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Speaker 2: All Right, get it together.

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Speaker 3: You got issues, man, and they're very real and you

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Speaker 4: Just ever, just get it together, all right? Why don't

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Speaker 4: we do a professional bro, not a kid. I didn't

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Speaker 5: I didn't do anybody started.

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Speaker 6: No, they don't believe in race relations around here either,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's racist some of the things.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, jeez, the things that this man comes up with

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Speaker 5: Good morning.

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Speaker 3: How's everybody feeling here on this Wednesday morning?

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Speaker 2: Yep?

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Speaker 3: Everybody?

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Speaker 7: Hey, who really cares like how I'm feeling. I'll be

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Speaker 7: honest with you on that. Thank We got a show

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Speaker 7: to do, you know, we gotta get through the show.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna talk about some topics that have been beaten

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Speaker 7: like a dead horse, but we're gonna keep talking about them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: By the way, the old adage of beaten like a

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Speaker 4: dead horse, a nobody actually beat a dead horse.

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Speaker 3: Do you ever think about that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, when you're trying to revive it, you know you're

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Speaker 6: you gotta beat it because you can't just do a

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Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta you gotta you gotta beat that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you gotta beat that horsey. See, it's wisdom right there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's called beating the whore. Geez, you

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Speaker 3: That's a great point.

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Speaker 2: I gotta beat it. Look you got you got beating

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Speaker 2: that whore.

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Speaker 3: Pull your pants up now that dang.

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well there are a lot You're off to a

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Speaker 3: quick start today, aren't you. There are a lot of

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Speaker 3: dead horses that need to be beaten.

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Speaker 4: One of those the discussion about Tom Brady in a booth,

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Speaker 3: So we hit on this a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday that there was a report that Peter Schrager had

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Speaker 2: Uh is that a credible report?

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Speaker 6: Well, Pete, come on, he got enough hours logged in

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Speaker 4: Pete Carroll responded to that after the game and kind

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Speaker 8: Like this, Yeah, I think Tom's really tried to honor

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Speaker 8: He's not talking to us about anything other than our

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Speaker 6: And Pete Carroll is going to come out and say

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Speaker 7: Well, first off, can I asked this question, has Pete

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Speaker 5: It's like, hey, why did you leave USC?

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Speaker 3: You know what's wrong with you?

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Speaker 6: Carol came back, the USC didn't. Yeah, I'm just saying yeah, yeah, so.

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Speaker 4: NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said in a statement that there

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Speaker 6: Clearly, we got one in Indiana that's got her team

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Speaker 3: She does. She's taking notes as well too.

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Speaker 4: Tom Brady was sitting in the booth in his capacity

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Speaker 3: So basically, the league's like, hey, listen, relax everybody. He

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Speaker 3: didn't break any rules. You know, he didn't break any

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Speaker 4: But I'm just wondering, if they were good, how much

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Speaker 3: But they got liped out, and you know, you kind

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Speaker 4: But we made the point yesterday if this was such

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Speaker 3: That's the part doesn't make sense to me.

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Speaker 4: And the NFL is not gonna come out and say,

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Speaker 2: Go like you I agreed, Yeah, No, I mean I can.

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Speaker 7: We're beating a dead horse here, Like I kind of

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Speaker 7: settled me to say yesterday about that's comments, Well, Pete

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Speaker 2: So I what we're we gonna say it?

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Speaker 7: Like, like, what are we going to do to change

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Speaker 6: Well, the name Peyton Manning I think holds just as

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Speaker 6: Worth Peyton Manning, he can do what he wants I

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Speaker 6: He on commercials doing you know, flights, fly paper type action, parachuting, omaha,

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Speaker 6: I mean, Lawrence Taylor can do whatever he wants to do. Clearly,

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying there's some guys that are they are

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Speaker 6: how you have government clearance, It's on a level of

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Speaker 2: What we're going to discuss.

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Speaker 6: That's the bottom line, and whatever the truth of it is,

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Speaker 2: I truly believe that.

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Speaker 6: Now I've been around long enough to know, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 6: I've seen it, and it's okay. They've accomplished to the

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Speaker 6: forward so far in so many different ways, ways beyond.

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Speaker 2: What we even know.

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Speaker 6: Things that they been involved in to make the game

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Speaker 6: you owe it to him to make sure he gets

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Speaker 6: You owe it to him, So I don't have a

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Speaker 4: People need to relax on it. What is your Clarence level?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 4: What would you be allowed to do with because you

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Speaker 6: You could say you played. I mean because at one

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Speaker 2: Hit me up and tell me, yeah, you can't.

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Speaker 6: Uh, you can't say you're redskin great for your your

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Speaker 2: Take that down?

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Speaker 3: Oh really, damn?

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Speaker 6: I got a ceason the cists on saying redskin great

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Speaker 5: Of a football cap. Wait? Really?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I love that though. That's good for you? You

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well you need that in your life a little bit,

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Speaker 3: How did you get around that?

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Speaker 2: I said that f off? Take great?

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Speaker 6: I felt like like I didn't even approve the flyer.

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Speaker 2: The people who did the flyer did to fly I

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Speaker 6: I don't even associate with with the Redskins. I got

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Speaker 6: put on there, it got I got a season desist.

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Speaker 6: Like bro, I don't even fool with y'all. Like what,

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Speaker 6: I don't care I did. I didn't do it. Why

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Speaker 6: the cat cat Lee? I mean you, but they I

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Speaker 4: Player if I want to, Yeah, But being in state

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Speaker 5: Hey, what do you mean?

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Speaker 2: Nope, I don't play that.

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Speaker 3: We were in the Lash. You were in the Lash,

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Speaker 3: and Lee was really running amuckt in the last I

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Speaker 6: I can't believe Lee would do that though, Like, I'll

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Speaker 6: he Lee, Lee disgraced our bathroom and he walked around

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Speaker 2: Wasn't like it wasn't game day.

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Speaker 10: Taking the trophy room This dude was walking around Brady,

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Speaker 10: it's game day.

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Speaker 5: I believe this.

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Speaker 6: By the way, it's it's game day in the Lash,

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Speaker 6: I'm on air, So I can't. I can't jump off

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Speaker 6: what the f are you doing? You dumb ass? Get

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Speaker 6: back in this room. Do you understand, Like there's cameras everywhere,

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Speaker 6: like literally everywhere, and somebody's gonna come get you, like

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Speaker 6: gonna in turn get me in trouble, and then now

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Speaker 6: my access is going to be in Well, no it's not,

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Speaker 6: but I'm gonna have to explain it and it makes

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Speaker 6: me look bad. This dude is walking around the building

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Speaker 2: What are you doing? He comes back, like casually strolls in, like,

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Speaker 2: what are you.

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Speaker 5: Doing, dude?

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Speaker 3: At least least tossing a football.

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Speaker 6: Oh no, buddy, I'm just going looking around.

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Speaker 4: At least tossing the football in the air to himself

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Speaker 4: like what's that? Oh, it's a Joe Paterno game ball.

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Speaker 4: He got his last win. I personally was hoping that

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Speaker 5: Out of the.

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Speaker 3: Ground a mini bottle of seagrum falls out of it.

