged ooh, you know, and 361 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 3: these things that put him in place him in direct 362 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: opposition of successful stories. 363 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. 364 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: And when you place him there, man, you'll be start 365 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 3: to be bitter with yourself. That's why boys like to 366 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 3: show Mama, I done it, I made it, Mama, because 367 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: she pols so much. She is distracting so much love 368 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 3: for a boy to hold him against going through certain things, 369 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 3: hold him against like hard times create me. We got 370 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 3: too many coddled men now, I think you know what 371 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: I'm saying. And that's why they click up and they 372 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: run together. It's be twenty or thirty a lot of them, 373 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 3: and that make one of them. Yeah, that's one that's 374 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 3: granddaddy and them as one of Granddaddy. 375 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. That was twelve of them 376 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: and get ten for free. It still ain't a whole 377 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: one because I seen them. I seen them. 378 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, But back to so, what were you talking about about? 379 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 3: When you've seen when I seen you on your grandma 380 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: about your son or something, What were you talking about? 381 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: That was it? 382 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: And he just allowed me the opportunity to just, you know, 383 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: be of support. So I listened to him tell me 384 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: where he feels like I got it fucked up without 385 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: interrupting him, without telling him why how old is I'm 386 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: making excuses twenty two? 387 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 3: So sometimes let's talk about this because I think this 388 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: is a good area. Sometimes I think the women allowed 389 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 3: the little boys a little too much of that, that 390 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 3: that freedom of speech press. Yeah, them little niggas got 391 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: freedom of press. 392 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 1: Now you know what, you sound like my thirteen year 393 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: old's father. 394 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. It's like that. 395 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: You let him talk too much, you let him get 396 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: too many words with you. 397 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: What is that about? 398 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: Because he's a person, he's a damn show a person 399 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: like they're my son's not my slaves. 400 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: Not slaves, but he ain't. You don't know enough to 401 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: consider things. He don't know enough to consider things right now? 402 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: Okay, put it on. 403 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 404 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: It's like how I'm gonna let the assistant coach call 405 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 3: the play. He's a person called the play. Though sometimes 406 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 3: the mother allowed him little niggas to be involved in 407 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 3: decision making. 408 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 2: What I do? So, help me understand that. 409 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: That that's his father. 410 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 3: He's supposed to be on your bump about that. Help 411 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 3: me understand the thinking behind it, because it's people. 412 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: I want to know what because he's a person, like he's. 413 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 3: Any person be involved in your decision making, per so 414 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 3: what makes that's this uninformed person? Because he's not any person, 415 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 3: but he's uninformed. You gotta make decisions with your emotions 416 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 3: absence of the decision making. 417 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: Hey, I received that. 418 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 2: So if this he's uninformed to what capacity. Okay, so 419 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 2: let's framework. 420 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: Okay, what we were speaking about was these little guys 421 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: are making decisions about things that can interrupt life, that 422 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: can aught to life. Like certain decision you're making, not 423 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 3: something like what we're eating tonight, what kind of shoes 424 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: he want to wear? 425 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: Ship, that's the only decisions I'll include. 426 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so now different dish. Yeah, so let's talk 427 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: about this. 428 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, so, so some people will allow these little boys 429 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: to be all right, let's let's play a scenario game. 430 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 3: Sun is at school. Mm hmmm, says caught with a 431 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 3: vape pin, Okay, or one of them, because this is 432 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 3: a thing now, these weed smoking pins for the little boys, 433 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 3: it's something going on. 434 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: You know what, My my twenty one year old, he'd 435 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: be he vape like like I told him, you're addicted 436 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: to this and like this I'm concerned about you. 437 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 2: Yes, this is their thing now, Like I think was blunts. 438 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: He'd be vaping like he'd be in different colors and plavvors. 439 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, this shit gonna like are you gonna calling 440 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: video dragon? 441 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 3: Like here's the key this thing. This shit is in 442 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 3: public schools, now middle schools. So now, because I try 443 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 3: to help little boys. I'm finding out that they having 444 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: veight pins at thirteen fourteen, fifteen sixteen. 445 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: So they're encountering these things and I'm. 446 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: Saying, damn, this is information. 447 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's going down. 448 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 3: Like I'm talking about one little nigga was taking me 449 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 3: to a place where I went in there and snapped 450 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 3: on the man at the store where they were coming 451 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 3: from out of school being able to go into a store. 