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Speaker 2: when it comes to the situation that took place last night,

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Speaker 2: very troubling but it is time for our special WNBA

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Speaker 2: news report and bulletin. And over to the news desk

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Speaker 2: we go where Lee Robert de Lap is with us

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Speaker 2: to explain the situation.

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Speaker 3: Mister Delap, guys an ongoing saga now in the WNBA.

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Speaker 3: We're in two separate incidents. On Tuesday night, what appears

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Speaker 3: to be another green dildo was thrown on the court at.

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Speaker 4: That was the color green? That at first?

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Speaker 5: That is correct and green are in the same family, right, Yes,

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Speaker 5: that is true.

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Speaker 2: And I saw that there were bets on this.

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously we talked about the different colors, but

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Speaker 3: somebody did lay down thirteen to win twenty on just

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Speaker 3: the fact that there would be a dildo thrown before

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Speaker 3: the August Yes.

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Speaker 2: Or were you doing last night throwing dil do? I

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Speaker 2: will keep my mouth shut on this. I will be

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Speaker 2: the fifth. I can neither confirm nor deny where I

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Speaker 2: was last night. I mean it happened in La, right,

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Speaker 2: one of them. That was one of them.

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Speaker 3: One was actually at the at the Barclay Center during

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Speaker 3: the Liberty Wings game contest, and another at the Crypto.

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Speaker 2: Dot Com arena.

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Speaker 3: That is, in fact, you're in La where the fever

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Speaker 3: lost one hundred and ninety one to the Sparks.

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Speaker 2: Sophie Cunningham was in fact hit by this dildo.

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Speaker 6: Oh no, not so, no, no, not so Sophie, not

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Speaker 6: our Sophie.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, So we got so we got four hair

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Speaker 2: chairs that have been thrown at w NBA games over

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Speaker 2: the past week. I mean that's something. Hey, you know

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Speaker 2: what though, at least they're just what else you got?

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Speaker 7: What do you mean? You know what?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what else you I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I loaded get them all out, don't have anything. Well,

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Speaker 6: you can't drop it hair chair, hair the rest of them.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I don't. I'm just trying to figure

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Speaker 2: out stop whether the rest I don't.

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Speaker 4: I just.

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Speaker 7: Not ready. I'm going to now.

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Speaker 3: Just to note here the Liberty Wings game, according to

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Speaker 3: fans in the stands, there was another sex to allegedly

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Speaker 4: Reach the court, didn't make the court. No, we ass

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Speaker 6: No, they need to work on their warm You're gonna

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Speaker 6: get that thing that spiral or it's gonna be endover.

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Speaker 6: That's there's only two ways to do it. It's a gancer.

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Speaker 6: Do you try to throw at helicopter. It's not gonna work.

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Speaker 5: I'm right now just seeing a dial flattening there here,

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Speaker 5: It's like, what is that? What?

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Speaker 7: He man?

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Speaker 5: That's gotta be in slow motion if you see it

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Speaker 4: That's gotta be the wildest.

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Speaker 5: The spiral might be kind of a vibe too, bro like,

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Speaker 5: kind of look like the one that you know, the

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Speaker 5: javelin that Lamar threw and revenge of the nerves.

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Speaker 7: That would be kind of crazy.

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Speaker 5: I mean, just the way my body would feel if

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Speaker 4: In the air going over heading into the court.

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Speaker 2: So I'm just wondering though, and I'm not saying this

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Speaker 5: Security like how are you checking? You know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: how are you checking? Because you could fit that thing

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Speaker 5: up perfectly where it's non detectable, yeah, you know, which

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Speaker 5: would make it even more disgusting by the way, that

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Speaker 2: That's especially if it was a guy. What's that supposed

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Speaker 2: to mean? How dare you how?

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Speaker 6: How are we just describing this this dildo crisis?

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Speaker 2: The w NBA is in this uh? Is this a revolt?

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Speaker 2: Is that what this is.

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Speaker 6: It's like they were you know, pa us more whatever

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Speaker 2: Well, I think and this is just a theory, but

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Speaker 2: you guys know this that if you you know this

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Speaker 2: from being in locker rooms, no, now, you know this

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Speaker 2: being in locker rooms or growing up with siblings, that

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Speaker 2: the second, the second you show them that something bothers them,

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Speaker 2: their life. Like you just know that. That's that's the

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Speaker 2: take this serious. Let's just start sneaking in neon green

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Speaker 2: dildos and throw them onto the court at at a rack.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so don't take it there. What what message are

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Speaker 5: you trying to send by using a dildo as your

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Speaker 6: I asked this the other day to you guys. I

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Speaker 6: sign of like, Okay, you want us to take you

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Speaker 5: Or play with that? Yeah, I mean, because that's got

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Speaker 5: to be misogynistic. Who's ever doing this? It's got to

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Speaker 5: be a chauvinistic pig who's doing this?

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Speaker 6: Right, it couldn't be harder to find its way in

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Speaker 6: or maybe not, but that's why I was.

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Speaker 5: That was that's what made me laugh a little bit earlier,

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Speaker 5: either way, I mean, both sides could get it in,

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Speaker 5: you know what I.

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Speaker 2: Think if we're getting to the point.

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Speaker 4: So no, it's not me throwing them. Please.

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Speaker 5: I have never thrown a dildough in my life. I

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Speaker 6: I was thinking, though, should the w NBA like lean

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Speaker 6: all the fans wear wigs, you know, and then like

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Speaker 6: take them off and throw them on the court. You

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Speaker 6: know that'd be fun. Or you know, bring your dildo

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Speaker 6: everyone's bringing their own way. It's like, well, if everyone's

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Speaker 6: got one, you know, it's not like as big of

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Speaker 6: a deal, right, everybody bubblehead dolls. You just have bubble dildos. No,

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Speaker 6: no one's I mean you could lean into it.

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Speaker 2: Hey listen, I'm I'm all for in game promotions. This

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Speaker 2: is going to be a real, real tough one to figure.

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Speaker 4: Out, though. It's going to be a tough one to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so how how can you?

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Speaker 5: How do you because there's there's that elephant in the room,

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Speaker 5: by the way, you know that you know someone look like, w.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Ce, what were you going to say, man? Good?

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Speaker 4: Well were you going to say?

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Speaker 6: Contrary to and Jonas's take that the guy didn't really

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Speaker 6: I think first or second he's raised the three separate charges. Wow,

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Speaker 6: So there is you know, penalizing these guys in a

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Speaker 4: I mean, I wonder do they practice like you?

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Speaker 5: You gotta have some there has to be some science

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Speaker 5: one or is it like you look around, you look

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Speaker 5: around and it's like fast, throw it fast and then

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Speaker 6: Think about how the life of a w NBA security

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Speaker 6: yard has changed drastically in the past two years. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 6: like for starters knowing went to the games so you

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Speaker 2: And next thing you know, this whole dildo crisis starts happening.

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Speaker 6: People are launching these things from all different tas years

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Speaker 7: From the top.

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Speaker 2: Those guys jobs just got exponentially harder.

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Speaker 4: Do you imagine it dropping from the top of the arena.

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Speaker 2: The person who couldn't make it onto the court, you

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Speaker 2: gotta feel like such a horse's ass. All that trouble

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Speaker 2: And the first person that gets it to land upright

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Speaker 4: I agree they should be a national hero.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say so much to try to throw

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Speaker 2: in the basket, that'd be sweet. Yeah, imagine gets stuck

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Speaker 6: I have a theory, by the way, on who this

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Speaker 6: I've actually profiled who this kid is. Okay, this kid,

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Speaker 6: I say kid because he's between the ages of fifteen

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Speaker 6: And the reason why I'm profiled this kid in this

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Speaker 2: So this is someone who's seen it a few times.

