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Speaker 1: This is the Meat Eater podcast or broadcasting. We're not broadcasting.

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Speaker 1: We're recording in Napa Valley, California. And where where I'm

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Speaker 1: drinking the cours drinking a Coors and Napa Valley, California.

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Speaker 1: But but I'm here with um J Honese. Tell us

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Speaker 1: he's drinking himself some red wine. Is that the fancy

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Speaker 1: red wine we just got drinking very fancy red wine.

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Speaker 1: Mike wash Leski drinking very fancy red wine. Last night

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Speaker 1: he was drinking beam and coke, which is very not fancy.

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Speaker 1: He's not drinking fancy red wine. We're in nap because

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Speaker 1: we're hunting. Uh, this isn't what we're talking about tonight.

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Speaker 1: But we're in nap because we're here hunting turkeys. And

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Speaker 1: this morning, Um, I killed the UH world's most biggest

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Speaker 1: cage ist while he unkillable turkey to have ever graced

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Speaker 1: God's green Earth? Would you agree with that? You know? Yes?

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Speaker 1: For real? Rio Grande turkeys, cag turkey, kg Rio Grande turkey.

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Speaker 1: This turkey, I don't love how, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: much I want to get into this, just so it

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Speaker 1: was it was a cool turkey hunt. Oh it's it's

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Speaker 1: what it's textbook, it's what you want. We didn't get

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Speaker 1: to waltson there call him right in off the ruse.

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Speaker 1: We had to set up on him three different times.

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Speaker 1: He gave us the old loop de lube. You know.

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Speaker 1: We decided to change positions. Next time we call, he

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Speaker 1: gobbled from literally probably standing where you were sitting next

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Speaker 1: to that. Yeah, I'll I keep trying to prevent myself

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Speaker 1: from getting into talking about this turkey much. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about something different, but um, this turkey man. I

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Speaker 1: was calling him, and every time I call, he just gobbled,

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Speaker 1: you know. And that gives you a power trip as

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Speaker 1: a turkey caller, because turkeys all they do is manipulate you.

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Speaker 1: And when you realize that you're manipulating a turkey, you

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Speaker 1: can't help yourself but not do it. It would be

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Speaker 1: like if you push the button, you know, and and

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Speaker 1: some machine, I don't want to say inflated you, but

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Speaker 1: some machine gave you a BackRub. Right, you keep pushing

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Speaker 1: the damn button and when you got a time, that's

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Speaker 1: just gobbling like mad. Every time you call. You call

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Speaker 1: too much. So we finally decided to move and maybe

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Speaker 1: there's something hanging him up that we can't tell what's

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Speaker 1: hanging him up. And we move, and that that prevented

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Speaker 1: up again, and I call that gobbler calls. They yeah,

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Speaker 1: can't believe that Hen Gobbler, or that I can't leave

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Speaker 1: that Hen turkey is ignoring me, and he went down there.

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Speaker 1: So then I proceeded to call to him again too much,

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Speaker 1: and eventually started checking my watch and trying to make

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Speaker 1: that turkey showed up and he got shot, big old

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Speaker 1: long spurs, one of them was busted off. The honest

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Speaker 1: was a warrior. You know. We're joined by Mike wash

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Speaker 1: Leski of the Texas Coal Hunters Association. I know so

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Speaker 1: little about Texas hunting that I thought that was a

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Speaker 1: real sticker. No, yeah, I mean it's a real sticker.

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Speaker 1: It's a real t shirt. Explain, um, try to explain

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Speaker 1: And so how can you determine who's a cold buck? Uh? Well,

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Speaker 1: actually tracking the animals. The biologist doesn't fly by an

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Speaker 1: an army surplus. Do definitely don't have a big old ranch. Definitely,

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Speaker 1: it's not about this. But Yannie had an interesting point

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Speaker 1: he started this group where the group you become a

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Speaker 1: But you know what I want to interrupt, Go ahead,

421
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: put in what's not expensive is like, if you're in Iowa,

422
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 1: put in for a couple of the western state moose hunts,

423
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: are put in for the main New Hampshire moose hunts. Yeah,

424
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: it's too much of a long shot. I recommend I'm

425
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: talking about has to mortgage his house. You don't really

426
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: have to. You just have to plan like we've Like

427
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,239
Speaker 1: you said it before. It's what's important. Everybody, you know,

428
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 1: can find money in their budget to go hunting if

429
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: they want to plan a hunt five years from now,

430
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: hopefully everybody's still able enough to go hunting and do

431
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: that hunt and put away whatever it takes five bucks,

432
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: you know, a hundred bucks a month for the next

433
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: five years, and you will be on a fantastic hunt.

434
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: A bet. Yeah, that's true. That's like I'm gonna start

435
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: a business where I come in and audit people's life

436
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: in order to find them more money to go hunting with.

437
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: I'll just come in and look at how you spend

438
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: you know, what would you call that need you catching?

439
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: Then Steve's money finding service Hunt, Steve's hunting money finding service.

440
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: Maybe you got like a pool, a backyard pool, but

441
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: let's sell. Let's fill that pool in getting money. And

442
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: I feel like as far as I worked for a

443
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: couple of different outfitters, and the Elk outfit or that

444
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 1: worked for, we had a very affordable hunt. I felt like,

445
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: especially for the quality that they got, I don't know

446
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: if that's the norm out there to get the quality

447
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: of cooks and guides and service that we gave for

448
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 1: an archery hunt for twenty dollars. But I feel like outfitters,

449
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: if you're just trying to if you're trying to get

450
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: a bargain, you're probably gonna get that in return in

451
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,959
Speaker 1: your you know, in the service that you get. It's

452
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit of a bargain. You know,

453
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be you're not getting the the top

454
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 1: quality stuff. So if you're gonna drive out for a

455
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: moose hunt or a bear hunt, you know, again, stave

456
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: with just a little bit more money, dude, and do

457
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: some research. It's not that hard these days the internet.

