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Speaker 1: R and b's money.

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Speaker 2: We are.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, take valotility.

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Speaker 1: We are the authority on all things R and B.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, what's going on.

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Speaker 4: My name is Tanks and this this this, This is

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Speaker 4: the R BE Money Podcast, the authority on all things

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Speaker 4: R and B.

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Speaker 1: Straight up.

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Speaker 3: And sometimes you know, it's not just a guess, it's

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Speaker 3: not just an artist. Sometimes it's just family along with

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Speaker 3: all of those other things, you know. Top tens, a

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Speaker 3: few albums, a bunch of shows here and there from Detroit,

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Speaker 3: but R and B through and through, make some noise

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Speaker 3: with my brother, mister.

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Speaker 5: John bro Yes, sir, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate that shaded fellers chilling, chilling.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, come on man, listen man, we are happy to

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Speaker 3: have your home, my brother.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: You're like a little brother of me. You know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, man.

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Speaker 3: And it's crazy, like like running back into you in Dallas, yep,

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Speaker 3: because we hadn't seen each other in fourteen years. I'd

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Speaker 3: have been fourteen, fourteen fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Since the session we had done fourteen yeah, Lee, And

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Speaker 1: when I saw you it was a meeting. I was like,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing here? What's on there?

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Speaker 3: Right, like I'm opening. I was like, no one told

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Speaker 3: me this, right right, but I'd always remembered you and

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Speaker 3: was like.

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Speaker 1: That was my guy, that was my little guy. That

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Speaker 1: was we did some work together.

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Speaker 3: We did, and then sitting down in that room and

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Speaker 3: having a conversation with you, you know, just about how

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Speaker 3: you felt about where you were and and what you

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Speaker 3: needed moving forward. And from that point on, you know,

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Speaker 3: my vow to you was, hey, man, whatever you need,

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Speaker 3: I got you straight up. And the first thing we're

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Speaker 5: I mean.

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Speaker 1: Definitely.

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Speaker 3: But listen, man, let's get into the you know, Army

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Speaker 3: Money podcast is about getting into the history of of

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Speaker 3: a of a of a guy, of a gal and

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Speaker 3: understanding where it all comes from.

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Speaker 1: Right you can say, oh thanks man.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the one thing you can say.

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Speaker 6: Look right now, we got some dynamic singers, right, yeah,

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Speaker 6: come on, you got to bring when you're.

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Speaker 1: You can sing.

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Speaker 3: And I want to get into the history of kind

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Speaker 3: of where it all started for you, and not just

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Speaker 3: your craft, Like where did that start for you and

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Speaker 6: It started my dad's church in Detroit, so rest in

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Speaker 6: Peace with my father, Pastor Brown started there was playing

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Speaker 5: And then from there I think, like I got to

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Speaker 3: How did you? How did you get a deal with

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Speaker 1: All right? See me that? All right?

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Speaker 6: So how I got to deal with Universal? There was

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Speaker 6: I was like, man, whatever, man, this is Detroit. Cat

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Speaker 6: talking no offense to Detroit. I love Detroit, but you

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Speaker 5: So I'm like, man, you know he playing.

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Speaker 6: Maybe two months later he introduced me to my manager,

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Speaker 1: And that was it, and they just called you.

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Speaker 6: They just called me, like, well, four labels called me,

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Speaker 2: So for for you as a young artist at the time,

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Speaker 1: So so they excited you the.

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Speaker 2: Most, you know, just in all honesty, brother, because.

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Speaker 2: So now, in hindsight, with that situation not working out,

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Speaker 1: When you look at your artistry, are you trying to

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Speaker 2: For the for the kids that are watching and them

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Speaker 2: just chasing that. But if you have multiple offers, you

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Speaker 1: Such, Maybe that works with what I do. You know what.

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Speaker 2: They have no one up there that that does what

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Speaker 1: Me, and I think artists don't. We don't. We don't stand.

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Speaker 2: Back and assess, just say, oh shit, y'all offer me

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Speaker 3: I'm go with that extra extra. That's a couple extra

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Speaker 2: So that's why I asked, because we try to be

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Speaker 1: That's that's true.

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Speaker 6: I mean yeah, So, I mean when you put it

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Speaker 6: I mean, y'all make sure y'all just know what y'all

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Speaker 6: to say that it was a bad deal, but I

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Speaker 6: just in any deal, in any deal, you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm really I'm really in this ship, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm professional now, I got this paperwork, I got this contract.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's got it's got terms

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Speaker 3: And you know I got to build and I can

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Speaker 3: go to where they know my name?

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Speaker 2: You think you can go to that too? Do you

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Speaker 2: think they know your name?

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Speaker 1: Who? If you call, I just gotta sign here. If

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Speaker 3: Debbie, is your dad not asked for the chairman? Does

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Speaker 3: his name Debbie mean anything? Nab Debbie, Debbie, Debbie Reynolds,

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Speaker 3: wieb Wire. So hold on, let's go back at sixteen

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Speaker 3: and what age? What age is this? Were you getting

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Speaker 3: the universal thing? That was.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen? Okay, so lets eighteen.

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Speaker 3: Let's go back a little bit. Yeah, fellow, at sixteen,

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Speaker 3: aren't you signing the White Cleft?

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Speaker 1: Johan?

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Speaker 3: Is that? Is that? What happens there?

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Speaker 6: Sixteen signed the Cleft and he came through Detroit. No,

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Speaker 6: so right, you know that ain't happening. So somebody knew

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Speaker 6: Cleft's cousin Jerry Wonder Jerry one day Jerry. Jerry was

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Speaker 6: how that deal kind of went. Moved to Jersey boom.

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Speaker 1: It was an.

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Speaker 6: Experience, you know, yeah, it was an experience. But cleft

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Speaker 3: How long was you in Jersey?

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Speaker 5: Like two years?

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Speaker 3: Oh oh, y'all was really getting into it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we were recording.

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Speaker 1: So when you're going to school high school?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, man, I transfer my senior year. It was crazy

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Speaker 6: we eleventh grade?

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Speaker 1: Did you actually do school work in Jersey to No?

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Speaker 3: I did it?

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Speaker 1: The truth?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, you moved this group from one place

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Speaker 6: to another city we've never been to.

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Speaker 5: We were trying to have fun.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 5: You know, young folks getting in trouble.

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Speaker 1: Enrolled in the New Jersey high school.

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Speaker 3: Only me.

