WEBVTT - Ep. 019 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:05.279 This is the Meat Eater podcast or broadcasting. We're not broadcasting. 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:11.920 We're recording in Napa Valley, California. And where where I'm 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:17.160 drinking the cours drinking a Coors and Napa Valley, California. 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:22.560 But but I'm here with um J Honese. Tell us 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:25.360 he's drinking himself some red wine. Is that the fancy 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:28.280 red wine we just got drinking very fancy red wine. 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:32.760 Mike wash Leski drinking very fancy red wine. Last night 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:36.519 he was drinking beam and coke, which is very not fancy. 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.040 He's not drinking fancy red wine. We're in nap because 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:44.000 we're hunting. Uh, this isn't what we're talking about tonight. 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:46.880 But we're in nap because we're here hunting turkeys. And 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:57.279 this morning, Um, I killed the UH world's most biggest 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:04.360 cage ist while he unkillable turkey to have ever graced 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:10.080 God's green Earth? Would you agree with that? You know? Yes? 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:17.319 For real? Rio Grande turkeys, cag turkey, kg Rio Grande turkey. 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:21.800 This turkey, I don't love how, I don't know how 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:25.319 much I want to get into this, just so it 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.880 was it was a cool turkey hunt. Oh it's it's 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.520 what it's textbook, it's what you want. We didn't get 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.319 to waltson there call him right in off the ruse. 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:35.319 We had to set up on him three different times. 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:37.920 He gave us the old loop de lube. You know. 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.880 We decided to change positions. Next time we call, he 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:45.680 gobbled from literally probably standing where you were sitting next 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:50.000 to that. Yeah, I'll I keep trying to prevent myself 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.120 from getting into talking about this turkey much. We're gonna 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:56.160 talk about something different, but um, this turkey man. I 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:58.800 was calling him, and every time I call, he just gobbled, 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.600 you know. And that gives you a power trip as 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:06.720 a turkey caller, because turkeys all they do is manipulate you. 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.400 And when you realize that you're manipulating a turkey, you 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:13.040 can't help yourself but not do it. It would be 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:18.120 like if you push the button, you know, and and 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:22.640 some machine, I don't want to say inflated you, but 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:26.400 some machine gave you a BackRub. Right, you keep pushing 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:29.440 the damn button and when you got a time, that's 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.280 just gobbling like mad. Every time you call. You call 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:36.400 too much. So we finally decided to move and maybe 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:38.280 we can call him in a different direction, or maybe 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:40.320 there's something hanging him up that we can't tell what's 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:45.520 hanging him up. And we move, and that that prevented 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:50.320 me from calling for fifteen minutes. So I'm silent for 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:52.120 fifteen minutes. By the time we move and get set 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:55.920 up again, and I call that gobbler calls. They yeah, 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.760 from like probably right where I was had been sitting 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.120 the whole time, because he got to be like, I 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.560 can't believe that Hen Gobbler, or that I can't leave 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:08.680 that Hen turkey is ignoring me, and he went down there. 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:12.160 So then I proceeded to call to him again too much, 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.480 and eventually started checking my watch and trying to make 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:19.079 myself let ten minutes go by without calling. And then 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:24.560 that turkey showed up and he got shot, big old 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:28.760 long spurs, one of them was busted off. The honest 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:34.680 was jealous inch and a half plus thick basses. He 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:38.040 was a warrior. You know. We're joined by Mike wash 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:42.160 Leski of the Texas Coal Hunters Association. I know so 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.960 little about Texas hunting that I thought that was a 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:49.040 real sticker. No, yeah, I mean it's a real sticker. 