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Speaker 3: I was shorts.

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Speaker 6: Secretly, I was like, I hope somebody grabs him up

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Speaker 2: I will not let.

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Speaker 5: Him back in.

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Speaker 7: There's a part of me that I want to lead

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Speaker 7: to have a good time. But once he starts going

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Speaker 7: into that immature stuff, I'm like, I kind of want

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Speaker 7: to be here too when he gets arrested for it

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Speaker 7: and just be like I told you, Lee, I told

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Speaker 2: You didn't listen, And this is what happens to you. Lee,

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Speaker 2: this is what happens. Get to pass. He's with me

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Speaker 10: He's in those rooms, he's we're in We're in the

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Speaker 6: That was a little different. That's not that's not our house. Yea,

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Speaker 6: that's not Brady's house. That's not our house, even though

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Speaker 2: Using it that he's not as juvenile as you are.

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Speaker 7: Lee, You know, you go out and it's like, eh,

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Speaker 7: whatever happens happens. It's like next to you know, and

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Speaker 7: it's you're like falling off a curb. It's just the

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Speaker 4: And I also asked permission to get a coffee? Can

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Speaker 6: Lee, Lee walk right on out. That's all I'm gonna say. Lee,

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Speaker 6: walk right on. Lee don't care? Lee, boy, that's right,

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Speaker 6: Lee don't care?

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: So, what what sort of clearance would Lee have if

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Speaker 4: we went to South Bend, Brady, Like, what sort of

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Speaker 2: Would you take?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 7: They actually, you know, the atmosphere supposedly versus an m

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Speaker 2: And I told you, Lee, this is a wake up

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm good, I'm just chill here, buddy.

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Speaker 6: That would be a dope Lee goes to jail. That'd

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Speaker 6: be a dope ass show man like show how it

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Speaker 2: Make some friends?

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Speaker 6: Then, yeah, you would. I mean, like you be out

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Speaker 2: Her? What do you say he likes the bottom?

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Speaker 3: Wait, the bottom for sure?

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Speaker 7: Lee, Lee understands you don't wait too much about Lee

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Speaker 7: and his preferences. All right, you gotta either we gotta

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Speaker 7: open this thing up and be public about it, or

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Speaker 7: you gotta stop driving in all right.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying she definitely does have really good time in.

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Speaker 3: He's got good.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but she's like trying to She's trying to put

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Speaker 2: Lee knows what it's like to have a valent sil mate.

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Speaker 4: Oh oh oh he's not lionly.

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Speaker 2: Is that lion?

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah no no NOTNNA work my way around. Hey,

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Speaker 10: he's got a tough, ten strong head exactly.

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Speaker 2: He can take it. He can he can take a

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Speaker 3: He's the Canelo relationships, Dang it. Ain't going down.

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Speaker 2: No, ain't going down at all.

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Speaker 4: So Clemson has been a little bit of a disappointment

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Speaker 3: They lose to Georgia Tech over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: My guy popped off, didn't he.

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Speaker 4: They are one and two and Davos Swinney he has

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Speaker 12: If they want me gone, they if they tired of winning,

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Speaker 12: they can send me on the way, because that's all

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Speaker 12: we've done.

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Speaker 5: Is win.

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Speaker 12: So if they tired of winning, we've had We've won

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Speaker 12: this league eight out of the last ten years.

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Speaker 5: Is that not good? I'm just asking, is that good?

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Speaker 5: I don't know if that's good or not.

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Speaker 12: To win your league eight out of ten years, to

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Speaker 12: NATS championships and went twice. Yeah, we little down right.

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Speaker 12: Now take your shots. But I got long memory in

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Speaker 5: Know, We'll be all right. We'll bounce back.

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Speaker 12: This is a program built to last, always has been,

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Speaker 12: always will be. And I would just say, if you

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Speaker 12: give up on us, if you don't believe on us,

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Speaker 12: because we've lost two games down to the last trade

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Speaker 12: and we're wanting.

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Speaker 2: You didn't believe in us anyway, so it don't matter.

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Speaker 5: You wasn't all in anyway. If you all in, you

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Speaker 5: burn the ships. Man, you ain't.

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Speaker 12: There ain't no exit strategy like you're freaking all in.

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Speaker 12: And hey, listen, I mean Clemson's tired of winning. They

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Speaker 12: send me on my way, but I'm gonna go somewhere else,

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Speaker 12: and coach, I ain't going to the beach. Hell, I'm

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Speaker 12: fifty five. I got a long way to go. Y'all

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Speaker 12: gonna have to deal with me for a while. I

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Speaker 12: had a long way to go. I'm just getting going.

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Speaker 12: I'm just now good enough to be a head coach.

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Speaker 2: There you go, flex, there you go. I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: not wrong. Seven out of the last ten.

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Speaker 7: Years made the playoffs flex on eight of ted what

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Speaker 7: the conference? Flex thirteen of the last fourteen years, he's

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Speaker 7: what double digits? So tenor board games. The exception of

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Speaker 7: that was twenty twenty three where.

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Speaker 2: They went nighted four.

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Speaker 7: This is somewhere in the territory of like the Ryan

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Speaker 7: Day Ohio State fan based conversation. So many programs and

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Speaker 7: schools they'll want to fire these guys, and.

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Speaker 2: You know what they end up doing.

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Speaker 7: They end up spending the next decade or more trying

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Speaker 7: to find that exact same guy they would have killed four.

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Speaker 7: So Clemson fans, I get it. This is not the

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Speaker 7: start of the season that you wanted. By the way,

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Speaker 7: last year wasn't the start of the season that you wanted.

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Speaker 7: You went night at three, you end up winning your

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 7: You still want the conference. You still went to the playoff.

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Speaker 7: They still have very much of an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: To do that.

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Speaker 7: So one to two football team that has not played

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Speaker 2: The teams that.

447
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Speaker 7: Get hot are the team that end up ultimately playing

448
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 7: for the national championship.

449
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 2: That was Ohio State without a doubt last year. And

450
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 2: then you gonna be making the case that was not

451
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 2: to day. You can't make that case.

452
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 7: Like I'll go to the other side of that conversation.

453
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 7: Like we've already talked about Notre Dame this week. But

454
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 7: you know, if you look at some of these teams

455
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 7: that have losses and that and the fan bases are panicing.

456
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 2: The fan base is what these coaches fired, they just

457
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 2: started the season.

458
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 7: Do you think upending a coaching staff or a head coach,

459
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 7: whatever the case may be, do you think it's a

460
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 7: good idea for these players?

461
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 2: Like, then, what do you think is gonna happen?

462
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 7: You're gonna have someone else start over called the defense,

463
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 7: you know, someone else start over as the head coach.

464
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Speaker 2: How do you think that's gonna go?

465
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Speaker 5: To me?

466
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Speaker 7: It's always unbelievable, Like literally It's almost impossible for me

467
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 7: to comprehend how fans get like this so early into

468
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 7: a season. And yet you literally watched the team last

469
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 7: year in Ohio State. They lost to Oregon, they got

470
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 7: beat down by mission. At the end of the year,

471
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 7: went on a hot run, we win a national championship,

472
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 7: and they turned right back around and they'll complain about

473
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 7: something the following year.

