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Speaker 1: Welcome to Real America's voice. This is Sunday the Road Forward.

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Speaker 1: This week, in the midst of all the insanity of

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Speaker 1: modern day life, the world turns its attention to Easter

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Speaker 1: and celebrating the death bury on resurrection of Jesus Christ

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Speaker 1: the Messiah. Happy Easter, he has risen. Stay with us.

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Speaker 1: We discuss the intersection of faith culture in everyday life.

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Speaker 1: Word of hope and encouragement for you and those you love.

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Speaker 1: An incredible lineup. I'm doctor Tim Clinton. I'll be your host.

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Speaker 1: Our special guest joining is this week. He's lead pastor

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Speaker 1: at New Life Church International, Plant City, Florida. Bishop Galvin

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Speaker 1: Coberts is back with us. He's pastor and best selling author.

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Speaker 1: Marriage and family expert Ted Cunningham is with us. She

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Speaker 1: is one of the country's leading authorities on parenting, teens

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Speaker 1: and children's health. Pediatrician mother, best selling author doctor Meg

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Speaker 1: Meeker is with us and he is founder and senior

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Speaker 1: pastor of Church of the King, at growing multi site

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Speaker 1: church with seven locations across the United States. Pastor Steve Robinson,

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Speaker 1: thanks for watching.

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Speaker 2: Christworthy well.

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Speaker 1: So much is happening in our world right now. What

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Speaker 1: a moment to slow down and reflect on our great God.

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Speaker 1: This week Holy Week, culminating in today Easter Sunday, more

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Speaker 1: than two billion people around the world are commemorating and

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Speaker 1: celebrating the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus. You know,

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Speaker 1: Easter is the biggest day on the Christian calendar. Without

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Speaker 1: the Resurrection, there would be no Christianity. Today we're gonna

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Speaker 1: ask and answer questions like did Jesus really die, why

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Speaker 1: did he have to die, how do we know that

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Speaker 1: he rose from the dead, and what does it mean

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Speaker 1: to each and every one of us? One Corinthians fifteen,

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Speaker 1: verses three through six. It's known as the Resurrection chapter.

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Speaker 1: It says, for I delivered under you first of all

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Speaker 1: that which I received. The apostle Paul wrote how that

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Speaker 1: Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, that

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Speaker 1: he was buried, and that he rose again the third

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Speaker 1: day according to the scriptures, and that he was seen

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Speaker 1: of Cephas, and then of the twelve, and then he

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Speaker 1: was seen over five hundred brethren at once.

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 1: This week Holy Week, President Donald J. Trump hosted an

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Speaker 1: Eastern lunch with faith leaders from across the nation. Faith

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Speaker 1: is back in America. God's moving it was so encouraging

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Speaker 1: to be a part of that, to celebrate again the

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Speaker 1: death Burreau and resurrection of Jesus at the White House. Again,

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Speaker 1: He's risen be encouraged. Hey, It's also been a pretty

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Speaker 1: wild week in American around the world, negotiations with Iran

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Speaker 1: is a deal eminent.

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Speaker 3: President Donald J.

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Speaker 1: Trump addressed the nation this week, claiming that US strategic

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Speaker 1: goals in Iran are nearly achieved, promising future forcel strikes,

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Speaker 1: done and by the way, secure the Strait of Hormaz.

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Speaker 1: One thing we can all do. Pray for a peaceful

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Speaker 1: and complete resolution. Here's a great verse to hold on

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Speaker 1: to this week, this Easter Sunday Matthew twenty eight, Verses

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Speaker 1: day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary

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Speaker 1: came to see the tomb, and behold, there was a

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Speaker 1: great earthquake for the angel. The Lord descended from heaven

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Speaker 1: clothes were wet as snow, and the guards shook for fear,

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Speaker 1: Angel answered and said to the woman, don't be afraid,

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Speaker 1: for I know that you seek Jesus, who was crucified.

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Speaker 1: He is not here, he is risen. As he said,

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Speaker 1: hold on as we jump headfirst into our discussions here

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Speaker 1: on Sunday the road Ford, I'm going to pray. We're

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Speaker 1: going to get started. God be with us. Bless our

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Speaker 1: time here, use it for your glory. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: how you're working in our everyday lives. God lead us,

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Speaker 1: help us to stay close to your heart in Jesus' nay. Amen,

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Speaker 1: Let's get started. Christ me sworthy, Join me now is

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Speaker 1: Bishop Calvin Colberts. He currently serves as lead pastor of

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Speaker 1: the National Faith Advisor Board, Strong Voice for Righteousness and Culture. Bishop,

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Speaker 1: welcome back, Happy Easter.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. Doctor Clinton.