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Speaker 1: Everybody already finished, okay, yeah, so when they're still hanging out,

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Speaker 6: Exactly, so you are new time. It was it was like, man,

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Speaker 6: this do they hang out all night? I'm trying to study, Like,

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Speaker 6: just come on, man, chill is. I'm like, all I

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Speaker 6: forget it. It wasn't a good experience in terms of

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Speaker 6: not doing my work, But overall it was a good experience.

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Speaker 3: You know, what did what do you feel like you

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Speaker 3: got from that experience or or got from Claff because

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Speaker 3: were you'll working with Jerry at the time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're working with Jerry now y'all where y'all at

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Speaker 5: Platinum Sound Sound and Booker Basement and hold on what

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Speaker 5: year two thousand.

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Speaker 1: One? Two? Okay? Three?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, so you're working with the guy? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: And so what do you feel like? First of all,

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Speaker 3: feel like was the part that didn't where it didn't

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Speaker 5: I think that what we learned from CLAFF was more

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Speaker 5: It wasn't my joy, it wasn't listen to.

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Speaker 3: What' me?

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Speaker 5: To play you with you.

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Speaker 3: Damn, what do we come on?

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Speaker 1: Let's come up with some good let's feeling then.

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Speaker 5: Get out of here, man, get out everything, just.

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Speaker 3: Everything to get uh uh evolve together together.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, evolved up together, eat together, Eat together together.

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Speaker 3: back home? Went back home, back to Detroit.

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Speaker 1: So you ain't been home in two years?

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Speaker 5: Two years? You just pop back up, back up. So

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Speaker 5: how does that go to?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 2: When you leave Detroit at sixteen, you leave your senior

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Speaker 1: I'm out y'all because niggas in the hood is waiting

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Speaker 5: Mean, you're going back home. People think you know you

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Speaker 1: Why y'all back, Like you know how I go.

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Speaker 3: I'm just here for a second and two until the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, it was yeah, because.

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Speaker 3: That going home, going home after because everyone at home

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Speaker 3: and at home is everywhere for everybody, right, going back

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Speaker 3: home after this quote unquote breakthrough. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: It's the hardest, hardest lesson man to learn from and

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Speaker 1: That was it.

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Speaker 3: I'm never going home. I was filling up a stolen

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Speaker 3: But I was not.

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Speaker 6: Going That's called determination, man, ever.

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Speaker 3: Damn but that you know, there's a different lesson than that.

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Speaker 3: I ain't go home, but I went to ranch a Cuckamoka.

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Speaker 1: Helped me out with that one. You see you see

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Speaker 3: And I definitely want the can. I was walking around,

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Speaker 3: he wasn't. He went over there. Did I have it

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Speaker 3: I'm not going home. So so now now we can

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Speaker 3: because that's how you get discovered pretty much just for

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Speaker 1: Uh, you're still young, you you know.

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Speaker 6: I was preparing to go to college at that point. Wow, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: So it's like it didn't happen. So it's like, all right,

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Speaker 5: what's the next option?

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Speaker 1: School?

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Speaker 5: So I went off to Grambling State and that was that.

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Speaker 1: But I kept singing what he went to Gramblin?

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Speaker 3: You singing that Gramblin.

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Speaker 5: I was singing that Grambling that did Oh it did something.

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Speaker 5: It did something, man, I'm gonna tell you it was.

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Speaker 5: It was an experience.

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Speaker 1: You a bunch of youtub gf there. Yeah, man, get

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Speaker 3: Everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: And so Gramlin State and then Universal are you doing

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Speaker 3: music there at all? Are like in the band up there?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 5: You just talent shows? But you doing talent shows shows.

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Speaker 6: And Gramblin Booze the bad. But I became popular after

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Speaker 6: singing your records. And that was that what you say slow?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 5: I said, maybe I sing maybe I deserve and I sang.

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Speaker 1: Slowly. That's crazy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they didn't get boot. No, they talked about that

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Probably, Yeah, he would probably have a problem with you

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Speaker 5: Oh man, well I'm a singer disregarding side.

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Speaker 1: But no, that was it.

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Speaker 5: And then from there a guy was working with Jahim.

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Speaker 5: He hit me up.

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Speaker 6: He apparently he worked at Gramblin. So I went out

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Speaker 6: work with Jahim, and yeah, man, from there, it just

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Speaker 5: But then coming back.

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Speaker 6: To school, just trying to stay busy with music because

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Speaker 6: again I'm a singer.

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Speaker 5: We're all singers. We want to keep doing it to.

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Speaker 6: Kind of keep that, you know, keep ourselves polished. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So when did you get into the space to where

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Speaker 3: you came to see us? What time was that? That was?

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Speaker 5: That was two thousand and nine, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I had a lot of time elapsed between that.

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Speaker 6: you asking what happened?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 5: So from there I was just on recording still talent shows.

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Speaker 5: And that's about it.

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Speaker 3: Were you're working?

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Speaker 1: I was working? Where were you working? You really want

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Speaker 1: to know that? Absolutely? Yeah, because the people people want

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you, I'm how thing go chicken?

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Speaker 1: You gave me the hook up? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I would because I used to go to the popeye'es

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Speaker 3: and they would give me extra tenders and extra fries, and.

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Speaker 1: The bus the same one, the same one. You just

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Speaker 3: Up the street from my mama house.

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Speaker 1: Wow. No, I love Pope, Yeah, oh yeah, they love They.

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Speaker 3: Treat me right, Oh yeah, they will the right person

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Speaker 3: with that, with that Marty Crown mustard, that must have

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Speaker 1: They got a good fact. Nobody messing with that.

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Speaker 2: So you're you're at Popeye's before or after the Universal deal,

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Speaker 5: So that's how it really gets. You may think you're

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Speaker 5: about to make it. Yeah, but you're back to the streets,

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Speaker 1: Hmm shout that you want to shout that Pope is out.

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Speaker 5: Many know, y'all eight miles and you know what you

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Speaker 5: do what you do giving away free food your ass

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Speaker 5: to I know you would have.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to run a business here what I'm trying.

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Speaker 6: To hook up my people? You know that made enough money.

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Speaker 6: It was a late night hour at there's a lot

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Speaker 6: of biscus. There's a lot of biscuits. It's a lot

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Speaker 6: of a lot of biscuits.

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Speaker 5: No, but still the man still, you know.