458
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: You know, call references, call people that have been there

459
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: and hunted, get some names and numbers, ask about the guides.

460
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: You know what else, be a good idea ask yourself.

461
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: If you're interested in hunting cow moves, there you go.

462
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: You might wind up getting a way bargain, a way

463
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: bargain deal and you might be able to go at

464
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: an off season time, or if you're willing to do

465
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: a spike hunt. There's a lot of moose hunts they're like, uh,

466
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: you know, they're like like in a in a turn,

467
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: Mic could understand their coal hunts, go out and do

468
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: spike you know, spike fork moves to a cow hunt.

469
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: Because a lot of times when you buy, when you

470
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: do a hunt, like a lot of times what you're

471
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: when you see an expensive hunt, like for instance, it's

472
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: a dream of mine to go hunt stone sheep someday

473
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: you see stone sheep hunts, or what you're paying for

474
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: is this tag because the guy, the outfitter, gets like

475
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: two or three of these tags every year. So if

476
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: you want to go on a stone sheep hunt, you're

477
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: not paying Like you're not paying for the guiding service.

478
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: You're buying a tag from a guy that's expensive. When

479
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: you see a twenty dollar elk hunt, it's not that

480
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: the guide is like giving you massages and stuff. It's

481
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: like you're buying a very expensive tag. Kind of that's

482
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: a way to think about it. So if you're willing

483
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: to go and hunt in an area that doesn't produce

484
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 1: big bears, it's going to be cheaper. If you're willing

485
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: to do a cow hunt or or a spike fork

486
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: bull moose hunt, you're gonna be saving all that tag money.

487
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: You know, all right, what's my take on environmental issues.

488
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: I'm an environmentalist. I mean generally, I'm always on the

489
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: side of the environment. That's why I'm a political unich Man,

490
00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: because I feel like you have we have a we

491
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: have one political party that seems willing to piss away

492
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: certain hunting rights and piss away gun rights, and we

493
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: have another political party that in general seems willing to

494
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: piss on our hunting and fishing lands. It's hard man like,

495
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: like if if yeah, I'm an environmentalist, I don't want

496
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 1: and it's now you're suppose. Now it's like you're painted

497
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: as a radical if you want clean air and clean

498
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: water and good hunting and fishing lands, It's like, oh,

499
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: these radical communists who don't think we should poison the water.

500
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, I like clean air, clean water.

501
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: I like wildlife. I think that wildlife is worth being

502
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: It's like worth enough to warrant being inconvenienced by I

503
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: remember it. I just recently reread elderly Upholds Sand County Almanac,

504
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: and he has a line in there and he's talking

505
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: about this guy that wrote Spook in the forties. He

506
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: has a line in there where he's talking about um

507
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: that like that the country has become like a hypochondriac

508
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: where we're so worried about our economic well being, we're

509
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: so fearful of our economic health that we've become incapable

510
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: of being healthy, you know, like a hypochondract They can't

511
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: be healthy because it's just so worried that something's wrong

512
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: with them. You know, I don't think that the right

513
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,479
Speaker 1: answer is always what's best for the economy. And I

514
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: also am a little bit and and I know, and

515
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm familiar with arguments about arguing the economic value of

516
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: hunting and fishing, which is tremendous. There's a tremendous economic

517
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: value to hunting and fishing and a tremendous economic value

518
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: to wildlife. And I can give that argument. I can

519
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: make that argument. But I also realized that that are that.

520
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: I also realized that it's bigger than It's a bigger

521
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: issue than that. If I need to sell you on

522
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: having healthy wildlife and having clean air and clean water

523
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: based on just financial matters, based on economics, I'm gonna

524
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: lose my own argument. It's way bigger than that. It's

525
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: way more important than that. No one ever said to me, Uh,

526
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, if you take good care of your kids,

527
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: you'll make a lot of money. You know, No, taking

528
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: a care of your kids cost money. Um, have ever

529
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: come across the game animal? What was that one? Sorry? Oh,

530
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: here's a good one. How do you deal with really

531
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: hardcore anti gun people? We're talking about this today. It

532
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: depends on how hardcore. I don't argue. I'll have conversations

533
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: with but I don't argue with vegans because you're not

534
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: gonna change their mind. If someone comes to me and

535
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: they says like, I'm absolutely adamantly opposed to any ownership

536
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: of firearms whatsoever. Right, I don't know where I'm gonna get.

537
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: I don't know where I'm gonna get. I have some

538
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: luck having this discussion with people who have very hypocritical

539
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 1: perspectives on guns, being like that the guns they like

540
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: are okay, but the guns that other people like are

541
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: not okay. You know that's easy to easy to combat

542
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: and I don't. But you know it's funny because I'm

543
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: not put up against it as much. I mean, do

544
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: you spend you guys spend a lot of time having

545
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: like arguments about whether it's okay that you have a

546
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: gun or not. No, but we don't. I feel like

547
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: I definitely try to defend uh, just generally any kind

548
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: of you know, general gun ownership. When people say, all right,

549
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: well you have a hunting bolt action rifle, why should

550
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: we let anybody have like a rifle that can shoot,

551
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: you know, have a fifty round clip on it where

552
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: you can just shoot away. Yeah, that was that. That's

553
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: like I used to struggle with a lot of these

554
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: questions like that. And there's a couple of points people

555
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: made to me that help me kind of understand the

556
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: issue better. Is that the Second Amendment has absolutely nothing

557
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: to do with hunting. Like when they drew that up,

558
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: they weren't thinking about protecting your right to go hunting. No,

559
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: they had nothing to do with hunt. But then like

560
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: some guys are real critical of hunters, was like, like

561
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: there's even a term like a fud fud it would

562
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 1: be a dude like you and me that does say

563
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: hunts with the bolt action rifle. It's like you're behind

564
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: the times, You're like elmer fudd. I think that's I

565
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: think that's kind of what that means. Another thing was

566
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: when you if people would say, like, oh, you shouldn't

567
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: have a high capacity, You shouldn't have an assault rifle, right,

568
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: But then other people would look at the rifle I

569
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: have and say, well, is it okay that you have

570
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: a sniper's rifle? And it is. Man, It's like, I

571
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: have rifles that are capable of shooting a thousand yards

572
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: in the right hands. So it's like, you got an

573
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: assault rifle, you got a sniper's rifle. It's like, I

574
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: think you could paint all this stuff in crazy ways.