452 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 3: We need to and by this shit home boy. 453 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: Little bitty kids. He know, they children, you know what 454 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 455 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: I'm talking about man I wanted to, you know, but 456 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: he would have he played police. 457 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 2: He played police games with. 458 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 3: Me when he was doing it, because they know I 459 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 3: refuse to play police, you know what I'm saying. 460 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: But you feel about that. 461 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 2: It's disrespectful word and it's it dead to be paid 462 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 2: for that. 463 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 3: Yes, and everything has a response and that's a process 464 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 3: to get there and we'll make sure that's handled. But 465 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 3: but there's something to be said about the atmosphere right 466 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 3: that these young boys. 467 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: In because there's, like you said, it's very few real ones, 468 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: like because a real one to think that you were 469 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: the first real one after all this time how long 470 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: has it been that he's been behaving that way with 471 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: our youth, with the youth period crazy? And it took 472 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: all of this time for you to finally show up 473 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: and do something about it. That's why we need you. 474 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: That's why. 475 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: That shit was crazy. 476 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: Now, okay, so kid get caught with a vape at school, 477 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: he come home. My thing is, now, let's say you 478 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 3: found a few vapes at the house before, so you 479 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 3: kind of thinking about, damn, the little nigga vaping. He 480 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 3: might be vapor now school call you. 481 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: That's a lot. That's a big stretch because it can't 482 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: get that far from me. 483 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 2: How coming came because he getting them through school? You 484 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: don't know, he give them. 485 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm at the school, I'm at you, I'm at the school. 486 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm one of them. 487 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: Right but but but I'm telling you, this shit is 488 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 3: becoming a bit. 489 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: What's the hypothetical because I can't relate to it. But 490 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: I want you to say that somebody out there may be. 491 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 3: Right, and and that's I'm glad you clarified that, so 492 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 3: there's no misunderstanding on your pimping, right. 493 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 2: I'm so glad. 494 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 3: But so so let's just say say a problem happens 495 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: at school, right, and you identify that may be something 496 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 3: my son has done. Let's not even say vape, but 497 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 3: that's something he may have done. Some mothers will allow 498 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 3: him knowing he and the wrong would allow him to 499 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: go back and forth with them in that scenario and. 500 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: To contend, yeah, it's not a conversation, okay, to see, 501 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: we don't have that many words. But in the event 502 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: that you're feeling something, I always encourage my sons to 503 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: express what is going on inside of you? What is 504 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: going on in your head? What are these thoughts? Where 505 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: do you feel like this thought came from? When did 506 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: you first begin to think that way? What's happening that 507 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: you're processing to this capacity. We have those type of conversations, 508 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: But I don't like stupid shit. 509 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 2: Right. 510 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: Do you think it's convenient for them to always be 511 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 3: going through something when you know, hey, I got feelings 512 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: when I'm in trouble, right, I tend to find like 513 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 3: little boys. You know what I found out as I've 514 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 3: been trying to help young men, I find out the 515 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 3: first person they do wrong is they mother. That's the 516 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 3: first person they learned to lie to, they learn to 517 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 3: run game on they tend to learn before they even 518 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 3: find a girl out here to run some shit on. 519 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 3: They've been done trick mama million times at the house, 520 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 3: they smoking out the one door, they playing the game 521 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 3: when they ain't posed to. They doing this when they 522 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 3: sneaking out, whatever it may be, they learn to for 523 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 3: next mama a little bit. But it's so much love 524 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 3: attached with Mama. She damn there blind. The world ain't 525 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 3: blind to your bullshit. 526 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: That's the fact. 527 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 3: And so when they step outside of that, that's when 528 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 3: they bumped their head on the bullshit. 529 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 2: But what I was saying was that I find it that. 530 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 3: They're able to trick their mothers, and so sometimes the 531 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: mom has an unrealistic opinion on things that their son 532 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 3: may do. Even one time I went and got a 533 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 3: girl son out of jail. We're sitting into the in 534 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 3: the courthouse and the judge is talking and he's been 535 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 3: caught with a gun in his waistband, you know, him, 536 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 3: and a dude walking. The dude got the clip, he 537 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 3: got the gun. Police come, he got the gun and 538 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,239 Speaker 3: he just freez up. They take the gun, take him. 539 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 3: I try to come help get him out. She's down there. 