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Speaker 6: He's going for clout, trying to be cool, and he

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Speaker 6: in this you know, act of cloud chasing, he tries

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Speaker 6: and on top of that, maybe it's slicker than he.

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Speaker 2: Ever imagined around them before. So it ends up short.

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Speaker 6: And meanwhile all his friends, all the people who want

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Speaker 2: That's the end of it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, how do you hold the dial though, to

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Speaker 5: throw it? I'm sorry, man, like, are you grabbed?

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Speaker 6: You've ever thrown a knife before you can hold it

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Speaker 6: by the button. You can hold it by the That's

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Speaker 6: what I'm saying. Are you holding it back? Are you tip?

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Speaker 6: Are you if you go end over end? You really

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Speaker 6: I think that's how you want to hold it because

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Speaker 2: And see it's like it's like flipping a water bottle.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't make a noise when you try it, Like is it?

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Speaker 6: The other way is the spiral, which that one you

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to five comes around, because wasn't it

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Speaker 6: When you throw, you follow your Tom Martinez that was

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Speaker 5: Then you got to follow it through to the bottom

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Speaker 2: I didn't know. And these things are and you looked

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Speaker 2: I'd love to know what the increase in sales are.

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Speaker 5: I was about to say, bro, I bet you Braziers

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Speaker 5: is out here like putting a spoof together as we speak.

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Speaker 5: As we speak one of them, what's the other ones called?

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Speaker 5: You know what they're called?

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Speaker 2: I don't me.

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Speaker 4: You live out here? Come on, you used to live

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Speaker 7: Hey?

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Speaker 6: Look, man, what if a parent was involved, like like

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Speaker 2: He's even like, oh yeah, sudden, let me help you here.

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Speaker 2: Let's go on. I mean again, a young kid's probably

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Speaker 4: You can order those things super easily, though.

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Speaker 2: Yes you could. You have to be eighteen, though, don't

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't think so. I don't believe that.

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Speaker 6: Lorena what age?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you do have to be eighteen, but I mean

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Speaker 2: it's the internet.

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Speaker 4: You can just told you.

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Speaker 8: That the last time I did online shopping for this

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Speaker 2: I can go test it right now though.

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Speaker 4: I'm testing it right now as we speak. What are

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Speaker 4: you looking at? Here's an adult toy right here.

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Speaker 2: I want to buy.

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Speaker 4: I want to buy it now.

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Speaker 2: Why why pay the extra money?

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Speaker 4: Just get not ask me for.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you want that in your algorithm.

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Speaker 4: It's not asking me. I mean, I'm just saying, and

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Speaker 2: I know the next thing, next thing, you know it

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Speaker 5: You don't have to check being eighteen by the way,

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Speaker 5: you don't know, you don't.

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Speaker 4: You don't have to be of age to buy this toy.

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Speaker 6: And particularly, the same thing happened to me one time

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Speaker 2: I who said that? Yeah, it's like whoops.

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Speaker 6: I could plain it about it, you know, and for

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, I think, uh, I think this is, you know,

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Speaker 2: a job well done by our correspondent. Lead to laugh.

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Speaker 2: Who really uh really? Dug deep?

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Speaker 5: You know, like when you wanted don't warrior movies, like

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Speaker 2: Like that thing just catch you off guard.

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Speaker 4: Come out of nowhere.

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Speaker 7: By the way, it's you upside to hit.

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Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna get really creative. You're gonna see dildo nunchucks.

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Speaker 7: Come out now.

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Speaker 2: Dildo stars, oh yeah, Chinese stars. Oh grow up, everybody

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Speaker 2: have some respect. Oh god, it is two pros and

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Speaker 2: a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. What

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Speaker 4: Who was the leading scorer? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I thought that was the game?

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Speaker 7: Was it?

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Speaker 6: Was it?

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Speaker 2: Brittany Hicks?

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Speaker 5: You got me the first time on that one. What

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Speaker 5: Brittany Hicks be.

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Speaker 2: Hey, this is Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: Normally a Wednesday tradition, but a rare Monday appearance here.

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Speaker 2: He's the one and only Petros Papadakis. He is the

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Speaker 2: co host of the Petro Some Money Show, which you

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Speaker 2: on x at the Old p Petros.

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Speaker 11: Good morning, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, I'm here.

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Speaker 4: Nice.

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Speaker 2: How was your weekend? That was all right?

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Speaker 7: I don't know, like what.

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Speaker 6: You do, Petros, you followed the w n b A

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Speaker 6: Like what's happening?

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Speaker 2: Happening?

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Speaker 7: You know earlier years?

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Speaker 9: It's not cool anymore. I mean the first dildo okay,

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Speaker 9: you know the second one?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? But now what has it been three?

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Speaker 4: Has it?

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Speaker 7: I don't thought it wasn't just two.

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Speaker 9: you know. I mean, they shouldn't throw stuff. They're athletes,

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Speaker 9: can You can't throw hard objects onto the court, no

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Speaker 9: matter how funny it is. It's not okay, we can't

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Speaker 9: So it's not it's not right, it's not right.

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Speaker 5: What's been a report you've heard out of US training

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Speaker 2: Everyone up for the buckets at this point.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I'm up anybody who's gonna play? Is it?

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Speaker 7: Did you win the buckets I did. That's pretty sweet.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 9: I played football with a Buttess Award winner and I

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Speaker 9: Chris Claiborne. So very exciting award and a great award.

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Speaker 9: But we cannot give it out about Gentry. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 7: That's a big USC stigma.

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Speaker 9: Why because one of these donors wanted Lane kiff and

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Speaker 7: Went ahead and did it.

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Speaker 9: But what people did or said when it came to

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Speaker 9: Could still pay me illegally. Just fire the damned coach

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Speaker 9: is now because of the way the transfer portal is

445
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 9: and how everybody wants a more veteran team, and going

446
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 9: the high school route takes a lot of patients from

447
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 9: your fan base, patients that the USC fan base does

448
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 9: not have. I just don't know how anybody's recruiting class

449
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 9: in the future should ever help them when they go

450
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 9: five hundred in a blue blood place or a wanna

451
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 9: be blue blood place like USC.

452
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 7: So we'll see what happens.

453
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 9: But when USC has a slow start or whatever, I

454
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 9: think they start the year out with like Missouri State

455
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 9: or something like that. But when or if USC starts

456
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 9: losing big ten games, you're gonna hear that. People are

457
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 9: gonna say, well, we should fire Lincoln Riley, and somebody's gonna.

458
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 7: Say, what about the recruited club.

459
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 6: Hey, well, the good thing is sounds like they're getting

460
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 6: this Notre dame USC rivalry figured out.

461
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 2: I think Pete Bovaco.

462
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 6: Came out and recently said, hey, they'd be opened to

463
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 6: do it even week one.

464
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the balls in Southern Cal's court at this.

465
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 7: Point, I guess.

466
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 9: I mean they should have never They should not have

467
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 9: been a question whatsoever. It should not have been even

468
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 9: teased that they would change the time of year, because

469
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 9: the time of year for the opposite years between October

470
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 9: and late November at Notre Dame and at USC, respectively.