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Speaker 3: And how did you get out of Popeyes? Of course

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Speaker 3: they fired you. But how do you get from Popeye's

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Speaker 3: to to come and to see us?

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Speaker 1: So what record coming to where you are? When you

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Speaker 1: came to Republic? Universal Republic? He said, He said, Pope's

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Speaker 1: is after Universal Republic.

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Speaker 5: No Universal was before before? Okay, okay, the Republic is

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Speaker 5: after you get okay, right, that was the white Cleff

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Speaker 5: situation when we came back home.

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Speaker 1: You go to Popeye's after why cleft? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Well yeah, yeah yeah, don't judge me right now.

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Speaker 1: It's a little nobody listen. You gotta listen. You have

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Speaker 1: to work, You gotta take care of yourself. It ain't.

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Speaker 1: People get too caught up.

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Speaker 2: Emphasis on caught up facts with what kind of job

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Speaker 2: or where you like?

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Speaker 1: Bro do something to take care of yourself?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, it's important.

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna sit in that sale and wish you

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Speaker 1: would have done something else? Fact? To take care of yourself?

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Speaker 1: A fact?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, because we've all faced it

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Speaker 1: What what what the else is going for?

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Speaker 3: How much? Tell me how? What exactly do I gotta do?

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Speaker 1: I take the bag, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like everybody, our community, mention our community. Man, it's it's

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Speaker 2: it's actually the easiest way in.

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Speaker 1: They gonna lock.

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Speaker 5: Your ass up. Inevitably, if you keep going, they're going

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Speaker 5: to lock you up.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes you don't even make it to the keep

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Speaker 2: this feelings out here that got Oh man, I just

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00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 2: I just had it. I was hustling for about a

450
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:47,719
Speaker 2: week and also robusted. Yeah, so it's like, bro, I

451
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 2: respect it. Appreciate that absolutely, I respect it.

452
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

453
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 5: The sad part is some people don't respect it.

454
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 3: Taking care of yourself is a real thing, right, And

455
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 3: so what you learn about, you know, doing this doing

456
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 3: music is that it's creb. We just had this conversation,

457
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 3: Like doing music under duress is way different than doing

458
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 3: music because you love to do music, and so most

459
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 3: people go through this duress process where they're under pressure.

460
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 3: For them, they put the pressure on the music to perform.

461
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 3: It has to perform in such a way in order

462
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 3: for them to survive, which is a tough space to

463
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 3: make music from.

464
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like.

465
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 3: Having that job to make sure your bills are paid

466
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 3: will give you less time in the space. But when

467
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 3: you're making the music, making money is not on your mind.

468
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 3: Making music is pretty much when you get in front

469
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: of the chicken. You know what that is. I can

470
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: go a few different ways, you know, talking about wow,

471
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 3: but that job, that thing that I just I just believe,

472
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 3: we gotta we gotta, we gotta teach teach you know

473
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 3: anybody coming up in entertainment or anybody coming up in

474
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 3: any field that in the beginning is a labor of

475
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 3: labor of love until you actually become economically self sufficient

476
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 3: in that space. You want to do something to make

477
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 3: sure that you're okay facts, because it takes a toll

478
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 3: on the mind to be trying to figure out like

479
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 3: I had a baby early, you gotta feed the baby,

480
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 3: You got a wife early, you got a wife.

481
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: All of these things hit you hard, man.

482
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 3: So you you make you you writing songs like your

483
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 3: life is on the line. And most of us are

484
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 3: from that fire, from sleeping on floors and all of

485
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 3: these things. We're built in that fire. But something happened

486
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 3: when we were able to just really do this because

487
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 3: we love to do it. Something special happened. And don't

488
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 3: shy away from that. Don't shy away from that foundation

489
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 3: or making sure that people understand that part of the story,

490
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 3: because Pope's chicken is important.

491
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, for real, it got me to this point. Yeah,

492
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 5: it was an experience. So you go to Republic and

493
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 5: how do you get to us?

494
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 6: I can't remember her name, but I would always say.

495
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 6: She would always ask who's your favorite artist? So I'm like, man,

496
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 6: I say.

497
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 5: Tank said, who else?

498
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 6: I'm like, Tank, who else? Tank was like, you gotta

499
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 6: be somebody else. I'm like, well, I like James Brown,

500
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 6: you know, voice to man, of course. But she was like,

501
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 6: but who really inspirted Tank? So I ain't just saying

502
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 6: that because you hear it, man, nonybody knows when they know,

503
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 6: it's the truth. So she was like, oh, that's interesting.

504
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 6: I'm gonna see if I know him. I'm gonna see if

505
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 6: I can figure. I'm like, what, you know, you definitely

506
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 6: know who he is. She surprised me, went over to

507
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 6: was it Harvey Mason? I was knocked out. I never

508
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 6: forget this day. Man, uh Steve Burkle's name?

509
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 5: What's his name?

510
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 3: Again?

511
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: I woke up?

512
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 6: Man, I was knocked out because I mean you quite frankly,

513
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 6: you took a while.

514
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 5: You ain't you ain't come on time, but it's all right.

515
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: You came.

516
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 5: And then when you got there, you were singing like

517
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 5: who's this John Bryan?

518
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: Who's the joint?

519
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 6: I'm like that voice aren't familiar? And you started doing runs.

520
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 6: I'm like, nah, I ain't no Tank, and it was

521
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 6: you and that.

522
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 3: Was that was it?

523
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 5: That right, I think I think the floor.

524
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: Did you know it was at the studio with us.

525
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 6: He was there in the room like he was in

526
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 6: the weighting room or something like warming up some food.

527
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: I woke up, like Steve, that's my dog.

528
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 5: He was in there. He was like, yeah, you know.

529
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 5: Of course, I'm like making you do the article and

530
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 5: all that.

531
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: He's like, nah, you did I promise. But I'm young.

532
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 1: I'm young, man. Don't don't judge me. Don't judge judge that.

533
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 5: Don't judge me.

534
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 3: Man.

535
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: Listen, Listen to people.

536
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 5: It's a truthful moment.

537
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: But listen people when you see don't never do it.

538
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: When you see people that you you know you love

539
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: something that they've done or that you know you respect it,

540
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 2: just tell them that. Don't ask them like, don't run

541
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: up on Carlton talk about can you do the car

542
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 2: our files.

543
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: That were bare right, and asked him to do the

544
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: call to.

545
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: Don't run up on Julio White and asked him to

546
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: do the Earth Yeah.

547
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: You do it.

