WEBVTT - Ep. 59: Throwing Freedom Loops at War Eagles 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:08.440 We have rivers here where there's just signs that are 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:11.040 like do not wait, bottom littered with pipe bombs. I 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.080 just want to shout out they will always be great legs, 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:18.520 steelhead to me, migratory rainbow snobs. Don't at me. He's 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:22.560 got that rod, he's got my flower boxes. You're not fishing. 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:25.960 People only use this in Alaska for trout. That's a 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:28.480 bunch of pretentious indie movie bullshit. What do you think? 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.160 This is an episode of freaking Philistines. That being said, 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:34.840 it's on Netflix and you should check it out. Good 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:37.320 morning to generate anglers, and welcome to Ben the fishing 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:39.879 podcast that sounds so much better than a kick in 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:42.560 the face with a golf shoe. Thanks to today's guest 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:45.240 co host you know him, you love him, Ladies and gentlemen, 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:50.720 are legendary audio engineer Phil Taylor is here. What Wow, 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:57.160 I'm just as surprised as I'm sure the listeners are. Yeah. Well, 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:59.840 I mean, if you think about it, right, who else 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:03.120 knows this podcast as intimately as you? So? Like Philly, 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.959 Like you're the natural, You're the natural, like go to 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:08.880 for guest co host number one, and I hope, I 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:11.600 hope you piped in some roaring crowd sound effects for 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:14.800 yourself because I think you deserve it. Um. Anyway, it's 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.160 super good to have you here. Can I get you anything? 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:20.839 Glass of water, subway tunahogi, a pack of bubble buts 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.840 from our sponsors thirteen fishing maybe Okay, I want to 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:25.679 go back to the tunahogy, but first I have to 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:30.360 ask bubble buts. Can you please elaborate? I I will, 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:33.959 I will. So these are extra girthy, shaky lures covered 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.720 in donkey sauce. And if I I can, I know 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:38.600 a guy, so I can get you a pack of 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:41.360 them if you want them. Um. But it's funny because 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.280 we hear you weekly weighing in on fish News. But 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.880 this is the opportunity for myself and the listeners to 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:48.920 really get to know you better. Like, dude, I have 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:52.279 zero idea what your fishing history is. Do you fish? 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:56.440 Have you? Have you ever fished? I don't know, you know, 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.560 I'm not really sure either. I can. I can tell 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.720 you though, that before I got a job at Meat Eater, 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.000 which is a you know, a brand, a media brand 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.080 that you know has a lot to do with hunting 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:10.160 and fishing. Little bit a little bit um, I had 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:14.280 caught one fish in my life one, Um, what was? 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.440 What was that? I honestly could not tell you. I 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:22.200 was on scenic Lake tac Lack in Washington State. UM, 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:24.799 hit me up if you if I've got any Lake 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:28.840 tac Lack uh regulars out there. But yeah, I have 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:30.959 no idea what the fish was caught it. I was 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:34.440 too gross out to touch it, So Phil, I wouldn't 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:36.040 have said that. But I wouldn't have said that were 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.000 you a little child or was this like not that 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:41.240 long ago? It was about how about thirteen? Is that? 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.080 Is that a little child? That's now? But that's right 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:45.640 on the edge of I don't know how I feel 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.240 about you being afraid to touch the fish. Um, I'm 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.840 gonna look up Lake tackle Lac and I'm gonna figure 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:52.440 out what it was. I'll come back to you with 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.040 options and maybe from it'll jog your memory and you'll 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:56.799 be like, it was that one Because I've never heard 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:58.119 of it and I have no idea what's in there. 