471
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 9: They should have never even talked about that how it

472
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 9: should be changed, that it should be changed, the fact

473
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 9: that it was ever even a topic, and that anybody

474
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 9: ever brought it up was asinine. And then all of

475
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 9: a sudden, it's something that you're going to be asked

476
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 9: about every time you're in public because Lincoln Riley has

477
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 9: sent mixed messages. Lincoln Riley said the stupidest thing I've

478
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 9: ever heard at the Big ten media day when you

479
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 9: guys were there, and he in an attempt to walk

480
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 9: it back. No, well, I mean in an attempt to

481
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 9: walk back the whole the whole thing. He was like, well,

482
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 9: we got I came here because we're going to play

483
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 9: Notre Name and That's why, you know, before I took

484
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 9: the job, that's what I thought about. But I'll always

485
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 9: do what's best for USC. Yeah, what's best for USC

486
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 9: is for you to resign. Now, you're not gonna do that,

487
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 9: you know, I mean, don't sit there and say that,

488
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 9: you know, I mean, just say say what you really mean.

489
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 9: I don't want to play the rivalry because I'm soft,

490
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 9: But I've gotten so much pushback about it that I'm

491
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 9: going to try to walk this back and get out

492
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 9: of it. And the fact that jen Co and the

493
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 9: USC Athletic director hasn't said anything about it probably lets

494
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 9: you know, not really publicly, probably lets you know that

495
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 9: she was disappointed that Lincoln Riley opened his mouth in

496
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 9: the first place about it, and now they've tried to

497
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 9: walk it back and seem like they're on the same

498
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 9: page or not. Lincoln Riley has as if he has

499
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 9: a choice, has tried to manipulate USC schedule and get

500
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 9: rid of the rope Notre Dame rivalry, or at least

501
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 9: bring questions up about it, which is criminal. He should

502
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 9: have never brought it up. I don't care if he's

503
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 9: even even if he's won eleven games the last four

504
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 9: years that he's been there. He shouldn't bring it up.

505
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 9: He should never bring it up if you coach USC,

506
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 9: you played Notre Dame when USC plays Notre Dame, and

507
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 9: you should shut your mouth about it. And anybody that

508
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 9: says anything else about it is a soft crumb coward.

509
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 9: And I can't take it, and I won't. I won't

510
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 9: discuss it as the when the season starts, I will

511
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 9: not discuss it anymore.

512
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: So well, I'm curious though from usually out here, the

513
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 2: fanboys and fangirls in the media don't really want to

514
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 2: be critical of the local teams. They just don't.

515
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a toothless media.

516
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 9: When the Seattle media is tougher than LA, we have

517
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 9: a real problem.

518
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 2: And so you and Scott Wolf are basically the only

519
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 2: two that are willing to call out USC for their craft.

520
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: We have fine Bob Well, yeah, you mean locally, yeah,

521
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 2: locally well and Colin Coward too.

522
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 12: It's true, it's true, you know, but what sort of

523
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 12: feedback do you get from people either in and around

524
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 12: the program?

525
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 2: Are you ostracized?

526
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 7: Are you is?

527
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 4: It?

528
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: Just don't even we don't even address that anymore, even

529
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: though you postorcize. Yeah, I mean, are you like, what

530
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: sort of feedback do you get from people in and

531
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: around the program if you guys are always so hard

532
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: on the pain about all the flaws that USC has.

533
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 9: Well, I've told the truth about it for a long time,

534
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 9: and it's not like I was wrong. Us see, after

535
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 9: Pete Carroll and his uh what Pete Carroll did and

536
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 9: how he did it, and the arrogant way in which

537
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 9: it was handled, and the fact that his superiors allowed

538
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 9: it to happen crippled generations of USC football, the sanctions

539
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 9: and all that, and then who they hired to pull

540
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 9: them out of it, which were Pete Carroll's old proxies

541
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 9: Kiffin and Sarkeisian and then ending up hiring Clay Helton,

542
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 9: and the way that they've had athletic directors work not

543
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 9: real administrators. The one administrator that they ended up hiring,

544
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 9: a guy named Mike Bone, seemed like he had a

545
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 9: head injury the whole time he was there.

546
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 7: You don't even know.

547
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, I acted like a complete weird jackass.

548
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 7: Just was like a caricature of a blowhard old athletic.

549
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 9: Director, which was really sad because I was just happy

550
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 9: that it wasn't an ex USC football player that they hired,

551
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 9: and now they actually have a real administrator in Jen Cohen.

552
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 9: But it's a real tsunami of no I'm sorry about

553
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 9: the well, I guess the tsunami didn't really send anybody

554
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 9: too much, maybe in Russia, but it was a real

555
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 9: pseudonambie of bad stuff that she's got to deal with.

556
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 9: And a lot of modern college football stuff, modern athletic

557
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 9: department stuff that USC is just they don't just they

558
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 9: just don't seem ready for the twenty first century.

559
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 7: They were barely ready for things to change.

560
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 9: The last few times in college football, they've not been

561
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 9: ahead of the crest of the wave like a lot

562
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 9: of programs like Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama, LSU, people that

563
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 9: are comparable US. He just hasn't been there like that.

564
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 9: And I don't know if it's going to happen anytime soon.

565
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 9: They have this Lake A Riley contract, maybe this guy

566
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 9: wins the buck gist, but other than that, I don't think.

567
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 9: I don't know how much we're going to be talking

568
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 9: about it as far as relevant college football is.

569
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 7: The year goes on.

570
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 5: You got a kid by the name of Tamir Robinson

571
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 5: from our school from Penn State. That's a linebacker. Keep

572
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 5: an eye out for him. Kid is super athletic, special kid.

573
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 5: He was under you know, he gots ill at Penn

574
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 5: State last year, but he actually transferred to USC.

575
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 4: I didn't like it, but kick and ball, So.

576
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 7: I'm sorry that he transferred.

577
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't like that he left us to especially

578
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 5: to come to a Big ten school. But that is

579
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 5: what it is. But let me ask you this. You

580
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 5: you talked about just kind of like like that momentum

581
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 5: isn't there for USC, But.

582
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 7: What about the recruits?

583
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 5: Yeah?

584
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 4: And the recruits.

585
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 5: I mean, we just saw Trey Lance have a good,

586
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 5: a good preseason game. I really believe Harball is going

587
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 5: to have the Chargers balling this year. And then you

588
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 5: got Sam or excuse me, Matthew Stafford. His back is sore.

589
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 5: You think this could be a Chargers year in LA.

590
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 9: That's a great question. Everybody says that every year. And

591
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 9: I'll be a Chargers camp today. Hell yeah, okay, Actually,

592
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 9: so I'll let you know by the way, I will, yeah, please,

593
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 9: after I survey them in camp, LeVar, I'll be able

594
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 9: to tell you whether or not it's you know, I

595
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 9: really will watch practice and make sure they're doing karaoke

596
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 9: correctly and that he'll be able to say, you know,

597
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 9: this is the Chargers year. But it's kind of funny

598
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 9: whether it's their year or not. I mean, last year

599
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 9: they looked a lot different than they had in the

600
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 9: regular season, and then they go to the playoffs and

601
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 9: lose horribly. What was it to Houston and kind of

602
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 9: look exactly like the Chargers look every year in the playlofs.

603
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 7: So that was disappointing.