474
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Speaker 2: It's wild man, And so.

475
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Speaker 7: Let me just point out one thing real quick, because

476
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 7: this is we haven't got to it. I'm pretty sure

477
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 7: we're not gonna get to it based on how a

478
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 7: rundowns have gone.

479
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Speaker 2: But you know, coaches have already been fired.

480
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Speaker 7: Brent Pry, former DC at Penn State, Levardosi Well Averrgeria Tack,

481
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 7: he's gone. You could look at a situation like that

482
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 7: and you say, well, why do they fire him so

483
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 7: early in the season. To Sean Foster, head coach at UCLA,

484
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 7: why is he fired so early into the season. He

485
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 7: got a year and then some games, handful of games,

486
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 7: not even well the reasons this. There's a thought with

487
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 7: some of those places that that's twofold. A lot of

488
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 7: the players, you know, if they an opportunity to go

489
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 7: somewhere else they can.

490
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 2: So if you if you do it.

491
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Speaker 7: Before week four of college football, those kids who've played

492
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 7: can still maintain a redsh a year if.

493
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 2: They have one. So that's what skind of thought. Yeah, yeah.

494
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 7: The the other thought is they want to get to

495
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 7: jump on the next head coaching search, and they want

496
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 7: to get that person in place as soon as possible

497
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 7: because they haven't changed the transfer portal windows.

498
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 2: They haven't changed their early sioting period.

499
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Speaker 7: So not only do you have to deal with the

500
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 7: rest of the season, which is all you know, you know,

501
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 7: foregone conclusion, at this point, you're already starting to find

502
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 7: that next guy to build a staff to get the

503
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 7: recruits not only in high school but also the college level,

504
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 7: et cetera. So that's all expediting this entire process, which

505
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 7: means there's even more of a need for changing the

506
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 7: college football calendar, the transfer portal windows. So we're not

507
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 7: looking at, you know, putting so much pressure on these

508
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 7: coaches where they if they don't win out of the gate,

509
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 7: then all of a sudden, you know, they got to

510
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 7: move on. Which UCLA and I think you'd admit for

511
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 7: anyoney who watched the second half of last year they

512
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 7: got better. That was a better team last year the

513
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 7: second half of the first half the season. So you know,

514
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 7: is it unfortunate it was Deshaun Foster, the right guy

515
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 7: for you still had I don't know. I mean, I

516
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 7: don't think he had enough time I could I could

517
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 7: honestly say that Brett Prior Virginia Tech.

518
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

519
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 7: I mean, if those guys don't get four years to

520
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 7: get their entire you know, class of recruits that have

521
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 7: develop et cetera. How do you really know? But this

522
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,239
Speaker 7: is the society we live in now. We don't get

523
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 7: the results we went right away. We just want to

524
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 7: move on.

525
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Speaker 6: M rem Prad as a fine coach man, he'll he'll

526
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 6: land on his feet, Dashawn. I don't really know too

527
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 6: much about his coaching pedigree. I know him as a

528
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 6: player and I know him as as a man. He's

529
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 6: a dope dude as a man, great family man, those kids.

530
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 6: I know this because that was one of Man's final

531
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 6: schools that he looked at. So I got some extensive

532
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 6: time with him and the coaching staff on campus. The

533
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 6: coaches and the players alike really respected him, like at

534
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 6: a very very high level. Anytime I've ever been around,

535
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 6: you know, coach coach Brent Brent prior, He's always been

536
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 6: a very well respected person by by his by his

537
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 6: coaching staff, and by his players. And I feel like

538
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 6: that's if the players, if the players riot with you

539
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 6: and they believe in you. To me, that that's the

540
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 6: biggest that's the biggest tail of the tape. Is what's

541
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 6: the respect factor for you as a person. And if

542
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 6: people admire you when you're not around, and they respect

543
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 6: you and they have great things to say about you

544
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 6: when you're not around, that speaks volumes to me of

545
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 6: the person that you are. Then comes to conversation of

546
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 6: how does that translate into being the coach that you

547
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 6: need to be? And I feel like that's always going

548
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 6: to be the most complex question to answer because there's

549
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 6: so many different ways to gauge and measure what being

550
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 6: a successful coach is. You know, the interesting thing is

551
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 6: there's so many times that everything is based off of

552
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 6: winning and losing. I was just watching a clip on

553
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 6: coach Paterno just randomly popped up on my algorithm, but

554
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 6: was watching a video on him, and what it really

555
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,959
Speaker 6: made me think about and what it really made me

556
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 6: feel is, and coming into this topic is that the

557
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 6: one thing that people don't pay attention to and it

558
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 6: doesn't resonate with them because generally speaking, they only care

559
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 6: when you're forced to care. Is the development of these

560
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 6: young men. And if you have a coach that is

561
00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 6: graduating his players, if you have a coach that is

562
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 6: teaching his players how to tie a tie, put on

563
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 6: a suit, make sure that they're presentable for a job interview,

564
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 6: make sure that they're on time, not only for doing

565
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 6: things that are athletic, but making sure you're on time

566
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 6: for class. There's a rule with Penn State players where

567
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 6: when they check on you, you should be there early

568
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 6: enough to be sitting in the front of the class.

569
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 6: No matter how big the class is. It doesn't matter

570
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 6: if it's two hundred or if it's twenty. You guys

571
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 6: should be there early enough to be sitting in the

572
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 6: front of the class. So, when we're making these judgments

573
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 6: about these coaches and what they don't do and how

574
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 6: they don't win, and it becomes so much about winning

575
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 6: and losing, I find it to be kind of interesting

576
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 6: the dichotomy between how we view these coaches and what

577
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 6: they're tasked to do. At the college level as it

578
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 6: applies to wins and losses. When we start to get

579
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 6: into conversations like the nil like when we start to

580
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 6: get into conversations like these kids being treated as as

581
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 6: professionals rather than being treated as students, because if you're

582
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 6: looking at it from a true perspective of treating them

583
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 6: like students, then some of these coaches that people call

584
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 6: for you don't have to go any further than the

585
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 6: conduct of the players that they have and what their

586
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 6: accomplishments are on and off the field. That would give

587
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 6: you a really really warm and happy, happy feeling about

588
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 6: what's taking place there. But that doesn't matter, right. All

589
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,239
Speaker 6: that matters is in the end, if you win, if

590
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 6: you lose. And sometimes I feel like, you know that

591
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 6: gets lost out I throw it out there.

592
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's almost like the game has changed to where

593
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 4: it's no longer it's just are you winning are We

594
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 4: need immediacy, We need results right away. And you know,

595
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 4: on the Davosy thing, the reason the Dabos Swinny stuff,

596
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 4: because we've talked about it, James Franklin Fans that don't

597
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 4: appreciate James Franklin in the success.

598
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 6: He's James Rob just Todd rip Angele, the coach that

599
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 6: that was before Joe Paterno.

600
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: He just tied him on on on the wins list.