575
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: So it's hard to answer the question. But yeah, it's

576
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: something I think about all the time, but I don't

577
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: It just doesn't come up in my life that I

578
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: have arguments with really hardcore anti gun people. I remember,

579
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: like kind of like how to dispatch. A friend of

580
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: mine was relating a story where my friend's wife was

581
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: with a friend of hers and her friends said, I

582
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: would never let my children go play at a house

583
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: that had guns in the house, And my friend's wife said, well,

584
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: you better not let them come play at my house.

585
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: You know, that's probably like the extent of the extent

586
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: of the conversation because I just I just don't think

587
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna win it. Maybe someone who's really good is

588
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: gonna win it. But this question is really hardcore anti

589
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 1: gun people. Well, I think some people have misconceptions about

590
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: firearms in general, and that's kind of what we were

591
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: talking about Elier today is or what we were talking

592
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 1: about as far as hunter education and how that kind

593
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: of can dispel the myth as far as you know,

594
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: just knowledge in general about firearms as they are as

595
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: they are. And I think a lot of people are like, oh,

596
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: there's guns in the house, so they think that they're

597
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: hidden under the couch, you know, fully loaded in cabinets,

598
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: in a cereal box, you know, and that's not where

599
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: it is. You know. That's that's the thing I always

600
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: think about where I have, um, yeah, like the way

601
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: I store my firearm, the way I store my firearms.

602
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, if someone said it would be like

603
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: that guy has thousands of sounds of ammunition stockpiled in

604
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: a closet full of weapons, I won't be like, well, yeah,

605
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: but I mean you gotta come look at how it's

606
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: set up. It's not like what you're describing. Yeah, you know,

607
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, there's guns in the house, and you

608
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: know there's you know, handguns under cushions and you know,

609
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: it's just like easily accessible and it's that's not how

610
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: it is. That's one thing I would like to see,

611
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: um we're talking about. It's funny because people ask like

612
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: how I have these conversations. We actually had this conversation

613
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: yesterday or today. One thing I'd like to see the

614
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: gun industry listen. They don't focus on it, but I'd

615
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:43,479
Speaker 1: like to see a more focus on teaching people how

616
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: to um safely store firearms in their home, which is

617
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: something I never thought until I had kids. If you

618
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 1: don't have kids, like it doesn't you know what I mean?

619
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: Just like we we had as a kid, we had

620
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: a gun cabinet, but it was different because because this

621
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: is like I'm forty one and my but my dad

622
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: was like the age of most people's grandpas, because you

623
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: have men, was really old. You didn't touch that far

624
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: the gun cabinet because you he'd kill you. Right. I

625
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: probably had just like the little key, right, and it

626
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: was like if he came in and you were messing

627
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: around and there you were dead. I don't have I

628
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: don't like inspire that kind of fear out of my kids.

629
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: So I've been lately now, you know, as they get older.

630
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: I'm lately now always trying to make sure that my

631
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 1: um storage technique is way advanced beyond their age, right,

632
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: like a one year old, it's like, okay, yeah, you

633
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: can't really stand up yet, So I know how to

634
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: keep stuff away from him now that I gotta almost

635
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: My kid will be five pretty soon. So now I'm

636
00:36:55,360 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: getting into more like, you know, actual protocol because I'm

637
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: not just worried about my kid. You know, even if

638
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: I didn't instill that level of fear that my dad

639
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: instilled me about not touching stuff, I'm not supposed touch.

640
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what his friends. I don't know that

641
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: his friends have learned that level of fear, right, and

642
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: they might not know anything about it, and they'll be curious.

643
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, what is that? Because they you know,

644
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: they come from you know, maybe a household that doesn't

645
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: have that kind of you know, education behind it and

646
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: that kind of you know environment that they're raising and stuff,

647
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, there's a you know, what's that

648
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: right there? I want to go play with that? That

649
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: looks pretty cool. Yeah, because they've they've fetisht they've like

650
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: some people like accidentally fetishized guns. You know, like my

651
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: kids already not my youngest too, but my four year

652
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: old I've already met. We go out and shoot his

653
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 1: be begun. This is the muzzle, this is the trigger,

654
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: this is the safety. Never do this, Never do that.

655
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: So if somehow he was inspired to, like somehow whatever,

656
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: there was a lapse and he was able to get access,

657
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: he has in his head the fundamental, don't you know?

658
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: And I think that this sort of thing like guns

659
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: are bad. I don't even want to know how they work.

660
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous, right, it's respecting knowledge. That was the point

661
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: we made today is that education, just a little bit

662
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: will go so far for so many people. And I

663
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: don't look at any differently than teach my kids about

664
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: like the car, like you don't let your kids mess

665
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: around with like keys in the ignition and started jacking

666
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: around the you know, shifter. Bad things happen when kids

667
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: do that. You know, nobody lets their kids do that.

668
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: It's a dangerous you know, not like no, don't even

669
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: look at that sun. This is a dangerous machine. This car.

670
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: You're not allowed to touch the you know, you're like, hey, man,

671
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: don't be touching this. Don't be touching this if I'm

672
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: not in the car, you can't even be up in

673
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: the front here. But this is what all this stuff is.

674
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: Don't touch it. Oh man, I got a story about that.

675
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, it's related to that. Me and my

676
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: buddy back when we're I think we were five, and

677
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: uh we're at a seven eleven parking lot and it

678
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: was sloped as I went inside, and it was you know,

679
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: he had a standard, and so my buddy hops up front.