604
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 9: It's kind of funny because Jim Harbaugh, he's such a

605
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 9: football institution, and I don't know how you guys feel

606
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 9: about him because both of you have Big ten kind

607
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 9: of backgrounds where you play Michigan and they're more of

608
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 9: a rival and you're Big Noon and all that. So

609
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 9: Brady's there all the time. But I mean, I covered

610
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 9: Harbaugh when he was at Stanford a lot and got

611
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 9: to know him there. I even got to know him

612
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 9: when he was down at USD. And it's funny. It's

613
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 9: like you'd think that Harball, not that the Chargers are

614
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 9: good or bad or anything, but you'd think that Harball

615
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,959
Speaker 9: was like gonna make the Chargers cool. And it's almost

616
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 9: like the Chargers made him a dork.

617
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 7: You know what I mean.

618
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 9: Sure, it's just kind of funny to see him in

619
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 9: a Charger gear and just being, you know, doing all

620
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 9: his Harrball stuff. Like it's still kind of surreal to

621
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 9: me that he's he's with the Chargers. He's a great

622
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 9: football coach and his teams have always responded really well

623
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 9: to him, and he's been able to build teams everywhere

624
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 9: he's gone. So to say that they're not going to

625
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 9: have success would be naive. But it is just kind

626
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 9: of funny the way, like just seeing Harball around La

627
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 9: like eating cheetos.

628
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 7: At like little league games, and he's just like he's like.

629
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 9: Here and and it's just it's still kind of surreal

630
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 9: to me. And last year the proof was in the putting.

631
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 9: The regular season was so much better. They were such

632
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 9: a physical team and all that, and it was just

633
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 9: year one. So yeah, I would expect them to get better.

634
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 9: I think one of their best defenders got popped for

635
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 9: having a bunch of guns in his car, right, Harryman.

636
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 9: I think he was on his way to the shooting range.

637
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 9: But oh okay, yeah, but he had a bunch of

638
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 9: illegal guns, I believe, so.

639
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 7: What am I wrong?

640
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 9: No, I didn't hear that that up in camp? Should

641
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 9: I not play all the wow?

642
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 6: I recall seeing something about that. I don't recall about

643
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 6: his explanation he was going to the gun range, although

644
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 6: everyone probably should have that as their explanation.

645
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 9: Wasn't he headed out to the gun range. A lot

646
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 9: of people, like a lot of people in California like

647
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 9: to go out to the middle. I mean, we have

648
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 9: a lot of middle of the nowhere kind of places

649
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 9: in California and of the further east you go, uh,

650
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 9: and a lot of people like to go out in

651
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 9: the middle of nowhere and shoot off guns.

652
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: I got a lot of them.

653
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I bought a house just for that, to be

654
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 5: able to do just that.

655
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 7: I did not know that.

656
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like really, yeah, yeah.

657
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 6: You bought a house just to shoot guns.

658
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 5: Well, I mean it was my house around the house,

659
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 5: it was my house. It was my house. It was

660
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 5: like forty eight acres and so.

661
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 9: What like instead of turning off the light with your hand,

662
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 9: you just shot shot it out.

663
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 5: No, not not like that, but it was this in California,

664
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 5: then Maryland, Maryland.

665
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 2: It was just a place with the koy pon. Yeah,

666
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 2: who is your neighbor.

667
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you.

668
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 5: Ever tell Petros about the coy pon situation? I don't

669
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 5: like talking about it. You love it, I know, but

670
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 5: it's actually really good. Still love my misery of my

671
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 5: like like John No and Juju and and and Creamy

672
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 5: and and orange and yeah, all of them, man like.

673
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 6: They all that good point called black.

674
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, you killed your fish.

675
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 4: I didn't kill them, Petro, intentionally, I did not.

676
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: They didn't.

677
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 4: They perished.

678
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 5: We had that big storm, you remember that great storm

679
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 5: that came through, the hurricane that came through, like it

680
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 5: was like a hurricane slash blizzard that.

681
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 9: Came through, shot down like a tornado, like sharknado.

682
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 5: Our power went out and my generator only lasted for

683
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 5: like it was like maybe five days before the It

684
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 5: was something crazy, but we did. We were out of

685
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 5: power for like seven days. It was like a long

686
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 5: ad sign with no power. And my fish started going

687
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 5: belly up like the second day with no power.

688
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 4: And next thing you.

689
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 7: Know, they were in like a pond.

690
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're in a pond indoors, So it has to

691
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 5: be the water has to be circulating or they lose

692
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 5: the oxygen. And one thing leads to another and they

693
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 5: and I mean they were big. I raised them from babies.

694
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 5: They were little baby cooys, and they were really really big,

695
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 5: like like probably like the length of your arm, like

696
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 5: really big.

697
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 9: Well, it reminds me of a few things. Chris Wembers.

698
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 9: You used to have a lake in the back of

699
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 9: his house in the Atlanta area, and he would have

700
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 9: it stocked with fish and he would go out and

701
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 9: fish on it.

702
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: Oh sweet, yeah, trout.

703
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 9: Deal right, So that's you know, that makes me think

704
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 9: of that. And then I thought of LeVar just out

705
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 9: there shooting at his fish, which you'd never do.

706
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 7: No, since you raised them.

707
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be shooting at my fish. But the way

708
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 5: my probably you were gone and you.

709
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 2: Came back to the house. No, I found them that way.

710
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 4: We were in there.

711
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 7: You just slowly watched them.

712
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 5: I watched them like I had to like live through

713
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 5: watching do anything.

714
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought you should. I thought, I thought, did you.

715
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 4: Guys create that?

716
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: I swear I thought that was the story that you

717
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 2: walked in the house in the smell and smell that's

718
00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 2: what you told us initially.

719
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 7: The other thing is like a lot of jep Show. Up.

720
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 5: I was there, we were there, We were stranded in

721
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 5: a storm.

722
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 4: We were snowed in. It was a storm.

723
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 7: You could consider this LeVar because.

724
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 5: I mean I might have walked in from a different room.

725
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 5: I mean it was twenty twenty thousand square foot home.

726
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 7: In Orange County.

727
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 9: For a time, everybody got like coyfish tattoos.

728
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah they did.

729
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, a lot of people had coyfish tattoos. Maybe in Memoriam.

730
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 9: I don't know how it.

731
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: Uh, what was that about?

732
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know.

733
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 9: It was like a white guy flat bail, like Fox Racing,

734
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 9: like Monster Energy thing. Yeah, those things. Those guys came

735
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 9: with a lot of coyfish. And every once in a while,

736
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 9: like mister choose Asian restaurant or something and Bakersfield will

737
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 9: be robbed of their cooyfish. I'm glad you brought something,

738
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 9: you know what I mean. People do like to steal coyfish.

739
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 5: Hey, Petros, was I wrong for saying that Confederate flags

740
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 5: are related to NASCAR events?

741
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 7: Well? You got the general lee right, I mean, but

742
00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 7: is that wrong?

743
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 5: Like I'm saying, you go to a NASCAR event, Confederate

744
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 5: flags are part of NASCAR events that might have beanned them,

745
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 5: but that's still that doesn't mean that they don't want

746
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 5: to have them.

747
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 7: I don't know.

748
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 9: I mean, the Confederate flag is interesting. I mean it

749
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 9: represents a lot of different things, a lot of different people.

750
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 9: YEA one interesting fact about the Confederate flag. I believe

751
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 9: it was was designed by Beauregard, who was a Creole

752
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 9: general for the for the Confederates. He was in Charleston.