540 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 3: The mother is getting up there and she's saying that 541 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 3: it was the other guy followed and it was really 542 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 3: what he was doing in it, and she couldn't accept 543 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 3: the fact that. 544 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 2: My son made a head let. 545 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: That's guilt because you know, unfortunately, it's hard to see yourself. 546 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: And I say, and it's offensive to a lot of women, 547 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: And I don't say it to offend you, but if 548 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: you come to a fence, jump over a bitch. But 549 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: I want you to know this. The reason why I 550 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: say single mothers can be fuck boy factories is because 551 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: you don't see what you're doing while you are laying 552 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: the foundation, because you're too busy trying to build the home, 553 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: and the foundation is fucked up. So at his core, 554 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: he'll be out here emotional trolling on the internet, talking 555 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: about women, saying the most terrible things that you could 556 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: ever think, and you would never realize that that's you, 557 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: that's your son. You raised him. I don't know why 558 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,239 Speaker 1: he liked that, because you like that because that's who 559 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: you are, and you don't realize that your son is 560 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: acting like you. And until you get him around some 561 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: real men, he won't do anything but what he see, 562 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: so he acts like a bitch, like you, Yes, so 563 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: get him around some men. And if you don't receive 564 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: that he needs a man, because you convinced yourself that 565 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: you don't need a man, when in all actuality, you 566 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: do need a man, because if you have a real 567 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: one by your side, you wouldn't feel like you don't 568 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: need one because you know the benefit of having one. 569 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: So we go through that, which is a whole nother 570 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: you know, I want to talk about this whole other other. 571 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: But oftentimes if you refuse to see yourself because you 572 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: have to admit that you raised him, and because you 573 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: will never admit for whatever reason, that you raised him 574 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: that way and that is who he is, you deny 575 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: that the that's who he is. It's guilt, right because 576 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: what nobody around with you, m his daddy wasn't there. 577 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: It was you. You. You were there, You were the 578 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: primary focus. And not to say that there can't be 579 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: outside influences, yes, because that can be a factor, you know, 580 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: the people that you click up with in those types 581 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: of situations. But we're talking about the foundation, the core 582 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: of it. And at your core you a bitch. 583 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: Just like your mama. 584 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: You just like like your mama. 585 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you just like your mama. You're emotionally reactive, you know. 586 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 3: And sometimes man, it's so rough, it's rough, old little niggas, 587 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: because that's how they come up on that. 588 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: She can't she she's just she's a mess. Man. 589 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes we do be a mess And welcome to the 590 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: Healing Place dynasty, because that's what I do. Because life 591 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: can mess you up. 592 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: You sure can. 593 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: Because I meet personally. Men have been finding me attractive 594 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: since the age of five. That was the first time 595 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: that a man told me I was sexy. 596 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 2: Five years old. 597 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: From the age of five to thirteen, people took me 598 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: from myself. Life can fuck you up. It can mess 599 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: you up, and if you don't unfuck yourself, you're gonna 600 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: fuck them children up, specifically them boys. Being a mother, 601 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: I don't believe that absence fathers can do as much 602 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,239 Speaker 1: damage as an unhealthy present mother. I don't believe it. 603 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: Me neither. 604 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: I don't believe it. We can run the algorithm on it, 605 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: y'all can bring me back all the data. Y'all can 606 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: scratch the Internet and snipp us down and find whatever 607 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: bite sound bites. But listen, a present mother in the 608 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: life of her son that is unhealthy. It's way worse 609 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: than him not having a dad or even seeing the 610 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: wrong kind of man. Just put him in front of 611 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: a man so that he know the kind of man 612 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: he don't want to be. 613 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 3: And also women, people, children are impressionable, and so you 614 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 3: can pass off an attitude, you can pass off a spirit, 615 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 3: you know, and a lot of times we hand off this. 616 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: Negative spirit. 617 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: It's resentment. It's resentment unresolved. And a lot of times 618 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: you don't even realize that you've become resentful because you 619 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: convinced yourself that you've moved on. But this is how 620 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: you know if you resent This is how you calculate 621 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: if you have any resentment stored in your temple and 622 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: your physical body. When you hear that person's name, where 623 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: do you feel it at? That's stage one. Two. Do 624 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: you want your lick back? If you are still in 625 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: a stage where you want your lik back, you have 626 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: stored some resentment. And this don't mean let motherfuckers do 627 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: whatever to you. However, I'm not saying give them a 628 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: license to do anything to you. I'm not saying let 629 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: nobody get away with nothing. This is what I'm saying. 