548
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: But he was cool about it.

549
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,959
Speaker 6: He was just like him a good day, I believe.

550
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 6: So I wasn't expecting that because this was my first

551
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 6: time really in La So I'm like dang what people

552
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 6: are really around When you came to the steps, I'm like, yo,

553
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 6: this is nuts.

554
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 5: And that was that. Yeah, what did we work?

555
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: What was the song? What's that song? Hustle Hard?

556
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 5: So hard?

557
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: That one?

558
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 5: Uh man, we did like four of them.

559
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: I got him somewhere too. I got those right, you

560
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: got full of those up, I got right. I know

561
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: hustle Hard was one of them. He was absolutely one

562
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, yeah, but.

563
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was excited. I was there, man, that was

564
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 6: my whole thing. Like I'm working with my idol.

565
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: So and so at this point you're still living in Detroit,

566
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 3: but you just flew into the sessions.

567
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

568
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: True, what is what? What came with those sessions in

569
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 3: terms of like the ones with you with the labels,

570
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: like your Journey recording those records.

571
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 6: Nothing happened with those records. Something should have happened with

572
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 6: those records. But I think people wanted to take me

573
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 6: in a different direction. And so yeah, that was that

574
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 6: asked me to deal ended, though I feel like we

575
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 6: had to write music during that time.

576
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 5: It would have been a little more sustainable.

577
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: So that deal ended too, unfortunately. Okay, Yeah, yeah, sounds

578
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: like me. I went from deal to deal man, like

579
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: we're done over here.

580
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 5: Yes, it was a rough one.

581
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 3: So what's the next So what is the next deal?

582
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 3: How do you get to the next place? And when

583
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: do you start putting out records? And let's get to

584
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: this top ten space.

585
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 5: The next deal happened after that. I stopped doing music.

586
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 5: I was done after after the university university public. Yeah, man,

587
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 5: depression set in, and it's real, you know, it hits you. Man,

588
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 5: at some point when you just figure out, okay, is

589
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 5: this really for me? You psych yourself out.

590
00:29:58,840 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 1: Man.

591
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 5: I was basically at war my ulf at that point.

592
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 5: You know.

593
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 6: The deal in this was like where do I go

594
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 6: from here? You know, because the focal point is music.

595
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 6: So it's like, if you're not focused on school, you're

596
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 6: not focused on working what comes next? So I was

597
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 6: just working a whole bunch of odd jobs after that pretty.

598
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: Much for how long? For a minute?

599
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 5: For years, years, funeral homes, all sorts.

600
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 3: Of stuff, the funeral home, like like with the bodies,

601
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: like in bombing the bodies.

602
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 6: No, but I was like an apprentice in a sense,

603
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 6: so I was there doing the process and everything.

604
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 5: So you like Brown pe Valley, I've never seen pe Valley.

605
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 5: I heard this story.

606
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do it do? Is we work?

607
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 3: He like?

608
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: He like we working at Yeah?

609
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 5: Man, I was just trying to make ends meet man

610
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 5: at the funeral home.

611
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 3: And here's and here's there's a question going back to

612
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 3: the you know, the real conversations. What are the people

613
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: at homes sang that know you can sing that know

614
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 3: you've had these stills.

615
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 6: And I mean I've heard stories no one really saying

616
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 6: thing to me. But you know how it goes like,

617
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 6: oh he fell off. You know, it's overform. He had

618
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 6: a few records, same stuff we all probably heard before,

619
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 6: you know. But again, man, it takes a toll on you,

620
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 6: you know, once you realize like, I'm not where I

621
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 6: want to be, you know. And so I mean I

622
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 6: would assume that's how some of the stories went, people

623
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 6: just talking crap about you.

624
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: But that's how it goes, you know, And what gets

625
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: you back into it the love for music. Man.

626
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 6: You know, my manager hit me up and I was like, man,

627
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 6: you want to get back at it. I was like, nah,

628
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 6: I'm cool because you It's like is it gonna happen right?

629
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 6: You know, based on those previous exper previous experiences, so I'm.

630
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: Like, am I'm straight.

631
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 5: He was like, man, let's just give another try. I'm like, nah,

632
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 5: I'm cool.

633
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 6: Go to New York, quught a few records, and I

634
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 6: had a top ten record within like the next five

635
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 6: to six months really after recording it. Yeah, who did

636
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 6: that record?

637
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: I don't know.

638
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 5: That's a good question. Good but I just record.

639
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

640
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 6: I don't know who wrote it. Someone else wrote it.

641
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 6: I sang it, and then uh yeah, he.

642
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: Just put it out.

643
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 6: Richard started doing this work in his magic Sunrod sunset.

644
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: And this is after how many years.

645
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 5: Off, twelve to fourteen.

646
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

647
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, so performing.

648
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 6: Everything, I was just like, yo, I can't do this,

649
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 6: do none of it. Nothing, nothing, just worked.

650
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 5: Just worked.

651
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

652
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 6: Man, I was depressed. Man, it was tough. When I

653
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 6: say tough, it was tough. So by the grace of.

654
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 5: God, man, I just.

655
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: Got that.

656
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 5: He brought me back to it. Yeah.

657
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 3: So that top five breathed the different life thing to

658
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 3: you though. It did.

659
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: Man.

660
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 6: But then of course there's you still has the tennis

661
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 6: like we're doing it independently, which by the way, is

662
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 6: a great thing, you know, but still, you know, I

663
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 6: still have these you know, these preconceived notions like will

664
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 6: it happened?

665
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 3: You know?

666
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 6: But then after that we had another one, and then

667
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 6: another one, and then another one, then another one, and

668
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 6: then I had one with my bro so five top.

669
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: Ten records, name them name the top ten red So.

670
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 5: Sunrise Sunset was the first. Give It to You was

671
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 5: the second.

672
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 6: Vibe.

673
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 5: No Moon was the third, Vibe was the fourth, Don't rush?

674
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: What's the fifth? So far?

675
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I get a little excited. So I missed, you know,

676
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 6: I'm miss calculated. Don't judge met.

677
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: With it was.

678
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: It's funny because I think we've all I've never taken

679
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: a fourteen year off, but I was. I was at

680
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 3: five you know what I'm saying, where I have to

681
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 3: try and figure it out straight because it was like yeah,

682
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: and I was at the point where I didn't even

683
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: want to go to seven yep, wow, Yeah, I didn't

684
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 3: want to give nobody no music. But I was like,

685
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: what else am I going to do?