753
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 9: He made some mistakes, but he was he was in

754
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 9: pretty well, he did, yeah, but he was a pretty

755
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 9: he was a pretty famous general in his time. And

756
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 9: they the first flag they designed for the Confederacy looked

757
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 9: too much like the American flag or the Union flag,

758
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 9: and so the Confederate battle flag looked a lot like

759
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 9: and it was confusing in the early parts of the

760
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 9: Civil War, and there was a lot of confusion anyway,

761
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 9: if you can imagine.

762
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 11: How loud all that well, they were fighting over confusion,

763
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 11: right well, I mean there's a lot of I mean,

764
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 11: if you can imagine like thirty thousand men in either

765
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 11: army attacking each other in like a giant field.

766
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: You're like, wait, there's our flag.

767
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 9: Wait right there, smoke and there's like, you know, one

768
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 9: of the most I think the most famous Confederate general

769
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 9: of them all other than Lee, which would be Stonewall Jackson.

770
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 9: He died from friendly fire in the Civil War. Because

771
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 9: there was a lot of confusion. So the first Confederate

772
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 9: flag looked a little bit too much like the other one.

773
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 9: So then the stars and bars he designed and they

774
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 9: were they're more distinctive. And I mean I come from

775
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 9: a time where you know, if we had an old

776
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 9: lineman that was a white guy who was from you know,

777
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 9: the South, well not even the South, just inland like Norco.

778
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 9: You know, they put a flag up and listen to

779
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 9: country music and stuff like that. I don't know if

780
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 9: they really had a perspective on what it meant or

781
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 9: not meant. But as far as being involved with Nascar,

782
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 9: I mean, the the origin of NASCAR is bootlegging, yep, so,

783
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 9: which would be like souping up your car to outrun.

784
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 4: The cops cops.

785
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 9: On Southern roads to run moonshine or whiskey or whatever.

786
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 9: And so it's kind of got an outlaw sort of

787
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 9: vibe and a background and definitely a Southern background. So

788
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 9: if it's a Southern outlaw background, yeah, I would say.

789
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 5: Which is interesting because again, like the educational point there

790
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 5: to that is black dudes was bootlegging too. Black and

791
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 5: white people were bootlegging. It was all about the the

792
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 5: corn liquor. It was about that that shine. It was

793
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 5: about getting that that you know, getting that liquor to

794
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 5: where it needed to get to, you know, and you

795
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 5: get your money if you got it there.

796
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 4: Yes, so it was it was beyond it was green.

797
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 4: That was the color. It wasn't, you know, bootleggers.

798
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 9: I would say, I mean if LaVar had to uh

799
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 9: if if if LeVar, if you, if you had to

800
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 9: belabor the point, you would say that you'd be most

801
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 9: likely to see a Confederate flag in a masscar event,

802
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 9: perhaps more than an F one or an indie event.

803
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you. Yeah, that's fair.

804
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 9: Like I don't see all the backs were stopping Dutch

805
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 9: fans waving around the stars and bars and talking about,

806
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 9: you know, the Lost Cause theory.

807
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 5: That's correct, that is that is an accurate statement there, sir.

808
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 9: But you could look up Beauregard and they called him

809
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 9: because he was creole, they called him the black General.

810
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 5: So he was like, sup, perhaps this this flag will

811
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 5: be better.

812
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 4: So after this war, we need to go get home.

813
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: By the way, pet New Orleans for a time. You

814
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: mentioned Stonewall Jackson. If I have this correct, I think

815
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: he was one of the I think he invented the

816
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: cold shower, the cold tub treatment. That guy used to

817
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: in the dead of winter take cold showers to get

818
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 2: ready for battle.

819
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 9: Stonewall was an interesting guy, a very very religious, almost

820
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 9: like a Zelot, and he was a He was an

821
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 9: artillery instructor at vm I so.

822
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 7: Once.

823
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 9: I think they up until maybe ten years ago, they

824
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 9: still had his two cannons.

825
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 7: I think they're.

826
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 9: Biblically named there displayed. I think they still might be,

827
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 9: but they still have some Stonewall Jackson stuff at vm I,

828
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 9: and I think his house is a museum.

829
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 4: Interesting.

830
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: See, there's nothing. This is the best, you know, there's nothing.

831
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: Petro's doesn't know. We appreciate it.

832
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 7: I don't know who's gonna win the butters on.

833
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: Get him on X at the Old p and we

834
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 2: will do it again next week.

835
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 7: There he is the great.

836
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 2: Petros Papadakas with us here on Fox Sports Radio.

837
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 9: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

838
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 9: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and

839
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 9: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am.

840
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 5: Pacific, Camp I, Campa camp I, Campa Brady's, got it,

841
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 5: got that camper, Tell all of them, I get the camp,

842
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 5: break it up, bring it down, Camp By, Campa Brady's,

843
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 5: Campa Briday's, Campa Jonas, Camp d I made love to

844
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 5: a strip of Yes he did. Yeah, first you have to,

845
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 5: she said, I'm not quipon Quipan. They already they say,

846
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 5: Lorena coming, he comes like a stone.

847
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 4: Uh uh huh.

848
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 5: I bet you Lorraina is a big tipper one hundred percent.

849
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 5: I think that this is now.

850
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: It only takes fourteen singles, that's it. Heck, yeah, what

851
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: is that?

852
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 13: They still come to me?

853
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 4: Did you they still come to you?

854
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 7: Dang?

855
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: You worked at a restaurant, right, yes? Yeah, if you've

856
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: ever worked at a restaurant, you're a big tipper. You

857
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 2: just kind of know that world. Then there's something she

858
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 2: just said. She rolls with fourteen to a strip club.

859
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 2: I mean, why go in there if you're only going

860
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 2: in there with fourteen singles?

861
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 5: What?

862
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 4: Please tell me what the plan is with fourteen singles?

863
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 13: You find the one strip, give them away, man, and

864
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 13: you give her all fourteen of your.

865
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 4: Ones, like singularly.

866
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, make it rain.

867
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 5: No, you can't make it rain with fourteen singles the lightings, right, No,

868
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 5: you cannot. What do you mean it's impossible? Well, here's

869
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 5: as Well throws the dimes her.

870
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 6: Jonas goes and picks them up after he throws them downs. Correct,

871
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 6: you know he's he's breaking them up.

872
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 2: You know he's picking him up quick. That's that's throwing

873
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: it out there. That's the movie.

874
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 5: Jones throws him at his computer while he's holding the

875
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 5: mouse with his right hand.

876
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: You're right, left hand, you're right, yeah, I'm not good there. Yeah,

877
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: you just you throw them up in the air and

878
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: then as soon as they go to grab me, just

879
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: go he's got a gun. And then you just scoop

880
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: them all back.

881
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 13: Up and you take the first stripper I fell in

882
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 13: love with, who got my fourteen dollars is also tattooed

883
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Speaker 13: on my ankle.

884
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 4: It's very awkward.

885
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 2: Would you say the first stripper you felt that?

886
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 4: That may be that may be a curly hair, Oh

887
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 4: my god. Anyways, that may not. That may not be

888
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 4: the story we want to hear.

889
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 2: What do you mean her name or picture or what.

890
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 13: Like her image? Her likeness in a stick figure stripper.

891
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 4: Yes, she.

892
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 5: You were so guy you guys extending Nazi. That wasn't

893
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 5: it's it's inspired.

894
00:45:59,120 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 7: That was.

895
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, had a moment. Huh ya had a moment, A

896
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 4: lot of moments. Yeah, memorable moments.

897
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 13: For fourteen dollars.