680
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm gonna drive and hit the clutch and

681
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: put it and essentially put it in a neutral and

682
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,959
Speaker 1: dropped the dropped the parking break, and we just went

683
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: straight backwards. Two five ye old kids in this car,

684
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: just like right out into the street getting a crash.

685
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: No you get a crash? Did you get a crash?

686
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: Because my we probably rolled back about you know, fift

687
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: and we just freaked out. And then so as soon

688
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: as he you know, he had his hand on that

689
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: parking break and threw that back and then his dad

690
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: just burst out that door and we got it. We

691
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: got it. That was no, no, that ever happened. So

692
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: we you know, now we have educational respect for the

693
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 1: parking break. Sixteen on my lips not sixt when we've answered,

694
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: what were your wife not eat? I like that, my dude,

695
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: My wife eats more wild game than than nineties some

696
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: odd percent of the guys that hunted. I know. She

697
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: don't air. She doesn't like to hunt. She likes to

698
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: go fishing with me. She likes that I take the

699
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: kids fishing. She's been out hunting. She's not like she devil,

700
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: doesn't self identify as a hunter. She has no real

701
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: desire to go hunting. But she's all kinds of wild game. Well.

702
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: I like about her too, is um. She didn't even

703
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: stay like, Yeah, I know it's whatever you want to

704
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: tell me. It's hypocritical that I like to eat me,

705
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: but I don't want to kill the animal. Sure, if

706
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: that's what I am, that's what I am. She loves

707
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: that I bring home wild game, you know, And I

708
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: do know that there's I think I believe there's one

709
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: animal that's on the cook list right now. For no,

710
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: it's back on the list. My wife had put a

711
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: temporary moratorium on the consumption of black bear flash. She

712
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: didn't even last a year. No, I didn't know it

713
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: didn't last. She listen, she's happy, like I cook in

714
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: our family. You know, like if I'm home, I cook,

715
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: I like it. She don't like it, so she'll cook

716
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: if she has to be. If I'm home, I'm like,

717
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: why why suffered? When I want to do it. There's

718
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,479
Speaker 1: no way that, like if I cook, suffer. My wife

719
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 1: she was down on BlackBerry meat just because we uh,

720
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: me and well, everybody's sitting the table, Mike, you're honestly

721
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: honest his brother Mandy. We all got trick on nolysis,

722
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: which I've talked about a great deal from eating undercook

723
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: blackburr meat. And my wife kind of overcracked and said

724
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: that I was not that I wasn't allowed to eat it,

725
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: but that the kids and her weren't eating. But I've

726
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: given him blackbur meat since then, my wife's grateful man

727
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: that I cook. If I cooked, she's gonna eat it.

728
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: She might say that something tastes like a little bit off,

729
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: or like if I cook, if I have some salmon,

730
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: you know, like we'll go up to our cabin and

731
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: catch a bunch of salmon, and you know, it's great

732
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: for a couple months. Then you're kind of get in

733
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: that borderline area it gets a little skanky. She might

734
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: point out that the salmon's a little skanky. She might

735
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: point out that something's a little bit tough, but no,

736
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: there's no way if I cooked dinner for my wife,

737
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: there's no way that my wife would like not eat it,

738
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: unless perhaps it was a person. But I sat down

739
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: and ate a meal of domestic dog with my wife. Really, Yeah,

740
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: so what's her favorite game does she have? It was understandable,

741
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: you know what she raved about. She didn't like the

742
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: burger often. I don't know why, but she raved about

743
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: that white some of that white tail you sent, like

744
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: that white tail. That's awesome, no kidding, Yeah, that's great.

745
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: Here only complained about the burgos. It was it was

746
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: like very mild. I think she's a little bit used to.

747
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: But then we did like a roast and slice of thin,

748
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: ate it cold, and she loved it, loved it. That's fantastic.

749
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: So but yeah, she likes to help meet a lot.

750
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: Um trying to think of some things that she hasn't

751
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: been crazy about. Dude, she eats squirrel. She just doesn't care.

752
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: She doesn't care what you guys should answer the question,

753
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: Like the wife came from um she met me was

754
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: a vegetarian. Yeah, and we had been for how long?

755
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, over a decade? Is that right? For

756
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: what reason? Ethics? Ye lived and grew up in North Carolina,

757
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: but grew up in a hunting and fishing family, in

758
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: fishing family. But but it was you know, yes, but

759
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: they didn't really do it that much, you know, and

760
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: especially in later years, you know, high school, you know,

761
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: college whatnot. And North Carolina a lot of pig farming,

762
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: and what she saw in that industry turned her off

763
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: to meat. Now she's eating a lot of a lot

764
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: of meat, a lot of while a game the one

765
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: animal that's still I get the no way on, which

766
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: is a bummer because I really enjoy pork, not often,

767
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: but every now and then, love my bacon, love some

768
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: sausage of some sort, and she just can't do it.

769
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: She often tries, and just his man, there's something about

770
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 1: that that ex a greasy nest with a flavor or whatever.

771
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: So that's kind of on our on the no list.

772
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: So can you cut your wild game sausage with pork

773
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: fat or you gotta put be fattener? Um. I haven't

774
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: made much of my own, but any of the stuff

775
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: with pork fat, no, she won't eat it. What about

776
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: like wild hog? Well, she eat that we're gonna we haven't, Yes,

777
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: she will. Yeah, so it's just domestically raised swine's. But

778
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: it's way a different bog like wild hog. It's like,

779
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like it has as much to do

780
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: with deer as it has to do with hog. Yeah,

781
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: but no. But psychologically if if her deal is like

782
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: she just seen stuff she doesn't like. You know, what

783
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: about your your Mrs Mrs wash Leski, she changed her

784
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: name and you got married. Man. My wife keeps saying

785
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: she will, but she says she'll do it when her

786
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: passport expires. I gotta wait like five more years. But

787
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: there she thought she lost it, and I says, you

788
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: can to change the name. She just doesn't want to

789
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: have to go down to renew year. Are you wanting

790
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: that for tradition's sake? What do you feel like you

791
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: could gain out of that? Well, I'll tell you what

792
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: I can gain about it. I have to say, um,

793
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: let's say someone let's say I'm rs like, uh, let's

794
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: say someone. Well, let's say I'm saying yeah, I'd like

795
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 1: to be able to say, like, oh, the Ronella's are coming,

796
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 1: but I can't like the Ronell's are coming and Katie

797
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: you know, or why don't you just say staying in

798
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: the hotel. We'll be staying in the hotel and she'll

799
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: going and do all the signing up well if you want,

800
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: and then then I'll call down and they'll be like, oh,

801
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: Mr Finch, you know that's why. Yeah, it's just confusing.