630 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: If you want your lick and you haven't gotten your 631 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: lick back yet and it's been a dated experience, like 632 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: some time has went by. You have built resentment and 633 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: it does something to the body when we store these 634 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: emotions in the body, unacknowledged and unresolved. So when we 635 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: talk about passing spirits, you can have that spirit of 636 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: resentment against something that his father did raise him to 637 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: be as emotional as the response you had the day 638 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: his daddy did it. Realize that he is just like 639 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: his father because you can't get it out of him, 640 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: because that's inning, and then resent him and send him 641 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: out into the world resented by his mother and the 642 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,959 Speaker 1: laughing stock of the rest of the bitch ass niggas 643 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: abounding in the population. 644 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: Right when you're helping women and. 645 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: Be everybody don't right when. 646 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 3: You're healing though, And I'm specifically asking for your perspective 647 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 3: on the women's side, because this conversation I want to 648 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 3: have is that I want to dance with the dynamics 649 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 3: of these. 650 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 2: Things, you know what with me? 651 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know sometimes I can move by some move 652 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 3: what I'm saying not often, you know, not often? 653 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 2: But what do you find has women broken? 654 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: What? 655 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 3: What mostly are the components that you see amongst women 656 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 3: that has caused for them to find themselves in the 657 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 3: broken pieces because most. 658 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: Of the time, what I've noticed specifically when women have 659 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: been like tainted, when something that got in you and 660 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: it's in you now and until you get it out 661 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: of you, it's in you. You know, until you acknowledge it, 662 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: it's in you. It's parental relationships, and that also just 663 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: works for people. Like That's why I say it's a 664 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: people thing because I a lot of men, find a 665 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: lot of men find me a safe space. And I 666 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: appreciate y'all for trusting me. Thank you kings for trusting me. 667 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 1: Because I hold your secrets. It's between me and you 668 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 1: and God, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna lay down with 669 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: it facts when it's over, when I'm gonna die with 670 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: your secrets. Baby, I'm gonna die with your secrets. Thank 671 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: you for trusting me. 672 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 3: And that spirit is that spirit need to be passed down. 673 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 3: They's passing all this other shit down. They need to 674 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 3: pass that down. 675 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of men that get at me 676 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: and they bear their hearts and their souls and I 677 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: get everything, you know, I get everything. Like a lot 678 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: of my clients, some of them are hustles. Some of 679 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: them are you know, multi millionaires, business men. Some of 680 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: them drive the school bus, some of them janitors. Like 681 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: men collectively seek me out as a safe space. And 682 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm grateful to hold space for them. I don't take 683 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 1: it for granted. And I'm gonna die with your secrets. 684 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: I mean that, But I get everything in calls. I've 685 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: gotten HIV confessions, confessions and infidelity and high profile marriages, 686 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: motherfucking murder them fashions. You'll be surprised what people say 687 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 1: when they feel safe enough to say it out loud, 688 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: like when it be on them and they got to 689 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: get it off of them. It's parental relationships for men 690 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: and women. So how you were raised, Who raised you, 691 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: if they were there, if they weren't there, How it happened. 692 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 2: What about the good girl gone bad? 693 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: Very few good girls go bad. It's already in them. 694 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: It's just a situation that grows it that shit. 695 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 3: If it ain't, it can't turn you to a monster, 696 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 3: though the game would turn you to a monster. The pathway, 697 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 3: that's why it's important, you know, to protect your daughter's 698 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 3: interests in a pathway is because man, you can raise 699 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 3: a right and just sit it down the wrong road. 700 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: It's all about introductions. But when a person's interest is peaked, 701 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: it can be peaked very young, or it can be 702 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: peaked later in life. No matter when your interest gets peaked. 703 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: But it's already in you that it'll peak your interest. 704 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Like it's already in you. So 705 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: if you're not interested in it, you won't be interested 706 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: in it. 707 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, now, what about when you're introduced 708 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 3: to it, because it's hard to be interested in the things. 