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 1: Holy Week some two billion people around the world celebrating

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Speaker 1: important date on the Christian calendar. In particular, Bishop, we've

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Speaker 1: reflections on you as you approach this Easter Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Well, Doctor Clinton, I called this weekend the Christian super Bowl,

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Speaker 4: And like any super Bowl, you get prepared for the

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Speaker 4: big weekend. And as we just reflect upon what Christ

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Speaker 4: did for us, His birth is life and now as

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Speaker 4: we celebrate commemorate the death and resurrection, that's the epitome

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Speaker 4: of salvation and how people get back to God. And

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Speaker 4: I truly see an excitement about the things of God

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Speaker 4: and God all around America today.

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Speaker 1: Bishop, you and I've had some personal conversations, and I

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Speaker 1: know you have.

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Speaker 3: A deep love for God. Yeah, a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: They talk about God, they don't necessarily have a relationship

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Speaker 1: with Him. When you have a relationship with God, Bishop,

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Speaker 1: it brings hope into your life. It brings purpose and meaning.

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Speaker 1: There's something about what it means to be loved by God.

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Speaker 3: Bishop.

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Speaker 1: When did you come to know Christ? And when did

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Speaker 1: you When did all that stuff kind of piece its

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Speaker 1: you have said to me many times you found him faithful.

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Speaker 4: Well, Doctor Clinton, I gave my life to Christ. At

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Speaker 4: the age of five years old. I remember going up

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Speaker 4: to be saved, and he prayed the prayer and led

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Speaker 4: me through it, and then he said, what would you

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Speaker 4: like to do in the church? I told him I

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Speaker 4: want to preach? And everybody start laughing in the church.

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Speaker 4: What's this little boy talked about? He wants to preach?

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Speaker 4: But my pastor had a tear shared down his eye

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Speaker 4: a great voice in the nation one day. And I

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Speaker 4: remember it clear as day. From that day, my pastor

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Speaker 4: took money his tutelage and he taught me the word

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Speaker 4: of God himself. He allowed me to be a hands

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Speaker 4: on student minister under him as my childhood. And then

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Speaker 4: in that same home church, I was the youngest ever

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Speaker 4: years old. And then he made me his assistant when

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Speaker 4: I was sixteen years of age. Sixteen year olds of

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Speaker 4: getting licensed to drive, I was also getting licensed to

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Speaker 4: So was that very point when I gave my life

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Speaker 4: to Jesus Christ, that Jesus was letting me know that

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Speaker 4: your life does not belong to you. Your life is mine,

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Speaker 4: and I'm going to use the rest of your life

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Speaker 4: to be an example of my love and my witness.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Bishop, this is the week that people spend time in

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Speaker 1: passages like Isaiah fifty three, how he was bruised for

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Speaker 1: our iniquities and wounded for our transgressions, and by his

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Speaker 1: stripes we are healed and so much more. And people

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Speaker 1: often go back and maybe they watched the Passion of

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Speaker 1: think and ask questions like why did Jesus really have

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Speaker 3: And why? And what is all the significance of that? Bishop?

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Speaker 1: You know, just as a pastor and you preach the gospel.

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Speaker 1: Paul said, I'm not ashamed of the gospel. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, one Corinthians fifteen is that great Resurrection chapter.

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Speaker 1: You know that how Christ yes is risen from the dead,

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Speaker 1: and he was seen by Cephist, by Peter and others.

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Speaker 1: You know that, and all that becomes really important. What's

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Speaker 2: Why?

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Speaker 3: And what was it about?

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Speaker 1: Is it because God simply loved me?

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Speaker 4: Yes, while we were yet sinners, Christ died. Who in

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Speaker 4: the world would die for someone who's already constantly rejecting them,

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Speaker 4: purposed to die so that he could draw us to

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Speaker 4: because yet, yes, we have evidence that Christ died by yeah,

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Speaker 4: But the greatest witness of his resurrection, if Christ be

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Speaker 4: love even more personal witness of me knowing that Christ lived, died,

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Speaker 1: Bishop, recently you went to Israel with over a thousand pastors.