601
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 4: But I mean I could on a small level understand, well,

602
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 4: you know, they've seen national championships with Joe Paterno, Ryan Day,

603
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 4: they've seen success there with Irvin Meyer and at the

604
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 4: program like Clemson's never had an era anywhere close to this,

605
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 4: like ever, not even close. They won one national title

606
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 4: and I think eighty one. Other than that, they've never

607
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 4: like they've never sniffed this before. And here we are.

608
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 4: They've got off to a slow start, and it's already like,

609
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 4: well there's got to be a change. If Dabos Swinny

610
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 4: was on the open market, he would get hired in

611
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 4: twenty minutes, like he'd like, they would hire him immediately

612
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 4: some other programs.

613
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 3: So it just it feels like.

614
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 4: It's become big business now and there's a lot more

615
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 4: voices outside of just the fanatical fan bases of these

616
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 4: programs that are making decisions.

617
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 6: And you know, I know, way more complex. You got

618
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 6: the transfer portal now it's just you got the nil money.

619
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 6: It is way more complex to start over with the

620
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 6: coaching staff than it's ever been ever. That is a

621
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 6: that is a very very big decision when you let go. Now,

622
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,719
Speaker 6: if it's a new coach, that's that's a little bit different.

623
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Speaker 6: But you talk about an institutional type of coach like

624
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 6: a Dabo Sweeney, good luck with that.

625
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 4: Look at what's going on with Alabama. They are going

626
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 4: to have their hands full trying to figure out post

627
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 4: post Nick saban Era.

628
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 3: There, Oh, they would hire Dabo Sweeney. Well, there you go.

629
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Speaker 3: He played for Alabama, Yes he did.

630
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 4: Like he played for Gen Installage, they would hire him

631
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 4: up imediately if that was the case, like to bring

632
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 4: them in.

633
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, I just.

634
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 6: It's going to be difficult to feel positions of guys

635
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 6: who have been institutions pillars to some of these programs,

636
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 6: and people are going to find out the things that

637
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 6: you wish for. You got to be careful sometimes stuff

638
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 6: you wish for because you just might get it.

639
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: There's going to be a lot of people who disagree

640
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: with this. Maybe you guys disagree with it. I also

641
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: think this is a small piece.

642
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 7: Of like the influence of social media, where like everything

643
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 7: we see in life is like the best of with

644
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 7: that person.

645
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: It's it's success, it's winning, it's the best of everything.

646
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 5: Yep.

647
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 7: It's like you don't see those moments of despair, those

648
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 7: moments of you know, heartache, tragedy or how much it

649
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 7: took to get to the success or how much it

650
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 7: took to climb that mountain. I think that's a byproduct

651
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 7: of this, where like fans have a realistic expert because one,

652
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 7: none of these especially young people know history like no one,

653
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 7: no one reads history. And then they're the portion of

654
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 7: it is they don't face that sort of adversity to

655
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 7: then get them to understand like what it takes. And

656
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 7: so even for a program like Clemson, you know if

657
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 7: this was you know one of those years where maybe

658
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 7: they take a step back, Okay, that like it only

659
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 7: builds for the next season for a number of those

660
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 7: players who are coming back. And you can make that

661
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 7: case for a bunch of programs Alabama to get off

662
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 7: to as hard as a start as they wanted to.

663
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 7: Now they look like they're you know, right back.

664
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Speaker 2: In and now. But you know, same thing for no

665
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Speaker 2: or Dame.

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Speaker 7: You're sitting there zero too right now, all right, So

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Speaker 7: so what like go try to take one game of

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Speaker 7: a time, see where you get by the end of

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Speaker 7: the season, Like no one said it's gonna be easy.

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Speaker 7: And that's the problem is that it almost feels like

671
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Speaker 7: everyone feels like it's just supposed to go how the

672
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Speaker 7: script is supposed to go. It's it's kind of it's

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Speaker 7: wild to be. But if Klepsid were to move on

674
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Speaker 7: from Dabo, Sweetie, it would be maybe the greatest mistake

675
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Speaker 7: ever made by a school of college football history, Like

676
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Speaker 7: it would for sure be up there. I'm trying to

677
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Speaker 7: think of others, but this one sticks out more than

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Speaker 7: any of the right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I can't think of anybody else as far

680
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Speaker 4: as like there's been some questionable firings, like we've brought

681
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Speaker 4: up you know, Nebraska and Bopolini a bunch of times,

682
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 4: but yeah, nothing to where a coach has had this

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Speaker 4: much success.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think anything.

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Speaker 4: Anytime a coach that's had this much success leaves on

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Speaker 4: his own, he makes a decision. They don't make the

687
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Speaker 4: decision for him, because if they do, they look stupid,

688
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 4: like it's him that moves on.

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Speaker 3: Nick Saban decided I'm moving on like I'm mad at here,

690
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Speaker 3: and he.

691
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Speaker 4: Did it with LSU to go to the NFL and

692
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Speaker 4: then did it with Alabama because he just got tired

693
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Speaker 4: of everything. Just you don't you don't see this on

694
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Speaker 4: the flip side, so it feels like a long shot

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Speaker 4: that would happen.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Petros Papadakis, Yes, he is a co host of

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Speaker 4: The pet Money Show, which you can hear on the

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Speaker 3: Analyst and you can get him on X at the

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Speaker 3: Old Pes.

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Speaker 6: Good morning, so P, Hello, Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 3: How we feel Petros? Are the Panic Brothers out yet?

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Speaker 4: For the Dodgers struggles limes against the Phillies.

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Speaker 13: It's pretty bad. I mean the Dodgers' bullpen is really bad.

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Speaker 13: I mean the starters are great and they go scoreless

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Speaker 13: and then the bullpen just blows it. The Phillies are

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Speaker 13: a lot like the Dodgers. They hit a lot of

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Speaker 13: home runs and they bonk those balls out of there

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Speaker 13: late in the game. Extra is two nights ago. Last night,

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Speaker 13: the Dodgers blew it again in the ninth. I wouldn't

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Speaker 13: say the Panic Brothers are out. I mean, the Panic

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Speaker 13: Brothers have been out, but I would say that they

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Speaker 13: have to go to the wild Card and it's not

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Speaker 13: going to be an easy path to the World Series

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Speaker 13: if they're gonna make it back, and we need the money.

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Speaker 13: So we'll see how it plays out. But it is

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Speaker 13: interesting to watch because, I mean, people said the Dodgers

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Speaker 13: were gonna win one hundred and twenty games. They was

723
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Speaker 13: supposed to be the greatest baseball team of all time?

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Speaker 2: Who said that?

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Speaker 5: Jo who said that.

726
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Speaker 13: There's a lot of articles in town and the LA

727
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Speaker 13: Times and stuff with the way they built the team

728
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Speaker 13: going into the season, and when they started, I think

729
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Speaker 13: they were like eight to o, nine to oh. It

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Speaker 13: looked like they weren't going to lose a game all year,

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Speaker 13: and it certainly didn't play out like that. I mean,

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Speaker 13: they've been competitive and good and they probably will still

733
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Speaker 13: the division, but we'll see what happens without that bye week.

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Speaker 13: Maybe it'll be good for him without the bye week.

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Speaker 5: Who knows.