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:54.000 It's a real t shirt. Explain, um, try to explain 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:59.200 why that's funny. The Texas Call Hunters Association is a 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:01.760 mean I got it from a buddy of mine who 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:07.360 I go hunting with, and it's might means yeah, yeah, 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:12.760 in an apartment still yeah, drinking beer and uh you know, 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:16.560 showing up at the appointed time and uh, you know, 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:21.160 seeing what shows up. So yeah, you know, I mean 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.279 that's that's what's afforded to me. So I take advantage 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:26.120 of it. And uh so the the Texas Coal Hunters 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:30.159 Association is it's not really an association. It's more of 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.360 a response to all the guys with pickup trucks that 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:37.400 have you know, these stickers like what is the trophy trophy, 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:43.800 you know, trophy hunting Texas. Yeah, well, I'm sure there 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:45.359 are a bunch of nice guys, but it's more of 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:49.560 about the you know, it's you can't eat the antlers, 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:52.400 and it's a response to the fact that you know, 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.240 some people hunt for the meat and even though we 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:59.800 do it, you know in our looking Yeah, yeah, well 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:01.600 I mean it is yeah, you know, you know, it's 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.840 it's for us. And where I go in Rock Spring, Texas, 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:08.000 it's it's game management and you know, it's not I'm 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.440 not allowed to shoot the bucks that show up. So 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:13.160 it's just this giantees. You know, they're constantly rolling in there, 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:14.600 and it's just like, wow, that guy is gonna be 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:16.520 great a couple of years and that guy is really great. 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:20.520 And so how can you determine who's a cold buck? Uh? Well, 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.960 it's based on the biologist comes out to the my 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.719 buddies place, who has is a you know, has a 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:31.560 share in this like eight thousand acres and so they 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:35.800 just want to bring people up to speed. So let's 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:37.560 say you got a chunk of ground. You're trying to 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:44.560 manage it because you want big, huge bucks, right, Um, 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:47.000 so you tell dudes who are hunting out there not 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:48.640 to shoot the box because you want them to grow 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:52.120 up to be big. But cold buck and I don't 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.560 really I understand. It's a little bit. But Mikeson explained 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:59.680 great detail. A cold buck would be a buck that you, um, 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.840 you're selecting out. You're doing like selective breeding like a 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:06.800 farmer rancher might. Yes, you know, like you got a 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:10.800 buck with bad some kind of undesirable characteristic, right, like 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:15.599 he'll have not a symmetrical rack, or he could be um, 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.000 you know, five or six years old with only you know, 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.520 two forks like thick base but just like nothing that's 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:24.039 you know, special, and they hang a tag on these 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.880 ones or something. No, no no, there's no tax. Nobody's nobody's 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:30.560 actually tracking the animals. The biologist doesn't fly by an 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:31.960 he looks at the health of the herd and stuff. 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:33.440 He's like, you need to take this much from this 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:35.559 parcel of land as far as like this many does. 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.320 And so I'm not a family member, so I don't 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.000 get to hunt the bucks. They get to you know, 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.200 they get to you know, if they want to, they 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.080 can go out there and they're a lot of just 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.039 based on the population, you know, you can take this 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.400 many mature bucks. And so they you know, that's for 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:52.880 you know, their family, you know, I guess higher level 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.240 family friends and you know family members and stuff. But 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.840 so I said, now, I mean I go out there 0:06:57.880 --> 0:06:59.240 and I help work to lant and stuff, and I 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.760 get to take his you know, my allotment of does 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:05.280 so well this you're sitting out there and shut that's 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:10.720 different property. Yeah, that's that's my dad's friends, uh place 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:14.239 in junction, and that that is that is entirely different. 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.360 I mean, that guy doesn't even haunt. Let's just just 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:18.120 go out there and you know, see what kind of 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:22.160 wildlife is around. But you know that you're able to 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.880 make the call on what's a cold buck well. I mean, 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:26.800 there's if they trust you to be like, oh, that 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.160 one's not symmetrical. Well, they have game camps and you're like, 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:31.360 well this guy right here, look for this dude. You know, 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:33.640 they're like, they're kind of inspecting them and stuff. They're 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:38.040 like and and I'm terrible at what is it aging 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.120 on the hoof? Right? I mean? Is that the term 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.120 and stuff feel right? And so I feel, you know, 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:46.720 I never really feel um, you know, comfortable. I'm like, 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:48.360 because you know, I'm like, well, that guy, you know, 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.360 he's the wrong shade of brown. I should probably shoot him. 