898
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 5: That's crazy, man, cheaper in a movie. I mean, why

899
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 5: couldn't you just round it off to fifteen? Like, why fourteen?

900
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 5: What's the significance of fourteen? I'm just I'm confused.

901
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 13: That was just what we decided on that night.

902
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 4: All right, it's interesting.

903
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 2: Okay, that's interesting. I had no clue that was going

904
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: to take that turn.

905
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 5: But yeah, that one threw me off. I ain't gonna lie.

906
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,959
Speaker 5: I mean, just when I thought it couldn't get any

907
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 5: more bizarre. Then we go to a tattoo of her

908
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 5: on the ankle. That's uh wow, Well okay, there you go.

909
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. Let mean, let's see it, right, I mean, have

910
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 2: you posted that on your ig for?

911
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 7: Uh?

912
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 13: Uh No, I don't think I have posted my stick

913
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 13: figure stripper. I'll show you guys in the break.

914
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 5: I think you need to show it to us. Now,

915
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 5: come on, come show it to us. Now, give it a

916
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 5: little une. Come on, let's let's get a.

917
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 4: Look at this.

918
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 5: Let it is an in segment view of this this

919
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 5: stripper that you fell in love with.

920
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: It is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here

921
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox

922
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: with you hair on this Thursday morning. You can listen

923
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: to us as always on the iHeartRadio app and you

924
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: can find us on almost four hundred affiliates all across

925
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: the country. Is Loreta is now coming into the studio

926
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: right now. She's hiking up get in the middle of

927
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: her her bell bottom in between us yoga pants, and

928
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 2: she's trying to show us this. Oh that's tiny. I'll kids, please,

929
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: that looks like the Blair witch stick.

930
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 7: Please.

931
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: That's like you were playing Hangman and you stop midway through.

932
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 4: It looks like.

933
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Speaker 5: Lee did the did the tattoo. So I'll say, you

934
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 5: did not need a tattoo artist for that one, Lorena,

935
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Speaker 5: that was one.

936
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Speaker 4: Uh don't sell that online? No, no, no, God, So

937
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 4: Brady can see it.

938
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm not please.

939
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

940
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 5: If that's the likeness of the stripper you fell in

941
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 5: love with, I'm I'm just you know, no, I don't.

942
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 5: It looks straight like a witch hair. Yeah, that's not

943
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, no, I don't buy that one. But

944
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 5: I'm not one that looks like that looks like the

945
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 5: new image that goes on women's bathrooms. That is what

946
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 5: it looks like women enter here. You got to be

947
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 5: more clear with that stuff these days.

948
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you see it? Q? Did you see it?

949
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 2: I've not seen it.

950
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 4: You're not seen it. It's not come three.

951
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 5: I mean, you're not missing much. You're not You're not

952
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 5: missing much. That that that is a very short story.

953
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 5: It's yeah, that's just one of the something that's just

954
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 5: one of the worst things to say that this is

955
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 5: the reason why I got it.

956
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Speaker 4: If you're saying based off.

957
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: Of real quick, what age did you get that tattooed?

958
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 4: And how well was the tattoo artist the same? Maybe

959
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 4: me think?

960
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Speaker 13: Okay, hold on, hold on? Was that it was at

961
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Speaker 13: least it was at least eight years ago. Good, it

962
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 13: is at least years ago, And it was I went

963
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 13: to the Fits the Fritz in Anaheim. That's the that's

964
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Speaker 13: the strip club I went to, and then I got

965
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Speaker 13: the tattoo when I went to Vegas a few months later.

966
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Speaker 2: Yes, so you were so inspired you waited months.

967
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 13: Yeah, I had to design what we wanted, so.

968
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Speaker 4: You had to design that.

969
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: Please tell me you design.

970
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 13: And my friend put two different So mine's in one

971
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 13: position on the pole and his is in a different

972
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 13: position on the pole. But same same.

973
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Speaker 4: Girl is is in a different position. And uh, yes, I.

974
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 13: Have matching sticks figure tattoos.

975
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Speaker 7: All right?

976
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 5: Did you have a relationship with him as well? Was

977
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 5: this like a group thing?

978
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 12: Group?

979
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 6: Enough?

980
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 4: All right, y'all.

981
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 5: Clearly was on on something because is that stick figure?

982
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 4: Is not it?

983
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 5: I think she's cute, the stick figure? Yes, that's why

984
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 5: you put it where no one can see that? Bad

985
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 5: boy you?

986
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 4: Okay? All right, well there we go. Let's let's talk some.

987
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: Well, here's what we can see, shad Or Sanders this

988
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 2: weekend in the NFL. All right, Shadoor Sanders getting a

989
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 2: start for the Cleveland Browns. Everybody's excited he'll take on

990
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers and uh, people are really fired up

991
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 2: about this. But people are also concerned. Somebody that's concerned

992
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 2: about the whole situation is one Lewis Riddick of ESPN,

993
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: who said this about Shudor's opportunity.

994
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 7: I'm afraid he's.

995
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 14: Gonna get on the field in preseason games without a

996
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 14: lot of practice reps, and then they're going to ask

997
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 14: him to perform these heroic tasks in order to prove

998
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 14: that he's worthy of being a starter when he hasn't

999
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 14: had enough rep to really get comfortable. That's the kind

1000
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 14: of battle he's dealing with right now.

1001
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 7: I know.

1002
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 14: I've seen it. We've been in these camps. We know

1003
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 14: how that goes. You don't get enough reps. They play

1004
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 14: a whole half of the game, and then all of

1005
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 14: a sudden, coaches are going, why are you making that mistake?

1006
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 14: Why aren't you making that check? Well, damn, coach, I

1007
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 14: never was in there in practice. You never even talked

1008
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 14: to me during practice, But now you expect.

1009
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 7: Me to know. That's what they're gonna expect of him.

1010
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 14: But if anyone can get it done, it's this kid,

1011
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 14: because he's been trained the right way. But I'm telling you,

1012
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 14: he is ice skating uphill.

1013
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: So that is Lewis Riddicko.

1014
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is such a long departure from the truth

1015
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 6: and the reality. And what pains me about a take

1016
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 6: like this? And I heard this and I literally thought

1017
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 6: to myself, it's a lie, Like I want everyone out

1018
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 6: there to know that is one of the biggest lies.

1019
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 6: It's one of the biggest reasons why people get frustrated

1020
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 6: with ESPN's content is because they have people who go

1021
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 6: on TV and they say things that literally are not true.

1022
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: Let's just start off with this fact.

1023
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 6: Has it ever changed for a rookie that he wasn't

1024
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 6: gonna get enough reps before or they go into a

1025
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 6: preseason game in the history, in the history of the

1026
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 6: NFL draft, Like that's always been the case. Like when

1027
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 6: you're drafted as a rookie, you never or very seldom,

1028
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 6: I would say, what point zero one percent of the time.

1029
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 6: Maybe you're like a cam Ward, which even cam Ward

1030
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 6: up to a point this offseason, who is the number

1031
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 6: one overall pick, was quote unquote battling with Will Levis.

1032
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 6: So even he wasn't getting every single rep to prepare

1033
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 6: him for the first preseason game. But every single player

1034
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 6: isn't getting every single rep to prepare them for every

1035
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 6: single scenario.

1036
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 2: And by the way, that's okay.

1037
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 6: Like when you become a backup or if Shoud or

1038
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 6: Sanders ends up being the backup, do you think he's

1039
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 6: gonna get every single rep in the course of the

1040
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 6: season to prepare him for every scenario when he goes

1041
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 6: into a game.