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Speaker 4: me more confidence in that, and that's why I defend

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Speaker 4: is real so much, because if you love God and

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Speaker 4: and that's what it's all about. So that trip is

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Speaker 4: always a surreal moment for me.

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Speaker 1: Bishop, this week, you and I were together in Washington,

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Speaker 1: really around faith, Faith Advisory Board, religious leaders from all

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Speaker 1: many people were there, a lot of dignitaries in the room.

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Speaker 1: We were at the invitation of President Donald J. Trump

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Speaker 1: so many others. But it's this message that we're committed

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Speaker 1: to that we just want a country where we're free

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Speaker 1: to worship the God.

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Speaker 1: And Bishop, it was pretty momentous, seriously, even the President,

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Speaker 1: and we're grateful for the invitation. Of course we're going

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Speaker 3: Just your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: Live in a time where the President of the United

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for taking time out. Happy Easter.

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Speaker 1: Happy Easter to you. He has risen, he has risen. Indeed, Ted,

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Speaker 6: labor through difficult seasons and stages, and I refuse to

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Speaker 6: turn her into my source or to make her the enemy.

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Speaker 3: Ted.

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Speaker 1: I know there are books, volumes of books and all

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Speaker 1: kinds of events talking about the culprits, the little foxes

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Speaker 1: that spoil our love and relationships. I want I want

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Speaker 1: you to talk a little bit about repair and hope.

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Speaker 3: Ted.

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Speaker 1: As we go, we're fighting the clock a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But I mean a lot of people think, you know what,

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Speaker 1: we just aren't.

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Speaker 3: We aren't made for each other. Hey, we all hit

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Speaker 3: the wall.

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Speaker 1: If you own our relationships, and we've all been staring

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Speaker 1: up at the ceiling wondering what in the world have

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Speaker 1: I done maybe, or what's happened to us? Ted, talk

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Speaker 1: to us about the repair side, the hope side, what.

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Speaker 6: Was natural early on you need to be intentional with

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Speaker 6: later on. And this is why a couple married two

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Speaker 6: three years. They're like, why this worked when we were

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Speaker 6: first dating, the same thing I say, the same thing

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Speaker 6: I do.

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Speaker 3: This brought us together.

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Speaker 5: This works.

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Speaker 3: Why is it no longer working? Why?

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Speaker 6: Because the seasons and stages of life changes, Bills.

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Speaker 3: Change you, jobs change you.

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Speaker 6: Chi children will suck the very life right out here right.

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Speaker 6: I mean all of this changes us. One friend of

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Speaker 6: mine and minister says, over the course of your marriage,

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Speaker 6: you're going to be married to five to seven different people,

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Speaker 6: so as your spouse changes.

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Speaker 2: Makes sense.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you just be intentional and tim you know this

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Speaker 6: my passion for Ecclesiastices nine to nine.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy life with your wife. I rarely you, rarely hear.

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Speaker 6: Me say marriage is hard, it's difficult, it's painful. I

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Speaker 6: remind people marriage requires you to be intentional because it

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Speaker 6: was like breathing early on in early romantic relationship for

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Speaker 6: the sparks, the tingles. But after you've been married ten,

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Speaker 6: twenty thirty forty years, you have to be intentional and

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Speaker 6: we know this. Do the right thing and feelings will follow.

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Speaker 6: And that's why I also don't say love is a decision,

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Speaker 6: not a feeling. I say love is more than a feeling.

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Speaker 6: It's a decision because there's going to be plenty of

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Speaker 6: times you're not feeling it, and that's when you got

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Speaker 6: to lean on the decision.

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Speaker 1: Happy you, sir, to you and Amy Ted. Always great

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Speaker 1: to see you, my friend.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for joining me, Love you Ted, thanks for

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Speaker 1: she has dedicated her work to help strong parents build

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Speaker 3: Doctor Meg, welcome back, Thank you for joining me, Thank

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Speaker 3: you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Tim Hey, Happy Easter to you and your family. You know, Meg,

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Speaker 1: family traditions. My dad, who was a pastor, he loved

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Speaker 1: Easter weekend. We made a big deal out of it,

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Speaker 1: you know, we had Easter baskets and everything else. And Meg,

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Speaker 1: we always had a big Easter dinner and we sat

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Speaker 1: down together as a family.

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Speaker 3: This idea of faith in families, it's so important.