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:53.680 And that's not necessarily the right thing to do, So 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:57.000 you know, I always feel really just real tentative about 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:58.840 even doing that. And I had an opportunity this past year, 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.040 and then three elk run run and and scared everything away. 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:04.960 The one I was about to take. Yeah, yeah, three 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.840 they were yeah, and they thought that they had gone 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.640 off the property, but they I guess there's a you know, flourished, 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:14.680 not I wouldn't say flourishing, but a small population that 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.480 is starting to grow. So they're trying to help them out. 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.840 So yeah, those are definitely off limits. But um so, 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:24.400 I mean dear to shoot this year in Texas. I 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:29.480 think three dolls November. But I have a feeling though, 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:33.080 just to speak to his Cold U Hunters Association, that 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:37.640 it could help you get more hunting rights or access 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:41.720 at some point. Right it's like cast around. They're like, yeah, 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:43.600 this guy likes to just come out and shoot. Does 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:47.080 like me. Someone might say, Oh, nobody in our family 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.800 does that, you know, you know, well, I mean my 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:51.839 buddy was just he was like, I'm I'm tired of 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.440 having to shoot all these deer and cleaning myself. And 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.720 so you know, he's he's brought his friends, you know, 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:58.360 out for the past couple of years, and so you know, 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:01.280 I help, you know, with with you know, taking care 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.080 of the you know, the water and uh we build 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.400 like you know, rain cashment systems for the livestock and 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.040 or the agg exemptions and stuff, and you know kind 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:11.600 of take care of the lot of the the you know, 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:13.560 the animals and what we can do just in general 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:15.400 to help him out throughout the year. Especially they've had 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.320 some really bad drought for the past couple of years, 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:19.840 so it's you know, they're just getting kind of hammered 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:21.480 and just helping them with protein and stuff like that 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.640 so that they can sustain through the really hard times. 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.520 So you know, in that situation, he just got tired 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.760 of being the only guy in his family that really 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:30.920 hunted and had to manage the property because they just 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:32.800 hit the rest of his family members just come out 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.120 there and just like oh yeah, that buck right there 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.560 and bam, you know, as opposed to like, you know, 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:39.760 putting the time in through the rest of the year 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:43.080 to you know, do all the the hard work, you know. 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:45.880 And uh so, yeah, that's kind of where that's that's 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:47.480 why I do. I mean, you know, it puts meat 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.120 and my freezer, and you know, we don't we don't 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.559 walk anywhere. We take a plaris and roll up there, 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:57.079 and i'd i'd probably I want to do the same thing. Man. 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.679 It's definitely well if I yeah, like if I live 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:04.280 some and the guys like, hey, someone's gonna shoot these deer, Yeah, 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:07.000 you want to come to shoot him and have him right, yeah, 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.079 And and that's you know, I mean I don't own property, 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.040 and so that's you know, have the least. And so 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:14.400 that's how I landed gentry. Turn from history class. The 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:18.240 landed gentries just passed down through generation, right yeah, and 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.480 that's and I don't you know, I'm not afford the opportunity, 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.320 so you know, like yeah, come out and poor Mikey 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:25.320 he spends a lot of time running around the woods 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:30.520 an army surplus. Do definitely don't have a big old ranch. Definitely, 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.640 don't you know yan Yanni's idea about that? You know, 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.040 still this is the still isn't you? Still don't you 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.320 listeners still don't know what this podcast is about because 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.240 it's not about this. But Yannie had an interesting point 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:47.200 where Texas Coal Hunters Association would be a way you'd 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.720 get in on hunting. And it reminds me this dude, 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:53.080 I know, and this isn't what the podcast is about either, 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.280 but this dude I know who has started this group 0:10:56.320 --> 0:11:01.319 called Backyard bow