802
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: You guys need to I just want to get everything

803
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: cleaned up. I just want everybody have the same name.

804
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: In mind. No, I'm not gonna do that because that's

805
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: like not what people do. If that's people did, I

806
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: would do it if it was like the typical normal.

807
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: In some ways, I'm deeply um establishment. Sure, like I'm

808
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: anti establishment where I think it matters and all the

809
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: stuff that doesn't really matter to me. I go establishment, okay,

810
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: because why have all these extra fights in life. It's like,

811
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: I just want to all that have the same name.

812
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: It's just is it's just like people have been dealing

813
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: with that problem. It's just they've just done it this way.

814
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: It's not like I have like something like this is

815
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: my last name and it's important, you know. It's just

816
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: like it's just how it goes. I don't care if

817
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: it was traditional, if I lived in the country, if

818
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: there is one where like the dude takes the girl's name,

819
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: like fantastic, But like, I just not like interested. There's

820
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: I buck all kinds of trends. I admire people who

821
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: don't play by the rules, but I admire people who

822
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: don't play by the rules that I think are worth violating.

823
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: When people just do stuff because they want to have attention,

824
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: or they want to make a statement for the sake

825
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: of making a statement, for the sake of looking contrarian,

826
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: it just isn't it annoys me. Well, for yeah, I

827
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 1: mean for us, it was just like, you know, whenever

828
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: we were getting married, it's like, do you do you

829
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: want to do this? She's like, yeah, sure, so well

830
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: my wife said it. She said she wanted to do it,

831
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: but she didn't want to have to renew all her

832
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 1: stuff and she didn't want to change her work email

833
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,959
Speaker 1: because she worked in publicity. And she's like, the only

834
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: thing I have going for me, To be honest with you,

835
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: this is not true, but this is like she has

836
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: a lot going for it, but she was to make

837
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: a point. She's like, when I call, they pick up.

838
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: When their assistant says is blank on the phone. They answer, yeah,

839
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: that makes sense because we have a report and we've

840
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: known each other a long time. So for my work stuff,

841
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be real difficult. M hm. You know, well

842
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't really bother me. It bothers me a little bit.

843
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: When I go to hotels they call up and say, Mr.

844
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: You know that bugs me, like in a manly way. Yeah,

845
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: here's a question. Hello, let me ask you a question

846
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: as far as my way, well, nor favorite what what

847
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: she won't eat? Or her favorite game? No, it's what

848
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: what won't your wife eat? Uh? Well, you guys, I'm

849
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: not gonna ask that question because I don't have any

850
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: anything to say that that. It was like what do

851
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: they like to eat? Um? Yeah, well no, how could

852
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: you This is impossible to not be able to answer.

853
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: I thought we were talking about that. What well your wife?

854
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: What was she? As far as game? Oh? Yeah, okay,

855
00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: she's not gonna what about wild game? N I don't

856
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: think I've brought home any I see, I haven't brought

857
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: it home. Anything is exactly that you guys have that

858
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 1: would have a would she eat the musk ox? Oh

859
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: she's had it. We haven't had that yet No, we'll

860
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: see how that goes. This is a course I don't

861
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: really understand it says a TV, raft, jet, bloat boat,

862
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: float plane, or super cup. Um, I guess that they're

863
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: asking what you recommend me. I'm gonna ask this. I'm

864
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: gonna ask this and just say, like what I what

865
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: I like to be on. I'll do it in the

866
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: order of and descending order of likeness. And there's one

867
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: correction because the super cub can be on floats. But

868
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: we'll just say he means like a super cub on,

869
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: so it would be uh raft, super cup, float pane,

870
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: jet boat, a TV I'm with you, would you walk

871
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: away from a gut shot animal that has expired with

872
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: without someone? I'm I'm cleaning this up a little bit.

873
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: I'll just let me just say it. He's asking, let's

874
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 1: say you're out hunting and you find a gut shot

875
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: animal that someone else couldn't didn't find They didn't they

876
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: didn't They either couldn't find it or they found it

877
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: and didn't want it. And he's saying, what would you do?

878
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: Would you would you walk away? Would you keep it?

879
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: How about fresh road kill? Then he goes down to

880
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,919
Speaker 1: say that he faced this situation and hung his own

881
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: tag on the animal. Yeah. Man, it's like if I

882
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: found a gut shot animal, is perfectly fun. I don't

883
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: want to keep the meat, but I would probably try

884
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: everything possible to not put my tag on it and

885
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: keep it. Still. Remember one time I was hunting in Montana.

886
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: We found an antelope that someone had shot and dumped.

887
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: We just trimmed all the meat off it and kept it,

888
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: which was illegal, right because it's hunting season and you

889
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: can't have meat from an animal, like you can't have

890
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: untagged carcass. But I was prepared. It's a little more

891
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: complicated because it was an analope season. Season was open,

892
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: but I didn't have I shouldn't say that I didn't

893
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: have an analop tag for that unit. But here where

894
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: we were hunting deer, here's a dead animal. We took

895
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: all the meat off that thing, and I was prepared

896
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: to if I got checked by a warden, I was

897
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: just prepared to be like, yeah, man, it was dumped.