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Speaker 1: That we come tother Meg. You've been doing this, You've

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Speaker 1: been having these conversations for a long time. Just your

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Speaker 1: reflections on Easter and maybe faith and how it should

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Speaker 1: impact our families and strengthen our hearts and homes.

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Speaker 7: Well, Easter's my favorite holiday, and I think it's my

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Speaker 7: husband's favorite holiday as well. Easter's the one time, aside

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Speaker 7: from Christmas, when all of our kids get together. It's

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Speaker 7: very interesting. It isn't for birthdays, but Easter is a

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Speaker 7: big deal for us. Lent is a big deal. We

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Speaker 7: spend a lot of time in prayer, reflecting, and so

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Speaker 7: our kids always knew that Easter was extremely important to us.

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Speaker 7: We are very solid in our Christian faith. My husband

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Speaker 7: talks to our kids a lot about scripture and teaching

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Speaker 7: and what Jesus has done in his life. And I've

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Speaker 7: tried to do the same thing.

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Speaker 5: But we do.

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Speaker 7: Easter is a big deal where we all come together,

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Speaker 7: we have a lovely meal. Of course, we do the

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Speaker 7: egg hunts. Sometimes we leave a few of the eggs

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Speaker 7: empty because when you open up when the kids, we

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Speaker 7: teach the kids that when you open up an egg

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Speaker 7: that's empty, it's because the tomb was empty, and so

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Speaker 7: we emphasize that you know, in the tomb there isn't

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Speaker 7: always a jelly bean or a dime. You know, often

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Speaker 7: it's empty because it reminds us that Christ emptied the

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Speaker 7: tomb for us. So it's a very joyful holiday for us.

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Speaker 7: And all day we all walk around going, he has

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Speaker 7: risen And then the response is he's risen in all

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Speaker 7: day long with anybody in the house.

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Speaker 1: Meg, I think I'm gonna add that empty Easter egg

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Speaker 1: thing to our Easter egg hunt on Sunday. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: that'll be That'll be awesome.

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Speaker 3: Meg.

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Speaker 1: You know, in the midst of all this, you have,

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Speaker 1: through the year's been a strong voice advocate for that

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Speaker 1: relationship between a parent and a child. Yes, dads and

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Speaker 1: moms and kids, and that relationship is everything. It really

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Speaker 1: affects the trajectory of kids. There's so much and parenting

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Speaker 1: isn't for cowards, as doctor Dobson taught both of us

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Speaker 1: through the years, and we stand with him on all that.

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Speaker 1: But you know, May is Mental Health Awareness month. We're

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Speaker 1: coming out with a brand new program on spiritual and

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Speaker 1: psychological first aid for youth. But I was just thinking,

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Speaker 1: you know, our kids are really getting hammered, decimated. You know,

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Speaker 1: this online world is just it's targeting our kids, our daughters,

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Speaker 1: and our granddaughters in particular. I mean, they're suffering from

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Speaker 1: persistent sadness, even suicidality as a result of all of it.

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Speaker 1: This this comparison culture, so much as there meg talk

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Speaker 1: to us about the anxiety, the depression, even the suicidality

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Speaker 1: you're seeing even in your pediatric care, and some reflections

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Speaker 1: on what maybe we should be doing to help save

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Speaker 1: our kids.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's a great concern of mine, and I've

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Speaker 7: been doing this long enough to have seen this escalation

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Speaker 7: in both anxiety and depression, not just in teenagers, but

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Speaker 7: in youngsters ten nine years of age. Our culture has

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Speaker 7: added a lot to our kids, a lot of challenges.

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Speaker 7: Social media get they get auditorily and visually bomb barded

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Speaker 7: every day with messages and ideas and so many things.

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Speaker 7: And yet so we've added a lot to their lives,

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Speaker 7: which is bad. But we've also and more importantly, taken

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Speaker 7: a lot away time with family. Kids don't spend enough

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Speaker 7: time with their parents face to face. Parents are busy,

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Speaker 7: kids are busy. We farm them out to a lot

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Speaker 7: of activities. They don't need activities, they need time with us.

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Speaker 7: Because it's really the parents who develop their identity and

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Speaker 7: their character. So if you take time away from parents

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Speaker 7: for kids, you empty them out. We've also taken faith

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Speaker 7: away from our kids, not intentionally, but even Christian parents

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Speaker 7: now are so caught up in making sure that their

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Speaker 7: kids get enough experience with the sports and the arts

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Speaker 7: and extracurricular activities that even those who have a strong

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Speaker 7: faith will leave God behind and allow their kids to

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Speaker 7: leave God behind and launch into things that they feel

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Speaker 7: are important for the kids to keep up with their peers.