709 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: I've been around so much blowing my motherfucking life. I 710 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: ain't never snorting, no line. 711 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 2: I mean neither. 712 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 3: But that's blow, and that's we have a resentment for that. 713 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 3: It's hustle, you know, I as me anyway, as a hustle, 714 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 3: I got a resentment of doing blow, of doing certain things. 715 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 3: It just don't match the outfit. It don't match that 716 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 3: I'm beyond. 717 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying, because it ain't in you. 718 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is a little different now, particularly with 719 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 3: me being a dope dealer. Most of my entire life, 720 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 3: scenarios are important, and atmosphere is important. I've saw people 721 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 3: fall victim the cocaine because of the atmosphere, right, And 722 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 3: then what happens is people think they chasing that high, 723 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 3: but they chasing that that night. It was it was 724 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 3: a whole package deal, like it was two women now 725 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 3: and it was this and I snorted it off her 726 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 3: titties and dah dah dah. There's a thing happening. And 727 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 3: that is when you get that peaked interest. And the 728 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 3: cocaine is just involved in that. So it wasn't cocaine 729 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 3: that that necessarily caused you to do that. It's that environment. 730 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 3: It's that atmosphere. And I think sometimes. 731 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 2: It can be that. I don't think. I don't know, man, 732 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 2: I think the city can turn you to a monster. 733 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: I think the situation that you were in mentally that 734 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: even allowed you to be at the party that they 735 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: was doing it like that is what the root of 736 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: it is not necessary. 737 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 2: What if you're born in La. 738 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: What if you're born in La. 739 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 3: So you're born in La, your content creator, someone like yourself. 740 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 3: You've been invited somewhere. You don't know that it's and 741 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 3: even before you and as a man. 742 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: Too, and even when you offered things, there has to 743 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: be something that triggers decision making in your mind before 744 00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: your money. 745 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 2: Okay, that is social status for what reason? 746 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: So what for what reason does poverty haunt you to 747 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: the capacity that you would be willing to make this 748 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: decision to get some. 749 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 2: Bread you ain't need. This is what I'm telling you. 750 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 3: You don't know until you there that that decision is 751 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 3: even in the in the pot. 752 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Cocaine in particularly in this. 753 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: Industry, it's something, it's something else. 754 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 2: And this is so you could be invited to a party. 755 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,879 Speaker 1: Yes, I've been invited to a lot of party. 756 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 3: Right, so let's say your life for the part, Yeah, 757 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 3: shut out to the party. 758 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 2: Right, So we go to the party. 759 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 3: Now you don't know that there's a door in the 760 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 3: party with some shit going on behind that door. You 761 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,760 Speaker 3: don't even know this facts now, you don't know until 762 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 3: you being brought behind that door. 763 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 2: Now it's all about who breaks you behind that door, And. 764 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: It's all about your personal esteem of self if you stay. 765 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 2: That's facts. 766 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: So if it's in you, it's in you. So if 767 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 1: your self esteemed lower was low before you got to. 768 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 3: The party, or we saw opper portunity to make people 769 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 3: do some some strange things. 770 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: Because opportunity can make you do some strange things if 771 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 1: you got low self esteem whole nigga. 772 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 2: You believe that. 773 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 3: I believe that, so you do. I do too, But 774 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 3: but I so why do so? We see women, in 775 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 3: particular women, we see them kind of being their morals 776 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,280 Speaker 3: to the money. 777 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: Yes, because it ain't about the money. It's about about 778 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: It's about what you think is going to come with 779 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: the money. For me, I date hustle. I have a 780 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: history of dating hustlers. It was for the protection. The 781 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 1: money just came with it, and because I've always wanted 782 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: to be trusted. I've always been the type that they 783 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: look they can smell it on me, so they know, okay, 784 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: sit yeah. Yeah. But it was for a different reason. 785 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 1: It wasn't for the money. The money was the byproduct 786 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: of it. It. Every time that I dated somebody that 787 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: wasn't that didn't have that energy, I've lived to regret it. 788 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. So you like the vibration, it's the energy. 789 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: I can smell it, which is the reason why we 790 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 1: the reason why you was able to get this interview. 791 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 1: I can smell it on you, I said, okay, all right. 