Bro. If you like in you got 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:06.160 all these people in suburban environments right like bowl only areas, 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:08.520 you know, we can only hunt with a boat, like 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:10.839 for instance, like most of Long Island, New York. Right, 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:12.480 that's not where he's at, but it's a place like 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.120 you can bow hunt, you can't go on hunt. So 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:18.679 he started this group where the group you become a 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.240 member of Backyard bow Pro. And to become a member 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.400 of Backyard bow Pro you gotta go through a background 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:29.520 check and you gotta pass archery proficiency test. So mugs 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:33.520 who have problems with white tailed deer and their orchards 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:36.040 or in their gardens whatever and wish they could get 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:40.240 rid of some white tailed deer call Backyard bow Pro 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:44.440 and get teamed up with a dude who is like 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:49.560 a reputable guy who's demonstrated proficiency with his boat, so 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:52.880 he's been vetted to take care of the in a 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:58.319 crank it out on deer hunting permissions. Northering they do 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.080 is they got people who don't and won't hunt, and 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.839 they'll go out and get the place right the permission 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.160 hunt deer caught up some of the deer, bring the 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:14.040 landowner venison to try. Then they use it also for 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:17.480 fundraiser stuff. They keep some they give us on the 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:21.920 food banks, but they'll bring in like they don't bring it. 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:25.000 They'll go get the stuff processed and bring ready to 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:30.440 eat processed meat to places, you know, and give up. 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:32.240 And then they've had people who are like, I've always 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:35.600 hated hunters, you know, blah blah blah. I can't like, 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:38.360 I never knew how'd be in this situation and now 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:42.280 like they're eating venison off their own land. How long 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:46.720 have they been around? Years? Yeah, I don't think a decade, 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:48.959 but I mean I've I've known him for several years. 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:50.400 He's been doing it, and he was doing it when 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.760 I met him. That's interesting, that sounds I mean, that's 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:57.600 just a good idea. Was Dude's name is Joe Lasher. 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:03.720 He's out of North Carolina. Awesome nicer. Now, oh that, No, 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.680 before you tell the listeners what the podcast is gonna 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:11.520 be about, let's get a quick break. Yanni's so good 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:18.160 at announcing those brakes. You're back with the Meat Eator podcast. 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.560 What we're doing. We did. This is the second one 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:23.680 of these. We didn't and people liked it. Man, it 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:27.760 was popular, and I liked it because, um, it brings 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:30.719 up a lot of great things to discuss. Is like, 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:33.800 because of the TV show Meat Eater and various other 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.559 things like web stuff and social media stuff. There's questions 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.880 that come in all the time where guys have questions 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:42.560 about honey, and they're varied. It's everything like have you 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:47.079 ever eaten uh koala? Bear to these like really deep 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:50.520 ethical questions, and and it's funny because you see the 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:54.400 same ones come in versions of the same ones come 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.880 in over and over and over again. So it gives 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:01.120 you like a really targeted way hus you meaning me, 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.520 a really targeted way to have a discussion about hunting 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:10.959 that is specifically addressing questions that people have all the time. 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:16.840 I got this gigantic list of questions. For instance, there's 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:22.560 two people have asked I'm I'm just giving you for 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.600 instance of what kind of questions flowing. So just recently, 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:27.560 two different people I'm assuming they don't know each other, 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:32.760 wrote in to ask about eating groundhogs. You know, so 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.160 that's like, for whatever reason, eating groundhogs is on people's mind. 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:42.720 I've never eaten one. I've killed a couple for for 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:46.720 the bounty, meaning bounty. Like when I was a kid, 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:50.280 I would do some contract I guess almost like contract 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:54.600 assassinations of animals. People would have problems with an animal, 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.800 and I would charge them to go get it damage control, 0:14:56.880 --> 0:15:00.200 animal damage control. And I remember one time I did 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:04.160 a groundhog and got fifteen bucks for it and took 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.520 it out camping. We were going out soccer fishing and camping, 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:11.320 and I took my groundhog with me um because I 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.120 thought we'd eat it, and we never ate it. And 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.400 I'm ashamed to say now that groundhog went to waste, 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:17.920 that it's got my cash for him in life, you 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:23.880 guys never eating ground hug never. No, there's no reason. 