1042
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 2: No, that's like part of the job. So I would

1043
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 2: look at it this way.

1044
00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 6: One, like the scenario he's playing out is such a

1045
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 6: long departure from the truth for every single rookie, not

1046
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 6: just Shador Sanders, which is what I hate about him

1047
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 6: actually saying this on TV at anyone giving it any credibility.

1048
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 6: The second thing is Picket's been out with the hamstring injury,

1049
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 6: Gabriel's been out with the hamstring injury, Flacco has been

1050
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 6: mixing in with reps. Two, they've all kind of shared reps.

1051
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 6: So in reality of all of the quarterback situations, just

1052
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 6: because there's a lot of bodies there, it actually doesn't

1053
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 6: mean at all that shad Door Sanders hasn't got a

1054
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 6: fair amount of reps and all sorts of different types

1055
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Speaker 6: of situations. The next thing i'd step two is it's preseason.

1056
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 4: There you go.

1057
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 6: Everyone understands that there's going to be mistakes made. Everyone

1058
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 6: understands there's gonna be a learning curve, there's gonna be

1059
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 6: adjustment to the speed of the game, and there's a

1060
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 6: lot that comes along with that. No one comes back

1061
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 6: from a preseason game completely chewing guys out. They're trying

1062
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 6: to teach, they're trying to get them to learn, they're

1063
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 6: trying to see improvement from game one to Game two

1064
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 6: to Game three. When they then want have to make

1065
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 6: a decision. It used to be until game four when

1066
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,919
Speaker 6: a lot of those rookies, young guys got to play

1067
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 6: a half of football. You know, they got to play

1068
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 6: the two minute drive going into halftime. They got to

1069
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 6: do the coming out series in the third quarter where

1070
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 6: you make adjustments, you script off some starters to go

1071
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 6: with and try to build momentum like that. So, like,

1072
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 6: I sit here and I listen to this, and I

1073
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 6: go I get people's frustration with ESPN's content because it

1074
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 6: feels like they're just throwing stuff out the wall to

1075
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 6: say stuff to try to get a reaction. In reality,

1076
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 6: it's so far from the truth. And also like talking

1077
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 6: about well he's been Yeah, he's played a lot of

1078
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 6: college football. He's been a start at Jacksonville State. He's

1079
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 6: obviously been a start oft called out of for a

1080
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 6: couple of years. He's got a lot of experience. Like

1081
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 6: he's started more games, Okay, he started more games at

1082
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 6: this point, if you look at college in comparison or

1083
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 6: over the last five years, he started more games than

1084
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 6: Trey Lance. Probably go back to his high school days,

1085
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 6: he started more games over Anthony Richardson and when he

1086
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 6: started one season at Florida and a handful of games

1087
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 6: since then Indianapolis. It's not like he doesn't have actual

1088
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 6: starting experience, granted at the college level, but running multiple

1089
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 6: offenses in multiple places and being successful doing so, so

1090
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 6: like it's almost like he's building this thing up to

1091
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 6: protect him for like whatever criticism may come. It's preseason. Yeah,

1092
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 6: it's ridiculous. I mean, I'll put it this way. The

1093
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 6: first preseason game I ever got into. Do you want

1094
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 6: to know when I got to go into the game

1095
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 6: fourth quarter, I was running a two minute drill the

1096
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 6: entire time, and people were like, Oh, it's because the

1097
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 6: hold on everything else.

1098
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 2: You know why I was able to execute.

1099
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Speaker 6: I think we went down for like two separate touchdown drives,

1100
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 6: did two separate touchdown passes. Because I'd been there for

1101
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 6: ots in mini camp. I didn't miss Jack Squat and

1102
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 6: Shador's been there for OTAs in mini camp, and Trandy

1103
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 6: Camp was just a rehearsal of the same stuff you

1104
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 6: already had. So to sit there and say that's an

1105
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 6: absolute lie, and he knows it. Like these coaches work

1106
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 6: with players, they try to build up players.

1107
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 2: It's entirely different.

1108
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 6: God of the days where you've got these organizations that

1109
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,439
Speaker 6: bring a guy in or spend a draft pick on them,

1110
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 6: and they just push them the wayside. They don't talk

1111
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 6: to them. That is such a long departure from how

1112
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 6: any cultures build on any team anymore.

1113
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 4: Most guys move with camp.

1114
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 5: During the first game of the preseason year, anyway, you're

1115
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 5: looking at the cheerleaders, You're looking into the stands. You're

1116
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 5: trying to see what you can see. Did anybody come

1117
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 5: to see you so you can see them? So y'all

1118
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 5: can see each other and look at each other back

1119
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 5: and forth. That's what preseason is really about, especially the

1120
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 5: first game, last game. I mean, let's be clear, you're

1121
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 5: not going I was being funny though, you're not going

1122
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 5: into a game game planning in the first game of

1123
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 5: the year. So to even put that type of weight

1124
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 5: on it, I would say, this is the one time

1125
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 5: where you would say you want to see a rookie

1126
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 5: play really well because it's going to be a vanilla

1127
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 5: approach to the game. You're going in there generally with

1128
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 5: a limited amount of plays that you're going to use,

1129
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 5: so you don't open up the playbook as to what

1130
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 5: it is you're going to do and what you're going

1131
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 5: to be when you get to the regular season. Those

1132
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 5: are the things you work on in practice, not in

1133
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 5: the game. So it's not even a prepared depth chart.

1134
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 5: There's no scouting report, there's no nothing for game one

1135
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 5: in preseason, so there's no reason to have put that.

1136
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 5: I can understand lewis putting the pressure on it to say, Okay,

1137
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 5: this kid is going to be measured and judged at

1138
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 5: a different level than any other quarterback that's a rookie

1139
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 5: in this situation. Maybe he's right, maybe he's wrong. It's

1140
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 5: not a horrible assessment. But what I will say is

1141
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 5: is to automatically say, well, he hasn't been in position

1142
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 5: to be successful. I tend to agree. I think that

1143
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 5: is an overstated way of approaching it, because again, for one,

1144
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 5: you're not game planning him, so it's not like you're

1145
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 5: going to roll coverages and disguise coverages and do certain

1146
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 5: things to try to confuse them and bring pressures from

1147
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 5: different spots on the field.

1148
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 4: You're not going to.

1149
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 5: Show those aspects of your defense because you don't want

1150
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 5: to put that on film. You do not want an

1151
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 5: organization being able to take that and add that to

1152
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 5: their scouting report. Okay, when they do this and they

1153
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 5: walk him down, they generally are blitzing from here. Oh,

1154
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 5: this is a trigger blitz type of situation. I have

1155
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 5: the back here, We're going to run an RPO. I

1156
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 5: see this. That linebacker is triggered. You know, he's triggering.

1157
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 5: He's rushing based off of what the running back is doing.

1158
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 5: If you're giving offensive coordinators that type of film and

1159
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 5: week one of the preseason, you probably won't have a

1160
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 5: coaching job very long. So to me, you come into

1161
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 5: the game. You have the opportunity to dink and dunk,

1162
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 5: do do vanilla things, maybe even take a chance, you know,

1163
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 5: maybe even take a chance and take some risk, because

1164
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, if it doesn't go right,

1165
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 5: all it is is a practice. It's a glorified practice

1166
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 5: against another team. What's the downside?