686
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: Right?

687
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: I've gotten fired from every job I had. I'm no

688
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: good at nine to five? Yeah, man, am I gonna

689
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 3: train people? Like? What am I to do? You know

690
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 3: what I'm saying? And then I go into this space

691
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 3: to where you know, you know, I'm working with Fox,

692
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 3: and then you know, I meet the underdogs and then

693
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 3: meet Jay and then we just you know, the music

694
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 3: just starts flowing in that way. And finally I wasn't

695
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: the person that got me back into being an artist. Wow,

696
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 3: Harvey looked at me and say, hey, man, we should

697
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: do a tank album. I was like, why don't we

698
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 3: do that. Let's just do a tank Let's do some

699
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 3: thank song.

700
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 5: Your focal point, which is writing at that prod that's

701
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 5: all I had.

702
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 3: Label, label wouldn't wouldn't blink at me, insane, you know

703
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And so you know, an album like sex,

704
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 3: Love and Pain comes from pain, from really all the

705
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: pain I was going exactly during that time.

706
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: But also freedom also freedom too.

707
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: Though because you, like you said, you worked, Yeah, you

708
00:34:54,360 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: stayed working right, you found another space, which is tough

709
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: for a lot of artists as well, to say, especially

710
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: someone who's had success as an artist first to say,

711
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm all these great songs I'm writing,

712
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 2: I'm going to give them away. I'm gonna give all

713
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: my babies away to everyone else, and then I'm going

714
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 2: to watch, you know. I remember going to the Millennium tour,

715
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: seeing multiple songs that I wrote crazy, you know what

716
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: I mean. I'm sorry, I call it the millennium to

717
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: it now, Yes, scream to it. Seeing multiple songs that

718
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: I've written being performed by someone else?

719
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 5: So what did that do to you? I?

720
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: For me, you know, I enjoyed it because I was

721
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: I was never a uh, I was never.

722
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: A artist who looked at it from the space of.

723
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: These are just my songs and I can't don't touch

724
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: my I never looked at it like that. I never

725
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: had that that mindset so for me, but I had

726
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: also not had my own records at that point, you

727
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: know what I mean That that we're that were moving

728
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 2: and I, you know, he had already seen the world

729
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 2: and been performing these records everywhere. For me, yeah, I

730
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: had deals and I you know, I was working on

731
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: different stuff, but it wasn't like I knew that they

732
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: would scream different if I sang them got.

733
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: So I just I just embraced it.

734
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: But I'm like, damn, this is crazy, Like these people

735
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: fuck with right, I wrote about some situations, you know

736
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 2: what I mean, It's.

737
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 1: It's crazy, man, so I think.

738
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: But but having the freedom of being able to like

739
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: you said do it without distress because at that point,

740
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: during that point, we was having such a good time

741
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 2: at the dogs. Yeah, I mean we was having a

742
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 2: ball at the underdogs. It was really I didn't even

743
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: have a lot of money either, but it's a good time.

744
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: I was having a good.

745
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 5: Time, which made things.

746
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it just was. It was fun and

747
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: like back to but it was there was no the rest,

748
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 3: there was no pressure. We had enough for White teas.

749
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 3: We had White teas and Air Force one. I don't

750
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: know where they was getting these Air Force ones from,

751
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 3: but they were coming boxes off the boat, y'all. And

752
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 3: we had we called the Marshmountains.

753
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: We had a cack to You gotta imagine it's ten

754
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: at least ten guys up there that are just working

755
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: were we were a full machine. We were a full machine.

756
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: And it's this is what we're doing every day. So

757
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: like we had the people that would bring us to

758
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: white teas and they would bring them in fifties. Yeah,

759
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: they would bring White teas in fifties in a bundle

760
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 2: of fifty, and then you would bring Air Force ones

761
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: in a.

762
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: Bundle of twenty or third.

763
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: Everybody come get they want or two pairs that week

764
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 2: or whatever.

765
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: Did you have to pay for them?

766
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, but it was just it was delivered.

767
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: It was delivered its place bro like like the Edmonds

768
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: Building legendary, man legendary. It was legendary.

769
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: It was.

770
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 2: It was a good time and you know, people were

771
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: just being able to be creative and you know, ultimately

772
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 2: either get themselves back, keep that ship going, you know

773
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: what I mean, like come through there like whatever it was,

774
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: it was, you know, it was just a it was

775
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 2: a great moment in time. It's a great moment in time.

776
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 2: And look at you on the still yeah.

777
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: Still, but have a lot of fun, have a lot

778
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: of fun. Yeah, ultimately have a lot of fun.

779
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like we get to uh,

780
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 3: we get to now create moments. We're cultivating a really

781
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 3: cool moment with this right you know, run into you

782
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 3: my brother and say we need to do something. We

783
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 3: need to create a moment.

784
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: You know.

785
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 3: Taking a record that was for me, I'm.

786
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 5: Like, oh yeah, I'm still surprised at that this.

787
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: Will work perfect for John Brown. I like that record

788
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: a lot.

789
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 5: I know you did. I was like giving me this

790
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 5: when Travis sent it to me, I was like he

791
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 5: played it for me.

792
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 3: He was like, you know, I know you're still working

793
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 3: at just want to play because you know Travis is

794
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 3: real modest, play something. You know, it's just a vibe.

795
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if you feel if you're gonna be

796
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 1: on it like that, but you're gonna play for your player.

797
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 3: You played, I was like, I was like, I was like,

798
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 3: it's something in there. I was like, the vibe is crazy.

799
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: All you have every melody we need in the song.

800
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 3: It's just changing the structure just a little bit. I said, yeah,

801
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 3: I need this, and then I was like, no, I don't.

802
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: John Brown needs this. Wow, John Brown needs this. I

803
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 3: called you straighter, I said, we got one.

804
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much verybatim based on what you just said.

805
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 3: We got one and just you know, seeing you and

806
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: more walk in the building and like it was like

807
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 3: for you if for you, it was like when mom was.

808
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, this is really happening.

809
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 3: We're really gonna do this, and it felt like maybe

810
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: a bunch of people said they were going to do

811
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 3: some things. So maybe a bunch of people said some

812
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 3: things were gonna happen and we were able to actually

813
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: come through for you.

814
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, So shout out to you. Man, let's moment.

815
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: Did you clap for yourself depend as well?

816
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 5: For the moment?