792 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: One of the men I smelled it on you. 793 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 2: I could appreciate that, and I thank you for. 794 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 1: Blew your ass off at first, and you hit me back. 795 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I can smell that. 796 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 2: I appreciate you. 797 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: Here I come. I'm on my way here, I come that. 798 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 3: I appreciate that, and you one of them one. But 799 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 3: I want to build on this some more. So I 800 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 3: do think that's that's just rough for me to except man, 801 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 3: that you're thinking that that. 802 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: That you turn you to. It can't nobody make you 803 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: be something that you not. 804 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:42,479 Speaker 2: No, I ain't. 805 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: If it ain't in you, it ain't in you. Think 806 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: about it. Think about how many positions you've been in, 807 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: how many situations in your life could have been alwass nigga. 808 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 2: Right, But I take myself to be one on one. 809 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. 810 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 2: Not one on one, but one in one of one category. 811 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, it ain't a 812 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,399 Speaker 3: lot of only category that matter, That's what I'm saying. 813 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is for those guys in that category. 814 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 3: But by me operating in the streets all my life, man, 815 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,439 Speaker 3: I do just saw niggas I grew up with man 816 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 3: that I knew was hustlers. Them niggas taught me how 817 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 3: to hustle them. Niggas feel victim to that shit, man, 818 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 3: because it's in you when it was all over. 819 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:24,760 Speaker 1: Because here's the thing. 820 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 2: So, how do you maintain as this when you saying 821 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 2: you really that. 822 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: It's not that you're really that, it's you knowing how 823 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: to identify the warning signs so that you don't become 824 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: that over there. 825 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 2: Look at Franklin and Snowfall and what happened. 826 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 1: Resentment, unforgiveness, pettiness, hate, vengeance. You see what I'm saying. 827 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: When that shit get in you, when life crack you up, 828 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 1: if you don't go get your healing, anything can seep 829 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: through the cracks. Anything can seep through the crack sole Now. 830 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,720 Speaker 1: So now, because your foundation, that's right, I'm being raised 831 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,760 Speaker 1: by your mama. You gotta cracks in the foundation. Now, 832 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: you disloyal. Now you're gonna do some whole ship. 833 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 2: Now here, here's the thing, right, because you. 834 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: Grew up watching your mama do some whole shit. And 835 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: because she don't admit that she do that whole shit. 836 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,280 Speaker 1: Now she raised a whole ass it right because. 837 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 2: She justified it through you. Now Here's here's a thing. 838 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: Though, right, and my baby ain't never hurt nobody, but 839 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: it's still got smoked at baby based party easy. He 840 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: said that ship. 841 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That's gangster and that's real life. 842 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 3: That's real life. But here's the thing I'm saying, what 843 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 3: you finding. 844 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 2: People in there? Broken? 845 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,879 Speaker 3: A lot of people being broken in this world, right 846 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 3: I wouldn't call. 847 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: Them like broken. I wouldn't. And here's the thing. Life 848 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: will break you. But just because you got some and 849 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: just because you dinged up, just because you banged up, 850 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: just because you got some, you know, you got a 851 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 1: few wounds and shit, that don't mean that you're broken. 852 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: Don't mean that. 853 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 3: You're beyond if like now we're broken and beyond repairs 854 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 3: two different things. Okay, right now, if you say that 855 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 3: life can break you, by definition, you're broken. 856 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: Okay, life can't break you. So by definite, everybody that's 857 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: injured ain't broken. 858 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 2: Injured is a different thing. 859 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 1: Okay. 860 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 2: So but if right, if we're saying that life. 861 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 3: Can break you, life can break you, and I know 862 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 3: for sure it can break. 863 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: Life will break you down like a lawn chair. 864 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 3: So that speaks to your foundation that was one solid, 865 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 3: but life has creeped in and. 866 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: Broken, and now you got some choices to make. 867 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,399 Speaker 3: And now these things seep through that foundation that once 868 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 3: was so solid, and now you find comforting that one 869 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 3: night on that. 870 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 2: Coke in l A. 871 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: That's dangerous. 872 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 3: I know it's dangerous. But you're chasing that foundation you 873 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,479 Speaker 3: once had. I understand, right, And so it ain't that 874 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 3: that that that's who you are. You just searching for 875 00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 3: that place you used to sit in. 876 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 1: And that's why you gotta check yourself. Are you gonna 877 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: become just like them? See? That's the shit that's cracking 878 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 1: you up? Now? Why is cracking you up? Because for 879 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: whatever reason that you got fucked up. If you don't 880 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 1: choose to unfuck yourself, now you're about to be packing 881 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,479 Speaker 1: all kinds of shit in your cracks instead of going 882 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,479 Speaker 1: in and doing the work. 883 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 2: How do you unfuck yourself? 