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.520 Somebody will write in and let me know. But let 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.000 me ask you this. Since you've been editing Bent for 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.600 over a year now, has like any of the bullshit 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:08.560 we've spewed made you want to go chase something you 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:11.079 haven't before, Like, has any of this piqued your interest 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:16.200 beyond our coverage of Pokemon lures? Uh, It's definitely piqued 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.079 my interest. I honestly had no idea how deep this 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:22.640 world went, right, I mean, like yeah, but like ads 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.520 with anything, of course, it goes as deep as you 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:28.240 wanted to go. And honestly, you guys go so deep 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.920 that I get lost immediately, Like Miles. Miles made a 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:36.080 joke a few weeks ago about how I'm sure Phil 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.160 doesn't even listen to what we're talking about. He just 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.040 kind of he's busy doing something else. You're about to 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:42.840 tell me that was accurate, and you don't. I'd say 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:48.200 that's about sixty eight percent accurate. So as least year, 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:52.040 you're honest. That's why we love as as with most things. Uh. 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.160 In regarding the podcast that I work on at this company, 0:03:55.360 --> 0:04:00.120 I'm I'm pretty lost. I bet I would love like 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.720 kind of a surface level education or fishing trip one 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:05.240 of these days from you, Joe. I don't know if 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.360 that if we can make that happen. We have, we 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:09.800 have talked about it for a while, where like we 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.480 would start you off blue gill fishing and record that 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.040 and like work it up and then eventually, like the 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:17.039 big payoff was you'd flat here and I'd take you 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.720 like bluefin fishing or something. I love it. I don't know, 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:21.240 I don't know where we are in the budget now, 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:22.880 and now I'm kind of like scrambling to put this 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:24.880 show together, so I might have to get back burnered 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.200 for a little. It's at the bottom of the list 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:29.680 I got. It was something that was talked about. Though. 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:31.479 It frightens me a little that you say you get 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.640 that lost, because we kind of strive to be like 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:37.159 pretty like not too deep divy so that fisherman of 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.920 all ILKs can listen to us. Well, here's something Joe, 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:42.279 I've I've told you this before. I've told like almost 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:45.479 everyone who works at Meat Eater and anyone I can 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.160 people on on the bus, I'll stop them and be like, hey, 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.640 if you listened to Ben. Um, even though I don't 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.760 know a lot about fishing, and now, since I was thirteen, 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:56.920 I've caught about six or seven fish in my life, 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.680 so you know, I wouldn't call myself an expert, but um, 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.080 but like, even though I don't know a lot about fishing. 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:05.280 I love listening to this show every week. It's it's 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.200 it's the show I look forward to the most. I 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.720 love that. I love that. It's great. It's part and 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:12.760 I know that it's part of the reason why you're here. 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.799 And I know you're not a hard wrangler, and that's okay, um, 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:17.960 but we need more about you. You are like a 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:20.480 traveler though, correct you get around. You were recently at 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.000 the Minnesota State Fair. If I'm not mistaken, you put 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:27.599 up a short expose on Instagram documenting foods on a stick. Yes, 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.560 the Minnesota State Fair. It's the the epicenter of culture 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:34.520 in the United States. I mean, I've done some traveling. 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:39.359 I've I've been to Europe once. That was fun a 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.120 lot of I'm a Pacific Northwest native, so I've spent 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:46.919 some time in British Columbia, Canada. Uh, it's some some 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.400 East Coast dabbling, but not not a whole lot of 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:51.400 time spent there. So I'd love to get out there more. 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:55.840 But it's pretty average, pretty average traveler. Fair enough. How 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.159 about Old Mexico? You ever spent any time in Old Mexico? 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.039 San Diego is the closest I been to Old Mexico. 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.520 I've seen it from from a distance, but I can't 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:05.880 so the wait. So you spend time in San Diego 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:09.680 and did not go to Tijuana. No, is this you 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.680 setting yourself up for a great Tijuana story or No, 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.640 I've never been there either. But I've never been there either, 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:17.240 But I think that's I thought that was the thing 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:19.920 you do. Whatever the Tijuana story would be, whether it 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:21.719 was yours or mind, we probably shouldn't tell it here 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.919 because that's what happens in Tijuana. Um. But anyway, today's 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:28.400 Smooth Move segment actually takes place both north and south 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:30.640 of the border, and I'm excited about it. Um. Not 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:32.960 only is this a great story, but most of you, 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:36.080 at least I hope I haven't forgotten about the get 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.359 bent experience. So a few months ago we dropped a 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.480 contest giving you guys a chance to submit stories, and 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:46.400 the winner got to join us for a Smooth Move segment. UM, 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.800 And we certainly didn't forget about it, and we noted this. 