817
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: I'm happy we were able to come through through for that.

818
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 3: It's crazy we shooting that video and I got sick

819
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 3: on that video.

820
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it was it was gone.

821
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 3: I had food poisoning for the next days.

822
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: That's nuts.

823
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 3: I was. I lost thirteen pounds in like four.

824
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 5: Days and still managed to record it or feel it rather.

825
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we got enough, but I was

826
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: that was a lots.

827
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 5: I was considering how you were feeling than you.

828
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 3: Brother.

829
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 6: Man.

830
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 3: It's gotta be there for my brother.

831
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

832
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

833
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 3: So what is after your fifth top ten? What is

834
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: your movement now? What? And how do you feel now

835
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: coming from all of these deals that you've been through,

836
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 3: coming from a twelve thirteen, fourteen year layoff, coming back

837
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: to now starting to you know, really pick up some

838
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: momentum in the space that you've always wanted to be in.

839
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 5: The move now is to keep going.

840
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 6: You know, we got my new album out, Chapter in

841
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 6: Versus doing pretty well, so shouts out to my team,

842
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 6: you know SRG, you know version, you know we're making

843
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 6: some traction. You know, we just dropped the deluxe version,

844
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 6: so it's been doing pretty well. Now we're working on

845
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 6: a new album, so it's just putting out music, man,

846
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 6: But prepare for a new single.

847
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: So do you continue to try to keep things in

848
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 2: the market, like, because you're working from an independent.

849
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: Sense basically, right, So obviously you're not waiting on you know,

850
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: release schedules and that whole.

851
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 2: Thing, are you or do you have like for you like, Okay,

852
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put something out every six months? I got

853
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: you know this content this like give us a breakdown

854
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: of how your business works of.

855
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 6: So, I mean I would say like every six months,

856
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 6: you know, because it takes six months for a record.

857
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: Well, I guess it depends on the life one for sure.

858
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 3: I mean we could say say six months and give

859
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 3: you something.

860
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 6: I would say every six months is constantly putting stuff

861
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 6: out because consistently is the key.

862
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: Right.

863
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 5: So I think at this point, considering we've had the success,

864
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 5: the only way to do it now is to keep moving.

865
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 5: So we're just putting our music.

866
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 3: Man, how's your road life?

867
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: It's looking good?

868
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 6: You know, it's there, not all the way there, but

869
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 6: it's there. You know, I'm happy, you know, it's it's

870
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 6: it's definitely a it's a process, man, I say that,

871
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 6: you know, but in terms of road life in general,

872
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 6: doing this thing, and.

873
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 3: How do you how do you feel like the fans

874
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 3: are responding to the music? You know what I mean?

875
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: Like when you sing your top five, your top ten songs,

876
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 3: do you see the do you see the excitement? Do

877
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 3: you see the word for word?

878
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: And I do?

879
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: I you can hear the mic out there and let

880
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: them do the rest. How does how does don't Rush feel?

881
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: That's a good question because I haven't been out there

882
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 3: for don't Rush.

883
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's the one. So it's a great feeling.

884
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 6: And I tell you that now that you can really

885
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 6: I think don't rush. No, I know, don't rush. It's

886
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 6: like that defining record and considering you on the record

887
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 6: with me. So like now when I perform people singing

888
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 6: it with me, it's.

889
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: Just like do you sing his part? I stay away

890
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: from it. Hey man, it's your song.

891
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 3: Man, you know what.

892
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 6: I just did a show on Buffalo and I attempted it.

893
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not gonna say at tempted it.

894
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 1: I did it.

895
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 5: But sometimes you get in your own head. But I

896
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 5: made it work. Man, it didn't work or I just

897
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 5: get a mic to the audience and they just sing it.

898
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 3: So who's going to show you? You did it?

899
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: In Buffalo?

900
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 6: This young lady named Mayvies. She's a dope artist. She's

901
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 6: from like North Carolina. She's really dope, so shouts out

902
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 6: to Maybe she's pretty dope. But it was just her

903
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 6: and I basically some guy named Dudley, old school calf

904
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 6: from LA but dope.

905
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 5: So show I mean, no, it was my I was

906
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 5: like the headliner.

907
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, headline, say a headline, you.

908
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 5: Know, shout out the Buffalo.

909
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 3: Because here's the thing, right, you know, I think success, right,

910
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 3: it can be defined differently for for anybody that you

911
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 3: asked this question. But the fact that you are doing

912
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: what you love to do again and that you are

913
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 3: finally having some some real success with it, you know,

914
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: that's defining, you know what I mean. And as you

915
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 3: as you fight for more, as you push for more,

916
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 3: to continue to go higher and continue to grow, you

917
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 3: know what I mean, like really really realize and and

918
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 3: and understand where you've come from, how far you've come,

919
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and and embrace it and

920
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 3: enjoy it.

921
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's stand on it. Yeah, you're right.

922
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 3: You went from from a fourteen year layoff to five

923
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: top tens.

924
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you feel like you can look at it

925
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: and say this is my career?

926
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 3: Now? Have you had that?

927
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 5: With all the great questions? Man, that's a really tough one.

928
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: Good.

929
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 5: It's funny you mentioned that because I thought about that yesterday.

930
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: I don't only look like a my rash right right?

931
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: Who do I look like?

932
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: No?

933
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 7: From fucking that's funny?

934
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: Seriously.

935
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I say no, I can officially say it's

936
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 6: a career. Yeah, I've arrived in a sense. Yeah, since

937
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 6: But I can say it's a career now, you know, because.

938
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: People get caught up in.

939
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: Thinking it has to be a certain thing other than

940
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: this is something that I love to do, takes care

941
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: of me, takes care of my family. I get up

942
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: and do it, and I can go find a gig

943
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: and I can go perform and you know, I mean,

944
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: I got records on the radio and you know what

945
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 2: I mean.

946
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: So that's why I asked.

947
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 5: No, that's a great question.

948
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 6: No, I can, like I said, I talked about this

949
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 6: the other day to a few friends, and I'm like, man,

950
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 6: I honestly can say that it's a career.

951
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 5: Now you have a career music that record, don't rutch,

952
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 5: I think that really.

953
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: Made it pretty much.

954
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, so thank you manap again.

955
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 3: No, no, we gotta get on stage, you know, you

956
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 3: gotta be somewhere, and then I just gotta when you

957
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 3: when's your next show?

958
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 5: My next show? New Year's Eve?