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Speaker 7: And this is an enormous mistake and we need to

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Speaker 7: really reverse this. So it's really the combination of adding

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Speaker 7: a lot of bad stuff and noise to our kids'

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Speaker 7: lives that causes them anxiety and depression and loneliness. But

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Speaker 7: we've also taken away the various things that counteract all

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Speaker 7: of those things, and that's time with parents, real solid

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Speaker 7: relational time.

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Speaker 1: Hey, before you go, I know you were part of

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Speaker 1: a documentary that released here in the month of March

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Speaker 1: this year. He calls me daughter. It was really a documentary,

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Speaker 1: faith based documentary exploring how women heal from absent or

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Speaker 1: broken earthly father relationships, finding identity and healing through the

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Speaker 1: relationship with God as a loving father. Meg special piece

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Speaker 1: of work.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: It's such a big issue out there. You had a

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Speaker 1: very significant part in all this. Talk to us about

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Speaker 1: that real quick.

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Speaker 7: I think that the difficulty that many Christian women have

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Speaker 7: in relating to God and Christ is his maleness, and

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Speaker 7: they can't articulate it. They don't want to articulate it

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Speaker 7: because it makes them look like they don't have a

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Speaker 7: strong faith. But those women who've been deeply wounded by

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Speaker 7: a father or a brother during their growing up years

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Speaker 7: have a mental and spiritual block against relating to God

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Speaker 7: because of his maleness. And he's very clear he's the Father.

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Speaker 7: So how do we do with that? I am so

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Speaker 7: thrilled that this movie came out and was developed because

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Speaker 7: in my experience, I see thousands of Christian women who

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Speaker 7: really struggle with a deep intimate relationship with God the

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Speaker 7: Father because of their history with their own fathers. So

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Speaker 7: it helps break them free from the pain they carry

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Speaker 7: from their own fathers, but also opens them up to

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Speaker 7: the freedom of really experiencing deep intimacy and love with God.

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Speaker 1: Well it's not at the box office right now, but

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Speaker 1: it is up on streaming right so you can is

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Speaker 1: it up streaming on Angel or something.

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Speaker 7: Right now, it's streaming on Angel.

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Speaker 1: Yes, powerful tool brings a lot of help and healing

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Speaker 1: to the lives of women who again have been on

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Speaker 1: that journey. Doctor Meg Meeker, always great to have you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining me.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Tim coming up next. He's the founder and senior pastor

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Speaker 1: of Church of the King. Steve Robinson's with us. Do

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Speaker 1: people ever come to you asking for help? Maybe hope?

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Speaker 2: How about prayer?

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Speaker 1: Do you ever wish you understood the issues better that

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Speaker 1: people are wrestling with? Or how about how to use

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Speaker 1: the Bible more effectively and caring for people? If so,

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Speaker 3: Joice Now.

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Speaker 1: Is Steve Robinson. He serves as founder and senior pastor

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Speaker 1: of Church of the King, at growing multi site church

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Speaker 1: seven locations across the southern United States. Steve, welcome, thank you.

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Speaker 5: For joining me and Tim so excited to be with

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Speaker 5: you guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, happy each this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a happy Easter to you your family. Talk to

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Speaker 1: us about Church of the King and what's happening this weekend,

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Speaker 1: and you know how you prepare for really the exaltation

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Speaker 1: of the Christ, the Messiah.

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Speaker 8: You know, this is obviously a big weekend for the church.

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Speaker 8: Globally and the body of Christ. And you know, as

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Speaker 8: a pastor, you have to gear up because we preach

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Speaker 8: a whole bunch of services at all of our locations.

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Speaker 8: And you know, I think spiritually speaking, it really is a.

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Speaker 5: Moment where we get to do two things.

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Speaker 8: Number One, we celebrate the passover, what Christ has done

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Speaker 8: by dying on the cross for us I loved him.