898
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: I'll happily take you up and show you where it

899
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: was dumped. I committed the grave sin of having taken

900
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: the meat off the carcass. Like, let's let's go down

901
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: to court and I'll explain it to a judge of

902
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: you know. Well, unfortunately though, it would be left up

903
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 1: to him to decide if he was gonna believe your

904
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: story or not. Well, you can't argue with It's like

905
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: unless I had done it a week ago, you're not

906
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: gonna argue with the condition of the animal where it is,

907
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, in this case. But in this case, thinking

908
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: who clearly been there at who's to say you didn't

909
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: it days earlier? Yeah? Yeah, No, that's what I'm saying.

910
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm just telling what I did. I'm not recommending someone

911
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: due to this. I'm saying what I did was faced

912
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: with the thing like spirit of the law, letter of

913
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: the law, I opted in this situation to go a

914
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: spirit of the law, kept the meat, and was prepared

915
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: to face the consequences. If someone had checked me, I

916
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: would have said, here's what happened, here's what I got.

917
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,959
Speaker 1: I'll show you where it is, this is what I did.

918
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: If I'm been in trouble, and I'm in trouble, you know,

919
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: so how long? Like how did you estimate how long

920
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: I have been there? I mean, like we're like, what

921
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: is your It was cold? Out, but you can tell

922
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: by the way the hair is mad and on it

923
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: just all kinds of things like you know, what's been

924
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: on on it. It's position like this is a look

925
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: to and you know, you know, just like but there's

926
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: just like a look to an animals been laying there

927
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: a long time, dumped off the side of the road.

928
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: It's like that looks fresh. It's it's okay, you know,

929
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: I start sinking into the head. We kept We got

930
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: the backstraps and four legs off. Didn't take any rear

931
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: meter anything, you know, backstrap and four legs off, big

932
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: chucks of meat up, tony man legs, whole legs. How

933
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: was it? It's great, It's fantastic. I would still I'd

934
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: like to find a guy that did it and dump

935
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: his body on the side of the So what do

936
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: you think the situation was that put the animal there?

937
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: Was it just like the guy just lost it on

938
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: a trail or I guess it was dumb? It was

939
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: you know, we found it a bunch of raptors, right

940
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: and just you know, like when you see a ton

941
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: of raptors throwing around and like what they got going

942
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: on and went over there, and that's what it was

943
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: two years ago, and called and I came across a

944
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: spiked bowl with brown signs that was clearly perfectly shot.

945
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: Probably didn't go more than fifty yards after the guy

946
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,280
Speaker 1: shot him. The guy saw brawd time's usually a legal

947
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: animal in Colorado. But they weren't five inches and he

948
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: had spikes. He was illegal bull. And uh, I just

949
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: walked away from him. You walked away? Well, no, no,

950
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: I kind of opened but he was stinky, he was green, slimming,

951
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: pretty a bummer. I've done that a handful too. I

952
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: used to take I used to take road kill illegally

953
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: in the state. I lived in the state where you

954
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: weren't allowed to take road kill, But again I took.

955
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: I would take road kill deer and cut the prime

956
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: cuts off it as the act of civil disobedience. Now

957
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: I'll point out it's not illegal to take roadkill in

958
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: that state. One time out when I was a little kid,

959
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: we went out. My old man, UH shot a deer

960
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: with his boat, got a bad hit on it. As happens,

961
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: bow one, um, you gotta ad hit on it. We

962
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 1: trailed that deer to all one in the morning. Never

963
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: found the deer. We're driving home from tracking it in

964
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 1: my dad's seventy nine jeep Grand Cherokee and hit another

965
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: deer with the truck. And there was no tracking job

966
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: on this one. And just like byam right on the

967
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: road and he and I was sitting. I was riding,

968
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: shocking my two betters in the backseat, and you got

969
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: the back like that. We called the way back and

970
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: my old man goes around and opens the backup and

971
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: throws the whole deer in the back. We start on

972
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: down Ryerson Road and all of a sudden, my brothers

973
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: are screaming in the back and that deer is just

974
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: standing up in the back of the jeep Grand Kerokee,

975
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 1: on its feet. Holy it's my dad slammed on the brakes,

976
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: went around, opened the backup, drugged that deer out into

977
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: the road, cut his throw with the knife low to

978
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: the back of the truck. We drove home, and the

979
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: next day he called the police and they would come

980
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: out and give you a permit, a road kill permit.

981
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: Another time I was I was I had this old girl,

982
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 1: this my old girlfriend from high school. We're staying there

983
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 1: and by my mom and dad's house where I lived

984
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: because in high school and I see a deer out

985
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: swimming in the lake, which wasn't an everyday occurrence. And

986
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 1: I see the deer climb up in Bob stair ITTs

987
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: yard and a run up through bob Stairts yard. Later

988
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: that they were walking down the road and here's the

989
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: deer stone dead in bob Stairts yard because it went

990
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 1: to duck the pipe on a cyclone fence and snapped

991
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: its neck on the fence. Wow, And they gave me

992
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: a road kill for that. Like those fence with the

993
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: wire like this chainling fence, that's what I means chainling fence.

994
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: He like ducked his head, you know the pipe they

995
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: always feel like a pipe on top of that. He

996
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: ducked his head and put like it looked like you

997
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: just threw a basketball. Two. Now we're out of chain

998
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: link fence and just laying there with a snapping net. Oh.

999
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: So he ran into it, ran into the fence pipe

1000
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: on top like it was like he tried to like

1001
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: instead of go over the fence, try to go onto

1002
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: the It was a walking I mean, he was running scared.

1003
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: And remember like when I was when we saw that thing.

1004
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: There's some people out chasing in the paddle boat. The

1005
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: deer's out swimming the lake and the people out like

1006
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: kind of like, oh my god, deer in the lake

1007
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: and they're chasing the paddle boat. Another time, another deer

1008
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: swimming lake in the other direction, going north and got

1009
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: hung up in another neighbor's chain link fence and snapped

1010
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: his leg. We kept that deer and they gave us

1011
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: a road kill permit for it. And he's don't even

1012
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: road killed deer. It's just like a way to make

1013
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: it legal for you to utilize deer. They're dying around you,

1014
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: okay from you know, I guess unnatural causes, human made causes.