959
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's not gonna work.

960
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 5: That would have been dope. He's like, no, I'm already

961
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 5: locked down enough.

962
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: I got a gig, man, stay working. No, I got it.

963
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: And New Year's Day is my birth me and my

964
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 3: son's birthday.

965
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh wow. So you know we always find ourselves

966
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: somewhere tropical. That's funny.

967
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 5: Which one for your birthday? Which want your birthday?

968
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 2: More?

969
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:28,479
Speaker 1: More?

970
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 5: More more beanies, that's what I want.

971
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 3: Give me some different colors that.

972
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 5: Multi pack.

973
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 3: On the side, multi pack. Here's the funniest question. Here's

974
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: the funniest thing. So on on the plane on this

975
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 3: plane headed to Paris, when the kids went to Paris,

976
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: it was my plan, don't and and this young lady,

977
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 3: this little girl shout out to my guy Albie is

978
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 3: his daughter, right, And she has to be, you know,

979
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: one of them little kids that just just is a star.

980
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 3: And she's not even trying. She's smart, eloquent, uh, beautiful everything.

981
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 3: She has all the tools. And she's looking at me

982
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 3: and she's like, I've seen you wear that beanie a lot.

983
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 3: She's observing, No, no, fully observed.

984
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: She's like, do you like beanies? Yeah?

985
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 3: I think, she said, Wow, you have any other colors?

986
00:48:53,200 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 3: I said no. She's subliminally like, she's like, I mean,

987
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 3: since you like them a lot, you should probably get a.

988
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: Lot of colors.

989
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: I could see you in like a blue, white, maybe

990
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 3: a green. What do you think, like what I'm enjoying

991
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 3: the black beanie.

992
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 2: I have out here with a white bean like part

993
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: of snow patrol boy said, I said, listening from a

994
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 2: town where we just we wear dark colors, keeping you know,

995
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: the grays black.

996
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 3: You know, we stay around.

997
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: From the town.

998
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 3: She's like, you should do that.

999
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: You should get more beanies.

1000
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 3: I like the beanies on you, And so for the

1001
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 3: rest of the trip, she said, hey, beanie. I think

1002
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 3: one time we got on the bus somewhere said still

1003
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 3: rocking the beanies.

1004
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 5: I was like, that's she sounds funy.

1005
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 3: Maybe I want some beanies for my birthday. All right,

1006
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 3: where'd you listen? Let me know where you're gonna be

1007
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 3: after that and I'm gonna pull up.

1008
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: All right.

1009
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm holding you to that.

1010
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 5: I believe you know, you know if you said you're

1011
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 5: gonna do it.

1012
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 3: I can't wait to pull up, man, walk out there

1013
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 3: on that stage. I will now, I'm still you can't

1014
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 3: manage my turn up man and his show?

1015
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 5: What you mean?

1016
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: I was asking? Go ahead?

1017
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 3: Do you do push ups in between? Man?

1018
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: Man?

1019
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 5: That what they call it?

1020
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: In and out? It's it's still calling different. It's a

1021
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: tough one.

1022
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 5: It's a journey. It's a journey, man, it's a journey.

1023
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 3: All right. Listen, man, I want to get into your

1024
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 3: R and B mind. Oh yeah, we'll get into your

1025
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 3: R and B mind. You know you sing the R

1026
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 3: and B. You got you got to try to records

1027
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 3: in the R and B. But do you really know

1028
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 3: R and b?

1029
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1030
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 3: Let's get into this top five segment. Oh, there'll be

1031
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 3: theme music soon, So.

1032
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: I figured I was waiting. I was waiting for it.

1033
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 3: Is that the same Music's got a lot of porn

1034
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 3: on it, a lot of Ron Jeremy on that shout

1035
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 3: out to Pinky.

1036
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: I grew up on Pinky. Pinky was Vanessa Dale real

1037
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: amount of time.

1038
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 3: Wasn't that a time obsession? Anybody want to talk too far?

1039
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 3: We're getting in the top five? Is my brother? Who's

1040
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 3: your top five R and B artists?

1041
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: All right?

1042
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 6: Before I say this, don't take no offense to it.

1043
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 6: You mean to the viewers you're five top no specific order.

1044
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 3: Though, right the order your world?

1045
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: The top five.

1046
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 5: Teddy Pendergrass.

1047
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 6: Strong, Oh sure you got to do that? Genuine the

1048
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 6: wine my guy r Kelly? Yes, it are we four

1049
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 6: right now?

1050
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 3: Four? Four?

1051
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 1: Tank and tank round it out? It's tank. Yeah, it's

1052
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: helpfulest helpless.

1053
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 5: I mean that's my five.

1054
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 3: You had the beanies on from.

1055
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 5: The multi pack multi is gonna fit.

1056
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: Like on side bad word?

1057
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 5: Roll up after the second man?

1058
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 3: All right?

1059
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: Top five R and B songs? Oh dang.

1060
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 5: Does the matter of the year?

1061
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 1: No? Top five?

1062
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 5: All right?

1063
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 6: Uh b BC? All right bye? Is that before six

1064
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 6: A twelve? In my opinion? Six A twelve by Brianny Knight.

1065
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 6: Oh wow, that's one of my favorite records. Uh guy,

1066
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 6: why am I forgetting the name of It's gonna help

1067
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 6: me out?

1068
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: Slow, let's chill, let's chill. Love that monster record. Maybe

1069
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: I deserve mm hmm records.

1070
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 5: Okay, right, one who sings that.

1071
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 3: Start treating different?

1072
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 5: Nope, Nope, I don't want to say that one.

1073
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 3: You can if you want to.

1074
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: Your body's calling me R Kelly. Great record, great record.

1075
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: Did already say R Kelly before he did? Type of artists?

1076
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: I'm bad, you're good?

1077
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 5: What that song is?

1078
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: Just dope? Yeah, h sweet lady.

1079
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 2: Great R and B record, Great R and B record

1080
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 2: written by a young man, young man fifteen sixteen, a

1081
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 2: young man who John also was a kid when he

1082
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 2: was like fifteen that record. Yeah, he was a kid

1083
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: kid when he about that record.

1084
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 3: All right, that's he's a monster monsters monster song.

1085
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: That's nuts. I never knew that.

1086
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 5: And no offense, but I mean obviously I know, but

1087
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 5: I'm just saying I didn't.

1088
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: Know that you got joints.

1089
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 3: He'll surprise you crazy, he's surprised neo versus mm hmm.