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Speaker 13: But their bullpen is terrible and it's it's hard to

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Speaker 13: know what's going to happen with any of these guys, Tanner, Scott, Kirby, Yates,

738
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Speaker 13: all these guys they sign in the offseason. They're getting

739
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Speaker 13: their boobs scooped out like basking Robbins every time they

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Speaker 13: go pitch.

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Speaker 5: Damn.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they're really getting their tease lit, if you

743
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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Yeah, taking Otani out with a

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Speaker 4: no hitter going, I have that lamb with you.

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Speaker 13: Well, you know they took out Todd of glass Now

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Speaker 13: the other night with a no hitter in like the

747
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Speaker 13: seventh Yeah, and he was like, you know, well.

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Speaker 5: I understood why they took me out. I've been hurt.

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Speaker 5: It's like, don't you want to pitch a no hitter? Any?

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Speaker 13: I mean, I I don't know, but whatever. I mean,

751
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Speaker 13: we're waiting for the playoffs. They all have bigger fish

752
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 13: to fry with the great football season underway, and we'll

753
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Speaker 13: see what happens in the White Card round. We'll gear

754
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 13: up and get all excited about it. I don't know

755
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Speaker 13: if they'll send me Warring out that I have a

756
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Speaker 13: new boss now.

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Speaker 5: If the Dodgers lose early in the playoffs.

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Speaker 13: Usually I have to really hore it out, like like

759
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 13: do a lot of BJ's shows and things of that

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Speaker 13: nature to.

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Speaker 2: Make Who's your new boss?

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Speaker 13: A guy named Brian lay Long. Good man, he's fabulous.

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Speaker 13: But when our old boss Don Martin. You know, if

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Speaker 13: the Dodgers lost Big doll playoffs, yeah, which they did

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Speaker 13: for a long time. Uh, then I have to put

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Speaker 13: on my silk stockings and get my leg out in

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Speaker 13: the gutter and make some money in the final quarter

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Speaker 13: of the business year.

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Speaker 5: But this year I don't have to. We'll see, we'll

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Speaker 5: see what happened.

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Speaker 2: By the way, who is that fine pizza? Oh oh,

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Speaker 2: that's the.

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Speaker 3: One year the Dodgers got eliminated.

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Speaker 4: You guys got are doing impromptu Uh oh yeah that party?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we had to do it like a person.

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Speaker 13: We got to make up one hundred and twelve twenty

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Speaker 13: thousand dollar y'all are going to do a Christmas party.

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Speaker 13: Angela is going to be mostly advertising based.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Well, so we'll see what happens this year. But it's

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Speaker 13: always it's not just a job, it's an adventure.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, that is hilarious. Go go, go cue.

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Speaker 7: I was going to transition from that job to a

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Speaker 7: job that is now opened as the head coach of

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Speaker 7: UCLA just take me through the timing of all this

786
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Speaker 7: petros because it feels a bit early to just kind

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Speaker 7: of throw the towel on a guy who, I get it,

788
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Speaker 7: his opening press conference could have got any worse.

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Speaker 2: But that team did improve the second half of last year.

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Speaker 5: They did.

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Speaker 2: Why no grace given to Deshaun Foster to start this year?

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Speaker 5: That's an interesting question.

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Speaker 13: I think that UCLA was in a big, big problem

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Speaker 13: a couple.

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Speaker 5: Of years ago.

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Speaker 13: At the end of the year, UCLA finished like seventy

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Speaker 13: seven and five when they very easily could have been,

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Speaker 13: you know, like ten.

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Speaker 10: And and.

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Speaker 13: Two, and the fan base was really really frustrated, and

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Speaker 13: everybody wanted chip Kelly fired, and Martin Jarmond, the ad

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Speaker 13: UCLA didn't do anything.

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Speaker 5: He just didn't do anything.

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Speaker 13: And chip Kelly went on to beat Boise State in

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Speaker 13: the LA Bowl and they finished with eight wins, and

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Speaker 13: nothing happened. Chip Kelly wasn't recruiting, he wasn't motivated, he

807
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 13: was not getting along with anybody at the university. So

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Speaker 13: at that point, if you're Martin Jarmond, you either find

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Speaker 13: a way to get along with your multimillion dollar head coach,

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Speaker 13: find a way to make the relationship work is that

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Speaker 13: as your job as the athletic director or fire him?

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Speaker 13: And he didn't do either. He didn't fire him, he

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Speaker 13: didn't repair the relationship. Next thing, you know, Chip Kelly

814
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Speaker 13: a better job that happens to be the coordinator job

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Speaker 13: at Ohio State. And then they go on to win

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Speaker 13: the national title, and now he's getting paid even more

817
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Speaker 13: to call plays for the Raiders. Three field goals worth

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Speaker 13: last on Monday night. So they Martin Jarman dropped the ball.

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Speaker 5: With the relationship with Chip Kelly. So then what did

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Speaker 5: they do next?

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Speaker 13: You know, there was timing was weird, but he still

822
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Speaker 13: didn't lift a finger. And they hired Deshon Foster. They're

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Speaker 13: running back coach UCLA legend, a guy that I played

824
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Speaker 13: a lot.

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Speaker 5: Of football against when I was a kid.

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Speaker 13: De'shaun Foster, great guy, Brewin, legend, good recruiter, I guess,

827
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Speaker 13: running back coach. But nobody would have hired Deshon Foster

828
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Speaker 13: to even be a coordinator, let alone be a head coach.

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Speaker 5: It's just no one else.

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Speaker 13: Whatever you think about Deshon Foster, no one else was

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Speaker 13: going to hire Deshon Foster. So now Jarmin hires Deshaun

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Speaker 13: DeShawn was clearly and you just mentioned the big ten thing, he.

833
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 5: Was clearly uncomfortable doing the job. He was aloof.

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Speaker 13: He was unhappy answering questions about anything, which is fine

835
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Speaker 13: if you win games. They did improve a little bit

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Speaker 13: last year, ended up losing the USC and didn't make

837
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Speaker 13: a Bowl game, but you're right, the team looked like

838
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Speaker 13: they wouldn't win a game to start the year, and

839
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Speaker 13: they did get a little better. But this year, you know,

840
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Speaker 13: it's one thing to have Utah come out and beat

841
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 13: you in game one, but you lose back to back

842
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Speaker 13: games to Mountain West teams and the Rose Bowl is empty,

843
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 13: which it always is anyway. Now that's a real big problem.

844
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Speaker 13: So they went ahead and fired him. And they have

845
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Speaker 13: Tim Skipper, who was a good interim, well, a serviceable interim,

846
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 13: knows how to do this. He did it last year

847
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 13: at Fresno because Jeff Tedford's health problem caused him to

848
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 13: step down. So it's just been overall a very very

849
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 13: mismanaged situation, and Deshaun did himself no favors to start

850
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 13: this season off pissing off.

851
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 5: The very soft LA media.

852
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 13: And you know, if you piss off the media early

853
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 13: in the season, you build no equity with them, and

854
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 13: you lose two Mountain West games. They were going to

855
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 13: pile on him, and they did. So he ends up

856
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 13: making seventeen million dollars in a job that no one

857
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 13: else would have hired him to do. And now no

858
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 13: one has any confidence in the ad. Everybody wants him fired.