884 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 1: You gotta see yourself? 885 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 2: How do you see yourself? 886 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: Get honest? You gotta base your truth off the facts 887 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: and not your feelings. There are two truths. There's your 888 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: personal truth and there are the fucking facts. And a 889 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: lot of people live life from their personal truth that's 890 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: based on their feelings. And you can you can manifest 891 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: a lot of shit from your feelings. You can live 892 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: in an illusion, be a delusional person that exists in 893 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: life every day from the ship that you feel and 894 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: ain't none of that shit based on fact. But if 895 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,399 Speaker 1: you can marry yourself to your self and honesty and 896 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: your truth begins to alarm with the facts, you can 897 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:07,240 Speaker 1: unfuck yourself. But that's hard because you got to see yourself. 898 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 1: You gotta be able to look at you and instead 899 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: of attacking whoever or whatever showed you yourself, you gotta 900 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,720 Speaker 1: be willing to take that shit and say. 901 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 2: What was that moment for you? Let's make this practical. 902 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: I had that moment all the time. I had that 903 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 1: moment when my head of security came and got me 904 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:34,839 Speaker 1: from taking taking so much no care of myself in 905 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: massive amounts that I was sitting in the dark, stress 906 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 1: the fuck out, only doing just enough to keep my 907 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 1: head afloat because I didn't want to see where I'm 908 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: my problem because so many other things were happening to me, 909 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 1: Like God, why you let them lie on me? Why 910 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: you let him attack me like this while you let 911 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 1: them shit on me. Instead of growing through this shit 912 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,439 Speaker 1: like it's fertilizer, you need that to get to where 913 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: you're going, you're gonna have to experience every motherfucking emotion 914 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: and stay solid. And if you don't stay solid, I 915 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: won't move you to the next level. So where you 916 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 1: see yourself or will you be swallowed up in the 917 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: crack of this brokenness? 918 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 3: But it's a natural feeling. And I think that these 919 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 3: are the tools that people can use. Is that when 920 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 3: you have to understand it is natural for you to 921 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 3: feel certain things. 922 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: Yes, And that's why we do classes I do. I 923 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: host the class where I do healing bundle classes. I 924 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: host classes every Sunday and Wednesday, healing bundles. When you 925 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 1: talk about the classes, we study three different books and 926 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: we go over the material together. What are the books? 927 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: We talk about personal development, spiritual development, financial development, and 928 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 1: we work it every day like you get homework. Where 929 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: you have to stay accountable in an environment where people 930 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 1: don't give a fuck about how you showed up, as 931 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 1: long as you want to be better. So we're not 932 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 1: judging where you crack that. Because I got my own 933 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: shit going on, I tell the healing place ninety See, 934 00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 1: I can't do it for you, but I'll do it 935 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,919 Speaker 1: you because you're gonna do yours and I'm gonna do minds, 936 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 1: and I know it's hard, but we're gonna do the 937 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 1: hard parts together because this shit hard. What's hard seeing 938 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: yourself because after you see you, you can't deny you, 939 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: and then once you accept it, you can change it. 940 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: For many people reject themselves. That's not me. I don't 941 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 1: do that that. You do that every day. You do 942 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 1: it twice a day. You did it to all of 943 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 1: your children, you do it to your friends, you do 944 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 1: it to your partners. This is the shit you do. 945 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: You like everything that you don't like. That's why you 946 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 1: don't like yourself. But you are here pretending that you 947 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: love you so. 948 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,720 Speaker 2: Much, right, And that's the trick. 949 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,760 Speaker 3: But see that some women I've dealt with is because 950 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 3: you know I chase my goals and I'm successful, that 951 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 3: they try to. 952 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 2: Use that against me. 953 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 1: That's intimidating. Yeah, it's a very weak because if you're 954 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: dealing with a woman that cannot, that cannot be of 955 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 1: a genuine benefit to you, she's gonna always fell out 956 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: of place. She always will because she like, well, where 957 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: do I fit in? Aside from a fun time, and 958 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 1: you can get a fun time wherever you go. Yes, 959 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: and then when you start crunching numbers a hustler. Once 960 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,240 Speaker 1: a hustler start crunching numbers, a fun time just becomes 961 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: a liability. So I don't miss fun that much. So 962 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: I see you when I see you fun time because 963 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm the little whatever I was gonna spend on you. 964 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 1: I'm about to buy this motherfucking equipment, bitch, I'm moving on. 965 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 1: So if she doesn't, if she can't integrate herself and 966 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: become an asset, then she will always feel like it's 967 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 1: a problem. And instead of her admitting that she has 968 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 1: nothing to add that's beneficial to you, not saying that 969 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,839 Speaker 1: she don't have something beneficial, it just what she got 970 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,959 Speaker 1: you don't need. So she got to go where she's 971 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 1: needed at. And women become resentful because they stay where 972 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 1: they're not needed at. Go where a motherfucker need you at. 973 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 2: Because I don't need you here in that capacity. 