1167
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 2: A week ago, the conversation was, he's not gonna get

1168
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 2: enough opportunities. There's too many guys there he's fourth string,

1169
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 2: He's this, he's that. Now a week later, because of injuries,

1170
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: he's getting a chance to start their first.

1171
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 5: Preseason and you already saying stuff that that justifies if

1172
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 5: he doesn't play.

1173
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 4: Well, wait, like.

1174
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 2: This is all good. I don't exactly. I don't get it.

1175
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 6: And that's the other thing, like, is he gonna be

1176
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 6: more heavily scrutinized than cam Ward who's their starter going

1177
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 6: into the season. There really is no other option. Is

1178
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 6: he going to be more scrutinized than Tyler Shuck who

1179
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 6: they drafted in the second round of New Orleans And

1180
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 6: it's either between Spencer rather Jake Canner or Tyler Shuck. No,

1181
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 6: because those fans are looking at and being critical of

1182
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 6: the guys who are already gonna be thrust it into

1183
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 6: that week one starting role. I mean, Joe Flacco is

1184
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 6: not going to play at least not in this preseason game,

1185
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 6: maybe not at all this preseasons. Who knows, because it's

1186
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 6: gonna be the start of going in to week one,

1187
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 6: he's number one the depth chart. Now that's not going

1188
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 6: to change. This is really about whether or not Shador

1189
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 6: will be second third string depend on how this is

1190
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 6: going to work, and so it's all upside. This entire

1191
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 6: thing is completely upside for Shador to go in there

1192
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 6: and play.

1193
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 7: Well.

1194
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 2: So I just I sit there and I listen to

1195
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 2: stuff like this, and I go, yeah, I get it.

1196
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 6: I get why people are concerned with ESPN acquiring a

1197
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 6: lot of the NFL media properties an ESPN red zone

1198
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 6: and people saying like they're going to ruin it because

1199
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 6: they do like they put people on who have takes

1200
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 6: like this that are just factually not true.

1201
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting to me, and I'll leave it

1202
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 5: here at this that you know, Stephen A made the

1203
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 5: ridiculous comment and assertion that that Shador Sanders was comparable

1204
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 5: in ways to Colin Kaepernick, and I, you know, I

1205
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 5: came out said what I had to say about it.

1206
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 5: I thought it was a ridiculous assertion and that it

1207
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 5: shouldn't be comparable. Let the young man play ball. Don't

1208
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 5: turn this into like this racial thing where he doesn't

1209
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 5: get an opportunity. But when you have moments like these,

1210
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 5: when the media drives the narrative home that he's been

1211
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 5: set up and he's been put in a position where

1212
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 5: he can't succeed, it does kind of take on that

1213
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 5: that feeling of he's.

1214
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 4: Going to be mortared? Is that the right way saying it, Martyred,

1215
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 4: that they're.

1216
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 5: Going to put him in a situation where nothing he

1217
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 5: does will be him having to be accountable for it.

1218
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 5: And so when you look at it, while you're correct

1219
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 5: and saying, well, you know, the Shucks and the Ward

1220
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 5: should get all of the scrutiny, what's going to happen

1221
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 5: is is who's ever starting for Cleveland is going to

1222
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 5: get all the scrutiny because the scrutiny is connected to

1223
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 5: what is happening with Shador Sanders, because it actually grades

1224
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 5: out as a more interesting, more polarizing, more clickbait, more

1225
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 5: headline grabbing story as to what is the trajectory of

1226
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 5: Shador Sanders? When are we going to see Shador Sanders?

1227
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 5: That's going to be the over I can guarantee you

1228
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 5: one of the overwhelmingly strong storylines that will be in

1229
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 5: this season will be what is the progress of Shador Sanders?

1230
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 5: Where is Shador Sanders?

1231
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 7: Now?

1232
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 5: All of that pressure now creates the what is Cleveland doing?

1233
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 5: How is that starting quarterback playing? What is their record?

1234
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 5: What's justified to say that there's now the moment in

1235
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 5: time where you have to entertain what you're going to

1236
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 5: do with Shador Sanders. I do believe that will be

1237
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 5: one of the top three top five storylines all season long.

1238
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 2: Have you guys heard anything about Jalen Milroe this offseason?

1239
01:02:58,120 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 10: No?

1240
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 4: Really, not sins like since.

1241
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 2: Rooking many ca. You know, people were kind of hyping

1242
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 2: them up and now you haven't really.

1243
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 6: Although that being said, have you heard anything about anything

1244
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 6: much out in Seattle?

1245
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 2: It's just but like should like that's all the conversation

1246
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 2: is all surrounding Shador Sanders and now you got people

1247
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 2: sort of you know, laying the nest down for a

1248
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 2: for a soft landing just in case he struggles.

1249
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 5: It's just that's cloud chasing too, right, Like it's cloud Okay, let's.

1250
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 6: Let's pull back the curtain. We've worked in TV. We

1251
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 6: know how this works. They come up with a list

1252
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 6: of topics. I mean, you were in radio right now,

1253
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 6: and people will sit there and say, well, what are

1254
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 6: we going to talk about?

1255
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 2: What's going to grab the attention?

1256
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 6: Like I was just at a college football NFL seminar

1257
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 6: for Fox. And one of the things Fox does an

1258
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 6: incredible job of is they do surveys. They take a

1259
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 6: lot of the data and research behind how people are

1260
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 6: consuming their content, whether that's in broadcast television, cable television, digitally.

1261
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 6: And what was most fascinating about it is who do

1262
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 6: you think was the most recognized figure in college football

1263
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:08,959
Speaker 6: last year?

1264
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 5: Shador Sanders well coach but oh coach? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1265
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 5: by far and away. Now here's the here's the interesting

1266
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 5: thing of the survey they took. It was about sixty

1267
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 5: four percent of fans that were college football fans could

1268
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,439
Speaker 5: identify Dan and identify them as called as head coach.

1269
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 2: So as you start to break these.

1270
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 6: Things down, you realize that, like, all right, like you know,

1271
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 6: people followed them, they saw them, they they had this

1272
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 6: kind of idea of of you know, who called out

1273
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 6: it was who Shador was because of that really because

1274
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 6: of his dad. But I kind of keep going going

1275
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 6: back to this, is they're talking about it because it

1276
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 6: will grab people's attention because you know, he's recognizable and

1277
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 6: and you know, Shador's recognizable because he's Dion's son. And

1278
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 6: and so when you look at how they're creating something

1279
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 6: to talk about on TV this time of year when

1280
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 6: there's not much to talk about, this stuff gets thrown

1281
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 6: in there and then someone takes a passionate take like

1282
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 6: that where you're going, dude, this is this completely unnecessary,

1283
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 6: and it just it feels like, for some reason, you know,

1284
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 6: people feel.

1285
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 2: Like they need to do this and they don't.

1286
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 6: Shador has handled himself with the exception of you know, speeding,

1287
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 6: you know, he's handled himself exactly how you'd hoped he

1288
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 6: would and settle the right things and done all the

1289
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 6: right things. And you know, even for people at issues

1290
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 6: with how he conducted himself in Colorado, he it's not

1291
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 6: like he was popped for doing you know, bad stuff

1292
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 6: off the fields, just because he's got a different way

1293
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 6: of showcasing his brand and showcasing himself, especially when he

1294
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 6: has success.

1295
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 2: So I don't feel like there's any issue there at all.

1296
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 2: And it's almost like

1297
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 6: People are trying to stir up an issue or create

1298
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 6: an issue out of nothing when we haven't even got

1299
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 6: to a game yet.