859
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 13: So who's going to hire the next head coach? Plus

860
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 13: the fact and I saw this text or email or

861
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 13: whatever it is, a tweet from Josh Pate, an ex

862
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 13: post the college football expert, and what he said was

863
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 13: painfully true. Most of the people getting mentioned for the

864
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 13: UCLA job have better jobs, and most of them are

865
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Speaker 13: coordinator jobs.

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Speaker 5: UCLA is in a tough spot.

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Speaker 13: And there are solutions for the UCLA football program, but

868
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 13: they're dramatic solutions. And a lot of people on the

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Speaker 13: West Coast like see this as karma because they feel

870
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 13: like UCLA was one of the one of the deciding

871
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 13: factors in ruining the PAC twelve. The deciding factor in

872
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 13: ruining the Pac twelve was Larry Scott, who drove the

873
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 13: thing into the ground for a decade plus. But there

874
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 13: is no doubt that UCLA is a national embarrassment and

875
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 13: they're supposed to be a lot better at football, or

876
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 13: they're pay more attention to football than they don't.

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry to follow up, but I would love to know.

878
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 7: You know, they're they're moved to the Big Ten as

879
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 7: netted the more money round the TV media rights deal,

880
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 7: So why have they not been able to apply that

881
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 7: more to sports? It seems like they don't have a

882
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 7: collective they haven't done very well and being able to

883
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 7: kind of build that up if they're I guess alumni

884
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 7: and fan base is so robust and.

885
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: They can complain about the move to the Big Ten.

886
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 7: Why can't they stop bitching and why can't they step

887
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 7: up and support their sports programs?

888
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 13: Well, I mean I think it goes first of all,

889
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 13: UCLA hoops is doing fine, right, Mick Cronin and men's basketball,

890
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 13: which they are blue blood. There's no doubt the history

891
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 13: of John Wooden, the Jim Herrick Championship.

892
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 5: Mick Cronan's doing great.

893
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 13: He doesn't have a problem raising money for NIL and

894
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 13: he is the best, one of the best college coaches

895
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 13: on the West Coast in any sport. So he's been

896
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 13: able to transcend the athletic departments in aptitude the football.

897
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 5: Program has not.

898
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 13: And you're right, Brady, they have a big earner in

899
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 13: their football program, and yet they don't know how to

900
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 13: utilize it and how to capitalize on it. And that's well,

901
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 13: it's been a long time thing at UCLA. Even when

902
00:44:54,360 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 13: I was younger, the Ucla mantra was, look how many

903
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 13: championships we have in all these sports, you know, high jump,

904
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 13: women's volleyball, you know, all this different stuff, which is great,

905
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 13: But all of those sports exist because of your football program.

906
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 13: All of those sports exist because football makes money and

907
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 13: funds everything else.

908
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 5: So show special attention to the football program.

909
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 13: If you're playing football at UCLA, because of the pecking

910
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 13: order of the world of athletics and who makes money,

911
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 13: you should probably feel a little bit more important than

912
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 13: the women's softball team, which is just the softball team,

913
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 13: because they don't play men's softball, so why don't they?

914
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 13: And that's always been a problem there. The other problem,

915
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 13: and I had a big thing on the show yesterday

916
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 13: about it, is their stadium. I mean just the Rose

917
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 13: Bowl is empty. A big stadium is not Rose Petros.

918
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 7: It's so I mean incredible, the history, it's a great

919
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 7: the parking lot that surrounds it.

920
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: Have I ever told you this story, by the way, No.

921
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 7: My sister used to tell me she always just to

922
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 7: go run the Rose Bowl. Yeah, well exactly, But I

923
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 7: thought like she got inside to the stadium and ran

924
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 7: up the stairs and ran exactly. I didn't know this.

925
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 7: So I go to the Rose Bowl and I'm like

926
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 7: trying to get inside. They're like, yeah, no, people just

927
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 7: run outside. I was like, in the parking lot. Yeah yeah,

928
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 7: people people just are running outside around the stadium.

929
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 2: Is stupid.

930
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 7: I just drove forty five minutes out of my way

931
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 7: to go run in a parking lot.

932
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 13: Well, it's not just the parking lot, it's the Historica

933
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 13: Royos haicle.

934
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 5: Oh it's beautiful.

935
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 4: Uh.

936
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 13: The Rose Bull is a great surface, it's a great

937
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 13: college football venue, but it's a terrible optical thing for UCLA,

938
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 13: and it's terrible for recruiting, and it's terrible for advertising,

939
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 13: and it's terrible for business that they just can't fill it.

940
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 5: They can't fill.

941
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 13: It halfway the last guy and they used to get

942
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 13: a sixty eight thousand fan attendance pretty regularly throughout my

943
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 13: childhood and all that. Terry Donahue, Bob Toledo Jim Mora

944
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 13: with Brett Huntley. I mean, they got people in there,

945
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 13: but now that ship has sailed post pandemic, the dream

946
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 13: of getting sixty thousand people at the Rose Bowl is over.

947
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 5: They're on the quarter system as a.

948
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 13: School, the kids, the kids need to be able to

949
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 13: walk over to the game, agreed, And going to SOFI

950
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 13: would not solve that problem. The drive from Inglewood to

951
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 13: Westwood is not much better than the drive from Westwood

952
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 13: to Pasadena. I mean it's really not, especially once you

953
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 13: get into Inglewood and try to get into that stadium

954
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 13: and they wouldn't. It doesn't solve the problem. Now they should.

955
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 13: I know that they're supposed to be historically a bigger

956
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 13: program than these teams I'm about to mention, but they

957
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 13: should follow this. I mean they won't do it because

958
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 13: it's a UC system and everybody's too stupid and everybody sucks.

959
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 13: But they need to follow the formula of Houston who

960
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 13: was swallowed up. Their atmosphere was swallowed up and no

961
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 13: one cared about Houston football playing in the Astrodome. Then

962
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 13: they move I think it was to Robertson Stadium, closer

963
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 13: to campus. Case Keenum and stuff like that. They have success.

964
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 13: And now they've built another on campus stadium, and obviously

965
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 13: they've moved up into the Big twelve, and Willie Fritz

966
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 13: is there. And then speaking of will and they've transformed

967
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 13: the identity of their program with two lane played in

968
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 13: the Superdome from the seventies for like thirty plus years,

969
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 13: swallowed up by the Superdome. None of the kids that

970
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 13: go to Tulane in the Garden District in New Orleans

971
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 13: would travel down and go to the games in the city,

972
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 13: none of them.

973
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 5: It was swallowed up. Their atmosphere was swallowed up.

974
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 13: They built an on campus stadium, thirty thousand seats two lane.

975
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 13: It sells out in fifteen minutes for games. Two lane

976
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 13: football is once again Willie Fritz showed up there, won

977
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 13: one hundred games, They beat USC in a Cotton Bowl,

978
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 13: and they just beat Duke at home in front of

979
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 13: thirty thousand two lane fans. Their program has been transferred,

980
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 13: transformed the identity of it because they built an on campus,

981
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 13: smaller stadium and created some atmosphere. UCLA has an on

982
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 13: campus stadium that they could redo Drake. The kids could

983
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 13: walk over. Now you mentioned the Rose Bowl in its

984
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 13: history and all that, Brady Fine. Every other year they

985
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 13: and they still have a contract with the Rose Bowl

986
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 13: to like three thousand, the year three thousand, So play

987
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 13: USC every other year at the Rose Bowl. When Ohio

988
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 13: State comes out here to play play in the Rose Bowl, Michigan,

989
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 13: Penn State, whatever Big ten, super king comes out then

990
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 13: f play them at the Rose Bowl.