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Speaker 8: In my Eastern message, I always include it is finished

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Speaker 8: and he has risen together because the resurrection is so

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Speaker 8: tied into the death of Jesus on the cross, and

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Speaker 8: it really is the victory. One of the things I

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Speaker 8: realized years ago is a lot of Christians, Man, we're grateful,

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Speaker 8: we're forgiven, but we don't realize that the power of

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Speaker 8: the risen Christ is on the inside of us as believers.

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Speaker 5: And so man, this is this is.

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Speaker 8: Probably my favorite week end of the year. So I'm

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Speaker 8: looking forward to it. And I'm rested up too.

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Speaker 5: I'm resting there you go.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are saying that faith is back.

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Speaker 1: Faith is back in America. There's such a stirring that

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Speaker 1: seems to be going across the land. Bible cells are up,

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Speaker 1: We're seeing revivals on college campuses, Steve, what do you

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Speaker 1: hear from everyday people?

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Speaker 3: Where are they? What are what's in their hearts?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I think tim when people came out of COVID, particularly

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Speaker 8: the younger generation, there was such confusion. There was such

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Speaker 8: a lack of clarity and unknowns, and people are looking

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Speaker 8: for something solid, looking for something strong and in the

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Speaker 8: Holy Spirit.

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Speaker 5: I believe that revival tide is rising.

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Speaker 8: We in our own church, our youth and our young adults,

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Speaker 8: we've seen a surge record attendance, and you're hearing it

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Speaker 8: all over the world.

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Speaker 5: In England, we're hearing.

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Speaker 8: About the Silent Revival and college campuses here in the

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Speaker 8: United States, and I really believe that God is doing

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Speaker 8: something unique among young people.

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Speaker 5: There's a hunger. They're bringing their Bibles, even kids that

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Speaker 5: look at it on their phones. They're like bringing physical bibles.

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Speaker 8: I remember when I got saved in the eighties, man,

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Speaker 8: we'd bring our Bible to church.

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Speaker 5: They're bringing their notebooks.

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Speaker 8: There is an unpreceded and hunger for biblical truth. We're

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Speaker 8: seeing it in our church and I think it's just

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Speaker 8: characteristic of what God's doing in the earth.

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Speaker 5: We're glad to be part of it. As an older person.

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Speaker 5: I just don't want to mess it up, man.

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Speaker 8: I want to see these younger people flowing what God's

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Speaker 8: got going on.

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Speaker 3: So see if everybody knows too. Though, we've got real.

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Speaker 1: Brokenness in culture, especially with our kids, soaring rates of anxiety, depression,

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Speaker 1: even suicidality. The CDC came up with a report that

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Speaker 1: said fifty seven percent of our daughters and granddaughters were

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Speaker 1: persistently sad. The CDC also reported up to thirty percent

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Speaker 1: of her daughters and granddaughters had seriously contemplated suicide. The

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Speaker 1: brokenness is profound. We're in a mess. We don't have

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Speaker 1: a mental health crisis, we have a mental health disaster.

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Speaker 1: And Steve, it's also showing up across the board seriously

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Speaker 1: and even in leadership. Steve, that's kind of a niche

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Speaker 1: of yours. God's called you to something special. But you've

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Speaker 1: written a very personal book. It's profound.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: It's called Sole Leadership, Rebound from Crisis, Grow in resilience,

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Speaker 1: and Live from wholeness. Steve, talk to us about the

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Speaker 1: message in this book and the timing of it, because

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Speaker 1: I think this all comes together as we talk about

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Speaker 1: the church and faith in culture.

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Speaker 5: You know, Tim, I really I wrote this book. It

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Speaker 5: was really an intersection of three parts in my life.

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Speaker 8: Number one, my own personal trauma story, both prior to

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Speaker 8: pastoring and then in the pastor. And I think that's

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Speaker 8: a silent problem with so many leaders that experiencing trauma.

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Speaker 8: They don't know what it is, they don't know how

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Speaker 8: to get out of it, how do they navigate it?

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Speaker 8: And the mental health the crisis that I personally experienced

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Speaker 8: too walking with leaders, like you said, just pastoring people

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Speaker 8: walking with leaders, and the fallout, the moral fallout, all

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Speaker 8: the levels that we see and the unprocessed pain and

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Speaker 8: trauma that people have. In three, I did my dissertation

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Speaker 8: a number of years ago under a friend of yours,

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Speaker 8: doctor coach Tom Mullens, who we.

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Speaker 5: All love to.

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Speaker 3: I saw Tom this week. Yeah, yeah, we were hugging

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Speaker 3: at each other.