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.560 It's just that you guys sent so many great stories 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.599 it took us forever to pare it down into clare winner. 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:56.640 But today's the day, Phil, And it's actually it's just 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.279 a great day for phills everywhere because you're here and 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:03.839 it's a Phil in our story. So how about about that? Yes, absolutely, 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:07.000 about Dr Phil. We checked on him. Is he doing No? No, no, no, 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.200 we'll check on him next time. I'm just wondering any 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.840 other films we can bring it here if any, if 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.200 any come to mind, we'll We'll throw a man. But 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.080 for the first time ever, a loyal Bent listener's voice 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.640 shall be heard here, joining us all the way from 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:23.440 ben Brook, Texas. Here's the Get Bent Experienced Grand Prize 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:31.040 winner Phil van Horn. Why why did you? Oh my god? 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:36.840 I am joined today on Smooth Moves by listener Phil 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:38.680 van Horne. And this is a special deal. I have 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:41.000 to I have to offer you congrats man, because you 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:46.080 are the first fan in Bent history that has been 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:49.520 on the show. Well, I appreciate, I'm honored. You said 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:51.400 in your email when I when I alerted you to 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.920 the wind, that you were speechless, which is rare. Oh yeah, no, 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:58.040 I mean I couldn't believe it at first. I thought 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.800 you were calling about my car warranty, you know, expired, 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:03.440 and you're trying to offer this up on the email 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.160 and I was like, listen, not scheme here. So now 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:09.080 now sometimes it's not a scheme, and this time it wasn't, 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.680 and I already know you got your your your mediator 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.280 fishing schwag. I had to laugh because I was like, 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:16.880 what size shirt? And you were like large or extra large? 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.200 And then I got to follow up email that was like, actually, 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.239 my wife reminded me that I am an extra large 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:25.080 and to stop kidding myself. Yeah, which I feel you, 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.080 I feel you on that. But um yeah, man, So 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.760 we got a ton of entries, so pretty big deal 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.960 to be weeded out as the grand prize winner. But 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:36.400 this is one hell of a story. Um so take 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:38.920 it from the top, man, lay it, lay it on us, 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.839 all right. Well, wife and I got married twenty five 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:46.800 years ago, twenty one to be exact, and so twenty 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.000 years ago we started going down to Mexico to visit 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.960 or family and Lake Amastab which is a huge lake, 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.960 you know, great bass fishing. So we it's right there 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:58.640 so to pass the time. I mean, it's a hundred 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.640 degrees during the day, sitting around house and you know 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:03.920 power rangers of the Spanish dub over it gets old. 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:08.080 After a while, so I finished. I figured out, you know, 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.400 our talker cousin into going fishing. And her cousin had 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.319 all the lives. He was living in Mexico, going back 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.600 and forth working and at that time he lived in 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:19.440 Del Rio. So he goes, hey, we'll go in the evenings, 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.200 no problem. So we went bass fishing. I just started 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:25.920 doing it. My wife taught me to fly fishing, because 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.439 she she's willing to try anything. So I was like, hey, 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:32.560 let's go and h Her cousin at the time was 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.920 working on this trip that we had and he wasn't 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:37.199 able to go with me, but he had shown me 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.440 back roads and which way to go across the border. 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:45.920 So there's two main entrances back into the US. So 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.760 you got a toll bridge, the International to seventy seven. 