974 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 1: That's not that's what I don't need you for. It 975 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 1: if you want me to need you for some shit 976 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 1: that I don't. 977 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 3: Need you, right, yeah, And then my focuses ain't on there. 978 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 3: But it is weird because they weaponize, and especially with 979 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 3: social media, there's words that's being weaponized as this. Some 980 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 3: of them words like what's the word all the girls? 981 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:17,320 Speaker 3: You know, narcissists. That's one I've been called. 982 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 1: I can see that on you. That's all right, I 983 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 1: love them, gone hus. Look, you gotta listen, listen, you 984 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,399 Speaker 1: gotta work through your shit. I can see it though. 985 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 1: But you wouldn't get to where you are without it. 986 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 1: You need some of it. And here's the thing. Just 987 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 1: because you have narcissistic tendencies, that doesn't make you a narcissist. 988 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 1: Every healthy, successful person has extreme narcissistic tendencies at times. 989 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,360 Speaker 1: That is the way that you protect yourself. 990 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 2: Facts. 991 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 1: However, if you are a narcissist and you are manipulating 992 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 1: people and you don't have good intentions for people, and 993 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,839 Speaker 1: you're out here mishandling people, you need to sit down 994 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 1: with somebody. 995 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's what I don't get, because it be 996 00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 3: the people that's using me that's weaponizing narcissists. 997 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 1: Well, here's this about that too. They may not they 998 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 1: we It doesn't matter how much I try to communicate 999 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: with you if I don't speak your language right, And 1000 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a very challenging feat for a certain 1001 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 1: type of woman to speak your language, because you're way 1002 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,280 Speaker 1: over there somewhere, and she's over here having to offer 1003 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,919 Speaker 1: what she has to offer, which may not be what 1004 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 1: you need, and she's doing her best to communicate but 1005 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 1: doesn't speak the language. So instead of learning the language, 1006 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,839 Speaker 1: because sometimes women be lazy like that, we won't learn 1007 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: the language. Me. I've specialized in learning the language. I 1008 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 1: wanna see where I fit, right, So when I observe 1009 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 1: a man, I observe a man from the perspective of 1010 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:46,919 Speaker 1: what can I make better? 1011 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,839 Speaker 2: And that's that's the beautiful thing, Like. 1012 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 1: What where do I fit? Where do I fit? What 1013 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: can I do? 1014 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 3: They weaponize those words, yeah, and then they know I'm 1015 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 3: emotionally attached to the people like care for. 1016 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 2: And so when they say things. 1017 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 1: Are you a narcissist? 1018 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 2: No? 1019 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 1: Why what makes you say you're not? 1020 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,399 Speaker 2: Because I care too much about the people that I care. 1021 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: It's a real psychological classification. People are be out here 1022 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: slinging what I'm saying, like it's like it's like bipolar 1023 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: or sizophrenia, Like that's. 1024 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 2: That's what I'm looking at it as like. 1025 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,839 Speaker 1: The real, real classification. 1026 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm talking about the real definition of it, 1027 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,920 Speaker 3: not the social media I'm talking about. 1028 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,799 Speaker 1: Because social media will diagnosi you. Yeah. 1029 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is I care too much about 1030 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 3: the people are narcissist to me? Right, And I could 1031 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,840 Speaker 3: be off with this, but I care too much about 1032 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 3: the people that I'm that I care about, Like, I 1033 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,240 Speaker 3: don't mishandle people. 1034 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 2: I hate to mishandle anything. 1035 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 1: Well, I believe like with narcissism specifically, it's directly correlated 1036 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 1: to your tendencies. If you find yourself like having bad intentions, 1037 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,400 Speaker 1: And how do you know you have bad intentions? Is 1038 00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 1: do you do stuff to hurt people? 1039 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying. These are these how 1040 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 3: they weaponize. 1041 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,759 Speaker 1: You, Like do you find yourself doing shit because you 1042 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 1: knew that would hurt I did it because I knew 1043 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 1: you was gonna feel it. 1044 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 2: Who does that? The universes? But the universe don't respect that. 1045 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. The universe ain't respecting. No, that's 1046 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 3: some bullshit. That's some little boy pitty for me. Yeah, 1047 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 3: that's not who's doing that. So now here's also what 1048 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 3: I get controlling. 1049 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 1: But I like that, And this is why I like 1050 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 1: controlling