1015
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: I'm not going to answer this one. Oh I have

1016
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: one last note on that. You know, I feel like

1017
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: I used to be a little more emotional about I

1018
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: feel really bad for that animal. If you found him,

1019
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: and it's like, man, he didn't the meat did not

1020
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: get used. I don't feel that way anymore. It's like,

1021
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: because there's new treat recycling exactly like it's going. It's

1022
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: just all part of the yeah, back to the earth

1023
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: and whatever. I do still dislike the guy that did

1024
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: that to that animal, Well, I'm with you. I'd kick

1025
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: him off the side of the road, kick him in

1026
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: the nuts. You know, he should be beaten. You know. Yeah,

1027
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: I don't do it, like I'm not so adamant about

1028
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: it because I don't believe in nu treat recycling. I

1029
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,439
Speaker 1: can believe in new treats, like like, yeah, it goes back.

1030
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: It's like it's made up of of elements that go

1031
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,959
Speaker 1: back into the earth and they'll find new they'll they'll

1032
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: come a bunch of critters are gonna eat that animal.

1033
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: It's more like I'm trying to like remedy or wrong. Yeah,

1034
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: trying to right or wrong. When I say go to waste,

1035
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: I guess what you're really saying. I guess it gets

1036
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: super like, um, it gets uh, it's not being enjoyed. Yeah,

1037
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: it's like it's ethereal. It's like you're you're it goes

1038
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: a waste in a human sense or something, you know,

1039
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: I mean it goes It's like, yeah, it doesn't go

1040
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: to waste in this sort of grand scheme of things

1041
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: since but it just goes to waste in a human

1042
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: sense because vultures and counties don't care how it tastes.

1043
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: It's just getting consumed. Yeah, that's a good point. I

1044
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: don't want to answer. I'm gonna answer this one, but

1045
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: I want you guys to answer. I'm curious what you

1046
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: guys think about this Sasquatch yeties if eat of you

1047
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: guys has no Okay, did you see he set that

1048
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: one in? No? Oh, never mind, Cody Luan, How did

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00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: you get on this list? Cody? Because here's the thing,

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00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: I'll just say it real quick. At a time, Florida

1051
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: was down to forty seven panthers mountain lions, you know,

1052
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: Florida panthers. They were down to forty seven panthers. Yet

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01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: every year many of them would get hit on the

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01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: highway by cars. If you have this stable breeding population

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01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: of primates that have been here longer, the story goes,

1056
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: when people who are into this stuff that they've been

1057
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: here far longer than Homo sapiens on the continent, it

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01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: would just wind up that you're gonna have a carcass.

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01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a carcass. I know, Oh, they bury

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01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: each other, all that kind of stuff, and it's a

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01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: conspiracy and all that kind of stuff, But at some

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01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: point you would just have a dead body. And I'm

1063
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: not talking like some hair or like a weird footprint.

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01:00:53,760 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: There just be a dead one land there. After years

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01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: of us being here and hundreds of years of us

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01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: driving to extinction, small little creatures that would fit in

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01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: the palm of your hand, we would have by now

1068
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: had a dead one. I think I just rewrite Cody's

1069
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: question again and it just says, sasquatch YETI or stinkcape.

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01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: He just wants to know what you call that critter.

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01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: Don't call it any of that I called a big

1072
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: Don't ask Tody, don't ask any more questions. This is

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01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: for real questions for real people. Well, I this is

1074
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: why I have one thing to say about that. So

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01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: if there's a population, sask this is on this topic, right,

1076
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: population right, Okay, they've existed completely undiscovered. Nobody's ever like

1077
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: really seeing them. They don't have to make any noise

1078
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: or supposedly you know where they make not eat watermelons?

1079
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: And how how big are they supposed to be? A fete?

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01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: All right? The size of the crap that an animal

1081
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: that size would leave throughout the forest would just it

1082
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: would be there and you would step in it all

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01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: the time. And then look at the side, Look at

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01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: the side. I mean, we're just out on a property

1085
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: with cows. I mean those are massive, so it'd be like,

1086
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: what is that? I mean, you know, you're walking around

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01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: to the fort. She said, Oh look somebody took some

1088
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: somebody took a ship here, somebody took a share. I

1089
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: know what this is. I know what this is. It

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01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: would be monster. I mean you know if whenever you're

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01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: walking through the woods and you you you come across

1092
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: man leavings, you know what that is. Yeah, and it's

1093
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: like special crap that it evaporates minutes after they Yeah,

1094
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: they like how they bury that too, and then they

1095
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,439
Speaker 1: like their tissue paper. On the comedian Late the Late

1096
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: Great comedian Mitch Edbird was saying that, um, he doesn't

1097
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,959
Speaker 1: think that it's that it's the photographer's fault. The big

1098
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: puts always blurry and pictures. He thinks he just is blurry. Unfortunately,

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01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: we're to know. I want one. I got one more,

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01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: to get one more. I'm interested in. Um he saw

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01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,479
Speaker 1: about when you're deep in Brownberry country, you guys seem

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01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,439
Speaker 1: to sleep in tents to look like a bear would

1103
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: have no problem getting into him, Like, how how can

1104
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:34,919
Speaker 1: you sleep in a nylon tent? I guess I can't.

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01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't live in fear of bears. No,

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01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: The chances, I think I have a good analogy. The

1107
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: chances of a bear coming through one of those nylon

1108
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: tents are less than you sleeping in your bedroom on

1109
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: your normal residential street and having a car drive through

1110
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: your bedroom wall and drive you over. We're having like

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01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: some kind of insane man and come in and chop

1112
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: you up with you guys have been around this for

1113
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 1: a while, so this is all new to me, and

1114
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: so I let me just I have something you know,

1115
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: I've got at least inside from like a novice to

1116
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: like camping out in Mike actually doesn't sleep. It sounds

1117
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: like no. Well, the one reason I go to sleep

1118
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: is because I'm so exhausted from work every single day

1119
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 1: and the amount of hiking work that we do. So

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01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: it's just like I don't have a choice. It's just

1121
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: I gotta go to sleep, so I'm gonna pass out.