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Speaker 8: He's amazing and so he was my doctoral mentor and

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Speaker 8: I remember sitting down with him one day and he said, see,

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Speaker 8: why don't you write on you have a passion for leadership,

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Speaker 8: but in trauma and your own story and how you

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Speaker 8: walked with so many leaders. And so Tim, really sole

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Speaker 8: leadership was my doctoral dissertation and I was speaking at

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Speaker 8: the Bible Museum and John Maxwell, who's a mentor of mine,

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Speaker 8: and I know that we'll talk a little bit about John,

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Speaker 8: but he said, see, this needs to be a book.

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Speaker 8: We want to help you do it for the popular

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Speaker 8: leadership audience. And there is a crisis. To him, there's

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Speaker 8: a mental health crisis. And I talk about a statistic

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Speaker 8: in there, the high percentage. So much of the mental

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Speaker 8: health crisis that we're dealing with today is because of

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Speaker 8: unprocessed trauma. And so I dove right into it into

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Speaker 8: this book with sole leadership, Steve in.

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Speaker 1: At you unpacked trauma and identified what some ninety three

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Speaker 1: plus percent of leaders have trauma in there in their journey.

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Speaker 1: By the way, your past isn't your past if it's

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Speaker 1: still affecting your present.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So in the midst

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Speaker 3: of that, Steve, take us back. You said it was

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Speaker 3: personal too.

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Speaker 1: What starts happening when we carry our pain, our unresolved pain.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll tell you what happened with me.

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Speaker 8: Our church exploded in growth for the first six years

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Speaker 8: from nineteen ninety nine two thousand and five, and we

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Speaker 8: went through a little storm. I'm speaking a little bit sarcastically.

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Speaker 8: A big storm, Hurricane Katrina. I didn't realize I know now,

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Speaker 8: Tim what I didn't know then, but THETSD and what

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Speaker 8: it is and how it affects the brain.

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Speaker 5: I ran for one year on.

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Speaker 8: Adrenaline in relief recovery, helping people. My own house was affected,

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Speaker 8: my own personal things were affected. But yet I was

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Speaker 8: doing what leaders do, high adrenaline, running on it. And

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Speaker 8: then in two thousand and eight we lost half the church.

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Speaker 8: Then two thousand and eight we went into a big,

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Speaker 8: ambitious building campaign. People had come back, big forty million

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Speaker 8: dollar building campaign. The financial crisis took place, the loan

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Speaker 8: was pulled. Twenty ten, I'm preaching one Sunday, and it's like,

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Speaker 8: my gosh, this is what happens when people they have

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Speaker 8: a breakdown, and I literally preaching.

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Speaker 5: I thought I can't do that anymore. And I remember

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Speaker 5: walking to.

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Speaker 8: The side telling our executive pastor between services, say, man,

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Speaker 8: I'm done. There's nothing moral. I'm not any ethical lapse.

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Speaker 8: I just I was emotionally done. They sent me, our

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Speaker 8: elder sent me to a counselor in another state. I

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Speaker 8: guess I didn't want anybody to know you know where

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Speaker 8: I was living, you know, I don't know, but good men,

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Speaker 8: my wife was a strong support in that time, and

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Speaker 8: I began to unpack and that council began to underpack

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Speaker 8: the cumult of the five year cumulative impact of trauma

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Speaker 8: in my life and how it had resulted really in

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Speaker 8: acute stress disorder diagnosis at the time and PTSD as

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Speaker 8: well after that. And so it's kind of a I

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Speaker 8: didn't realize it, Tim, I do now know how many

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Speaker 8: leaders are dealing with unprocessed trauma.

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 8: That began a journey for me of awareness, symptomology, what's

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Speaker 8: going on, and all of that became the passion for

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Speaker 8: this book Sold.

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Speaker 1: Leadership, Steve, I've always believed this, if you haven't any

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Speaker 1: value for God, all hell will be against you. If

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Speaker 1: your marriage has any value for God, all hell is

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Speaker 1: going to be against you. If your kids have any

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Speaker 1: value for God, all hell is going to be against you. Seriously,

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Speaker 1: and this is a throwdown. We're in a pulsive we're

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Speaker 1: in a fight, We're in a war. At the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, what's amazing here is is you can

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Speaker 1: learn to become resilient. You can learn about these neuropathways

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Speaker 1: and develop healthy brain running if you will, and in

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Speaker 1: ways that absolutely change and rewire everything about you and

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Speaker 1: how you approach life, and so much more by the way,

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Speaker 1: impacting your relationships everyone around you. That's why leaders Man

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Speaker 1: is this is so powerful. I can see why John

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Speaker 1: Maxwell is consumed with it because it makes sense.