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:26.720 I'm just gonna dispatch a bunch of these questions right 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.960 now and just say like people are like people always 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:33.760 ask like is blank edible? To answer is yes, I 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:36.040 don't think there's any there's no bird that's not edible. 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:41.520 You know, there's no inedible bird. I don't think there's 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:47.040 an inedible mammal. Is there anything that's poisonous? Like, I 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:48.880 don't know. I don't know what people mean when they 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:54.560 ask if it's edible, good is it? Is it worth? 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:56.400 But that's not what I think when I think edible, 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:59.000 Like somebody will be like be like, hey, how's that 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.240 new restaurant, Like, oh, it's edible. That means like the 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.640 restaurant sucked or it was mediocre, But when people say, like, 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:09.600 is a groundhog edible? I just saying is it delicious? 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.840 Or will you die after eating it? You know, that's 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.200 a good point. It might be one of each. If 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:18.320 we have two questions that came in. One person might 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.360 be asking about the taste, and you know, they might 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.040 be asking if they're gonna die if they eat it. 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:25.240 It carries diseases. I think that's on people's mind a 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.840 lot of times while game. You know, yeah, there's that 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:32.520 stigma of like, hey, it's wild, I could have some 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.280 bad had stuff going on. The groundhogs a member of 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.840 the squirrel family. I've eating other members of the squirrel family. 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.040 There's nothing gonna be wrong in the groundhog. But you 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.760 just have to ask yourself, like, if you're gonna go 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:47.600 eat a groundhog or a skunk or fox or whatever, 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.200 what are you hoping to get out of it? If 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.720 you're hoping to get out of it that it tastes good, 0:16:55.560 --> 0:17:04.400 good being food in a popular restaurant. If it's gonna 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:09.600 be that good, you've probably heard of people eating it 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:14.480 to a degree. If you mean good, as in, will 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:17.959 you be glad about the experience and having satisfied your 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:21.679 curiosity and having a sort of enhanced understanding of food 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:26.400 and wildlife and all that kind of stuff. Then yeah, 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:29.800 it's gonna be great. It's like, what's the worst that's 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:34.040 gonna happen to you? It's just you don't like it. 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:39.200 It's so you cook the groundhog and then you eat 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:42.399 some and you're like, hey, that's about as bad as 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:44.280 I think I could get. All right, well then, but 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:46.159 I feel like a lot of people listening to this 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:50.800 are probably saying their heads, we're out loud. That groundhogs, 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.800 you know, those big colonies, what do you call them? 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:58.840 They No, you're thinking prairie dog. Oh so they're thinking 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:03.640 like groundhogs chucks got all right, but let's flip it over. 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:08.119 Let's flip it over the prairie dogs. I cleaned the 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.280 prairie dog ones, right, but they're going to carry the plague. Ye, 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:17.240 so squirrel, so squirrel, So he's gotta cook it, right, Yeah, 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:20.600 you're not gonna get the plague from eating it. Hand. 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:24.720 I would sleep with it under my covers. It's dead 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.480 carcass under my covers. Solve it's mites are jumping off 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.840 and like making homes in my hair. No, if that's 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:35.639 what you mean by edible. No, no, dude, seriously, the 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:44.560 groundhog thing I've eaten murde that movie Unforgiven. Yeah, in 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.119 the end when uh Clint Ease with his character is 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:50.240 gonna kill a little bill and little bills like, oh, 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:53.760 you're just you've been killing women and children, And Clint 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:55.920 eas was like, you know, I've killed everything that's ever 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:59.480 walked or crawled. I've eaten most evidence walked or crawled somehow, 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:02.280 I miss I haven't. I haven't eaten a ground hug yet. Well, 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:06.040 now curious, Yeah, you're telling me exactly what's gonna taste like. Man, 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:18.760 it's gonna taste like I don't know, beaver without the castor. 