1122
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: But that fear, you know, it's slowly diminished. But it

1123
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: was the first time I was there. Whenever we went

1124
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: with ROURK, I mean I was I was like, okay,

1125
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, I'm literally a baked

1126
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: potato and he can just open me, open this thing up,

1127
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: and just like get to the soft creamy center if

1128
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: you wanted to. I mean that's what I felt. I

1129
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: was like because you know it, you know, that was

1130
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: a legitimate Serren. You guys are all you know whatever,

1131
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: You've been around it for a long time. But for me,

1132
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: it was just like I'm sleeping in a just like

1133
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: a you know, a diaper essentially picture that you had

1134
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 1: grown up on, a picture you've grown up in in

1135
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: Central Bolivia. Sure, on a river, okay, in the jungle,

1136
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 1: and you came up and and and we took you

1137
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: down the highway in a car. Sure, well absolutely, and

1138
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: and and you know, I'm slowly you know now that

1139
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: I've been til asking several times sleeping in tents, and

1140
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, I'm only I'm yeah, I'm not like,

1141
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm not contesting your point. I'm just saying I get

1142
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Well, what made me feel better is

1143
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: the fact that it was just like the luck of

1144
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: the drawers, Like, well, all these other guys are sleeping

1145
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: in tents too, so I've got you know, like a

1146
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: one in six chance of you know, being eaten in

1147
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: this tent. And especially because my team was next to me,

1148
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, well, I was like, you know,

1149
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: which tent looks more delicious? It's like, I mean, his

1150
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 1: is pretty sweet. So I think that right there says

1151
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: at all which tent looks more delicious? Bears don't cruise

1152
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: around looking to eat humans. They just don't. No, I

1153
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: get that, I get that, but whenever you've never done that,

1154
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: it seems ridiculous. And now and now I know and

1155
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: haven't done it. When bears are you know, described uh,

1156
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: especially grizzly bears to people, Yeah, it's like all you

1157
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: hear about, you know, is the one bear that charges

1158
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: not the other ten bears that we saw It ran

1159
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: away as soon as they smelled us. And well yeah,

1160
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: but I mean being out there and stuff and just

1161
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: having them roam around was a new, you know, and

1162
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: terrifying experience a certain degree. And it was new. But

1163
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: now I through knowledge and and being around that and

1164
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: knowing that that's not the case, it's just like, yeah,

1165
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: it's okay. It's just that that's just part of the

1166
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: wild left that lives out there. Yeah, and answer that

1167
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: guy's question, Yeah, I don't know what you could take

1168
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 1: out there. To sleep in that would help. Yeah, that's

1169
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: kind of what I was wondering. Yeah, I don't know,

1170
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: like if you like a bear proof thing. This guy

1171
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: that asks questions to watch that movie about the dude

1172
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: who tried to make the Grizly Grizzly proof soup. There's

1173
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: a guy who got mauled by a grizz lee and

1174
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: tried to build a grizzly proof suit that he could

1175
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: wear and go out and get mauled by another one

1176
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: that wouldn't be able to hurt him. And he built

1177
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 1: this suit and it would go around trying to just

1178
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: get mauled by a bearer. But he couldn't get mauled

1179
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: by a bear. He did everything like they took a

1180
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: horse up in the mountain, shot the horse way. The

1181
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: bears started getting and he come up and try to

1182
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: like mess with the bears, but they would they would

1183
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: never attack him in that suit. He even had his

1184
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: body run him over with the truck wearing the suit.

1185
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: He like, this suit was badass, but he he Yeah,

1186
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: he had a hard time getting bared. Once you want

1187
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: a bear to attack you, it doesn't happen. I want

1188
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: a bear to give me a giant scratch. From here

1189
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: all five claws that starts here on my upper left

1190
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: shoulder and extends down around to my right hip like that.

1191
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: Like people get tattoos. They they're like a bad mofo

1192
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 1: right for having a tattoo, you know. And really I

1193
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 1: was like, well, he's got a tattoo. I mean, they

1194
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: made me do that. But if you got like a

1195
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: big scratch from a grizzly, that's hard to show up

1196
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: bars though. I mean, especially because I guess maybe you

1197
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 1: have to take your whole shirt off and everything. No,

1198
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: I just act like like, oh, man, I got like

1199
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 1: an itch, you know, just like like, man's keep righting here?

1200
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what is that? I'm like, Oh no,

1201
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna scratched up the grizzly. Um. Were you saying

1202
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 1: we're done with the podcast? Yannie? You know why we're done.

1203
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: We're getting out in the morning going turkey hunting, and uh,

1204
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: crew hunt, crew hunt. I'm not hunting the mow. I'm

1205
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 1: not hunting the MoU. Oh, Yanni and Mike here are

1206
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: hunting the mile. Mm hmm. I'm napping. Well, who's gonna call? Well,

1207
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 1: you just had to wake me up every ten minutes, Okay,

1208
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 1: I'll do that all right, Thanks for listening. If you

1209
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: have questions, go a couple of things. Go go to

1210
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: the meat eater dot com. Um, go to the meatater

1211
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:16,479
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1212
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,639
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1213
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: and uh, go and drop in some questions or hit

1214
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: it up on hit up on Facebook and stuff. We'll

1215
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: try to get to and we get a lot of questions.

1216
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 1: But but but send it in there and maybe we'll

1217
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: answer it. I like to. I like to do that.

1218
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: I like to answer these questions actually, and then you

1219
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:41,679
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1220
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:45,800
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1221
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1222
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1223
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1225
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1229
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1240
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1241
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 1: wish this luck. We're we're gonna sleep for six hours. Stokes,

1242
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:27,360
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1244
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1251
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:03,479
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1252
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:08,200
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