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.839 You can sit there for hours, and I mean you're 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.440 just taking a beating there. So you can take this 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.839 back road route number two, and it goes right over 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.640 the damn. I mean, you're dry having over the real 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.160 grand looking down at Amnistad and you just wave at 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:07.199 the border guards as you go by. So I was like, 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:10.240 you know, I'll take that route. I can drive ninety 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.880 miles an hour. There's nothing out there. I mean there's 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.319 old movie sets and there's a like a good Year 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:18.160 race track where they test tires. I've been down to 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.520 this part of the world, not Amistad. I've been to 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.640 Falcon now, so I know i know what you're talking about. Yeah, 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:27.280 it's it's different. Yeah yeah, two lane blacktop. Nothing out there, 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:29.640 so you know, get run over by a dump truck, 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:33.439 that's your own fault, you know that kind of thing. So, 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.760 so we're gonna be out here three days in a row. 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:40.360 I said, Hey, you know what, I'll I've always only 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:43.719 fished conventional there, and if you talk to anybody there, 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.680 it's always like hey, green pumpkin, green pumpkin, screen pump 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.960 Then I'm like, you gotta try something different, right, I 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:52.680 was like, I'm just gonna go fly fishing this time. 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.560 I'm not gonna take conventional gear. Mix it up. So 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.280 the first day I went to the main border checkpoint 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.560 at to seventy seven. It wasn't too bad, no traffic 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.000 speak of, So I crossed the border. Get on where 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:07.319 I'm gonna fish. The water level is always thirty with 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.520 this lake, so fly fish, I mean, you got no, 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.200 there's nothing to your back cast because you're standing limestone, 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.120 catch a couple of fish top water. I'm like, hey, 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.960 not a bad day, can't be upset. So I come 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:21.360 back the back way and I'm coming over that damn 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:23.960 on the smaller road. You came back on the smaller 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:29.160 So I came back on that route and wave at 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.840 the border guards. No questions asked, pass on through. Now 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.240 I'm back home. I'm eating tacos by noon, so I'm like, 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:38.200 this is amazing, breaks my heart. Day two, I get 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.600 going the same route, get over the damn, wave at 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.840 the opposing boat, at each opposing teammate border guards here, 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:48.200 you know, to and from. So get on the lake 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.959 in it's windy. I can't cast. I mean, there's nothing happen. 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.880 So I head back. I catched some SpongeBob in Spanish 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:59.960 and I get everything that I planned on. So Dave's 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:04.240 three comes, and I mean it. I got there. I 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:08.360 went the back way, crossover, wave back, I get over 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:11.360 their star fishing. I'm you know, I'm about an hour 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.800 after sunrise. I'm in the same thirty minutes. I'm catching 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:18.360 left and right top water streamers. Everything's working. All of 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:21.200 a sudden, the clowns leave blue bird skies and the 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:25.000 fish disappeared. They swam back where they came from. So 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:27.199 I said, all right, well, I'll pack this up and 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.920 get back a little bit earlier. So I head back 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:34.320 across the damn We're gonna go back that back way, 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:39.320 the easy way. So I head back. I wave and promptly. 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.600 I mean, as soon as I waved and started driving by, 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:43.680 I get a hand on my hood and he says 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:47.920 out the no posse, stop, no go, no passing here. 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.480 It's like, great, where is this gonna cost me? So 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:54.920 he points over to the side of the guard shack. 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.880 They started asking me what are you doing? Where have 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:00.760 you been? Why are you going to? Well all the time, 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.240 I'll see you every day. So this is three days 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.480 in a row, now right, three days in a row, 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.120 an American and a Dodge DURINGO you know with the 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:14.559 Texas plate. You know, I'm just cruising on in and uh, 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:16.680 I mean, he's blaming me. He's what are you doing. 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:20.200 I'm I'm fishing. He goes, no, you're not. What are 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.720 you doing? You're you come back and forth this way? 