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:21.639 It can't be too far from beaver. It's gonna be 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:25.080 like beaver, but sometimes beaver meat, which I'm a fan 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:30.440 of and which is good, very edible, It's great. Who 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:32.440 was just raping about that? Did you serve it to 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:35.760 your mother in law? Brian Callen? Brian cant the funny Brian, 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:45.040 the very funny and beautiful Brian Callen? Who? Who? How 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:47.760 do I put it? I just I saw him in 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:56.320 his um fullness, in the act of urinating up. I 0:19:56.320 --> 0:20:00.199 thought you're gonna plug his comedy. That's not He in 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:05.280 the middle of of urinating and came up to show me, um, 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.600 let's go on to the next question. Showed us, all, Yanni, 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:10.200 you grab a couple of you like out of here, 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:16.480 I will, Oh, here's one. This kind of stuff comes 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.520 in all time. Not to belittle it. It's not belittling it, 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:21.800 it's complimenting it. I've been looking to take my son 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:23.920 on a hunting trip, was wanting to options on. I 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:25.960 would like to take him either bear or moose hunting, 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:29.760 but he had the mortgage's house to afford it. Could 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:36.520 I recommend an outfitter that's reasonable in price? Or where 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.879 would you go on the public hunt? You know, I 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:43.119 can't recommend you outfit it's reasonable in price. The outfitters 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:46.720 that I'm friends with, the handful of outfitters that I'm 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:49.760 friends with, the handful of outfitters that I would say, like, man, 0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:52.800 you ought to go hunting with that dude? Are are 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:56.879 are are very very very expensive. They're very good, and 0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.000 they're very expensive. And I think I kind of know 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:02.879 them and become ends with them because maybe I, you know, 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.680 I have friends that admire them, or I admire their 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:10.240 their work ethic and their skill set, you know, on 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:14.440 their knowledge and what they bring to it, and all 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:21.720 that stuff costs tons of money. I don't know, I no, 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:24.600 the guys that know are just super expensive. But it's 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:27.639 like they're super expensive because they're so good, you know. 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:30.480 And there's people that do cookie cutter stuff like I think, 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:32.440 if you want to go on a cheap bear hunt, 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:34.760 you go to these sort of almost like black bear 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:39.000 hunt factories up in Canada where they're running a bazillion 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:42.639 bear baits, you know, and they'll load up like a 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:46.240 van full of hunters and take you all out and 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:50.080 drop you off at this like spacing on Crown Lands, 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:52.760 Government Lands. You know, they drop one of you every 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.800 five miles and you're going to hunt a bear bait, 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:57.840 and then when you get done, you walk out to 0:21:57.920 --> 0:21:59.639 the road and then you might be sitting there two 0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:02.280 hours while they come and pick you all back up 0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:04.600 again and bring you back to eat spaghetti and meatballs. 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:08.600 Those are cheap. I would just do your own hunt, man, 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:12.480 because it's like you're saying you want to go on 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:15.840 a hunt with your son, which is fantastic, man, But 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:17.960 I bet you your kid, like your kid would want 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:19.840 to get something, but your kid also probably wants to 0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:22.119 be with as old man and like a comfortable environment, 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:25.920 you know. And if you're going on on I out 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:27.439 fit it hunt, you don't know what's up. I mean, 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:29.119 you don't know what kind of environment it's gonna be 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:32.120 for your kids. That's what I would think with my son. 0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:34.600 Like if my son's four and a half, so he's 0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:36.720 all the fish, but he's not on enough to hunt, 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:38.159 you know. And I just took my son to my 0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:41.560 brothers to fish, and we we I took my son 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:43.320 to mild City to fish with my brother and my 0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:46.359 brother lives. And this isn't like a big romanic hunt. 0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:53.600 We're fishing small small mouth catfish, small walleye sager. Right, 0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:58.040 A four fish day is a good day. He caught 0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:01.080 four fish one day, he caught a couple of our day, 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:04.840 caught it one the other day. He had a blast 0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:08.479 because he's with me, he's with my brother, Everyone around 0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:12.480