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Speaker 3: It just does.

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Speaker 1: Healthy leaders create healthy environments, healthy outcomes, and so much more. Steve,

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Speaker 1: we were at that place here where how to people

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Speaker 1: we'll learn more about you and possibly I got this

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Speaker 1: book sitting on my desk right here. But how can

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Speaker 1: they get a copy of something like this and we're

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Speaker 1: a little more about you?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they can go to Steve Robinson dot com and

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Speaker 8: of course you can order that book anywhere books are sold. Amazon,

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Speaker 8: and we'd love to be able also did an audiobook

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Speaker 8: as well.

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Speaker 5: I read it. It took me about two or three

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Speaker 5: days to go through it.

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Speaker 8: I had a lot of re edits and going back

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Speaker 8: and back and forth, and so super excited about it.

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Speaker 5: Tim super excited. What helps some people?

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Speaker 1: The books Exploding Sole Leadership, Rebound from Crisis, Growing Resilience,

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Speaker 1: Live from Holness, Doctor Steve Robinson, Yeah, you need to

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Speaker 1: get a copy of this, Steve we've got to have

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Speaker 1: you back. We've got to spend some time together unpacking

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Speaker 1: resilience and post traumatic growth. That area of research is profound,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's going to take the church by storm.

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Speaker 3: Hey, what did you like to have you? Happy Easter,

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Speaker 3: my friend? Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Tim, Come.

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Speaker 2: Call us Christ by Love's worthy.

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Speaker 1: Boy, Andy closing, let me say this. What held Christ

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Speaker 1: on the cross was you.

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Speaker 3: He loves you.

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Speaker 1: God wants to have a relationship with you. That's really

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Speaker 1: what the Bible is all about. Therefore, the most important

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Speaker 1: question in life is simply this, what do you think

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Speaker 1: of Christ? How you answer that question is everything, whether

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Speaker 1: or not you'll spend eternity in heaven with him or

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Speaker 1: in hell. John three point sixteen says, for God so

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Speaker 1: loved the world that he gave as only the godden son,

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Speaker 1: whosoever believeth in him would not perish, but have everlasting life.

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Speaker 1: And I love what the apostle Paul wrote in Roman, say, two,

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Speaker 1: he who spared not his own son, how shall he

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Speaker 1: not with him freely give us all things?

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 1: The Bible also says this in Hebrews eleven six. So

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Speaker 1: those who come to God must first believe that he

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Speaker 1: is and that he's a rewarder of those who diligently

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Speaker 1: seek him. On this Easter Sunday. If you've never said

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Speaker 1: yes to Jesus, why don't you do that right now?

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Speaker 1: I want to invite you to know him and to

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Speaker 1: accept him into your life. The Bible says, whoever calls

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Speaker 1: on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Now

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Speaker 1: you could do that right now. You simply pray this

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Speaker 1: prayer after me, right where you are, Lord Jesus.

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Speaker 3: I need you.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm a sinner. I believe you died for

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Speaker 1: my sins. I want to turn from my ways and

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Speaker 1: invite you to come into my heart my life. I

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Speaker 1: want to trust you and follow you as my Lord

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Speaker 1: and savior. Thank you for loving me, for giving your

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Speaker 1: life for me. Thank you for forgiveness and the gift

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Speaker 1: of each other life. I pray all this in Jesus' name.

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Speaker 5: Amen.

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Speaker 1: You know what the Bible says Romans ten nine. If

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Speaker 1: you confess with your mouth that Jesus Lord, and believe

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Speaker 1: in your heart that God raised him from the dead.

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Speaker 1: The Bible says this, you will be saved. The best

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Speaker 1: thing you do right now if you prayed that prayers

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Speaker 1: go serve him for the rest of your life. He'll

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Speaker 1: give you the strength to do it. Happy Easter everyone,

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Speaker 1: He has risen and I've talked Tim Clinton. As always,

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Speaker 1: thanks for watching. To see you next week right here

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Speaker 1: on Sunday the Road, Ford on Real America's Voice

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Speaker 2: Mead by God, Come