991
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 5: But the other five or six home games, play them

992
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 5: at home.

993
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 13: Given a shot in the arm for Westwood Village and

994
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 13: the eateries and all the stuff there that's been destroyed

995
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 13: by the pandemic. It used to be a thriving university community.

996
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 13: It's not so much anymore. And I think that would

997
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 13: solve a lot of their problems. But they're too stupid.

998
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 13: I mean, I didn't even know who they're going to

999
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 13: hire to be the head coach. So but I do

1000
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 13: feel like an on campus stadium like Houston has done,

1001
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 13: like Tulane has done, would really and they have it there,

1002
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 13: would really solve a lot of UCLA's problems because I

1003
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 13: just in the modern times in Los Angeles, nobody's getting

1004
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 13: in the car to drive to these games, and it's

1005
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 13: a terrible look for their program that there's literally like

1006
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 13: twelve thousand people there in one hundred thousand seat stadium.

1007
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 13: It's just it's it's a very hard thing to overcome

1008
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 13: for them. So I think they need to do that,

1009
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 13: and Troy Aikman's been saying they need to.

1010
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 5: Do it for years.

1011
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 13: It's not like a new idea, but now is the

1012
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 13: time to change the landscape. And I just don't think

1013
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 13: they have the leadership within the athletic department to do it.

1014
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 13: A lot of people also blame the old chancellor at UCLA,

1015
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 13: Gene Block, who's not there anymore than I think of

1016
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 13: a new chancellor Julio Frank I think is his name,

1017
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 13: and Block, you know, kind of wasn't that into sports,

1018
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 13: and it shows anyway, that's the answer.

1019
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 5: You know.

1020
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 6: What's curious about what you said in terms of not

1021
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 6: being smart enough. U CLA basically says they take the

1022
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 6: players that, uh well, would make it into USC and

1023
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 6: that's that's what separates.

1024
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 2: The two, you know.

1025
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 3: They yeah, they don't They don't want the guys.

1026
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 2: That can make it into USC. They want the guys

1027
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: that can go to use that.

1028
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 6: I mean, that's always living out here. That's kind of

1029
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 6: like a running joke like that's like a running thing,

1030
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 6: like you guys won't take the best athletes.

1031
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 13: Yes, I mean I got into Berkeley, but probably would

1032
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 13: have got into.

1033
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 5: UCLA, which is crazy. Yeah, which is at Berkeley.

1034
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 13: I mean they're they're very similar schools, but Berkeley's a

1035
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 13: pretty reputable academic institution. And you know, it's funny how

1036
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 13: Stanford like wouldn't even look at my transcript and USC

1037
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 13: said it they had some problems with it.

1038
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 5: U U C.

1039
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 13: L A was like, no, efing way, that's crazy. Yeah,

1040
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 13: it is interesting. You know, that's kind of.

1041
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 5: Changed the academic part of it.

1042
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 13: I mean, Nico Iamaliava got a couple fs at at

1043
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 13: Long Beach, Polly, and then he still ended up in college.

1044
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1045
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 5: Right.

1046
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 6: And speaking of games, your alma mater is taking on

1047
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 6: Michigan State. They're undefeated as well, but you and Oregon,

1048
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 6: you know, USC and Oregon are out to one to

1049
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 6: zero starts in the conference. How you feel about them

1050
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 6: taking on the Spartans of Sparta.

1051
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 13: Well, I saw, I mean the Trojans versus Spartans. I

1052
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 13: mean that is the Trojan War, that is Achilles and

1053
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 13: the Actor and Odisayas.

1054
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 5: You know, that's everybody a parent hell out of Troy.

1055
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 2: I thought it was.

1056
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 6: Od says, Yeah, I thought it was Odecio, but I

1057
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 6: refer to you obviously, But I thought.

1058
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 13: It was well, I mean people mispronounced it, Okay, I

1059
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 13: mean it's not I wouldn't really call it a mispronunciation.

1060
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 13: I mean people call it the oracle at Delphi. It's Delphie,

1061
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 13: you know whatever. But yeah, I saw Michigan State to

1062
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 13: open and I love that head coach Jonathan Smith. Uh,

1063
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 13: it looks as if Aidan Chiles is playing like he

1064
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 13: was the number one quarterback in the transfer portal two

1065
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 13: seasons ago.

1066
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 7: Uh.

1067
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 13: He is really athletic, effortlessly flicks the ball out there.

1068
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 5: They have a beautiful wide receiver in Nick.

1069
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 13: Marsh, the big, strong wide receiver Detroit kid. He's a

1070
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 13: great athlete, you know, draft pick type of receiver. And

1071
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 13: they've they've transferred in some other wide out so that

1072
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 13: he's not completely double brack or whatever throughout the game.

1073
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 13: So and they have a good looking tight end, Jack Velling.

1074
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 13: They have two serviceable backs, a big one Tullus who

1075
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 13: runs that big stretch zone that Jonathan Smith likes.

1076
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 5: They've improved a.

1077
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 13: Lot on the offensive line, defensively, pass, rush, secondary. I

1078
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 13: don't know if they're that good, but they're going to

1079
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 13: play a lot of different guys and platoon and try

1080
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 13: to figure it out. This will be a big test

1081
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 13: for USC because Jonathan Smith knows about the West Coast,

1082
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 13: he knows about USC, he knows how to coach in

1083
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 13: that stadium. He beat them there with Oregon State for

1084
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 13: the first time in decades.

1085
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 5: He went down there and beat him with.

1086
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 13: Tight ends and with superior play calling and good balance.

1087
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 13: So I believe Michigan State will come with that. USC's

1088
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 13: looked okay, I mean, Perdue moved the ball a lot.

1089
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 13: I think it'll be a shootout type of game. But

1090
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 13: USC's look great with a couple of wide receivers Jacobe

1091
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 13: Lane and Lemon looks spectacular and the quarterback looks pretty good.

1092
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 13: But this will be a big test, and I wouldn't

1093
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 13: be surprised if the Spartans don't win it.

1094
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 7: Petros, I want to transition. The NFL rams are two

1095
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 7: and oh, charges are two and oh. If you had

1096
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 7: to place money right now and which one of those

1097
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 7: teams making it in the playoffs making a deep run,

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Speaker 7: which one would it be?

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Speaker 13: I mean, I think they both look like they could

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00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 13: right at this point. I mean, the quarterback's playing well,

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00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 13: Justin Herbert looks great and.

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Speaker 5: But you know that.

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00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's gotta be one.

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00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 7: That's like the thing about Khalil Mack just like his

1105
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 7: arm just fell off, right, Yeah, and then and ray

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00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 7: Sean Slater did an interview with us during camp and

1107
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 7: then like literally hours later, his leg fell off.