1090
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: He was like, you did that.

1091
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 5: That's nuts. Just drank his wine, right, humble, Yeah I

1092
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 5: did that? Yeah, all right, Okay, we're not done. They're

1093
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 5: gonna put together RM both trying mm hmm.

1094
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: Right, and.

1095
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 3: Who are you going to get the vocals from performing style,

1096
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 3: styling and passion of the artists who are you going

1097
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 3: to get the vocals to build your RMB.

1098
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: Artists one artist, one artist, thank you.

1099
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 5: Whatever happens, gonna say this, I'm gonna keep it on

1100
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 5: with you, like so you're gonna learn to respect them.

1101
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 6: So so I'm not just saying that because I'm on

1102
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 6: their podcast.

1103
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 5: I'm just being brutally hones.

1104
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: That's just his podcast. On that side, I ain't saying.

1105
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 6: We're gonna we're gonna do a merger right now, but

1106
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 6: but vocally, I feel like you would definitely know where

1107
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 6: to go.

1108
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 1: So I've been trying to get some respector Ryan for long.

1109
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 6: I know I could get some better snaps, some cheesus

1110
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 6: ain't really.

1111
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 3: Who are you? Who are you getting the performance style from?

1112
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown?

1113
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 5: If you could do that, boy, boy boy, they're lucky.

1114
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:09,919
Speaker 3: I can't do with Bobby Brown.

1115
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 5: Bobby is crazy?

1116
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 3: You kidding me?

1117
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: Okay, thank Bobby?

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00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 3: Who you who you're getting the styling from? What do

1119
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 3: you want the artists to look like?

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00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: That's a good question.

1121
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 3: When you look on stage, we'll be having that ship.

1122
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 5: A lot of people can dress man. That's a tough one.

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00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

1124
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 5: Keep sweat yeah, yeah, I mean sweat crazy or yeah, sweat.

1125
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 3: Sweat is the gentleman on stage.

1126
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know I'm gonna lift I'm gonna lift my foot, baby,

1127
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 2: so I can see these red.

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00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: You know, you see it. You know you know once

1129
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 1: I kicked Miami, it's time.

1130
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 3: I'm changing three times. I know I'm the only changed twice.

1131
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 3: They know I got it on me right. And then

1132
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 3: who You're getting the passion from the heart of the artists.

1133
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 5: Jeller Bert Mmmm yeah, one of my favorite performers and singers.

1134
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, little verb. He didn't miss no the god. No,

1135
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: he didn't miss crazy. He did miss Yeah, he didn't

1136
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: miss m hm.

1137
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 3: He got the same reaction with his clothes on, better

1138
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 3: reaction with his clothes on. My clothes off.

1139
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 5: He's crazy, He's crazy.

1140
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: Usually you got man, he's just a guy.

1141
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, facts, it's a guy that's a great volt run

1142
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: and it's pops oh man.

1143
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's over.

1144
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1145
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 6: His dad is yeah, insane Eddie Eddie.

1146
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: So we got another segment, another, another very very very

1147
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 2: important segment.

1148
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: It's called I Ain't saying no names. You know what

1149
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: I mean?

1150
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: And you've experienced this business, are you know? Are the

1151
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 2: streets of Detroit either.

1152
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 5: One potentially get me I don't know, brother, I don't

1153
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 5: know stuff.

1154
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1155
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 2: You tell your story how you won't tell your story?

1156
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 2: All right, it's called I ain't saying no names. And

1157
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 2: the story can be either funny or fucked up or

1158
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 2: funny and fucked up. The only rule is you can't

1159
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 2: say the names of the people in the story that

1160
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 2: maybe did the ship to you?

1161
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 3: Are you know?

1162
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: For you whatever? Mm hm, no name. The other participants

1163
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: cannot be named. M hm.

1164
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: So this right here is John Brown's I ain't saying no.

1165
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: Names one person.

1166
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 6: But in the industry, your world, do what you do,

1167
00:58:55,120 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 6: all right, no rules, I ain't saying no names. Start

1168
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 6: off like that. I wasn't the one who slept with

1169
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 6: your girlfriend, flat out, that's it.

1170
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 5: I was the one slept with your girlfriend after that show.

1171
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, now we.

1172
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 5: All know who did, but you know I wasn't the one.

1173
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 2: Good.

1174
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: That's actually pretty good.

1175
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 3: It wasn't the story.

1176
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 5: It wasn't me.

1177
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 3: It wasn't me.

1178
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 5: It was not me. No, if you're watching, they definitely

1179
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 5: wasn't me.

1180
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't me.

1181
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 5: You think it's me, he still do, And it wasn't me.

1182
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 5: You asked, was it you?

1183
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: No?

1184
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 6: No, no, I've never been that type of dude. Okay,

1185
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 6: we know who did it though we know you know.

1186
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about it. I wasn't

1187
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: on that to it.

1188
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 5: But no, that was that that Yeah.

1189
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we'll look here man. And of course you

1190
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 3: are brother man, you know you, you your family, you know.

1191
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 3: Having you here goes without saying, there's more for you, man,

1192
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 3: thank you. It's more. It's more for you to do

1193
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 3: and really aggressively get to it. Yeah, don't let don't

1194
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 3: let these moments pass you by without taking advantage of

1195
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 3: every single part of it and inserting yourself if no

1196
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 3: one is willing to insert you into whatever conversation or position,

1197
01:00:55,040 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 3: that that is aggressively. Because now the conversation it's different,

1198
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 3: and it's not you know, it's not what I think

1199
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 3: I can do it. It's motherfucker let me I can

1200
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 3: do it. I'm doing it exactly. Your hand has to

1201
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 3: be raised different. Yeah, your conversation gotta feel different. You're nice,

1202
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 3: You're a nice You're a nice guy. You nice, humble

1203
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 3: nick and you got five top ten records. Yep, last

1204
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 3: time to act like it.

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01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 6: My god, take what yours, my brother, My god, I'm

1206
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 6: gonna take it, man, I believe it.

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01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm ready.

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01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 3: Be sure.

1209
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 5: I'm positive.

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01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: I'm here. You have me here, y'all, I have me here.

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01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm here. There is we want to see that you gentlemen.

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01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,400
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01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 3: the R and B Money Podcast, the authority on all

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01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:58,880
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01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:03,840
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1216
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: you think the journey is over.

1217
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 3: You can start all over again. It'd be top ten,

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