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.960 Are you smuggling? You know? You running drugs? People? What 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.360 are we doing You're you don't You're not from here, 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.520 and you keep coming this route. This is a kind 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.640 of a local route. Are you fluent in Spanish? By 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:38.000 the way, I speaking of conversational Spanish, my whole with 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:41.120 my one, you know, to understand, right, Yeah, I mean 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:45.280 I'm holding the conversation with Spanish. So we're I mean, 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:47.880 I'm sitting there in the car and he he tells 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.240 me step on out. So I get escorted into the 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:53.040 building where I find me a nice five by five 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:58.719 holding cell baby blue. It's beautiful, no air conditioner, a 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:02.680 little graded you know, a little raided door. Well, I 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:04.480 realized that's a you know, that's my first time on 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:06.040 this side of it. I was at that time, I 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.920 was a I was a copyer in Texas. And so 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:11.640 he sees my wallet. You know, he's already, you know, 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:15.520 he's suspicious more now. So I was like, all right, 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:19.480 I'm gonna swit this out. And uh, he just keeps 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:20.760 asking me, what are you doing? What are you doing? 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.400 Why are why are we here? He said, Man, I'm 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:27.320 I'm out fishing. That's all I'm doing. He goes, You're 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:31.920 not fishing, You're coming through her every day and I'm like, man, 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:35.800 what do you where are we going with this? And 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:37.800 I was like, hey, just check the back of my car. 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.600 Fishing poles in the back. My wet boots are back there. 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.760 Everything is in the back of my car. Sorry, I'm surprised. Man. 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.880 He walked right back there, came back. He's got that rod, 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.160 he's got my fly box, and he's got my book. 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.280 You know, He's like, boots are wet. Ain't worried about it. 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:59.960 He goes, you're not fishing. No one, No one fishes 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:04.120 with this. I said, what man? I was completely offended. 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.080 I'm like, I've never been accused of not fishing in 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:11.280 my life. So the inspector he's he's really adamant about this. 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.960 You're not fishing. People only use this in Alaska for trout. 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.120 I'm blown away. I mean, I'm like, yeah, no, I 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:21.800 get that here. When people ask me, hey, where do 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:23.520 you go fish, I'm like, in water. I mean, I've 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.680 never not fished in water. But I try not to 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:27.360 be a jackass all the time, and you know, give 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:31.280 up explanation. But so I'm like, all right, you know, 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:33.040 I'm just trying to figure out how I'm getting out 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:36.119 of this. I was like, hey, you find any contraband 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:40.560 anything in my car? And he's just like, no, I 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:42.640 don't have a computer with me, you know. So it's 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:46.040 like no, not smuggling anything. So I was like, all right, 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:48.440 like what do you want? You know, what, what do 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.040 you mean to do? He goes, use it? Show me. 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:55.920 I'm like, show you what do you been to show? 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:57.720 You know? I mean we're going to climb down this hill. 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.760 I mean, the the river's two feet lowe me. What 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.160 are we gonna do? And he showed me. He's like 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.160 handed it to me. I'm like, oh, he has been 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:09.360 a cast. He's me prove my freedom, you know. So 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:13.120 I'm like, all right, oh, your game symbol a rod 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.000 let some uh you know, let some leader. And I'm like, 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.920 how am I gonna up on the bridge right? You're 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.400 like yeah, I'm all the day. I am two ft 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:24.400 above the water, you know, staring, and I'm like, I 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.040 can make a break for it, you know, run back 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:29.320 fifty ft political asylum, I can die hard or whatever. 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:33.320 You know. I advised that. I was like, well, then 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.000 I lose my car and I mean he's got my 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.800 boots back there, so what's more important? At this point? 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:39.840 So I'm like, all right, I could jump to her 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:41.960 feet to the river fifty ft to the water on 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:47.160 the other side. I'm like, all cast. So I let 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:48.760 some lead out and I sit there and I just 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.680 start false casting, and I mean, I'm the most important 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.280 cast I've ever made before. This was for a tailing redfish. 