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00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 5: It's hard to not feel bad about that.

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00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 13: You know, You're like, hey, congrats on the contract we

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Speaker 13: got ah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so sorry, are you the musher you the bad luck?

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00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yess. I don't know.

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00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 13: I mean every Dodger believer we talked to, the guy

1114
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 13: goes out there and gets it chest scooped out, you know.

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00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 13: But so with I mean, their best defensive player and

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00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 13: arguably their best offensive.

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00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 5: Player are both out for the year.

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00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 13: It looks like or for a law I don't know

1119
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 13: what what they said about Khalil Mack, but that didn't

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00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 13: look good. Uh So that's that's not a great thing

1121
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 13: for the Chargers. But Harbaugh is a good coach everywhere

1122
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 13: he's gone. Suddenly the team has balanced. Suddenly they they

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00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 13: seem to be motivated in a different way and even

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00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 13: though McVeigh is just insufferable to listen to. For me,

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00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 13: sounds like a guy doing an imitation at John Gruden.

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00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 13: He's a really good coach and he just to Fasciatis,

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00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 13: I'm going to have a little bit of a lip,

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00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 13: you know, kind of swagy lip.

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00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 5: Guy shut up.

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00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 13: But he's a good coach man. And the Rams and

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00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 13: they look really good. And Stafford, you know, it look

1132
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 13: turns out that he doesn't need a bachiotomy.

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00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 5: His back is okay. So that's a really good question.

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00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 13: I mean, I would say the Rams are more proven

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00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 13: under McVeigh to make a deep playoff run.

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00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 5: The next time the Chargers make a.

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00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 13: D off deep playoff run in my lifetime will be

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00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 13: the first, I mean ever since they played in the

1139
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 13: Super Bowl against Steve Young. I mean that's a last yeah,

1140
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 13: I mean, that's the last time. I really the Chargers

1141
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 13: have really threatened. I mean, Philip Rivers and Ladanian maybe

1142
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,919
Speaker 13: so the Chargers are the ones.

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00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 5: It's more like Missouri show me.

1144
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 13: But but the Rams, they they they've had sustained success

1145
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 13: under McVeigh and Stafford and his annoying wife, and it's

1146
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 13: hard to pook my friend Pooka Nakua out of by

1147
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 13: u Via, Washington and committed to USC. So I'm sad

1148
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 13: to say it's probably the ram Alama ding Dongs Patra

1149
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 13: speaking of the Rams, I'm a Rambassador.

1150
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 4: Are you Are you calling a game this weekend?

1151
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 5: I am.

1152
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the Colorado State UTSA.

1153
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 13: I'm not good enough to call a game every weekend,

1154
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 13: but I'm good enough to call a game this weekend.

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00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 3: Who do you got?

1156
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 5: Colorado State UTSA?

1157
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 13: U TSA's got the best, the number one or the

1158
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 13: leading rusher in the country.

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00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 3: You got us.

1160
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 2: He's not as good as he once was.

1161
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 3: Are you going to get to see your favorite mascot

1162
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 3: up close?

1163
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 2: He's as good as he's going to be.

1164
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 13: He's more machine than man now twisted and Ethan.

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00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1166
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 13: Robert Henry Junior, Yeah, Bob Henry out of Mississippi. Yeah,

1167
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 13: he's Uh, this guy's already he's averaging ten yards of carry.

1168
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 13: Uh only five nine, but like a big stride. And

1169
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 13: all the mccowns have come through this coach.

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00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 5: Jeff Trailer at essays, Yeah.

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00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 13: UTSA is really interesting. They have Owen McCown, whose son

1172
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 13: of I believe he's Josh's son. So he's the quarterback

1173
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 13: and uh uh I love j Norvell. I've always loved Jay.

1174
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 13: He's a great guy in his uh his quarterbacks, Crowler

1175
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 13: Fowler Nicolosi is the guy who got in a fight

1176
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 13: with Shadour last year.

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00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 5: He's one of the better quarterbacks in the Mountain West.

1178
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 3: And your favorite mascot up close and personal in Colorado.

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00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, Cam the ram with his big hairy balls. Kim,

1180
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 13: what have you ever seen Cam the rams ball sack?

1181
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:16,959
Speaker 5: No?

1182
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 3: Oh, you could not believe it. It's auffel bag.

1183
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 13: He's just coming out of the mountains, coming out of

1184
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 13: the Rocky Mountains, just ready for return.

1185
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 5: Up the sack. Tang.

1186
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 6: Oh, I've learned something. I'm today years old. When I

1187
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 6: learned this, I knew this.

1188
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 13: I remember doing a Colorado, Colorado the what do they

1189
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 13: call it, the Rocky Mountain showdown at mile High and

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00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 13: Ralphie the buffalo who is a female because they can't

1191
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 13: male buffalo.

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00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 5: They could just bare I mean they can barely hold

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00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:50,479
Speaker 5: the woman back.

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00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 13: And Ralphie does the run, which is one of the

1195
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 13: great things in college football and probably totally inhumane, but

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00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 13: and little bit safer, a little safer at mile High

1197
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 13: because it's got a thicker sideline than than fulsome field.

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01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 13: It's pretty tight corners at Fulsom Field when they run

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Speaker 13: that buffalo, but they run the buffalo and then you know,

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01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 13: Colorado State literally has like a goat.

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Speaker 5: And they're like, you know that's you know, like running

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Speaker 5: with his bell, you know, and uh just slid Pitcher.

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Speaker 13: The picture, you know, and they call them CAM the

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01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,959
Speaker 13: Ram because Colorado State used to be.

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01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 5: Different Colorado A and M so cam c AM.

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Speaker 2: They got a statue of it. It's like you you

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01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 2: can't sit there.

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Speaker 5: You can't have like a castrated goat. You know, you

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01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 5: got to have its balls.

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Speaker 13: You ain't coming to lectly since the other school in

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01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 13: the state has like a female mascot.

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Speaker 6: Really flaunted like them and the Beavers this giant ball.

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01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 7: By the way, on uh old Bobby Henry, he ran

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Speaker 7: well versus am like everyone.

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Speaker 2: It's not like I know he's stay in the carter word.

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Speaker 2: But he's a stud.

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Speaker 5: No, he's gashing everybody for long, long runs.

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Speaker 13: Uh. He's a home you know, it's one thing. And

1219
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 13: he's a physical back and you know he gets his five.

1220
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 5: Yards when you need him.

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Speaker 13: But uh, he's he's you know, he's a home run

1222
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 13: hitting back, which is really what kind of stood out

1223
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 13: to me last year with Ashton genty.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 13: You know, he he was getting down the field and

1226
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 13: he had a plan when he was down the field.

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01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 5: But but yes.

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01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 2: Uh is a home run hitter.

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01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 5: He is.

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Speaker 7: Well, I've just provided a photo of you boys that's

1231
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 7: more realistic the one LeVar sense not really.

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Speaker 4: Oh god, oh my gosh, trust that kidding me. Trust

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Speaker 4: we we appreciate it, and we'll do it again next week.

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Speaker 4: There he is a right Pampa Vegas with this yere

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Speaker 4: on Fox Sports Radio