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:59.240 You know which one is more important? This one? So 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.280 I can go home or you know, a fish. I'm 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.560 I'm letting this thing and I'm throwing the tightest loops 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.440 I'll let it out. I'm casting and it just unfurls 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:10.400 and it just rolls at lants perfectly on that concrete. 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:14.800 And I'm like, I'm surprise myself, you know, at this point. Yeah, 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:19.679 So I look over at him. I'm like, you know, 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:21.639 what do you think. You know, I'm a little little 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:23.560 free lesson. I didn't charge him or anything, you know. 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:27.119 So he kind of he kind of gives me that 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:31.400 that reassuring nod, like, yeah, you're you're good. So I'm 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:33.600 walking back to the truck. I'm like, he points to 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:35.480 the back of the car. I got the back open, 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:41.240 throwing it in. He goes. He points and goes, uh, yeah, 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:45.320 I do, thank you. He goes no, that's my shutter 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:50.080 Box six pack. And I went, well, thanks. I mean, 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.159 I'm like, yeah, compared to other things that people I 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.600 know have had to give away, just give up in Mexico, 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:59.880 a six pack of Shiner, no big deal. And I'm 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:01.879 you know what, I had to import it. I mean, 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:03.720 I guess that's my smuggling run for that day. So 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:05.800 I'm like, all right, fair enough, you know, you take 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.800 my take my beer. But then I'm like, hey, it 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:10.840 was my fly box on my wallet, you know, let 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.520 me have that back. He has been my fly box. Back, 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.040 takes my wallet, takes a twenty dollar bill out of 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:19.880 it and told me it's for your inspection. I said, oh, hey, 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:24.040 no thanks. You know, I figured, hey, so I lost 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:27.000 my taco money and I and my beer all the 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:30.360 fatal swoop. But I'm like, hey, I'm free. But it's 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:33.440 the most important cast you've ever made. Yeah, I mean 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:39.280 it was freedom loops, you know, just it's just freedom loops. Yeah. 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.440 So did you go back the rest of the trip 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:44.280 or was that your last time across? That was my 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:48.080 last day across at that point, you know, for that trip. 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.600 So I was like, I'm done, you know, if I 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:52.359 need to go back. I'll go back to the the U. 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.200 S side. And it's a little you know with traffic 0:18:55.320 --> 0:19:00.280 and cars and witnesses and everything else. But no, that 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:01.879 was that was it for this trip. And I was 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:05.000 just that that was about all she wrote. There you go, man, 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:06.560 Well look we I think, I said, we got a 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:10.359 ton of great stories for the Get Bent experience, but 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:14.600 casting for your freedom on a bridge in Mexico especially 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:16.320 resonated with me because, like I said, I run into 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:19.720 some ship in Mexico to um, that's the winner, man, 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.200 that's the winner. Hey, I appreciate it. Man. The last 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.960 time I've ever won anything was I got a phone 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:29.240 call one time saying, hey, you've won his chance for 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:32.240 the tickets for the Playboy Halloween Linger party back in 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:37.199 And I'm sitting there on the on this phone and 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.520 I in the in the hallway, you know, quarter wrapped 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:41.520 around me, trying to figu out what's going on. He goes, hey, 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.240 let me get your information. I'm like, many three reservations 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:46.360 and plane ticket. I'm like, this is great, give out 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:48.760 my day to birth and he goes, I'm sorry, you're 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:55.440 only nineteen, went well, yeah, sorry you got uh thanks 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.160 for playing hung up. I'm like, you know what, this 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:00.720 wind was almost as good film. I'm I mean, twenty 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:02.480 three years on the making, I finally want to go. 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:11.960 I mean this beats Halloween, Lingerie, Playboy Mansion. Wow. Um, 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:15.080 First of all, that sounds terrifying. Um, but it also 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:16.800 sounds like it could be the great premise to a 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:19.920 Coen Brothers movie. Yeah, dude, right on. And the part 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:22.720 I'm still stuck on is freedom Loops. I guessn't that 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:24.320 what you plan to call your company when you start 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:26.520 your own audio production? Is this? One day you have 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:29.040 freedom Loops by Phil. It's kind of like Fashions by 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:31.520